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that does it for me. i'm david gura. join me tomorrow at 2:00 and 3:00 eastern. the news continues now with aaron gilchrist. >> thank you, sir. hello. i'm aaron gilchrist at msnbc headquarters in new york. a new low. months after being fired from the white house, ommar ossa comes back swinging. >> you have heard this tape. >> i heard this tape. >> you heard the president of the united states --
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>> i heard the president of the united states use not only the n-word but as bill pruitt described during that interview, other horrible things. >> wait until you hear what president trump just called her while talking to reporters at his new jersey golf resort. also a new attack. president trump is once again bashing attorney general jeff sessions for being missing in action in the russia investigation. and reversing course. days after being charged with insider trading, new york congressman chris collins suddenly suspended his campaign for re-election. >> the first comment on the tell-all book and said he used the n word on the set of the apprentice. >> do you feel betrayed by omarosa. >> she's a low life. >> low life. he called her a low life.
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let's go to geoff bennett joining us live from the white house. geoff, tell us about the president's reaction to omarosa. >> you saw the president during a photo op at his bedminster estate and asked by members of press pool to respond to the bombshell allegations by her new book and you saw his response there was to call her a low life. although we should make clear that she was one of the president's first hires here at the white house. and she had a high-paying and high-profile job following her allegations that the president -- then a private citizen, but he could be heard on tape using the n-word during the making of "the apprentice" and let go from her position at the white house when officials learned that she was close to getting her hands on this tape. she then further alleges that the trump campaign offered her a $15,000 a month contract to stay quiet about her experiences with
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the president while she was in the white house. the issue here is that she has a publicity problem and she's calling him a racist and contradicting claims made in her own book. we heard what she said to npr rachel martin saying she heard the president use the word on the tape firsthand and that is not what she wrote about. >> and once i heard it -- >> you heard this tape -- >> i heard this tape. >> you heard the president of the united states. >> i heard the president of the united states use not only the n-word, but as bill pruitt described during that interview, other horrible things, during the production of "the apprentice." >> you don't mention in the book you've heard the tape. is that new. >> it is mentioned in the book. >> that sounds like you just heard his account of the tape. did you actually hear the tape? >> i did.
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>> girl, did you read my book? >> so this is getting more and more surreal. but the white house has discredited her as a disgruntled former employee. >> geoff, i want to ask you, the president lashing out against his own attorney general jeff sessions again on fwi-- on twit. what did he have to say. >> he attacks the news media for not reporting more on what he sees as the connection between christopher steele whose work product was the doszyer and the deputy attorney general and then attacked jeff sessions by saying this, our a.g. is scared stiff and missing in action. it is all starting to be revealed, not pretty. of course the attorney general has recused himself in the russia probe. but remember, aaron, it was the start of the month when the president called on jeff sessions to shut down the russia investigation entirely. he said stop this rigged witch hunt and that prompted white house aides to walk back the president's own comments
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suggesting he was just venting but again we're seeing how the president is taking steps to further discredit the russia probe and one other point, when the president and his allies and aides say the russia investigation started as a result of the steele dossier, that is not true. we know from doj documents that it started after a trump aide, george poppa lop lus was bragging to an australia diplomat about the offer of dirt on hillary clinton. >> geoff bennett in the white house. thank you. and let's bring in our panel, kevin cirilli and franco ordonees and rachel gray from the intercept and i want to start with the omarosa story and the president calling her a low life. what do you make of that. >> it is interesting that anyone is particularly invested in her account of whether or not donald trump is a racist. i feel like his record on issues relating to the black community is long and pretty clear. the first time he ever appeared
