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now. we have a big show tonight. the words i'm about to report are truly unusual even for an unusual year. paul manafort is in jail right now. a judge decided with bob mueller to find that manafort has been credibly accused of obstruction of justice meaning he's too dangerous to be allowed to remain free awaiting his trial. number one, this former campaign chief for the president of the united states is slated to be incarcerated until his trial begins. number two, if paul manafort is convicted and sentenced to the maximum punishment that would mark, that would mark the first day of a lifetime behind bars. there are alternatives as well. one is that paul manafort could be found not guilty and thus get out of jail term he starts tonight. another alternative is he could cooperate, get a lighter sentence. that brings us to another potential defendant in the
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mueller probe. sources close to michael cohen and saying this to reporters meaning someone wants this to get out that cohen may cooperate and flip on donald trump. one reason why, there's new reports of the feds getting their haends on new evidence an over 700 panls that cohen tried to keep secret by using encrypted messaging apps as well as documents he tried to hide by shredding them. 16 pages of those document vs been put together after being pulled from a shredder. they have been reconstructed. wow. legal experts have noted how cohen's inept shredding could come back to haunt him. his very opponent in the stormy daniels says that skimping on a
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good shredder. >> you have to buy a cross cut. you can't be cheap. >> they're not that expensive. >> the news tonight. this is not normal. this is not normal news nights that we say this but the feds have pieced together the shredding that the president's lawyer tried to do. they have that evidence for a criminal case. today cohen's own lawyers are asking for ten more days to review the encrypted messages part of this before the prosecutors have them for whatever they want to do with them. futile attempts at cryptic messaging is what links cohen and manafort tonight. bob mueller alleges he did his witness tampering via encrypted messaging. t the junl said while there's no appetite to jail him, using the phone was unacceptable. as to whether she could limit his communications technology and leave him out on bail as he
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requested, the judge said this is not middle school. i can't take way his cell phone. jail is obviously one of the worst places on earth to prepare for a complex criminal trial. by confiscating paul manafort's phone and personal property, the court system is helping him in way because it's removing one of the tools mueller says manafort used to commit new crimes. as a legal strategy, mueller is operating on the premise this will protect the probe and reflects bob mueller's confidence that he must have enough evidence on manafort. as paul manafort, a 69-year-old man with all kinds of political experience and global travels as he spends first night of his life in jail tonight, and as
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michael cohen tells associates he is bracing for potential arrest and considering cooperating, bob mueller is clearly sending a message about obstruction and evidence to any other would be criminal witnesses or any other would be obstructers who think they can pull one over on the special counsel. the message to channel the romantics is clear, i can hear the secrets that you keep when you're talking in your sleep. to update that line for 2018, sleep on bob mueller at your own peril. there is a lot to discuss.
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joyce, what does i met mean to tonight that paul manafort sleeps in a cell? >> to the extent that mueller is sending a message, the message is he will not atolerate people who lie to federal agents or otherwise interfere in prosecutions. we have seen the earlier prosecutions for lying to agents. now we see this prosecution for obstruction which happened incredibly quickly. this will go to mueller's core belief that the criminal justice system is about finding the truth in a courtroom, determining a defendant's guilt or innocence consistent with those principles and anyone who tries to interfere with that process should be dealt with as sternly as possible. as a result, manafort finds himself in jail pending trial tonight. >> nelson, the big question in washington is what happens now that people of this significance in this trump campaign and
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donald trump's world, personal business and otherwise, are facing this kind of heat? we talk a lot about inflection points. this is an inflection point in the sense we haven't seen anyone this high profile jailed. paul manafort is in jail. it's the kind of thing you can't say enough and if you think about other people that filled his role, if one imagined a david axelrod in the obama era in jail, it reminds you we're not living in normal times. one of the things that's up for debate is whether paul manafort knows something or has something of interest to the special counsel probe. here is how donald trump has talked about it. >> what have you learned about donald trump since you started working for him that you didn't know before? >> i've known him to be flexible, driven. >> paul manafort has done an amazing job opinion. >> i've known him since the 1980s. we talked about it and he felt i
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could help him. >> paul had great success with reagan and bush and with ford. great success. he didn't need to do this but he wanted to. >> he wanted to. do you see this as only bad news for manafort or for trump as we well? >> today could be up with of the biggest days in the investigation so far in the steps of manafort going to jail and the cohen document review being completed oond t ed and t documents being found. 69 yeerzars old. he's looking at the rest of his life behind bars. the underlying counts of which he's already charged are lay up counts. any prosecutor could prove that case in a week. he's facing in d.c. and in virginia. he knows he's going to face the rest of his life in jail. you add on top of that tampering with witnesses and any judge will throw the book at him.
