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thanks for being with us on a busy day. it does it for this edition of andrea mitchel reports. follow us online on facebook and twitter. craig melvin is up next on msnbc. slow news day. >> yeah. right? >> nothing happening. >> good afternoon, andrea. craig melvin here at msnbc head quarters in new york city. we start with the breaking news. headed to jail. president trump's former campaign chairman paul manafort will wait for his trial locked up. a judge just revoked his bail, prosecuters claim he tried to tamper with potential witnesses in his own case. plus outright lies. the president of the united states clearly emboldened in a breathtaking performance at the white house. he talked to reporters from more than an hour selling mischaracterizations, provable falsehoods and bold-faced lies. and invoking the bible.
two trump administration officials used scripture to defend an immigration policy that separates children from their parents. a man of the cloth who knows the bible well says that's garbage. we'll get to that in a moment. we start with paul manafort going to jail. a judge ordered president trump's former campaign chairman taken into custody. prosecuters accused manafort of witness tampering while he was awaiting trial on other charges. he had been on home detention wearing an ankle monitor awaiting the trial in addition to the witness tampering charges, manafort has previously been charged with braank fraud, obstruction of justice and other crimes by robert mueller as well. manafort has pled not. president trump a few hours ago playing down his relationship with manafort. >> manafort has nothing to do with our campaign. but i feel -- i feel a little badly about it.
they went back 12 years to get things he did 12 years ago. paul manafort worked for me for a very short period of time. >> we get details now from pete williams and ken delaney. ken, what did that judge say and do we know where paul manafort is right now? >> reporter: the judge said essentially that paul manafort was a danger to the community. not in the sense of committing violence in the sense of being a threat to the justice system. they got a grand jury to indict him on tampering this witnesses. he pled guilty. the judge said at one point it's not middle school. i can't take your phone away. manafort had previously defied a court order by writing an app ed. she discussed that moment and said look, i have no choice, essentially but to detain you pending trial.
the federal martials will only say he's in custody. he may still be in the courthouse. i was told by a source he will eventually be transferred to a local jail today. that could be in aleck sain was d.c. it depends on where the space is. he'll be in a concrete jail cell tonight. >> what was his demeanor like in court? did paul manafort say anything? >> he did not. interestingly our producer tells us that he didn't react, and he sort of gave a lawywave to his lawyer and wife. it almost seemed he was prepared for this. courthouse observers are surprised by this move by the judge. people told us they did not expect this to happen at the beginning of the day, but it has happened. >> mr. williams, what does this mean for the investigation going forward? >> well, the question is will it change paul manafort's mind
about his approach to this case? he has been on a strict, aggressive policy of fighting these charges every step of the way. he faces two sets of charges, one in washington where the judge ordered him held today, and another one in virginia, and he has fought it every step of the way, shown no interest at all in cooperating with mueller. the question now is will he change his mind about that? could the prospect of sitting in a jail cell now for at least a month while he waits for trial in virginia, which is scheduled to start july 25th, and after that several more movnlts while he waits for the trial to start in washington in september september, could that time in jail change his mind and realize this isn't going to come out so well maybe? it happens. it's a reasonable question to ask, because it's not theoretical. we've seen it happen before. not only in criminal cases that involve allegations of violent crime but also in cases like this of so-called white collar
crime where defendants do have a change of heart. so i think that's the main question. in terms of the investigation itself, unless he chooses to plead, it won't change things at all. his lawyers say it makes it harder for them to defend the charges when they've got two trials ahead of them and he's going to be in jail, but a lot of defense lawyers have to deal with that. that's the main -- that's the main potential difference. is he now going to change his mind? >> justice correspondent pete williams for us in washington. and ken delaney as well outside the federal courthouse. thank you to you both. have a good weekend. natasha is an msnbc contributor. daniel goldman, and danny cevallos. this is an all star team to help us with this. natasha, you just wrote about this. what does this mean for robert mueller's investigation going forward and what is the signal
