tv The Last Word With Lawrence O Donnell MSNBC October 30, 2018 7:00pm-8:00pm PDT
so that's an absurd thing for a town this size and for a community that's 60% hispanic. it's ridiculous to think that only one location is here to suit the needs of 13,000 plus voters. >> i want to let you know we were just back from a reporting trip to dodge city, kansas, a town where voter suppression efforts have captured the nation's attention. it's the historic town in kansas where there's only once place to vote. this year they moved that one polling place way out of town. we are just back from going there to check the reason officials gave for having done this. you're going to want to see what we found. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you again then. it's time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." >> good evening, rachel. with all the voter suppression techniques we've been looking at in the last couple years, the dodge city story is in so many ways the easiest, quickest one
to tell. the one polling place gets moved literally out of town. >> yeah. i mean, in kansas on average, a polling place serves about 1,200 voters. in dodge city, it's one polling place for 13,000 voters, and they took it out of town. it's like in trying to get the local officials there, the clerk who's made these decisions is a republican clerk who's been in close communication with the republican secretary of state who's running for governor. trying to get answers is a saga. >> can't wait. tomorrow night? >> yeah. >> thank you, rachel. the president went to pittsburgh today you with the on invitation and with no one waiting to welcome him when he arrived at the airport. usually when air force one lands anywhere in this country, the local mayor, no matter what the mayor's party is, is there to greet the president. the governor is usually there, the united states senators, local members of congress often fly on air force one with the
president. none of that happened today. no one in american politics, republican or democrat, wanted to have anything to do with the president's uninvited, largely unwelcome trip to pittsburgh. republican speaker of the house refused the invitation, so did the leader of the united states senate and the democratic leaders of the senate and house of representatives. pennsylvania's republican senator refused to accompany the president to pittsburgh. and pennsylvania's democratic senator refused to join the president in pittsburgh and was not invited to join the president in pittsburgh. pittsburgh's democratic mayor said if the president is looking to come to pittsburgh, i would ask that he do not do so while we're burger tying the dead. we don't have public safety we can take away from what is needed in order to do both.
the president ignored the mayor's plea not to come. the president didn't care that his security requirements would put further strain on the city that was also going to require massive security arrangements today for the four victims of that mass murder whose furnnera took place today. dr. jerry rabinowitz, the brothers, and daniel stein. his nephew, steven hallie told nbc news peter alexander today that he felt it was a stab in the back when donald trump said that the mass murder could have been completely prevented if the tree of life synagogue had just one armed guard somewhere on the premises. >> this is a case where they had an armed guard inside, they might have been able to stop him immediately. >> donald trump should have just said, you know, our hearts and prayers go out for the people of pittsburgh and everybody
involved and kept his mouth shut. >> you felt like he was blaming the community? >> that's exactly what it felt like. >> steven hallie said his family refused a condolence visit from the president today. air force one was on the ground for over three hours in pittsburgh today. but the president spent only 13 minutes in the tree of life synagogue where they were welcomed by rabbi jeffrey meyers who didn't invited the president but had always said he would welcome the president to visit the synagogue if the president did decide to come to pittsburgh. thousands of people filled the streets of the squirrel hill neighborhood making maneuvers challenging for the presidential motorcade. one of the organizers of the protest told buzzfeed he's fostered an administration of white supremacy and he is not welcome in our time of mourning. the protest were filled with families joining together to say the president of the united
states is part of the problem that they are now dealing with in what always was their peaceful neighborhood of squirrel hill. the president intensified the local resistance to his visit this morning when he made an inane public announcement in an interview saying falsely that he could end birth right citizenship in the united states by executive order. that is a lie. the right of every baby born in the united states to be a citizen of the united states is guaranteed in the constitution. it would take a constitutional amendment to change that. the republican speaker of the house instantly said the president's statement was false. paul ryan said emphatically, quote, you obviously cannot do that. you cannot end birth right citizenship with an executive order. the president obviously made the statement as a campaign statement. that was campaigning today. the president knows it's impossible to do this by executive order, but he wants to energize his most hard-core anti-immigrant supporters, some
