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he got the ball rolling. >> tom, thank you. that does it for us this morning. are you going to zip it? that's amazing. i'm impressed. >> i bet on myself not to interrupt you. >> stephanie ruhle. >> thanks, mika, thanks, joe. hi there. i'm stephanie ruhle. protests, day two. after 60 palestinians were killed in gaza, more palestinians are taking to the streets. the white house pointing a finger at one side. >> the responsibility for these tragic deaths rest squarely with hamas. hamas is provoking this response. >> place your bets. the supreme court clears the way for states to legalize sports betting. >> let's let it be regulated. let's let it be taxed. let's tuesday fuse it for the g instead of calling it gambling. >> back in business.
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harsh reaction to the president's bizarre pledge to save 70,000 jobs in china. >> president trump, by caving, frankly, to china, in respect to zte is signaling tremendous weakness. china sees that and they're going to run with it. >> it is primary day. voters in four states heading to the polls. including pennsylvania, the first test of the newly mandated court districts. you know what we begin with today, clashes along israel's bordz border. palestinians no longer seeing a path to peace, they're lashing out instead. a team to break all of it down this morning. first, it is just after 9:00 a.m. eastern time. just after 4:00 in the afternoon in the palestinian territories. this is the time of day when people get off work and they head to the protest. we're watching the situation closely. because today has the potential to be particularly bad. that is because palestinians are calling today catastrophe day. the anniversary of their being
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removed from israel after its founding in 1948. the crowds may not be as big as they could have been. some palestinians stay inside instead of focusing on the protest. they'll be focusing on funerals. at least 60 people were killed monday as the israeli military used tear gas and live ammunition to fend off crowds who are throwing stones and molotov cocktails. later, israelis sent warplanes and tanks to go after hamas targets inside the palestinian territory. all of the victims were from the palestinian side. no israelis were killed. overnight, prime minister benjamin netanyahu, who is accused of being too heavy handed. several arab countries specifically condemned israel's hand in the violence. turkey and south africa going so far as to withdraw their ambassadors. the united nations human rights spokesperson criticized israel for, quote, shocking and outrageous human rights violations. even countries like france and
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germany said israel's right to self-defense did not allow such a use of force. as you might expect, israel is defending its own actions and prime minister netanyahu said, quote, every country has an obligation to defend its borders. he also blamed hamas for the violence and said, quote, we will continue to act with determination to protect our sovereignty and our citizens. no big surprise, the white house is on israel's side. >> the responsibility for these tragic deaths rest squarely with hamas. hamas is intentionally and cynically provoking this response. as the secretary of state said, israel has the right to defend itself. >> i want to go first to nbc's ayman mohyeldin. what is who is in ramallah, the west bank. what is going on there? >> i'll have the camera pan and show you. we're on the outskirts of ramallah. right behind me, you can see
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several dozen palestinian protesters throwing stones. they dumped over or they turned over that dumpster you see there. they've been trying to move up the road. we'll have the camera move to the other side of this. you can see the israeli soldiers at the very end of that road, and what we've been seeing unfold here over the course of the past several hours are these skirmishes that is unfolding. stone throwers try to throw stones, set tires on fire, try to create a smoke screen for them to advance. every couple of minutes or so, we'll see the israeli soldiers at the end of the street charin in the direction of the protester. they've also been flying drones overhead. we had a drone fly above us, drop several canisters of tear gas on the protesters, on the press as well that is covering it. the reason it's emotionally
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charged, volatile, it is the day they commemorate the long-standing, decades-old time of suffering that began with the forming of israel. as well as jerusalem, with the embassy opening, it's now spilled over here into the west bank, which has been relatively quiet for the past 48 hours or so. today, it seems it has really flared up. there already have been reports of injuries. we already have, where we're standing, saw one palestinian hit in the head with what medices told us was a rubber bullet. some reports as well that there are injuries in the city of hebron. it gives you a sense that the violence and intensity of the protests we saw yesterday in gaza with those marchers trying to cross that fence into israel and the death toll, the staggering death toll that reached 60, with several hundred more wounded has fueled some of the protests here today as well,
