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at comcast, it's my job to develop, apps and tools that simplify your experience. my name is mike, i'm in product development at comcast. we're working to make things simple, easy and awesome. that does it for me. i'm david gura. i'll be back at 2:00 eastern time, a special election edition of "a.m. joy" with joy reid starts now. ♪ in the closing weeks of this election, we have seen repeated, constant, incessant, nonstop
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attempts to divide us. the rhetoric is designed to make us angry and make us fearful. the good news is, in four days, georgia, you can reject that politics. [ cheers and applause ] good morning, welcome to "a.m. joy" live from atlanta, georgia, where political icons and a-listers from the worlds of hollywood and music have descended on an historic governor's race that's become a flashpoint. joining me now, the mayor of columbus, georgia, and tiffany cross of btc. ladies, you look splendid in america. >> i grew up in atlanta, i thought it was going to be
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warmer. >> i didn't get to the stores, i would have loved to have a bubble coat. >> we're wearing red because we're about to retire it in georgia. >> we love that. let me come to you first, mayor tomlinson. this race really has become a national election. people are talking again, unfortunately, about voter suppression. >> yes. >> what would it mean to this state if stacey abrams were able to overcome that and become the governor of georgia? >> it's transformational. it's frankly the transformation we've been weighting on for five years. joy, i'm going to give you a big surprise, but georgia has been a blue state for five years. we have 7 million registered voters. the majority of those are democrats. they just don't vote. so we've ceded the state to republicans for years. over 2 million people have voted early. what's exciting about that is stacy is hitting all of her marks. over 30% african-americans
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voting, 43% minorities voting, millenials and infrequent voters are showing up. 38% of the people voting are infrequent voters. we're blowing the doors off of it. >> are you surprised as a fellow elected official at how brazen the voter suppression has been? >> yes. yes. it's always there. so many people think of it as being a strategic ploy. what's become very obvious is the republicans in georgia, sadly, believe that one man, one vote, is to their electoral disadvantage. as brian kemp said when he was recently recorded, it concerns him if every man votes. that's why, get thee to a voting poll. >> we're joined by a celebrity guest, you never know who's going to show up, so i'm going to go right to the democratic candidate for governor which in and of itself is historic, let's just make that mark. african-american woman, potential first african-american woman governor of any state in the united states, stacey
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abrams. >> thank you so much. >> so good to see you. >> you too, thank you so much. >> i was blessed to be able to spend the afternoon looking at your campaign, observing what you guys are doing, from mamaco georgia, i was so excited to be who has been with you, president obama. when you talk about the story you told, being a young girl, a high school student, trying to go to the governor's mansion, rn rejected by the guard at the front who said you don't belong here, the arc that you traveled to vie for governor, tell us what this means to you personally and for the state. >> my parents are in town, they flew in on wednesday. i had a chance to introduce them to oprah, to introduce them to president obama. but what was most meaningful was standing there yesterday, talking and knowing that my mom
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and dad could see that those sacrifices they made for us, the work they did for me and my five brothers and sisters, that it came to fruition. and that we are on the precipice of changing what leadership looks like. and to have your mother and your father, they're raising my niece right now, they have a 12-year-old at home, they are the living embodiment of why we do this work, about why education is important, why health care is important, why jobs are important. because i've watched my parents struggle my entire life. and to be the product of their dreams is an extraordinary, extraordinary thing. >> and you know, what's interesting is, we've all been covering this race all around the country because of the voter suppression, because of what bryant kemp, the current secretary of state is doing. what was completely lost on me, i'll admit, until yesterday, was the fact that your running mate is also a woman. this is actually a two-woman ticket. >> it is. >> i don't think we've seen that anywhere in the country. talk a little bit about that,
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because you guys are doing what the smart people in politics say you can't do that, you can't have two woman. >> sarah is an extraordinary candidate, a first time political candidate who blew it out of the water. she is a business owner who grew her business from a hundred to 3,500 employees over a decade, pays them all health care, has a day-care center. she proves you can do what's right and what's good for yourself and for the economy. she runs a trucking company with authenticity, with values. when she and i go across the state, we can talk about the issues that affect women, that affect business owners, that affect communities, and we can do so from a place of contrast and also communion. we're both women of faith who do not believe our faith should be used to justify discrimination. what's extraordinary about sarah and why i'm lucky to have her on this ticket with me is we're the embodiment of what we're trying to achieve in america today. >> from macon to atlanta, i
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talked to a lot of the folks who were there. obviously they were a self-selected group of partisan stacey abrams fans. it was interesting to me, everyone i spoke with, black, white, young, old, they all had the same two issues they thought were important, and they were health care and education. >> absolutely. >> is that the core of your platform? is that what voters are telling you? >> it is. and we've had the extraordinary grace of having been talking about this since the beginning. i haven't had to pivot, i haven't had to apologize to threatening to round people up in my truck. i've been talking about education, health care, and jobs from the beginning of this campaign. in fact the very first day i launched, i was on this wonderful show called "the joy reid show," "a.m. joy." we talked about those three issues, because consistently they are the core of progress. if you have health care and access to education, all else is possible. >> and there is a helicopter that is moving beams, i'll let everyone know, if you hear that
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sound in the background, that's what that is. if you guys have questions for sta stacey, please jump in. i met you as a fellow guest on msnbc, on a show where you were encouraging people to vengeance t -- to register to vote. voting rights has been central to what you've been doing in public life. i'll ask the same question that i asked mayor tomlinson. have you been surprised at how aggressive and how, frankly, blatant the current secretary of state has been about removing people from the voting rolls? >> i can't say i'm surprised because i've watched him do it for eight years. it's one of the reasons we so aggressively started and maintain the new georgia project. it's now under different leadership with someone who used to work for me but is now the
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president of the organization. when they eroded section 5 of the voting rights act, i knew the next step was going to be using that power to purge our rolls. and this is wrong. we know this. we know that the state is changing. and what brian kemp said in 2014 was that too many minorities are being registered and that republicans should be afraid. he said it again a couple of weeks ago. this time he said, if every eligible voter in georgia casts a ballot, he will not win. i want georgia to prove him right. >> you follow all these races very closely, you're following this race. i'll ask you the same question. it's been pretty blatant, whether in kansas or north dakota or here in georgia. i wonder if that has surprised you as an observer of politics for so long. >> it certainly has not surprised me. what has surprised me is the way that people were ready to address it immediately. so you saw kristen clark with the lawyers committee immediately ready to address it. i was less surprised that stacey