of whom might not think he's anti-immigrant enough in his first two years as president since donald trump has not built one foot of the wall that he promised them he would build. the mass murderer who went into the tree of life synagogue on saturday believed donald trump was not doing enough to stop immigration, and that's why, that's why he wanted to kill jews. because he believed that the jews at the tree of life synagogue were supporting the arrival of immigrants who he believed were coming here to kill us, and that is what donald trump told that mass murderer was happening. donald trump told him and all of us that murderers are coming across the southern border, rapists, gang members, animals he calls them, murdering gang members and middle eastern terrorists are coming to get us across the southern border. donald trump has been pouring that message into the brain of
that mass murderer for years now. and on saturday the mass murderer's final social media post before he headed for the tree of life synagogue with his assault rifle and three handguns said this about the hebrew hebrew immigrant aid society. hias likes to bring invaders in that kill our people. screw your optics, i'm going in. and so he went in with his assault rifle. and so pittsburgh's jewish community buried four today. they will bury seven more. in pittsburgh the hias said the president's lie this morning about ending birth right citizenship by executive order was exactly the kind of thing that the mass murderer must have been very, very happy to hear today. >> back here in pittsburgh, the head of the jewish agency that protection refugees says the president's announcement is offensive and ignores that the government's hatred went beyond
anti-semitism. >> this murderer was trying to check more than one box. he checked the jew hate box and the refugee and immigrant hate box. >> joining us from pittsburgh is tami heps. thank you very much for joining us today. i'm very, very sorry for you and your community have suffered this weekend and are going through this week. you were one of the people who signed an open letter to president trump saying, president trump, you are not welcome in pittsburgh until you fully denounce white nationalism. what was your reaction today when the president decided to overrule the mayor's idea that he not come until after the dead has been buried? >> i think we had known for some time that it was quite likely he was going to ignore all of that and come to our city. what came to a real shock is his
announcement about ending birth right citizenship. it felt like a direct confrontation with what we said in the letter, the kinds of words and deeds we were looking for from president trump to show that he was really committed to healing our nation and back tracking from the kind of hateful rhetoric that led to this murder in the first place. so we started the day feeling like we had no idea what the visit would bring, but it was clear that what we tried to say as a community was what we were looking for him for leadership was something that he wasn't willing to offer. >> how would you characteristicize the protests today from being in the middle of it? >> it felt to me very peripheral, very somber, very unified. we began with beaches, but much of it was like a funeral cortege. we talked through the streets of our neighborhood past houses, past as close as we could get to the tree of life synagogue, past
our police precinct. we sang jewish songs of healing. when we stopped a block we, we performed a ritual where everybody ripped a piece of black ribbon, which is what mourners do, and we held it high in the air ed and a moment of silence and it really was peripheral. it was people from all different backgrounds, not just jewish people engaging in this traditional jewish mourning custom to show that we are coming together, that despite the divisive rhetoric we're hearing elsewhere within the squirrel hill community, we're coming together, we are supporting the families, we want to help heal the mourners as much as we can. >> if you could have had 60 seconds with the president today, what would you have told him? >> i think much of what i would have said is in that letter.
we who signed the letter and more than 100,000 people who signed it online, we all believe that the kinds of hateful rhetoric he's using for political ends is what led to this act. this wasn't a man operating in isolation with evil in his heart. this was a man who heard what president trump was saying and felt like it was up to him to act. what i would have said to president trump is these are how these deeds happen. you're not the first politician and you probably won't be the last, but you are the one who can listen and change course. you are the one who can stop in the middle and say i'm not going to keep using this language. it has led to the murders of the people not just in squirrel hill but in other communities and houses of worship where his divisive rhetoric has incited people to act on things that people weren't acting on in this way prior to his presidency and his becoming a candidate.
