tv The Last Word With Lawrence O Donnell MSNBC July 13, 2018 7:00pm-8:00pm PDT
it is early saturday morning in london now. the president has a day in scotland and then, despite these new indictments, he is going to go to his monday summit with vladimir putin. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. lawrence? >> thanks, richard. thank you. watergate part two. that is where america is tonight. we now have a detailed indictment of the people who broke into democratic party headquarters during the 2016 presidential campaign, the last time that happened was 1972 when burglars were caught breaking into the democratic national committee's offices in the watergate office building in washington, d.c. the people that broke in in 1972 were acting to help the republican candidate for president. and the people who broke into
the democratic party's offices in 2016 were acting to help the republican candidate for president. no one caught the thieves in the act during the 2016 campaign because they broke into the office without ever setting foot in the democratic party's office. 12 russian military officers pulled off the theft this time. and today, three days before the president is scheduled to meet one-on-one with vladimir putin, deputy attorney general rod rosenstein made a historic announcement of an indictment returned by a federal grand jury in washington, d.c., this morning and signed by special prosecutor robert mueller. today a grand jury in the district of columbia returned an indictment presented by the special counsel's office. it charges 12 russian military officers by name for conspireing to interfere with the 2016
presidential election. 11 of the defendants are charged with conspireing to hack into computers, steal documents and release those documents with the intent to interfere in the election. one of those defendants and a 12th russian military officer, are charged with conspireing to infiltrate computers of organizations involved in administering elections, including state boards of election, secretaries of state and companies that supply software used to administer elections. according to the allegations in the indictment, the defendants worked for two units of the main intelligence directorate of the russian staff. they engaged in cyber operations to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. there was one unit that engaged in active cyber operations by stealing information.
and a different unit that was responsible for disseminating the stolen information. >> the indictment goes into deck any c -- technical detail of exactly what each did and how each made their stolen material public. >> the conspirators created fictitious on line personas and they used those personas to release information, including thousands of stolen e-mails and other documents beginning in june of 2016. the defendants falsely claimed the d.c. leaks was a group of american hackers and that goose fer 2.0 was a loan romanian hacker. >> it shows how they used wikileaks to disseminate stolen
material to get more media attention that was harmful to hillary clinton's campaign and helpful to donald trump's campaign. and in a stunning section of the indictment came the news that the russians also invaded state election information, including information about 500,000 voters. >> in a second related conspiracy, russian gru officers hacked the website of a state election board and stole information about 500,000 voters. they also hacked into computers of a company that supplied software used to verify voter registration information. they targeted state and local officials responsible for administering elections and they spent phishing e-mails to people involved in elections, including attaching malicious software. >> it also charges the russian
military officers with money laundering in order to pay for the infrastructure they used to pay for the attack. and now that the special prosecutor's office completed the investigation that led to this indictment, the deputy attorney general announced today the prosecution of the case would be moved to the justice department's national security division. and in that part of rod rosenstein's announcement today he made a little comment that should completely change the agenda of president trump's meeting with president putin. >> assistant attorney general is here with me today because we intent to transition responsibility for this indictment to the national security division while we await the apprehension of the defendants. >> while we await the apprehension of the defendants. the fbi does not have the power of arrest in moscow.
but president trump's justice department has just indicted 12 russians for the most serious crimes against the united states that any russians have ever committed. tampering with the presidential election in an effort to elect donald trump. president trusmp's agenda in hi meeting with president putin should begin and end with a demand for the immediate extradition to the united states of the 12 russians indicted today by american citizens sitting in judgment of those 12 russians in a grand jury in washington, d.c. the american people have spoken today as represented in the action of that grand jury of american citizens. the president spoke today about what he might say to vladimir putin about his interference in our election. the president said this before today's indictment was made
public. >> i know you will ask will we will talking about meddling, and i will absolutely bring that up. >> no, mr. president, your job is not to bring it up. you have a new job now as the head of the executive branch, the branch that enforces our laws. the president's job now is to demand that the 12 russians indicted today be surrendered to the united states for trial. that is what any real president of the united states would do. joining us now former assistant wat watergate special prosecutor and former federal prosecutor, a professor at the alabama school of law. and they are all msnbc contributors. jill, here we are now. this really is watergate part two.
