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taking a knee or stay in the locker room during the nationa anthem calling their ptests disrespectful. instead of celebrating the eagles, the white house today held an eventebting at flag. let's watch the president. >> i want to take this opportunity to be explain why young americans stand for national anthem. maybe it's about time that we understood. we stand to honor our military and to honor ourcountry. anton remember the fallen heroes who never made it back home. so we stand together for freedom, we stand together for patriotism. and we proudly stand for our glorious nation under god. i want to thank you all for being here. this is a beautiful big celebration. actually, to be honest, it's even bigger than we had anticipated.
>> for the record, an nef source told nbc news that not a single eagles player took a knee during the 2017 regular season. in fact, a source outside the white house with direct knowledge told nbc news the president called off the visit because fewer than ten people including coaches, players and trainers planned to attend. sarah sanders offer this had laughable defense. >> this wasn't. >> if this wasn't a political stunt by the eagles they wouldn't have planned to attend and backed out at the last minute and wouldn't have the attempted to reschedule the visit when they knew the president would be overseas and if this wasn't a political stunt, they wouldn't have waited till well after a thousand o their fans had traveled and taken time out of their schedules to offer only a tiny handful of representatives to attend the event. >> in a statement, the nfl players association said "our union is disappointed in the decision by the white house. nfl players love their country,
support our troops." malcolm jenkins, an advocate wrote "it's hard to meet with people who don't agree with you and to have tough conversations about uncomfortable race related issues and make positive change." this is what is my leagues and i have been facing for the past two years. instead the decision was made to lie and paint the picture these players are anti-american, anti-flag and anti-military. philadelphia mayor jim kenny expressed pride in the hope town players blast add the president. >> well, the eagles are still world champions regardless where they're going today. i'm very proud of our team and proud of the organization for their involvement in the community. donald trump is meaningless to this whole process. it's meaningless -- he's meaningless to the city and the city's success. he tries at every chance he gets to tear cities down and eventually he'll be gone. one way or the other. we'll move on. >> i'm joined by donte stallworth, a veteran of the nfl
who played for the eagles, david xi ron author of "game over, how politics have turned t sport world updedown." and jimmy kem ski. >> dahntay, first of all, i don't get how trump has managed to start a faux fight between football players, a lot of them african-americans and military people, a lot of them african-americans. i do not see the fight. the fight's over police treatment of people and how to display that sentiment that politics at a football game is not about a battle between people who fight for the country and people who fight on sunday. i don't understand it, but trump has managed to mesh it together in that brilliant conflagration and pile of crap this try's fighting over right now. i went to a lot of football games in my life. the pledge -- the national anthem is for our love of country. it's not about the military or the latest war or any of that stuff.
it's about love of the countryo. you're a player and you've been there. >> i think you kn whathe prident has done in this case, just tough continue the disturbing pattern of the things that he'll talk about with professional athletes and black professional athletes in particular when he does like you said, the brilliant conflation between juxtaposing the military with the anthem and the flag and the players kneeling and the players have said consistently from the very beginning that this is about inequities in policing and enequities in the criminal justice system. and a lot of the players have done great work. he's called these players s.o.b.s. he's talked down about the players, said they shouldn't be the incountry. when we have neo-nazi marching in charlottesville, it takes him 48 hours to make a statement and when he does, they're very fine people.
