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their first meeting will be one on one, set to begin at 9:00 eastern time tonight and it all comes just days after tense meetings with america's closest allies. good morning, everyone, it's monday, june 11th. we're in washington this morning. with us here, we have author and nbc news presidential historian, michael besh las. political reporter for the washington post and moderator of "washington week" on pbs and msnbc political analyst robert costa. >> msnbc political analyst, eugene robinson and host of k.c. d.c. on msnbc kasie hunt is here with us as well. former chief of staff of the cia and department of defense now nbc news national security analyst jeremy bash is with us. also former nato supreme allied commander now the dean of the school of law and diplomacy at
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tufts university, retired four star navy admiral james stavridis. >> admiral stavridis, we'll go to you. this weekend certainly if you care about america's place in the world had to be one of the most concerning certainly i'll just say the most depressing in donald trump's year and a half in office. i must say that at least for me my worst expectations were actually met this weekend at the g7 meetings. what's the impact on america and the world? >> i share your concern. and, you know, if you're getting ready in a schoolyard to face a bully, which is kim jong-un, you would think you would want to kind of gather your friends around you. here was a perfect setup. walk into a summit meeting with the largest economies in the world, all u.s. allies. why not come out of that with a
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strong sense of community to go face this awful dictator in singapore? so it fails the pragmatic test. and, joe, even worse, kind of the tail end of the whole thing, he goes after nato as a former supreme allied commander. i kind of pick up on that. and i'll tell you, when you so aggressively go after the allies, you drive them away from us. to do it right now at this moment is just bad geopolitics. >> michael, here we are one week after celebrating, remembering what happened, what the united states and what our allies did d day and to see the attacks. again, no strategic purpose for those attacks. in fact, the attacks against trudeau were strangely weirdly
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personal. i don't quite understand what's going on there with donald trump. i don't know if he is threatened by justin trudeau being younger. i have no idea. but it would be one thing if you could say, hey, canada has really been screwing us for 30 years. listen, you could say that about china. >> yep. >> you could say that -- i mean, you talk to business people who say they don't like the tariffs, but china has been screwing us for 30 years economically. you can't say that about canada. you can't say that about germany. you can't say that about our allies. id ask you to put it in perspective -- >> there is none, is there? >> i can't think of a president who has done something like this. and the problem here is a couple of things. one is we know donald trump has a temper and reacts in emotional ways that may not be in our american national interest. number two, despite what he says, he hasn't been in
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diplomacy. richard nixon went to china in '7 he had been doing that diplomacy for 20 years, ronald reagan for 15 years. and the other thing is with trump you always have to keep in mind whatever relationship with or orientation he has sort of toward russia, wheth that is a shadow and an overlay and part of his motive in trying to wreck this alliance. >> still a mystery. >> and what he may do in singapore tonight. >> trying to wreck this alliance. and you have donald trump trying to get vladimir putin and russia into the g7, trying to make it a g8, which makes no sense at all. they invieded crimea, which donald trump defended the invasion this weekend. you have him now going and meeting kim jong-un and basically rolling out the red carpet for kim jong-un. defending vladimir putin, attacking canada, france,
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germany, britain. and i just say the question that hangs over all of this in this town is where the hell are the republicans? mitch mcconnell, and we will get to it, saying this is the high water mark for conservatism. that's a vile statement. >> it seems he's only consistent on russia and also on kim jong-un, if you look at the president over the course of his first career in office. let's take you through how president trump handled things at the g7 summit. early on in the summit, the president signals that the other six members of the group needed the u.s. and not the other way around. trump left late for the summit on friday, landing an hour behind schedule. when asked why he was late, one white house official told nbc news, quote, he's the president. there's a lot on his plate and he was delayed. he again showed up late to a session the next day. this time 20 minutes late for a breakfast discussion on gender equality. but before he left the summit early for singapore, he chose to
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praise his fellow g7 leaders. >> i would say that the level of relationship is a ten. we have a great relationship. angela and emmanuel and justin, i would say the relationship is a ten. >> but before his departure, president trump took to twitter to criticize canadian prime minister justin trudeau over his remarks on a joint communication between the g7 members. based on justin's false statements at his news conference and the fact that canada is charging massive tariffs to our u.s. farmers, workers and companies, i have instructed our u.s. reps not to endorse the communique as we look at tariffs on automobiles and flooding the u.s. market. trump continued, p.m. justin trudeau of canada acted so meek and mild during our g7 meetings only to give a news conference after i left saying that u.s. tariffs were kind of insulting and he will not be pushed
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around. very dishonest and weak. here is some of what the president's economic trade advisers said yesterday. >> he really kind of stabbed us in the back. he really actually, you know what, he did a great disservice to the whole g7. he betrayed -- >> trudeau did? >> yes, he did. they were united in the g7. we were very close to making a deal with canada on nafta, bilaterally perhaps, and then we leave and trudeau pulls this sophomoric political stunt for domestic consumption. >> there's a special place in hell for any foreign leader that engages in bad faith diplomacy with president donald j. trump and then tries to stab him in the back on the way out the door. and that's what bad faith justin trudeau did with that stunt
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press conference. that's what weak, dishonest justin trudeau did and that comes right from air force one. >> this is what he actually said. >> yeah. okay. >> happy to announce that we've released a joint communique by all seven countries. we had some strong, firm conversations on trade and specifically american tariffs. i reiterated to president trump that these tariffs threaten to harm industry and workers on both sides of our border. i stand ready to work closely with the president to resolve this dispute swiftly, but as i have consistently said, i will always protect canadian workers and canadian interests. >> those very mild. gene robinson, good god, only donald j. trump could make me defend justin trudeau. he just drives me crazy. he has from the second he has gotten on the world stage with that phony boxing match.
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i could go down the litany of things. >> i'm working on the date. >> i am now going to donald j. trump is going to now make me defend justin trudeau. >> this is weirdly personal. it's not easy for me. it's so weirdly -- >> there is something weird. >> there's something weird. there's something personal. i don't know what it is, but it's deeply personal. he was calling him meek and weak and this and that. >> i know. so he does that when he's feeling insecure. when trump is feeling insecure. and so is it his youth? is it the fact that he's a pretty good-looking guy? >> i have no idea. >> something about him drives trump crazy. but speaking of crazy, think just how insane this is, i mean, how insane and amateurish this whole thing is. first, trump, you know, goes
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berserk about this mild statement that trudeau made. and then his advisers go out using language that's usually reserved for, you know, the stalin -- >> maybe the leader of north korea. >> exactly, right. special place in hell. and there's this idea they voice that trudeau made him look bad. >> no, he didn't. >> a, he didn't and, b, that's like negotiations over the north korean nuclear program are held at a slightly more sophisticated level. do you think the north koreans are going to say, oh, well, just because trudeau went after trump, you know, we're out of here. that's ridiculous. >> that's the thing. trudu didn't go after trump. and in response of this where trudeau doesn't even go after trump, he says i'll defend canada. that's what everybody says. larry kidlow says he stabbed us
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in the back? and then navarro, he betrayed us. there's a special place in hell for somebody saying they're going to defend canada. trude trudeau's remarks were not even tough. why is donald trump acting like a snow flake on the national stage? why is he the ultimate snow flake melting away when justin trudeau gives a blandly canadian response? what's this just does not -- it was not that tough. he was being kind. >> sorry. >> he was eminently reasonable from the perspective of how these sorts of negotiations are typically conducted. typically understand each are under their own set of domestic, political pressures. they try to both come together on shared goals for the international community while respecting the realities for the other leaders. they just absolutely blew
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through that. and i have to say that interview with peter navarro, that's the one thing ird from sources about in particular saying there is a special place in hell for the person who is arguably our closest ally, certainly our closest neighbor. i mean, that's not how we typically talk about -- oftentimes we don't use languages against dictators. >> that's what max was talking about that yesterday. we only use language like that before we're going to war. i can't stop thinking about this interview unless i'm missing something. these are the most hostile comments any u.s. official has made about any u.s. ally ever. this is tougher than the way u.s. presidents talk about leaders like saddam hussein and bashar assad before we bomb them. alex go back. play this justin trudeau clip again. and let's try to sort through this and see what exactly made donald trump melt like a snow
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flake in the middle of the blistering -- like a snow flake in the las vegas sun in august. i don't get this. >> i'm happy to announce that we've released a joint communique by all seven countries. we had some strong, firm conversations on trade and specifically american tariffs. i reiterated to president trump that these tariffs threaten to harm industry and workers on both sides of our border. i stand ready to work closely with the president to resolve this dispute swiftly, but as i have consistently said, i will always protect canadian workers and canadian interests. >> well. >> i don't even -- bob costa, i don't even know what to say. that was one of the politest statements. again, the question is, do you have any insight into why donald
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trump is so weak when it comes to justin trudeau? why he would melt like that on the international stage and cause, well, cause a serious rupture in one of our most important relationships across the globe? >> well, the prime minister had a polite tone. it's worth noting that he is fighting back against u.s. tariffs. he's announced his own countertariffs about 13 billion on u.s. goods. so you see the canadians, not just taking the president's line on trade and accepting where president trump is moving on trade. with regard to mr. navarro and mr. kidlow, they're hard line comments. you can feel the shadow of president trump hovering over them while they're on television. anyone who worked for this president says he is entirely transactional and his ideology is fluid except on trade. trade since the 1980s has animated him and you cannot convince him privately to budge.