>> it really is. and you have laid out a very good case. i would say that one of the differences is that this in a way answers a question that i have always had about what were they thinking about breaking into the dnc during watergate? what did they hope to get? well now we have seen what they might have been able to get if they had been successful because this was a successful break-in. they got very damaging documents that they weaponized and used to hurt hillary clinton and to help elect donald trump. that might have happened. one difference, of course, is that the people who broke in worked for the white house and the committee to re-elect the president. some were cuban exiles who had worked in the bay of pigs invasion on behalf of the u.s. we have now been invaded by a foreign adversary. this is very serious. and i agree with you completely that the first and last thing that should be discussed in the
meeting with putin, if it isn't canceled, but if it goes forward, he must fly home with the 12 indicted russians. >> i want to go to another element of the indictment here that's very important because it comes in the same day that donald trump actually asked russia to break the law in the way that russia did break the law. the indictment says that on july 27th, 2016, the conspirators attempted after hours to spear phish for the first time e-mail accounts at a domain hosted by a third party provider and used by clinton's personal office at or around the same time they targeted 76 e-mail addresses at the domain for the clinton campaign. that came at the end of the day when donald trump said this. >> i will tell you this. russia, if you're listening, i
hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. >> joyce vance, will special prosecutor robert mueller link donald trump at some point link that comment to what the russians did on that same day? >> you know, that has to be the question that we're all asking tonight, lawrence. this is what prosecutors call a speaking indictment. it tells a narrative story instead of just reciting the elements of the statute. and, so, mueller had a lot of discretion about the language that he chose to include in this indictment, and he's very deliberately setting the stage here, making sure that none of us could miss this conduct on the 27th where he notes that russia hacked the dnc hacked clinton's servers for the first time trying to get this information that trump asked them to get for him on that
date. and, so, i suppose much like watergate, we're back to this question of what did the president know and when did he know it? was it just a random, lucky chance guess of a question that he asked russia to do this? or had someone told him there was a realistic possibility? you know, law enforcement folks say there is no such thing as a coincidence in law enforcement, so i guess mueller will have more to say on this point. >> and david corn, of course, no sane person would openly invite russians to commit a crime but then we have been discussing exactly what the sanity level of donald trump is for the last couple of years. >> i think the indictment today is not just an indictment of the russians, but an indictment of donald trump and his whole crew. this shows something that we all kind of know. >> but david, david, let me stop you there. the white house reaction to this in their press release was nothing other than none of us
had anything to do with it. special prosecutor says that none of us had anything to do with it. the white house press release on it said nothing about the outrage of what the russians were actually accused of doing and brought no objection to it whatsoever. but, david, the white house says this indictment gives us a completely clean bill. >> well, of course it doesn't. because it shows there was an attack being mounted. it is not meddling. it is an attack on the united states political system throughout the summer of 2016. while this attack was going on, even when there was evidence that it had happened, the trump campaign again and again denied it was happening. this is akin to aiding and abetting. even if you are not in on the caper, you are helping them get away with it. then we have this information today that trump made a request and the russians seemingly allegedly responded to it. and at the end of the campaign the last two months, trump,
after being briefed that this attack was underway by the u.s. intelligence in august of 2016, still publically keeps saying again and again, we don't know if it's the russians. it could be this 400 pound guy. and, so, this indictment today shows without question what we knew already, this attack happened and, yet, the trump campaign tried to collude with russia while the attack was underway. tried to form contacts with russia while it was underway, and denied it was happening. this is aiding and abetting and it is a little bit more important than a lot of the distractions and diversions. you don't need for the collusion to say that trump basically made common cause with a foreign adversary as it attacked the united states. what worse can you say about a president of the united states? >> jill, talk about the difference between what you would need for a criminal indictment and a criminal conviction in court and what you
might put in a bill of impeachment, particularly in relation to what we just saw the president do. candidate trump standing up there inviting the russians to commit crime, to commit crime against our democracy, crime that they are now charged with. donald trump publically invited them to commit that crime. is that the kind of behavior that could find its way into a bill of impeachment? >> it certainly could be grounds for impeachment. it is any high crime or misdemeanor or treason. and working with a foreign agent or a foreign government could certainly be any of those things. so it could be for impeachment. but i think it is also clear evidence of a crime. i mean, david is completely correct in saying that this is aiding and abetting the obstruction of our elections. that is a crime. and we should be looking at it.