those are the people hop should leave the country, not these men who are role models in their communities and the cities and colleges they went to. these men vin children looking up to them for good reason. they've done a lot of great work and will continue to do s regardless of the nfl's new anthem rule or the president continuing to spew his hatred and divisive rhetoric. >> jimmy, i want to talk about philly because i grew up there. i've been to some games lately. i have to t you, there's nothing more inspiring in an american way to see a south philly italian guy with an allen iverson jersey on. normally they may not get along too, as well but on football on basketball night, they root for the players, the running backs, the quarterbacks together. it's unity. sunday morning is not a time of unity in this country but sunday afternoon we get along and it's true in washington, d.c. and the redskins i see guys who are
african-americans get into the game, makeup, indian music everything. it's a united thing. and trump has found the one area we all sort of agree on, cab drivers and people that don't normally like each other agree on sports and he says let's fight. he knows what he is doing. he wants white guys on cold days with their faces all red and some vikings game or green bay game, they want them to hate the players. this is what he wants, trump. am i wrong or right? i think i'm right. you're the expert. >> i agree. i covered the parade that they had after the super bowl. there were 3 million plus people i think that attended that. it was all backgrounds, au kinds of races. and donald trump in my view has -- couldn't care less about the national anthem. i mean. >> right. >> this whole situation was kind of wrapping itself up.
the nfl had you know, put out over $80 million over the next seven years, that would go toward the education of police and the community and how they can better work together. these are things that malcolm jenkins who raised his fist during the national anthem before eagles games, that was a big thing he advocated for. so there was progress being made, and really there was n need for any enter vengz from donald trump k to kind of bully the owners into putting out a new policy in which the nfl can fine teams for players kneeling during account anthem and in turn, the teams can fine the players. there's no need for that whatsoever. it was going away. he doesn't want it to go away because there is something that it's something that his base has kind of embraced unfortunately and it's something you're going to see him continue to try to, you said, divide people. >> he thinks he's got the white
fans. does he with this? >> the white fans are polarized. >> david, you haven't spoken. what do you make of trump's play to divide? i think he knows he would rather talk about your side or my side than he would am i guilty or not. am i guilty or not is not the question he wants on collusion. he wants the issue to be are you on my side of the culture divide or the other side. your thoughts. >> today is a day to celebrate the eagles not because they won the super bowl but because this is the most socially conscious team we've seen in sports in some time independent of donald trump. what they were going to do today was going to make history. sports teams have been going to the white house since the johnson administration, not lyndon johnson, andrew johnson. it goes back to 165. yet, you have never seen a team on political grounds, 75% of the team it was looking like saying they weren't going to show up. they were clear about their reasons. these are reasons that donald
trump does not want to confront. sn't want to have the discussion about the reasons they're putting forward. they're talking about trump's racism what, doesn't kef referred to. they talk about his sexism as tory smith has. they talk about immigration, about criminal justice. these are the discussions they want to have. donald trump won't talk about those issues unless it's to fan their flames. weather does is i diverts the discussion, deem conditionizes and if is the rhetoric with deceit. >> the first african-american president according to donald trump for a couple of years was an illegal immigrant. then he starred saying well, he learned his anti-colonial, british attitudes from his father who he never really met. the lies that trump told about barack obama, the first african-american president to me is his original sin. i don't have any problem if sodyemembers it. your thoughts? what is it about the general attitude towards trump that inspired players to say i'm not going down for the photo op? >> yeah, i think you hit it
perfectly. the players have known this you know, if not before he started his campaign with that type of rhetoric with the whole birther issue up till his campaign. the number of things dave mentioned, the immigration, misogyny, racism, the dog whistling, it's been happening for a very long time. you know, last season season before that. obviously it's continuing now and up till today. the cherry on top was the president was singing the words to glad you bless america, didn't know the words. god bless his heart. that's the herry of being a patriot today. >> jimmy, did you say something? >> that was me. >> it was just stunning that he didn't know the words to the anthem. to me it's like a hollywood screen writer would reject this. to god bless america that you stood up there and didn't know it. the other interesting thing was an intrepid philadelphia reporter was asking the people