that mueller and his team appear to be sending to paul manafort? >> well, prosecuters are probably very happy right now that they have managed to revoke paul manafort's bail. this is going to make it much more likely that he ends up cooperating with the government. but it also is just a sign of how much it's not really the crime here. it's the coverup. i mean, whether it's george p papadopoulos or others. all these players, michael flynn. they all are in trouble with the feds for essentially trying to cover up their crimes. for essentially trying to basically lying to the fbi for paul manafort, it was about witness tampering. it was about writing an op ed when he first got arrested to kind of shore up his image even though it was a court gag order. this is strike two for him. it's a signal to anyone else who chooses or who may choose to lie to the government that they should think twice about this because they could end up going to jail like paul manafort or
this witness. >> danny, we like to give credit where it's due. and you called it. i think you predicted here on air maybe two days ago that this was likely going to happen. at this point, why wouldn't paul manafort cooperate with the special counsel's office? what reason or reasons would he have not to start situationingia bird? >> he may just want to go to trial. maybe one of the clients that thinks i can beat this. i know how to get myself out of this problem. my lawyers don't get it. i know the truth. or there's another possibility. he may simply have nothing to offer prosecuters. and that may mean that only he's being charged with what he did years before he joined the campaign, and obviously, for what he did for witness tampering after the campaign. and i think it would surprise a lot of people if ultimately maybe the u.s. attorneys are just not that interested in what he's offering. if he's offering anything at
all. and maybe he knows that going forward. but in terms of calling it, this was a foregone conclusion. i wish i could take credit for being a foreseer. the law is clear. a rebuttable presumption arises when you're on pretrial release and you commit a new crime. and all they have to show is probable cause. it's made a lot easier by the fact that a grand jury already found probable cause that he may have committed witness tampering. >> here's the question. paul manafort, presumably a reasonably smart guy. reasonably smart people don't reach out to witnesses using a cell phone and wearing an ankle monitor restricted to their home. what does that tell you about paul manafort's state of mind and if the feds don't have anything on him, why would he behave like he did? >> well, it's very complicated, and it took me a long time to -- as a prosecuter, to start to understand the psyche of someone
like paul manafort who is alleged to have committed crimes for over a decade. when we sit here, we can't really understand the rationalization that goes on in his head where he believes that in some way, shape, or form, that what he's doing is either okay or justified. and someone who's been doing that for ten years is similar to someone who would be the gall to reach out to witnesses, he essentially thinks he's above the law that he's not going to be caught, that he can get away with it, and it's not how you or i view the real world. he's not a rational thinker as someone who has committed crimes for this long of the white collar variety in particular. >> any criminal defense attorney out there can tell you, there is a certain variety of client that doesn't see the irony of the fact that they think they have all the answers. they have an explanation for everything, and yet, it's their own decisions that brought them to the point that they got
indicted or arrested or charged with a crime. you may know family members like that. we all know people, somebody from college who was always getting in trouble and never really understood, always had an explanation that was completely innocent. >> it was never their fault. >> it may not be the way we do things, but those people are out there. >> the assertion that the president continues to make that paul manafort, he was small potatoes on the campaign. only on the campaign for 45 days, whatever he says. what do we know about that claim? >> it's completely not true. paul manafort was key to the campaign as the most important moment of the election. he helped to wrangle the delegates. he was there throughout the entire period when russia's election interference was ramping up and actually happening. i mean, right after paul manafort got there was when he e-mailed his long-time russian associate who also has been indicted by the special counsel who paul manafort was also still
in contact with as recently as april of this year. he said how can we use my campaign position to get whole with the russians. paul manafort was key to the campaign. ivanka trump and jared kushner were especially keen on having him there. they thought he could really help. after he left the campaign in late august, his deputy, rick gates who has been indicted by the special counsel and is cooperating was still there. he was still there through the transition. clearly these were two key feg yurs at the campaign and the transition team were not eager to get rid of even after it came out that manafort had shady business ties to ukraine. >> the president continues to see something he knows not to be true. >> right, and this is something we've seen before. with george papadopoulos, he was just a coffee boy. >> or three hours ago for about an hour straight as well. >> with the ig report? >> right. >> we'll get to it in a moment.