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was immediately ready to address it because you've been doing this work since you were 19 years old. what people have to realize about this race is you not only have to win, but you have to win overwhelmingly because there is a rule that neither candidate -- and you're both polling neck and neck. if neither candidate gets 50%, there has object a runoff. worst case scenario, if there isn't, if neither one of you gets 50%, it's been great to turn out all the voters, the black vote was up over 40% in the may 22nd runoff, if you don't get to 50%, are you ready immediately to go into a turnout operation for a december 4th runoff? >> we are. we want to avoid that by having everyone vote. but we have spent this campaign building an infrastructure. people disparaged it at the beginning, they said they were spending too much money on infrastructure and not saving enough money for television. but the fundamental belief i have for this campaign and for our state is, it's an organizing opportunity. it is not just about my election. it is about building the capacity for voters who are
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often overlooked by our politics to have our voices heard. it's work and effort that has not been done to fullest fruition prior to this campaign. on november 7th, if we have to start again, we will be ready, because we have been building this infrastructure not just because it's about this campaign, but because it's about the people of georgia. and they will know that they've got to come one more time to show who they are and what they want for the state. >> two georgia elected officials here. mayor tomlinson, your mom is here, your family is here. there are white democrats, people forget, in the south. >> there are. >> you are an elected official here. how is race playing out, outside of the african-american community, which is overwhelm g overwhelmingly excited about the abrams campaign? >> georgia is a predictor of how things are going to go. stacey is polling very well among white georgians
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comparative to other elections. 27%, probably even better. if she does that, she continues to make these marks we've seen in early voting, there's not going to be a runoff. the reason why is exactly what she says. she's not allowed for a blue wave, he's creating a roadmap through which others will be able to follow. there will be other statewide elected democrats. she's been to all 159 counties. she has rediscovered the black belt where there are plenty of democrats of color and white democrats. yellow dog democrats, as they call them. and she's shown them the love, and they're returning the favor, they're showing up at the polls. >> i want to ask you about that, one of the things you've done that democrats have sort of stopped doing, particularly in the south, is you are going to the rural part of this state. you're going down to the black belt, the parts that don't get polled. what are you hearing from those voters that they want and that they feel is missing from their representation up to now? >> they are most driven by health care. these are communities that are
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facing crippling effects of a health care crisis. they've lost hospitals. you have half of our counties, almost, that have no ob/gyn. a third of our counties have no social worker. we have communities being ravaged by lack of access to health care including mental health care. and women, we have the highest maternal mortality rate in the nation. and then you add that to the fact that our educational system is funded by property taxes. so people don't see those two things as connected, but when you don't have health care, you can't get jobs in those communities, which means your property tax values drop, which means you can't afford good educations for your children, which means you're in this cycle of challenge. they want a governor who understands the connection. medicaid expansion is also about making sure your children get a good education. if we expand medicaid, that means family members aren't taken to jail so they can get
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the help they need from an opioid or heroin addiction because they're trying to self medicate what is often a mental health crisis. we need a governor who understands that atlanta is not all of georgia. i'm not running to be governor of atlanta. i'm running to be governor of all georgia. i understand the connection, because when you live in atlanta or other counties, all of us are connected and if we do the right thing, all of us are lipfted up. >> oprah has come down, president obama, eric holder, chris tucker, everyone was there. john lewis obviously has been campaigning for you. is that part of it, just as a girl, as a woman, as a person, is that daunting to you at all, to have that kind of sort of star power behind you, does it put pressure on you? >> i think it is a signal of how important georgia is to america. sally yates was there yesterday, and she has become a national
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figure because of how hard she's defended our democracy. what i see is this isn't about me. and i don't mean this to be self-deprecating. i mean it to say, we saw the sea change first when november 6th, 2016 happened. what people are finding is that this is a way to reclaim who we are as americans. knowing that georgia, the cradle of the civil rights movement but also an important, fast-growing state, can be a signal of what else can be done. and while i am incredibly overwhelmed, sometimes, getting to sit there and ask oprah a question is an amazing dream, and getting a hug from barack obama is awesome, i encourage everyone to try it, it's more to me about why they think georgia matters. and i want every georgian to understand that their voices do matter, that people from around the country know their voices matter. if they believe it matters, then we should believe it matters. >> the first 30 days you're elected, what does your first 30
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days look like? >> medicaid expansion. that's the crux of how we save rural georgia. it's critical to how we save women's lives. it's also about how we draw down billions of dollars in economic development that can transform our economies. we know that in kentucky, in arkansas, in indiana, in louisiana, those are all states that have made money by expanding medicaid, reducing costs and improving outcomes. i want to do that for the state of georgia. >> and your opponent is not going to expand medicaid. >> my opponent not only doesn't want to expand medicaid, he's supporting rules that will weaken preexisting conditions. as president obama pointed out yesterday, he's one of those hypocrites who is lying about his record and lying about his plans. his only plan is trust your insurance companies. that presumes, number one, that you have one, because most of the people we're trying to help can't afford health insurance. if you have health insurance, he wants you to be offered junk plans that do not have the coverage of preexisting conditions that people have gotten used to.
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it is a pig in a poke. they're going to sell you a bill of goods and people will be hurt if brian kemp becomes governor of georgia. >> we have a lot of people, i get it on my social media every day, who are afraid their votes won't count, who are afraid they might be on one of those purge lists. what should someone do if they show up to the polls and are told they're not on the voter registration list? >> first of all, we've had two extraordinary victories in the last couple of days. the eleventh circuit rejected brian kemp's appeal to disallow absentee ballots. if you have an absentee ballot, turn it in, the eleventh circuit says he has to follow the law. the aclu won their lawsuit, you have to be allowed to cast your ballot. call 866-our-vote. there is a local number, if you go to georgiademocrat.org, you can get that number there. we need you to stay in line, do not get out of line, do not give up your right to vote. we will find you, we will help.