who conspicuouslyere not wearing any eagles gear was asking them hey, do you know who the quarterback was in the super bowl for the eagles? nobody knew. so today was basically a late lunch for congressional staffers. >> exactly, from the eob coming across the street. i was thinking they don't know who the birds are. this isn't the first time trump used football for theater. catch this performance. this win jet. vice president mike presence flew home to indiana only to walk out of a football game after several athletes knelt during the anthem. he went out just to do this little show that appeared to be a premeditated stunt. according to an nbc reporter outside the stadium with the pence team "a staffer told him it the vice president may depart the game early." you bet you he would. prump quickly tweeted i asked vice president pence to leave the stadium if any players kneeled disrespecting our country." one thing i love about america srg if a politician shows up at a sports stadium, he or she is
always booed. it's one of the great democratic places. tuck say what you think of these pols and it's fun. you know why? because you feel it. nobody tells you to put your head out and call account guy a bum. you feel like calling the guy a bum. it's called freedom. your thoughts, jimmy. >> personally speaking, this is being on msnbc is fun for a coup days but this is probably something that's going to drag on for the year with trump being involved and the eagles at the forefront of this issue. normally i'm onto talk about who the eagles slot corner is going to be or who starts at wide receiver. instead i'm here talking about this. it's not that i d want to do this but it's something that sports is supposed to be fun and he's making it not fun. >> the guys that call can you up in the middle of the night, they go do you think jimmy rollins should get a five or three-year
contract. i can't believe the knowledge the first time trump has yanked a white house invitatm a sports time over his bruised ego, of the la september the nba gold (state warriors were disinvited after steemp curry said he was opposed to going. he said i'm not sure if i'm going to go. trump wrote on twitter going to the white house is considered a great honoror championship team. stephen curry is hesitating. therefore, inip have itationings is withdrawn. tomorrow night the warriors will face the cavaliers in game three of the nba fims. lebron james reacted to this latest controversy. >> it's typical of him. i'm not surprised. tip calf him and i don't know. i mean -- i mean i know no
matter who wins this series, no one wants to invite anybody. it won't deserve golden state or cleveland going. >> i was think guys in the nba playoffs and probably probab thinking about this right now thinking i've got this big game tonight. i guess we're not going to the white house. david in. >> i guarantee you're not going to see dewpoint clam back at lebron james because james has a large social media following and he tends to only kick or punch down. after james said that, steph curry agreed with him. it minds me of something a player on the cavaliers richardever son said after the 2016 finals when they visited the obama white house where he said it's an honor to be the last nba team to visit the white house. >> you know what i see when i watch nebraska playoffs this year, something missing at the white house among the best players. nobility. i feel like i'm in the presence of nobility, these guys. and that goes for kevin and klay
and a whole bunch of them. unbelievable great people. thank you, doesn'te stallworth, david thank you, and jimmy kemski. >> coming up, one reason trump would rather have a fight about football players is he's feeling the heat on the russia probe. the pressure is mounting on paul manafort who could be the star witness for mueller against him in the prosecution while trump continues exert vast authority tort shut down the whole thing. now a judge ruled he would be deposed in the case of a former apprentice contestant for a deposition. we're talking possible perjury. that's ahead. plus the roundtable tackles e outliers rage of what's happening on the border of mexico with kids separated from families. plus eric trump says his dad's life has become exponentially worse since becoming president.
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after the president's conspiracy theories about the mueller probe flopped last month, his desperation has been on full display and once againe's airing grievances on his favorite medium twitter. yesterday he made the baseless an sherrion the appointment of robert mueller itself is "totallyunconstitutional." after claiming he had the absolute righto pardon himself for his potential crimes. so mueller's illegal, he can do anything he wants. that's the message. it's against that backdrop that the west is now reporting that "private moves by trump's attorneys and advisers indicate despite the president's public bravado, they are red readying for a fraulth fraught legal confro confrontation. one source says the fledgling briefings have not gone very deep because the president's anger about the probe. meanwhile, we're learning that the president must now give swn testimony in a sare civil suit, a judge today ruled that the president can be
disposed in a connection with the defamation lawsuit filed by former "apprentice" contestant summer zar vos. she alleges trump defamed her when heenied her allegations an of improper sexual contact which she says took places in 2007. i'm joined by robert costa, a political analyst and barbara mcquard, former u.s. attorney and msnbc contributor. robert and barbara,hese are complicated times in the sense so much seems to be coming at trump. you've got it looks like the book being thrown at paul manafort in an attempt to make him a star witness against trump, the crowning achievement was to hit him for jury tampering today. then the fact that trump is out there the in almost like the wild saying i can do anything. these guys are illegal. i can pardon myself it, almost going manic in his claims of all powerness.