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in the new york times was when he was being investigated by nixon justice department for his failure to rent apartments to black people. and whether or not her account is true, doesn't really have any bearing. it seems to me what we know to be the president's antagonistic relationship to people of color. >> kevin, i have to ask, the book is about to be out there. and ammar ossa is out there talking about it and had -- she's had issues with credibility in the past some would there is a credibility issue here today too. >> i'll leave that to viewers. i'm not sure anything new that could be learned from the book. the white house and senior officials are saying it is not true. within the last hour as we just saw on the tape, president trump calling her a low life. the relationship between omarosa and pruch trump dated back to t apprentice and it illustrating
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another point which is that during the campaign the president tried to surround himself with folks who had been with him and accompanied him during the time on "the apprentice" like cory lewandowski and the new type of political circle that surrounded him and you've seen them essentially one by one get the boot in terms of influence since the president has now tried to surround himself with more political types. so that is a interesting thing. and whatever -- remarkable ending point or maybe not the end but a remarkable point within the last hour, the president now referring to someone that he had praised as a, quote, unquote, low life. >> and kevin, is it fair to say that if the tapes that she referenced, if they do exist, it wouldn't make a difference to supporters. >> look, the rumors of the tapes have been -- have dated back for
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quite sometime. and so, look, no one should be using that word in the political sense. but to my knowledge, those tapes have not been made public and i have no reporting to back up that they exist. i only have reporting to back up, aaron, there have been rumors that they exist. >> franco, as kevin noted several people have left the white house over the last year or so. but she's one of the few people to turn on the president and to publicly criticize him in the way that she has and what do we make of that? >> i think we -- there is a lot to question that. the one thing that we got to remember is this so-called hush agreement that was put out there, the nondisclosure agreement offering omarosa a job for $15,000 a month that raises questions whether similar things were offered to other former staffers. not to speak out are questions that we'll be asking as we move forward. i'm not saying that that is what
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is happening in the past but i think that raises that question of a legitimate question now that she was posed with that offer. that could mean -- that could shed light on some of the questions. but, look, we are hearing little by little dribbles of information come out of this administration. as you point out. people are dropping very rapidly. but this is something that is really going to be -- i think we'll hear more. and i think the tapes that she has from inside of the white house that she's recorded and "the washington post" has heard as those come to light, i think we'll learn more. >> i want to point out for folks watching at home we're look at live pictures coming in of president trump at his golf resort in new jersey meeting with bikers for trump. that is where we heard him speaking a while ago and now posing for pictures here. i want to move on and talk about jeff sessions. we saw the tweet that the president put out about him attacking jeff sessions.
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is he trying to get sessions to quit, franco? that hasn't worked before. is that the effort now? >> there is no question about it that president trump is putting as much pressure as possible on his attorney general. as you point out, he has tried this before. it hasn't worked. he hasn't stepped down. it certainly seems like a strategy that he's tried on others and others have left. sessions has remained, has been very much credited by both sides of the party, both sides of the aisle for his ability to stand up to the president. you do have to question why does the president continue to do this? why is he attacking his own attorney general? it was trey gowdy who once criticized trump's lawyers for lashing out about some of the -- about some of the findings in -- that were coming out about the mueller investigation and about wanting to shut it down. he said act -- if you are
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innocent, act that way. and this type of lashing out by the president does reflect or does make it look like he has something that he's concerned about. >> brianna, in that tweet the president said it is all starting to be revealed. not pretty. i.g. report soon, question mark. how do you read that? what does that mean? >> understanding or translating what donald trump means in his -- in his tweets could be a full time profession. but i think that what is well established he's often making tweets as a way to distract of other things going on in his life and what continues to boggle me is we have this attorney general made this effort to attack all kinds of civil rights protections, and voting rights protections and that somehow the conversation revolves around his employment status rather than this is a man who needs to be curbed, whatever it takes. >> we'll leave it there. kevin and franco and brianna, appreciate your time.
