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starting with signed, sealed and delivered. president trump and kim jong-un reach an historic agreement. >> the letter that we're signing is very comprehensive. and i think both sides are going to be very impressed with the result. >> north korea agrees to the denuclearization of the korean peninsula. but the language on how to verify completely left out. >> we'll be verifying. it will be achieved by having a lot of people there. >> the u.s. makes its own concession, agreeing to stop military exercises. >> we will be stopping the war games which will safl ve us a tremendous amount of money. >> president trump praising the leader whose regime is responsible for deplorable human rights abuses, maybe the worst in the world. >> well, he is very talented. anybody that takes over a situation like he did at 26 years of age and is able to run
it. >> run it, starving and imprisoning his own people. a landmark summit that took place in singapore. president trump and kim jong-un making history just by shaking hands. the two men also signed a deal promising a path to denuclearization. but here's the question. is it style or is there actual substance? it's a question we've asked for months when it comes to president trump who's a tremendous salesman and many are waiting for him to deliver. i have a great team here to break all of it down. first, i want to explain what happened while you and were sleeping. if nothing else the meeting between president trump and kim jong-un was a made for tv spectacle. the two men smiling, chatting and shaking hands in front of the american and north korean flags. ent says tuickly established a very special bond. that bond ultimately resulted in a deal that mr. trump says marked a, quote, bold step toward a bright new future. >> today's the beginning of an arduous process.
our eyes are wide open. but peace is always worth the effort. especially in this case. this should have been done years ago. this should have been resolved a long time ago. resolving it now. chairman kim has the chance to seize an idible future for his people. anyone can make war. but only the most courageous can make peace. >> the first step in that process, a two-page joint statement agreement that was both remarkable and actually very vague. president trump committed to provide, quote, security guarantees for north korea while kim jong-unreaffirmed his, quote, firm and unwavering commitment to complete nuclearization of the korean peninsula. here's a question we're all asking, what exactly does that known? here's the problem, it's unclear. the president said in a later interview that it did not mean removing the u.s. nuclear umbrella over south korea and japan or pulling u.s. troops
from south korea. he said denuclearization just referro north korea getting rid of its weapons. is he concerned that the north may break its promises? >> how do you ensure that north korea is not all talk, no action? >> well, i think can you ensure anything? can i ensure that you're going to be able to sit down properly when you sit down? i mean, you can't ensure anything. all i can say is they want to that's what ido. my whole life has been deals. i've been great at it. that's what do. and i know when somebody wants to deal and i know when somebody doest. a lot of politicians don't. that's not their thing. but it is my thing. i mean, again, this really could have been done i think a long time ago. but i know for a -- i just feel very strongly. my instinct, my ability or talent. they want to make a deal. >> in terms of probability, that young woman just stood up from sitting in a chair and it there so from probability
ive, she can absolutely sit back down. president trump has gone bankrupt four times. the author of "the art of the ss l" has a tattacked presidente practices. 't seen deal making thus far. secretary of state pompeo said yesterday the key to this deal was verification. but neither side provided details on the verification process. all the president would say is that it would be achieved by, quote, having a lot of people there. what's more, there's no concrete timetable for north korea to its nuclear program. although the president said things would, quote, go quickly. in the meantime, he said sanctions will remain in place but no new ones will be added. on is that in this agreement a promise from north korea to return right mains of american soldiers who died during the korean war. and one final point, president trump says after deal was signed, kim pledged to destroy a missile engine testing site.
so that's what the u.s. gets. but the biggest headline may be whorth korea gets. they get a promise from the president to end joint military exercises with south korea. what the president described as. >> it's a very provo situation. one when i see that and you have a country right next door, so under the circumstances that we're negotiating aery comprehensive complete deal, i think it's inappropriate to be having war games. so number one, we save money, a lot. and number two, it really is something that i think they very much eciated. >> war games. so where do we go from here? the president says u.s. and north korean teams will be meeting again next week and he even held off the possibility of inviting kim to the white house in the future. he also said meeting itself was a win for both men. >> i noticed that some of the people were sayin that the president has agreed to meet.