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he has one choice. he has two things that might get li him out of jail. one is cooperating with fuelmue and finding a way to help him complete the investigation and the second is a hail mary pass from the bpardon of the president. >> which is something we can get into. we can play a little who said it. who do you think said today didn't know manafort was the head of the mob? >> i don't know who said that. trump said he claim not to barely know manafort. >> he might barely know him but he knows enough to say that. i'll read you the entire context. what a tough sentence for manafort who represented reagan, dole. didn't know he was the head of the mob. what do you think about the relationship between these two men tonight? one in the white house and the other in the slammer. >> manafort knows everything
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that trump is in trouble for. manafort was his campaign manager. manafort was the master mind that set this up. manafort knows politics inside out. trump doesn't. manafort know exactly how much collaboration there was with the russians because he knows the russians inside out and made tens of millions of dollars with russians. some accused of laundering which i think is true. this is pretty significant. >> sam, you're the only person on the panel who has been in mueller's jury room. >> he dictated tweets. are you more proud of the ghost writing or dictating? >> ghost writing. >> this is a significant night. you obviously cooperating. mueller view back by a judge is that manafort did not only cooperate but committed a new crime. based an your direct interaction
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with this mueller team and this investigato investigators, what do you think happen next for paul? do you think they have more on him or can they win the case? >> i think the case is pretty much in terms of money laundering or whatever they're calling it, that could seem, i'm not a profgessional. it seems easy to prove. is this going to hurt donald trump if the democrats win in november and the impeaecach goe through the house and the senate. >> you say impeachment, we're not near that. >> i think mueller is going to write a report. donald trump will be impeached and he will be impeached if they -- >> do you think it's possible mueller could write a report that says a lot of people did bad things but he doesn't see an impeachable offense by the
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president? >> no. i think mueller is on a vende a vendetta. >> with him being a republican fbi -- >> that doesn't matter. they always go back with that. let me explain to you. james comey is technically a republican. john mccain is technically a republican. >> do you mean literally? >> they spent their public life as registered republicans. >> they decided note to vote. they say they voted for mitt romney but they stuck out and didn't vote on that past election. by the way, james comey number two andrew mccabe -- >> we're not doing that. now you're just bringing up other stuff. let's stay on this and go to michael cohen who you know and you've spoken about here. why are we hearing so much about michael cohen? >> i think he's 100% communicating through the press. i think he's probably -- if i had to guess. i don't know and i wouldn't know. he's even talking to reporters on background with them.
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it's something that's done in this world where they take somebody -- >> you read this as not people around cohen. you read this as cohen leaks. >> there's been a lot out there. it was a commodity with us with donald trump directly. george interviewed donald trump in singapore at the summit. a day later or two days later michael cohen, george has a breaking news report that michael cohen may be flipping and not sticking with his attorney. she has a quote saying we have an agreement. we don't hear anything about these legal fees. i think michael's view is i'll go the distance. let's see how this case goes. i know i'm getting indictmented but you have to pay my legal fees. >> howard, what do you think of
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sam's analysis which is based on primary source knowledge that we're hearing about cohen cooperating in very strategic ways. this is cohen's last attempt. >> i'm not familiar with the intricacies of trump world but that makes a lot of sense. this is a signal. they can't communicate directly in is a signal from cohen that trump's got to pardon limb him else. >> this is where it gets tricky because if you wanted to pardon someone if they have enough liability for other state crimes and there's someone cooperating in upstate new york, then it could backfire. for joyce, take a listen. this is a trump lawyer. this is not a trump critic speaking to me exclusively. take a listen. >> if he pardons michael choen and michael cohen thereafter
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gets indicted by the state for misconduct, trump's pardon of the cohen for federal offenses will be looked upon as a grave error. >> joyce. >> it's not just a grave error, it doesn't give the president the sort of legal protection that presumably as he is seeking as they dangle these federal pardons. yesterday we saw the new york state ag file a civil case but that civil case contains a lot of interesting information about potential criminal prosecutions. although the state ag has made a referral to federal agencies and those prosecutions could be, i'll just say cured with pardon from the president, there are also pending state criminal charges. those are something the president can't pardon his way out of. yesterday we saw paul manafort's
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pred ses sor on the campaign, the president's children. as much as there could be federal prosecutions, there could be state criminal cases and there's nothing that the president can do to end those. >> you have the walls closing in on the idea there's stuff out of this president's control. you know how he responds to that. then you have secret contacts. what do you think about cohen has materials that have been shredded and have you gotten encrypted messages from him or others? >> i never got from steve bannon or roger stone. >> what about from michael cohen in. >> i don't think so. i can follow up with you. i don't believe so. i'll tell you what would know. the mueller special counsel because they have everything. >> you got the impression they would know that? >> it doesn't take a genius to
