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next two months and we'll find out on election day if you're right. thank you all. enjoy. that's all for tonight. more on "tb daily," enjoy the rest of your labor day. see you tomorrow. of your labory see you tomorrow >> tonight, we have a special edition of "the beat" on labor day confirming donald trump is one of the most unpopular presidents ever, yet the paradox he is everywhere dividing and sweeping across culture ranging from alec baldwin and chrissy teigen, going after national football players for protests of the national anthem and criticized those who have their own leadership styles from madonna and jay-z and they
returned fire. a study found jokes targeting trump eclipsed most other presidents. over 1,000 in his first 100 days alone. tonight, we're joined by our expert panel including some funny people and we will discuss what is happening to our people in this age of trump. he has hit back on celebrity figures in this age unlike any other u.s. president. >> we don't need jay-z or beyonce or lady gaga. >> good friends. >> i want to praise arnold, if we can, for those ratings. even look at roseanne, i called her yesterday, look at her ratings. >> the women's march, you hear madonna? >> honestly, she's disgusting. >> wouldn't you like to see one of these nfl owners when somebody disrespects our flag, say get that son of a -- off the
field right now. >> it is a cultural conversation and deadly serious. to be clear, other presidents have taken eat from icon, but president trump's approach obsessing over famous people has boomeranged on him. >> instead of talking puerto rico and gun reform from nevada, all these horrible tragedies and border cause a twitter storm with the packers. >> he's now using sports as the platform to try to divide us. >> if your baby is going to die and it shouldn't have to, it shouldn't matter how much money you make, something whether you're a republican or democrat or someone else, we all agree on that, right? we do. >> in a powerful used deposition to bully others, we all lose. >> he's despicable. >> because we think politics is broader than just politics on the beat we featured our own
responses from cultural figures. >> these are my anti-trump depression glass. >> any dude that has a combover like that lies to himself all the time. >> he wants to be popular and a celebrity. >> come november we will save democracy or lose it. if we save democracy and we turn the house, he's gone. >> this is them rooting for the joker against their own interests. >> no one being above the law is like a foundational principle for us. >> america knew donald trump as a reality show before the reality show of his presidency, blending celebrity icons and having people like kim kanye and omarosa frame his national discourse. his notoriety extends beyond america's borders, a russian pop star writing a song about his ties to the election and that has become not culture but law as it is under investigation right now in the federal probe.
the united states has embraced a kinds of far-fetched hyper reality presidency today. that is a problem or institution, depending on your point of view. let's get right into it, with my panel. nancy giles an emmy award winning commentator. host of a giles podcast and star of where she doesn't know her own handle and from "the root" and melissa from "bustle" experienced "politico" in her own right. nancy, you look at that setup, it is different from other presidencies. in many ways it's the culture struggling to deal with a man many people didn't think would be a legitimate president in the first place. >> it is really weird. we are looking at someone who has crafted his whole life around being in the news and being a celebrity. it is clear he loves that and lives for that and wants that attention in any way, shape or
form. what's funny is, i've been thinking about this, does he care if it's negative attention. i think he does. he wants it to be positive. i think his ego is so huge, people saying bad things about him, that's okay, too. the other thing i find fascinating about trump, he's so thin skinned. if it's not praise, not something good, not something that flatters him, he can't handle it. >> right. it's all emotional. >> you raise a great point. there's an actual functionality with him. as long as there is trump and the celebrity that will lead seo searches and lead the news so you're talking about trump and celebrities instead of talking about the child separation policy. that cuts both ways, right? celebrities have been incredibly smart the ways they're utilizing their platforms for political messages.