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so this trade ideology that is really not shared by anyone right or left inside the halls of the u.s. capital, it's really president trump's own ideology, this is now driving all u.s. policy, especially with regard to our western allies. >> and michael -- >> still doesn't seem right. >>alk about -- we're talking about canada. and we've always heard historians say that america's greatness was assured in part by the fact that we were protected from our enemies by two oceans. >> sure. >> but it's worth noting this morning that we were also blessed with an extraordinary neighbor to the north, and we have the longest, i guess, it's the longest demilitarized border in the world between the united states and canada. >> we sure do at a time people talk about borders, especially donald trump. we don't have a closer ally. this has been for 200 years. this has been a huge strength of america. you know, when we were in 9/11
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and pearl harbor, canada was always there. and god willing always will be. and the thing that really worries me is the emotionalism of this. i totally grant what bob said about donald trump'sling about trade, but those words yesterday did not come, i think, from his abstract views on trade. it's this emotional reaction he has to justin trudeau. maybe it's that justin trudeau goes to g7 and he's the darling of a lot of those other leaders in a way that donald trump is not and that makes his feelings hurt. but the problem is at 8:00 p.m. this evening eastern time, he's going to go in that room one on one with only trs with the leader of north korea, all of our security depends on that. the same thing with our children. all of america. and is he going to have the same emotionalism? >> i want to hear from jeremy and the admiral on this tweet. richard haase tweeted this analysis. the unraveling of the g7 summit
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works in north korea's favor as president trump will not want to bust up two summits in a row lest peoplee he is the problem. increases incentive for kim to up his asks and limit his compromises and for trump to do the opposite. ideal context. jeremy? >> canada, the g7 was an epic foreign policy fail. it was an easy layup missed by the united states. and to go back to something, joe, that you said earlier, this was really vladimir putin's play book. not only would he want to be in the g7 or g8, but actually what he wants more than that is to fracture the west. and that's exactly the outcome of the g7. and so i think the united states goes into this summit with north korea with our traditional alliances fractured. and as noted earlier, if we're going to assure that american national security interest are protected around the world, we're going to need allies.
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>> and admiral stavridis, does vladimir putin have a more pressing strategic goal than the breakup of the nato alliance and the breakup of the g7? if vladimir putin let's say did have something on donald trump and donald trump were to carry out vladimir putin's top geopolitical, strategic goal, would it not look exactly like what happened this weekend? >> it absolutely would, joe. two quick points going back to canada for a minute. we have to remember that we have a trade surplus with canada and also that we have higher tariffs than the canadians do. so you go back to what are the explanations here. now, i'm loathed to comment on justin trudeau's appearance because people stop me in the airport a lot and say, you know, you look a lot like justin
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trudeau. >> you really do. >> so i can understand that frustration that the president may have. but, you know, as the nato commander, i watch canadian troops die in afghanistan. i watched their jets with us in libya, afghanistan, aq, so inexplicable. and then to the summit, i'm just going to take jeremy's point and richard's excellent point and add another thought, which is, it's not just russia. this really plays in favor of china, who is seeking to dominate that region. and by walking us away from our allies, what do you think the japanese and the australians and our pacific allies think when they watch how donald trump treats our european allies? they see where this thing is headed. you almost feel like the talking points got mixed up in terms of be nice to the allies, be stern with north korea. it's kind of like a flip. it's bad economics. it's bad geopolitics. it is going to put us in a
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tougher position going forward than anything else i can think of. our greatest strengths are these alliance systems. >> again, mika. >> admiral, thank you. >> very much appreciate it, admiral. are shameless as the republicans on capitol hill have been, i find it hard to believe that anybody today will come out and defend what donald trump did, attacking canada. peter navarro did and so did kidlow. they work for donald trump. i just wonder whether any republicans will be foolish enough to say, yeah, it was a great idea attacking our closest allies when there's no strategic benefit to it whatsoever. >> joe, do you think any republicans are going to come out on the other side actually? >> that's the bigger question. >> and have a clear and loud voice and say this was nuts. this does not represent what americans believe. >> other than the usual suspects, mccain. >> susan collins. >> and susan collins.
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>> it's still a short list and there are obviously also criticized for, hey, you can say those things. what are you actually going to do about it. one thing that has gone on in the senate, there is real -- come on the republican party does not agree with the policy of this. forget the personality and the dramatics how badly the president personally treated our al. they fundamentally, idealogically disagree with me and are not going to move forward on anything because they don't want to make him angry in an election year. >> i can not speak for what the congress would have done while barack obama was president had he done this. but i will tell you this, and you can mark my words, if bill clinton had done this during the 1990s, i promise you we would have articles of impeachment up immediately. >> yes, yes. >> and they would be -- there would be investigations. every committee would be investigating the connection between -- >> he has desensitized -- >> between russia and the united states, between clinton and the leader of russia.
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it's just, again, this is -- bob costa, this is unprecedented and i cannot believe that now they sit there while donald trump destroys our alliances. >> you have to believe it. when you talk to lawmakers, republicans, they say with the north korea summit happening, they're not going to start peek speaking out against their own president on foreign policy. the most interesting thing is not the scene in can ad it was the scene in beijing last week as we talk about world order, who was in beijing last week? vladimir putin, chinese, russians as the west is fighting amongst each other -- >> accepting a prize, too, from the chinese. >> exactly right. >> that is the play book that jeremy bash and the admiral were both talking about. >> donald trump cannot be doing a greater favor to vladimir putin than what he is doing right now. how fascinating. >> and there is a lot more ahead on "morning joe." we're going to go live to singapore where nbc's andrea mitchell was in the room as
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joining us now from singapore, nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent and host of "andrea mitchell reports." andrea, what did we learn from the secretary of state and his briefing this morning? >> well, secretary of state making it very clear that they are prepared, mika, to offer assurances and security guarantees, unlike any that have ever been offered to north korea, if north korea denuclearizes. they're now talking about
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denuclearizing the entire korean peninsula, which has been north korea's bargaining position. he was asked whether that means the united states is now prepared to withdraw troops, in fact to not fly the b52s and other bombers and submarines that are nuclear capable in the region. and he said he's not going to specific about troop withdrawals or moving any of these assets. he's just saying that they are prepared to offer north korea new security guarantees, unlike any that they've ever had if they give up their nuclear weapons. this is a significant statement going into the summit just taking place today. there have been meetings with the experts on both sides. two meetings today, in fact, led by first of all the ambassador to the philippines and others on the north korean side. interesting his counterpart on the north korean side is the vice foreign minister, the same vice foreign minister who insulted mike pence which led,
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of course to the letter from the president two weeks ago canceling this and then, of course, resuming it once north korea showed they really wanted the flexibility. but the backdrop to all of this i have to say is the disastrous g7 summit which white house officials were saying was a show of strength by the president, but it's also certainly a show of first of all the fact that they are not getting along with any of their european allies. so he was asked about that as well and asked about, of course, the u.s. trade adviser navarro saying there's a special place in hell for p.r. trudeau. there are always irritants in the relationship, but it's very clear that mike pompeo, america's top diplomat is very uncomfortable about what happened at the g7 summit and was unprepared to say so. >> those comments were so over the top. >> yes. well, they were over the top. >> that's not even the way to
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describe it. it really was the language of war. >> the thing is what's unbelievable is that they again had a good press conference with donald trump before he left, before he flew out. so, my relationship is a 10. my relationship is a 10. and then he plunges the u.s./canadian relationship literally into its low point. >> yeah. >> really? in a long, long, long, long, long time. how do you get to logger heads with canada? it's a really, really hard thing to do. >> should we be a little nervous? >> as i was watching remarks and saw justin trudeau's comments, i really -- i literally thought to myself, the guys at south park couldn't even imagine this sort of blame canada scenario. >> i'm sorry. it would just -- it was so kind of canadian. >> the problem here, gene, is
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that as we get to -- as we turn now to north korea, donald trump and i will say it again, i always thought that barack obama was far too desperate for an iran deal and i think it was a horrific deal. i do. it doesn't make sense for us to get out of it right now, but at e me i thought he was too desperate. i think now donald trump is desperate for a deal. >> uh-huh. >> it's got to look good for him. he could withdraw u.s. troops from the korean peninsula. >> he could. >> and he would be playing right into china and putin's hands. >> they would just aapplaud. >> look at the way these two summits are interconnected in this sense. there will come a time -- assuming this northea process continues. there will come a time when the united states wants to have its european allies and g7 countries join in imposing sanctions, threatening sanctions or ramping up pressure. so, he has now ticked them off to the extent that they're not going to just kind of do that,
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you know, out of friendship. and with his trade policies, he actually in a way is making it moficu f the u.s. to have leverage to compel that sort of compliance by the fact that we're the reserve currency and the biggest economy and everything like that. these trade policies are making, you know, potentially people turn away from the dollar, turn away from the u.s. financial system in a way they haven't before. >> so it seems like the phrase leader of the free world might be obsolete based on what we saw. >> absolutely. jeremy bash, jump in. on that note and also if you can't get along with the most polite nation in the world really at the on set of the most important nuclear negotiation and the first summit with north korea, i don't think the scene could be set in a more worse and dangerous way to have this president walking into that meeting one on one. >> yeah, it calls into question
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whether or not we're going to keep our word. you heard secretary pompeo talk about the need to build up trust. i know from pompeo's presentation and want to know if the others on the panel think this. he seemed to walk back a cpl things that trump put out there. first he basically said we're going to do complete, ir fiable denuclearization before we relieve any of the sanctions. that's not exactly the tone that the president had laid out there. the president basically said i want to get rid of maximum pressure. and the second thing is he made clear that what north korea seeks, which is the declaration of peace, a peace treaty, that won't come until we get what we need on the nuclearization front, denuclearization front. again, i think we could see tonight, you know, 8:00 east coast time a declaration of peace, a statement, something coming out of donald trump's mouth that talks about peace. that's exactly what the north koreas want out of this. >> jeremy bash, thank you very much. we'll see you tomorrow morning on set following tonight's historic summit.
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coming up, mitch mcconnell couldn't be happier how conservative values have fair under president trump. we'll break that down. >> 20 indictments, largest debt spike, biggest spending bill ever, payoff to a porn star, yeah. high water mark, mitch. good job, buddy. >> we'll be right back. do not mistake serenity for weakness. do not misjudge quiet tranquility for the power of 335 turbo-charged horses. the lincoln mkx, more horsepower than the lexus rx350. and a quiet interior from which to admire them. for a limited time, get 0% apr on the lincoln mkx plus get $1,000 bonus cash.