>> tami, you see a direct link, causation possibly between the things the president says, especially the things the president says about people trying to cross your southern border, and is mass murderer's decision to go in on saturday, as he put it? >> he said it himself. if you look at his last public statement, he himself drew the connection. >> you mean the shooter drew the connection, not the president? >> right, yes. the murderer, he drew the connection. he reflecting all the lies that he heard in the previous week about migrant families in extra america, he was the one who said that he felt like hearing all of that that he had to do something about it. even if that statement hadn't been there, i'm a student of history. i understand what it means when somebody in power uses the language of white supremacy and the tactics of white supremacy
to rally a base. but the fact of the matter is, murderer put it right out there. i don't really even need to make the argument. anybody can read that statement. >> adding to our discussion now, adam server is joining us, senior editor for the "atlantic" and ruth marcus, columnist at "the washington post" and msnbc contributor. ruth, i want to get your reaction to what you saw the president's trip to pittsburgh today. >> well, i just felt so sad that we're at the point where an american president visit to the site of a terrible tragedy itself creates controversy and discord, and that is because of what this president has done before this tragedy and actually as some of the interviews just
earlier in the aftermath of the tragedy suggesting that it could have been averted by armed guards. we're used to seeing presidents as consolers in chief, and the fact that something a community would welcome with a normal president, a regular president, all the presidents we've had in history, itself became divisive just tells you about where we are with this president. and then further more, on the day of this trip and the day of these first set of just, you know, horrific, so-sad funerals, to open it up, i began my day seeing the news about the president's plan on this executive order, which, of course, will never pass muster. but the president's plan on this executive order on birth right citizenship, which is, of course, antithetical to the
jewish religion and the imperative, which is a both jewish and american value to love the strarnnger among us an treat them as one of our own. it's what compelled this murderer. what a terrible way to start the day. >> adam, in the "atlantic" you wrote the apparent spark for the worst anti-semitic massacre in american history was inflamed by a u.s. president seeking to help his party win a midterm election. adam, you were one of the first writers if not the first to put this clearly in this linkening between what we saw in the murderer's social media posting where he said i'm going in because of what he believes is happening at the southern border which is what the president tells him. >> i wouldn't say i was the first one to put it together. the killer put it together.
the killer put it right out there. he did everything but draw a map. pivoting off something ruth just said, look, the vast majority of jews in america are liberal, and they understand from their history that when politics in a country organizes itself around a national identity that demonizes so-called foreigners or actual foreigners, that eventually they're going to come after us. that's why you see people resisting in this way, why you see jews protest angle american president coming to visit because they know ultimately that kind of politics is going to affect us even if it doesn't necessarily right now because the president is not -- doesn't personally display a lot of hostility towards jewish. he has jewish grandchildren, he's got a jewish son-in-law. no doubt if he could spare jews from the results of his nativism, he would, but he can't. by continuing to embrace this
rhetoric and pushing the caravan as an issue in the way that he does, he's shown that he's indifferent for the collateral damage it causes. >> tammy, i'm sure there are mixed feelings in the community in pittsburgh. can you give us what you're feeling is about the opposition to the president coming today within the jewish community and the support of the president coming today? >> look, for what we did today, obviously, we gathered together, thousands of people from our community who felt like president trump was not welcome on that day in particular and not welcome until he understood our demands about what it would take to heal this country. we understand that there are people for whom it was healing to see president, and we tried your best and the remarks we made today to be respectful of that. we're a diversity community of people, and we try to craft something that would be healing even for people who might not
have agreed with the message. that's why we focused on our pain and our mourning and trying to find our collective strength bring ita back together. my hope is that we empowered the people who wanted to see this event happen and for the people who did not, we did not detract from their own healing. >> there were two layers of protest today, one that tammy was involved with there on the street, thousands of people, and the other by other politicians, paul ryan, mitch mcconnell, chuck schumer, nancy pelosi, the republican senator from pennsylvania who was invited and refused to accompany the president to pittsburgh. he was boycotted by public officials and by politicians within his own party in this trip today. >> well, i think there's obviously a political dynamic behind the scenes we're not exactly privy to yet.
but i would speculate that the president believes that his putting all his chips on nativism is going to help the republicans win the midterms and his fellow republicans in leadership do not think it's working. and would prefer that he not do that. so they're not going to endorse his attempt to have it both ways, to gin up the american people against a frightening foreign enemy, and then try to act as though the consequences of him doing that aren't what they are. >> and today on this same day, republicans on the house side condemned one of their members, steve king, who is their most noted white supremacist, nationalist among them, that's happening at the same time donald trump is trying to push in steve king's direction, trying to echo steve king. we're going to have to take a break here. thank you for starting our discussion tonight. coming up, republican congressman steve king, as i just said, the one of the most
notorious members of the house of representatives. he's been repeatedly condemned by democrats for nativist and nationalist comments. now he is finally being condemned by his own party, and he is on the verge of possibly losing his re-election bid. and tonight, the robert mueller investigation has taken a turn that no one could have possibly seen coming. it is possibly the weirdest development yet. we will have it. your insurance rates skyrocket after
. republican congressman steve king was the donald trump of anti-immigrant bigotry and white supremacy long before donald trump became a politician. he's been condemned over and over again by democrats in washington and around the country. and today, finally, finally, steve king has been condemned by the republicans. at the same time that a new poll reveals that steve king might be on the verge of losing the congressional seat that he was reelected to two years ago with a 23-point winning margin, republican congressman steve king, who has been a assigned -- not steve king. republican congressman stivers, who's been assigned the job of helping to reelect the republican congress, finally condemned something, this congressman king said.