he has given up so much. i gave up nothing. i'm here. i haven't slept in 25 hours but i thought it was appropriate to do. because we've been negotiating literally around the clock with them and with us and with john and mike and very talented people. but we haven't given up anything other than, you're right, i agreed to meet. i think the meeting was every bit as good for the united states as it was for north korea. sure, they got a meeting. but only a person that dislikes donald trump would say that i've agreed to make a big commitment. >> i want to bring in nbc's peter alexander live in singapore. was this a win for both leaders? when president trump said he gave up nothing, he just agreed to a meeting. we're tal about the leader of the united states of america.
giving his time. shaking an autocratic dictator who starves and imprisons his own people. a human rights abuser. for the president to say that, i wonder, does he realize the honor of the office? >> yes, no, i think that was a notable statement from prent trump. at one point said during an interview after his meeting, he said kim jong-un loves his people, which was significant because the president ignores the fact that kim jong-un runs what is an oppressive authoritarian regime. nobody has a choice but to love him. who leaves here as a winner? well, the president is insisting that both sides will come out ahead. on air force one as he began his long trip back to the united states. he says that he trusts kim jong-un. he also had a phone call a short time ago upon takeoff to president moon of south korea who has had a snificant role in this process over the last several weeks and months. a spokesperson for the south
korea government saying tthe president achieved a great victory. that he broown one of the biggest remaining cold war barriers. the cold war legacy that existed in north korea. but i think what a lot of americans wi at right now is what president trump gave the koreans. among other things, the two of them shaking hands side by side. sort of bestowed upon kim jong-un this legitimacy, respectability, the two men side by side, flanked by the flags that were mixed one next to the other. we heard from the president a short time ago alsoking about the path forward, what happen next. here's part of what he said. >> touched on the issue of peace treaty and also will you travel to pyongyang any time soon? >> well, at a certain time, i will. that will be a day i look very much forward to at the appropriate time. i also will be inviting chairman
kim at the appropriate time to the white house. i think it's really going to be something that will be very important. >> the president suggesting it's likely the two men will meet many more times in the future. the end of this historic day. president trump saying all he gave up was his time. there's certainly a lot of critics that suggest the u.s. gave up a lot more. >> all right, peter, you need a nap, my brother. i want to bring my panel in. bobby gosh, a foreign affairs analyst. and victor cha, an expert on korean affairs and former member of the national security council. i want to focus speciespecially this agreement. if and what did we achieve out of this? i think back to the six-party talks in 2003 and i'm pretty sure we got more then and then north korea reneged on it all. >> that's right. in 2005, i was doing negotiations then. we got a statement from north korea they would abandon all
nuclear weapons and existing nuclear programs and return at an early date to the nonproliferationy. that's a lot more specific than denuclearization of the korean peninsula. >> they didn't actually fulfill that promise back then. >> that's right, they didn't fulfill it back then with a more specific document. they still didn't fulfill it. why the president thinks this time will be different, i'm really not sure. >> if you had to grade it? >> i would not give it a high grade. having said that, look, this is better than war. if it's war or peace, you know, we sayt's better than war. but having said that, i mean, i was thinking we did a summit. we put the pressure in front of the noh korean leader to get a document like this? it's just not a big win. >> all right, let's talk about what the president said about the process and the timetable for denuclearization. >> it does take a long time to,
you know, pull off complete denuclearization. it takes a long time scientifically. you have to wait certain periods of time. a lot of things happen. but despite that, once you start the process, it means it's pretty much over. you can't use them. that's the good news. that's going to start very soon. i believe that's going to start very soon. we will do it as fast as it can mechanically and physically be done. i've read horror stories. it's a 15-year process, okay. assuming you wanted to do it quickly. i think whoever wrote that is wrong. >> what do you say to that? >> well, i think the president has walked into a, you know, very challenging environment and based on the performance during his response to the question, some of which we've just seen, maybe wasn't fully prepared. >> in terms of what he just said there, whoever wrote that report, i think he's wrong? >> well, the experts. the experts -- >> president trump did not bring any scientists with him on this
trip? >> look, north korea has built over 50 years a system that finally led to the breakout, the development of a nuclear warhead, and most people think now the ability to deliver that warhead even as far as main land united states. it's not so easy to dismantle that program even if the north koreans were willing to allow the international community to do so. and that's the big question what the president is asking us, americans, and the world to do is to trust kim jong-un. and there's no rea for the president to confer that prestige and trust on kim jong-un at this time. it really i think brings to light the problem of doing this in a top-down way. there's no confidence building, foundation building. at the middle level diplomat level that could lead to summit. instead, you have the president
surprising it is global community of diplomats by accepting the summit, going and really signing on to a single sheet of paper, a very thin agreement. it's incomplete. you asked victor about the grade. i think we should be generous -- >> truly though, we won't know for years the impact of this. president trump has taken a different approach. it doesn't necessarily -- iee shaking your head, bobby. he did sort of pierce the il. he did sit down and have this meeting. mike pompeo is there. mike pompeo did talk about the importance of verification or as he says, the big v. take a listen. >> the v matters. we are going to make sure we set up a system sufficiently robust we will be able to verify these outcomes. once the v happens, we'll precede the pace. that's what's been missed before. >> you know, it's four points.