but i would say that the republicans in congress who have wasted our time yesterday in an absurd hearing attacking an fbi agent instead of looking at how they can prevent further interference in our elections. we have clear proof beyond a reasonable doubt that our elections were hacked, that state election systems were violated and that it is going to happen again in a few months. november is just months away. and congress has to harden our election systems. the states have to get active in this. we need to protect the sanctity -- the importance of our elections and people need to know that their vote will count as they cast it. and we need to know that the social media won't be used to change votes thinking that it's from americans instead of from russians. so it is all aiding and abetting and we must get busy on this.
>> joyce, i want to get your reaction to the timing of this. rod rosenstein said the indictment was returned this morning by a federal grand jury in washington, d.c. did rosenstein have any discretion as to when he would make this public? could he have delayed this announcement until tuesday after the president has met with vladimir putin? >> well, he did. the return needed to be made once the grand jury voted. but, of course, there is timing involved. but, look, lawrence, i have worked with rod rosenstein for a number of years. he's a straight arrow. my guess would be that he left description up to mueller's team about when this case was ready to indict and simply reported it out at that time. he is not someone that believes prosecutors get to play loose and fast. he doesn't believe in political strategies and i think he reaffirmed that today knowing that people that are leaking
information usually are not folks involved in the justice department and his strategy is to try the cases in the courtroom at the appropriate time. >> one more thing. rod rosenstein said he told the president about this beforehand the last time he could have spoken to him in person would have been monday. based on everything you heard him say about the way he notified the president, do you believe he might have been able to do that on monday, anticipate what a grand jury could do on friday? >> i think so. you know, people love to say that prosecutors can indict a ham sandwich. i think that whoever simplifies. but in this case the government knew it had more than sufficient evidence for a grand jury to return a true bill and i would expect that mr. rosenstein would have briefed the president whenever they met in return. it wouldn't have had to be just this monday. it would have been stages along the way as this case progressed. >> we will have to get a break in here.
when we come back, john podesta will join us. he will tell us what it felt like to read today's indictment description of how the russians targeted him, went after him and got him. and some republicans started working on impeachment today. the impeachment of deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. seriously. (burke) at farmers, we've seen almost everything so we know how to cover almost anything. even a "cactus calamity". (man 1) i read that the saguaro can live to be two hundred years old. (woman) how old do you think that one is? (man 1) my guess would be, about... (man 2) i'd say about two hundred. (man 1) yeah... (burke) gives houseplant a whole new meaning. and we covered it. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ i'm ray and i quit smoking with chantix. i tried cold turkey, i tried the patch.
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the indictment was returned today because prosecutors determined that the evidence was sufficient to present these allegations to a federal grand jury. i briefed president trump about these all gagegations earlier t week. the president is fully aware of the department's actions today. >> and that makes it all the more disturbing that this morning, already knowing that these indictments were coming, the president of the united states said this to the world. >> i'd call it the rigged witch hunt. i think that really hurts our country, and it really hurts our relationship with russia. i think that we would have a chance to have a very good relationship with russia and a very good chance -- a very good relationship with president putin. i would hope so. >> joining our discussion now, c ceo of the rothcoff group.