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senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is touting the return of conservative values under president trump. here is what he said during a speech to the national faith and freedom coalition conference for voters of faith in washington on friday. >> in my view, the last 16 months have been the singest best period for conservatives as i came to washington as ralph indicated in 1985. this is not hyperbole. this is not spend. this is not hyperbole. this is a fact. >> all right. so there's a fact. bob costa, let's go through the litany. you have the biggest spending bill in the history of america. massive increases in the deficit.
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the most reckless spending spree in american history i think this past year. he talked about conservative values in a faith meeting, paying off a porn star,etting busted with a playboy bunny. you could talk about all the racism after post-charlottesville, defending white supremacists. trying to ban 1.5 billion people from coming into this country based on their faith based on his campaign promise. >> did you get the porn star? >> yeah, i did. the litany goes on and on and on and then a left wing trade war and the alliances that held this country together and made us the strongest country on the planet for 50 years. explain to me on what planet is donald trump's presidency been
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the high water mark for conservatism? >> many traditional conservatives walked away from the republican party. george will for one. a lot of people naming that same list in joe scarborough walking away from the party. i didn't want to bring you up. >> yeah. >> what's interesting is when you talk to your former colleagues and talk to traditional colleagues, they site the tax bill and the courts as the reason they're supporting president trump, but they do not want to really talk about the muslim ban. they don't want to talk about the trade war. and so they're really with mcconnell, the leader, you see him trying to separate the courts and the tax bill and some policies from the president's conduct and other aspects of the president's agenda. >> kasie, though, i guess what also is so maddening is that they are scared to death to say anything negative about donald trump publicly, but privately they all trash him.
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and mitch mcconnell, like, mitch mcconnell, the audacity to say that in front of this faith and freedom group when mitch mcconnell doesn't believe that. nobody on capitol hill thinks he believes that. again, the cowardness shown across the hill from republicans is really pretty staggering in the face of racism and the face of, again, payoffs to porn stars, lying about payoffs to porn stars, playboy bunnies, lying about payoffs to playboy bunnies. the racism in charlottesville. the retweeting of fascist videos out of britain. i mean, literally, calling hispanics -- >> the nastiness. >> calls hispanics breeders. by our friends at the faith workshop this weekend, what do you think of hispanics being
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called breeders, mexicans being called racists? the most unchrist like. >> most of that is not christian. >> the most unchrist-like behavior in the white house based on the attacks of other people. if you judge jesus by his words and the be attitudes the sermon on the mount, matthew 25. i could go on and on. anybody that's read the bible and actually read the red words in their bible, understand that this isn't even me criticizing donald trump or questioning his faith. they don't know what his faith is. i know he said that he doesn't need god's forgiveness, which undercuts the central premise of christianity for 2000 years. but mitch mcconnell says that donald trump is -- this is a high water mark in conservatism
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and mitch mcconnell is an honorable man. tell us what is going on. >> i'm not sure blessed are the meek is a phrase donald trump lives by. mitch mcconnell said this is the best moment for conservatives, that includes the end of the cold war, the eventual fall of the berlin wall. i find that to be a pretty remarkable statement on those grounds. mitch mcconnell's view of the world is he will be longer than president trump will be here. the work he is doing now, they are stacking the courts. donald trump has put more jungs on the circuit courts in the first fewer than two years, first two years of his term than the presidents that preceded him. and frankly those actions are going to have consequences that will last and shape our country for much longer than even if trump were in office for eight years. >> you said why did he say that? who is he speaking to there? the conservative voter. republicans across the board are nervous about the voters at that
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conference. that's a stoke the turnout speech. >> where in the bible does it say blessed are they who separate parents from their children at the boarder? where is that a christian value? where in the bible does it say that? what is the responsibility of those conservatives of faith to talk back to mitch mcconnell and say, you know, really? this? >> they are compromising -- >> the problem here is that mitch mcconnell would not be saying that to that group if that's not exactly what they wanted to hear, which raises a much more serious problem. >> it does. it does. >> the evangelical community lifted trump in the primaries and in the generals. >> it's quite astounding. >> i can think of more words on
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astounding. >> i can, too, i can't say that on television. i won't use those other words. really these are people -- i believed that a lot of these people genuinely people of faith might have disagreed on political issues, might have disagreed on a lot of other things, but i believe they believed what they said they believed. and it's hard for me to think that now. >> that's called into question that's for sure. still ahead this morning, we'll go back live to singapore. nbc news bill kneely joins us for his latest reporting there. plus the very emotional moment from last night's tony awards. and we're not talking about robert denarrow, that's whatnot to do. >> don't do that. >> "morning joe" is back in a moment. never thought i'd see one in real life. [ dinosaur screeches ] the park is in the past. run! we're not on an island anymore. there is a town five miles from here. am i dead? not yet, kid. change was inevitable
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joining us live from sentosa island in singapore, nbc news chief global correspondent bill neely. bill, set the scene for us. >> reporter: yeah, good morning, mika. well, the stage is set here on
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sentosa island for the summit tomorrow morning, but it's quite clear the script is still being written. the u.s. and north korean delegations have been meeting today, twice one morning session, meeting today. mike pompeo saying it's moving quite quickly but it looks like those discussions may still be going on. and they're covering everything from the choreography of this meeting, the hand shake, will it be a one-on-one meeting with two translators, what happens after that, how long does it last for, everything from the choreography to the communique at the end. and, again, from what mike pompeo was saying, it's quite clear they don't have a final agreement. pompeo saying tomorrow we'll get the clearest indication if kim jong-un accepts our vision of the complete denuclearization of the korean peninsula. and, again, interesting, mike pompeo using the words north korea has been using for a long time, denuclearize of the korean
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peninsula and as andrea mitchell was explaining earlier on, he did talk about security assurances that the u.s. was prepared to give north korea though he didn't go into detail. he didn't say if it meant reduction of truth in south korea, if it meant no flying nuclear-armed bombers or having submarines close to the korean shore. interestingly, kim jong-un in his hotel hasn't been seen all day. north korea's media are preparing their people for changes, they're talking about a new era and a new agreement in the works with the united states so in north korea they're preparing for this. mike pompeo says president trump is prepared and he's been in his hotel, that's where he'll stay until this summit tomorrow morning. >> nbc's bill neely, thank you very much. >> so, bob, let's talk the politics of this. how does this impact the
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republican party? how does it impact the midterms? >> there's going to be a diplomatic spotlight given to any kind of agreement and that will be important for all of us as we move forward but there is the political scrutiny which could be under a difference lens because if voters interpret a deal, even if a deal isn't concrete or seen by both parties as something verifiable, if it's politically seen as a deal that is a success for president trump, you could see republicans despite what happened at the g7, despite the russia investigation rally behind the president and that's why you see a lot of reluctance among gop lawmakers in the past few days to take a strong stand against the president because they think the president could sell whatever happens in singapore as a success around they know he has a full grip on their own party. >> doing a deal with the north koreans, dangerous bidding. ask bill clinton, ask jimmy carter who went over there and
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did his best. ask -- >> you know what will happen. we've seen this movie before. the north koreans will drag everything out. they will extract the maximum up front and at some point probably just say, you know, later for you guys. but that's down the road and i'm certain unless this completely blows up donald trump will present this as a great victory. >> we're dealing with the day trader. >> exactly. >> he wants big headlines and, again, it's the exact opposite of how you treat diplomatic situations like this. >> yes. the question is -- and to the political question, the shelf life of anything that donald trump does in the sense that he moves so fast that there could be a great sort of afterglow
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from this meeting that only lasts until the next trump eruption on something else and who knows what that will be so you have to take that with a grain of salt. what is lasting when it comes to donald trump is hard to figure. >> gene robinson and robert costa, thank you both. still ahead, he got there late and left early. president trump reportedly didn't want to go to the g7 summit. why did he? aides pressed him to attend, apparently. the "new york times" peter baker joins us with this latest reporting. we'll also bring in editor of the "atlantic" magazine jeffrey goldberg. plus, in 2016, michigan's eighth congressional district helped pave the way to donald trump's presidency. this november, that same district could help democrats win back the house. nbc news national political reporter heidi przybyla will have that story. "morning joe" is coming right back. how do you win at business?
