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july last word. the last word is here week nights at 10:00 eastern time. and you can always listen to the "last word" as a podcast. it's free on apple podcasts now or wherever you get your podcasts. good evening from new york and happy fourth of july. i'm chris hayes, and it is a very special independent day episode of "all in." because we thought what better way to celebrate the fourth of july than with some fireworks. tonight we present some of our more explosive interviews from the year thus far from the always fiery steve schmidt to our favorite richard painter moment ever and some scott prui pruitt bombshells along the way. our first segment tonight aired back in march just after the president of the united states publicly insulted her intelligence. this was our segment with the gentle lady from california, one
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maxine waters. >> we have to defeat nancy pelosi and maxine waters, a very low iq individual. you ever see her? we will impeach him. we will impeach the president. but he hasn't done anything wrong. it doesn't matter, we will impeach him. she is a low iq individual. >> joining me now is congresswoman maxine waters, democrat from california. the president has said this twice in the past week. i want to give you an opportunity to respond. >> you know, there is no response. everybody knows who this bully is. this president has attacked more women, more individuals, name-calling -- i mean look at
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this, not only has he talked about senator warren, called her poke haupt s, called hillary crooked, calling me low iq, called rubio little. i mean this is what we expect of him. i just wonder what took him so long. since we know who he is and the fact he is, you know, calling people names copse tptnstantly talking about the media in the way he does and calling people sobs, et cetera, et cetera, i'm not surprised at all. if he thinks he can stop me from talking about impeach 45, he's got another thought coming. i'm not intimidated by him. i'm going to keep saying we need to impeach him. and i am so depending on our special counsel robert mueller to connect the dots so that he can prove the collusion, and of course we've seen obstruction of justice just playing out before
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our very eyes. so this is dishonorable human being. he is a con man. he came to this job as a con man. i really call him don the con man. that's who he is, that's who we expect, and i'm not surprised at all. >> it's interesting to listen to your reaction of this because it almost sounds like you and other folks who work in washington don't even -- it doesn't even land anymore when he does this kind of thing because it has become so rogue. >> that's absolutely fair. we expect to wake up every morning to him calling somebody else another name or telling another lie. he has no credibility, and so we're not surprised about him, you know, calling names and talking about my iq. he might say or do anything. it's expected. >> you just mentioned robert mueller. i know that you believe that there probably was collusion, there were crimes committed. that's a contention you've made.
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you think obstruction has played out before our eyes. today republicans in the intelligence committee announced very abruptly without consulting democrats they're wrapping up their investigation, it's done and it's over and they found no collusion. do you take that at face value? >> well, first of all they had no real investigation. and who would believe nunes was working in a credible way to find out what took place? as a matter of fact, he was simply a messenger boy for the president running up in the middle of the night trying to prove that obama, for example, had wiretapped the president. and so they can conclude whatever they want. they weren't doing anything to begin with. it was not a credible investigation, so we're not paying attention to that at all. >> the president's former whitehand man steve bannon went to france. he's been touring around europe, and gave an address, a very hard right anti-immigrant some say
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pro proto-fascist party. and this is what he said to them. take a listen. >> let them call you racist. let them call you zenophobes, let them call you nativists. wear it as a badge of honor. because every day we get stronger and they get weaker. >> wear the term as a badge of honor. what do you think about that? >> he's always said that. when he was at breitbart he said, look, if race is an issue make it known every time. he wants us constantly talking about how racist tlair, ahey ar constantly he's organizing people saying we're accusing them unfairly, we're playing the race cards. this is his game and this is what he does.
