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posted this this morning and i just lost it. how about this? young parker honoring michelle obama in that unbelievable portrait in a custom made mille dress. that wraps up this hour. more news with my friend, hallie jackson, live in none other than the state of florida. >> sunshine state, girl. that's right. we'll see you later this afternoon, steph. we're coming to you live from cape coral after president trump's rally down the road in ft. myers, final push to election day. this morning, five days out with the state in play, in a state of flux. plenty of wild cards. we'll tell you where they are and the president's more intense immigration push now to keep some of those seats red. how he's playing up fear in his final push with a close r look t the new dark ad that has a lot of folks talking. from florida, to georgia. one race in a dead heat, prompting two presidents, donald trump and barack obama, to make
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a last-minute trip. but not before the queen of talk tries to talk democrats into voting. that's right. oprah winfrey making her 2018 campaign debut today with new worries now from both parties that we will actually know a winner in that race until election day. we'll talk about our campaign of road warriors out in force again today, blitzing the country. all spread out, as we wake up to a sunny start on this thursday from florida, on the road as well. let's start with a look at where things stand right now. as the president keeps up his campaign sprint to the finish with stop two of 11 in missouri, new poll out shows democrats have reason to be maybe more optimistic about the house. look at this washington post/schar poll. most competitive house districts around the country and while that's close to the margin of error, the post points out republicans won these districts
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in 2016. i want to start with nbc's kelly o'donnell back at home base in the white house. in a couple of new interviews, the president seems, in my reading, kind of resigned to gop losses in the house but much more confident in the senate. >> he has certainly been briefed on those realities. at the same time, this say person who didn't believe he would win in 2016, so remains with some optimism. part of the president's final blitz here is not only all of the rallies. you were at one last night in florida. i'm heading off in the morning tomorrow. and all of these opportunities to connect with voters and to talk to voters. in addition to that, he's doing some interviews and doing some of that behind the scenes sort of feeling and is being questioned about part of his closing argument, tactics and things that really rise up to be among the most controversial aspects of the trump presidency.
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one of those is where is truth in the trump white house? he was pressed by our colleague john carl about the issue of truthfulness. here is what the president had to say. >> well i try. i do try. you try too. you say things about me that are not necessarily correct. i do try. i always want to tell the truth. when i can, i tell the truth. sometimes it turns out to be that something happens, there's a change. but i always like to be truthful. >> one of the things the president had promised was by today, november 1, a plan for a 10% middle class tax cut. that has not materialized. i can tell you that i've receive aid press release from one of the relevant committees that would be responsible for that. keeping that in play, saying as soon as they get back to washington, they're going to work on that. well, that's a long way off in political terms. of course, congress is not in session now. all of them back available to campaign for themselves or others in their party. but a little bit of a promissory
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note that we're going to get to that tax cut in the new year. hallie? >> the maybe a bit of an election week i owe you, if you will. safe travels to montana, my frie friend. see you there this weekend. i'm joined by david jolly, no longer affiliated with the party, by the way, kimberly atkins bureau chief for the boston herald. and here with me in cape coral, mark caputo for politico and politico florida and friend of the show, of course. thank you all for being here on this day. kimber kimberly, i want to start with you. we kicked off this show with new numbers from this poll but it also finds there are major wild cards. voter turnout always a wild card but also concerns over immigration. i think that's interesting, particularly given what kelly just laid out about the president's final push, focusing on immigration here. >> yeah. that has been the closing argument of president trump heading into these final days
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before the midterm election. not just focusing on immigration, something that republicans have wanted just about this entire election to be about, at least one of the top issues, but this very, very hardline view of immigration that casts migrants who are making their way toward the border from south america, really casting them as villains and casting democrats as people who are aiding villains. the president today, of course, tweet tweeted a very controversial ad this morning, which is being condemned as appealing to the worst racist tendencies of people in his base but that seems to be where he is. that's where republicans are, by extension, as we head into these final days. >> and kimberly, you teed this up well to play a piece of that ad that you were talking about there. i want to show it and congressman, i'll get you on the other side.