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866-our-vote is the easiest one to remember. use it, and we'll make sure your ballot gets counted. >> stacey abrams, democratic candidate for governor. we invited brian kemp to be on our show, your opponent, he declined. and you were going to have a debate. >> he backed out of our scheduled debate. i'll leave it to him to explain why. >> thank you, helicopter, for being part of our show. theresa and tiffany will be back. stacey abrams, thank you very much, always great to see you. civil rights icon marley evers will join us next with a big announcement. stay right there. capital one venture card... you'll earn unlimited double miles on every purchase, every day... not just "airline purchases". think about all the double miles you could be earning... (loud) holy moley that's a lot of miles!!! shhhhh!
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i gave up blood on that bridge in selma, 53 years ago. almost died. some of my friends and colleagues were murdered in mississippi and other places. i'm not asking any of you to give any blood. i'm just asking you to go and vote like you never voted before. we have to vote. >> along with john lewis, my next guest was also among the civil rights activists who fought for the rights of millions of disenfranchised
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african-americans in the american south. myrlie evers worked tirelessly alongside her husband medgar evers. she continued the fight after his death and does to this very day. myrlie evers joins me now, stacey abrams is still with me. ms. evers, it's always an honor to talk to you. tell me about what this election cycle means to you. >> it means the world to me. i can say without question that this election means everything to the united states of america, to all of the people who reside here. and certainly to people of color. we have a woman who i believe is a mississippian, who was born in the state of mississippi, running for this office, it just fills my heart and soul with strength and with hope for the
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future, not only of her state but also for the country. and i'm absolutely delighted to be able to be on your show once again and to endorse fully, completely, stacy adams to be the next governor. >> well, we still have ms. stacey abrams here. i'm going to let her react to it. i'll throw it over to you. >> i tell folks i am mississippi raised and georgia grown, and there is no higher honor than to have myrlie evers endorse my race for governor of georgia. we know our fates are yoked together in the south. when georgia does something, when mississippi does something, when alabama does something, when louisiana rises, we all rise together. to be able to lead georgia and have her support behind me is an extraordinary moment. i want to say thank you to mrs. evers for all you've done not
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only for mississippi but for all america. >> i thank you so much. >> ms. evers, i wanted to just ask you, a lot of people don't know that stacey abrams is originally from mississippi. it's the state that has captured the sort of lurid imagination of the united states, because of its really difficult history including you and your husband's fights for voting rights. is there something happening in the south that the rest of the country has missed, a change, a sense of urgency, a sort of a revival of the fannie lou hamer, medgar evers, myrlie evers tradition? >> i'm not sure it ever left. as i see our country move more toward what we fought for, eliminating the progress that we have made, that the south is coming together again. and with the state of the nation, the racism, the hatred that is being expressed today,
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what better time, and if not now, when, will we stand together, regardless of whether we are mississippians who reside in california or mississippians who reside in some other place, it's time to stand, to speak out, to move, to act. i'm so sorry i could not be on the scene with our wonderful person here, but my heart is heart is there, my soul is there, my prayers are there. you will be absolutely marvelous for the position that you are trying so hard to be, you're such a wonderful example for women regardless of race, creed, and color, throughout this nation and throughout the world. you have my support. i wanted so badly to be there on the scene when oprah was there, when president obama was there and whatnot.
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it's like old war horse was ready to rise up and say, yes, we have to go. but you, your generation, are carrying forth for all of us. i just encourage everyone to get out and to vote, because that is where our answer and our help is going to come from. >> there are no words. thank you. thank you so much. >> i do want to say this, a few years ago, and joy, i think you know this, i ran for congress in california, the 24th congressional district. and along with shirley chisolm and the rest of us who were doing that, a very difficult time. your campaign made me think of the time i ran for congress and the treatment that i received at the places there where i went to get votes. it's almost the same today.
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but you are being lifted up by so many people and so many careers. i think of a young man who is running for office, for senate, in mississippi. ny heart is there, my soul is there, my prayers are there. just know that, and whatever i can do to help, whatever i can do to help america wake up and see where it's going, and to say, no more, no more. in the words of my grandmother, enough is enough. and too much stinks. and we have to do something about that stink. and we can do that at the polls. thank you for placing your life, your livelihood, and everything on the line. we're there for you. >> thank you so much. and on behalf of andrew gillum
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and antonio delgado and those running across this country, thank you for what you've done to make this moment possible. we stand on your shoulders and we thank you for lifting us up. >> thank you so much, myrlie evers and stacey abrams. a reminder that this race really is a larger -- it's a bigger story than just a governor's race. this is about voting rights in america. this is about who has the right to vote. myrlie evers has fought for that her entire life. stacey abrams comes from a family whose tradition is the same and she's done the same. always an honor to have you on, myrlie evers. and stacey abrams, thank you for staying. coming up, you get a vote and you get a vote! that's my oprah. oprah gets political, that's next.
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live from ft. lauderdale, florida, for the latest on florida's hotly contested governor and senator races. but coming up next, how hollywood is getting out the vote in georgia. more "a.m. joy live" from atlanta, straight ahead. here we go.
