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kids older than five, 30 days and policy on the border has been chaos, the chaos is part of why the judge kids while the u.s. government holds their kids here. now the federal court told the trump white house to fix this immediately, put these families back together now, you are ordered to. now the question is can the administration get that done? could this court order work? it started ticking late last night. but it's a legally binding order. that's time for us. now it's time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell" good evening, lawrence. >> good even, rachel. we're going to have more on that order in a moment. but we'll also have the latest video of a child talking to his mother in guatemala. it's another painful conversation to listen to that has become this uniquely
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american conversation that we're listening in on these parents talking to their children across these borders of these countries. >> amazing. well done, my friend. >> thank you, rachel. >> thanks. >> as rachel pointed out, it only takes one. and this is going to be a different take on how it only takes one and what that means. one senator can stop the nomination of the next supreme court justice. one perfectly placed senator, republicans have a 51-49 majority on the senate floor, but senator john mccain is too ill to vote which means republicans have a one vote advantage on the floor, 50- -49 but when the first vote came up, three democrats voted for neil gorsuch. heidi hide camp in north dakota where the president visited tonight campaigning against her
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and where donald trump won by 36 points. joe manchin in west virginia and joe donelly in indiana, all three of them voted for neil gorsuch. but this time everything could be different. if one senator does what he has promised to do. a retiring senator in his final months in office who is not in the senate leadership or a chairman of a committee is normally in a powerless position bidding fond fair well to his colleagues. but tonight, jeff flake, who is in his last months in office, has positioned himself to become the most powerful senator. he's not a chairman of a committee. he is normally ignored by most of his republican colleagues and by the republican majority leader of the senate, mitch mcconnell.
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jeff flake is normally a quiet, mild man erred senator whose only claim on attention has been his occasional sharp and eloquent criticisms of president trump but they have mostly been criticisms of the president's style, not his policies. jeff flake has supported most trump policies but there's one trump policy that jeff flake truly hates, a recent trump policy. and he has declared his willingness to launch the senate version of a war over that policy. and no, it is not the policy of arresting and jailing children and infant babies on the southern border. for jeff flake, the very worst thing that donald trump has done is illegally impose tariffs on imports from canada and the european union. tariffs on products that have nothing to do with our national security. congress has the sole authority
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to raise or lower or eliminate tariffs, something congress seems to have forgotten. just like congress has the sole authority to raise or lower taxes. the president cannot raise taxes with an executive order. but decades ago congress inserted a little noticed loophole in international trade law allowing the president to unilaterally adjust tariffs for national security reasons only. and jeff flake is outraged that congress is allowing the president to illegally use this power, since there is not a national security issue involved in these tariffs. and he wants congress to pass a law that would close that loophole. jeff flake is pushing abill, along with senator bob corker who sponsored the bill to do that. it wouldn't close the loophole completely, it would just require a congressional vote to approve any tariff action taken by the president because of national security.
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mitch mcconnell, who knows the trump tariffs are a violation of international trade rules and a violation of law, is afraid of getting in a fight with donald trump, especially afraid of getting in a fight with donald trump during the election season. so mitch mcconnell is refusing to allow jeff flake to have a vote on that bill in any form, even as an amendment. so on sunday, george, asked jeff flake the most important question of the year. >> are you prepared to use your other powers to do that? i know you considered at least on the issue of tariffs and a couple other issues saying as a member of the judiciary committee you will no longer allow judges out of the committee unless there's actions on tariffs. >> as george will put it, article three branch is important, the court, and we
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approved a number of judges. that is important. but article one, the congress, article two, the executive are as important as well. i do think unless we can actually exercise something other than approving the president's executive nominees, we have no reason to be there. so i think myself and a number of senators, at least a few of us, will stand up and say let's not move any more judges until we get a vote, for example, on tariffs. >> let's not move any more judges. of course, jeff flake said that before he knew that by the middle of the week we would be headed for a vote on a supreme court justice. yesterday, daily beast reporter andrew dezedero interviewed jeff flake with the report, i will block trump judicial nominees until gop votes on tariffs. jeff flake told the daily beast, i'm committed to getting a vote on tariffs. that was 24 hours before jeff
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flake knew he was going to be facing a vote on a very important judge before he leaves the senate. the next supreme court justice. jeff flake is a member of the senate judiciary committee. there are 11 republicans on the senate judiciary committee and ten democrats. so it takes only one republican vote against a nomination in the senate judiciary committee to defeat that nomination in the committee. and so, if jeff flake doesn't back down and stays true to what he said before justice anthony kennedy announced his retirement, jeff flake can be the senator who stops the next trump nominee to the supreme court. normally a nomination that is defeated in the committee dies in the committee. that's the end of it. but in this case, the nomination would still go to the senate floor.