also a senior editor for the atlantic and editor. it seems there is a new item on the trump-putin agenda. that is extradition. >> right. let's also remember today is the day when british police traced the source of this nerve agent that killed a british citizen and it may be the same nerve agent that sickened two russian defectors in the united kingdom. there is a lot to discuss with the russians. we have a habit when we talk about this of just out of politeness maybe or old-fashionedness is what would a normal president say to vladimir putin. we have to also think about this, president trump is not there just to speak for america. he's there as a participant, maybe even a guilty participant. >> senator john mccain said today if president trump is not prepared to hold putin
accountable, the summit should not move forward. of course the white house said the summit is still on absolutely. but we will possibly never know what the president says to vladimir putin about this because he wants the meeting to be one-on-one. >> the president wants it to go on and it is very unlikely that he will make the case he ought to make on this, pressing the russians. i think it is right to call for him not to go. but he is going to follow through. one of the problems with that is by doing the summit, he's giving something to putin. he's saying i embrace you. i am elevating you and much the same way he did with kim. that's a foreign policy deliverable. that's a win for putin. in the midst of this, there is this case in russia which is part of a series of cases in the midst of this ongoing case here in the united states, the president of the united states
has chosen to embrace a man who is attacking the western alliance in a way that we have never seen it be attacked before. >> i want to play what donald trump's director of national intelligence dan coats said he would say to vladimir putin in a situation like this. let's try to imagine donald trump saying anything like this. >> my message would be, um, we know what you are doing and we know you know what you are doing. we know you run the shop. we know you're making the decisions. you can't pass it off to, oh, that's some hacker down somewhere where we don't know. we know what you do. and, so, you make the choice. but if you want to stay in this tit for tat, we're going to beat you. >> dan coats saying that on the same day that the president of
the united states just made a game of it as if it was a tv lawyer show referring to the old perry mason show and, you know, i can't get -- i'm not going to be able to get putin to confess to anything. >> well, look, dan coats is playing this pretend game where what if we had a president who was not implicated in these russian adventures, what would that president say. it is interesting to spk yecula. that's not the president that the united states has. he and vladimir putin have much more in common than the president has with dan coats. >> and, david, there has been a lot of talk from not just john mccain, but silence from most republicans, silence from mitch mcconnell, at least he talks about the indictment. he doesn't talk about who the
indictment didn't charge and paul ryan does say what the russians did was bad, but that's about it from the republican side. >> i think the republican side has a sense of culpability. i think some of them may see what's coming here. you know, this is not -- you'll forgive me for comparing this. this is not watergate. this is an ongoing attack by america's number one adversary on our democracy. dan coats has been saying this attack is continuing right now. so this is a major national security issue. and i think, in fact, one of the reasons that this indictment came out today because that rosenstein and mueller wanted to send the message to the russians that coats was talking about because they knew trump wouldn't send it. in other words, they're saying, look thr look, this is serious. we know it is serious. we are treating it like the national security threat that it is. and even if the president
doesn't mention it, rest assured, we are going to follow up on it and we are going to press forward. i think a lot of the republicans that you talked about are afraid of how that story plays out because unlike robert mueller, they are lost the plot here. they think it is political. it's not political. this is about america's national security and an ongoing threat that is not being addressed by this administration. >> david, from one of the great over looked questions for which we don't actually have an answer is to president trump, why are you meeting with vladimir putin? there has never been a white house rational for the meeting. there's never been an agenda identified for this meeting. we understand we are accustomed to heads of state meeting with heads of state, but we don't know why this meeting is taking place and we don't know why donald trump doesn't want anyone else in the room. >> we don't know and we do know. a line i have been using for two
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presidential campaign, including the campaign chairman starting in march of 2016. >> that campaign chairman was john to decembpo d podesta. and he joins our discussion now from california. and john podesta, thank you for joining us on this really important night. i just want to read for the audience the portion of the indictment that describes how the russians attacked you and how they got to you. the indictment says that on march 19th, 2016, a russian military officer and his coconspirators created and spent a spearphishing e-mail. they used the account john 356gh at an online service that abbreviated length think website addresses. they used the account to mask a link contained in the
spearphishing e-mail. the military officer altered the appearance of the sender e-mail address in order to make it look like the e-mail was a security notification from google, a technique known as spoofing. those instructions were followed. on or about march 21st, 2016, the officers and their coconspirators stole the contents of the chairman's e-mail account, which consisted of over 50,000 e-mails. i can't help but wonder what it felt like today when you read that portion of the e-mail with that line that says those instructions were followed. do you remember that moment where you clicked on john356gh? >> well, lawrence, there is a
little bit more of a back story to that. but i think the general observations of this have been well known, that there was a spearphishing attempt. it involved my assistant in my office. but what's important is that at the heart of this was a conspiracy, which is laid out in this indictment. crimes were committed by officers of russian intelligence that was done at the direction of vladimir putin, as our intelligence community has discerned. there were allegations of money laundering, of computer fraud and abuse, of conspiracy. it involved conversations with american individuals. and, you know, still we get nothing from donald trump. this was, i think, profoundly an attack on me personally and of course that's painful. but more importantly, it was an attack on america's democracy.