i want to go back to something. the president was asked about this this morning as well. the idea that he could theoretically pardon paul manafort. is that something that the president could do at any time? >> look, it's not established the minutes of the presidential pardon power have never been tested in the way that we are discussing now. what that would essentially mean is that he is pardoning someone who may be, and this is a critical speculation at this point, who may be a co-conspirator of himself. that's using the power for personal gain, and not other public reason. the problem is it's historically something the president has unfettered access to use. bill clinton pardoned someone who his wife had given him a lot of money. these things can be used in some sort of a favor type-thing. this is a real stretch. but it brings up the bigger point here that i think needs to
be included in the manafort question. all of this relates to money laundering, bank fraud, tax crimes that he was committing from 2005 to 2017, according to his indictments. he's also under investigation for collusion. we know that from rod rosenstein's letter, and that investigation continues. and that's something that has to be considered as we consider what paul manafort is going to do here. it may not make any sense for him to plead guilty now to these charges if he's going to be charged with more crimes. >> manafort is sitting in a jail cell for the next few terms. what does it do? >> it makes life very difficult, and it really puts the pressure on a client if they're sitting in pretrial detention and not out where they can assist their lawyer better. otherwise the lawyer has to get in a car or take the train to the detention center, wait in line, and that's the only time they get to talk to their client except maybe phone calls. life gets harder when you're in
detention and it becomes harder to defend your case, and ultimately if the government to looking to force a plea deal or nontrial disposition or even cooperation, if the government wants that, this is the way to do it. >> if you're michael cohen and you're watching this play out, you think what? >> michael cohen has a whole host of problems. the southern district investigation. we now know that mueller is still looking at him in connection to some of his january 2017 interactions with russian oligarchs or people connected with him. he has to decide how he's going to proceed. if i'm michael cohen and i know that there's a lot of criminal conduct that they're looking at, i cooperate. that's the way you get out of this mess with as little damage as possible. >> and it's better for cohen to cooperate now than it would be for someone like manafort who is already well along. earlier is better if you're looking to cooperate with the u.s. attorneys, because they are incredibly stingy when it comes
to deals. sorry, dan. that's the way they are. the government -- >> i know. they drive a hard bargain. >> enjoy the weekend. thank you all. president trump, spent more than an hour with the press this morning. he lied. he made some downright jaw dropping claims like this one on north korea. >> he's the head of a country, and i mean, he is the strong head. don't let anyone think anything different. he speaks and his people sit up at attention. i want my people to do the same. also, trade war. president trump just announced new tariffs on china. no surprise, china is fighting back. the goods that could cost all of us a little bit more because of the escalating battle. hijacking earth's geothermal energy supply.
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we are at war this friday. a trade war. that's the word from china. they are accusing the united states of launching the trade war. president trump announced he is slapping a 25% tariff on chinese technology imports worth roughly $50 billion. >> we're just going to do $50 billion on $50 billion of high-technology equipment and other things coming into the country. because so many of our secrets, we have the great brain power in silicon valley, and china and others steal those secrets and those are crown jewels for this country.