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stephanie. >> the juxtaposition, the split screen, the images at the new embassy, compared to where you are now. 60 people already dead. ayman, stay safe. now, let's turn to the white house where nbc's geoff bennett is standing by. any additional response from the administration on the violence? thus far, they're painting a different picture than what ayman just described. >> the answer is no, nothing beyond what the press secretary said yesterday, placing sole responsibility on hamas for the death of those palestinians killed by israeli forces. his comments make it harder to see how the u.s. will be viewed as a partner acceptable to both sides in any potential peace deal, especially combined with the embassy move itself, which is a blow to the palestinians which say it undermines their own claim to east jerusalem as a future capital, and with the u.s. ripping up the iran nuclear deal. something israel has long lobbied for. so there are those who say the
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u.s. is making it difficult to be viewed as a legitimate honest broker in all of this. now, as for what accounts for the trump administration's approach, i can tell you that based on my conversations, it's clear that the white house is keenly aware of what the embassy move means to the president's conservative evangelical supporters. trump, after all, won 81% of white evangelical vote. for many conservative evangelical, the u.s. embassy relocation isn't about politics. it's not even about a peace plan. it's about prophesy. it has to do with the final judgment. so the embassy move is one way to signal to the president's supporters that his presidency is what's worth fighting for, even if it changes the calculus and complicates the already fraught, tense situation in the middle east, stef. >> those images are stunning, geoff, thanks. i want to bring my panel in. robert costa, national political reporter for "the washington post," steve clemens, washington
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editor at large for the atlantic. and ayman mohyeldin still with me. there's an article that says the violence we're seeing now is just the beginning. is that how you see it? >> i think it absolutely is. we've seen right now the white house shrugging at the horror that we're seeing on tv. 60 dead. 2,700 people wounded. just imagine that, 2,700 people wounded. as you noted no injuries at all on the israeli side. we see the white house shrugging at these events, walking away from them. i think palestinians whether they're being driven to do what they're doing by hamas or whether they are frustrated with the overall situation, no longer see the united states as a fair arbiter. nor a voice in this. and they're sending a signal equally important not just to israel and the u.s. right now but to other arab states in the region. and thus i think that in the past these have been tamped down by the prospect that the u.s. would play a role in trying to broker something that would be fair to both sides. that's not happening now.
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so i see this as a big pu punctuation point that will only get worse. >> is being a fair arbiter what president trump wants to do? >> absolutely not. >> president trump likes to tick down his campaign promises. he loves the fact he can say many administrations before him said they would move the embassy, but only he did it. and he doesn't just please some evangelicals. there are a lot of people who wanted the embassy moved who aren't necessarily focused on peace in the middle east, they're pro-israel. >> chuck schumer wanted this to happen and was praising it yesterday. so you're absolutely right. i think the bigger issue right now, as this unfolds, how can donald trump comb back into this mess? this isn't like zte in china where he can kind of hear from the chinese, oh, the impact of what he was doing, the zte, is putting too many chinese out of their jobs. here, he's seeing a lot of palestinians die and doing nothing to backtrack it all on the embassy, nothing to do with
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any conciliatory moves to the palestinians. he didn't make bb netanyahu pay any price at all for that move to jerusalem. and i think that all of those together are creating -- took a toxic situation and made it ten times worse. it's going to be very hard to unravel. there are different people that may applaud that. it's a reckless move. no matter who wanted this, it makes achieving peace and balance a different equilibrium. where people aren't dying every day. it makes it much tougher to achieve that now. >> robert, could the united states helped reduce the violence that took place yesterday, possibly today, if the administration had met with palestinian officials or even acknowledged the tension in some way? >> perhaps, but palestinian officials, as steve was saying, have refused to meet with u.s. officials because of the way that the u.s. has gone about its policy with middle east peace and with israel. so you see the standoff occurring. and this is the consequence of
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provocative foreign policy. for the administration, they're looking to have a more solid relationship with israel. and with netanyahu. at the same time, the cost of that is the palestinian response. it's not just about the protest, it's about the diplomacy. and they're really seeing the u.s. at this point as a partner that's not working in good faith and that's why the negotiations for peace have stalled. >> except president trump promised provocative foreign policy. he did not ever pledge to be a fair diplomatic guy, steve. >> well, i mean, we've been seeing a lot of the personalities that donald trump has sort of danced withness administration, whether it's xi jinping or others. donald trump did take actions early on after one of the prayer breakfasts in washington to basically send a signal to netanyahu not to open more settlements at that time.