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mitch mcconnell would still bring it to the senate floor with the report, technical report that the judiciary committee voted against it. but that wouldn't bind the senate floor. it would go to the senate floor with one republican voting against it. and that would give plenty of encouragement and political cover to the three democrats who might be inclined to vote for the nomination. by that time there might be enough pressure on republican senator susan collins of maine and lisa murkowski to vote against a judge that would overturn roe versus wade. they're the only two pro-choice republican senators. so if jeff flake does not back down from what he said he would
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do to block trump judges before he knew that one of the judges he would have to block would be a supreme court justice, then jeff flake could create a dynamic situation on the senate floor where anything could happen. the democrats might be able to hold all of the democrats then in opposition to a trump supreme court nomination. and then, on the senate floor, it would only take that one republican to kill the nomination. and if jeff flake is that one republican, he would then leave the united states senate with a very important place in history. leading off our discussion now, jill wine banks, neera tanden, and ron klain, former chief counsel to the senate judiciary
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committee and an obama administration official. he has worked on several senate confirmations of supreme court justices in his senate staff position and his white house positions. with that, ron, we're going to begin with you. i know that you were on the judiciary committee during the clinton confirmations, within the obama administration you helped get two judges through the judiciary committee with your experience, what do you see as the possibilities tonight? >> well, i think the democrats are going to have to fight hard. but i think if they fight hard, it's an open question as to what will happen. you laid out one scenario, i think there are others. the key thing is focus on a woman's right to choose. we didn't stop mitch mcconnell when he stole a supreme court seat in 2016 but we have to stop donald trump's roe reversal reproductive rights rip off.
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we can't let this happen. i think democrats showed they can make it happen when they beat robert bork in 1987. if they put pressure on collins, flake, and murkowski, they can turn around what they're trying to do here. >> jeff flake at 8:57 tonight, knowing what he said in his little known comments on sunday and tuesday, issued a statement that doesn't really say anything. he said, as i have said before, approing a principle conservative who will interpret the constitution rather than legislate from the bench should be our top priority. standard language in the press releases. and then he simply said, as we turn toward filling its seat, i look forward to the senate fulfilling its responsibility of providing advice and consent during a robust confirmation process.
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that's jeff flake not saying he will, he won't, not saying anything, but he's got to be thinking tonight about what he has been saying before tonight. >> the most crucial question for jeff flake is, if you have qualms about this presidency, if you give speeches to the american people saying that this president is flouting norms and laws and rule of law and democracy itself, the one step he can take to end that, to actually discourage it, to stop it, is to vote against this nomination. a nomination which has added importance because of the norm-breaking rule-breaking that happened with merrick garland, a stolen justice seat that justice neil gorsuch is in today. i agree with ron, women are leading this resistance. they have led the activism in the country.
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what is really happening here is that donald trump will put forward a justice who may say one thing or sound good or sound reasonable, but will overturn roe v wade. and it is up to the american people to say that is a bridge too far. it is up to women across this country to organize, to engage, to use democracy's tools to say to susan collins and lisa murkowski, you cannot vote for these nominees, this nominee, or such a nominee and claim you are pro-choice. that is ridiculous. >> jill wine-banks i know you have argued cases to the supreme court. i want to get your reaction to what it will mean to practitioners as a legal practitioner who have this kennedy seat filled by let's just say another version of neil gorsuch?
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>> i think the different between the gorsuch appointment which was replacing a conservative with a conservative, is this is replacing a person who actually listened to arguments on both sides and who was a centrist in a way, not as much of a centrist as he is known as because he's done a lot of decisions that i would consider to be bad, hobby lobby, gore versus bush, many others, some of the gerrymandering cases, some of the voting rights cases, but he was more of a person who was known at least as a decisive factor in the 5-4 decisions. so it's much more important that the democrats stand up and be strong and that some republicans join in and say that we need to have someone who will listen to the arguments, as a practitioner we want to have an open-minded judge, who will listen to the arguments put forth and will make a sound decision on it.