we're going to protect those secrets. >> the new tariffs are going to target nuclear reactors and spacecraft among other things. david is here with me. this is what the president of the u.s. chamber of commerce said in a statement. this is his reaction. the tariffs places the cost of china's unfair trading practices on the shoulders of farmer and ranchers and american consumers. this is not the right approach. how is all of this going to affect consumer like this. >> you look at what's targeted. is,000 items -- 1,000 items. those things can get more expensive. if this trade war continues. if there continues to be a back and forth, we could see the chinese targeting agriculture and manufactured goods from the u.s. things we pay for could go up. i want to go back to something
president trump said there. he's targeting china right now because of concerns about intellectual property. what he cares about is the trade deficit. the strategy is confusing, and i think consumers could pay the price if the white house tries to figure out the consequences of what it's doing. >> china responded in part, we will immediately introduce taxati taxation measures of the same scale and strength. again, you know, not to engage in hyperbole, is this a trade war? >> i talked to a trade expert who headed up the china division, he wrote me back, yeah, tariffs, retaliation and signs of further escalation amount to a trade war in my book. i asked another expert about how he defines a trade war. he said it's escalating tit for
tat tariffs outside of the trading world. you heard the president saying tariffs at $50 billion. china's was in the same amount. those who say we're not in a trade war argue it's when countries do things without thinking of how they operate in this giant structure of the pto -- wto, the global system. the consensus seems to be if we're not there, we're seeing the rhetoric continue to heat up and seeing these moves. >> david, glad you stopped by to help us try to make sense of this. what time is your show? >> 2 p.m. next saturday. >> next time you get a full screen with your mug shot. thank you, sir. the president dubbed the united states, emboldened at the white house. we're going to fact check the claims he made point by point, at least with the allotted time that we have here during the hour.
white house lawn for an interview with his favorite network quickly turned into this bizarre wide ranging impromptu press conference. one in which the president continued to make numerous false claims on some truly pressing issues. let's separate fact from fiction with mark murray now. mark, the president today was asked about the justice department's inspector general's report. take a listen to what he said. >> i think that the report yesterday maybe more importantly than anything totally exonerates me. there was no collusion. there was no obstruction, and if you read the report, you'll see that. i think that the mueller investigation has been totally discredited. >> mark? what say you? >> yeah, craig. i ended up looking at the 500-page report that the i.g. released yesterday. it was about the hillary clinton e-mail investigation from 2016. not the current mueller probe on
the russia's interference and the ties to the trump campaign in 2016. and where president trump is probably referring to are some anti-trump text messages between a pair of fbi officials and agents that ended up having key roles on both the clinton e-mail investigation and also into the russia probe. but as kind of when it comes to the facts of being cleared of collusion, there was nothing from the i.g. report that said that. >> let's turn to north korea. president trump has gotten a lot of criticism over whether the united states actually got anything out of the deal. this is one of the things that the president says we are getting right now. >> he gave us the remains of our great heros. i have had so many people begging me, parents, and fathers, mothers, daughters, sons, wherever i went, could you please get the remains of my boy back? they're giving them back. nobody thought that was possible. >> the president there referring
to the korean war, we think. does that make any sense? >> it only makes sense if maybe he's talking about certainly people who lived to be more than 100 years old, craig. the korean war took place between 1950 and 1953. if you do the math and someone who ended up dying at the age of 20 in 1953 and was born to parents who had him when they were 20 years old, that parent would have to be more than 100 years old, and the idea of the president having a conversation with them during the campaign on bringing their boy's remains back seems a little bit implausible. >> just a smidge implausible. there also continues to be, as you know, mark, growing outrage this week over separated families at the border, especially with reports that this number is surging. this is what the president said about that. >> i hate the children being taken away. the democrats have to change their law.