and i -- you know, i grieve for the country, really. >> now, you worked for two presidents. you were in the white houseworking for bill clinton, working for president obama. what would president obama do today about this? and especially what if president obama had a meeting scheduled with president putin on monday? what would president obama do? >> well, i think once this -- well, first of all, i think we have to step back a bit and say that mr. rosenstein briefed president trump before he left on this trip and yet he decided to go forward with this meeting with putin with no discernible agenda in front of him, an attempt to suck up to him, i guess. it is a little unclear what he intends to get out of it. but we know what president obama would have done because when he was faced with the situation where he was supposed to meet with president putin and president putin permitted the
person who had hacked into the national security information in our country, he canceled that meeting. there have been calls for trump to go ahead and cancel the meeting with putin. i doubt he's going to do that. but more importantly, i doubt he's going to really confront president putin. you know, he's blown it off on his trip through europe. he's compared it to perry mason. he said, you know, i'll ask the question again that the press wants me to ask. but when president obama was faced with president putin admitting edward snowden to russia, then president obama took the step of canceling that meeting. he took the steps of sanctioning the russians after it became known that they had interfered with our election. i don't see any of that coming from president trump. from the get-go in this
campaign, he has tried to really to adopt the russian foreign policy to dismiss what putin has done in yukraine and crimea, et cetera and now to dismiss the indictmen indictments, the guilty pleas from his national security advisors. so i'm not expecting much from president trump, but one can only hope he'll put america first and push forward with trying to get some resolution. maybe a first step would be to ask putin to extradite those 12 military officials who were indicted today in the u.s. court. >> yeah. the trump justice department has accused these russian military officers of committing a crime against you personally, along with other people, but a specific crime against you personally. do you believe you have a right to have your interests
represented by the president of the united states and demand extradition of those people accused of those crimes so that you can face them in a courtroom in america? >> i have a right, but i have low expectation that he'll do it. i have to say. you know, i think, again, his course of conduct has been to dismiss this. you know, he constantly refers to an investigation that's already yielded 35 indictments as a witch hunt, and all i have to say is that the hunters are finding a lot of witches and a lot of them are connected to donald trump. >> john podesta, thank you very much for joining us tonight. i know it was not easy to do that. >> no problem, lawrence. thanks. >> and when we come back, the impeachment of rod rosenstein. that is what some trump extremists in the house of representatives are now trying to do. liberty mutual accident forgiveness means
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special counsel's investigation is ongoing, and there will be no comments about the special counsel at this time. >> back with us, jill, david corn and david from. we are facing the house of representatives, the extremists there, the trump supporters talks about the possible impeachment of rod rosenstein. and, jill, i'm not sure they have read the constitution about the impeachment. it takes a two-thirds vote in the united states senate. where as of tonight there are probably zero votes for the -- to convict rod rosenstein in an impeachment trial. >> i think beyond the fact that there are probably zero votes, there certainly are not two-thirds. but in addition, america will stand up and fight that. they will take to the streets if that happens. the investigation is not nearly
over. it's clear that there are more indictments to come, and his announcement today of the current indictment stated we haven't indicted americans. you could almost hear the word yet at the end of that. there is certainly more to come, and it would be completely wrong, as well as politically unachievable. >> and, david from, i'm not sure they would even get the votes in that crazy house judiciary committee we watched on display the other day. but they would need a majority vote on the house floor, and i don't think they would get to a majority vote of house republicans on impeaching rod rosenstein. >> what you are hearing is the doorknob rattling as trapped men try to find an exit. to date, the republicans in the house have had a communications strategy for dealing with president trump's problems. they haven't at all had a legal strategy. this is about to get very, very real as you were saying and
there are almost certainly indictments of americans coming. and the realities of the situation are becoming harder and harder to yes, you can get people revved up by talking about everything, the fbi is bad, the fbi is unfair, the fbi has opinions, but that only works until this becomes a legal matter and then you need a defense and they haven't got one. >> and david, there's a fascinating passage in the indictment today about a candidate for u.s. congress. it says conspirators posing as guccifer 2.0 received a request for stolen documents for a candidate for u.s. congress. the conspirators responded using the guccifer 2.0 persona and sent the candidate stolen documents related to the candidate's opponent. i'm not sure what the timetable is for finding out who that candidate was, but there could
be some republicans who want to impeach rod rosenstein who might know who that candidate was. >> they might. and and have little bit of a different take than david and jill here and maybe you lawrence, but i think this is lutil ridiculous and absurd, going on about fisa warrants and unmasking and trump being wiretapped by obama. i mean their strategy just seems to be to muddy the waters. they didn't win yesterday, but they made everything look unclear and comp cllicated and serves their base. i can't tell you how many tweets i'm getting a day about trump kns saying this shows there's a deep state conspiracy against donald trump and we're all part of it, by the way. their goal is to prevent clarity
here even when indictments like today's gives us some semblance of clarity. >> let's take a look at rod rosenstein at work today. this is the person who some of these house republicans want to see in the witness chair in an impeachment hearing in the judiciary committee in the house. here he is being asked about his response to the president calling the investigation a witch hunt, and this is no surprise -- this is pure professionalism at work here. let's watch this. >> number one, the timing today on the eve of the meeting with president putin can you talk about that, and also the president described the mueller investigation as a witch hunt. your response. >> the timing as i mentioned is a function of the collection of the facts, the evidence of the law and a determination that were sufficient to present the indictment at this time. as i mentioned i did brief the president with regard to the nature of the investigation.