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always protect canadian workers and canadian interests. >> okay, that -- >> good god. what is going on? >> shocking! >> so rude! >> the canadians! so typically canadian! god! >> what's wrong with them? do they not know how to act on the world stage? >> so when you say "what's that aboot" is that canadian or minnesota? people up north are so rude. >> yeah. thank god for people in the trump administration. they know how to stand up to this. >> yeah, watch this. >> he really kind of stabbed us in the back. he really actually -- he did a great disservice to the whole g7. he betrayed -- >> trudeau did? >> yes, he did. because they were united in the g7. they had this bilateral meeting, we were close to making a deal
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with nafta bilaterally and we leave and true tdeau pull this sophomoric polstunt. >> there's a special place in hell for any foreign leader that engages in bad faith diplomacy with p donald j. trump and then tries to stab him in the back on the way out the door and that's what bad faith justin trudeau did with that stunt press conference. that'shat weak, dishonest, justin trudeau did and that comes right from air force one. >> stop. that's bad. >> anyway, we have with us -- to sort through what these canadians, again, have done. >> damn canadians. >> if you've ever seen "south park" or john candy in "canadian bacon" you understand what these canadians have coming to them. in washington, we have the host of kasie d.c., kasie hunt, peter
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baker, jeffrey goldberg, also senior adviser at the center for strategic and international studies, juan zarate, a senior national security analyst for nbc news and msnbc. so now jeffrey that we have gone from act one at 6:00 was horror, shock, and act two now we're trying to laugh a little bit about it. >> act three is building the wall between canada and the united states which will be a very expensive wall. very, very long. >> it will be a beautiful wall. and let me tell you something -- >> with maple syrup taps in the wall. >> we'll make the canadians pay for it. but there will be taps in the wall and molson beer will flow unabated? >> and maple syrup. >> is molson beer canadian? >> molson is canadian. >> i think it is. >> we're looking at peter. >> so i guess what is so surprising is you have justin
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trudeau's very measured remarks. >> even by canadian standards. >> even by canadian standards, polite by canadian standards and then you have navarro and, my god other administration officials coming out, kudlow coming out and -- stabbed in the back? a special place in hell? there was nothing in those comments so what is it about trudeau? we've been trying to figure this out. what is it about trudeau that turns donald trump into the largest snowflake to ever fall. >> this is the melting canadian snow? >> to the ground of an -- i'm serious. if donald trump was offended by that then he redefines the term "snowflake." >> remember two things. some of this is not that hard. obama very close to justin trudeau. justin trudeau, global progressive icon. not that hard to understand why there would be struck dhutural resentment on the part of donald
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trump. number two, this is a consistent aspect of donald trump's foreign policy thinking. allies can't be trusted. all of our allies are somehow or other -- >> but vladimir putin can? >> well, you know. >> kim jong-uncan? >> adversaries are given the benefit of the doubt and we'll find out our time tonight, we'll be listening to donald trump describe the leader of north korea which is the most murderous regime on the face of the planet. we're probably going to be listening to him describe the leader of north korea in terms or gentle than the terms he used to describe the leader of canada. >> he's never criticid vladimir putin but he's attacked angela merkel. he's attacked justin trudeau. >> and fily members. >> she got her revenge with that photograph. >> she did. by the way, if only, if only norman rockwell were still alive today that would be -- >> that's almost seine sans painting level photograph. german state photographer should get a prize. >> i think he will.
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or she will. so i'm just wondering, though, jeffrey, is donald trump -- and i mean this seriously, is he a mad genius? is he a mad political genius picking fights that do great damage to america's national security but at the same time p hitting the conservative base right where they live, going against progressive europe, going against progressive can a canada. >> maybe there's such a mad genius quality that he's trying to help trudeau because this is making the canadian prime minister tremendously popular and this is good for donald trump's base. this is in some weird pro wrestling way a win win for the two parties involved. is there a kind of genius behind this? >> politically. >> the problem with the crazy nixon approach to foreign policy, you know, my leader is crazy, i don't know what he'll do, you better give in, the problem is there has to be a plan behind it and there can't
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be an element of actual craziness in the operation of that plan and so this is working without a net here and the consequences are too grave for the risk that he's taking in terms of breaking apart the post-world war ii international western alliance. >> >> this is the second president in a row many foreign policy critics have gone after for not having an overarching international fame. of course there is no compare son between barack obama and donald trump in most aspects but we quietly heard critiques. i know jeffrey had the most important intervienterview of b obama's foreign policy in the second term. but what you quietly heard from a a lot of barack obama's international critics was there was no overarching thing. it was just as he famously said
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don't do stupid stuff. now we have donald trump who has turned it in "spinal tap" parlance to 11. >> there was more wwf than wto. >> i don't know how long it took youo -- >> that was very good. >> that was completely spontaneous, by the way. >> winning. >> it was worth it. save that. use that. >> the truth is this is his doctrine. his doctrine is we have been shafted the. united states has been shafted for years whether it be trade, security, friends, foes, doesn't matter. his definition of america first is they have cheated us and i and only i alone to use his phrase can do something about it. the specific facts and substance of the dispute doesn't matter so much as this idea that i'm going to stand up for us in a way that barack obama didn't. and it does play to a certain part of the american audience looking for a champion. if you watch his supporters
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yesterday what they were saying is finally somebody is standing up. okay, canadians weren't necessarily high on the list for a lot of pple but it is the idea that we are standing up. what is the other possible explanation? he feels going into this meeting with kim jong-un tha he needs to demonstrate strength, right? their theory of the case is is we're showing we are strong and that we'll intimidate kim into being more deferential to us. other people would say he's shown weakness because he's cast aside allies but i think the theory was we're showing strength. >> so juan the central premise of donald trump's foreign policy, of his trade policy is that the united states are suckers. that we've taken part in the international order since 1945. that his time and time again he has hurt america. we have steve rattner on and he's a bit of a chartologist. i have become a chartologist
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myself. >> where's your white board? >> he's got it right here. >> justice peter worked on withwf -- i worked on this chart. mika will tell you, i was up all night doing it. >> yeah. >> this was america's gdp post-1945. this camera right here. guys, tell me what camera, i'm versatile. we'll go to this one. here's my white board around this is something remarkable about this chart and this reality. if you actually go -- and i would invite viewers at home to do this -- look at the gdp of the g7 nations. look at the gdp of china. look at the gdp of everybody across the globe. this is not just from 1945 to 1973. this is from 1973 to 2018. that unlike any other country on the planet, america's gdp even
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through 2008 has continued to go upward. it is the most breathtaking comparison of our economy versus britain's economy, canada's economy, even china's economy versus japan's economy. there is no other country who has benefitted more since 1945. anybody looking at this chart, looking at the real numbers would look at america and go, oh, my god, they have played us for suckers since 1945. >> well, i think the challenge here is president trump has peter was saying sees friends and enemies, you saw his tweet last night, he sees them alike. they've been hammering the united states in terms of trade policy, not in terms of those numbers, those numbers don't reflect donald trump's world view on trade and foreign policy. it has to do with the hard
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traditional industries, manufacturing, steel, aluminum. >> and mining. donald trump is obsessed on 1850 technologies. the can chinese are working on ai, they're worried about 2050. >> you're identifying the problem with this which is you have a major challenge from china in terms of the economy, 5g technology, ai, quantum computing and we need our allies, we need the west to align in terms of trade for all the reasons you've described but also because there are structural challenges from china as an alternative to the u.s. western-based model. admiral stavridis was talking about this point. that's an important strategic element being missed here. our friends and enemies aren't alike and we're missing the point and the trump
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administration is missing the opportunity to move from tactical to strategic leverage on these trade issues. >> and richard haass tweeted this alis. the veling of the g7 summit works in north korea's favor as donald trump will not want to bust up two smits in a row lest people conclude he is the problem. increases incentive for kim to up his asks and limited his compromises and for trump to do the opposite. hardly the ideal context. >> and jeffrey. this is actually exactly what donald trump would want. he would want to deal with the north koreans that would end with the denuclearization of north korea and the removal of all u.s. troops on the -- from the korean peninsula. he's talked about it. >> well richard might be right but he's doing the thing we dual which is analyzing donald trump's actions through the prism of how diplomacy and power usually work.
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donald trump might be impervious to that kind of analysis. in any case, you know, donald trump hear you could think of him as a very sort of -- in the bandwidth of normal presidential behavior. all presidents want big deals. obama wanted the iran deal. jimmy carter wanted a middle east peace deal as did bill clinton and barack obama wants his big deal so he's already going into this looking for a success. the danger of any of these situations is that you have a president walking into the car dealership saying i'm not leaving here without a car and the car dealer says great, we can make that happen for you. so already structurally this is -- kim has won, north korea has won this before it started. he's getting recognition by the president of the united states. >> what surprised me the most about donald trump -- and i will admit that i have been blindsided on this front, i always accused him of being a
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democrat, of being a liberal, but i said in part because this is what he told mika very early on in the campaign, i'm going to win the republican nomination and thenove so quickly to the middle it will drive everybody crazy. what surprised me is he continues to see the world through this he continues to see the world through this very small prism, that is the 33% of the most hard core populist republican base and it seem this is weekend -- >> to drive his behavior as well as his policies. >> is he expanding that33% to 40%? to 44%? >> i think that is a question he could start to answer here at this summit. to jeffrey goldberg's point, if he is able to come back with something he can sell -- and bob costa touched on this earlier -- that he can sell to the american people, they'll be willing to give him credit. some of this stuff we're talking about everyday kind of aside. and i think the major question
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here and juan zarate, i'm interested in your perspective on this, the president said he's going to be able to tell within a few minutes whether or not kim jong-un is willing to deal and he is putting all of his hopes and dreams on that one moment and that is completely different what we've seen in the past. >>it's a hyperpersonalized form of diplomacy. president obama was criticized for not being personal enough with his relationships, this in some ways is the exact opposite, hyperpersonalized and the challenge here is is the president willing to walk away? he's tried to demonstrate he's o big of a deal too big for him to walk away, can the united states pressure with its maximum pressure campaign isolation or is the summit a window for the north korean regime to begin its legitimacy? we know he's been invited to
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russia. we know bashar al assad will visit north korea. is this suddenly -- is this moment an opening for north korea regardless of what happens at the negotiating table so i think this is a critical moment where we determine whether or not not only can donald trump deliver on a big deal but can we put a process in place that doesn't let north korea out of the box too soon and we get what we need whether it's a year-long process or even longer to actually verify whatever denuclearization plan is. >> we're talking about a guy who says my instincts are great, i'll know the first minute i'm there. let's step back a second and realize this is the same guy who hired steve bannon. who hired rex tillerson, who hired michael flynn, who hired paul manafort, who hired mcmaster, who hired all these people that he then turned around and fired and many of
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them now indicted. papadopoulos indicted and is pleaing, flynn indicted, charged, pled guilty. manafort more charges being piled on day by day. this is not a guy who should be trusting his gut instinct because the last year and a half have shown how bad his gut instinct is. >> and you've seen what a relationship with donaltrump oks likend you've named a few of them. the relationships are very short lived and you could take this from his concept of america first to a lot of people are now calling it america alone to peter baker now i would think it almost looks like trump alone and you have people mistaking trump -- look like a freudian slip -- as a dictator. and he acts like one. in terms of his inner personal relations on the world stage it's nothing about america. >> to your point and juan's
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point, he walks into the summit in singapore more isolated and kim jong-un walks in less isolated. and the strike if you were a negotiator walking in thinking what am i going to get out of this, what are the experiences you've seen? one is that the g7 negotiators sat down and crafted the communique and dealt with trump's objections, trump didn't want this phrase in, he didn't want that phrase in, fine, we can make it work. and then the second it's done, boom, he pulls the rug out from under. same thing happened on the iran discussions, right? brian hook from the state department went to iran and said what can we do, we'll put more pressure on iran, then suddenly the president says i don't think this is good enough. so if you're north korea the only person who matters is donald trump because anybody else as a negotiator can't close the deal and the only person thatter so that is why you're starting this process at
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the top rather than the bottom. because you might as well get straight to the decision maker because nobody else matters. >> jeffrey, does this weekend matter? are we overanalyzing what happened in canada or was it as bad as we think it was. >> i think it's without precedent. this is not the way friends talk about friends in public. really not the same way people talk in private. the truth is that canadian/u.s. relationship has been one of the miracles of international relations. we have a 3,000 mile peaceful open border with this country. they're a stable democracy, we're a stable democracy, at least we were for a long time. and to upend that for personal pique or whatever is motivating this or the assumption that i'm going to get a slightly better trade deal with this country, that's unprecedented and
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dangerous and it's a signal to our other allies, south korea, je japan, australia, that our president does not believe in stability. and that's important. >> that's for sure. juan zarate, thank you for being on this morning. good to have you. each else, stay with us. still ahead on "morning joe," an nbc news exclusive. we're learning more about north korea's reclusive leader from someone who knew him. what kim jong-un's former teacher is saying about the dictator today. and som politics here at home. it could be the road map for democrats to take back the house. nbc's heidi przybyla is just back from michigan with new reporting on one key battleground. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. ♪ it can grow out of control, disrupting business and taking on a life of its own.