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and we have to stay on some of these issues and stop following some of this stuff that he's doing and that the president is doing. they like diverting us and diverting the attention. i'm sitting here as the ranking member of the financial services committee trying to hold onto the reforms that we have made with dodd/frank. that consumer protection bureau mr. mulvaney is over there trying to dismantle is extremely important. we're working on issues trying to deal with the big banks and to implement the dodd/frank reforms that we've been involved in, to make sure we never have another crisis like we've had where the big banks basically took advantage of so many of our citizens with these exotic loans and with these loans that were resetting in a short period of time. we had foreclosures all over this country that we had to learn how to do modifications for and keep people in their homes. we need to be talking about
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these issues. we need to be talking about the sanctions and why there's no implementation of the sanctions. why is it that tillerson had $120 million, didn't spend a dime of it to find out what it happened with hacking into our dnc? why is it mnuchin who's a treasury secretary who's supposed to help implement these sanction is excuses himself and talking about, oh, that's something the state department was supposed to do? this president in my estimation has a deal with putin where he agreed to lift the sanctions. and i believe no matter what anybody else says, that is what was worked out between the two of them, that putin helped him become president in the way he has done all of the trolling and all that that he's done. and so i'm not surprised about anything he's done, and it's time to talk about the issues. he can call me all the names he
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wants, it doesn't make any difference. and i want to tell you he is exactly who we know him to be. he is don the con man. he's a conartist. >> congresswoman, maxine waters, thank you for making the time. this past may we witnessed one of the gasliest contrasts of 2018. while just 40 miles away israeli soldiers shot and killed dozens of protesting palestinians. trump's decision reversed decades of american foreign policy designed to maintain the fragile prospects for middle east peace. that night we were joined my steve schmidt who did not hold back. >> everything we will see donald trump do from now until the mid-terms to try to stave off a disastrous mid-term election defeat is try to infencify support in his base through
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policies of insight m. so we saw the two nut job preachers at the crossroad of civilization and religion be able to antagonize judaism, catholicism all in the same day, their extreme ideology. this is not about making the middle east more secure. it's not about making the united states more secure. it's not about making sure that we don't have yet another generation of american kids dying in middle eastern wars. it's all about donald trump being able to score a point, m ephemeral though it may be in the news cycle and position himself for mid-term elections. it's clear as day that he has no sense of history. he's clearly ignorant of the
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religions in the region. do you think he could tell you the origins of the suny shia schism. when he announced to move to the embassy i said there will be blood on his hands. not because he pulled the trigger but he destabilized the region without having any clue what he was doing, and that goes for jared kushner as well. >> you mentioned roger, one of the pastors who gave an indication today. he says you can't be saved by being a jew, and morminism is a here say from the pit of hell. and he said the same about islam. john haguey also giving an indication today. you think this really is an entirely domestic political management of the trump base?
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>> of course it is. it is an appalling disgrace that these two were allowed to open in prayer under the flag of the united states, an official u.s. government event given their mountains of bigotry, their anti-catholicism, anti-judaism, anti-islam. we don't talk about these people enough. they dress up as man of god but they are not. they are in business, and they are in politics. and the type of politics that they advocate is an extreme and theocratically tinged politics. you see that they thirst for the nectar of political power. the gospel is secondary. when you look at their exp exploications of donald trump,
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it's for expedient partisan political purposes. one of the things that is certainly true about this movement, wherever you look around the world and you see the fusion of the state with religion, whether it is putin and the orthodox church complicit in his power or other places around the world, the ideology advanced and represented by haguey et al always veers towards the autocratic, always veers towards an extreme animus towards gays. there are people who would rather tell you how to live and what birth control you're allowed to take, for example, if you're a young woman that would ever dare to say what is so obviously true about conduct by this president that is so obviously wrong. tease are the modern day
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pharaohsys in the temple. and one of the hypocrites is we know who they are, and no one in this country ever has to pretend again when they hold up a quote and they you're attacking my religion to do anything but laugh out loud. they're politicians and extreme ones at that. >> steve schmidt, thank you for coming out tonight. much more ahead including a tour through some of the countless scandals in washington, d.c. scott prosecute, that's next. when my hot water heater failed, she was pregnant, in-laws were coming,
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welcome back to our special "all in" fourth of july fireworks show as we turn now to it bombshells -- get it -- of scott pruitt, president trump's advisor of epa. epa administrator scott pruitt has spent more than $58 million taxpayer dollars on commercial flights. pruitt also gave himself, listen
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to this, an 18 person 24/7 security detail at a cost of more than $18,000 in just three months. he used money to have his office swept for listening devices. the epa spent nearly $25,000 to build a soundproof communications booth for pruitt's office. pruitt has been routinely flying first class, such a as a $1,600 first class ticket to fly from washington, d.c. to newark to italy. last summer more than -- i almost can't believe this is true, but it is -- more than $120,000 in public money was spent so pruitt could take a single trip to italy. scott pruitt took a bribe from a wife of an energy analyst. pruitt's security detail broke down the door of it condo when
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it was believed pruitt was unconscious. using private e-mail to talk to oklahoma's attorney general. also the news that pruitt bypassed the white house to give big raises to two of his favorite aides. you'll remember scott pruitt got in hot water over a $50 a night apartment he rented for a lobbyist in d.c. and now we know he once bought a house with the lobbyist. 2 silver if you wanten pens and journals that came in for the price of $1,560. can you go lower? how about, oh, i don't know, getting a government employee to try to buy you a used mattress. pruitt directed agents of his
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security detail to drive him to multiple locations in search of a particular location on offer at ritz carlton hotels. that must be some special lotion. in the wake of some of those scandals i spoke last month to eric lipton of the new york city and elena plot. and it was elena who was called a piece of trash by the epa spokesman. what happened in this phone collin which you were told that you were garbage? >> as one does when you're a reporter you get a tip, you confirm it and then you call a spokesperson asking for comment. and instead of getting a comment i was told i was a piece of trash. so there you have it. i know i haven't been doing this very long, but i have to believe that relations between the press core throughout the administration haven't always been this acrimonious. >> you were just calling to confirm this set of facts? i just want to be clear here. >> correct.