congressman stivers, who is the chairman of the republican congressional campaign committee said this. congressman steve king's recent comments, actions, and retweets are completely inappropriate. we must stand up against white supremacy and hate in all forms, and i strongly condemn this behavior. now, here is what did it. after a trip to austria, steve king said that austria's freedom party, which was founded by a nazi, it is the 21st century edition of the nazi party, steve king said this about them. if they were in america furbishing platform that they push, they would be republicans. and the biggest problem with what steve king said there for republicans is that it is true. in the two-party system here in the united states, a nazi has to choose one, there's no question that choice would be the trump party. the republican congressional campaign committee might feel free to condemn steve king now
because they might believe he's orphan his way to losing anyway. a new poll shows him in a statistical tie with his democratic opponent. that's in a district that steve king won by 23 points two years ago. joining us is a member of the judiciary committees. he's a native of iowa and represents a california district. he's campaigned on behalf of his opponent. and former republican congressman from florida. congressman swallow well the republicans decided steve king is hurting them and they have to say so. >> i welcome that. good evening, lawrence. it shows that they have a red line for the last year and a half many of us have been wondering what's the red line? when will the republicans speak up and is this is not what we stand for.
the question is will they also condemn the person who talks just like steve king, and that's the patriots, donald trump. i was born in that district. my dad was chief of police. my parents are republicans and we grew up around a lot of republicans. and the republicans in that district don't believe in what steve king is espousing. i had the privilege of riding around that district. what people in that district are talking about is health care. lawrence, so many times we would go to a kc general store and you would see a collection jar at the store for people pooling money together for someone who has a health care condition or suffered a medical accident. that's what's top of mind there, not culture wars that steve king is pedaling. >> david, would the republican congressional campaign committee be giving up on steve king, condemning him if he were ten points ahead in the polls? >> well, either way, i think
you're seeing them distance themselves from steve king. it may not be a written rule, but if you have to condemn white supremacy, you're losing the debate. the reality is this is a member of congress who has suggested that civilization needed to be restored, and it couldn't be restored with other cultures' babies. those are his words but to eric's point, this is a narrative that now has been embraced and accepted within a republican party where, look, there are good people within the republican party, but we are looking for good leaders and we don't find them in steve king and donald trump. frankly, in the state of florida where you have a gubernatorial candidate entangled in a similar type of narrative. at the end of the day what happens is this pivots to looking at the failings often of republican policies. and we know the republican policies have left certain communities behind, particularly communities of color. that's where the narrative comes full circle because when you have voices like steve king, you
can't defend the failings of conservative economic policies that have left others behind. and that is where we are missing voices within the republican party today. >> it seems that the king district could be a real bell weather for the republicans. if steve king is down 22 points from his last election, which he is now in the polls, that's a stunning drop making this a tie, making this competitive. if he were to lose that or even win it at the current polling margin by one or two percentage points, that would indicate other wipeouts where they don't have a margin going in. >> that would be a big night for democrats, lawrence. that means we would go 4 for 4 in iowa. there are two seats in iowa where we have cindy axny, candidates that are much more competitive. i don't think it bodes well for
the other two seats for republicans. republicans in that district, they would much rather prefer steve king to be talking about these economic issues, but i think jd's success will be that he's knocked on republican doors, he's listened to republican voters. his phone bankers are calling republican households and they're just talking about kitchen table issues while steve king is in europe supporting white supremacist groups. >> the issue now, the united states treasury about to borrow the largest amount ever in its history. and donald trump and the republican party that steve king is supposed to be part of promised to reduce that debt, not increase it. >> lawrence, in a period of economic growth, the president every day talks about economic growth. the last time we saw a trillion dollars deficit was in the recession inherited by barack
obama. now the republicans have passed policies that expand this deficit. we're going to find out one week from today whether the american people accept that type of fiscal policy or not. we're going to know early on the east coast if you look at carlos cabello, barbara comstock, new jersey, pennsylvania, we're going to know whether it's a blue wave or not, and all signs are pointing there tonight. >> we'll be watching steve king's district in iowa. thank you for joining us. please stay with us for more discussion. when we come back, this is -- it's impossible to describe in the space that i have right now. it is the strangest twist yet in robert mueller's investigation. and it's about robert mueller himself. that's next. ♪ a moment of joy. a source of inspiration. an act of kindness. an old friend. a new beginning. some welcome relief...