do you know jane? she is a radio star and shows up at the video awards in a jacket that says "i really care and you should, too." now, you have a 17-year-old video star making a message. >> taking something melania in her way took and reframing it into a smart positive message. >> cool. >> fundamentally, he's a really sad bully. it all goes back to high school where people always assume it's the popular kids who start these fights and people that don't feel they fit in. have this out-sized ego and should be the star. he didn't win the popular vote, the president of the united states and yet all the celebrities just as big or bigger than he is, based on security, won't have anything to do with him. >> that hurts. >> you get to be president of the united states you are supposed to get to be friends
with jay-z and beyonce. >> who needs jay-z and beyonce? di. it goes back to high school who likes you and don't like you. >> someone who knows him very well, howard stern, done his own evidentliluti evolution in the celebrity space. donald trump has more media experience than most of us and most of the reporters in his campaign. he spent most of the '90s and 2,000s as a full time media employee. >> by this network, i might add. >> full disclosure, if you didn't know, "the apprentice" did air on nbc. here's howard stern trying to explain the void he's trying to fill. >> he loves hollywood. he loves the press. he lists for it. he loves people in hollywood and only wants to hobnob with them.
all this hatred stuff directed toward him, it's not good for him. it's not good. >> what's interesting about that, many critics of trump, stern says he voted information clinton, when he says he's not good for him, he's speaking of someone that knows donald trump basically saying this is an act, he actually is media, wants to be media and celebrity and is crushed at the punitive apex of his life and career winning the presidency he is more despised by those people he covets than any other point in his history. >> it's true. it's this horrible chasm that can't be filled. the thing he loathes that these people that he admires don't like him. >> i didn't know that. you find him unlikable. >> he's kind of horrible. going back to the point you made, what happens with this talk of the celebrity.
in a way, are we part of the problem or solution? here we are talking about trump, i'm sure he loves. his policies are despicable, policies hurting actual people and immigrants and families, you know, people that aren't in his -- i'm blanking because i get so angry. >> when you talk to communities of color say we've always been living in these times. when you say "these political times," welcome to the party. there is an activation even beyond trump. hard to imagine a few years ago, anne hathaway using her instagram account to talk about someone like neil wilson and sanctity of black lives and call for action to white people to pay attention to racial justice. some of the most interesting commentary is not around trump himself but the cultural moment. >> that's so interesting because that's what we want to delve into in this show, take nancy's
warning not looking just at trump but culture through the civil rights movement, music and obviously movies and i con graphfy that shapes people. there is a cynical version that roger stone a long time ago talked about, they thought they could use the myth and trickery of donald trump as a character to confuse voters and stone was quite candid about that. take a look. >> here's the fundamental question. is the pop culture in this country more influential now than its institutions? >> 15 seasons of "the apprentice" not only makes him a smooth television supporter, think how he looked in that show. high back chair. great hair and great makeup, decisive, running the show. he looks presidential. do you think voters, non-so fist cats make a difference between entertainment and politics?
non-sof fi non-so fist cats. >> roger stone is saying people don't know the difference. the culture and people not in day-to-day politics to try to grab ahold of that power to say american, dre democracy is on t line. >> i don't know if it's fair to say it matters. but name id matters. when you show up, it matters how notorious you are and celebrities always have an advantage and given that reality, how do you manage that for good. >> you are making a point when you say name id matters when alecia keys says, you don't know my name. >> everyone knew trump's name. before he became president he was part of the lexicon. you have rappers like lil wayne saying, i will fire my blunt
like donald trump. >> if you fire your blunt like donald trump, is that where you don't own the blunt or marketing rights? >> i don't think that's what lil wayne was going for? >> he wasn't talking about a leveraged buy-out. >> he was talking fire. >> and then the tax returns? sorry. >> okay. how do you go from being quoted as rappers as a signifier of wealth to being this white supremacist. it's a new type of celebrity he's unfamiliar with. he'll take whatever attention he can get. >> white. >> if it's the love of white supremacists, he could barely come across and denounce david duke. >> it's love. yeah. going back to the rappers and the way they quoted him, what roger stone said is very important, a lot had to do with how donald trump was portrayed.