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hi! >> oh, my god! >> hi, denise. >> hi, oprah. >> how are you? >> i'm wonderful, how are you? >> good. surprise, surprise. >> i am shocked. >> there is nothing quite like oprah showing up on your doorstep. but she's just one of many celebrities using their star power to get out the vote for stacey abrams in georgia. >> here i am, campaigning for stacey abrams. >> i'm going to surprise people real quick, knock on some doors. it's crunch time, everybody got to get out and vote. >> oh, my god! >> this is your chance, georgia, to let your voice be heard and change the world. >> all right, joining me now is the hollywood producer behind mega hits like "girl trip," will packer, who recently hosted a star-studded fundraiser for
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stacey abrams, alongside jacque reid, my co-host on our podcast, because of course you download that every week. hello. >> hey, cousin. >> i was at the barack obama/stacey abrams event yesterday and it was sort of a star -- if you could spot them, right? chris tucker was there, jermaine dupri was there. so i'm going to start with you on this, will. the knock on that from the other side, from the mike pences and the republicans is, oh, these celebrities are trying to turn georgia into hoo what's your response to that? >> i'm a film producer. i happen to be a georgian. i employ people in this state. mike pence stood up and said this is georgia and not hollywood. $9.5 billion in impact is brought to this state by
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productions. the people that i hire, i hire maybe for our five actors on a movie, you know, maybe ten if it's a big movie. i hire hardworking georgians that drive trucks and set up lights and set up catering and do p.a. work and locations. those are the people that are impacted. so when you talk about jobs, you talk about impacting real people, why would you spurn an industry that brings that kind of work? the answer of course is that a lot of people in that industry don't agree with the legalized discrimination and other tactics that that side is pushing for. but the other side of that is that the people you just showed, the oprahs, the michael jordans, the people who supported my event, from tiffany haddish to jada pinkett-smith, they have voices as well. what makes their voices less important? i'm not saying they're more important, but why would we say you're a celebrity so what you say doesn't matter? no. if you believe passionately
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about something and you have a reach, you of a mouthpiece, you would be remiss not to use it for things that are important to you. that's why we're seeing a new generation of celebrities who are actively engaged and involved. >> another native georgia an, jacque reid, we've watched "the walking dead," that's films here. will's movies that are employing people. but beyond that, this idea that when conservative celebrities, the guy who played gopher ran for congress and won, the guy who was on "dukes of hazard," ronald reagan. >> we have a reality star in the highest office of the land. >> it's a convenient talking point for republicans to dismiss this hollywood thing. but the man in the white house now is no political intellect, and his own people are saying it, based on the op-ed in "the new york times." he was a reality star. some would say he dabbled in business because of the half
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billion dollars his father left for him. but, you know, they get behind him and they also brought kanye west into the white house and paraded him around and put that all over the news and the president made time for that. so when is it good to be a whool person? but as you were saying, to your point about, you know, actors and entertainers not mattering, when jimmy kimmel's son had a preexisting condition, that compelled him to talk passionately about health care on his show, and so many conservatives were out there saying, shut up and do your show. to say people in the entertainment industry don't matter, that they're not citizens, that there are not things in their life that matter, they care about policy just like the rest of us do at the end of the day. so to dismiss them as if they don't matter, i'm just not understanding how republicans can do that. >> from a pure business perspective, though, okay,
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stacey abrams' opponent is someone who has said they're going to back the religious freedom, religious liberty -- it's state sponsored discrimination. i've talked to people in hollywood at the highest levels. that makes them very, very nervous. disney, the marvel movies are shot here in georgia, a lot of people don't know that, have already said if that passes, they will no longer shoot here in georgia. so what we're talking about is a real economic impact in this state. so when you talk about caring about real georgians and you talk about backing something that will pull that $9.5 billion, that is real economic impact that somebody's policy could hurt the local workforce. >> and to piggyback on that, this $9.5 billion industry of movies being made here, a lot of those people are residents.
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they vote. they're registered voters, many of them, i'm sure, here in the state of georgia. so dismiss them the way that mike pence did and the way his opponent is, to me is very foolish. >> i think there's a bigger picture here that you had on the right this real anger against hollywood, in quotes, because hollywood obviously is all over the country, new mexico, here, everybody that people shoot, but the idea that this industry, your industry, has a cultural opposition to them. so there has been this longstanding resentment, quite frankly, that i think is a bigger picture here. >> no question. >> in hollywood do people sense that, hollywood is being depicted as almost an alien being, being imposed on red america. >> you know what's happening is that hollywood is more aenergizd recently which makes it more of a threat. hollywood is a diverse industry, in terms of, you know, blacks, latinos, women, lgbtq
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communities. hollywood is somebody that generally says, come and work, you don't have to have a particular degree or diploma or pedigree or what have you. that puts it at odds from a philosophical standpoint from the most conservative places in this country. now hollywood is being loud about it. with the advent of social media, now the actor has so much more reach than before. you used to see them do an interview, a press event, and that's it. now they have media platforms. >> they also have a reason to be passionate and vocal right now. while donald trump and a lot of republicans are out there fearmongering, talking of a caravan and all these things, they're also out there, you know, upsetting people with what they're doing with immigration, with their policies on race, with their policies on health care. things like that. so a lot of actors and entertainers who are citizens of this country too, are being
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pushed to speak out because they're afraid of what's happening. so it's a reaction to what this administration is doing. >> one thing we know, and we're going to have the lady who repopularized can't stop/won't stop coming up in the show, will packer, you're going to florida, bringing more celebrities to come down for andrew gillum. >> absolutely. my sister angela called me, my guy diddy is doing a midnight rally at florida university for andrew gillum, midnight on monday, i'm bringing out tiffany haddish, we're bringing a bunch of folks. hollywood won't stop, hollywood can't stop. >> my favorite thing about d.j. callen is a guy named khaled khaled is the biggest name in
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. we are in dangerous times right now and these are regressive policies coming from washington, d.c. we need to stand up to president trump with no exceptions whatsoever. >> latisha james could become the person donald trump is most afraid of if she wins her election on tuesday. joining me now is latisha james. tiss tish james, good morning. >> good morning, joy. >> you have been on this show, and we have interviewed you about your lawsuits, the things that you have done in regard with fox news, and all of the settlements with women. but now you are vying to be the attorney general of new york. and the sort of going story on that is that you would become donald trump's worst nightmare. if you become attorney general what would be your stance toward the current administration.