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>> you called to confirm this person resigned and you were told you were a piece of trash? >> exactly. >> eric, what is going on over there? >> it's been a series of embarrassing slip-ups by scott pruitt. in the last five days we've done five different stories. it turns out the lobbyist that was renting the condo to him even more than we thought. there was an executive that gave him tickets and seats you have to have $100 mill access to, and resignation of his people and that's five days worth of stories. no wonder the press office there feels under siege, but we aren't making these stories up. we're just reporting them. and there's been tension between the reporters and the press shop, but we're just doing our jobs. i'd actually rather be writing about environmental policy but pruitt keeps his focus on his management. >> there's a sense in which we keep having more and more
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stories. i'm going to read a partial list here. the sweetheart condo deal for lobbyist, $3 million spent on a security detail, first class travel on the public dime, circumventing the white house to give those raises to aides, which were by the way tens of thousands of dollars a year, the chick fill a franchise request, the $25,000 office soundproof booth, the lobbyist trip to morocco, seats to a college basketball game for a lobbyist. is this penetrating in the epa or are they like nothing's going to happen to him in. >> i think what epa aides have learned they can do quite well and same goes for administrator pruitt, the cover-up is almost worse than the crime in most cases.
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i gave the story about the two raises, and what congressional investigators ended up asking about was not the raises themselves but whether pruitt had lied about it. a lot of these are kind of bee side skanldles, i have to wonder if the administrator or the secretary in whatever department would have just apologized and we would have forgotten about it the next day. >> is there a significance of the two individuals that came with him from oklahoma who were clearly close to him who received these salary increases of the two individuals, eric, that resigned or quit today? >> i'm hearing directly from some of his closest people that he brought with him from oklahoma that there's a lot of disappointment and feeling their own careers have been partially sacrificed as a result of their commitment to him, and that they have been hurt by their working with him. there's a lot of disappointment among the top political people. not only among the career people who have worked for decades to try to defend the quality and
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environment of the united states but even of political people which is the most surprising part of it. >> elena, you want to say something. >> absolutely. i think we have to understand with sarah and -- gone those circle ofades is shrinking, you know, smaller and smaller by the day. so you be to wonder either what deluge of stories come out within the next few days or pruitt decides i don't have anyone to lean on at this point other than the president. >> the president going out of his way to praise pruitt today. nothing major enough to threaten the guy's job as far as i can tell. >> my colleague lisa freeman was on the hill today trying to button hole senators. she spoke with approximately ten of them. i was actually surprised that the republicans continue for the most part be reserved in criticism. there were a few that were quite
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critical but they were not surprising who they are. really the only person that matters here is president trump. and so far at least he continues to have the president's support. it's always obviously very unpredictable where these things are going to play out with the president. none of us really know what's going oto happen. >> thank you for your great reporting and your time tonight. coming up the interview that helped kick off the month of public outrage that finally forced trump to back down. that's next. are you done yet?