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so king hussein of jordan is nowhere to be seen in this. i think eventually what happened is while he did promise he would do this, at the same time, they're talking kind of an odd illusion or fiction of talking about peace, while making this move to jerusalem, and at the end of the day, with their friendship with people like mohammad bin salman in saudi arabia and others within the region, that the president says he has a great relationship with, ultimately, those populations are going to put pressure on those leaders in the middle east states, not allowing the kind of images we're seeing on tv to continue, and that will -- that will cause some consternation for donald trump. >> ayman, can you weigh in on that very point? countries like turkey, egypt, saudi arabia, they have all come out against israel and the violence we're seeing in gaza. what are those allies going to do as this moves forward? >> well, there's two ways to
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look at this. it's very important to kind of make a distinction. i know we talk a lot about the arab street and the arab reaction. it's important to keep in mind that the arab governments are not democrat. they don't really respond to the will of their people in a way that western democracies do when there's an outrage on the street so to speak. they do take into consideration the sensitivity of places like jerusalem. but what we've seen on an official level is nothing more than really lip service from a lot of arab governments. yes there are the paper condemnations. there are the statements that come out of the arab league. but in reality, there's very little action. as you mentioned, turkey has withdrawn its ambassador from israel and the united states. south africa has done the same. we haven't seen the countries that have a peace treaty with israel not do that, not jordan, not egypt. when it comes to really what is the sentiment among arab governments, that's very different. i think you would feel if you go to the arab street, in a lot of these capitals, and many of them living in autocratic states don't risk their lives in mass
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dem demonstrations, they still feel a great sensitivity to the palestinian issue. it is something that cuts to their core. it doesn't necessarily mean they're going to take that feeling and go out and mass like what we've seen in a place like turkey that allows more popular support or freedom for the palestinian cause, but also because you do have a government in turkey that is sympathetic to the palestinians and that's why you're seeing that outpouring of support. you also see it in further places away in the muslim world like indonesia and malaysia. but in terms of specific action, we've not seen the arab countries take any concrete measures in a punitive way against israel that has the israelis concerned. they're more preoccupied with the iranian threat. a window of opportunity, as the israelis like to refer to it, where they can close that working relationship on intelligence sharing and containing the iranian threat, as they say. >> that black smoke you're looking at right now, those images are live, taking place at this moment, as people, we
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mentioned earlier, are leaving the workplace and we're going to see more taking to the streets. robert costa, last point, clearly the white house is monitoring this closely. can they continue to distance themselves or really point the finger solely at hamas? >> it's going to be a new challenge for this national security team that's just really settling into their positions, national security adviser john bolton, the new secretary of state mike pompeo, have been so focussed in recent weeks on the iran nuclear deal, on that summit coming up with north korea, possible deal there. now you have this flash point, again, in the middle east. they wanted to have this relationship with israel be bolstered by this move. but there's now violence, unrest. it's another front for an administration that has a new team at the top. >> these images are stunning and distressing. thank you all so much. ayman, please stay safe. we're going to move on to the latest on first lady melania trump who's waking up this morning after kidney surgery.