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realize the federal government there's nothing encrypted in this world anymore. >> that was a very big misstep. i think he gave him the excuse to send him to jail. >> if you're michael cohen and you're in the situation in the middle of a probe and you start shredding documents, do you think those would be random documents, blank pieces of paper. that kind of thing or incriminating? >> let's remember he did not know this raid was coming. this raid was a complete surprise to him. that's the way they are conducted. you don't give time to shred documents. >> i would draw your attention to other circumstantial
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information. in the filing they had reason to believe he was gunning to -- beginning to destroy evidence and that's part of why they moved. >> that's why they moved. >> the feds have been hitting hard. if they're going to move on quickly to make sure they can find out what's in there and see what they have. these documents could be turned over to mueller's team. >> exactly. it's a lot on a big night. thanks to the entire panel. appreciate it. coming up, how manafort did use other secretive tactics that have been associated with drug cartels and even terrorists to try to, yes, keep communication secret. didn't work.
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an important story we're staying on. the human toll of the child migrant crisis. we have an interview for a lawyer whose mom was taken from her while interest feeding. trump's new claim about whiep he is celebrating kids from their parents. >> mr. president, is it humane to separate children from their families? >> that's the democrats doing that. >> the democrats forced that law upon our nation. >> that is a lie. we know it's a lie and i have the proof tonight and why it matters. all that plus donald trump saying he want to be more like, guess who, kim jong-un. if you've had a busy week, there will be time for fall back friday later tonight. mom and dad got a new car.
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: truly significant breaking news. donald trump former campaign chair. and there's a new basaccusation that paul manafort used techniques drafted by al qaeda. you can share with others to access information and it's never an actual piece of e-mail. this is on top of other big questions about ties to russia. >> are there any ties between mr. trump, you or your campaign and putin and his regime? >> no, there are not. it's absurd. >> joining me now, someone who has known paul manafort for deck
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the ka -- decades. the significance of this news tonight, howard and given your knowledge of mr. manafort who is known for many things recklessness, sure. i think that's been demonstrated but a type of toughness, his allies say. how do you think that will be tested as he spends his first night in jail tonight? >> i think it will be a long, dark night of the soul for paul manafort. he's been pretty lucky in a fairly dangerous legal life that he's led. he chose to go early from american politics into the international realm. he's done business around the world with some very tough characters. in the philippines, with saudi princes. with ukraine dictators.
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a lot of tough sort of star wars bar type people all around the world. he's never really had to face up to this type of consequence. the fact that you're in a cold, hard jail cell, this is a guy who once told me how wonderful it is to travel along the coast of lake como and stop at all the great palaces and wineries and so forth. >> sounds nice. >> he developed very nice, very refined taste. he had horses out on long island. his wife is a show jumper. >> my understanding is not everyone who goes there is accused of laundering $30 million in lake como. >> no. that may have something to do with why he was able to enjoy lake como. it's a lot different from where he's now and where h he's going
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to be. he's got two trials coming up. he'll have to be in that jail cell from now until at least september. even as the trial and federal trial begins in september, he could still be required to stay in jail after that which is terribly wearing mentally and physically. >> they never ask you in jail is red or white. >> any way. i think it's going to be tough. i think he's -- i think he's got some mental toughness there. he would dip into the conventions. if he left after crew yukraine taken the chips off the table and nobody would have heard about him. he wanted to come back for this one thing. i've known at the beginning he
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wanted to be a contender. he wanted to be chief of staff. his original role model was jim baker, chief of staff to gerald ford. >> let me show one thing as we think about all the tentacles which is donald trump saying this is just some guy and i don't know him even though he was number one guy in my campaign. sam who not only worked for donald trump and said he yuusedo write tweets. manafort and stone were running that international controversial lobbying firm that howard just mentioned. stone calling it the s and a word i won't repeat but take a look. >> paul manafort came in one day and said we ought to start a lobbying firm. >> lobbying had been considered a sleazy business but roger stone said i'm going to make a pile of money off of this and no
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apologies. >> manafort and stone was the [ bleep ]. it was the most powerful lobbying operation in washington. >> certainly was. howard would know this better than me. >> how does stone figure in all this watching his former partner go to jail? >> roger and manafort have not worked together in a very, very long time. it's my understanding that firm was bought and it was bought. they sold baker, manafort and stone sold it and they parted their ways but kept in contact with each other and were friends. what howard was talking about in terms of the reason why paul wanted to work on the trump campaign is paul was supposed to run the convention for the mccain campaign and his long time partner dropped paul for the clients or could have been the same clients. >> you're mentioned the people that interned at the same firm,
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there's a lot of people who work together very closely also circling donald trump. what mueller is peeling back on is are these all coincidences or was there a wider conspiracy. was there an election racketeering operation. we don't know that yet. the question is whether that changes his thinking about what he wants to say. >> i don't think so. >> i have to fit in a break. thank you both so much. there's proof that donald trump is lying about this migrant child policy and it's devastating toll including new reports that the feds ripping a baby from a breast-feeding mother. i'll speak live to immigrant rights lawyer about this and give you my fact check on donald trump when we're back in 60 seconds.