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on the friday going into memorial day weekend reports were beginning to surface that
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the trump administration was separating migrant children from their parents after they crossed the southern border. i talked to two people working on the front lines of the issue providing legal representation to detained immigrants. the aclu's laura st. john of the florence project mchb what they told me has perhaps blown up into the biggest self-made of this presidency. taken away from their families by the u.s. government with no immediate plan to reunite them. we followed up every single night since then. this country is now systematically taking children from their parents at the border thanks to new directives issued by the trump administration. immigrants arriving at the border often seeking asylum. so not trying to sneak in. they're there to tell border patrol they're there are having their children ripped away from them. immigrants and civil rights groups are saying they've never seen anything like this.
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kids as young as 9 years old and 7-year-olds, cases of children as young as seven months ripped out of the arms of their mother and put into shelters to punish the immigrants, to serve as what white house chief of staff john kelly called a tough deterrent in an npr interview this month. and he added quote, the children will be taken care of, put into foster care or whenever. that's a verybatim quote, or whatever. and if kelly's words don't exactly fill you with confidence, the federal government has the wherewithal or capacity or attention to take care of these children, their track record makes it clear that your doubts are warranted. because last month new york city reported that the hhs lost track of nearly 1,500 children placed with sponsors.
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of those unkaechltaccompanied m that's 1,500 lost by the government. here it help me understand what the administration is doing to these children and their families. let me start with you, laura. i just want to start on sort of a factual basis, which is the government's doing something they haven't been doing before which is to separate children from parents, right? >> that's correct, chris. i mean what's happening right now is really unprecedented. what we've seen here in arizona is actually since january over 200 cases of parents being separated from their children. and some of these children are extremely young as you mentioned. we've actually seen children who are 2 years old regularly. and just last week we saw a 53-week old infant in court without a parent.
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>> i don't -- i'm sorry. i'm having a really hard time thinking about this. so a 53-week old infant comes with presumably his or her mother and they're apprehended by customs border patrol and then they're processed in some way, and at some point someone from the government in a uniform comes and physically takes a 53-week old baby away from the mother? >> that's correct, yeah. what happens oftentimes at the border is that the parents are separated and taken into separate custody and the children are brought into the custody of the office of refugee resettlement and brought into shelters that are run by the government. >> there are shelters, and then who -- it's hard to run a child care system. like, who's watching the 53-week old infant? >> so again it's the office of refugee resettlement is tasked with housing children who are unaccompanied minors. and in the past that's always referred to children who cross the border sort of on their own
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and wasn't really involving young children like what we're seeing now. but what we're seeing now is because the government is separating the children from their the parents, the government is actually, you know, rendering these children as unaccompanied minors and making then unaccompanied and bringing them into these shelters. >> okay, now i understand. so you've got a situation where there are unaccompanied minors who cross the bord by themselves and they tend to be 14, 15, like them. >> that's one situation, but why create that situation? and that's what's happening now. we're creating. >> i want to be clear. we didn't do that before. policy used to be you show up with an 18 month in your arms, it's not that you're not coming to u.s. >> i'm talking to these mothers and they're describing these kids screaming mommy, mommy, don't let them take me away, 5
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years old, 6 years old. >> do they see them? >> they get to speak to them once in a while. but you're talking about a 18 month old, 1-year-old, they can't speak on the phone. if the policy makers could sit in those i.c.e. offices down at the border for a day and watch these little kids begging to not be taken away. they're already traumatized from having to flee their countries and now they're being taken away. and yet the government is finding every way they can to justify it. and secretary nielsen is saying you don't want your child taken away, go to a port of entry and present yourselves and people who are presenting themselves, still had their child taken away. >> i want to talk about sthory for a second. a woman fleeing the congo, comes
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to the united states not sneaking in. she shows up at the port of entry to say i am seeking asylum, i throw yourself on your mercy and the u.s. government does what? >> they put her in a makeshift hotel for four days and they say i want the daughter to comes in another room for a second. and the daughter goes in another room and the mother heard her screaming, please, please don't take me away. chicago might as well be the moon from someone from a little village in the congo. gets to speak to the daughter once every few weeks for a few minutes. when we filed the lawsuit the government says by the team she made it to the congo, she didn't have the papers. and they said maybe she's not the mother. >> i want to read to you from one of the declarations who was
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separated from her 18-month-year-old son. immigration officers made me walk out and place my son in a car seat in the vehicle. i did not even have a chance to comfort my son because the officers slammed the door shut as soon as he was in the seat. i was crying, too. i cry even now when i think about that moment when the border officer took my son away. is that a comment -- is that happening a lot? >> you know, i think what our clients report in terms of the devastation that they feel having been separated from their children, i hear stories of that nature pretty regulary, unfortunately. and the type of devastation we're talking about, that's entirely common right now in this administration. is that children and parents who are separated sometimes don't have any way to communicate with each other for days, for weeks.