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watch. >> sure. >> i will kill more. i don't expect [ bleep ] is that i [ bleep ] killed two. and i'll kill more cops too. >> congressman, as kimberly notes, this is being condemned by democrats as racially divisive. what is your reaction to this? >> it should be condemned. it's disgusting. it's a reflection of the fact that when your party doesn't have a message that can inspire people, you try to scare them into voting. we know it's been often said and i believe it's true, the tax plan is not selling. the immigration build the wall part isn't selling because they haven't accomplished it. they're not able to sell health care. this is a president who, for the greater part of the year, has been the subject of an
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investigation by bob mueller. one tool they have -- it is effective. the reason they play it, it's effective. this notion when the president says we are being invaded. that actually works. the fear strategy, if you will, it works. i debuted a radio show yesterday here in the state of florida. over the course of two hours, one time the board lit up with callers is when we talked about the caravan issue and when we talked about birthright citizenship. it is at the heart and soul of where republican politics are right now. it is down-ballot republicans that will run on this notion that we're being invaded and have to shore up our southern border with the military. >> and, congressman, you put this in the political frame, which i think is where this conversation belongs. the president was talking about this. he was all over it at the rally last night, first of 11 stops he's making over the next five, six days now. mark, you were there. i saw you. we said hello briefly, because you were working and so was i. the president is continuing to stoke this when it comes to
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immigration. so are the people, as david jolly points out, that are running down-ballot. ron desantis. last night's campaign event showcased the classic hits of trump revival, including a twist on the "lock her up" chants with "lock him up." >> right. desantis, there's been -- now in a similar way that clinton was run by against trump gillem is being run by against desantis. they're calling him a crook. >> let's play some of that. watch. >> maybe we should impeach gillem as mayor of tallahassee. >> from day one, he has gone completely to the gutter on this campaign. not talking to voters about what he wants to do, what he wants to achieve but rather trying to
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distract them with side shows. >> well, that kind of sums up the entire race. it's been a race about race from the beginning, august 29th, first day of the primary when desantis said the phrase monkey this up, warning voters not to choose gillum and out-of-state robo calls from a racist style uncle remis voet voice and these attacks that gillum has called racist in themselves because desantis is saying a black man can't be successful without getting the money illegally or from someone else. >> in his race against bill nelson. how do you see this playing out? will this immigration tactic that the president is pushing, for example, be effective here in florida? >> demonization of any political
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enemy will. and we can't overlook the remarkable irony in the fact that republicans in florida are suggesting because the city of tallahassee is subject to an fbi investigation somehow that disqualifies president gillum and yet the president is subject to one of the greatest investigations we've seen in an era, but he still remains qualified to lead a nation. they are demonizing opponents. it's such a dangerous territory, particularly coming off the mail bomb story, tree of life story, the continuation of demonizing political opponents is very dangerous territory. it's why people like me, now a former republican, are looking to cast my vote elsewhere. >> david jolly, appreciate you coming on the show today. i'll ask kimberly and mark to stick around, as we talk about how candidates are fanning out across the country today. beto o'rourke. and the wisconsin governor has
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we are just five days away from election day and americans are already voting in record numbers, more than 24 million early votes have been counted already, twice as many people who had cast their ballots at this point in 2014. we have road warriors covering this story across the country. in wisconsin, a governor race getting tighter this morning. republican governor scott walker and his democratic opponent, tony evers, are locked in a dead heat with five days to go. pulling out all the stops to try to hold on to this seat. house speaker paul ryan on a bus tour with the governor. we find kasie hunt traveling with them. fill us in on how this bus tour is going. what's the final pitch? >> reporter: well, hallie, it's not the same one that the president is using, let me tell you that. we just had an event here. you can see governor walker behind me. we are expecting him to come chat with reporters. if i move out of the way, that's