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>> thank you. now omarosa is doing the rounds to promote her book. catch her on nbc tomorrow on "meet the press" and then on monday right here on msnbc on "hard ball" at 7:00 p.m. eastern. more questions than answers in a deadly plane crash in washington state. investigators say a horizon air employee was able to steal an empty passenger plane and take off and stay airborne more than an hour before crashing into a island. hans nichols is in the area and joins us now from washington state near where this happened. bring us up to speed. >> reporter: investigators are trying to scour the grounds where this crash happened and figure out what is happening on the ground. at the same time you have airport security and alaska airlines, the parent company trying to figure out what this individual had access to. he was in uniform. he had worked for horizon air which is a subsidiary of alaska for three and a half years and
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he had authority with access to the plane. the questions going forward are going to be, about the mental health of the individual. we may find out more about that in the next 24 to 48 hours and what the protocols are at airports at any runway for getting on the runway and taxiing and then taking off. i think there are a lot of questions, what they are saying is they're asking for patience and the ntsb and the fbi saying we shouldn't expect anything too soon. they still have a lot more information to gather. aaron. >> hans nichols in washington state. thank you. still ahead, turn to stone. robert mueller is zeroing in on roger stone's closest associates. could the walls be closing in on the president's long time friend?
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again we're following breaking news this afternoon. just a few moments ago president trump tweeted on the russia investigation. going after his attorney general jeff sessions. he tweeted this. i have never seen anything so rigged in my life. our a.g. is scared stiff and missing in action. is it all starting to be revealed? not pretty. i.g. report soon. witch hunt. joining me now, former acting director for the cia and msnbc global affairs analyst john mclaughlin and ryan reilly, senior justice reporter for huffington post and joyce advance and former u.s. attorney. joyce, i'll start with you. how surprising are these continuing attacks from the president on his own cabinet
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members and how damaging do you think this might be to the justice department? >> you could say that the president couldn't have paid attorney general sessions any higher of a tweet than though say he's missing in action on an investigation where the attorney general is recused and shouldn't be playing any role. to the extent he's missing in action, he's doing his job properly. but i think the more subtle point to your question is the damage that is being done to the justice department when the president rails day in and day out against doj lawyers and the fbi, the damage here is incalculable. and these are agencies protecting the safety of the american people and the president shouldn't do anything to damage that and he insists on doing that over and over again. >> ryan, to joyce's point about the attorney general, what is the president trying to accomplish with these attacks like we saw today in the tweet? >> i think undermining the mueller probe. he wants this to end. it is pretty obvious for a
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while. what is interesting, first of all we have to take a step back and realize how unusual this is for the president of the united states to be tweeting about the attorney general and sort of glassing him on twitter. it is very unusual. and i think sometimes it sets in to wake up to another tweet from him but this is unusual situation. but what is also interesting, and sessions is one of the most effective people in the cabinet in implementing trump's agend you and every speech that he gives a speech, you see the praise for trump. that is embedded in the sessions speeches so it is a one-way relationship where sessions is saying here is what we are doing and trump agenda is important and it is great the president is saying this and on the other hand you have the president blasting this guy he tired to this position and one of his long-time supporters. >> and john, your take on this. in the tweet he's talking about the relationship between crist fear steel who offers the dossier responsible for the
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russia investigation and the former associate department a.g.ohr and the company that used research against the dnc. why do you make this now. >> going after sessions is deplorable. this cuts right to the core of who we are as a country. we are nothing but a country of laws so to attack the justice department is attacking the very pillar on when ch our society is built. and that is the first point. second point i would make with regard to the dossier and what he's saying about that is -- this is really the big lie that both he and his attorneys are engaging in right now. this investigation did not begin with the dossier. this investigation began with wh a foreign diplomat told the united states, an australian diplomat told the united states that someone associated with trump's campaign, george papadopoulos, you may remember, that that individual had said to