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nbc's kristen welker is at the walter reed medical center in bethesda, maryland. how's she doing? >> reporter: a white house official tells me the first lady is resting and says she is doing well. the president tweeting about her condition just moments ago. let me read you that tweet. he says our great first lady is doing really well. will be leaving hospital in two or three days. thank you so much for your love and support. there has been love and support coming in from both sides of the aisle. lawmakers, people saying they would like to see melania make a quick and full recovery. we learned about this yesterday. the white house describing the treatment as treatment for a benign kidney condition. not going into much more detail beyond that. of course, this comes exactly a week to the day after the first lady unveiled her be best campaign. that initiative really aimed at children and anti-bullying, anti-opoid abuse campaign. the first lady's office saying she is eager to get back to that
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work and make a full recovery. now, president trump wasn't here yesterday for the actual treatment. he did speak with her, i am told, by phone beforehand. th he then spoke with her doctor and came to visit her. no word yet if he's going to visit today. he has a pretty full day, including a stop on capitol hill to talk to lawmakers about a range of issues, including immigration reform. vice president mike pence, though, raised eyebrows overnight. he was speaking at an event in washington, d.c., he said this was a long-planned procedure. so everyone here from house speaker paul ryan, democrats, saying they hope the first lady gets better very quickly, stef. >> we do as well, sending her well wishes for a speedy recovery. we're going to leave it there. next, it is primary day. voters in four states head to the polls as the 2018 races heat up and you know what that means, the one and only steve core nko here with his big board magic to
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break it all down. later, more fallout over the president's bizarre tweet about chinese telecom giant zte, this time courtesy of steven colbert. >> make no mistake, zte is no friend of the u.s. the fbi, cia and nsa have publicly accused the company of allowing its devices to be used by the chinese government to spy on americans. as an american, i do not want some chinese company spying on me. i want facebook to do it.
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a fierce political show you aroundway this morning in four key states as voters head to the polls in several crucial primary battles coast to coast. for democrats, the stakes are by far the highest in pennsylvania. that's where they hit some of the best opportunities to pick up house seats this november after a court order redrew the state's congressional district maps. let's get the details from the one and only steve kornacki. break all of this down for me. >> primaries in four states. let's focus on pennsylvania. because today it really, on election night in november, we're going to spend a lot of time looking at this state. let's set this up. in 2016, we all remember donald trump by a 46,000-vote margin won pennsylvania, won the presidency. look a little bit below that on the ballot, republicans won the lion's share of house seats. that was the court case. democrats say it's gerrymandering. they're drawing these lines to give themselves an unfair advantage. a court weighed in.
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let's show you what that's meant looking into november. to draw a map where your party can get 13 states even though its candidate is barely winning the state that means there were already, even before this court ordered redrawing, there were already a lot of vulnerable republican seats in this state. these are republican incombants who were elected in 2017. some of them yet a single-digit trump margin. even before this court case, democrats were saying we got opportunities in pennsylvania. then they draw the map. whoa, that's hard to understand. here's what it means in terms of incumbents. pat meehan, he ran into a scandal. his district was clinton plus two. they redrew it. that's now a democratic district. ryan costello, he was in an extremely competitive district. they redrew the map, became a double digit clinton district. ryan costello said, i'm not running again. huge opportunity because of that
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map. ryan fitzpatrick, it was dead even, a tie. now a slight democratic, a slight clinton advantage in that district. you see this. one republican got a better deal. here's another one. dent, his district went from trump by eight to clinton by one. guess what, charlie dent, he's out of here. matt cartwright. perry, a trump 22 district, comes down to single districts. lamb and rothfus, one will win. perry, that's two, dent's district, that's three. four, five, six. previously republican districts as of the 2016 election under this new map. they move more in the clinton direction. so already democrat, the magic number is 23 for them. pa, full of opportunities, even more opportunities now, stephanie. >> there's one thing we know, a lot of americans want something different. joining me now, democratic congressman eric swalhill from the great state of california. and congressman jolly of florida.