people believed -- people not in new york, new york knows, made money off his father's discriminatory housing, continued to believe the central park 5 were guilty even when not proven but he loves publicity and craved the spotlight. people know that but people were convinced of this successful businessman. >> don't we say, don't believe the hype. >> it's like a jungle sometimes. it makes me wonder how i keep from going under. >> happy labor day. i would say only on "the beat" that may be true. i don't know. and dave chappelle and why he stepped into the political world for the first time on "the beat." >> i didn't know donald trump was going to win the election. i did suspect it. seemed like hillary was doing well in the polls, and yet i know the whites -- >> you're about to hear chapel
explain why he made his first ever political endorsement in the campaign this year. from street comedy to activism. billy eichner and why he's using comedy to get out the vote. >> we will go on a concourse to take us on a tour across the united states of america and the more guns you collect the safer you can be. >> and d.l.fugley. >> and how the trump culture is changing dating. you're watching the latest edition of "the beat" on nbc. msnbc. msnbc. (burke) that's what we call a huge drag. seriously, that's what we call it. officially.
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at home, with internet essentials. welcome back. dave chappelle has always been a political comedian because he critiques power and race but he has never been a political comedian until the endorsed ben jealous. we were thrilled when jealous and chapel came on "the beat." >> with me now is ben jealous candidate for the governor of maryland and comedian dave chappelle. my question, ben, after all your work in civil rights, why are you running for governor now and
dave, why are you endorsing him when you don't usually get involved in endorsing candidates. >> wen, you want to go first? >> i am running for governor because i have a vision we can finally fund our schools and finally pass single payer, so-called medicare for all. we can end this era of massive student debt by ending massive incarceration. ending massive incarceration is to finally legal lies cannabis period. and one of the reasons dave is here talking about our experiences when we were young and the need to have a set of laws to reduce the number of people in our prisons. >> as for me, ari, ben and i are like family, literally. like our fathers were best friends. my father was ben's godfather. i met ben in person when we were 17, when ben was at columbia.
we became fast friends. unbeknownst to me that plan was ben was to convince me to go to college. that failed miserably. >> dave made 750 bucks telling jokes in the park in 15 minutes and i thought, he might not want to. >> dave, had you gone to college, you might have become rich one day. >> that was the myth and legend. everything worked out better than i could ever imagine. >> you have to understand my god father was on a tear because dave was the first male in his family not to go to college since slavery. there was a batting average he wanted to keep up for the family and i was on a sacred mission. when i came and reported back his son could make 750 bucks in the park telling jokes, me was like, okay, i get it. >> listen -- go ahead, i'm sorry. >> no, go ahead.
> was going to say i have never even stuck my toe into politics and don't necessarily believe in politics, this is the first time i believe in somebody this much for a job like this because i know him so well. we came up together. i saw ben do activism his entire youth. when he got the rhodes scholarship, my father, i remember he said very pointedly, ben, i'm afraid you're getting the scholarship so you'll no longer be a threat to them, whoever they are. ben has always stayed true. when i got in trouble with my show and all these things, he was like my confidante. i would have him help me through very challenging personal and professional problems i had and like a rock for me. for the state of maryland, couldn't get any better. >> you're saying when you were in south africa, taking a break from a career in the u.s., you
were relying on him. what was his counsel to him? >> i think that's kind of private. the bottom line, i trusted him enough at a time i didn't trust anybody. he's never betrayed my trust. the trust in politics on public office is something the country desperately needs, especially this time, he's a very trustworthy person. the fact a guy like this could possibly sit in a seat like the governor's chair is very exciting to me and makes me feel more faithful and hopeful what our country can be. >> dave, you won an emmy for your "saturday night live" hosting -- >> i did. yes, sir. >> -- right after the election. everyone knows what you said that night. >> all my black friends who had money said the same thing when trump got elected, that's it, bro, i'm out. i'm leaving the country. you coming with us? no, i'm good, doug,awg, i will