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where we're going. neither he nor the senate candidate, nor the speaker talked about immigration here at this rally. we're at a factory with -- you know, it's a relatively smallish crowd but a lot of supporters of the governor here. it's a small venue. pretty typical for what you would normally see in a state-wide race like this. and, again, they talked about taxes. they talked about health care. they didn't talk about immigration. in fact, the word "trump" never came up. she said she had given tammy baldwin, her opponent in the senate, a nickname that she thought the president enjoyed. otherwise, he was very far off the radar. instead the focus was on jobs, the economy for people here in wisconsin. in some ways it surprised some observers that scott walker is in such a close fight. there was an expectation that he would have lost one of his previous races, potentially, given how toxic the politics in
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wisconsin became around union issues, and there are some observers who have said that they didn't think this opponent was necessarily his strongest. but here we are. and i think that says something about the national environment. speaker ryan, of course, has been the target of president trump, very clear he has no interest in talking further about that. he disappeared right after his speech, barely stopped on the rope line and is now backstage. here is what he had to say about governor walker a little while ago. >> we also have the greatest governor in the country. scott walker inherited serious problems in wisconsin. he said he would do what was needed to do to fix our problems, and he fixed it. >> reporter: walker is coming now. hallie, i'm going to actually stand here and see -- i think we've got governor walker here in a moment. so if you'll give me a second, keep your eye on my camera and come out to this. >> yes, ma'am. kasie, go for it and we'll come
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back to you if we hear from governor walker more. >> taking you live on msnbc right now. >> all right. you ask away. >> all right. well, there's governor walker. there's kasie hunt. let's see if he takes any questions. >> test one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. i can sing a little song for you. >> this is how the sausage is made, folks. >> test one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. >> great to be out at yet another manufacturing plant, talking to people across the state. as we mentioned, we have more people working in the state than ever before. wage growth out paces the rest of the country. it's a clear difference between more jobs and higher wages in the state versus my opponent's plan that would lead to more spending and higher taxes, and that would cost us jobs. tony evers wants to raise taxes
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on income taxes, property taxes, gas. that will set us backwards. we have a plan to keep wisconsin working for generations and keep moving forward. we've got more people working in the state than ever before, the best schools in the nation. we've got lower property taxes, working families and senior citizens than before we started. it's a choice between moving forward -- we've turn this had state around. things are much better off than we were before. lowering premiums in january, increases choices and we will always, always, always cover people with pre-existing conditions. as i said before, that's personal to me. my wife is a type i diabetic. my brother has a heart condition and my mother is a cancer survivor. like many candidates in the state, that's a personal issue. we will always do that going forward. it's ultimately about whether we want the state to go forward with more jobs and higher wages or go backwards with fewer jobs because of higher spending and higher taxes. >> do you think there's undecided voters out there that you're going to sway?
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>> i do. the big lie out there about pre-existing conditions is something i hear all the time. people want to hear it directly from me that we'll always cover people with pre-existing conditions no matter what happens, we'll codify that, the exact same language that's in the affordable care act, we'll make sure everyone living with a pre-existing condition is covered here in the state. [ inaudible question ] >> i'll leave issues up to the federal government, for people running in the house and senate. my focus is on wisconsin, making sure we're able to provide more opportunity and freedom for people in the state. even yesterday we appreciated the one thing that did involve the federal government involving us, waiver for welfare reform. we believe freedom and prosperity don't come from the clumsy hand of the government but empower people who live their own lives and control their own destinies through hard work. >> the birthright citizenship,
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what do you make of all that? >> long-time friend, grew up down the block from me. he is here advocating for the election because he cares about his three kids and the future of the state of wisconsin. i'll leave that debate up to him and others at the federal level. >> the president is closing out the midterm campaign broadly with an ad that features a mexican who killed americans, he ties it to democrats and the migrant caravan. do you think that tone at the close of the race will help win your election and do you approve of it? >> the focus here in wisconsin is a direct message to the voters, we've come a long way together, turned this state around. we put more money and actual dollars into the schools than ever before. we've tackled problems with health care and did it while still protecting people with pre-existing conditions. there's a lot of issues in washington. >> i'm talking about those issues, though. >> that's at the federal level. from our standpoint, the things we talk about are the things we hear from people. my opponents have attacked me for traveling the state.