it could have been one sheet if their signatures weren't so big. we all of this before. not only in the promises north korean has made to the united states but i would argue more importantly the promisesha north korea's made to south korea. i was a journalist in hong kong in the year 2000, the first time when the two heads of the countries met. it was a huge, huge deal. the south korea president wound up getting the nobel peace prize for it. we've seen the movie before. we've seen kim, his father, his grandfather, make the exact same promises. and nothing comes out of it. how would i grade this? on a scalef 1 to 5 nothing burgers, this is a 3 1/2 nothing burger. it's still a nothing burger. >> one thing that is coming out of it is the united states ending these joint military exercises with south korea. president trump calls them war games.
>> i think that was a surprise to the south koreans. the next set of exercises w have been in august. the annual exercises -- >> hold on, you think the south koreans had no idea president trump was going to agree? >>hey had no idea. >> they're our partners in this. >> every year, we do them together. they're for the purpose of military -- they're not games. they're for the purpose of military readiness, congressional deterrents. this is when you think about as a negotiator, this is what you don't want to do. you don't want to sacrifice alliance equities for a vague promise of something in the future that won't happen. >> trump would say alliance equities, south korea needs us, we don't need them. >> alliances are not just about money. he talks about alliances in terms of money and they're just not about money. south korea has fought with the united states in every war since the korean war. you can't put a dollar value on that. >> he talked about ending these military exercises as a
financial decision. take a look. >> the war games are very expensive. we pay for a big majority of them. we fly in bombers from guam. i said it when i first started, i said, where do the bombers come from? guam. nearby. i said, oh, great. nearby. where's nearby? 6 1/2 hours. 6 1/2 hours? that's a long time for these big massive planes to be flying to south korea to practice and then drop bombs all over the place and then go back to guam. i know a lot about airplanes. it's very expensive. and i didn't like it. >> unfortunately, diplomacy is like insurance. you don't like how much it costs but you need it to save yourself in terms of disaster. >> absolutely right. first of all, it's not only about airplanes. these exercises are very complex. they involve soldiers on the ground. they involve naval exercises. they involve airplanes, yes. the airplanes are only one piece of a -- i would argue the other things are probably more --
>> trump would make the argument planes, army needs to do it. that's what his argument would be. he would say you're making the case for him. >> here's the thing. all of that has an impact. all of that has helped bring kim jong-un to the negotiating table. all of those over the years have confined kim's bad behavior to a limited sphere of influence. those things work. you could argue that exercises are useless if they don't work. we've seen over and over again they actually do work. if it was such a simple thing, why go behind the backs of our allies and do it? why not bring the allies in for that discussion and say together we agree this doesn't work so we're going to stop doing it? here's my prediction. two years from now, the exercises are back. we discover that kim's not keeping his end of the barg two yearrom now, the exercises are back and two years is an outer perimeter as well. i think it will happen sooner.