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him he had dirt from the russians on hillary clinton and after a month or two, that australian diplomat passed that on and that is what started quite legitimately the fbi counter intelligence investigation which now the president and his attorneys refer to as a corrupt beginning. that is just completely false. so i think, aaron, that is my take on that. it's deplorable to attack the justice department this way and also to imply that this investigation would not be underway were it not for that dossier that the british intelligence officer provided. that is incidental to all of this. >> and there is a lot of elements and angles to this investigation. we know that investigators appear to be closing in on long-term donald trump confidant and the former campaign aide roger stone. this week robert mueller used a subpoena power to question stone's associates kristin davis, best known for running
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that manhattan escort service and questioning andrew miller and he is appealing a contempt order for refusing to testify. ryan, why would roger stone be the apparent focus right now? >> shocker, right, that roger stone is involved with shady stuff and that he might come under federal investigation. breaking news for the past few decades. but the situation you have to look at with the aide is that you have a situation where his legal bills -- he's not footing his own legal bill. you have an organization interested in undermining the mueller probe a mueller -- probe and supporting the president and that is way -- that is paying at that and that is to have an attack of the probe on the a broader level. >> the president's lawyers made a full court media press to talk about the special counsel investigation. rudy guiliani and jay sekulow taking over the airwaves on
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friday filling in as host of sean hannity's radio show. listen to this. >> i think if i were the attorney general, i would appoint a independent counsel and i would appoint the independent counsel for two purposes. purpose number one, to appropriately prosecute the people who violated these laws. comey clearly leaked a document that he wasn't supposed to leak. >> if you look at the scope and nature of this inquiry, the way it started, the corruption at the outset, it looks like an l illegitimate investigation. >> comey did agree he leaked his unclassified memo. was there corruption at the outset of the investigation. >> no. that is exactly what i was referring to earlier. that isn't the beginning of this investigation. it began as i said with the information from an australian diplomat to the u.s. government.
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and i don't know quite how to judge james comey provision of that memo to the press except to say that it wasn't -- was an unclassified memo so it isn't in the category of someone leaking a highly classified piece of intelligence to the press. if you compare it for example to the pressures that -- let's say devin nunes as the chairman of the house intelligence committee, if he compare that to the pressures he has placed on the justice department to release genuinely highly classified documents, i don't think they're in the same league. so i think the priorities, as enunciated by giuliani here are all out of whack. >> joyce, giuliani said it is as simple as tell the truth and there will be no perjury charges when dealing with a high stakes politically charged investigation like this. is it really that easy?
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>> it really is that easy. witnesses who have nothing to hide are often very much at ease when they are talking with federal prosecutors. i've sat down with them time and time again. the government seeks information and evidence from witnesses. where folks run into problems when their talking to the fbi is where the truth is damaging to them. although giuliani and sekulow both tried to characterize this as a perjury trap, it really isn't. problem is the core questions that go to the heart of this investigation are questions that this president can't answer honestly, apparently, because if he does he will subject himself to some form of criminal exposure. >> sean mclaughlin, ryan reilly and joyce advance. appreciate your time. thanks. and still ahead, race in america. one year after the deadly alt right rally in charlottesville, that city is on high alert. a live report on the ground, next. ♪
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president trump continues to call the russia investigation a hoax. nearly 100 times he's tweeted the words witch hunt to describe the mueller probe. now a new documentary is taking a closer look at the president's relationship with russia and the kremlin efforts to infiltrate
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western democracy. it is called "active measures". >> i have a particular type of mark. they go after someone with business resources, shady morals and political connections or aspirations. i've just described donald trump. >> the crown jewel for any intelligence agency is to recruit an asset inside your adversary intelligence agency. >> they seem to have premonitions of things that would happen that in fact did happen. >> and the question is who helps guide the decisions the russians were making. >> trump tower was a money laundering paradise. >> anybody who was anybody in russian organized crime bought a condo unit at trump tower. >> we have the serious intelligence operation in the home of the man that becomes president of the united states. >> joining me now, the director and writer and producer of the film, jack brian.