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i've seen months where a parent had no idea where their child was after the u.s. government took the child away. >> you're suing? >> we are. >> can they do this? >> we don't believe they can. we are waiting for the decision. we are hoping the judge says this can't happen any longer. and i want to make one other point. even though women and fathers across the border they're being prosecuted, we don't think the asylum seekers should be prosecuted. what we've said to the government and in court is you want to prosecute them for this misdemeanor, take the kid away for those few days, give the child back after. we have a client one of the main plaintiffs, she did time served for a few days for the prosecution. it's been seven months, they haven't returned her child. >> where's the kid? >> he's in a facility in chicago. and she's in texas. and they told her your son is in chicago. and she said to us i don't know whether chicago is a man, a place, a facility.
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that's all they said to her. your son is in chicago. >> what a lawsuit contend about why they do not have the power to do this? it's morally odious. it's obviously despicable. why is it not permissive? >> we say a due process clause, what that's traditionally meant is you separate if the parent is neglecting the child. now the government won't in court admit they're doing it to punish to deter, so they're coming up -- >> really, they're not being clear about that? >> no. so they're coming up with these retroactive justifications. >> so they're saying they're doing it for a reason, not a blanket policy to keep them from coming. >> when the judge pressed is and said what's the reason, they said maybe it's not really about the parent.
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and the judge said what about dna? >> they won't admit what the policy is? >> they woechn't admit the rationale for their policy. they're doing it to deter the asylum seekers. >> there's a lot of things about the way that immigration policy works in this country. they have been broken and terrible for a long time. and sometimes people find them in the trump administration and turns out there's been stuff like this happening for a long time, but this is not that, right? you've been doing this work. this is new. >> yeah, absolutely. again, this is unprecedented. the number of people that we are seeing being separated is like nothing i've seen, and i've been here for nearly a decade in arizona doing immigration work. >> does it take a toll on -- i keep thinking about having that job of taking a screaming child away. does it take a toll on the people who are doing this? >> you know, i can't speak for anybody who works for border
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patrol. but i will say that i think what is happening is absolutely inhumane. i think you mentioned that a lot of things about immigration law are complicated and can be confusing. and i would say this is not that situation. you know, taking parents and children and separating them for no good reason, there is no reason to do that. it's just unjustifiable, frankly and inhumane. >> if you're watching this and you feel like it is unjustifiable, i mean i would really urge you to contact people that represent you in the united states government and tell them that you feel that way. thank you both. >> thank you. with moderate to severe ulcerative colitis, are you okay? even when i was there, i never knew when my symptoms would keep us apart. so i talked to my doctor about humira. i learned humira can help get, and keep uc under control when other medications haven't worked well enough. and it helps people achieve control that lasts.
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we are back with the all in fourth of july fireworks show. and if you are going to mix-up the elements for a truly explosive breaking news story, the president, an affair, an x. rated movie star, that should get you tnt. donald trump's long time personal fixer had paid an adult film actress stormy daniels $130,000 to keep quiet about her alleged affair with the president. we spoke to richard painter, the chief white house ethics lawyer under george w. bush, now a senate candidate in minnesota. his response was memorable. to the extent that you don't care about the president being unfaithful to his wife, what ethical issue is there here from your perspective? >> well, the whole thing is
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disgusting. we've had a disgusting past week to ten day. we've had president to refers to the countries where americans of african descent which from as ass-holes and now we have this to buy off porn stars and now going to fly down to mar-a-lago and guess who's going to pay for him to fly down there on air force one? the taxpayers. i mean that's the big picture here. he probably does not have legal liability with respect to this payment. the prosecution theory in the john edwards case i think was a very weak one. we have a lot of right wingers spending money to try and nail clinton on his sexual affairs and nobody called those campaign contradictions to republicans. i don't think that theory works
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very well. but the main point here is that donald trump uses these llcs and all these shell entities and he has hundreds of them for all sorts of purposes. and paying off porn stars that he's had affairs with, that's only one of his purposes. he may be getting money from the russians. robert mueller needs to get to the bottom of what's going on with the finances. and every time robert mueller goes there, trump gets upset, which means there's something there. we've known donald trump has had these llcs, many of them, we've known that for months. and that mr. cohen setup a lot of them, some of his other lawyers setup other ones. robert mueller needs to look at every single one of them. robert mueller is not going to make the mistake ken starr did
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getting all mixed up -- yes, we've got a pervert in the white house. but he's going to focus on the money that kmuz from foreign nationals. if there's money that's going to be prosecuted. that's mueller's job, not focusing on the sex. coming up when chief of staff john kelly blatantly lied about a congresswoman frederica wilson offered a fiery response right here on "all in." i'm a four-year-old ring bearer with a bad habit of swallowing stuff. still won't eat my broccoli, though. and if you don't have the right overage, you could be paying for that pricey love band yourself. so get an allstate agent, and be better protected from mayhem. like me. can a ring bearer get a snack around here?