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>> the current attorney general is doing a great job. she's filed at least a hundred lawsuits against the administration. we would continue that, including but not limited to repealing, again, efforts to destroy our natural resources, protecting individuals with preexisting conditions, defending the affordable care act, going after the trump foundation which is nothing more than a personal piggy bank for president trump and his family to protecting immigrants, particularly those who have been separated at the border, protecting those individuals who are coming to our country who are seeking asylum where this president is using military forces and basically challenging their right to seek asylum, to seek freedom in our country, individuals who are freeing from personal -- from physical and violence from their country. it's really also critically important that we defend new yorkers particularly against attacks on their individual rights and on their freedoms, individuals who are freed, that they will no longer be allowed to deduct their state and local
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tax. individuals who are just members of the lgbt community who this president has consistently attacked. there's all of these attacks right now, he's trampling on the rights of individuals, destroying our democracy, tearing apart our moral fiber. it's really creditly important that individuals stand up. that's why i'm running for attorney general, in the words of dr. king, because of the fierce urgency of now. >> let's talk about immigration. this is the thing the president wants to focus on, the fictional idea that these impoverished people walking to the united states a mow miles away are somehow invading the country, what can a state like new york, thousands of miles away from the southern border, do in regard to immigration? >> it's important to know that anti-immigrant rhetoric and this divisiveness is nothing more than the president feeding red meat to his base and to excite them during this campaign and to get them all riled up to come out to vote. the reality is that there is a blue wave coming across this
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nation, particularly in new york state and we will stand up to president trump and we will protect the rights of individuals who are seeking asylum, who are fleeing violence and who basically just want to be safe. it's really critically important that we not use the military and that we protect these individuals, and that we recognize that the reason why america is great is because of immigration and immigrants who contributed so much to our economy and growth. >> let's talk about the current climate that we're in which, you know, has not just impacted part of america, it's really washed across the entire country, we saw the horror in pittsburgh, the shooting of multiple people at a synagogue there, the murders there, we've also seen in new york the defacing of jewish cemeteries, we've seen the defacing of even, you know, the beasty boys. we've recently seen the scrawling of racial slurs on an african-american cemetery. these kinds of incidents are now
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creeping into new york as well. how do you respond to that? what is happening that it's also happening in a blue state and a blue city like new york? >> so this morning we woke up in my former city council district in prospect heights synagogue, someone scrawled anti-smetic remarks, the african burial ground in new york, a hallowed ground, all of us need to stand up against these hateful attacks and we need to stand together recognizing there's more of us who believe in the fabric of america and recognize that love will conquer all and that hate is too much of a burden. it's really critically important that individuals understand that right now in this pivotal moment that these elections are -- this is the most consequential election in recent memory. it's really critically important that individuals get out to vote and that we join hands across this nation from state to state, from ocean to ocean against the regressive policies of this
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administration and basically freeze him in place. >> tish james, thank you for being here. i want to let the audience to know we did invite ms. james' opponent, kenneth wafford who did decline. thank you for being here this morning with us. >> i'm sure he did decline. he represents -- he voted for president trump. she's ashamed of that, and he represents the powerful and i represent the powerless, we do not need a trump supporter in the office of the attorney general. i'm urging everyone to come out to vote in three days, this tuesday, to send a powerful maine message to the president of these united states. >> unfortunately new york does not have early voting, thing is a problem, which hopefully new york will eventually fix. election day is tuesday, everybody get out and vote. more "am joy" after the break. lower premiums? extra benefits? it's open enrollment. time to open the laptop... ...and compare medicare health plans.
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what was most meaningful was standing there yesterday talking and knowing that my mom and dad could see that those sacrifices they made for us, the work they did for me and my five brothers and sisters, that it came to fruition. and that we are on the precipice of changing what leadership looks like. and to have your mother and your father who, you know, they're raising my niece right now, they have a 12-year-old at home, they
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are the living embodiment of why we do this work, why education is important, why health care is important, why jobs are important. because i've watched my parents struggle my entire life. and to be the product of their dreams is an extraordinary, extraordinary thing. >> welcome back to a special midterms road show edition of "am joy" coming to you live from centennial park in atlanta, georgia where just in the last hour on this show i spoke with the woman who could make history by becoming the nation's first african-american woman governor. the race is marked by voter suppression tactics that critics say have been deployed by abrams' opponent brian kemp who has a long history of purging voters in this state. let's bring in my friend nbc news correspondent katy tur. coming to you live from a brian kemp campaign event in peach tree corners, georgia.
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all right, katy, i feel like we're in two different countries, there's this sort of abrams world and there's the kemp world. give us a read of what kemp world is thinking this morning. >> reporter: you know, that's exactly what we were talking about last night. you and i were both at the stacey abrams boobama event. the demographics were different there, the way people were talking was different, a lot of people talking about health care, finding a way to come together, finding unity and the division we're seeing in our politics. here i've talked to a number of women because all the experts say and campaigns say privately it will come down to the female vote, specifically how white republican women break, if they stay with the republican or move over to stacey abrams. i've been talking to women here and try to get a sense of why they like brian kemp. it falls in line with the rhetoric we hear from donald trump. a lot of the ideas we hear from
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donald trump. immigration is a big priority for them. we're also hearing about health care. i talked to one lady who said that she doesn't want to see socialism, two ladies both saying they don't want to see socialism. they see stacey abrams as a socialist who will give health care to people who don't deserve it. immigration again comes up, what happened at the border. one woman was saying that she understands that the president and the administration made some mistakes at the border but they're working to correct it. it is a different, a different -- much different move, much different set of priorities at the two different events. i do want to talk to one lady, rachel, who's here with me now. when you come to a kemp event, what's a reason you're here? >> i'm a supporter of brian, have been for a number of years and i've known him for a while. i would be here today because of him. but on top of that, as a native georgian, and actually native to
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atlanta, i have watched the difference as our state has shifted from democrat leadership into republican leadership. and without a doubt the last few years under republican leadership and the governor's mansion, all the way through all of our constitutional officers, this state is moving ahead. there's a reason why, for years we've been named the number one state to do business, there's a reason why we're on the short list for hqii, whymer s mercedez came here. brian kemp is the candidate to continue to help us move forward. >> so for you it's the economy? >> it's absolutely the economy. and, you know, that's the thing, it's the economy stupid, that's been around for a long time. for me, it's true. my paycheck is better than it has been. all of those things kind of compile. >> let me ask you one other question. i was at the abrams event last