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and that's what i'm afraid of. i am so worried about democracy and all the rights that we've come to take for granted, that i've grown up with, being abolished under this new court. >> ron klain, you worked on this strategic question in the senate and in the obama administration, how do you hold on to the democrat who is in a state like north dakota, we've had democratic senators in states like that in every one of these supreme court votes, that you've worked on, how do you hold on to heidi hidecamp when the president flies to her state tonight, campaigning against her and donald trump is so overwhelmingly popular in north dakota? >> a couple things, first, a reminder that president trump campaigned against her. so trying to make peace with donald trump is a fool's errand for her. trump is going to fight her either way, whatever she does. so she needs to do the right thing.
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i think what happened to judge bork is a model here. he was nominated by a popular republican president, ronald reagan, had superb credentials and people said the democrats couldn't hold together and win, yet they did, and got six republicans to cross lines with him. the senate is in worse shape now, but i think if the case is made about the rights americans will loose, especially the right to choose, you can hold a few republicans and flip this person and beat this person like the democrats beat bork in 1987. >> i talked to strategists who are saying it's all about susan collins and lisa murkowski and every bit of pressure needs to be put on them. they can't stop this with just democratic votes at this point anyway, they need to pick up at least one republican or more. >> that's absolutely true. and i just want to remind
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everyone that a year ago at this time health care hung in the balance in a very similar way. and the american people rose up, people flooded town halls, made calls. this is not inevitable. mitch mcconnell today tried to sound as if everything is on track, he's going to have the vote before the elections because he wants us to believe it's impossible to fight this. but the truth is that ron is absolutely right. these justice fights, judicial fights have been fought and won, and i would like to just say, i remember, you know, 20, 25 years ago, women started engaging in national debates on abortion because roe v wade was on the balance with george bush senior's election. that was the first time i became politically active at all on the choice issue back in my college days. the fact that we are facing a question of whether roe will be
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the law of the land in this time means that it's really going to be up to women to engage in this fight to call your senators tomorrow, all of your senators tomorrow, and to engage susan collins and lisa murkowski and flake, the whole panel of republican senators here have to recognize that roe is on the line and they don't want to talk about it, but we have to. >> neera tanden and jill wine-banks thanks for joining our first round of discussion. donald trump's nominee will have to answer questions about donald trump, like can the president be indicted? that's just for starters. and last night a federal judge issued an emergency order stopping the trump family separations on the southern border, and has given the trump government a tight deadline to reunite all of the families they
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next supreme court confirmation hearing. the next trump supreme court nominee is going to face questions, especially from democrats in the judiciary committee about robert mueller's investigation. can the president be subpoenaed to testify? can the if the be indicted? can the president be put on trial in a criminal court, or is the president only subject to trial in an impeachment trial in the united states senate? can the president pardon himself? it will be a confirmation hearing unlike any we have ever seen. joining us now is harry litman, a former u.s. attorney, he was also a law clerk for justice anthony kennedy. and ron klain is back with us. harry litman, as ron can tell you, the staff of the senate judiciary committee working on questions right now and certainly there will be many about the special prosecutor's investigation. >> i think that's right.