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i will always travel the state of wisconsin. i go from one end of the state to the other. people want to hear how can you help to ensure my kid can work somewhere close to home, in this community. what are you going to do to tackle health care and still protect people with pre-existing conditions? they like our plan to do that. what are you going to do to protect the workforce? we put more actual dollars in the schools than ever before and greatly advanced technical issues in the state. what are you going to do to maintain our local bridges and roads without a massive tax increase like my opponent is talking about? people at the federal level can talk about other things. we're talking about the things that voters want to hear from. this is a competitive state. >> i covered your last race in wisconsin, your last governor's race. why is this the toughest race for you? the speaker has been the head of the republican party. you are in the fight of your live. reince prebiebus. >> all the same state. >> is this still your republican party? >> whether it was bill clinton,
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george w. bush, barack obama or now donald trump, any time the president is in office his first term that's a tough term for governors in competitive states. we have to go against modern history where any president, not just this president, has always had an historical challenge. and add to that lies of pre-existing condition, a national organized. we're making the state that we'll always cover people with pre-existing conditions. the marquette poll out yesterday showed that people in this state believe this state is headed in the right direction. that didn't happen by accident, but because we did things to turn this state around, invest in equipment that put more people to work. we don't want to go backwards. we cannot risk going back to those days and that's our closing message. >> thanks very much, governor.
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>> you have been watching wisconsin governor scott walker do what we call a gaggle, quick little interaction with reporters, on a bus tour with house speaker paul ryan as you heard kasie hunt asking him about there. we are in sunny florida. i want to bring in executive vice president and principle at armandi international. i want to get your quick reaction from what you heard from governor walker there. interesting dichotomy. the darker message on immigration that the president is pushing nationally, compared to these state races that scott walker says yeah, we're not talking about. >> republicans are worried and they're playing the expectations game. going up against history, challenge of a president going into the midterm elections. they're setting the stage for what could very well be the beginnings of a blue wave. while we're in florida, it's the state that gets all the attention, wisconsin could very well be a canary in the coal
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mine state. why? a state that was never supposed to go to the republicans. speaker of the house with his own seat on the line, forced retirement. let's be honest. paul ryan had no expectation to leave the leadership until he encountered president trump. you see scott walker trying to deal with these forces with his own election very much on the line. >> revising the house outlook to a democratic gain. house speaker paul ryan, 30 to 40 seats, meaning republicans will no longer hold the speakership if they don't keep the house. what are you seeing? what evidence are you seeing when it comes into play as to which way this goes? >> i think kavanaugh nomination fight did, indeed, consolidate and gin up a lot of support that was latent at the time. the mail bomber in the last week, which tried in essence to take out the opposition party or at leaders of the opposition party and the tragic shooting in pittsburgh, largest anti-semitic mass shooting in u.s. history.
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a tone deaf response by the president. folks across the country are saying do we really want another two years of this without a check on this president? >> although it looks like republicans could still end up in a very close race to keep the senate, which would split house/senate situation. stick around. >> certainly. >> coming up after the break, you get a vote and you get a vote and everybody gets a vote. that is oprah's message to voters in georgia, as she puts her star power behind the democrat that could make history there. we'll talk about how the oprah factor could play in that race, something that everybody seems to be talking about today. we'll be back with that from sunny southern florida. lee county, by the way. solid trump country, a place that went for the president over hillary clinton by 20 points in 2016. ron! soh really? going on at schwab. thank you clients? well jd power did just rank them highest in investor satisfaction with full service brokerage firms...again. and online equity trades are only $4.95...