>> full eagle, this massive military exercise, is not just about north korea. our military posture in the western pacific reassures our allies and friends throughout asia, including southeast asia, and candidly, we have underwriden security in the most valuable shipping lanes since world war ii. this powers the american economy, the safety of those shipping lanes. our allies and friends throughout the world are looking at this and might conclusion we are less reliable and this we have been at any time really since the end of world war ii. there's real -- this is high stakes, stephanie. i worry that the president may have put a chip on the table and bargained it a without fully appreciating some of the unintended consequences, if you will. >> how do you think this plays to the military, military audience? i know president trump securing a commitment to recover the remaining of president anywheres of war.
that's a very big deal to the military community especially in terms of closure and respect. when you look at all that transpired in the last 24 hours? >> first, on the remains, i actually did the last remains recovery operation in 2007. it is, it's a very important action. it's very important for the familiesclosure. it is money to the north korean regime. it's money that the pentagon pays directly -- >> one more time, because i don't think people realize that. we have to pay them? >> yes. >> how much? >> it's expensive. it's like $1 million per each set of remains. >> really? >> it's not cheap. and it was just so -- >> why should we have to pay them? >> it's the north koreans. that's when you deal with the north koreans. singaporeans are paying $50 million for kim jong-un to have his all expense paid trip to singapore. that's the thing about the north koreans. you have to pay for everything. you don't get anything from them. >> we're obviously going to
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he was very first in the fact that he wants to do this. i think he might want to do this as much or even more than me. i think he's going to do these things. i may be wrong. i may stand before you in six months and say, hey, i was wrong. i don't know that i'll ever admit that. i'll find some kind of an excuse. >> so while the president says he believes kim jong-un will leave up to his side of the deal, he's also saying it's possible he doesn't. that id ssaid, i want to bring panel in. bobby, have you seen anything that makes you believe kim jong-un is more trustworthy? just stay with me. we've spent the last segment talking about that they've made these agreements before and haven't lived up to it. to some people, unsettling approach that he's put kim jong-un on the world stage. that might actually work.
>> no, it's completely the reversal how the process ought to work. think kim is trustworthy? of course not. we've also begun to trust mikhail gorbachev when he started giving his own people a break. this is a leader, kim jong-un, who is one of the most frightful leaders in the world today. as you said, horrific doesn't adequately describe what he does to his own people. any leader who does that to his own people is, by definition, not trustworthy. >> okay, but humor me for just a second. what you're saying is the process is going down the opposite as the way it should work? >> yes. >> but it hasn't worked successfully before. so how can we say that fairly? >> well, that's true. i mean, it hasn't worked in the past. in the end, the problem is not the way we approach north korea. the problem is north korea. >> yes. >> they, in the end, want all the benefits that come with world leader shship, being on t
world stage. in the end, they want this as a nuclear weapons state. there is nothing in the joint statement or anything that was said by kim jong- or any of his interlocutors that lead me to believe they're doing anything different. there is no new language in any of this you're right, why should we believe this time it's going to be different? >> let's go pictures rather than words. the president does favor pictures. according to the president, it's as much of a win for the united states as it is north korea. >> well, i don't see it that way. there may be other winners here, that is china. i think this is very good news in beijing. i would suggest to you whenever we see a picture of kim jong-un, we should consider maybe leaders in beijing, president xi is on one shoulder. part of their -- >> this is an excellent point. >> part of their long-term game is to, you know, make asia for
asians and make americans visitors. we've been in the western pacific now foreven or eight decades. and this idea that part of the deal will be to draw down american forces in korea, japan, sewhere ultimately, really serves the long-term interests of china. it sends exactly the wrong signal to our friends and allies in the region. where they're very close to an arising power, an increasingly assertive china, and they're looking to the united states -- >> where xi jinping will be holding his position for the rest of his life. >> he has that option for sure. he's certainly a strong man now, in control of a rising power. small countries in close proximity tend to resist becoming client states and they do that by seeking a fair counterweight. that's the role we've been playing historically. this might undermine that role if we're not careful. >> this is exactly the deal the chinese -- last year, the