that's their law. that's the democrat's law. we can change it tonight. we can change it right now. >> you're the president -- >> i will leave her -- no, you need their votes. you need their votes. >> what's he talking about? >> he's talking about trump administration policy. there isn't a law in the books that forces the separation of migrants between the parents and children. but this was policy that attorney general jeff sessions ended up announcing back in may in arizona to basically thwart what he said was illegal immigration. and then you had it backed up by john kelly who said this was a day to deter illegal immigration into the country, and i guess the president is po trying to make this into a negotiating tactic by blaming democrats. the truth isn't there. >> mark, thank you for trying to help us make sense of it there. charlie psychs is a contributing editor and msnbc contributor. and dana millbank is with us as
well. charlie, just a few moments ago president trump doing what he is proned to do, tweeting. he tweeted this related to our last topic. the democrats are forcing the breakup of families at the border with their horrible and cruel legislative agenda. any immigration bill must have full funding for the wall, and in catch and release, visa lottery and chain and go to merit-based immigration. go for it. win, all caps, exclamation point. charlie, why is president trump blaming democrats? i mean, that's just the beginning of it. there's a lot in that tweet that isn't true. and quite frankly, doesn't make any sense. what's he trying to do? >> well, he's trying to deflect responsibility. as one of our colleagues told me, fact checking the president today feels like paying into a hurricane. there's so much misinformation here. look, the policy on the border
is calculated cruelty. i think dana described it. he's also losing this argument about the separation of the families. you're starting to see some erosion on the part of christian evangelicals who have been willing to go along with him all along. what the president is doing is what he often does. he tries to project responsibility onto someone else rather than owning what he is doing. but his administration's policy, you know, his administration's policy rather than being family friendly is basically based on let's be as cruel as possible to children in order to deter them and i think he's caught up in the political toils of that now. >> and the president also saying that he's not going to sign any sort of immigration compromise if it doesn't include full funding for his border wall. i would imagine that legislative
leaders have told president trump that's not going to happen. so is the president essentially saying no comprehensive immigration reform? i'm done with it. the issue is over? >> well, he's saying that and essentially he's saying i'm not going to accept a legislative fix for the separating of families at the border, because that's what the house republicans had been negotiating with the white house. that was in this provision. they're very nervous about it, and for understandable reasons. the president can say this is because of some democratic law, but the american people aren't stupid. they recognize this is something that has just happened in the last month or so. it's happened because of this zero tolerance policy of this administration. there has been no new law passed. the only conceivable explanation is that it is the way that this administration is interpreting the law. >> why not just -- why lie about it? why -- why not lie about it? why not say what charlie said. you know what? we're going to be a lot tougher
than we have been, and we know these images are going to be tough to bear, but we're doing it to deter other folks. why tell lie after lie for days on end and hope people aren't going to notice? >> well, craig, you're essentially questioning the trump administration. take his discussion of the i.g. report. there was a fine case to make about what the report did that was helpful to him. instead he created a fanciful thing that was instead, exonerating him in the russia probe, that it wasn't even looking into. it's not clear why the president does what he's going to do. often in these chase cases he's trying to muddy the waters. you saw it with the dreamers. he said he put them in jeopardy of deportation and said it's on the democrats. i think he's gone to the well a few times too often and there's no way conceivable that anybody would be blaming the democrats for what is very obviously a policy of this administration, which in other contexts like
what the travel ban on muslim majority countries has said we have absolute discretion in how we implement our immigration laws. >> one of the justifications that's been used, although this kind of started in earnest yesterday, maybe the day before, the bible. i want to play something for our viewers who may have missed this. this is sarah suck bhuckabee sa and jeff sessions explaining. >> i would cite you to apostle paul and his clear and wise command in romans 13 to obey the laws of the government because god is ordained the government for his purposes. >> i can say that it is very biblical to enforce the law. that is actually repeated a number of times throughout the bible. >> i want to go back to romans 13, the senator -- excuse me, that mr. sessions was quoting there. let everyone be subject to the
governing authorities. for those no authority except for what that which good has established. i tried to read that in my southern baptist voice. it's an infamous passage used to justify many things, including slavery and apartheid in south afri africa. how can he use that? was that an attempt to try and maybe the base, maybe the religious -- what was that? >> yeah. maybe it was a response to that, but it was incredibly tone deaf. as you point out, that passage as a really shady historical track record there going back as you mentioned, back into the revolutionary war where the loyalists used that. the slave holders. it is obscene. if there's any good news about this, that maybe people will go back and look at the rest of the