is this the reckoning we you thought was coming and seems to be coming? >> it is a reckoning based on reporting. tonight there's an torrent of political and legal challenges confronting this president. just got off the phone with newt gingrich. he said the president is sending a signal to everyone involved in the mueller obe, if he can issue a pardon to somebody this week who is involved with celebrity or athletics or a former governor, he could certainly issue a pardon with regard to the russia investigation. they also are mounting a public war against mueller's credibility. that's the way most people around the president are talking to reporters about this whole experience, a political and legal war. >> meanwhile, do you sense that the trouble is coming from their perspective? does trump go to bed at night thinking more about stuff than the nfl taking a knee? is he thinking they're coming with the evidence? >> it's not so much about -- the nfl issue is certainly an issue. on policy. >> evidence on the russian probe on obstruction, on his money
laundering. > that is the central issue because after the june 12th summit in singapore, he has to make a choice. will he sit down with bob mueller or not to do an interview. if he doesn't, he fays a possible subpoena battle and beyond that, he faces a report on his conduct that could be given to rod rosenstein, the deputy attorney general. >> let me go to barbara on the legal question. the latest one is a judge in manhattan has said he has to sit down to answer questions up to seven hours apparently, i don't know where the number came from, on the summer zar boes case, a suit against him for saying she's lying about the relationship they had. yeah, not surprising that's the decision in the case. very consistent with the decision we saw in bill clinton in the paula jones case. >> that's the one that got him in trouble. >> it is. a sitting president, it can be required to sit for a deposition. under oath. you've got to be very disciplined to answer questions
truthfully in that setting. as you sa, chris, that's where bill clinton got into trouble because you end up finding yourself in a situation of committing perjury or obstruction of justice. that could be grounds for impeachment. this may be just an as perilous to trump as the mueller investigation. >> what about that case? if the president of the united states c be asked questions in discovery like were there any other cases with your paid off a woman you had a relationship with? can they ask tt. >> i think so. i don't think they could get into things like did you collude with russia to throw the election. they could ask questions like that. there's a thry in the rules of evidence that allows you to ask questions in a common scheme or plan. if this is his m.o. he engages in relationships and seeks to pay them off, that is fertile ground for asking questions. if you were to lie in response to that question, he couldn't be charged with a crime because he's a sitting president but it could be grounds for impeachment. >> in a pair of tweets on sunday
two days ago, the president commented on his indicted former campaign chairman paul manafort. among other things, hsa paul manafort came into the campaign very late and with us for a short period of time. we should have been told that comey and the boys were doing a number on him and he wouldn't have been hired. now we're learning the special counsel in a court filing last night is accusing manafort of witness tampering and seek 0ing to revoke his bail agreement alleging manafort. >> contacted two potential witnesses in an effort to influence their testimony and conceal evidence. it's up to the judge to decide whether manafort will have to go to jail which could pressure manafort to cooperate with investigators agait the esident. every time i look at paul manafort, he has this stoic quality. i sympathize with the guy. i met him a few times during the campaign. he walks into those courtrooms time after time. it's got wearn him. at some point, he's going to start showing disappointment and going to think about throwing
the president under the bus. robert, how much do they think about that when they watch manafort in these walks to and from the courtroom? >> talking to people familiar with the federal probe, federal investigators want to break manafort. he's the rare person in this whole investigation who hasn't pled guilty if indicted who has chosen not to cooperate. will go to trial. for the president, the manafort trial hovers in the distance even if he's not directly involved, it's his former campaign chairman. the federal investigators want people to cooperate. he had want a cooperating ess. >> common sense. manafort spent a lifetime, much of his career working with the east with ukrainsia, moscow. he's sitting there as the president's campaign chairman for months. barbara, won't, it would seem to me at some point during their months working together talking abthey c win the election a hillary clinton and looking for dirt he would be one of the people in the conversation. that just seems logical. >> certainly he's in a position
to do that. nobody knows exactly what paul manafort knows whether he has evidence but he was certainly in a positioning to having information and so if you're robert mueller you want to talk to him to find out what he knows. cooperation would be ve. in light of president trump's recentpa pardons, paul manafort finds himself in a different position than most defendanted who always face the hobson's choice do i take my chances at trial or cooperate with the government. >> if you're paul manafort and you don't have any conscience bps trump. what's your best bet, hoping that the federal prosecutor in this case robert mueller give you a break of a lifetime and excuse everything he's filed up against you right now? what's a better bet. >> certainly he could reduce his potential exposure by cooperating. in light of the recent spate of pardons, maybe if you're manafort you take your chances prump will have your back.