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pennsylvania, massively important for democrats. what do they need to do to win. when you saw president trump do so well in suburban areas, after we saw morally rep rehencive behavior. all of the things we talk about, is it going to matter this time? >> it's about the voters, not donald trump. their live, saving more, doing better, dreaming bigger for their kids, i think they're going to be with us. also i think pennsylvania shows us that when the maps are fair, we can compete and we should use this hopefully as a, you know, motivating factor to get rid of dirty maps everywhere. one of the first things i hope we do is pass independent redistricting. we have bills to do that that would make every state have to do this. it has such a corrupting influence. when it's democrats or republicans. are drawing maps just for their
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friends and protecting incumbents. it's going to come down to are you for my kids, are you for health care, are you for jobs and not about making it for trump. >> what is it about, this redistricting? >> i think the odds are democrats take the house. the reason why goes to a lot of what steve was saying. you have right now 23 seats that have to flip. there actually are 23 republican held seats in congress in districts where hillary clinton won. if you look at the special elections if trump got elected, democrats have overperformed, right. we have seen them pick off one or two. the reality is those are super majority republican seats. when these races come down to 23 or 24 that are competitive, democrats are going to put every single one of those points on the board. to eric's point, democrats have to decide what their message is. the anti-trump energy on the left will take care of itself. democrats need to decide what is their message to voters.
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i'm not sure we've seen that yet. we haven't needed to. the anti-trump stuff is taking care of it. republicans will start spending money about 90 days out. it will be spent on some hard messaging. democrats voted for higher taxes. democrats are going to need to coellis around a message. the opportunity is theirs. >> congressman, i have to a degr agr agree. i don't know we've heard a clear democratic message. the immediate next conversation is will he get impeached. that doesn't seem to be what everyday americans care about. >> that's not a winner. we shouldn't miss the message. they thought he was the guy that would put it back in reach. for us, it's around this idea that you work hard, an america that should mean something, hard work should amount to your kids having good skills. amount to you not going bank rupt because you get sick. your hard work amounts to you
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being the first with the kid that goes off to college. so investing again, in building. something he likes to talk about. i think one of the first things we should do is put on his desk the things this he's already said he would sign. divisive. say, donald trump, you said 1 trillion and a half infrastructure, here's the bill. you said you're going to solve immigration, here it is, mr. president. take the heat. background checks, here it is. prescription drugs, here's what we can do. we scan start and see if he's serious. >> part of that american dream that so many people have is rooted in capitalism. it is a centrist idea. and you acknowledge if you run the risk into going so far left into socialist country, you're going to lose those hard-working americans who do, dare i say it, want to be rich one day. >> we should not try to divide
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success and multiply it. it's not just the ceo and the c-sweep people on the first floor who get it. every person, every floor. >> to that point, that forgotten american, somehow democrats lost and president trump won. but he has not delivered. if you look at what he's done, he talks a great populous gift. it certainly works at his rallies. he has extraordinarily high emotional intelligence. but every weekend, when he trucks on down to mar-a-lago and high fives guys, he's hooking those brothers up. but not people around the country. when is that going to hit home for them? >> if bill clinton felt your pain, donald trump felt your anger. he knew you were mad at the system. the reality is, donald trump and congressional republicans have abandoned those very people from the day they began the super majority in government. >> they don't know it though. >> they're listening to the echo
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chamber of the c suite, of the ceos. who say thank you for giving me $600 million in tax cuts, i'll give you 30 for your next re-election. both parties are having hay hard family conversation right now. where is their ideology within the party? whose party is it right? the opportunity for either party, but particularly democrats right now, look, i'm a republican voter. i was a former member of congress. yes, i do tv work. i'm going to the ballot box in november, wanting divided government because i don't trust the current government under donald trump and republicans in congress. however, to your point on capitol hillism, if democrats become the elizabeth warren party and go too far left, they're going to scare me off. so then what do i do in november? i'm going into november hoping for divided government. yes, that means democrats take the house. unless they scare me away. that's a hard conversation. everything from where are you in your gut as democrats to what do