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up in georgia, a new poll shows stacey abrams and brian kemp in a dead heat there. now with just five days left, abrams is pulling in some star power. oprah winfrey will hold two town halls and knock on doors with abrams today. got to note, she would be the first black woman ever elected governor in this country if she wins. let's talk about the oprah
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effect. will her endorsement really make a difference? 2007 gallup poll after oprah endorsed then candidate barack obama, 81% of americans said her endorsement made no difference and 61% said celebrity endorsements generally were not all that important to them. researchers at the university of maryland found that oprah's endorsement was responsible for 1 million additional votes for barack obama in the primary. let's get into it. catie beck is in georgia for us. are you going to see oprah in the suburban areas around atlanta today? what are you hearing? what are you seeing? what do you expect? >> reporter: we sure hope so, hallie. this event doesn't start until 12:30. they've been lined up since 6:00 this morning, very excited to see oprah and stacey abrams together. there is so much energy around this hotly contested gubernatorial race that is in a
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dead heat. the latest poll out has these candidates within a single point of each other. stacey abrams at 48, her incumbent republican brian kemp at 47%. it's a typical red state. you don't see governor races that are quite this tight here. because of that hotly contested race we're seeing early voting numbers off the charts already in the state of georgia up 140% since the midterms in 2014. that is due in part to massive early voters this time around. on the other side of this race, brian kemp, he has vice president mike pence campaigning for him today. he will also be in the atlanta area, trying to convince some of those conservatives rev up the base and get that energy high.
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both of these candidates are trying to get over 50%. if neither one of them does, this race goes to a runoff. hallie? >> right. catie beck live for us in georgia. thank you for joining me today. co-founder of black votes matter fund, increasing black voter engagement and kimberly watkins is back with us, bureau chief for the boston herald. latasha, let me start with you. how do you see this playing? oprah is all about getting out there, getting people to vote for stacey abrams. is that going to be effective? >> i thivg so. not only is she coming to pain for the meetings but going door to door. if oprah came to my door and asked me to vote. other than after i got off the floor from fainting, it would have a tremendous impact on me. what it's doing is in campaigns, particularly when they're this close, you want to make sure there's energy, excitement and hope that's out there. i think what oprah does have in
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her factor, she has this hope factor. and when she comes -- even my timeline this morning, she's been blowing up, people that are really, really excited. that's what you need when you're having a close election and a close race like this. you want to make sure somebody is driving the excitement and the energy. >> just to play devil's advocate, will ferrell was out doing door knocks as well. oprah is coming. is it possible that republicans go stacey abrams are getting a bunch of hollywood people but brian kemp will help georgians. >> they can try with that message. will ferrell was really popular when he went out campaigning. you have oprah winfrey who, of course, in january made that golden globe speech that really inspired a lot of people, talking about a new day being on the horizon, to the point that people, some folks were clamoring for her to throw her own hat into the ring. she declined to do that, said
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that that wasn't for her, but that clearly showed how much political capital oprah winfrey has. she has decided to use it. before 2008, she was completely removed from politics until 2008 when she endorsed barack obama very full throatedly. she also lent her support behind hillary clinton. moving forward, we will see her very strategically choose candidates who she wants to spotlight because she knows she has that power. >> and i want to say -- >> and i think that -- go ahead, latasha. >> beyond that star power, oprah is an influencer. she has a lot of influence. not just in this space. she motivates people. while there's celebrities and celebrity star power, oprah has a gift where she encourages,
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inspires and has millions of followers that have followed her, based on her message, her positi positivity. she's a leader in our community. >> and yet she doesn't seem to want to use that power you talk about, la tasha, to run in 2020. she has made that really clear. that came up again on this "new york times" piece, gayle king, her best friend as everyone knows. very quickly here, the two women had just talked, oprah and gayle. miss king had again encouraged oprah to consider running. it really surprised me, oprah said. she is still talking about the perfect ticket and i said i don't get it. i don't get why you keep doing this. and she said the country is bigger than your life. >> she, herself, has said that is not her arena. she is very carefully choose in