>> thank you robert, barbara. up next the "hardball" roundtable takes on trump's latest stunt tunt involving the nfl. the controversy at the border with the kids being separated and eric trump saying his father's life has been exponentialle since ran prident. the smart ones look to fidelity to find them. we give you research and data-visualization tools to help identify potential opportunities. so, you can do it this way... or get everything you need to help capture investment ideas and make smarter trading decisions with fidelity fidelity. open an account today. ♪ open an account today. a hilton getaway means you get more because... you get another day in paradise. get a sunset on a sunday. get more stories to share. get more from your summer getaway with exclusive hilton offers.
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speech, why doesn't the white house support players' right to free >> thedent doe't think that this is an issue simply of free speech. wack to "hardball." that was peter alexander with an apt question asking press secretary sarah sanders why the president and the white house supported a baker's first amend to refuse to bake a cake for a same sex couple while attacking first amendment right to express their. >> susan del%io, republican strategist and analyst. i never know the difference between analyst and contributor and reporter from the "washington post." let's talk about that interesting fight. this7-2 decion is an impressive decision. you made an interesting one. we'll make more down the road. it is about free expression. everybody bakes a cake of a
certain kind, considers it art, personal expression. clearly the players taking a knee are expressing their first amendment rights. why can't the white house be consistent aordi t peter achd's question. >> putting aside the details of the cake shop decision which were quite complex and much narrower than the question of free expression. >> and stephen breyer on side, think a little. >> exactly. but this is trump's ideology and it's his political strategy. he was having a lot of bad news and he knows that to pick on we'lly black men and say that they're the one who's don't like the flag, they don't love this country just because they. >> they donuy ts who fight for the country. if you go back to the latest statistics as many minorities fighfor the country ashite people do. >> certainly asd trump, mr. bone spurs who avoided the draft in every single way he could. countrs do this, you play the
national anthem for big social occasions whenever you get together. i never thought it was particularly directed at the people that were killed in battle or people who bed. it's about love of country. trump has grabbed it into a social issue where he can get the black players against the men to die ford the country. he's creating a drama that isn't implicit at all what they were doing. >> here's the bigger thing. he created there because he did not like the turnout. this all comes down top crowd size. that's what this president is about. it's about the size of the crowd. >> speak to me, republican. i love when people identify who they are. >> i'm a republican. i don't consider the president part of my party. >> how about those guys we see at football games? i figure they're trump people. it's freezing out. up at a green bay. they've got the attitude. that he tough.