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so what inspired you to create this film. >> thanks for having me. i think we started in april, late march of 2017. we felt that while a lot of things were being reported on while people were interested in the story, people didn't have an understanding of the overriding operation that happened. it wasn't something that started in 2016. in some cases the operations that were really enacted toward the election were going on for decades beforehand and it was a playbook that the russians had done in other countries. >> now you've said that you expected to find a scandal in making this documentary but you ended up finding something different and something more. >> yeah. well we really discovered russia had been doing this to other countries and beat by beat the exact same playbook and the candidate donald trump was mouth piecing part of that playbook. in the sense of they would accuse -- in georgia and ukraine when georgia had back candidates in those countries, they would say the opposing candidates were
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criminals and should be locked up. in fact, one of the frequent refrains that would come out is they accuse a person of -- leading the party they are opposing to of being born in a different -- and they did the same thing in georgia and ukraine and paul manafort was running that campaign in the ukraine. >> so how far back do you go in doing your research and working on this and what stood out to you the most? is there a smoking gun in your research and investigation? >> i think what stands out is how far back shady associations with donald trump and the russian mob and general go. the first clear line of illegality was in 1984 when donald trump sold a russian mobster named david boggaden five condos in trump tower personally and it was the second building in new york designed so shell companies could purchase condominium units and it became a money laundering haven. >> so how do you explain the
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president's -- or trump's past relationship with russia and is there still a relationship between the two that you've been able to see from your work? >> yeah, it seems to have grown. i think the big turning point is the period between the early '90s and 2000 when donald trump goes along -- a series of bankruptcies and we get reports that -- that is the period the russian mob said this guy is not getting loans and we could provide capital and it was a way to move money out of russia and into america where the money was safe under a rule of law jurisdiction. >> so does this begin to explain what we've seen as of late with the trump and putin, the interaction between the two. >> i think you can't understand what is going on in the news on a daily basis unless you understand how it started and why and i think this film does -- does do that. it goes back and shows how these men circles became closer and
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closer together over the years. and the news becomes pretty predictable once you understand that. >> do you think -- we have the mid-term elections coming up in november. do you think this film will have an impact on the midterms. >> i hope it has an impact in the sense of people understand when they are getting information, why that information is there. they begin to be able to identify fake news that is being currently pushed by russia and going after this election and if we don't know what to look for we can't protect ourselves. so having an impact of people being informed and knowing when they are taken advantage of and then fools, yeah. >> definitely an opportunity to learn some things. we appreciate your time. >> and active measures comes out on august 31st. we'll be right back. now i'm doing more to lower my a1c. i take tresiba® once a day. tresiba® controls blood sugar for 24 hours for powerful a1c reduction.
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today people in charlottesville, virginia, are paying tribute to heather heyer, this weekend marks one year since she was killed wh a car plowed into a group of krount -- counter-protests. her mother spoke about how her daughter would want to be remembered. >> i believe america is about give me your tired, your por, your hurdled masses yearning to be free and that is the america i was brought up to be believe in and that is -- those kinds of things are what heather's focus was and that is what she was standing her to support. >> now tomorrow white nationalists plan to mark the anniversary with a rally in
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washington, d.c. a counter-protest is also scheduled. today president trump tweeted this, the riots in charlottesville a year ago resulted in senseless death and division and we must come together as a nation. i condemn all types of racism and acts of violence. peace to all americans. nbc news cal perry joins us live from charlottesville. good afternoon. >> reporter: good afternoon to you. you could hear that police helicopter overhead. it has been overhead all day. you could see the outer cordon of the check point behind me, a thousand police officers in a very small part of charlottesville, unprecedented and the state of emergency we've been talking about all day. here is what it looks like if practice. the check points are how people get into the downtown mall area. you have to cross through one of the two check points. the list of banned items is pretty absurd in not only its length but the items you are not allowed to bring. no hairspray.