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ripped from their parents under these new orders from the trump administration. this is a serious issue. children lives do hang in the balance. donald trump caused this cry issues. he originally took credit for it but now what's changing here where the humanitarian crisis meets the politics is that the heat is so high donald trump is running from what he did. tonight i can report donald trump is lying about his policy which raises the question, mr. president if you're so ashamed now of your policy, if it's heartless, why not halt it instead of lying about it. a factual warning, what i'm about to show you is not true. >> people say look, you rip these families apart even though it's the law. it's heartless. >> that's the law and that's what the democrats gave us. the democrats forced that law upon our nation. i hate it. i hate to see separation of parents and children. >> that's false.
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we know it's a lie because donald trump and his attorney general explicitly created this policy orphaning children. this is important so let's get into it. i'll show you the proof tonight. this is the trump administration memo from this april signed by jeff sessions. this is the proof. what this does, the reason this is happening tonight and this weekend and every day that this policy continues is that the trump administration shifted from a long standing set of policies that prioritized enforcement against immigrants deemed more dangerous and offered more protection for folks who are not considering dangerous as well as for children and families. this new trump policy orders a quote, zero tolerance policy for all offenses and states the zero tolerance policy supercedes the other existing policies i mentioned. meaning the more family oriented policies of past administrations
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in both parties are now out. these are the facts. politicians may deny their own role in creating problems but we have an obligation to report the facts. when the evidence shows politicians are lying we'll report that too. this is a trump policy. these are legally segregated camps for children orphaned by this trump policy. it's not a congressional law that requires it. these are not cities. these are not tent communities. what's the impact? take one case. we'll play a little bit of new audio. this is from inside an immigration courtroom where a mother and if you want to think like a human being, imagine this is a mother you know. if you want, imagine this is your mother. it's any mother because this is any situation that someone could end up in. listen as the mother tries to find out when she'll see her son again. >> well i was told when i was
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separated from my son they were going to tell me when i was going to be joined with my son again. >> i don't know who told you that but you were told incorrectly. i have no information regarding your child. >> that's what's going on. that's one case. one mother, one child. that's the reality. what about how it looks under this administration? in another trump tactic, trump's aides have been focussed more on changing the images of this crisis than the policy on the ground than i was just telling you about. the family separation is continuing while trump aides push this tightly controlled imagery. you can see the video from the administration that tries to depict a safe environment. on the right, we have the reported facts where investigators in only texas, for example, have already found health care problems, mistreatment of children, lack of supervision and a widespread inattention to the government inflicted trauma on children and
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parents alike. i'm joined by texas state senator. a site in his district will be one of the first places they set up these camps. she's spent time with a mother whose baby was taken from her during breast-feeding. one of the stories that's gotten so much attention. can you tell us about that. >> hi. good afternoon. i can tell you that mother's story is one of many that we received in speaking to parents that were separated from their kids. that expressed on behalf of the parent, the trauma experienced by the parent and the child. it's one of many. that's what i can tell you about that story. >> let me play jeff sessions saying that their basically being criticized unfairly take a listen. >> there are politicians and
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activists who think having any border at all, it seerms, any limit, any enforcement activity that's taken is mean spirited, unkind, even bigoted. >> victoria, your response. >> so it's about following the law and if we're following the law then we should not be jailing asylum seekers. we're getting among those peek who are getting sent to federal prisons especially the adults who are separated out from their children are folks who are coming to this country, turning themselves in and saying i'm here for asylum. that is breaking the law. i think a point of clarification here the difference between an economic refugee -- an economic immigrant and humanitarian immigrant. the economic immigrant is coming here because the u.s. keeps the demand up for them and the humanitarian immigrant is fleeing that strife that we hear