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and you've identified some of them. now the dance is going to be, ron knows this better than anyone, the nominee is going to try to have sort of bromide to stiff arm the questions and say i can't rule on that because it could come before me. and the follow-ups will try to be broader on the executive order and power. justice kennedy has given the democrats a final small gift here. the travel ban expressed certain views about the limitations of executive power. any nominee is going to have to extol justice kennedy and say good things about his jury us prudence. it will provide democrats a chance to say look justice kennedy said this, and put it in the broad level of executive power generally. >> if you were strategizing how to approach the questioning for
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the democrats on the question, ron, how would you organize it? would you try to organize it that some senators are assigned to focus on roe versus wade and other senators are assigned to focus on other matters? >> where i would start, before the nominees' rear end even got settled in the chair is with the question whether or not the president or any member of his administration asked about the nominees' positions on the questions of emoluments clause, presidential vulnerability to indictments. the first thing you want to ask was the nominee asked about those. because there's no dodge to those, no privilege or no way i can't talk about my rulings, and the straightforward question, were you asked about this, as part of the appointment process? we know donald trump went to jim comey and said make me a pledge of your loyalty. i don't think they'll do something quite so crass here, but the first thing to be on lookout is what kind of pledge
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was extracted from this nominee to get donald trump's approval for the supreme court. >> harry litman, it seems the republicans have people like ron klain on their teams to guide them through -- >> nobody is like ron klain. >> who try to do their best imitation of ron klain, guiding people through the confirmation process and they'll be steering the nominee towards those answers that we heard from neil gorsuch, things like i have not formed an opinion, i cannot speculate, even though they all have an opinion of roe versus wade, they have an opinion about it. >> clarence thomas never having spoken about it. the fact is, they'll be ahead of the game. they'll know the script in advance. on the other hand, certain appointees do it better than others. everyone gets well prepped
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nevertheless, i would say roberts was sort of masterful, bork was claudish, and there's only a certain kind of personality may come through, they'll all be scripted with an eye toward what the questions are going to be. there won't be a surprise. yet some potential nominees will be more reassuring than others and that will be part of the drama here. >> ron, we have every reason to believe the nominee will be relatively young and a member of the federal bench already and therefore will have been already confirmed by the united states senate and some of them confirmed in possibly some cases almost unanimously. so they will know something about this routine. although, talk about how there's no pressure quite like the supreme court nominee's hearing. >> i think, lawrence, what they go through when they get nominated to a lower court, a hearing with virtually no one in
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the room, one senator lobbing questions at them, is nothing like what they're facing here. every nominee i worked with, with one exception, had been a prior lower court nominee and they've never seen anything like what they're going to see in a supreme court hearing, particularly one with the fate of the court on the balance. there's another tactic to use here by the democrats is put the nominee between a rock and hard place. if you get them saying they'll hold trump accountable to thinks, subject him to the law. we know when gorsuch just lightly criticized trump, trump thought about pulling his no, ma'am -- nomination. >> it's an interesting point that donald trump himself is a wild card. he might ask questions he
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shouldn't, he may have reactions she shouldn't. he may not be sophisticated. things can happen. >> anything can happen on this one. thank you, ron klain, we needed you more on this night than anyone. thank you harry litman for joining us. when we come back, a federal judge issued an emergency order last night stopping the trump family separations on the southern border. and that judge has also ordered the trump government to reunite those families and do it quickly, with a deadline. the game" with uncle drew. this is the moment. you gonna run away from it? or are you gonna step up and take it? now introducing, aleve back and muscle pain. only aleve targets tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. so you can leave it all on the court. coach: no, kids, don't you do that! uncle drew: i could do this all day. yes, way to finish man! aleve back and muscle. all day strong. all day long.
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the flores case in the los angeles federal court has for decades determined the rules for treating children taken into custody at our southern border but last night another federal judge in san diego issued an order in a case brought by the aclu on behalf of families celebrated at the southern border and put into custody. judge dana sebraw ordered the trump administration to immediately stop splitting up parents and children at the southern border and the judge set a firm deadline for the government to reunite the families that they have already split up. the judge ordered that within 14 days of the preliminary injunction that he issued late last night the trump government must reunite all migrant children under age 5 who have been separated from their parents, and within 30 days they must reunite all migrant children age 5 and other with
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their parents. the judge also ordered the trump government to connect separated parents and children by phone within 10 days. the judge's order means that the trump government will have to speed up family reunifications, something they do not know how to do. the health and human services agency was able to reunite just six members of the family over a six-day period, one child per day. and some of the parents are no longer in the united states. a study shows several hundred parents appear to have been deported without their children in april alone. the trump administration is leaving open the option that it would appeal the order. the justice department was asked and they declined to comment if they would appeal. the president was asked about it today. >> what about the order on
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immigration? >> we're going to see, but we believe the families should be together also, so there's not a lot to fight. >> how do you guarantee that? >> we believe families should be together. >> the president suffered another defeat on the floor today. today he endorsed a house republican immigration bill saying house republicans should pass the strong but fair immigration bill in their afternoon vote today. and even with donald trump's capitalized letter support of the bill, the bill was crushed in the house today with almost as many republicans voting against it as voted for it. the vote was 121 in favor, 321 opposed. every democrat voted against it and 112 republicans voted against the president and the bill. after the vote, the president lied and tried to say he didn't really endorse the bill.