late -- >> it's what the? >> it's the deal the chinese proposed last year in the late summer. it was called the double freeze. they said if the united states draws down its military presence, ends the war game, then the court rakoreans will s testing and give up their nuclear program. it was called a double freeze if i'm not mistaken. nikki haley at the united nations dismissed it as a stupid idea. six months later, that's the idea we signed up to. this is the chinese deal. this is a deal written in beijing essentially. >> i want to go back to when president trump was saying it cost him nothing to sit down and have this meeting. i wonder if he realizes the honor of the office of the president of the united states and sitting there side by side with kim jong-un who he is, what his regime has done and i want to share specifically what the president said about human
rights. >> i wonder what you would say to the group of people who have no ability whatsoever to hear or to see this press conference, the 100,000 north koreans kept in a network of gull laggings. have you betrayed them? >> no, i think i've helped them. i think they are one of great winners today, that large group of people you're talking about. i think ultimately they're going to be one of great winners as a group. >> how on earth are they the winners of this group? >> they're probably sitting behind bars cheering right now for the president. they're not the winners of this group. remember, this is a leader who the international community has recommended to the international criminal court for crimes against humanity. on almost every count possible of rights abuses. the reason the president of the united states has not sat with the north korean leader in the past is precisely this reason, human rights and nuclear weapons. this may seem costless to the
president but to everybody else who's watching, this is a big win for kim and he will pay that domestically. >> an average american who's sitting there. an average an cou the one time president trump sat down with obama, obama said the biggest threat is north korea. six months ago, many of us felt panicked. the rocket man, the big but the, the little button. if i was a military mom and one of my kids was deployed in asia, i would be panicked. and now they have this meeting. and the president isn't pushing on human rights violations. is that a priority for americans? are americans willing to say as long as we get denuclearization, i don't care about the other? i realize how insensitive that sounds. but put yourself in the mind of american priorities. >> i think it's a fair point. but it's really a false choice. it sort of suggests you can do security or you can do human rights. in america, it's not the way we operate. that, as victor has said, has been a fundamental principal in
all of our engagement, not just with north korea but with other human rights abusers around the world. certainly the security issue is front and center stage appropriately. we're america. if we're not going to stand up for human rights around the world, no one will. and, again, this is, you know, cause for concern that america's historic strength, what we have stood for, can be undermined. you know, it's kind of like character, right. >> he's okay with that because president trump is sort inch this history shmistory, i'm a different kind of guy, look at what he said. >> you have a different administration. you have a different president. you have a different secretary of state. you have people that are, you know, it's very important to them. and we get it done. the other groups, maybe it wasn't a priority. i don't think they could h done it if it was a priority. >> so he's sort of putting this idea out there that, like, diplomats are for dodos, we're
the ballers in the room. >> two years from now, all those things could be true. there could be a different president, different secretary of state. this is why diplomacy matters. thiss why relationship between countries is not the same thing as relationships between individuals. you need to have clear things written in stone. that two countries can work towards, plan towards that is independent of who happens to be leading any of those two countries at any given time. >> he omits the fact that anything in previous administrations did not do, they did not leave us with a nuclear war. >> well, i mean, again, that's a pretty low bar. >> but when he says they did nothing, they did a lot. they kept us safe. we have not. >> that's true. you can't -- you can't prove a negative, right. i will push back against the idea that the options before this president was a deal, a bad deal like this, or nuclear war. there was never going to be war with north korea. the united states was never going to go to war with a
million man army that has nukes -- >> devaluing safety? >> i think in a way he is. i think he feels as though this -- i mean, this is a temporary fix. this is not going to get us very far. we're going to get to the fall. then we have -- we're supposed to have exercises in the fall. are we going to have them? trump has put out that visit by kim jong-un on the occasion of the u.n. general assembly. that will be the first benchmark. so, you know, has this summit mamore secure? i'm really not so sure it has. >> coming up, a senior administration official using not the nicest of words to define the trump doctrine. why going alone might just work for the president. but on the inside, i feel chronic, widespread pain. fibromyalgia may be invisible to others, but my pain is real. fibromyalgia is thought to be caused by overactive nerves. lyrica is believed to calm these nerves.