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pollsters say. >> is that a hard reality for you and your team? you want to get that bernie sanders voter. but you don't want to do it at the risk of losing the middle. >> going across the country, particularly in the midwest, i've talked to so many bernie sanders voters who voted for donald trump. for them, a lot of it was just around fairness. someone who was willing to be authentic and speak real to them. now, again, they're going to have to look themselves in the mirror and their families in the eyes when it comes to the election and ask are we doing better. i'll tell you, most families, they're not seeing their paychecks grow. they're seeing health care is eating up more and more of their costs. they're one emergency away from just going completely into debt. that's an issue we always owned. we have to bring back the blue color voters who have been with us. i don't think that's too far out of reach to this. >> donald trump went to see all
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those voters. he told them he cared. now someone has to deliver. president trump in a tweet of course implies we will soon see action on trade with china. quote, trade negotiations are continuing with china. they've been making hundreds of billions of dollars a year from the u.s. for many years. stay tuned. this of course comes after the president vowed to bring back jobs to the chinese telecom company zte. joins me now is cnbc's kala. this is not just we have to help these factory workers. this is a company that has been fined more than $1 billion. a company that was in violation, doing business with north korea, and now the president saying let's get back in business because he wants to play ball and get something done with china. does he need to do that in order to make any progress? >> well, stef, we don't know what's on the other side of this coin. we don't know potentially what the president will be getting in return. we have learned from sources that could potentially be on the
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table is the approval of a major u.s. semiconductor merger or the reversal of agricultural tariffs that china just put into effect a couple of months ago. those are two important but relatively small concessionses that the u.s. would be getting, so i have to believe there still potentially could be more on the table. zte has an american business component to this. a year ago, a year plus, the commerce department fined it $1 billion but in april said no u.s. companies could supply any components to zte because of their continued violations of those sanctions that you mentioned. that would potentially harm business for u.s. suppliers and something the president pointed out in a tweet yesterday. so we'll see what they end up doing. you've seen secretary ross. you've seen larry kudlow try to hedge on this because they don't want it to seem like u.s. enforcement actions are unenforceable. >> yes, because of course it was will burr ross who came out aggressively against zte months ago.
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talk me through the huffington post report that president trump's zte backing came just after the chinese government agreed to put a whopping half a billion bucks into a project that involved, of course, the trump organization. >> well, the timing is suspect, stef, because of course the trump organization said it would be forgoing international expansion while president trump was in office because of optics like this. now, we should say, negotiations for this project, they started before trump was in office and the timing to me will be interesting. when it opens and when the trump brand and name that is being licensed for this project begins to see the windfall from it. it is true these zte potential concessions would come a month before a major summit with north korea, while trade talks with china are currently ongoing. so they could be related to those. but the optics of this are very suspect. especially because of what the trump organization pledged a
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little more than a year ago. >> okay, the optics might be suspect, but are they smart? you want to do business with president trump, you want to get president trump to play ball, stay at a trump property. do business with his family. it's how he's operated for years and years. if i was china, unless i was violating some sort of law, that's the route i would take. 500 million bucks is chump change if i can get trump to the table on zte. >> what's notable is the $500 million is coming from china's infrastructure initiative called one belt, one road, that president xi has been seeking validation from the u.s. on. president trump and then secretary of state rex tillerson last year offered that validation on that project. it's essentially a way for china to increase its influence and its soft power overseas. so there is some very cruel irony that it is that initiative by which china is investing in this trump property, which has a lot of people scratching their heads. >> what do you guys think?