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but people here in town are noting that you can bring your gun. that open carry laws here in virginia still protect that right, even under a state of emergency. by way of reporting, it is important to note when we talk to people all day, the folks that are behind me enjoying a late lunch and early dinner, people here have been dealing with this every day. they think about this all of the time. this conversation about not only race in america but the violence that happened. and it is something that this town has not healed from. when you talk to people here, they talk about that statue of robert e. lee still standing and causing that debate. these continued rallies by the alt right movement and they applied for permits to rally tomorrow and they were denied those permits. and so a lot of people in this town and across virginia and the country are focused on washington, d.c. and what could happen there tomorrow. >> cal perry in charlottesville, virginia. thank you. joining me now on the foeb is derek johnson. he's the president and ceo of the naacp. i appreciate you making time
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today. >> good to be on. thank you. >> i do want to start in washington, d.c. i want to ask you, what have we learned in the year since charlottesville? >> well unfortunately we've learned this administration is completely tone deaf to race in america. the level of xenophobia and tolerance of -- have increased and unfortunately this will continue until voters across the country make their voices loud and clear and in november during the mid-term elections to recalibrate where we are in this political landscape. >> i want to play something and get your analysis of something the president said. the situation in charlottesville that day was inflamed by comments that saturday afternoon from president trump. listen to this. >> we're closely following the terrible events unfolding in charlottesville, virginia. we condemn in the strongest
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possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides. on many sides. >> what was it about that "many sides" comment thattin fury ated so many americans. >> the president created a false equivalency. you had one group who was obviously demonstrating and expressing their racial hatred toward several communities in this country and you had another group who simply said that level of racial hatred is not acceptable. and so there was no -- there was not many sides. there was only one side of racial hatred. and unfortunately this president has been tone deaf to truly appreciate the pain that his comments and the the tone he set in this country created. >> we've been looking at information from an updated report from the southern poverty
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law center and found that since charlottesville 113 confederate symbols have been renamed or removed but still more than 1700 monuments in public places around this country. some people would argue that these symbols celebrate brave men who are a part of american history. but how do you view these monuments impact on our society in the current day? >> unfortunately, any time a group of individuals take up arms against our nation those individuals are seen as traitors. we're talking about vide-- we'r about those who took up arms against the nation. that is a history we should not celebrate. obviously we should learn from it but not celebrate. and if i had anything to do with all of the symbols of individuals who traded and -- against this nation and took up arms should be removed and as we -- we should learn from history but that is an example of what we should learn and what
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not to do in the future. >> now you did an interview with politico where you referred to president trump as racist and also told politico that the naacp has repeatedly invited candidate trump and president trump to address the members and declined to do that and your organization has met with every u.s. president since harry truman in 1947. what reason has the president given for declining your invitations. >> simply unavailable. we have not received any other explanation but unavailable but it is not just naacp. this is a president -- never to my knowledge accepted an invitation of an -- a traditional african-american organization, religious or secular to address that body. i have a strong suspicion he is in fear of being questioned about his true beliefs concerning race in america and the role of his presidency in furthering a nation that is more
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tolerant or continuing a tone off offin -- of intolerance. >> so what would the president need to do to redeem himself. is there some action the white house could take or what can they do, is there anything they could do to change their -- the perception of the white house and this president on this issue? >> well it is not a perception. it is a reality. and so if this white house would like to change the statements -- that they've made, the policies that they have advanced, the appointments they pursue all of which are reality, these are not perceptions, there is time to be more inclusive in the nominee they put forth. be more sensitive in the statements i've made and pursue public policies that advance the cause of equality of law citizens.