he thinks they're his people. trump thinks they're his people. he has a point. >> where he's making a fundamental mistake is he's doing this in lf e 2018 midterm elections. donald trump maybe his policies and his twitter is on the ballot in some regard but his name is not. is does not transfer. the people. >> look what he's doing right now, showing off like a fairy see in the temple his patriotism. >> i wonder how many sports games he's attended if we could find the footage of how many times he didn't stand up. >> think about somebody else. trump today blamed democrats for an immigration policy his adstration put in place. he tweetsed separating families at the border is the result of bad legislation passed by the democrats. anyway, according to fact check.com, the new separation policy is not a democratic law but rather a new zero tolerance policy put in place by the trump administration. prior to trump, the policy was to hold families together until
they could appear before a judge. that's a different policy. isn't it? nbc news is reporting the new policy has left border agents and child whenever agents li to fin ace to house hundreds of kids separated. there's an element here of sophie's choice. there's something about taking kids away. i was watching the israeli film and thinking it separating kids from the parents? that's what terroristsdo >>hi is a decisionad by the administration forhe purposes of deterrence. this is something said today by attorney general jeff sessions. it was said in an interview with npr by john kelly last month. they are doing this because they want people to be afraid to cop to the boarder with their children. that's why they're separating kids as young as 1 months from their families. i have a son 17 months. the idea of having him taken away is jarring. that's the intent. what is being forgotten is people are not come together border simply because they want to visit san antonio and see the
riverwalk. they're fleeing violence in central america and seeking refuge. they're having their children taken away because donald trump is worried about a number of families come together border. >> he believes this is a winner. trump is on this basis deberative and rational. he believes he wins on the anti-immigration issue. he definitely believes it or he woulp doing it in this awful way. >> except in this case, he doesn't say he's supporting policy. he blames the democrats for it. he doesn't actually cop out and say th he's really for this because it's face it, with these children, some of them 5 years old sleeping next to grown men in shelters, there is going to be a horrific incident and he will back away from it. >> i'm with you. so he does the thing with daca, blamed the situation on democrats. he still fights the anti-immigrant fight and claims the democrats are for open
border, they have no sense of responsibility. he still plays the racial divide. >> that's right. >> i like the word ethnic better. we're all the same. it is true. >> the humrace, it's true into we're ethnic lig different. >> this is his core strategy, divide and conquer. whatve found, we recent did research on this. we said okay, we know what their playbook is. republicans are running hundreds of anti-immigrant ads the country. is there some sort of pop u lich that calls out that kind of race baiting and can win in we found it does. people understand that he's trying to pit struggling families against each other and picking their pockets. thatwhat's happening. > eric trumpaidould westchester magazine, why he did there is beyond me, his father's lifestyle has sboim exponentially worse the minute he decided to run for
president." his dad didn't need to do this but he was frustrated with where the country was going. the comments prompted a swift response on twitter. former michigan congressman, the craggy john ding did, a great man who in retirement developed an aserb bik twitter presence tweeted buddy, imagine how the rest of us feel. that is so john dingell. >> the thing to remember is the audience to whom eric trump was speaking is westchester magazine. this is tony suburban new yorkers. and so the idea of public service to people of that sort of resources probably like oh, i would hate to have to do that, as well. he was making the case imagine how difficult it must be. >> he flies back and forth to mar-a-lago on government planes. >> the internet exists that everyone was going to see this photo op. there's mo mention of house wonderful it is to serve our country. and that is deplorable. >> the roundtable is sticking with us.
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staten island. go ahead. >>dent trump has been reeling at the mueller investigation for months and seized upon this number, $17 million is the cost of the investigation itself. the interesting thing about that number is, however, each trip to mar-a-lago that he takes, judicial watch says costs $1 million. he's been down there 17 times. he's spent more money traveling to mar-a-lago than the mueller investigation cost. >> keep the investigation going, keep him in d.c. heather mcgee, susan del%io, and phillip bump. >> the legacy of robert ken 2k50i years later. we'll be joined by the late senator's daughter kerry kennedy. she's great. stick around for kerry kennedy.t -and we welce back gary, who's already won three cars, two motorcycles, a boat, and an r.v. i would not want to pay that insurance bill. [ ding ] -oh, i have progressive, so i just bundled everything with my home insurance. saved me a ton of money. -love you, gary! -you don't have to buzz in. it's not a question, gary.