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. oh, the hollywood screen wire who will someday bring robert mueller's investigation of the patriots to the screen had a very, very good day today. the story took a turn today that is both deadly serious and takes the story into gang that couldn't shoot straight. the fbi is investigating people who apparent tried to destroy robert mueller by creating fake stories accusing robert mueller of sexual misconduct in his past. robert mueller has a press spokesperson who almost never speaks to the press. but he did today to protect robert mueller. mueller spokesperson peter carr said, when we learned of allegations that women were offered money to make false claims about the special counsel, we immediately referred
to matter to the fbi for investigation. according to a report in the "atlantic," a woman named lorraine parsons has been e-mail reporters that she first offered $20,000 by a man claiming to work for a firm called surefire intelligence, which had been hired by a gop activists named jack berkman to make accusations of workplace harassment against robert mueller. jack berkman is a right-wing radio host and conspiracy theorist. horror lain parsons hasn't been willing to speak directly to reporters, but today a second woman also said that she was contacted by this group that calls itself surefire intelligence with an offer to pay her to discuss encounters with robert mueller. at the same time those women were contacted, jack berkman posted a video to facebook where he claimed without evidence at
all that robert mueller has a history of harassing women. surefire intelligence has been tied to a pro-trump conspiracy here's the named jacob wall. today jacob wall told nbc news that he was not involved in a plot to discredit robert mueller, but then he stopped answering questions about his involvement with surefire intelligence. nbc news discovered that the phone number for surefire intelligence redirects to jacob wall's mother's voicemail. jacob wall is about 20 years old. we're not sure if he lives with his mother. but one of the lessons of the day is do not, and, i mean, do not try to frame robert mueller if your phone number redirects to your mother's voicemail. joining us now is natasha bertrand, staff writer at the "atlantic" and msnbc
contributor. you have the floor. this one is a complicated one to describe. >> to say the least. we first started hearing about this this woman a couple weeks back when she started contacting reporters saying that she had received an odd phone call from the man who identified himself as an investigator that had been hired by jack berkman. it's important to note that no woman has actually made any allegations against robert mueller. the only allegations that have been made are that surefire intelligence and jack berkman have been working in conjunction to try to pay off women to make false claims about mueller just eight days before the midterm elections. >> natasha, i was reading that the women specifically said that never happened. nothing untoward ever happened with robert mueller. >> right of course.
so we have been unable to confirm lorraine parson's identity. we don't even know if that's her real name. the law firm where she supposedly worked with mueller has no record of her working there. but she's not the only person that has come forward saying surefire intelligence contacted her asking her for dangling information about robert mueller. another woman came forward to me today and told me that about eight days ago she received a letter from a man also claiming to work for surefire intelligence who asked her for information about mueller that he would be willing to compensate her for. we could make fun of jacob wohl all we want, but this is a huge deal that the special counsel's office has decided to refer this to the fbi. when we get a statement from mueller's office, any kind of statement, it is an absolute earthquake because he never comments. this is extremely rare. when we saw he issued this
statement in response to reporters who were asking about these allegations, we knew this was a moment we had to really jump on this story and that it was not something that was going to go away on its own. >> ruth marcus, one characterize that most criminals share is that they are stupid, and it is why they are criminals. it should not surprise us when some criminal conspiracies become laughable as soon as you bring them to the light of day, but watergate had some bumbling gang that couldn't shoot straight components too, but that was a conspiracy ultimately that brought down the president. >> this is both laughable and tawdry. i mean, this is sick. it is sick if it's true to try to gin up false charges of
sexual misconduct against a man, robert mueller. there's no evidence that he's ever been engaged in this kind of sexual misconduct. it's important to remember some of the folks involved in this were also involved in a really, really ugly and painful episode involving seth rich. seth rich is the young man who worked for the dnc who was killed in a street robbery in d.c. and some of the people involved, particularly mr. berkman, were busy pedaling a false and very painful conspiracy theory that this was part of some kind of terrible hillary clinton democratic plot to shut him up. so these aren't just bumbling people. some of them are bad people. >> natasha, one of the women in your reporting indicates what they were trying to get her to do was talking about her experience with robert mueller in 1974 in a law firm in 1974