this tax break and see how it works out. i will give him a chance and we the historically disenfranchised demand that he give us one, too. >> now, a year and a half in, you're out here campaigning for a democratic candidate. do you think donald trump has given all people in the country a chance? how would you say it today? >> without talking about the president, i'm campaigning not even because ben is a democrat, i'm campaigning because he's trustworthy. whatever party he ran under i will endorse this guy because i know him personally. i have no particular deep party affiliations. i think we just had eight years of a president who has a resume of social activism. i was happy with that president. this guy has a similar resume. he's been doing this as long as i've known him, advocating for people and i believe he's
sincere in his effort. i've seen the blood, sweat and tears how he got in this position. god willing if he becomes governor i don't think anyone will be sorry. he will do a great job. >> dave, you brought up the word president. do you think you're sitting next to someone who some day could be president as well? >> i told ben he could be president of the united states before there was an obama. that i knew of. i've always believed that. he chose another route. he stayed with this is community activism. >> back then, i told him i just wanted to be president of the naacp and that ended up happening faster than we thought was possible. >> ben, you know, he's a remarkable dude, man. i've seen him overcome his own personal demons. it's really terrifying to aspire to do anything outside of -- outside of the narrow boxes
society wants to stick you in. ben is a brave dude and a trustworthy dude, and he's retained all of himself. i think this is a great thing that he's running. that's what i mean. as a matter of fact, it's dangerous for me to even step into the political arena. poopity-scoop. >> that's how we end all our interviews. my last question, i know you guys have to go, starting with ben, since you're with chappell campaigning with chappelle a lot of candidates would like to do. is there a test that anything keeping it under the rubric of keeping it real goes wrong? >> i have to tell you, man, when we started off this journey, there's a story i tell about how dave saved my life down in jackson, mississippi, when i was
a young organize fighting a governor trying to make a black college a prison and dave showed up with a bag of pot. things could have gone very wrong. we were spared because the police officer recognized dave from def jam and wanted tickets with the show and didn't search his bag. people are comfortable with us talking about what's real. we were once two much younger black men very afraid in that moment spending a long time in jail or prison. you shouldn't have to be that exceptional to be justly treated. that's, you know, a lot of what fuels dave's politics and mine. excuse me. a lot of what fuels dave's comedy and my politics we both survived an era young black men were the most murdered in the country and incarcerated on the planet and both found a way to lift people to a higher place and both recognize unfortunately too much what we went through as
young people and young people still go through and we want to see it change because we know how smart they are and how they can contribute if our system was a little more fairer and country a bit more level and country more just. >> dave, final word? >> you may never see me endorsing somebody again. i really do believe in the product. this is the real deal. this is the real deal. >> it's fascinating, we don't often see a duo like this learning a little bit about your history with each other and learning more about both of you and why ben says he wants to step into the arena. fascinating. thank you. >> thank you. taking ambush comedy to the street is hitting the street for activism and a surprise, back in 30 seconds. k in 30 seconds let's fix it. play "connection" by onerepublic. (beep)
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>> what they ought to do is show their respect for the people that helped secure the country -- >> maybe that's the social justice golden parachute calling one all along. >> some conservatives think they can get mileage out of putting a wedge between hollywood and liberals. there is a friend of "the beat," actor billy eichner recruiting stars for the opposite proposition, working with will and others to get younger people registered for the midterm. polls show they're a threat to trump, 60% disapproval higher than older americans. eichner has just come on "the beat" to talk about this. here's my interview with him, and another show getting a reboot, "designing women." >> donald trump has long been obsessed with celebrities and many not feeling trump and there's resistance. you can find a friend of the
beat and star, billy eichner and stars in a horror show and the trivia and punchlines exposing the growing divide called democracy. >> would you sign this good-bye card? >> i would love to sign this. >> freedom of the press. >> the more guns you affair along the way, the safer and more american you become. >> joining me to talk politics, comedy and the mid-terms and new push he has to encourage voter turnout and fight republicans and change who turns out. that was a key part of dems winning the senate seat in the state of alabama and electing connor lamb in pennsylvania. and we go to billy eichner, are democrats surging because of