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night and a lot of voters were talking about unity and health care. are those two things that come into your mind? do you think brian kemp is somebody that can bridge a gap in this state if he were to win between republican and democratic voters? >> i think because brian is also a georgia native, from outside of atlanta in athens, he knows that there are two georgias, and that we have to work together to bring them together. it is the rural areas that health care is probably the biggest issue for them because of the hospitals that are closing and the lack of access when 159 counties, and you have so far to go to get to something, the people in south georgia have been turning out for him. i think that tells you who of the two candidates is going to do the best to reach out and make sure that health care is accessible. >> joy, i don't have to tell you this, it's going to be a close race, it already is a close race, a decimal point percentage between the two candidates right now, very likely to go off to a runoff on tuesday if one does
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not win 50 plus 1 percent. as you know it's a cloud of controversy. brian kemp is the one who will be in charge of a recount if there was a recount as he is the ag of this state. so, joy, we're going to be here through tuesday. we're going to be paying close attention, keeping a close eye specifically on women and where they break. >> you drew the hot hand on election night. you're going to be here in georgia. i want to really quickly, if you still have the lovely lady you spoke with near you, would you mind asking her, katy, two quick questions, if she's concerned that the national story about voter suppression is harming the state. >> yeah, sure. >> and is harming the perception of the state and whether the attacks on hollywood and the industry that pump so much money into this state, does she worry those things will actually harm the state. >> two questions, and these are from anchor joy. one, voter suppression has become a national issue. are you worried that it's
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damaged the perception of this state? >> that's a really good question. so, you know, we say perception is reality, right? i live in gwenet county, where we are today, it's been ground zero for some of that. i'm very close to the elections board, i have watched how they have processed things. there is no doubt in my mind, number one, everyone who's eligible to vote should be able to vote. brian kemp does not want anyone to not vote. >> he keeps losing court cases though. >> well, but losing court cases -- a stay is not losing a court case. a stay is we need to look at something. and don't forget, the laws that he's supporting on the exact match, that was under president obama. and so he's been following that law. >> does it concern you that it affects more african-american voters than it affects white voters? >> i think if it affects anyone,
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it would affect everyone. >> i think 70% or so, joy you might know the stat off the top of your head better than i do, but i think it's 70% or so african-american voters are affected proportionally by exact match. >> i don't know why you would think that. it seems -- >> that's what the statistics show. >> what i think you are suggesting is that african-american voters are unable to follow instructions and to be able to process -- >> oh, no, that's not what i'm suggesting. it's what the statistics show. it's not my conclusion. >> i disagree. you can take statistics to do whatever. in the state of georgia there is no one in this room today, our secretary of state has been following the law and we want everyone to turn out and vote and i would encourage everybody who hasn't voted yet tuesday, be there. i don't ever vote early because i think it's crazy and i like to vote on tuesday. be in line with me on tuesday. i love to stand there and talk to people. >> if they get turned away, what
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should they do? >> no one will be turned away. you can always vote a provisional ballot, fill it out and follow up. >> one quick question. oprah was here, will farrell was here for stacey abrams. there's been a lot of quote/unquote hollywood that's poured into her race. how do you feel about that? what do you think the effect is? >> really? you know, those folks can come to georgia if they want to, but i would suggest, particularly to oprah, who i think everybody admires and respects, she's from chicago. perhaps she should go home and look at her own state and try to help them, who every day we see in the news there are things there that break my heart, and i think breaks everyone's heart in the country. and i'd love for her to focus on that instead of focusing on georgia. >> rachel, thank you for talking to us. >> katy, thank you very much, appreciate it. a note for our audience, oprah winfrey is from mississippi, just like stacey
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abrams. for more on this now, how this will play out on tuesday, she really is from mississippi, and will packard is from atlanta. natasha brown of black voters matter. and joining us from baltimore, sherrilyn ifill, president of the naacp. i'm going to go to you first, i don't know if you were able to hear the woman who katy tur just interviewed. she essentially suggested the secretary of state here in georgia is not denying anyone their right to vote, and she made a suggestion that anyone who believes voter suppression is taking place in this state is saying basically that black people don't know how to follow directions. what are your thoughts on that? >> so many thoughts. let me start by saying it's very interesting to see that this event is happening this morning in georgia with secretary of state kemp when yesterday evening he was issued an order by a federal district judge involving this exact match. there were five affirmative
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things that the judge told him to do. i haven't checked this morning, but i hope that they were done. the judge essentially said that he has to issue new procedures, to tell people how they can vote if their registration was flagged for citizenship issues. he's to provide a press release explaining how people are to vote. he is to direct poll workers and county officials about allowing people to vote. he is to provide that people can vote by provisional ballot and so forth. i hope he has fulfilled all of the obligations that the judge put in her order as secretary of state, and that he is not allowed his campaigning to interfere with his job of leading the elections in the state of georgia. this is one of the conflicts we've raised when we have sent letters demanding that he recuse himself from overseeing this election as has former president jimmy carter. he essentially got two pieced yesterday, there were two decisions, one from the federal district judge about the
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citizenship issue and exact match and one from the 11th circuit court of appeals that refused to lift the stay on withholding some of these registrations and requiring that people be allowed to vote provisionally. that's what tells us, joy, that this election is going to be down to the minute and then even thereafter. there are going to be a lot of provisional votes in this election, and as you know provisional votes are not counted on the night of the election. it requires individuals to come back to the polling place, or to some other official and prove that their vote should be counted. and so in the days after the election, we may see lots of votes counted. but kemp, as i said, he got two pieced yesterday. i would think this morning he would be up working very hard to make sure that he was complying with the judge's orders rather than having a campaign rally. >> all right. well, the other thing that was said, i'm going to bring kareem jan pierre, one person at that
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rally said the exact match law, she blamed that on the obama administration. you worked in the obama administration. was that a policy this idea of exact signature match, was that an obama administration policy? >> absolutely not. that is a brian kemp policy. he's been doing this for some time now. you hear stacey abrams talking about it, she's been dealing with it science she started the georgia new project in 2013 when she was trying to register african-americans, latino, asian-americans, trying to get more people of color to register to vote. but i want to step back for a second and look at just georgia as a whole. the demographics of georgia is changing. the last president to win this state, and by double digits was in 2004 and that was george w. bush, he won by 67%. donald trump in 2016 won the state by five points. they're losing, meaning the republicans, are losing the grip on georgia and they cannot stop what's happening. and so what they're doing is