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come back to "hardball." that was bobby kennedy speaking at the ambassar hotel in los angeles after winning the california democratic primary 50 years ago. moments later he was assassinated. i'm joined by kerry kennedy, bobby's daughter and author of "robert f. kennedy, ripples of hope." i don't -- i have a general question. what do you think the country ought to hear from you about your dad? >> well, you know, when daddy ran for id he peace and justice and compassion towards those who is suffer. that's what the united states should stand for and that's what i do if i'm elected president of the united states. try and imagine a presidential candidate saying peace and justice and compassion towards those who suffer. but that's what we need in our country today. we need to he the divisions and come together. we need to address the mass incarceration. we have to show compassion for
those daca students. we have to you know, work on indigenous rights and address the issues on standing rock, et cetera. all of these issues that he spoke about 50 years ago are still plaguing our country today. and we've got stop the gun violence. >> you once talked to me, we were talking about yr legacy and you said it was take the foot off the guy's neck. it's about the way there are people being exploited. talk about that image that you gave to me then. >> you know, i mean, throughout his life, my father was really about stopping the bules a didth. i think what's really important about him, chris, is his moral imagination, his ability to put himself into the shoes of the opposite person, also especially whether he saw that person as his enemy. that's what saved us from
nuclear annihilation during the cuban missile crisis his ability to see through cruise chef's war-like palliver and know crew chef was facing his own industalomplex that was him to war. that's also what allowed my father to talk to a crowd after martin luther king died, some of whom came with bicycle chains and molotov cocktails ready to riot and to say to that crowd for those of you who are angry, i can say i know that feeling. imagine a politician standing tot and saying i understand your feelings. incredible. but he -- because ofbi share his compassion and to -- and to say we need to come
together as a country, that's why indianapolis didn't burn that night when 125 other cities it across our country did. >>l hidaddy. everybody else thinks of him as robert or robert f. kennedy. do you have a memory of him as your daddy? you were so young. meries ofim but my favorite memory is when we used to have battles. i have seven brothers and three sisters. we had lots of battles as children. and one time i was in a bat with my brother michael. he was playing the americans and i was the doomed germans playing world war ii and he threw a magnolia pod at me and it hit me in the head and i went running up to mfather's officend he said wou go get michael. i thought justice will be done. and in came mnd daddy said michael, now you be quiet and kerry, you tell what
happened. i told the whole saga. this hen he said kerry, you be quiet and mike tells what happened. that was hard andirritating. t you know, the truth came out. and i think he, you know, he believed that we have to have a system of justice in our country that everybody believes in. he believed that we all have to work on peace, not just something to. >> i remember digging up when i was researching your dad whether he he was a kid, a kid, he us tu s thas not fair,dad. he wass fhtg for fairness when he was a kid. then he was at your daddy. thank you for that personal memory. we'll be joined tomorrow night by singer and civil rights advocate harry bellefonte. let me finish tonight with trump watch. you're watching "hardball." once there was an organism so small
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5th, 2018. great leaders united t people. bad leaders divide them. the american supreme faced a historic divide, we know it, we'velive and no one denies it. and while we are divided on sunday mornings racially attending different churches we are united on sunday afternoons. we cheer at the sams. we cheer the same players. we know real joy when they perform. victory as jack kennce said has 100 fathers. why we have to ask ourselves is donald trump trying to tear this countr apart on a day when we cheer together?
when we root for the home team and all players? when we truly become a unified crowd backing in athletic excitement. we've heard the term pal fo when yo a matter and try to exploit it politically. donald trump has now taken p otll. itself and made it into ni workr. president. couldn't have done it without you. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. all in with chris hayes starts right, rightow. tonight on "all in." >> i know mr. manafort, i haven't spoken to him in a long time. >> the man who ran donald trump's campaign accused of witness tampering. > that's what he said. that's what i said. >> tonight, new details on what the special counsel's alleging. and why it could have major implications for president trump. plus, why the trump tm is preparing for a app fight with robert muelle then. >> is it absolutely engineers to