where she worked briefly. >> right. seemed like they were just fishing for any kind of information that they could get at one point they reached out again to this woman, jennifer cobb, who is a professor at vermont law school asking her about her experiences with mueller. even though she has no experiences with mueller, she has never met mueller in her life. she goes on cnn sometimes and she talks about him as a guest expert commentator, but she's never actually met him. as it turns out, this was just the same person fishing for information over and over again trying to see whether he could get any kind of details out of these women. it's really just like ruth said, really sick and twisted that at this moment in the #metoo era this is being used to try to damage robert mueller. >> with the fbi on the case, i think we're going to be learning more about it. thank you both very much for joining us. when we come back, we are now one week away from votes
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of the $19 trillion in debt. woodward says, how long would that take? trump says, i think i can do that fairly quickly because of the numbers. woodward said, what's fairly quickly? trump said, i would say over a period of eight years. it would be a miracle to eliminate the national debt which is what he was talking about over eight years. what donald trump has done instead is created the single biggest increase of national debt in history, over 1$1.3 trillion is the next step in our debt, the next increase in our debt that they are going to force us into because of the trump tax cuts. donald trump doesn't want that to be a campaign issue and that's why he's talking about birthright citizenship. carson swalwell back with us. carson, you can see in the last year, but especially because of this campaign, donald trump
trying to selt tt the agenda foe campaign so candidates suddenly start yelling about birthright citizenship, for getting about the national debt. on the same day the country says it has to borrow 1.3 trillion. forget about health policies and preexisting conditions. donald trump wants you to talk about either a caravan, as he describes it, or birthright citizenship. >> that's right. it's a strategy of staring, suppressing, silencing. starring at immigration, suppressing voters by calling into question whether there will be illegal votes, and trying to silence the free press and intimidating them. >> what should it be about in these final days? >> it should be about health care, paychecks and our democracy. you see that republicans are very, very uncomfortable talking about their votes to gut the
affordable care act and take away the protections for preexisting conditions. and they think that they get a pass by talking about a family member who has a preexisting condition, that actually makes it worse, lawrence, that they voted to take away protections of people that they know. and then, of course, when it comes to the tax cuts, 83% of the benefits going to 10% of persons and corporations in our country. and then a culture of corruption that runs rampant in washington under a president who promised to drain the swamp. it's only gotten dirtier. they don't want to talk about that, so these are hail marys with just a few seconds left, and they're not going to connect. >> what about, for example, in iowa where you have been campaigning for house candidates there, what about the tariffs that hurt the farming sector in the midwest? >> they don't like being hurt by china, but they also don't want to see a real strategy carried out by the president. i heard from so many of them
saying they feel like this is just a scatter shot approach where we should be prosecuting the case with our allies, and now they're starting to hear from their bankers and they're not going to be able to afford these tariffs any further. and they also don't want a bailout. they don't want welfare from the president, they want to be able to work and stand on their own hard work and trade to 95% of the world which is the economy outside the united states. >> is the national debt having any echo on the campaign trail? >> you know, in iowa it's a state of people who are very, very fiscally prudent and they expect that the government will be responsible with their investments. i see that everywhere, lawrence. of course, a debt isn't bad if it's responsible debt that makes investments in schools, in health care, in graining the grid through infrastructure, but that went through the pockets of top floors in the building and
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time for tonight's "last word." >> another weird thing happened on the way to the rally. take a look at this clip from saturday of trump carrying an umbrella and boarding air force i. okay, so there he is just about to board with his umbrella, and time to close it up, and he just leaves it. okay, he just walks away. here you go. there you go. you can't just drop an umbrella when you're done with it. it's not a wife.
>> stephen colbert gets tonight's "last word." "the 11th hour with brian williams" starts now. tonight an attempt to smear robert mueller has been handed over to the fbi for investigation. as for the work of robert mueller, his investigators have now spoken once again with steve bannon as all signs begin to point to roger stone, his friend of 30 years. and with a direct line to his base, the president launches a theory that he alone can reverse a constitutional birthright. tonight we have kornacki at the big board with the numbers and the late word that the president has lost kanye. all of it as "the 11th hour" gets underway on a tuesday night. well, good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. day 649 of the trump administration. pittsburgh,