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they're creating and bringing forth this awful policy of voter suppression, making sure poor people, people of color, cannot go and vote. that's what we've been seeing in the past couple years from brian kemp for a long, long time and voter suppression is racism. that's exactly what it is. and now you couple that with the fear mongering that's happening from donald trump, brown people can't come to this country, now, you know, trying to suppress people of color, it is a really brew of toxicity that's unbelievable to be seeing right now. it has to be about the ground game, about bringing out voters. we're seeing amazing numbers in this state. >> la tasha brown, you've been working on the ground so you would know whether or not suppression is happening and who it is being directed at. your group is called black voters matter. talk about the experience of trying to get people the opportunity to exercise their right to vote here in this state. >> it's so rampant, what's happening, it's interesting listening to this woman say that
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there's not voter suppression. it is rampant in the state of georgia. it's always been a history, never been rid of. we've been running into, as we have people on the ground, particularly in south georgia and the rural communities, just recently a couple weeks ago we had 40 seniors who were not -- the county commission actually interrupted and said that they couldn't go vote. we've been running into people who have tried to register six times, had to go register six times. we had a man that we met down in crisp county who actually was taking people back and forth to vote. he got stopped by 12 cops, by 12 law enforcement. there is this -- it's to create this environment of fear. you know, people really are dealing with barriers to really go and go and get their access to the ballot. even if you go back to randolph county there's been this ongoing onslaught to prevent black voters in particular. demographics are shifting and changing. we're seeing on the ground, the
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good piece that we're seeing, we're seeing a lot of excitement. we've been here before. so folks know that the best way that you can actually deal with that is we've got to have massive turnout. >> yeah. you know, tiffany, it is interesting. somebody said at the obama/abrams -- president obama/stacey abrams event last night, the worst thing you can do is tell black people that they can't vote. all you're going to do is produce more black voters, people will come out in bigger numbers. the fact that that's happened may be part of what's generating so much turnout here. >> right. i'm so happy that katy was able to do the interview with that woman because that exemplifies what's happening in georgia. it's not the economy, stupid, it is willful ignorance, racism and voter suppression. we see that. and just by her ridiculous commentary that african-americans can't follow instructions, i hope the viewers paid attention to that because that's what she's saying. and the subtext of the message oprah ought to go back to chicago. we hear that. your coded language is very transparent to a lot of us. a lot of us are not surprised by
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the suppression tactics we see. >> mike pence is from indiana, let's talk about that. when this happened, all of us are like it's our old friend racism from jim crow. we've been here and done this. that's the great work that latosha is doing -- georgia is a really important state. it's not just georgia. since 201024 states have made voting more challenging. in different states. 13 of those states have enacted stricter voter id laws. we know who that impacts, that impacts people of color, and poor people. and we know why republicans don't want those people voting, because they tend to vote democrat. and i think the thing that i find most insulting is, you're lying to my face. like i would rather -- this is one thing, i grew up in georgia, i know georgia, it's a difference between the north and the south. in the south i know exactly where you're coming from. i know you. in the north you might smile in my face and i know how you feel inside. in the south people tell you how they feel. that woman just told the voters of georgia how she feels.
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>> she believed it. she believed every word she was saying. >> cherilyn, quickly before we go, this is all a result of the gutting of the voting rights act. we're seeing it in realtime. you and i had conversations after that happened. this was all foreseen, that if you ripped the heart out of the voting rights act this is exactly what would happen. >> this is the reason why states like georgia and texas and alabama and florida were under pre-clearance under the voting rights act and could not make these kinds of changes without getting permission from a federal authority because of the effect on african-american voters. i'm so happy that your panelists have said i know you're all about georgia this morning, but we've been in texas, you know, trying to make sure that prairie view a&m students have voting rights, madison county, alabama, college students being placed on enactive lists. this is happening all over the country. most specifically in those states and jurisdictions that used to be covered by section 5
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of the voting rights act, before the united states supreme court decided that they knew better than congress, that they know more about race than successive congresses that have reauthorized the voting rights act since 1965. now we're living with the fallout. what we're seeing around the country, joy, is that everyone is stepping into the breach. that's why the courts are so important. that's why people coming out, the ground game is so important, latosha brown leading at a bus of senior citizens, it's critical that everyone decide that we're not going to allow ourselves to be turned back to pre-1965 simply because the supreme court overstepped their bounds and decided that they knew better. we're seeing the truth right now. >> let's remember north dakota, native americans being prevented from voting, kansas. >> north dakota. >> and florida, there are 1.5 million people who cannot vote because they paid their debt to society, they have felon records, and you know that overwhelmingly impacts black and latino people because we know the history of mandatory
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minimums and how that destroyed people of color of people across the country. >> it's good news that people are fighting back. i also want to get a three shot of my panel here. i have done three costume changes. i did not dress for this weather. everything in my bag is useless. i'm wearing what i have. but these three ladies brought their "a" game. they are giving us a rainbow of color. they are giving us candy coated gloriousness this morning. i need a shot of this. this is beautiful. tiffany kroft, latosha brown, karine jean-pierre. sherrilyn ifill, i wish you could join us. >> 73 degrees in baltimore. >> thank you very much, i appreciate it. coming up, make no mistake, your decision on tuesday is more than just a political one, it is a moral decision. bishop william barber joins me next.
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we're on the list, sir, why do we have to leave? why do we have to leave this event? is it because of the color of our skin? >> obviously not. >> why did you tell us we have to leave? why do we have to leave? >> i've been asked to tell you to -- >> why do we have to leave if we're on the list? our names are on the list. >> on sunday activists at a rally for a tennessee candidate
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marsha blackburn were forced to leave even though they say they were calmly watching the event. one activist is being charged with criminal trespass and resisting arrest. joining me now to discuss this is the young man in the video that you just saw, justin jones. he's a student at vanderbilt divinity school, along with bishop william barber of the repairers of the breach. thank you both for being here. justin, first, give us background of what happened. you were asked to leave. where are these criminal charges coming from? >> yes, good morning, thank you for having us on the show today. on sunday we were at the marsha blackburn rally we rsvp-ed to.
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the security told us they were informed we have to leave. and as you saw in the clip previous we asked why. we did not have any issue. we were on the list. we rsvp-ed. it was a public get out the vote rally. the security guard told us the leave. the officer came in, told me he wanted to talk to me and then grabbed my hand and began dragging me outside as the crowd chanted usa and grabbed on us. i was brought to jail, released that evening. the commissioner told us she would not sign the warrant. within about two days i got a knock at the door at 9:30 p.m. by metro police saying the district attorney filed a new warrant for my arrest for the same charges. >> justin, what do you think drew attention to you? were you all saying anything, doing anything, or was it the fact, quite bluntly, that you were african-american in a room that didn't have a lot of diversity in it? >> what is crazy is that we weren't thrown out for saying anything.