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candidates while at the same time saying, look, she herself identified as an independent, not a democrat. i think she knows exactly what she's doing. i trust that oprah is going to make the decision that's right for oprah. >> kimberly atkins, latasha brown, thank you for coming to talk about the queen of talk. much appreciated. the rust belt might be having buyer's remorse after going from blue to red in 2016. one race you need to pay attention to on tuesday night. plus' story that should not be lost in coverage of the midterms. president trump apparently not so hot on reupping a new government program fighting domestic terrorism. it comes a week after those mail bombs were sent across the country. the reasoning behind the move and what happens if that program goes away. we're talking about that live from florida in cape coral, the state's third largest city in terms of its actual land, behind jacksonville and tampa. welcome to the place where people go to learn about
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pittsburgh. the man charged with shooting and killing 11 people inside the tree of life synagogue was inside court this hour, facing a 44-count indictment. pete williams is in our washington bureau. what's happening inside the courtroom? what do we know? >> it's over. he pleaded not guilty. this time robert bowers walked into the courtroom. you may recall monday he was in a wheelchair because of the wounds he received in the gun battle with police. but today th-- this is the sket from monday. today, unlike that sketch, he walked into the courtroom today. he had a bandage on his upper left arm. it was a brief hearing. no new evidence was presented. the judge didn't set a trial date. the judge made sure he had a public defender. we move on to the next stage now. the government's new indictment has 44 counts and among the accusations the government makes here is that not only that he choosed his victims -- choosed to do this in advance but by
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targeting older victims and people who were disabled is an additional factor under federal law that could bring the death penalty. so the government has charged that. clearly, they're headed toward a decision to charge this -- it is charged as a death penalty case. later they will say whether they will seek the death penalty. seems like they're headed in that direction, hallie. >> pete williams in washington. thank you. days after that horrific shooting in pittsburgh, msnbc news has exclusive reporting on what the trump administration may be or may not be doing to address violent extremism. nbc news reports that they may not renew the countering extreme domestic program, $10 million in grants to more than two dozen groups with much of that work trying to prevent violent extremism of all kinds, including right wing extremism. dhs did not respond to nbc news'
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request to why the program is not continuing. david ignatius, columnist and political analyst for msnbc. some of these were to build relationships between law enforcement and the communities they serve, others mental health programs. it seemed like it was a step in the right direction and i'm curious about your analysis as it reflected, that program under the obama administration and where it goes next. >> it's a useful program. it's not a big expensive cost item, $10 million, in terms of the total overall spending on law enforcement and even domestic terrorism. it's a small amount. what's discouraging is that this is another sign that in any area that involves domestic white supremacist groups, the administration pulls back from the kind of condemnation that i
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think people would expect. certainly that was the case after charlottesville, with the president's comments about both sides are to blame. in this case, some of the grants that this program at dhs has been making to try to mobilize people to try to deal with domestic terrorism, domestic acts of violence was a program for white supremacists led by former white supremacists, called love after hate. the kind of community outreach that studies have shown is effective in reaching people and speaking with them. it's unfortunate that it appears to be on the way out, ending in the middle of 2019. it's a small amount but i think it's important as a symbol of this administration just isn't taking the problem seriously. >> david, you're writing about pittsburgh in your latest piece. you live there had for a while and happened to be there on business, i believe, when the shooting happened. what do you see happening there