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>> do you have a message to house republicans who failed to pass the immigration bill earlier? >> no, i want them to do what they want. the problem we have, and i told them this morning, i said, pass it if if you can, but i also want them to do what they want. >> you saw what he said in the tweet. he did not tell them to do what they want. he said, quote, house republicans should pass the strong but fair immigration bill. and half of the republicans ignored the president today. and as of today has announced another audio recording of a 7-year-old boy in custody in the united states speaking to his mother in guatemala.
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joining us now from el paso county texas, nbc global news editor, cal perry. and also danny a savalos who just returned from the border. it sounds like the judge in the san diego case is going to find out where the babies are. but in the meantime, there are
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protests continuing, and you saw a protest today in texas where they were trying to, in some way, communicate with the kids in custody. >> yeah and by way of explaining i think what's happening down here at the border and what's happening across the country. look at this video. we had a small protest. there have been small protests every day trying to keep attention down here. this was to get a balloon over top of the camp with a sign that says you are not alone, written in spanish. unfortunately what happened is a rancher showed up, this was a public road being used and a rancher showed up to run protesters off of this public road. at one point he takes out a gun. take a listen. >> he's got a gun. tell them he's got a gun. >> they know. >> tell them up there he's got a gun. >> i don't have my phone. >> so now you have on a public road in the state of texas, protesters confronted by a rancher with a gun.
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i had the pleasure of meeting this rancher about a week earlier, he ran me off that public road and he does not believe that the things that are being said on tv are true. he thinks it's a false narrative being controlled by the media, which is what a great number of people think. where we are here, in 2018, as a journalist if i tell the truth standing outside an internment camp i'm not telling the truth because the ruling part, the party of donald trump, their platform is to lie, deceive, and distract from what's going on in this country which is children in internment camps, separated from their parents, in the middle of the desert. that's where we are. it's shocking. but i have to tell you, it's been going on for a week here. that rancher was not arrested and he has the support of the people in the camps. >> you've been down at the border watching how the immigration cases are being handled. but as it turns out a judge in
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san diego issued an order that's in control of what's happening. it sounds like he's going to find out where the babies are, how many of them are there, how many of them need nursing mothers. this judge is after specificity. >> that's right. the criminal proceedings i have observed in south texas, occurred independently of this order because they were separate proceedings. this was not immigration court i sat in on, this was federal criminal court and only misdemeanor cases before a magistrate. and that magistrate told the 70 to 75 defendants that i saw, i have nothing to do with whether or not you were separated from your children. nothing at all. and in a way he was right. in a way it's not true also because the u.s. attorneys in there, are not u.s. attorneys they're custom and border protection attorneys who are cross designated as u.s.
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attorneys. so they can certainly address the issue of children. the point is the court's order today as to the immediate reunification with children and their families will exist independently of those misdemeanor prosecutions. as long as the trump -- the current administration chooses to prosecute those en masse you're going to have this, because parents can be separated from their children in criminal proceedings. it's afterwards they should be reuniied promptly. >> was there any reaction to the san diego judge's ruling? >> people don't think it is going to make a difference. yesterday 2,047 kids in custody. jacob sob roasked for clarification, the child is at a risk being without the parent,
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and the government got back to him two hours later and said you're right. i don't think they have a grasp of the situation. the government was unprepared -- certainly the agencies were unprepared with the new policy of separating children from their parents. and now with the executive order they're equally unprepared to reunite those children. in that camp in texas, of the 26 children separated, only three have been reunited. so when i talk to a spokesperson from hhs and he says he knows where everyone is, that's not the key. a lot of these parents have been deported. by way of example, the el salvador consulate was at the camp because they're having problems confirming documents. the government doesn't accept all documentation from the governments so they have to go through this with a fine-tooth comb.
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>> thank you both, really appreciate it. when we come back, once again, the russian government has told the world about something the president of the united states has decided to do before the white house announced it. i am all about living joyfully. ♪
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the president of the united states has agreed to do before the white house announced it within and as usual, the white house had no problem with that. the russian government is actually more transparent more quickly about its dealing with president trump than the white house is about president trump's dealing with the russian government, especially vladimir putin. this time, the news from the russian government is that president trump has agreed to a meeting with vladimir putin the same vladimir putin who our intelligence services say interfered with the presidential election, which is to say interfered with american democracy. today the president said this about the upcoming putin meeting. >> it would look like we will probably be meeting sometime in the not-too-distant future. i said it from day one, getting along with russia and china and with everybody is a very good thing. it's good for the world, it's good for us, it's good for everybody. so we'll probably be meeting sometime around my trip to europe.