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our closest allies left so people, and i'm talking foreign policy experts, befuddled. in a new report, it says it follows the so-called trump doctrine. an official tells the atlantic, quote, the trump docine is "we're america, bitch." nice. the president believes we're america and people can take it or leave it. the trump doctrine may help explain why nearly a year and a half into his presidency mr. trump often seems to go it alone, carrying out major decisions in defiance of longtime u.s. allies, congress' own advisers and member of his own party. from tariffs to pardons, the president is increasingly charting his own strategy on unilateral actions and there's evidence that the approach may be working for him. i want to bring in steve clemens, washington editor at large of "the atlantic." and ron insana, cnbc
contributor. senator torricelli, right after president trump won, when you had a lot of ceos around him who were suddenly saying wait, we might get a reagan here. if he puts good advisers around him and goes to mar a lago. he's not going to do this i and i alone thing. but alas, he has. we're seeing it in full effect as he's sort of dumping on diplomacy, not bringing a scientist to north korea, and i fighting with justin trudeau. what do you make of this? >> probably all inevitable. donald trump was never going to change. he was always going to act as an individual in his life. he's never been part of the business community of new york city. he went into politics without really being part of the republican political establishment. he was always going to fly by the seat of his pants. the consequences of what all this can really mean. >> what do you mean? because he would say flying by the seat of my pants, did i wi t
no one else could do. >> the president of the united states after 70 years has just announced unilaterally we're going to stop military exercises with south korea. well -- >> so trump's base would say, so what, what do we need to be doing that for. >> right. here's a vignette -- >> i hear you breathing heavy. >> here's a vignette of history. >> please. >> that if trump new nothing else in preparing for something, he might have known this. one of the things that led kim il-sung's grandfather to invade south korea in 1950 was the united states had pulled troops out of south korea, had no military presence. and then of course dean atten son famously said korea was not part of our vital interests. those calculations miscalculated the united states into a war that cost 40,000 lives. one does not unilaterally make statements contrary to history without understanding how they
might be misinterpreted. this will be misinterpreted. the entire summit is already nterpreted. the chinese -- the ink was not dry when the chinese starteding. there was developing a weapon. there was developing a launching system. and then there was leveraging it for international acceptance. the new yooshew york korean weae north korea weapons program made its final step, today, it is complete. >> jeff goldberg's piece that ran about the trump doctrine was wonderful because he wrote the piece on the obama doctrine. obama was about strategic caution in the world. beyond the obnoxiousness of what he reported on, on the trump doctrine, hey, this is america, as you said, bitch -- >> hang on, i'm repieeating whaa
white house official said. >> exactly, i'm repeating that as well. with that kind of statement, what we're really missing is this is donald trump saying to the world not only do we not care what our allies think and we will do what he want, it's masking the strategic repeat from global affairs. i think torricelli is absolutely right, even in north korea, even after what is going on, i was on your show after trump was in south korea the last time. when he actually made the statement this base is for your security, not our security. trump has beenling for a long time america really doesn't need to be doing all these things around the world and we can withdraw to our own shores. it's an recipe for early isolationism in a way. >> to that exact point, another senior official described trump's doctrine to the atlantic as this. no friends, no enemies. we have to explain to him that countries that have worked with us together in the past expect a level of loyalty from us. but he doesn't believe this
should factor into the equation. i mean, that right there is donald trump, the business guy, who didn't pay carontractors. when you go bankrupt, you get the benefit of filing. you get bankruptcy protection. and all the people around you such. >> it's not just these are transactional individuals who does this in dollars and cents, canceling the joint exercises. that is not the point of those exercises -- >> you know what, you lmi >> china is militarizing the south chinese sea. as a consequence, we're seeing some very serious potential consequences in that regard -- >> unrtunately,'m the only one who can hear you right now, so we're going to fix your mic. there you go. >> so with respect to this trump doctrine, there are i think shades of the1930s. to the extent we have economic isolationi
isolationism, trade protectionism and a pullback from our global sphere of influence. these are the things that happen in the 1930s that allow for greater fractionalization of the world. it led to not only trade wars potentiallyg wars. i don't think this agreement reduces risk in any way, shape or fo, as china militarizes in the far east. >> so then let's go back. if that's what history tells us, and president trump's current advisers might not be aware of that. where's the gop? bob? where are other government leaders who understand history and understand consequences? the gop is silent and who's the man standing next to trump? whether anytiin cada or singapo? you've got john bolton. so help me understand what the rest of the party's thinking. >> well, how about both parties? >> ah, there you go. >> the president of the united states just went to an unscripted summit with north korea. unilaterally gave away american exercises. now undermining these sanctions.
north korea now has established itself as a permanent nuclear power. a nation with 100,000 political prisoners. where's the democratic party on the human rights aspect of this? >> but what can the democratic party really do? >> what you're doing. the loyal opposition america is not the press. with all due respect. it's the democratic party. questions about national security, the competence of the administration, preparation, whether or not we're abusing our allies. whether or not we're breaking our standing commitments. they come from the democratic party -- >> but bob -- >> not msnbc. >> both democrats and republicans have been silenced by a bully. the only group that hasn't been is the press. >> silence is complexity, stephanie, this is theproblem. historically that has been the problem when people say first they came for this group and we did nothing. then this group and we did nothing. ultimately they come for everybody. i'm not saying that's where we're going but silence is absolutely complicity.