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next and how does that play out? >> well, hallie, the pittsburgh story just breaks your heart. if there's a part of america where a sense of community, sense of belonging in the jewish community of squirrel hill but also being part of the larger pittsburgh is repeated in the african-american sections of town, italian-american, all different parts of our ethnic quilt, if you will, came together in pittsburgh that in a way always inspired me. i think the acts of the alleged shooter, bowers, in no sense reflect the feelings of people in pittsburgh but what a tragedy for it to happen there, a place where i would say america's different identity groups didn't come together in a hateful way until we saw in this moment what lurks beneath the surface. >> do you think things change, david, as far as the rhetoric,
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as far as the conversation around extremism in this country? the president, of course, visited pittsburgh earlier this week, along with his wife and his daughter and son-in-law. >> well, i think we're, obviously, looking to understand the motivations of the alleged shooter but it seems clear that he had been spun into a state of, you know, high anxiety, fighting anger by reports about threats that were oppose bd by immigrants coming into this country, extreme views that you would have to say have been fanned by the political rhetoric coming out of the white house, coming out of the president. so, i'm sure president trump didn't intend for people to act in these violent ways, but i think for all of us, it was a lesson of the unintended consequences of this red-hot rhetoric that we're seeing again as we're sending u.s. military,
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active duty troops, to the border as if there's some kind of national emergency. folks look at that and say oh, my gosh! it reinforces those feelings that, as we've seen, can go into a space where they become really dangerous for the country. >> david ignatius, always such a pleasure to have you on the show. thank you for coming on. >> thank you, hallie. good to be with you. >> thank you. kelly o'donnell has some news for us from the north lawn. kelly, you're hearing about a new event being added potentially to the president's schedule? what's up? >> reporter: scant details at the moment but officials tell us to expect the president to make some remarks about immigration later this afternoon before he heads out, back on the campaign trail. we had been expecting this kind of an address or speech. we're not exactly sure how best to characterize it. for several days. it was something we expected to see tuesday, then, of course,
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the president travelled to pittsburgh tuesday in the aftermath of the massacre at the tree of life synagogue. immigration has been a thread through this midterm season and we've got the issue of the human caravan coming from central america, the president considering deploying active duty military in numbers as high as 15,000, perhaps, to the border to try to prevent the human caravan, as he describes it, from coming into the united states. it's still days away from reaching the u.s. but immigration in all of its complicated dimensions is something that has certainly been stoking part of the heated rhetoric of this campaign season with the president talking about making allegations about who has been sort of inserted into the human caravan or more broadly about issues of ms-13, the gangs. this has been one of the volatile, hot-button issues we've seen the president use for his base. also, that has been a defining issue for his overall candidacy
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back when he was running for president and now in this midterm phase. it's also something that democrats are saying this is an issue that is getting them to the polls as well. so, limited info right now. we believe because of the so limited info right now, but we believe that because of the kind of waning number of days, limited time is perishable in an election season, time is one of the president's most perishable sort of resources. so we expect to hear something from him today. the people we go to on this are in closed-door meetings. it appears today will be an opportunity for the president to hammer this issue once again. >> five days ahead of the midterms, kelly o'donnell there on the white house north lawn. thank you. we are live broadcasting the show today from cape corals florida. after the break we're going to take a look at a different state and a different district steve kornacki says you should know about next. little as 60 seconds. the powerful backing of american express.
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recently, more than $20 million has been spent in the race for superintendent of public instruction to attack my friend tony thurmond's record. well, i've worked with tony, and no one is more qualified to lead our state's schools. that's why tony thurmond is the only candidate endorsed by classroom teachers and the california democratic party. because tony will stand up to the donald trump-betsy devos agenda and has always protected our local public schools. join me in voting for tony thurmond. let's put our kids first.