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love ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> what a remarkable, remarkable moment at last night's tony awards, the parkland students performing. certainly the highlight of that evening. >> it was incredible. >> the low light of the evening brought to you by robert de niro and we will not actually play that clip even with the seven-second delay. >> the kids again amazing and above it all. >> kids were remarkable. steve schmidt said this about the robert de niro moment. he said "the greatest actor of his generation cld have said something important, he could have defended liberal democracy or freedom of speech and expression. he could have stood for decency. instead he strengthened trump's
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hand by mirroring the debasement of our culture, be better." which, of course, kasie, that brings to light the whole michelle obama idea when the go low, we go high. people have mistaken that for weakness. i suppose donald trump would mist jesus saying "blessed are the meek" as a sign of weakness but it's just saying you have to be better. >> like kids at parkland. >> and it's people that applauded de niro's statement last night don understand tt ey are helping donald trump's reelection every time they do something like that, they don't understand. >> if your goal as robert de niro's goal is to take down the president, it's the wrong way to do it. you're playing into his hands. >> you'll get him reelected? >> talking about being better. those kids, wow, the things they
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have been through. i wouldn't watch that. >> it's hard not to get chills. so michigan is one of several battlegrounds being targeted by democrats in the midterm elections, particularly michigan's eighth congressional district, a mix of suburban and rural areas just northwest of detroit that helped pave trump's path to victo in the sta and it could be the road map to drive democrats' win in the house. nbc news national political reporter heidi przybyla joins with the latest on that. what did you find out? >> wave or no wave, that's the big question we're debating. so i decided to go out to one of the districts that can tell us the answer to that question. these are not the top ten most competitive districts. these are not the hillary districts where republicans are represented. these are where republicans should have an advantage. the lean republican districts where these republicans are not used to having a race but in this case they do. take a look.
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f we win michigan -- >> starting to get returns from michigan. >> michigan is leaning toward donald trump. >> michigan. >> michigan. >> michigan. >> donald trump has won michigan. >> in 2016, the midwest turned away from democrats. >> they won't be taking our jobs any longer. >> reporter: swayed by a populist message. >> we'll end up having great health care. >> i'm alyssa. >> reporter: now recruits like alyssa slotkin will return the house back to democrats. she grew up in her family dairy farm outside detroit. after ten years as a cia operative, three tours in iraq and at the pentagon she's back to challenge two-term incumbent mike bishop in what's been a safe gop district. >> the tenor and tone of politics feels fundamentally unbecoming of the country that i served in. >> we did it. >> reporter: like conor lamb in pennsylvania, slotkin is a prototype for midwestern recruits in red districts.
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the template -- publiice backgrounds. >> health care is the real reason i ultimately got into this race. >> reporter: and pocketbook issues. >> are your health care bills higher or lower than a year and a half ago? >> reporter: moving attention to trump' promises. >> you're going to have such great health care at a tiny fraction of the cost. >> reporter: over breakfast at this cafe, health care is the talk. >> whether or not our representative is going to truly represent the concerns of the voters and the citizens or of big pharma. >> reporter: slot kin has criticized bishop for donations from opioid manufacturers and blames bishop for michigan's shield law against pharmaceutical companies. >> if anybody ever came to me and said i'm giving you this for that i would not only tell them that that's illegal but i would report them for having done that. >> reporter: bishop is a formidable opponent. >> i was born and raised here. >> reporter: hitting slotkin for only recently moving back to the district. >> i support mike bishop, he's from around here. >> reporter: and while slotkin
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is outraising him now, bishops campaign will be expecting $2 million from speaker paul ryan's pac. but president trump promised a lot. >> i alone can fix it. >> reporter: and slotkin is counting on marginalized republicans to turn the tide. >> i absolutely refuse to go back to straight republican ticket as a result of what's going on in d.c. right now. >> so this race shows you why democrats are optimistic. this will be a tough race but she's making kitchen table issues the issue here. you hear no talk about russia, no overt bashing of trum but this candidate, mike bishop, is particularly vulnerable on health care because he served in the state legislature when he was senate leader, he helped block repeal of this unique shield law that basically michigan voters aren't allowed to sue pharmaceutical manufacturers and you can see how this is going to coalesce
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with what will happen over the summer. health care prices are set to go through the roof, voters here, that's all they're talking about. it's hitting them hard whether you're a senior citizen, young, old, it cuts across these demographic lines of gender, economic, class. >> peter, it's interesting that the democrats that i've spoken to in the democratic leadership. the most progressive, even those at the tip of the spear on the russia investigation are saying when you go back to your voters, don't talk about russia. don't talk about the resistance. look at donald trump's promises on the campaign about health care. look at his promises about helping working class voters. and forget the resistance, forget russia, forget all of that. you have some pretty strong 30-second ads if you just lift what he said in the campaign and move it forward two years and say are you better off today than you were two years ago on health care, on taxes, on all
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these issues? >> this is why the conversation we just talked about in canada, trade and so forth, is important. because donald trump scrambled the whole normal political equation. he's not a free trader. he's not a republican chamber of commerce guy. he's speaking to a lot of democrats when he talks about how we have been shafted by trade, particularly in michigan and the question is whether he can do it again through these proxies, through these congressional candidates. can he once again tell voters who might not have supported republican presidential candidates that she should stick with him by supporting a republican congress. may may not see mike bishop as a proxy for that and she may be able to convince him that trump's language has been hollow but he's scrambled the equation that other presidents haven't. >> but jeffrey, just as barack obama's talent and skill on the campaign trail in 2008 and 2012 was not transferable in 2010 and 2014 for democrats, it's hard to
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see how donald trump helps many republicans this year in 2018. especially when you have the kitchen table issues that again -- >> look, he has a low unemployment rate to brag about and he has a stock market perfmance to brag about and he's good at bragging. i'm not saying that insultingly. >> and the way barack obama was terrible in fautalking about th economy. >> he had a little bit more self-conscience about it. the good news for donald trump from what i'm hearing from heidi is that when you go to these districts, people are not saying this russia investigation, man, keep me up to date on what papadopoulos is doing. my question is is there a low level concern about the conduct of the government's business regarding the russia investigation where people aren't bringing it up?
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>> i do not hear much about russia. >> you're coming from washington to them and not eve saying -- >> that second table was interesting. the women there, it was this garden club of former republican women voters and they were adamant. the first issue they were talking about was women's issues and that is what alyssa sl elis is talking about. so they're counting on a coalition of fired-up democrats and also these disaffected educated female republican voters coming over. that said, this is an uphill battle and it's a reality check for democrats because there's still a lot of republicans. we went door knocking with paul ryan's pac and there was still a lot of republicans who had never heard of her and democrats, too. and they're going to be hard pressed to overturn somebody like mike bishop who has such
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name i.d. >> stay with us, heidi. we started the block talking about the student survivors from parkland, florida. last week also marked the loss of anthony bourdain and kate spade. we posted some resources at knowyourvalue.com. we have important information about understanding treatment options for depression and stress. you can check out our article by nbc news health editor madelyn fernstrom all at knowyourvalue.com. we'll be right back with much more "morning joe." her salon was booked for weeks,
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>> so the latest column for the "atlantic" is entitled twitter trump goes to war against democracy. >> wait, he's canadian, can we trust him. >> he's also american. impossible. there's such a thing. >> you're just as liberal as the rest of them. >> such a thing as dual loyalty. >> this is what david frum writes "he's like heath ledger's joker but without the operational excellence." that was the grim afteraction assessment of one g7 official with whom i spoke in the shocked
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aftermath of president trump's savage post-summit tweets. trump is day by day abdicating u.s. leadership, he is testing to the breaking point relationships that there was never any reason to test in the first. trump arised in singapore. it's a good guest he will show himself much more conciliatory to this dictatorial adversary than american's democratic friends. trump is locked into a cycle in his top level diplomacy, bully-cringe, bully-cringe. he bullies traditional friends and allies, he cringes to adversaries and potential funding sources for trump enterprises. gullying the g7 was the weekend story, cringing to north korea and behind it china will be the story of the week ahead. >> jeffrey.