new testament, read the rest of the letters of paul, the message of the gospel, even the invocations in leviticus to take care of strangers. you look at that and you go, really? of this cruel separation of children from your parents. you're actually going to try to hide behind biblical authority. i think that's going to backfire badly, but it was not a good moment for jeff sessions, and it was really not a good moment for the white house to try to back that up. because you know what? a lot of americans actually do know what is in the bible, and do know what jesus christ said about treating children and what the old testament said about strangers and all of this. and jeff sessions, again, i think invoked one of the ugliest chapters of misuse. >> in a morning filled with w p
whoppe whoppers, the president started talking about the annexing of crim crimea. this is what he said about what really went down in crimea. >> president obama lost crimea. yeah. it's his fault. yeah. it's his fault. president obama lost crimea because president putin didn't respect president obama. >> so to be clear, dana, president's essentially saying that president obama's responsible for the annexation. that's why the g7 should readmit moscow. but he's obviously overlooking the fact that it was vladimir putin that invaded the peninsula. what do you make of that? >> well, i think it should be voted that this is only his explanation today. there were reports just yesterday of what he had said at the g7 was justifying the russia invasion of ukraine, because the people all there speak russian. that's like saying russia has dominion over people anywhere
who eat borsht. it made no sense. i think he should stick to one of these things and go with that. >> all right. we'll have to leave it there. you'll come back with me in a few minutes. we'll try to make sense of a few other things. getting ready for 2020, may sound like a simple headline. the democrats have set a date for their party's 2020 convention. there's a lot of strategy and gamesmanship behind why. we'll talk it through with one of the first reporters to break that story. plus defending epa administrator scott pruitt. president trump standing by his man even as we're getting even more reporting on this friday about how scott pruitt got some tickets to see his home state football team play in the rose bowl. thing says summer like a beach trip,
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the manafort matter since the bail was revoked. wow, what a tough sentence for
paul manafort who has represented ronald reagan, bob dole and many other top political people and campaigns. didn't know manafort was the head of the mob. what about comey and crooked hillary and
all of the others? very unfair. exclamation point. that tweet coming from the president of the united states just a few moments ago in response to paul manafort being sent to jail. perhaps more from the president here throughout the course of the afternoon. let's pivot for a moment, though. we now know when the 2020 democrat national convention is going to happen. it's happening earlier than expected. jake sherman, one of the first guys to break the story. what do we know, sir? why was it moved up? >> the goal with any convention is to grab the mind share of the american people. get their candidate in front of the american people in a time period they don't have any interruptions. that's the democrat's goal here. they're doing it in mid july,
2020, before the olympics which is carried here on nbc. i sound like a spokesman, and basically that's the goal here. to get it in a window where they don't have any other interruption. they're going to be facing most likely an incumbent president. that would be an important thing to have the mind share of a lot of people. >> mid july. and we appreciate the olympic plug, by the way. how might republicans respond or do we anticipate there will be a response? >> unclear. most times these conventions are close to back to back. they're in tandem. the olympics could play a part in that. i want to bring up one other thing with the democratic party. we should all watch this heading into 2020. there's been a move at the dnc to change the super delegate process and who exactly is a superdelegate. and tom perez, the head of the
dnc has sought to diminish the influence of members of congress who has been superdelegates. members of the house and senate feel like they'll be cut of the process and won't have the special sway they've had in the past. so this is something we should really keep an eye on even though we are two years away from the convention. candidates are going to be out there doing their thing pretty soon. they're going to want to meet with important delegates, especially superdelegates. that's something we need to keep an eye on as we get closer to the 2020 campaign. >> thank you for the update on that breaking news. we don't have a location for the dnc convention. i can tell you the 2020 olympics are in tokyo. scott pruitt, football tickets. also an attempt to get his daughter an internship at the white house. with more calls for proout to accept -- pruitt to step down,
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from a public relations executive based in his home state of oklahoma. the executive has a large energy practice. add this to the staggering list of scandals dogging scott pruitt. just two days ago it was revealed he had a top aide contact republican donors to help his wife land a job with a conservative political group. remember that $50 a night sweetheart deal for a lobbyist condo in washington, d.c. or, perhaps you recall the $43,000 soundproof phone booth that was installed in his office for privacy. nonetheless, president trump standing by his guy. >> scott's done a fantastic job at epa. but you know -- i'm not happy about certain things. >> is his job safe? >> i'm not happy about certain things but he's done a fantastic job running the epa which is very overriding. >> back with me now, charlie sykes, contributing editor for "the weekly standard."