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i'm here today in ohio. i'm here to stand with rich and betty because it's our time to fight back. are you ready to fight back? it's our time to fight back! you bet. >> that of course is senator elizabeth warren. she is out on the campaign trail today just like a lot of the road warriors here at nbc news. she is in columbus, ohio, focusing on that state as we are now just five days away from election day. we also are taking a look at a different key rust belt state in
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this election year, one that steve kornacki at the big board has all wrapped up. we'll give you a hint, president trump narrowly won in 2016. steve, 18 races to watch in 2018, what do you got? >> i give you one more. the district we're looking at today is the home of this, sparty, michigan state university. we are talking about the 8th congressional district of michigan. this is one of those places, trump did better here than expected in 2016. he carried this district. there had been talking he might lose, might lose the state certainly, but he ended up winning it, improving on mitt romney's performance. democrats have had their eyes on this republican incumbent, mike bishop. the interesting thing about this race, obviously, it's politically competitive territory, also bishop, i don't know why that just came up on the screen, but bishop -- it's back. there we go. bishop got outraised by his d t
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democratic opponent. republicans polled some of that financial support for bishop. a month ago, the most recent polling out here still put bishop ahead. it's going to be a very interesting one to watch on election night in particular because there are a lot of advantages there on paper that slotkin the democrat, bishop seems to be hanging tough even though his party didn't have confidence in him in the home stretch of this campaign. >> steve, i think i'll be seeing you next week as we do the final ramp-up to election day. thank you, my friend. we are here in florida with mark caputo here on set with me. guys, as we wrap up the show, i want to take a step back. you two know this state very well. you know the landscape of the national races really well. what's the thing you're going to be watching for most closely over the next five days? >> at least in florida i'm going to be watching if younger voters continue to underperform in casting preelection day ballots,
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if hispanics remain underperforming, which they are, and if african-americans who are continuing to expand their share of votes continue to do that and help the democrats at the top of the ticket, andrew gillum and senator bill nelson eventually start to catch up to republicans. >> let me ask you about the young vote. fernand i know you look at the millennial vote, too. a third of millennials say they're going to vote, right? they say they plan to vote. democrats need more of them to do so. are they going to get it? >> well, you're asking me to predict the lottery. >> i do. i'm asking you to literally predict the future. >> i'm hesitant to say that, but i'm saying right now they are not. >> okay. and if past is prologue and you look at previous elections, i've got grave doubts, but i can't say for certain. >> early indicators are they're not going to turn out, but i'm hearing some buzz that a lot of millennials are first-time voters are actually wanting to wait until election day, and they seem to say, look, we got this. we know what's happening. just wait until the final
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ballots are cast. i'm a little bit dubious about it, but they are going to be needed if the democrats want to win in florida and across the country. >> somebody who's trying to fire up young voters is beto o'rourke in texas. here's what he had to say a couple of moments ago. >> democrats really haven't been competitive, so republicans don't have to show up. that's why we go to those places as well. going to every county is important so that everyone's voice is heard in this election. >> and that is really what this comes down to, no matter if you're democrat or republican, the message is the same. vote, get engaged, do the civil duty, vote for whatever candidate you want, whether it's beto or cruz in texas or whoever it is. >> i'm struck by president trump making this closing final argument again on immigration. the issue that he thinks propelled him into the white house, and the question for america really on moral terms, are we going to be the country that has an immigration policy that divides families and cages children, mobilizes the military on the border to deal with women
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and children coming to the united states. i think that's a key question. this may very well be the issue. >> i really appreciate it, you guys making the trek over here to cape coral, beautiful set, beautiful scenery. we are going to continue on with the show in west virginia tomorrow, but before we wrap today's show in florida, i want to show you our big picture. we're going to end on that as we always do. today comes it us from qatar. simone biles is flying through the air upside down absolutely soaring, it's incredible. leading her team, the u.s. team to win a fourth straight world title at the world gymnastics championship. before the competition bieles ws in the hospital with a kidney stone. didn't phase her at all. again, as one of the speedboats makes its way through the mar a marina, i would love to hear your thoughts as we get ready to head to huntington, west virginia tomorrow. we'll be live snapping and
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instaing that road trip. more to come tomorrow, craig melvin over to you. safe travels, good to see you. good morning to you, craig melvin here at msnbc headquarters in new york city. the oprah factor in the midterms where anything goes and anything can happen, oprah hitting the stump. how some mega star power is gathering today in georgia to help elect this country's first african-american governor. plus, over the top, can president trump's say anything approach get republicans over the top on tuesday? got him in the white house. and voice of the people, the country's changing diversity is putting historically safe congressional seats into play now. our road warriors are canvassing the country, they're going to have the latest on the ground with just five days to go. five days now from the midterms, voters are energized. campaigning are pulling out all the stops to try and secure a win. rallies where some of the

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