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>> a leopard doesn't change its spots. the president is so close to russia, they invested in him for decades. he likes president erdogan in turkey, has a trump property there. i think it's obvious there's a correlation. >> this stinks of corruption. this is not about chinese jobs. this is about a president who names a very specific company, a company that had been sanctioned for selling american technology to iran and north korea. this is graft and corruption, there is something more behind this. >> but is it illegal? the president is very comfortable in being in this unethical vortex, where he goes, i can't do anything wrong, i'm the president. they smile and laugh through this. >> whether it's illegal or not will be determined by what facts come out. i can tell you this, it's not in the security interest of the united states and it's the president of the united states who is violating that oath. >> the leaks in the white house and whether or not we're ever going to get an apology about the john mccain comment. isn't it amazing that story
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like infrastructure equals controversy coming out of the white house. if you think that, you're not alone. i'm going to give you a quick recap. the first white house infrastructure week was last june. it was eclipsed by former fbi director jim comey's blockbuster testimony on capitol hill. just a few months later, during infrastructure week number two, the president derailed his own news conference by defending white nationalists protesting in charlottesville, virginia. and in february this year, infrastructure week number three, president trump unveiled his long awaited infrastructure plan while dodging questions about the rob porter scandal and new details from a former playboy playmate karen mcdougal about an alleged affair with the president. six weeks later, the white house tried for a fourth time. the president went to ohio to promote his infrastructure agenda. but it ended up being his first major appearance after stormy daniels went on "60 minutes." this week, the administration is once again rolling it out while struggling with controversy,
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trying to contain leaks from inside the administration. the president weighed in last night, tweeting, quote, the so-called leaks coming out of the white house are a massive overexaggeration put out by the fake news media in order to make us look bad. well that doesn't make sense. with that being said, leakers are traitors and cowards and we will find out who they are. mr. president, there's nothing to overexaggerate. how would we ever have known what was said about john mccain inside the white house unless members of your team told us? i want to bring in a dear friend of mine who according to her twitter bio, quote, lives every week like it's infrastructure week. that means partying her you know what off for the last year. and congressman eric swalwell and congressman jolly still with me. shannon, i know the white house is frustrated. they've tried to push out infrastructure week many, many times. this is one initiative that
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should get bipartisan support and it has been a massive failure. where are we now? >> it really could have been one of the first things they did out of the gate. yes, would have brought democrats and republicans together and carried through on the president's promise that he was going to be a president for all americans. instead, he went to health care, which, you know, quickly polarized everyone. and now at this point there is really no serious point person in the white house handling infrastructure. it was really being led by gary cohn and d.j. gribbens. both of them left. at one point there was an intrastructure council. that fell apart after those charlottesville comments. now it is something that larry kudlow, cohen's predecessor, could pick up but he's still new in the job. we're back further than where we were last year as far as being able to get any infrastructure plan through congress. >> okay, but here's why i don't buy it, congressman jolly,
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everyone says everyone needs a new infrastructure plan that's going to create jobs, going to help this country. here's the problem it costs a huge amount of money. it's not sexy. no one feels like they need it to survive. nobody ever votes for it. >> how do you pay for it. and the fact is, republicans already spent that money. they spent it on big corporate tax cuts. >> correct. >> so now the revenue's not there unless they go to the american people and say we need to raise the gas tax, user fees, raise revenue somehow to do this. the reality is the president had an opportunity to lead with infrastructure and, frankly, this is the tragedy of donald trump, the person who said i'm a deal maker, i'm bipartisan. he should have been smoking cigars with chuck schumer on the night of his inauguration and saying let's change washington. even if we have ten more infrastructure weeks this year. >> let's listen to what sarah
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huckabee sanders said about infrastructure. >> we're going to continue to look at ways to improve the nation's infrastructure. in terms of a specific piece of legislation, i'm not aware that will happen by the end of the year. >> what she's saying is the republican-led federal government has no major legislative agenda in 2018, at least on infrastructure. >> well, they have consensus among the american people and members of congress that we need this. and nothing would change the fortunes more for those forgotten communities that the president has talked about than investing in them. connecting them to this innovation economy. greening their grid so we don't have this false choice between clean air and clean water and killing jobs. that would lift them up. that would i think really show them you believe in them. and it would also allow families to spend less time in their car and more time at home with their kids. and so it's a win-win all around. i really thought stephanie, if he came in and did infrastructure first, he would have the opportunity to have been the first truly independent president because he would have had both parties with him and he