dana milbank, political columnist for "the washington post." charlie, a new headline just about every day regarding scott pruitt, the epa administrator's seemingly bizarre conduct, if not unethical, sometimes maybe even perhaps illegal. more than a dozen investigations into his behavior. charlie sykes, why would president trump still be backing scott pruitt? >> by the way, i still can't get over the fact that he wanted that used mattress from the trump hotel. who wants a used mattress from a hotel! you used two words that i think are very appropriate. one is the staggering list of scandals involving scott pruitt. and also how bizarre it is that president trump keeps standing by him. a lot of aides, even cabinet members, have been let go for less than this. you are actually starting to see a shift where other conservatives are recognizing, look, this guy is actually undermining your agenda. when you start to see national
review magazine, weekly standard, laura ingraham, a lot of other conservatives basically saying, look, we may like his policies, but don't you understand that he is basically the ultimate swamp creature in an administration that's supposed to be draining the swamp. i mean who is swampier than scott pruitt? other than maybe the president himself. >> this is how scott pruitt defended his behavior when he testified on capitol hill. but we should note, this defense was before at least a dozen new accusations of misconduct emerged. but here was his defense back then. >> much of what has been targeted toward me and my team has been half truths or at best, stories that have been so twisted they do not resemble reality. i'm here and i welcome the chance to be here to set the record straight in these areas. but let's have no illusions about what is really going on here. those who attack the epa and attack me are doing so because they want to attack and derail the president's agenda and undermine this separation's pad
priorities. >> pruitt had at least three epa staffers work to help his daughter get a summer internship at the white house. one aide said they were constantly fielding requests like this. i would imagine helping your daughter get an internship is probably not that unusual in the beltway. why does this one in particular kos the line? and why wouldn't a guy like sprout just pick up the phone and say, hey, buddy, can you help my daughter get a job there? why are you having aides do it? >> because he was busy getting his wife the job at chick-fil-a. there's only so many things you can be doing at once here. his other aides were busy with the sirens on going to the ritz-carlton seeking the perfume lotion that he was seeking. it is extraordinary, the logic of keeping him on would be one that he would have a lot of difficulty getting somebody else concerned. and two, that he's effective.
but it is really hard to imagine that there is not some other conservative in america who would like to take this same lenient approach to environmental enforcement who can essentially not enforce the laws just as well as scott pruitt could do but wouldn't cause them so much of a headache. the deputy administrator would seem would be perfectly capable of doing this. the president is dug in on this. it is extraordinary. it is a rare day when there isn't something else that has come out. but i suspect we're in for some more. >> dana milbank, thanks so you. charlie sykes, thanks to you as well. a tweet from the president a few moments ago. really quickly, note something. this is president trump tweeting about paul manafort, his former campaign chairman, a judge a few hours ago revoking bail, sending him to jail. what a tough sentence for paul manafort. he wasn't sentenced today. that wasn't a sentence. that might come if he's
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while suffering a diabetic episode. while he was receiving medical attention some evil guy jacked his groceries. when the officer heard the man could not afford to buy more grea groceries, guess what? she did. there you go. that wraps up this hour of msnbc live. katy tur standing by to pick things up. i'll see you tomorrow morning on today. >> i have nothing nice to say about that thief and everything nice to say about that officer. what an amazing story. >> there is goodness in the world. we don't get to highlight a lot of it, but there is a lot of goodness. >> happy to hear it. craig melvin. i'm going to give a commencement speech this weekend. >> where are you going to do this commencement speech? >> uc santa barbara. my college. i am an alumni. >> good luck. it is 11:00 a.m. out west and 2:00 p.m. in washington, d.c. where the president's campaign chairman is now going to jail and the president himself had a really tough time with the truth this morning.