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>> i wish i could figure out how david felt, always writing this these riddles. >> bully-cringe. >> explain -- there is a consistency that praises putin, never criticized him. positive about erdogan. maybe that's about his business interests in turkey. he praises duarte, maybe that's about his business interest in the philippines. he's -- he actually praised xi when he consolidated power in china in a way not seen there since mao. yet he constantly is attacking against canada, france, germany, great britain. all the different democratically elected leaders. >> yeah. i -- look, there are -- people assume that there's no consistency here or long-term pattern of thought but tom
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wright from brookings and a couple of others have noticed a long time ago he has certain strongly-held beliefs and he has certain strongly-held pre-dispositions. one of them is a weakness for authoritarian type figures. i -- this is the man we just saw the clip, he said i alone can fix it. that is not the statement or the thought of a person with democratic -- small d democratic inclinations. so he has this weakness. he also sees them as potential deal partners in a way he doesn't see allies. he's picking fights with al liesz in order to sell better deals to the american people, sell the idea he's getting a tter deal b with these tradional american adversaries he believes that he alone can bring them into the fold. i think this is the way he thinks. it's dangerous to speculate about how he thinks but in so doing he's going to make the same mistake that other
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presidents have made which is when you want a deal too much you wind up getting a bad deal for yourself. >> all right. still ahead, an exclusive interview with kim jong-un's former teacher ahead of this week's historic summit. nbc's keir simmons joins us next with that. we'll be right back. it took guts to start my business. but as it grew bigger and bigger, it took a whole lot more. that's why i switched to the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy. everything.
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president trump and kim jong-un are set to sit down for an historic summit just hours from now. ? an exclusive interview, nbc news foreign correspondent keir simmons traveled to switzerland to speak with a former swiss teacher who says kim was his student for an entire year. >> reporter: smiling, ruthless, mysterious. who is kim jong-un? this former high schoolteacher's experience may hold crucial lessons for president trump. 20 years ago, his student, he believes, was the future leader of north korea. >> his name was un and he
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started school in the seventh cl he was about 14 years old. >> reporter: in his first english-language interview, he says he taught un sports, math, and german at this school. he was even his home room teacher. >> he was a good student but he wasn't extraordinary. >> he says kim jong-un will likely understand english. so you think he would have at least learned a basic french and english and german. >> you have to. >> reporter: it was 1998 when we believe he was in switzerland. intrigue surrounds his life here. it's thought kim jong-un spent many years in europe. for a while he's said to have lived in a apartment here with his aunt and uncle so while we may know little of him, to underestimate his knowledge of the west might be a mistake. a swiss investigative journalist on a fellowship at stanford
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university believes he's even uncovered the visa application. >> in this document you see the siblings of kim jong-un, chol pack whomi young who is his younger sister and the date of birth is consistent with kim jong un's age. >> michelle still has a school photo of his former student. >> they took a picture from every student. >> nbc news sent that picture for analysis. >> the nose, the mouth and two different features really line up giving the strong likelihood that is a photo of kim jong un. >> his long time caretakers defected to the u.s. where they are now in hiding. and it's thought he switched schools away from his brother and sister. michelle remembers a boy with limited friendships but loving basketball.
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>> when we played basketball together and in sports he always looked like a pro in his nba clothes, also the nikes, the good ones, that was the time for shaquille o'neal and michael jordan. >> and he could take a joke. >> i said hey,ou welcome loor like a pro. but there is still a way to go to play like a pro. >> you teased the leader of north korea, the future leader of north korea. >> yeah. for me, i wasn't teasing the leader of north korea. i was teasing pac. >> the school will not confirm his attendance but says a north korean teenager was at our school. he left on short notice. the boy was well integrated, diligent and ambitious. his hobby was basketball. his next decade is shrouded in
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more secrecy. his father was the one who influenced him the most, he says. he awe absolute obedience, kneeling in front of his father. now kim jong un is forcing all the officials to do exacty the same. the world learned the name of kim jong un on the death of his father in 2011. >> soon, president trump will sit down with kim jong un, face to face, eye to eye. what's your advice? >> try to find the sense of humor. >> a high stakes meeting depending on personal rapport where the man whether trump meets may not match the image on tv. and now former teacher went on to tell me that president trump should try to look for the real person but think about this, joe and mika. kim jong un appears to have spent his high school years
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friending to be someone else. >> okay. thank you very much for that report. >> you bet. >> it does seem we need to be -- dennis rodman needs to see this. >> what is a possibility, though, jeffrey that he does open up north korea? what's the possibility? >> i think speculating about the belaif your of the north korean regime is a little bit of a fool's errand. >> i want to show you a short i just made. >> so good. >> i'm not sure, the arrow. >> this is a new one. this is the amount of speculation on "morning joe." this is what we do. >> sorry, but it is -- i remember david saying the iran nuclear deal was a cosmic gamble.
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so here's -- we believe that he wants to make that cosmic gamble with north korea to open the society, to get the economic payoff? >> well, look, i mean, the libyan model is salient here. there's no way that any dictator worth a damn would give up his nuclear weapons. >> gaddafi gave up nuclear weapons and got killed by the united states. >> he was nuclear free and that didn't help his personal -- >> i think kim jong un remembers that. >> he remembers it well. i mean, you know, there's a possible mot possible model here. but many dictators wouldn't mind having a mcdonald's without the democracy that goes along with the mcdonald's, so there's a posz lts of economic reform here. it's hard to imagine the h family loosening its absolute hold on power.
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>> there are two models and i've always been fascinated by the two models. there's the russian model where you give some commit cal freedoms and then there's the chinese model which starts in 1989 and continues forward where you don't give political freedom but you allow capitalism to run rampant unchecked. >> the china model now prefers that model and so does russia. putin is trying to put them on the same path and that's appealing obviously to people like kim jong un whether it's rep reply kabl in there, if you start out tomorrow and open it up to the west, it would take decades to get anywhere close to
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where south korea is. >> and le's not forget human rights. there is this huge question, it doesn't sound as though we're going to bring it up. that has been a bedrock principle. they have hundreds of thousands of people that are physically smaller than most people on earth because they've been deprived for so long and that's going unaddressed. >> thank you all for being on this morning. and still ahead on "morning joe" -- >> canadians are polite, we're reasonable but we also will not be pushed around. >> so apparently -- >> how dare he say that? >> president trump doesn't think justin trou dee so polite. what he said that had trump and several of his aides lashing out over the weekend. plus more charges in the russia probe. special counsel robert mueller has charged a 20th person in his
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the ultimate objective we seek from diplomacy with north korea has not changed. the denuclearization of the korean peninsula is the only outcome that the united states will accept. sanctions will remain until north korea completely and verify my eliminates its weapons
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of mass destruction programs. if diplomacy does not move in the right direction and we're hopeful it will continue to do so, those measures will increase. >> secretary of state briefing the press in singapore ahead of the first ever summit between a u.s. president and a north korean leader. president trump arrived. their first meeting will beone on one and it all comes just days after tense meetings with america's closest allies. it's monday, june 11th. we're in washington this morning and with us we have presidential historian, political reporter for the washington post and moderator of washington week on pbd and political analyst, and an associate editor of the washington post.
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eugene robinson and kasie is here with us as well and it doesn't stop there. former chief of staff of the cia, now on nbc analyst is with us and also supreme allied commander, retired four star navy admiral james stavridis. >> this weekend, certainly if you care about america's place in the world, it had to be one of the most concerning. certainly -- i'll just say the most depressing. and donald trump's year and a half in office, i must say that at least for me my worst expectations were actually met this weekend at the g7 meetings.