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about in central america. that immigrant should be offered the letter of the law in terms of those protections. the immigrant, the adult and their child. we're seeing none of that. >> senator rodriguez, i want to play a little more from inside that courtroom as we try to get what we can. a lot has been deliberately prevented from access by the public, by the press, by members of congress who appear to have some standing. we have been reporting on that. this is new sound of a judge telling this mother why under the trump administration policies she can't hear about where her child is let alone be reunited. >> immigration doesn't call the court or me personally and tell me what happened to your child. if they did do that it, it wouldn't hurt my feelings. i'd be happy to replay that information to you if i could. they don't do that. hopefully somebody will get in touch with you through that side of the government. >> hopefully someone will get in
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touch with you. walk us through being told that about what amounts to a missing child. >> well, ari, what i can tell you is there's been plenty of testimony by pediatricians, by psychiatrists and other health care providers about the tremendous harm that is being caused on these children when they are in detention centers with their parents like they have some here in texas. can you imagine now what it's like for them if they're not with their parents as is happening now under this zero tolerance policy. the harm we're talking about is stunted growth, post-traumatic stress disorder and other mental health conditions that linger, the trauma for years and years into their lives. yes, the problems that this causes tremendous both for the children and the parents, this policy is misguided as victoria
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has pointed out. it's cruel and i think that as americans we should not tolerate this. this is a country where we value freedom, civil rights. where we value the human beings. yet we are now taking a lead in the world as acting as many other cases across the world, in the middle east, north africa and other place where is you have refugees all in encampments, in tent cities and living in miserable conditions. regardless of what trump says, it's obvious he's disregarding not only federal law as was pointed out by victoria for asylum seekers but also international law. the spokesperson for the united nations has indicated this is not a normal way of treating children.
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>> you're nodding. go ahead. >> i am nodding. this is a violation of international human rights law. the way the texas civil rights project got involved was filing a petition on behalf of five parents separated from their kids asking the inter-american commission for human rights to order that they be reunited. exactly in the way that senator rodriguez just described. this is absolutely a violation of rum -- human rights law. >> do you think when people see what's going on, they will see the sickness being perpetrated in the name of the u.s. government? >> yes. that's why we have to keep pushing to get more access. when it's blinded by the doors keeping the media out, keeping non-profit organizations that want to seek to help out these children, we don't have that knowledge to push for these changes. the last couple of days we have
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seen more coverage of this. this is helping in the effort to stop this horrendous heart wrenching process. >> thanks so each of you. we'll stay on the story. up ahead, donald trump talking about what he wishes he had in common with north korea's dictator. what? up next, if it's friday and after a week like this, you bet it's time to fall back together. (vo) from day one, we always came through for our customers. it's how we earned your trust. until... we lost it. today, we're renewing our commitment to you. fixing what went wrong. and ending product sales goals for branch bankers. so we can focus on your satisfaction. it's a new day at wells fargo. but it's a lot like our first day. wells fargo. established 1852. re-established 2018.
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uber has new leadership, a new vision, and is moving in a new direction... forward we recently talked with the deejays from the top rap show in the country hot 927. part of our conversation we haven't aired included ebro's criticism of how he think trump views black athletes.
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>> a reminder how much power you don't have. you have money. but you don't have power. we're giving you some money so that you can do this job and entertain us. use your body like you always have black men to entertain us. but as soon as you want to use your mind and your words to speak out now we all have a problem. >> there's much more of that political discussion we're posting exclusively on our podcast. deejay brought something up, does our show have a music play list. we do. and we talked about that on his radio show. he went over some of the highlights. >> i would also say it's very diverse, everything from kiko bun all the way to james brown, dilated peoples, gang star. dmx is on here. >> a great play list. >> phony people on here. he's doing his new york research there. >> most of you are here for news. if you are into the music, we launched a music play list on
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spotify. check out the beat's play list. you can see some of our favorite artists and guests. for more of the interview, we are posting the entire conversation on the beat on the podcast and we post that every weekend. that's our show. "hardball" starts now. >> manafort goes to jail. let's play "hardball." >> good evening. i'm steve kornacki in for chris matthews. tonight president trump's former campaign chairman, paul manafort is in federal custody and will spend the remainder of his days pending trial in jail. already facing multiple counts of bank fraud, conspiracy and money laundering he arrived at a d.c. courthouse this mor

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