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when john kelly was hired as white house chief of staff he was touted as the adult in the room, the person who was going to restrain the president's ugliest impulses. there were reasons to chief of staff and he was tauted as the most adult in room. it was not until kelly's confrontation, the democratic congressman from florida, that it became crystal clear how much he shares in common with the president he serves. it all began last year of four soldiers killed in the west nation of niger. wilson was there with la david johnson's widow. that call did not go out. the president was quote "insensitive" to the soldier's widow, telling her her husband
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knew what he signed up for but when it happens, it hurts anyway. they sent chief of staff, john kelly, where he delivered a full on character assassination. >> in october, april of 2015, i went to the dedication of the new fbi field office in minimal m minimal -- miami. >> there were family members there and some of the children that were there were only three or four years old when their dad were killed. a congresswoman stood up and the long tradition of empty barrels making the most noise, stood up there and all of that and talked about how she was instrumental in getting the funding for that building. we were stunned. stunned that she had done it. even for someone that is that
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empty a barrel, we were stunned. >> that story was a lie. we know it was a lie because there was a video the event kelly was lying about which we played in fall here on "all in." >> all men and women and first responders who work in law enforcement stand up, stand up now so that we can applaud you in what you do. and now, we are proud of you. >> even after being exposed as a liar, john kelly, insisted he had done nothing wrong. >> do you feel like you have something to apologize? >> do i? >> no, never. i will apologize if i need to but something like this, i absolutely not. i standby my comments. >> there was no surprise of john kelly credibility came into question when it was reviewed.
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rob porter handled every classified documents across the president's desk have been accused by two xy's. kelly told reporters he fired porter as soon as he learned the allegation is credible. >> clarify to us of the time line when you found out about it? >> tuesday night. >> tuesday night? >> that was another lie. tuesday night in question, kelly defended porter in a public statement calling him "a man of true integrity, a friend and confidante." >> the next day images emerged of his ex-wife of a black eye. we thought we get perspective of
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firsthand experience of congressman fredricka wilson. her response did not disappoint. >> this is classic kelly. he lied on me and now he's lying everyday on the news. and the sad part about it is this is a four-star general, retired. who i supposed was an honorable man and wakes up every morning watching tv, as he loses each one of those stars. each one he has lost for lying. he has gotten himself into a situation where the entire body of people surrounding him are willing to lie for the president of the united states. this is crazy. why would he put his wonderful career on the line for donald
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trump who will throw anyone under the bus. it is just his time before he throws him under the bus. it is awful. it is awful. >> do you think that he can continue to do his job, mr. kelly, given what you just said? >> he's going to get beat up everyday. people are not going to forget that he tried to take up for or defend a wife baeater. someone who did not have security clearance to work in the white house and i believe the president knew, too. i believe they all knew months ago that this gentleman beat up his wife, two of them, and it is my understand thing that a girlfriend came forward. i don't think people will forget that and just move on?
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they'll continue to speak about it. that's wrong and it is painful. he has not even expressed one ounce of sympathy to those poor victims who had the courage to come forward and tell of their experience. when you have a security clearance, the fbi questions you and they know. they say this gentleman did not pass security clearance. why is he still there? why are they protecting him? because they don't respect women. >> congresswoman frederick wilson. >> thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back to wrap up our own 4th of july fireworks show. don't go away. my day starts well before i'm in the kitchen.
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