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what -- what's the impact on america and the world? >> i share your concern, and you know, if you're getting ready in a schoolyard to face a bully, which is kim jong un, you would think you would want to kind of gather your friends around you. here was a perfect setup, walk into a summit meeting with the largest economies in the world, all u.s. allies. why not come out of that with a strong sense of community to go face this awful dictator in singapore? so it fails the pragmatic test and joe, even worse, kind of the tail end of the whole thing, he goes after nato as a former supreme allied commander i pick up on that and i'll tell you, when you so aggressively go after the european allies, you drive them away from us and to do it at this moment, it's bad politics. >> and michael, here we are one
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week after celebrating -- remembering what happened, what the united states and what our allies did d day and to see the attacks and again, no strategic rpose for those attacks. in fact, the attacks against trudeau were strangely, weirdly personal. i don't quite understand what's going on there with donald trump. i don't know if he is threatened by justin trudeau being younger, i have no idea, but it wld be one thing if you could say canada has really been screwing us for 30 years. i mean, listen, you can say that about china. you could say that -- i mean, you talk to business people and they say i don't like the tar f tariffs but china has been screwing us for 30 years economically. you can't say that about canada. you want say that about germany. you can't say that about our
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allies. i'd ask you to put it in perspective but. >> there is none. >> i can't think of a president who has done something like this and the problem here is a couple of things. one is what we know donald trump has a temper and he reacts in emotional ways that may not be in our american national interest. number two, despite what he says he hasn't been in diplomacy. nixon went to china in '72. he had been doing that for 20 years. ronald reagan for 15 years when he met with -- and whether that is a shadow and an overlay and part of his motive trying to wreck this alliance. >> still a mystery. >> you said trying to wreck this alliance and you have donald trump trying to get vladimir putin and russia into the g7,
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trying to make it a g 8 which makes no sense alall. they invaded crimea which donald trump defended the invasion this weekend. you have him now going and meeting kim jong un and basically rolling out the red carpet for kim jong un, defending vladimir putin, attacking canada, france, germany, britain and i just say the question that hangs over all of this in this town is where the hell are the republicans? mitch mcconnell and we will get to it saying that this is the high water mark for conservat m conservatism? that's a vile statement. >> so it seems he's only consistent on russia and also on kim jong un. if you look at the president over the course of his first year in office. let's take you through how president trump handled things at the g7 summit. early on in the summit the president signals that the other six members of the group needed
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the u.s. and not the other way around. trump left late for the summit on friday landing an hour behind schedule. when asked why he was late one official told nbc news quote, he's the president, there's a lot on his plate and he was delayed. he again showed up late to a session the next day. this time 20 minutes late for a breakfast, but before he left the summit he chose to praise his fellow g7 leaders. >> i would say that the level of relationship is a 10. we have a great relationship. angela and emmanuel, and justin, i would say the relationship is a 10. >> but before his departure president trump took to twitter to criticize canadian prime minister justin trudeau over his remarks on a joint communique between members. >> based on the false statements at his news conference and the fact that canada is causing
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mayor tariffs i have instructed our u.s. reps not to approve the communique. trump continued. justin trudeau acted so meek and mild during our g7 meetings only to give a news conference after i left saying that u.s. tariffs were kind of insuting altinsult. very dishonest and weak. our tariffs are in response to dairy. >> and here are what some of the economic trade advisors said yesterday. >> he really kind of stabbed us in the back. he really actually, you know what, he did a great disservice to the whole g7. >> trudeau did? >> yes, he did. because they were united in the g7. >> so they had this bilateral meeting. and then we leave and trudeau
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pulls off this political stump for domestic consumption. >> there's a special place in hell for any foreign leader that engages in bad faith diplomacy and then tries to stab him in the back on the wayut the door and that's what bad faith, justin trudeau did with that stunt press conference. that's what weak dishonest justin trudeau did and that comes right from air force one. >> what he actually said. >> i'm happy to announce that we've released a joint communique by all seven countries. we had some strong firm conversations on trade and specifically american tariffs. up i reitlated to president that these tariffs threatened to harm industry and workers on both sides of our border. i stand ready to work closely with the president to resolve
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this dispute swiftly but i will always protect canadian wrorkers and canadian interests. >> that was very mild gene robinson, good god,nly donald t cld make me defend justin trudeau. he drives me crazy. from the seconde got on the world stage with that phony boxing match, i could go down the litdny. >> but i am now going to -- >> there's something else. >> there is something weird. there's something personal. i don't know what it is, but 'sply personal. he was calling him meek and weak and this and that. >> i know. and so he does that when he's feeling insecure. when trump is feeling insecure
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and so is it his youth, is it the fact that he's told he's a pretty good looking guy. something about him driving trump crazy, but speaking of crazy, think just how insane this. i mean, how -- how insane and amateurish this whole thing is. first trump, you know, goes ber zerk about this mild statement that trudeau made and then his advisors go out using language that's usually reserved for -- >> dictators like maybe north korea? >> a special place in hell and they -- there's this idea they voice that we, you know, trudeau made him -- tried to make him look bad if he's going off -- >> no, he didn't. >> a, he didn't and b, that's like negotiations over the north
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korean nuclear program are held at a slightly more sophisticated level. you think the north koreans are going to say, oh, well, you know, just because tru dr-- trudeau went after trump. but he doesn't even go aftertrump. he said i'll defend canada. lar larry c larry kud low stabbed us in the back and there's a special place in hell? trudeau's remarks were not even -- why is donald trump acting like a snow flake on the international stage? why is he the ultimate snow flake melting away when justin t trudeau gives a blandly cann
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resp. it was not that tough. he was being kind. he was -- >> it was imminently reasonable these sorts of negotiations are typically conducted. typically leaders understand each of them are under their own set of domestic political pressures. they try to both come together on shared goals for the international community while respecting the realities for the other leaders. they blew through that and i have to say that interview with peter navarro, saying there's a special place in hell for the rson who is arguably our closest ally, certainly our closest neighbor. that's now we typically talk about -- often times we don't use that language against dictators. >> we'll have a live report from on the ground and mitch mcconnell got a few federal
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mitch mcconnell, here's what he said during a speech to the national faith and freedom coalition conference for voters of faith in washington on friday >> in my view the last 16 months have been the single best period for conservative values since i came to washington as ralph indicated back in 1985 and this is not hyperbole. this is not spin, this is not hyperbole, this is a fact. >> all right.
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so there's a fact. bob, let's go through the litany. you've got the biggest spending bill in the history of america, massive increases in the deficit, the most reckless spending spree in american history i think this past year. he talked about conservative values at a faith meeting, paying off a porn star, getting busted with a playboy bunny, you could talk about all the racism and -- after post charlottesville, deend iffing white supremacists. trying to ban 1.5 billion people coming into the country. >> did you get the payoff to the porn star? >> i did. the litany goes on and on and now a left wing trade war and the dis'em boweling of the
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united states allies. i -- explain to me on what planet has donald trump's presidency been the high water mark conservativism? >> many have walked away from the republican party. a lot of people naming that same list, joe scarborough walking away from the party. i didn't want to bring that up. >> yes, i -- >> but what's interesting when you talk to your former colleagues and traditional conservatives, they cite the tax bill and the courts as the reason they're supporting president trump. they don't want to talk about the trade war and so they're really, with the leader you see him kind of try to separate the courts and the tax bill and some policies from the president's conduct and other aspects of the president's agenda. >> and kasie, this is a high
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water mark and mitch mcconnell is an honorable man. >> one thing that did strike me, he said this is the best period since i got here in 1995. that includes the second term of ronald reagan. the eventual fall of berlin wall. so i find that to be remarkable on those grounds but i do think his view of the world that he will be longer than president trump would be here. and the work he is doing riegs now is that, you know, they are stacking the courts. donald trump has put more judges on the circuit courts in the first two years of his term than the presidents that preceded him and those actions will have consequences and will shape our country for much longer. >> why not say that if that's what he meant. >> who is he speaking to there? republicans across the border are nervous about that voters
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journal poll shows most americans don't know what to expect from today's summit between president trump and kim jong un. 26% of registered voters think the president will demand too much and there won't be an agreement. 10% think trump will give up too much in order to secure an agreement. 14% think trump will get a deal but it's better for the u.s. than it is north korea. the highest percentage say they don't know enough to have an opinion. and new polling by the charles
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coke institute and real clear politics finds that americans have a strong preference for diplomacy over military engagement. 79% of americans feel trump and kim jong un should meet. 18% say they should not. 81% of south koreans feel the leaders should meet. on their hopes for the summit, 56% of americans are skeptical of the upcoming meeting improving relations with north korea. 34% of south koreans are skeptical the meeting will do any good. 37% of americans think it could take complete denuclearization for u.s. troops to leave the korean peninsula. 12% of the south koreans feel the same. finally 21% of americans and nearly half south koreans feel u.s. troops should remain indefinitely. joining us from singapore, peter
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alexander. what are the administration's expectations for this summit? >> you know, within the last ten or 15 minutes we received new information from this administration that gives us some details about what this is going to look like. we can now say this will be a one-day deal. the white house indicating in their words that the ongoing talks between the u.s. and north koreans have been moving more quickly than expected. we now know that the president at 9:00 p.m. eastern time, 9:00 a.m. our time tomorrow morning, this will be monday night back at home, is going to meet along with kim jong un, one on one, the two men only with their translators before they have an expanded bilateral meeting. the secretary of state mike pompeo will be there, john boll ton, as well as the chief of staff, john kelly and a working lunch which was not something initially indicated to us. the president will hold a media available, taking questions before departing at 8:00 p.m.