your work? >> absolutely. i was watching that and thinking what a hero i am. sometimes i'm so busy doing the work i forget. >> you forget to reflect? >> how much i have meant to american democracy and the republic in general. i've gone to a few museums lately, history museums, i walked around thinking, god, i'm a great person, i don't have to be here. >> you're very funny and known to be funny. >> thank you. >> we did show some punchlines go to a dark place. ha-ha, freedom of the press is in danger. >> we're satirizing a dark moment in our history the way many people are. with billy on the street, for many seasons it was a silly absurdist pop cultural obsession. now, culture and politics are fully merged, i believe. to not talk about that would make the show feel completely irrelevant. i think ryan murphy felt that way with the prior season of
""american horror story,"" i was on, too and a lot are feeling that way. one of the reasons i wanted to glam up the mid-season campaign, it's an optimistic approach opposed to something complaining and angry and snarky. >> you talk about that difference. the cliche about any artist or celebrity getting involved, right, is maybe you don't know what you're talking about. you seem to be channeling feelings a lot of people have and you're a good communicator. >> as horrendous as i knew trump would be what's truly remarkable that he's somehow worse than i thought. >> yes. >> a lot of people in washington say that. >> i guess, like i say, i said in the tweet, as awful as i knew he would be, there was a more hopeful part of me, when he first got elected thinking, hey, he's from queens, i grew up in queens, i'm a new yorker and
ai've been award of new yorker all my life. >> queens is where i remember seeing you. >> you just lost your glaad award. >> i don't even know what that means. >> queens is the most diverse borrow in the most diverse city in the world. i grew up there and trump and his dad grew up there as well. there was a part of me that thought now that he's getting all the press maybe he will step up and be more normal and not as disturbing and anti-american i feel he is in terms of his values and choices. he went extreme in the opposite direction. i was ignorant and naive and no supporter of his and i hoped for something i was wrong to hope for. >> one of the funny things you do on your show is "for a dollar," we'd like to play with
you. for a dollar, billy, name someone on trump's cabinet that lasted over a year? >> scott pruitt? >> good. >> you think i'm some idiot, because i'm on a couple of tv shows i don't know who was on trump's cabinet. who was on "designing women"? exactly. >> very sophisticated women. >> if i can name someone on trump's cabinet. >> sara bernhard. >> no, she wasn't. >> i took a risk. >> for a dollar, who will pay for the border wall? >> not me. >> for a dollar, what is easier to buy in america, an iphone or a gun? >> i would imagine they're equally easy to purchase? >> you use that from a millennium point of view problematic? >> i'm no millennium. we needed that off the street long before we were in parkland
and we just went through the lack of gun safety laws in almost every state in the union. it's just shocking. >> you are getting your first netflix special. >> i'm doing a netflix special. >> it's huge. i love watching comedy on netflix. it seems it came later in your career. >> i was busy. >> they asked earlier? >> i don't remember the date. what is this mccarthy hearings. >> in full disclosure i have always been fan of your comedy. great to see you using your platform to get young people involved. "billy on the street" we appreciate you. >> you need designing women in your life. >> what is that? >> do you want to hold that? this is the thing i do. it's an appreciative amount of time. when can i meet rachel maddow.
>> you do four or five more appearances on "the beat?" >> that's all i have to do, not worth it. >> then we hear from an even bigger trump critic, d.l. huguely. huguely. take this left. if you listen real hard you can hear the whales. oop. you hear that? (vo) our subaru outback lets us see the world. sometimes in ways we never imagined. heartburn and gas? ♪ now fight both fast new tums chewy bites with gas relief hugue
huguely. joining me now one of the political kings of late night comedy. it paved the way for dave chappelle and celebrated its 21st anniversary last year. d.l., you tell a lot of jokes. what does it mean to you when someone can't take a joke? >> that's a little self-indulgent. like when i see things happening right now in terms of civility. when you have a president lowering the norms of civility, when you call people a racist name and mass sognist names and zenaphobic names, you can't be shocked when people represent you. people are talking about sara