so the press -- >> he's neutered them. he's hijacked his own party and they allowed it. >> he's gas lighted everybody, too. that's a problem. >> if i may, i don't know if we've had enough time to see where the gop is on what donald trump just did. i imagine there's a lot of republicans extremely uncomfortable who are in the john bolton wing or the kind of, you know, they believe in american internationalism. i was pretty surprised cornyn tw york times" piece that inventoried the murders, the gulogs, incredibly harsh, inhumane conditions in north korea. that was john cornyn reminding. i posted a note back saying thank you, senator. that doesn't translate into action but at least he's educating people this is not a feel-good moment. >> the world didn't start yesterday. i didn't see too many people piping up after the president -- >> no, you're right. >> -- after the president went after justin trudeau. >> how about worse, how about going to quebec and on the eve
of the conference announcing that putin should be at the g-8? by the way, no one asked him about, he volunteered that. >> this is months after in the capital of our closest ally, the brit the russians committed a political assassination. only a few years after insliding the ukraine. and in the midst of an investigation over whether or not they tried to influence american democracy. and unprumted -- >> unprompted this is important. >> we are suggesting that putin be put back into the g-8. defies explanation. it goes to the point where the hell is the rep leadership on that issue? is there nothing to the man, to the woman, a person who is prepared to risk their career, risk an election, for the overriding interest of the united states? is that what the country's come to? >> and from an economic perspective, just purely about proposing russia, getting back into the g-8, russia is not one
of the top ten economies -- >> this is so important. a smaller economy than italy and we've purposed them into a super power. >> they don't even rate for being in the top e>> or top ten >> steve, we have to leat there. they had the home court advantage and these two just muscled their way in. >> they learned from the white house. >> the historic images. meetinface to face with kim jong-un. here's the question, are the optics alone his big win for the president? remember this is a ratings guy. that picture, does it win for trump? it's certainly a win for kim jong-un. this is a car protected from storms by an insurance company that knows the weather down to the square block. this is a diamond tracked on a blockchain - protected against fraud, theft and trafficking. this is a financial transaction secure from hacks and threats others can't see. this is a patient's medical history made secure -
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get money back hilarious. with claim-free rewards. switching to allstate is worth it. i want to thank chairman kim. spent a lot of time together today, very intensive time. this is going to lead to more and more and more and it's an honor to be with you, very great honor. thank you. thank you to all of your esentatives. >> that right there anyway you slice it an incredible site. for the first time in history the president of the united states sitting next to the leader of north korea. and the trump campaign is trying to capitalize releasing a statement that red in part, quote, as with our historic tax
cuts have unleashed economic growth, these are yet another validation that the american people were right 10 to trust donald trump to change the course and direction of our country that had been commanded by the political class in washington for decades. former senator of new jersey bobtor selly and robb and sonna still with me. it's historic. we have not seen an image like this, but the president w extraordinarily kind and complementary. he's touching, lean, he's so friendly to kim jong-un in the san honor that other presidents would never have bestowed on a north korean leader. so can president trump look at this as a true win or were there other president who's could have done something like this and wouldn't have? >> any president could have gotten this. >> thank you. >> this is what the north koreans have wanted for 70 years. they want the respectability as an outlaw regime murdering its own people to sit on the
international stage. they just got it. i saw maybe this makes me part of the establishment, but last night i saw wendy schumer comment -- >> you are, sir. >> i know. commenting that she was so struck by seeing the american and north korean flags next to each other. i thought the same thing. my god. >> struck that it's extraordinary or struck that on no planet should they get to stand next to us? >> the inappropriateness of an outlaw, murderous regime having united states of america with the president of the united states commending and honoring this brutal des pit. there was a famous photo of the behind denberg flying over with a swats tick ka on its tail. it was always unsettling to a generation of americans.