i can only comment on the evidence. the evidence reflects is reflected in our indictments and charges represents a determination by prosecutors and agents without regard to politics. and we believe the evidence is sufficient to justify the charges. >> jill winebanks, i did not see one republican member of the house judiciary committee yesterday who could win one round of questioning with rod rosenstein. i. >> i agree. yesterday's hearing was such a disgrace. it reminded me of the mccarthy hearings which i didn't see live but have seen videos of. i was ashamed to be an american with the attack on peter struck. there's no cause for it, and they accomplished nothing. he with stood the withering attacks on him. i think the best line of the day was i'm going to ask questions even though they grandmother told me if you're at a circus
don't jump into the center ring unless you want to look like a clown. but he went ahead anyway and he didn't look like a clown because he was one of the people asking legitimate questions. but there was no evidence that came out yesterday. so it's in stark contrast the facts and evidence presented to the american people today in the form of this speaking indictment. >> rod rosenstein tried to take the politics out of today's announcement. he said when we confront foreign interference in american elections it's important for us to not think politically as republicans or democrats. what do you think is the future for rod rosenstein's attempt to get the politics out of this? >> i think this is going to become a lot more intense. as i said before until now there's been a communications strategy, by the white house, by its allies on capitol hill. but they now are going to need a legal strategy. the situation is becoming dangerous, and it is clear more
indictments are coming. simply making people excited on twitter is not going to get them much farther than they are today. >> david from, david corn and jil winebanks, thanks very much for joining us on this important night. tonight's "last word" is next. actually, it's bulkier. always discreet doesn't need all that bulk to protect. because it's made differently. the super absorbent core quickly turns liquid to gel, for drier protection that's a lot less bulky. looks like good things really do come in small packages. always discreet. for bladder leaks.
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vladimir putin? >> scariest meeting in the history of the american presidency because this will -- he wants this meeting to be just putin-trump, no one else in the room except the two translators. that makes the two translators the most valuable translarpts in history because they will be the only witnesses to what these guys said. >> after that meeting was over if i was one of those translators i would have someone else taste my food. >> for the rest of what could be your short life if you're a russian translator. we know we can't trust donald trump's account and vladimir putin's account of what happened in that meeting. so we really will likely never know what happened in that meeting. and the other important part of it to go back to your why, we'll never know why that meeting happened, why did donald trump insist that no one else be in the room. >> and it my chat with stephen colbert is tonight's last word.
the russians have not given up in trying to interfere in our elections as brian will show you in the "the 11th hour" with brian williams which starts right now. the breaking news tonight in the mueller investigation, 12 russian intelligence officers charged with hacking the democrats and the clinton campaign. the stunning evidence the russians deeply infiltrated our political system. from the white house, zero criticism of the russians, no condemnation of what they did. in fact, the president's private meeting with putin is still on for monday. and a wild day in london. the president apologized to the prime minister for undercutting her in a recorded interview he now says is fake. and this is why the president wasn't allowed in central london today. too many people in the streets protesting against him as "the 11th hour" gets under way on a friday night. well, good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. day 540 of the trump administration and