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>> yes, getting along with everybody is a very good thing. but getting along with russia does not mean allowing or encouraging russia to illegally interfere with our election process. up next, former undersecretary of state wendy sherman will join us with her reaction to the president of the united states rewarding vladimir putin with a summit meeting. little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months, ... with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. tell your doctor if these occur. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression.
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he became president trump's national security adviser, and before he met with vladimir putin today to work out the details of a trump-putin summit. >> whatever they did in the 2016 election, i think we should respond to. i don't think the response should be proportionate. i think it should be very disproportionate, because deterrence works when you convince your adversary that they will pay an enormous cost for imposing cost on you. and that's what causes them to say we're not even going to think about it. >> joining us now ambassador wendy sherman, former undersecretary of state for political affairs and msnbc global affairs contributor. bass tor sherman, john bolton has help arrange vladimir putin's reward, which is a summit meeting with the president of the united states, the same john bolton we just heard say russia should pay an
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of great britain and that will be difficult. he'll probably have a side meeting with la farce who is a pro brexit tier and then he'll movie "groundhog day." we saw the president meet with kim jong-un after he bashed our allies in the g-7 and ugh then hugged our adversaries. i feel like he's about to do that again. the president will go to nato and complain that nato is costing too much and not taking care of america's interest, then he'll go meet the prime minister of great britain and that will be difficult. he'll probably have a side meeting with la farce who is a pro brexit tier and then he'll meet with putin possibly in helsinski in a stand alone summit. i'm all for talking to the russians, but a stand-alone summit is a real gift of saying that he is the president's equal
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and it's not at all clear what we're going to get out of such a summit. >> secretary of state pompeo said today that he's very confident that the president, when he meets with putin, quote, will make clear that meddling in our elections is completely unacceptable. are you as confident? >> i think if he does it, we're going to hear exactly what you just said, it will be one sentence and then he will move on. because putin will say we would never meddle, we have never meddled, we never will meddle and the president will say, well, i just want you to know it is unacceptable. and then they'll move on. so it really won't be meaningful. i look back at others who have had summits in helsinski, president ford did and president herbert walker bush did. and they got things out of those summits. chemical weapons treaties got signed. but things happened because we
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were tough and we were clear and we understood that we had a nato alliance that was going to help us make sure that europe stayed whole and peaceful and that we didn't have another world war. i don't know that the president has any understanding of the context in which he is about to have a meeting with putin, who is indeed the adversary john bolton said he is. >> with your experience negotiating with north korea, i want you to get your reaction to a wall street journal report indicating they have indications that north korea is actually upgrading its nuclear research capacity and its nuclear weapons capacity. >> yes, indeed. 38 north, which is a think tank that looks at all things north korea through commercial satellite, has seen some improvements at a reactor site. and, you know, this shouldn't surprise us. kim jong-un agreed perhaps to freeze testing of missiles and of nuclear testing, but he didn't say anything about research and development.
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time for tonight's "last word." >> there is one talk show trump likes. >> they're not talented people. johnny carson was talented. >> he is right. carson was a legend. and here's just a taste of some of his great material. >> don't worry about gennifer flowers. she got fired. she was a receptionist at an unemployment agency. she got canned. but she got a new call today as a donald trump backup mistress. >> he really was ahead of his time. that guy is funny. >> thanks to stephen colbert, this is the first time i get to say johnny carson, the legend, gets tonight's last word. "the 11th hour" with brian williams starts no uh. tonight, what could be the most consequential day of the trump presidency as justice anthony kennedy announces his retirement from the supreme court, leaving an opening for a
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nomination that could shape american life for a half century or more. the fight has already moved to the hill where mcconnell says they'll vote by fall. democrats say it must wait until the democrats say it must wait until after the midterms, but they're in the minority. meantime, the white house says the trump meeting with putin is on. they're just waiting to work out the details. all part of our world as "the 11th hour" gets under way on a wednesday night. good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. this was day 524 of the trump administration. and this, according to our friend the historian john meacham was the day the age of ronald reagan officially ended. this was the day supreme court justice anthony kennedy announced his retirement. and before we go on here, just a few things about anthony kennedy. he's been on the court for 30 ye

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