huckabee and the red hen thing and how that was. i remember when people started carrying guns. the tone for this kind of discourse has happened a long time. it's disingenuous to act like you haven't contributed to it. >> you're talking about that word, become a flash point word, civility, discourse. >> right. >> these are things we hear them, sometimes it sounds like a thing people in power demand in a one way direction. is that what you think? >> totally, i don't understand what i means. i can say this. this president is racist, homophobic, zenaphobic, islamophobia. he's definitely lowered the blue book on the presidency. i don't think we will ever have a president in a tradition -- before you can have political idealogical disagreements but
humanity, you have administration officials quoting the same scriptures used to keep black people slaves and now using it to keep young immigrant people in cages. disingenuous. and when they said he will change in the primaries, he's exactly what you said he was. it's not blind, now you support him. i'm not saying everybody that supports donald trump is a racist, his supporters will think racism is a disqualifier. >> you are going to the test, everything i say i am and i am what i say i am. >> for such a plainspoken man, why are so many people trying to explain what he meant. if he speaks his mind all the time, why are there all these interpreters. bottom line if i was in a car with somebody and i committed a crime the reasonable argument is the person with me was an
accomplice. i think anybody who votes for him in spite of all the things he has done would have to be incompetence. >> let me talk to you about the jokes i've been to, people in the media, if they get a joke from the president, in either party. >> wow. >> that's usually like a wow. you're big time just to get name shame. that wasn't the reaction donald trump had to these moments? donald trump has been saying he will run for president as a republican, which is surprising because i just assumed he was running as a joke. >> no one is prouder to put this birth certificate matter to rest than the donald. that's because he can finally get back to focusing on the issues that matter, like, did we fake the moon landing? >> what does it tell you that
then, as now, he has what appears to be a true deep emotional problem with being roasted? >> i think you can see the way he governs, the way he interacts with people. he's a bit of a bully. you can come into this administration with a rather pristine reputation but you don't leave that way. i think people are literally selling their souls and their reputation. you can tell they don't believe what they say. one day, guiliani is saying he said a thing and the next day, i don't know what's harder for guiliani to keep his teeth in his moute h or head. everybody is definitely becoming more slimy and dirtier because they're hanging out and trying to contort things that don't make sense. either we're a nation that believes in-laws or we don't. to laud north korean dictators and russian dictators, and then
to denigrate american football players is -- they're tough guys and these other guys are just sons of b -- it's ridiculous and says more about us as a country than it does about him. >> you're going back to the core point, what is the audience, what is the nation? what do we want to do about everything? we're in this together. a perfect guest on this topic, d.l. huguely. >> thank you. >> if you liked hillary clinton, would you date a trump supporter? your kids do that? the political divide is growing. and blurring the lines between politics and comedy when we come back. en we c ome back with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast... ...and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer. giving you the power to actually lower your cost. unfortunately, it can't do anything about that.
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we're back with a look at how dating is actually changing in this trump era. political divisions are sharper than ever. i'm joined by two have opposing political views. think how this played out when millions saw the political dynamic on this season of "the bachelorette." the couple got together despite their polarizing politics. he had been criticized for going intelligence what she stands for. >> it made it harder on us as a couple. >> that was a major thing we had to talk about early on at the beginning of our relationship. >> i was really worried about it
that i might lose her from that. i felt like she knew who i was as a person and i didn't stand behind those likes. >> we have exclusive new data how this is playing out across the nation a year and a half presidency. ok cupid reports they've seen a 64% increase in dating profiles that proactively mention politics since just last year. another dating website called plenty of fish says 65% of democrats say they will not start conversations with their political opposites. that number slightly lower for republicans using the site. about 52% say they won't start those kind of conversations. ok cupid also notes that since trump's victory they've seen an increase, 40% of users who say they would prefer "similar politics" over if t"good sex." and 34% of plenty of fish users say they'd rather have "bad sex for the rest of their lives than date a trump supporter." these are real news topics.