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would have been able to build on that momentum. they squandered it. i don't think it's lost. i still think he can put it in front of the congress and he would still have support. >> it's needed. he's a builder. it's his back ground. it also plays to his base. i want to go back to the leaks for a minute. my mind is blown over the fact that communications aide -- and, again, she's a communications specialist -- kelly sadler has not publicly apologized. what gives here? >> well, apologies are not something the trump white house is known for. this really even goes back to the campaign. >> but isn't he the unpredictable guy? be unpredictable. just say sorry. >> apologize, yeah, i know. no one would have seen that coming. but it is back to the very early days of the campaign. i remember someone telling me when then candidate trump came out, made those comments about mexicans being, you know, murderers and rapists and his advisers were telling him apoll
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jui apologize, just go out and apologize, and he refused to apologize, he did not back down, and then he saw the support build up underneath him of people who supported him not backing down. we saw the same thing about charlottesville which you mentioned again. this white house does not apologize. i do not have any reporting to indicate that someone is telling kelly sadler not to apologize on this one. but it is just one thing we have not seen out of this white house. we've seen a lot, is an apology about anything ever. >> what's the math here? how is this a winning strategy and to whom? >> it's not. it's just a donald trump strategy. look, kelly sadler -- >> but kelly's not his hand maiden. she could say, great, you don't say sorry, but i do. >> listen, kelly sadler should publicly apologize so her kids see what a mother does in a moment of personal failing. so the nation sees you can say something stupid, but a popolog,
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ask forgiveness. he won't fire her. here's why. i work obd ted on the hill for years. we had a staffer say something very stupid about another member of congress. we had to fire him. even though he asked forgiveness. the reason why was the principle. the congressman we worked for would have to go to the floor and see his colleagues and his colleagues would say what type of operation are you running if you have staff throwing insults at members of congress? donald trump should fire staffs who insults somebody like john mccain. he won't. it is why he is a little man. because he engages in this type of petty childish behavior. and will never apologize, even though the heart of the country wishes he would. >> it's not the sadler white house, it's the trump white house. the buck stops with him. he should fire her if she's not willing to apologize. >> every day you wake up and you're all by yourself looking in the mirror. you brush your teeth and you look in the mirror. you can say, you know what, i'm sorry. in the president doesn't like it, you can tell him to pound
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time for money, power, politics. get ready to place your bets. the supreme court has opened the door for states to legalize sports betting, an industry that already illegally rakes in nearly 150 billion bucks a year. my old friend eric is cnbc sports and business reporter. eric, welcome. walk me through this. how soon are we going to see legalized sports betting? and talk about the states that win because for my home state of new jersey where atlantic city has been on its last leg, is it a game changer for them? >> reporter: so a couple things going on. the supreme court 24 hours ago they said that congress, their law didn't work so every state they can set whatever rules they want. so new jersey's rules could be different from new york's could be dprir be different from pennsylvania's. they have been at the forefront of this movement on the shore
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spending millions of dollars get ailing sports book ready. they think they're going to be ready in two weeks by memorial day weekend you can start placing bets, baseball games, basketball games, but what's interesting the way that the new jersey rules work they are regulating it so that you can do sports bets but only at a casino or a horse track like this one. other states they may say you can bet on your phone, wherever you want, at home. you may not have to go to a track or casino. that's what you'll have to watch state by state around the country. >> shut leagues be worriould thd about corruption? >> reporter: they've been talking about how they need an integrity royalty fee to stamp out corruption whereas the nfl their statement has been about we need federal regulation so that we can keep this together. that's why senator oren hatch he's talked about how this thereis corruption because of the gambling. yesterday he said he's going to try to push through some federal regulation before all these
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kpod disfr exodus from israel. the u.n. security council meeting right now. some country's furious about israel's use of force. the white house is not. as you see the israel rep to the u.n. speaking there. we'll talk about why the trump administration is looking at pictures like this and argue peace is still very much a reality. plus, here at home a new update on how the first lady's doing with word she will be out of the hospital earlier than expected. that procedure on her kidney, a surprise to almost everybody, but maybe not vice president who says it's been planned for a while. speaking of the vp, the number two taking the number one spot when it comes to campaigning out in force nor gop candidates including in that spring of primaries today. why that might be make something trump loyalists a little nervous. we have a lot of show on this primary day in the next 60 minutes, but i wanted to start with our team here and ready to go. we'll start with chief correspondent richard engel in gaza. richard, you've been on the ground for 24, 48 h


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