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our time. now, this is cig kachbt because wh -- significant because he said it could go one, maybe three da now it's only going to be one day. the president himself saying he's looking for the start of a good dialog, the beginning of relationship. the only thing i'd say is imagine if this comes up with a joint statement when they couldn't come up with one when the president was at the g7. >> thank you very much. >> and the fact that we're talking about a one-day summit with north korea, again on something as complicated as this issue, it does play to the fact that you're hearing from more white house insiders that this president absolutely loathes traveling abroad, i think maggie reported a couple days ago that
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this president has complained according from white house officials just about every foreign trip he's ever been on. he likes to be in the white house. he likes to be surrounded by people that say yes to him. he likes to be surrounded by events that he can control. that's why it always seems to go so terribly when he's abroad and here, let's face it, the short of this trip, the more scripted it can be, the more contained the president can be, the more contained the events can be, but as we learned from the g7, sometimes even getting the president off the ground doesn't protect us from tweets while he's traveling on air force one. >> we'll see what happens. up next, we'll discuss further what this change of schedule might mean for the summit. plus the president sounds optimistic about talks with north korea but what about the negotiations with bob mueller? we'll circle back to the russia
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special counsel robert mueller has charged a 20th person in his investigation of russian meddling in the 2016 presidential race. this time it's a former suspected russian intelligence officer, a long time aide to ex- trump campaign chairman, paul manafort, who was also hit with new charges of obstruction of justice for witness tampering. the indictment alleges that around the time period between late february and april the defendant's man fofrt and the other corruptly tried to dissuade ather person. meanwhile, the director of national intelligence, dan coats
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says that after the russian government's unprecedented influence campaign in u.s. politics in 2016, they are at it again. coats told a meeting cohosted by the atlantic counsel quote, it is 2018 and we continue to see russian targeting of american society in ways that could affect our midterm elections. these russian actions are purposeful and premeditated and they represent an all out assault by vladimir putin on the rule of law, western ideals and democratic norms. the russian threat in particular has awakened europe to the need to reinvigorate nato and bolster our collective defenses. we must not allow that to happen. this assessment of putin came on the same day president trump called for russia to be readmitted to the meeting of g7
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allies. white house economic advisor larry kudlow says the administration is on the same page. >> i think dan cotes is direct in his accusations but that doesn't mean you can't do business with him. i think, you know, they're part of the world story. they're a power, they're a military power, not an economic power. >> joining us now, politics editor sam stein, national political kwcorrespondent and fd kemp, a foerm correspondent and editor of the wall street journal for more than 25 years including coverage of all of the reagan summits. >> so let's start with you. i go back after the seeing the clips and hearing. dan coats talked about vladimir putin's premeditated attacks on u.s. democracy, and then the
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manafort news. this is now the 14th russian -- or russian agent that has been indicted and i go back to paul ryan's comments last thursday saying no collusion, no collusion, there's no evidence of collusion, no collusion. parroting the president, and we've already seen bob mueller has proven collusion. whether there's any criminality attached to it, whether it goes all the way to the president or not, that's -- and we'll learn when the investigation is over, but how the u.s. speaker of the house could say there's absolutely no collusion. >> well -- >> it's mind boggling. >> and i think coats has d us a service in putting our attention going forward into these midterms. a couple of weeks ago top officials came to the house of representatives. ryan arranged a classified briefing on what the russians are doing now to corrupt this
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midterm election and you know how many house members bothered to show up? about 40. 90% at the u.s. house thought they had better to do with their time than finding out what the russians are up to now. >> and you have the person in charge of overseeing all u.s. intelligence saying that vladimir putin in 2016 tried to interfere with american democracy and he is actively trying to do it again. trying to undermine u.s. democracy, where's paul rye i don't know on that? >> where's mitch mcconnell on that? he says this is the golden age of conservatism. where are they on this? >> this is the tough egs issue for all of them because they all disagree with the president on vladimir putin. mike pompeo isot on the same
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page. john boll tton is not on the sa page. >> even larry kudlow. >> and there's work behind the scenes to get trump and putin together maybe as early as july. so president trump has long believed he has an opportunity if he could meet face to face, that he could break loose this relationship and fix it. >> so many questions about russia. i know that a person closest to donald trump, his week in office was talking about the possibility of a trump/putin summit. at the same time that trump's national security advisor was about to go down for -- for lying about russia. his attorney general lied about contacts with russia. everybody in there, it seems at
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the beginning lying about their contacts with russia. the vice president lying. >> almost us special issues. >> the vice president of the united states, lying in early 2017 saying that nobody had had contact with russians during the campaign. >> so it's crazy. second of all there is this weird dichotomy where you have dan coats coming out saying they're trying to break up our transnational alliances, they're trying to undermine our position with nato and trump goes out in the succeeding days and does things that vladimir putin could only dream of. trashing nato in a series of odd tweets. cozying up to both kim jong un and potentially to poutin himself. and what it does is for me at least but a lot of other people,
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it continues tose the one substantive all encompassing question of this administration. why is he doing this? >> and take a look at this. this the the dean. thanks so america god and voters, trump is smashing it with a sledge hammer. that's why putin says he isn't trying to weaken the eu. why would he bother? trump is doing all the work for him. >> that is my point, that if you're a rational actor, and you were doing things that were in putin's favor, what would you do? you would go out of your way to say, no, no, no. you would be tougher on russia. you would do things that prove your independence. >> there are two people since he's been president of the united states that donald trump has not criticized. >> vladimir putin and michael avenatti and by extension,
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stormy daniels and this question -- this is a good buoyant. >> , this is -- i'm being deadly serious here. >> absolutely. >> donald trump came on our show in 2015. he defended vladimir putin as a strong leader. we said he assassinates his political enemies, he continued to defend vladimir putin and we were wondering at the time what does putin have on him? fast forward two and a half years, that queion stillingers out there. >> there's obviously something and whether bob mueller is going to figure it out, whether history is going to figure it out, i don't know, but there's obviously something. i mean, this is just one gigantic spot in donald trump's field ofision that you know, you just can't take your eyes away from. >> and this past weekend saying let's admit vladimir putin into
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the g7, make it the g 8 after he's invaded two countries over the past decade. after they have been responsible for shooting down a commercial airliner. i could go on and on. >> it's worse than that and to an extent better than that. during the g7 he sd i told you you should rely so much on the united states. look what the united states is doing now. and donald trump says nothing about this. and goes after justin trudeau instead. and it's supporting ukraine more than the obama administration ever did, so trump is also right, that he's being tougher than russia at the same time than the obama administration was. so there's a really contradiction here. >> and the sin consistency the
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there. i talked about the vice president lying along with the rest of donald trump's unner circle act contacts with russia. . at the same time, to hear mike spence was to hear ronald reagan speak at the wall. and her our ambassador, nikki haley, mike pompeo, they are russia hawks unlike the president they serve. >> yes, that's true, but then we have to wonder to what degree does the president determine the policy here. you can say stuff, act tough but in the end trump does sort of set the tempo and there's also been reports that ukraine is stopping its cooperation with the mueller investigation in exchange for those armed sales. so there's an element to this that is a little bit seedy too.
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when we hit the 2018 elections there's going to be questions. >> they are. dan coats says they are. >> can we have faith that the election is absent that foreign issue. i'm surprised at how they're reacting. >> let's underline though that there is a disconnect between donald trump's reckless rhetoric and the policies that the trump administration are putting in place. as you said, ask the polls about barack obama. taking away a promised missile defense operation, ask the ukranians about barack borack o.
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you look at the policies and those policies do seem tougher towardrussia. >> so russia keeps surprising us. it surprised us with the invasion of georgia, surprised us going into syria. the next thing crimea and a lot of people say it's already happening in the ball kins. you can buy property cheap there and if the president decides ho to -- there are little decisions every day on russia that get brought into the oval office where the president doesn't push them forward. we don't know all of those decisions. they don't all come out in the media, but the feeling within the white house is we don't quite understand why president is easier to be on russia, he doesn't do it. that is the confusion here where
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he is on a different page than almost everybody in administration that has access. >> it's almost like we need a i didn't go your to go to a small college in missouri. you look at what's happening in poland, politically. you look at what happens in central europe politically and democracy and the western liberal lichl, not left wing liberalism is in retreat. he's finding the divisions and we're seeing the rise of anti democratic fces in central and eastern europe. >> and the question is whether this is going to be any kind of priority for this president. i mean, you look at the reporting last year. he gets his presidential daily brief orally, the people who brief him have said that they don't -- they on purpose don't
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talk about russia because they don't want to upset him during the daily briefing. you know, how much of a focus does he even want to make on these forces? >> they don't bring that stuff up. >> everybody stay. up next, whi is more likely to move the asia markets? we'll go live to wall street for a loo business before the bell. keep it right here on morning joe. (vo) we came here for the friends. and we got to know the friends of our friends. and we found others just like us. and just like that we felt a little less alone. but then something happened. we had to deal with spam, fake news, and data misuse. that's going to change.
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you get that sense that you're not the only one who feels that way. well, i'm just grateful that everybody... that i'm not the only one that feels that trump needs to be impeached.
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canadians, we're polite, we're reasonable, but we also will not be pushed around. >> canadian prime minister -- >> it is "south park." he was so polite. >> sweet. >> so kind. >> very sweet. >> so sweet. and yet donald trump is -- >> to great effect. >> -- is tweeting -- >> what's going on here? >> yes, what's going on there? it's personal. >> it's definitely -- >> is it? i don't know. because he's like a good-looking dude and trump gets -- >> no. >> i don't know. that was like the most conciliatory nice press conference. >> so kind. >> and then for trump to just
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trash him after the fact. it is a bit bizarre. a special place in hell for -- says navarro for justin trudeau. before this, a guy known mainly for instagraming one-armed push-ups. >> that's his biggest sin. >> i think one of -- >> that's so weird. >> when it comes to our alliances and trump is talking to his base, he seems to define them as beginning and ending with trade, that yes, we've had trade disputes with canada for a long time over dairy. canada was also, you know, leading the charge for invoking article 5 after 9/11. >> no, there's something weird going on. >> something i just don't get. >> let's go to cnbc's sara eisen joining us.
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how is the tension going with allies? >> they're brushing it off. we're digesting the trade rbulence from over the weekend. they're pointing to a higher start on wall street. why? well, markets tend to tune out geopolitical noise. when it comes to trade, no doubt an explosion of global trade has helped the world economy have its best growth in years. so the question is tariffs hurt growth. why is the market not processing that? we talked to a number of investors. the bet is calmer heads will prevail. it's in nobody's interest to have a trade war, especially president trump. we'll continue to monitor this. especially inflammatory ones from president trump's economic team of kudlow and navarro. >> seems like -- this is not a market term but it seems we're in the midst of a confidence bubble where we just assume that
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institutions will hold. that people see rational actors will pervade. and eventally something will >> right. feels like. >> there are three theories on trump. one of them he is despair, he's going to break up the world order, going to lead us to terrible things. it is never as bad as his rhetoric and turns out better. and the third is this kind of disruptive figure leads to successes like perhaps in north korea. and depending on where i wake up, i land in one of those -- >> that's optimism. up next, a new piece asks why president trump is so skilled at tearing down practices and so unskilled at building something better in their place? fred kemp tackles that question. brighthouse financial allow you to take advantage of growth opportunities... with a level of protection in down markets. so you can be less concerned about your retirement savings. talk with your advisor about shield annuities
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so fred kemp, you write this
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in your latest column. president trump has demonstrated skill at shredding practices and structures he doesn't like, an approach that he's recently accelerated. what he hasn't yet shown is the architect skill of building something better in their place. that's curious, given the fact that any real estate developer recognizes that those who build sturdy and resilient structures are more likely to achieve legacy than those who merely tear it down. it's a great point. >> anyone can kick down a barn. >> we look at the iran deal, he's withdrawn from. the paris climate deal, he's gotten out of. he's shown he can be disruptive and get out of things but now can he do this better with iran, can he do a trade deal? the silver lining is he said maybe a tariff free deal with europe. the real test is now in north korea. can he be disciplined enough to come away with the structure
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that keeps in place the chance for denuclearization? this is an historic moment for him but he hasn't done it yet. >> a question that won't be answered this week. that's something we'll find out over the next five years. >> that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. >> thanks so much, mika, thanks, joe. big day here. i'm stephanie ruhle with a lot to cover this morning. starting at first with a nuclear summit. president trump and kim jong-un sit down for an historic meeting and the stakes could not be higher. with two very unpredictable leaders. what constitutes success? >> there are only two people that can make decisions of this magnitude. those two people are going to be sitting in a room tomorrow. >> odd man out. defiant president arrives late to a meeting of america's closest and biggest allies. he leaves early and ends by going after canada's prime minister justin trudeau. >> there's a special place

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