we just report hem. i'm joined by liz plank a senior producer for vox and maz aficionado. liz, what do these numbers tell you and is it concerning that so many people are not openminded in this way or does it make sense because it reflects their values? >> i think republican or democrat we're all dtf, we're all down to fix the tax code, right? so it doesn't really matter where we stand on the political spectrum, i think we can have conversations about this kind of stuff. but this new data is similar fought data that we saw even leading up to the election. i actually went to the rnc in 2016 and set up a democrat and a republican on a blind date. >> we pulled that in our research, which i don't think you even knew. let's take a look. >> you'll be voting for donald trump? >> yeah, probably. what about you? >> i'm voting not for donald trump. i actually would be fine if my taxes were raised if it meant that -- >> you're such a goodie two shoes. >> would you really care -- >> can we get a little more
wine? >> when a cop tells me to do something i'm going to do it. i have no problems with a cop -- >> how often are you interacting with cops? >> i interact with them quite a bit. >> i don't think you're fris kds on the street regularly. >> there were conversation that's i think both of them had not had about the policies they seemed for, and more importantly the reasons why they stand for them. that conversation is rare. >> on a first day i actually am turned off if someone wants to only talk about politics with me considering that's what i do most of the time during the day. i want to hear about what are their religious values, what are their moral values, what do they want in their future, and hopefully it's not just surrounding whether or not they like donald trump. >> would you be open to potentially dating across the aisle? >> i would. >> politically. >> i would. and i have. >> you have. and you are a pretty recognizable trump person. if someone looks into you they're going to know you're -- >> i am and i have. but when i was in law skiel got asked on a first date by somebody. i said yes. we set up the first date. i had no idea his political views. obviously, he knew mine. i wake up in the morning to a text with a picture of myself wearing a make america great
again hat from the sky saying he can't stand for this and is canceling the date. i got canceled on. he did try to come back later and ask me on a date. i said no at that point. >> is it a sign, though, that something has changed and donald trump is partly responsible for it? because i think it is a fair and factual observation that he is not a bridge builder and so there's a reaction to that where we see more democrats than republicans saying they don't want to go with the other side but that's partly because they feel quite clearly a year and a half in he's attacking the other side -- >> so it's a climate of fear, right? democrats or just progressives generally are less i think willi willing to date across the aisle and more generally even have conversations with people across the aisle because they feel afraid and they feel attacked as you said. and that's something also republicans are better at. they have a lot -- they're happy to have conversations with people that don't agree with them. i sit down and talk to a lot of people i know and friends
specifically that are democrats. it's not that we want different things. it's we think differently about how to get there. i think when we don't sit down with people we disagree with we never get the chance to see the similar things we know we want. >> and i very much appreciate you both being here. madison gesiotto and liz plank. thank you so much. ahead, late night's take on the trump era and why the president finds it so hard to take a joke. finds it so hard to take a joke. and packages. and it's also a story about people. people who rely on us every day to deliver their dreams they're handing us more than mail they're handing us their business and while we make more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country, we never forget... that your business is our business the united states postal service. priority: you ♪ if you have moderate to thsevere rheumatoid arthritis, month after month, the clock is ticking on irreversible joint damage.
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make sure it's not with someone smarter or funnier than you but that's a lesson many say donald trump has been learning the hard way. comics turning around and using the president as a punch line as they stap into the cultural pulse of this political moment. >> trump insulted me on twitter. i was going to tweet back immediately but thought i have more important things to do. then i thought shouldn't he have more important things to do? >> trump remains on vacation but it's a working vacation because he's still lying. >> i agree with him. there was blame on the white supremacist side and on the nazi side. >> trump had a meeting today with his kgbff vlad mish putin. we haven't seen an american so owned by a russian since rocky 4. >> most embarrassing performance by a president. >> once you pop you can't stop. >> trump is the only person that still watches who wants to be a millionaire and thinks, me. i have to phone a fox and friend. >> trump isn't even really the
president. i would say he's more like -- >> the ring leader of a criminal enterprise. >> that does it for our special show. we hope you had some laughs along the way. we want to wish you and your family a very happy labor day weekend. we'll see you back here tomorrow live at 6:00 p.m. eastern for the beat. trump's people. let's play hardball. good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington, and welcome to the "hardball" labor day show. and for purposes of this holiday we're calling it the real characters of trump world. president donald trump campaigned on his star factor, as the host of the reality show "the apprentice," and that mindset has followed him all the way into his presidency where there's never a slow newsday and every action he takes falls somewhere under unprecedented. for the next hour we're going to