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congressman chris collins is suspending his re-election campaign following charges this week of insider trading. the three term congressman said this morning that he will remain in office until the end of his term in order to's agenda. he was the first member of congress to endorse donald trump in 2016. on wednesday he was arrested for multiple counts of securities fraud and wire fraud and lying to investigators. the congressman has pleaded not guilty and says he will continue to fight the meritless charges against him. joining me now, adrian elrod and shermichael singleton. is this a blow for the gop or
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was there pressure already for him to suspend the campaign? >> there was definitely pressure. when he gave that press conference a day or two ago, the expectation at that time was that he was going to say you know what, i'm not going to run for re-election, i won't allow for someone else to take this seat, i don't want to be an embarrassment. and he did not do so. so after that many from my understanding within leadership said you have to get out of here, we're already facing a lot of hurdles come on november. this is the last thing we need is a corrupt member of congress running for re-election so that democrats can utilize that in other places. >> and the state board of elections in new york says that it is too late for collins to be able to withdraw really his name from the ballot here. does this help or hurt his democratic challenger? >> well, i think it is left to be seen. the real question here is if his name is on the ballot do republicans try to run a very aggressive write-in campaign. even so that puts the republican
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whoever they choose to write-in at a huge disadvantage because it is just very hard to run write-in campaigns. but overall, in still hurts the republican party. whether or not he stays in office or he resigns or is on the ballot or not, it the type of culture of corruption that all voters, democrat or republican regardless of party affiliation can't stand when they feel like the system is rigged against them. and rigged in favor of those who are serving in public office. so the damage has already been done. and this is again another blow to republicans as they go into the midterms. >> and i'll ask you too about this challenger nate mcmurray. he is one of 51 democrats against electing nancy pelosi as the house speaker if democrats should take control. what are her chances of becoming speaker again if there is a blue wave in this midterm? >> bottom line is if nancy pelosi runs for speaker again, this is her race to lose.
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we saw this happen a lot in 2006. especially those running in red districts. brad elsworth to name one. some ended up supporting her. she won by an yeoverwhelming support in 2007. so it is her race to lose. but i do hope that the democratic party no matter who the speaker is allows some of this newer generation of fresh faces to come in and have some real leadership because that is how we're going to rebuild our party and help lift up some new faces. >> and let's talk about bernie sanders. there are several candidates who he endorsed who failed on tuesday. politico writes that bernie and his army are losing 2018. do republicans benefit from sanders backed candidates losing or would they rather have them win this hopes of a fractured democratic party? >> no, i think it certain
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benefits the party. going back to iowa, practically every candidate senator sanders endorsed have endied loeed lost. he looks to run for relocation. so it shows a messaging and organizational problem. many republicans try to figure out who may go against donald trump in 2020, we are hoping that it is someone like sanders because i think his message does not resonate with many americans as we have already seen in many races. >> and there is an increasing number of republicans who are calling for members of their own party to vote democrat in the house come november. former president george w. bush's speechwriter wrote this, if democrats gain control of the house but not the senate, they will be a check on the president without becoming a threat to his best policies. the tax cut will stand. the senate will still approve
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tariff judges, but the house will conduct real oversight hearings and expose both russian influence and administration corruption. what do you make of that? >> well, i thought it was a really interesting piece for a number of reasons. but you know, look, ultimately republicans can gets a creative as they want to here, but we have a blue wave coming in the house. democrats will take over the house in november. actually i think that democrats have a real chance of taking back the senate. and many republicans have been out there saying, of course democrats as well, but many republicans are saying we have to have some sort of balance in either thouse or the nat in ordr to clean up some of the corruption scandals and move the country forward. so again, i think that is what a lot of the american people population think as well. and that is again why you will see a blue wave come november. >> and what is your not? you are nodding. >> i agree 100%. there has to be a check on the
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executive. that is the way the founding fathers intended things to be. but as it relates to the republican party, i think that it is most certainly dead. this is now the party of donald trump. he has defined what it means to be a republican, conservatism as defined by folks like bill chris c krystle and george will. >> all right. we'll leave it there. thank you both. we should note that we'll be joined by congressman collins' opponent nate mcmurray in our next hour. now, still ahead, a new low. omarosa says there is a recording of the president using the "n" word several times. wait until you hear how president trump is responding. plus new information from seattle about the airline employee who stole a plane and crashed it moments after being pursued by fighter jets. hawaii is in the middle of the pacific ocean. we're the most isolated population on the planet. ♪
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welcome back. i'm aaron gilchrist live at msnbc world headquarters in new york. president trump making his first public comments on his former aid omarosa manigault-newman's new delegatell all book. here is what the president said in response just a short time ago. >> do you feel betrayed by omarosa? >> low life. she's a low life. >> she's a low life is what the president said. let's bring in our panel,

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