i felt the same way with the north korean fla last ny next to the stars and stripes honoringhis man. >> former nba star dennis rodman met with kim jong-un before he traveled to singapore he broke into tears when he did an interview last night on cnn. watch this. >> there's a reason when i said those things -- when i said those damn things, when i went back home i got so many death threats. i got so many death threats. i was sitting there protecting everything. and i believe in north korea, but i kept my head up high, brother. i knew things were going to change. >> another strange moment in an unusual day. welcome to 2018. dennis rodman was thrown over there by a crypto currency weed company and wearing make america great again. >> it's interesting. on the one hand most of us view this as surreal, almost as
surreal as the president shaking hands with kim jong-un and nottic shag hands with president rouhani of iran with whom when he a nuclear deal until recently. it's funny jim clapper felt that dennis rodman in a strange way could be useful as a bridge. and so we see part of the establishment suggesting as crazy as it might be, there could be some utility value here. >> but to that point, a strange way is donald trump who is similar to kim jong-un the s connect with him? while he sits there and compliments him over and over and we could think that's reprehensible. >> if i may, people have been talking about this as a nixon goes to china moment. i mean, it's just so unhooked -- >> they all like burgers, everyone involved in this. >> we're going to get franchise there's. but it just doesn't seem to have the gravity of a nixon going to china moment or the preparation or the detailed i think
negotiations that allowed china to at least begin a move into the family of nations. we also by the way have never zraersed china's human rights record in negotiations that led to their acc session to the world trade organization something that may have been missed in the conversations in the last 24 hours. >> so it's so crazy it just might work. not only holds no water to you, you think we're in grave danger after this? >> it works as a moment of public relations. it works as part of the mount be trump re-election campaign which i think is going exceedingly well in the rehabilitation of donald trump politically. does it work for the interest of the united states? no. the interest of the united states has been severely set back repeatedly month by month for two years. >> how do you say these two things. we're showing these live pictures right now, kim jong-un leaving singapore after the summit. how do you say that the president and his action over the last year leave nus grave danger how is his campaign going so well? >> i think the american people
have decided out of their economic frustration and cultural changes and the unsettling nature of american life that they want a different role in the world. that the world structure that was built in the late 1940s and rebuilt again in the '60s and '90s, the world order that we've come to know is no longer people.ble to a broad variety of they don't believe in multilateral -- >> but he hasn't offered them a solution. >> this is a triumph of steve bannon's view. >> wow, gentlemen, thank you so much. what an hour this has been. i'm not going to say what a 24 hours because don't forget, the president was in canada this weekend. and you know how to like to end this show no matter what always good news somewhere. we think good news ruhles around here and we're going to take you to minnesota where ty cohen throws a winning pitch to win a playoff game. an instead of celebrating on the field with his team, cohen ran to the plate to hug his
long-time friend jack cocoon. these two gentlemen have been friends since little league. after the graeme he told reporters our friendship is more important than just the silly outcome o game inspiring sportsmanship, a lesson for all of us. that game right there, kindness won. we need some more of that. that say great way to end this program prosecutor gentlemen. bob, ron, thank you so much. i'm stephanie ruhle. i will see you again at 11:00 a.m. i have to take a quick breather. and all day long on twitter. right now, r are more news with my friend hallie jackson who is truly working overtime. she joins us from singapore. >> but i had a chance to watch that video you just played on kpirt this morning, it brought a tier to even my desiccated heart. i love it. true friendship. >> true friendship. >> see new an hour. >> see ya. i'm hallie jackson live from singapore on assignment here as president trump is on his way back to the united states right now. a long fligh and then a long road ahead because even though the president said the
denuclearization of north korea will begin quickly, there's another "v" word that statement the leader signed does not include, verify. over night we've seen kim jong-un safe vorg the spot lite getting that perch. he's wanted the world stage promising to least past behind but we nont know when and how he'll step into the future. cae i did will of all of this, tens of thousands of troops, president trump brushing off the idea of cutting back the number of forces on the korean peninsula, but calling off joint military exercises in the region. >> can you be specific about what assurances you are willing to give to kim jong-un? does that include r milita capabilities? >> we're not reducing anything. i want to get our soldiers out. i want to bring our soldiers we will be stopping the war games which will save us a tremendous amount of money. we have right now 32,000 soldiers in south korea. and i'd like to beaible able tg them back home.