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we were thrown out for listening. we were thrown out for trying to hear how the issues that were being discussed at this by people -- marsha blackburn said we were disruptive. not true. we were young people of color in a room in which we were not welcome. we have a history of young people being thrown out of establishments because of how they look. john lewis is from here, diane gnash is from here. they're taking us back to times we don't really want to go to. and so -- >> and we're talking, bishop barber, a lot about the south and about the real uprising, i guess you'd have to say, among african-american voters in the south, starting with alabama and virginia where a lieutenant governor who is african-american was elected, moving now down south your state of north carolina, all the lawsuits that have had to be filed. you have -- you have a lot of experience getting arrested, protesting in justice. what is this about? are you surprised that people would be willing to be so flagrant as to arrest young people merely for being in the
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room when it is clear how that is going to play on a national stage? >> think about it, you have young people in the room, and there were whites there as well, white students. it's as though the republican extremists, i can no longer say republican party, don't want certain people in their rallies, don't want immigrants in the country and they don't want black people to vote. why? because now we are seeing the possibility of this new moral fusion in the south. you and i have been talking about it for years, it was time. the south is not the old south. the demographics have shifted. you register 30% of african-american voters, connect them with progressive whites and -- the world changes, the politics of the nation changes. so people are afraid that their world is changing. and it is. and so what's happening is people are going back to an old playbook. that's why we saw voter suppression starting in 2010. not when trump -- that's why we see him playing to this race. that's why we see people like the secretary of state here
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playing to it. it's also why we're seeing the courts ruling it illegal. it's amazing to me when people say it's not happening, but the courts are saying it's illegal. we won in north carolina, both against gerrymander and voter suppression. the court did service it was surgical. victory this week in georgia. we are in a third reconstruction shift of society and politics. for some people that's a fear. >> you know, it's important, i think, to take this outside of donald trump because donald trump did not start this. >> very much so. >> this is happening independent of him. >> it is important to take it outside of him because then you think that he is the problem. and not the symptom. donald trump is speaking to an audience that's been cultivated since 1968 when kevin phillips told rirchd nixon if we engage in positive polarization, and we engage finding out who hates who and pit them against each other, even though they ought to be allies, poor low income whites and blacks ought to be allies, we can win the south. if we make the democratic party
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in their mind the black party, getting all this free stuff, and the republican party, strom thur man came in, hemp came in. reagan ran it, george w. bush ran it, trump is running it to the extreme. the other people coming up now, like the secretary of state of here, they're running it to the extreme. why? because they see it falling apart. >> yeah. >> they see it falling apart. >> justin, i wonder if in your demographic, the conceit is that this is only happening among americans of a certain age and up. i'm wondering if in your generation you're also seeing an uptick in the kind of open, sort of blatant racism and nativism we're seeing nationwide. >> yes, ma'am. many of the people, you know, at this rally, the people who were grabbing at us and hitting us were young people. it surprised me because, you know, to see students who go to the universities here nationally engaging in this type of violence and racism, it's like a spirit took over when they're chanting usa as they engage in
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this violence against us and cheered that we're being beaten. is this the usa they're comfortable with keeping. there was ten of us in the room when we walked in, four african-american, six white. only the african-american students were targeted, only the african-american students were told to leave. only the african-american students were handcuffed and put in place cars. that's shameful. it's shameful that, you know, even in a time when someone is running to represent the state of tennessee that extremists like marsha blackburn don't want to represent all tennessee ans. it's immoral and extreme and absurd that in 2018 we're still dealing with things like this, things my grandmother told me about. >> that's right. >> this is a divinity student. >> a friend of mine, a son in ministry. he's a person involved in moral tennessee. they're shouting to get him out. the candidate they're there to support wants to take their
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health care, will not provide them living wages, it is as though people are running on this racist voter discrimination ticket, using racism to get elected and then hurting mostly white people in raw numbers, black people in percentage. the height of immorality. we're in georgia right now, lexter madison said -- elect me, i'll take your voting rights, i'll deny you health care, i won't focus on a living wage, i won't focus on giving you labor rights, i'll cut your public education. but at least, at least i will have held up the banner of discrimination. i mean, it is so immoral what these politicians are doing and how they're playing on people. it is time for us in the south to reject that and begin to build these deep moral fusion coalition. i would say to parties, do not just do this until november and quit. it is time to come south and work hard for years and years to
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come to breakthrough this stuff and let a new south rise that's focused on justice, love and everybody having a place. >> indeed. bishop william barber, thank you very much. always appreciate the chance to talk to you in person is even better. justin jones, good luck to you, keep us posted on what's going on with you, young man. thank you very much for being here. >> we're getting out the vote here. >> you do that. we love young people voting. coming up the house democratic leader joins me to talk midterms, midterms, midterms, and what a democratic majority would do with divided government. you don't want to miss that. the meeting of the executive finance committee is now in session. and... adjourned. business loans for eligible card members up to fifty thousand dollars, decided in as little as 60 seconds. the powerful backing of american express.
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what now i'm saying is we will win. we will win. we will win. we will win. >> don't say that. do you want to say that on hillary's fireworks barge that she cancelled? please, please, please don't say that. >> we will win. we own the ground. we're not yielding one grain of sand. >> how long are the curtains you're measuring right now. >> we're not measuring, we're just walking precincts. if everyone votes we'll have even a bigger victory.
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>> house democratic leader nancy pelosi is sounding confident about the party's chances of retaking the house on tuesday. it comes as dave wasserman of the cook political report has revised its house outlook to project the democrats will pick up between 30 and 40 seats. they need 23 net, per steve kornacki to take the house. let's ask nancy pelosi who joins me now from sunny san francisco. i am enveeious of your weather. it's cold down here. you have made a very confident prediction about the midterms. upon what do you base that optimism? >> from the ground. good morning, joy. it's great to be with you as we're into under a hundred hours until we'll know the results of the election. and i speak from the ground. i've traveled all over the country, listening, listening, listening to our vips, our volunteers in politics.
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the most important people, those going door to door, making the calls. and the enthusiasm is something that i have never seen before. and this -- every election is a new election. past assumptions are obsolete. and so i speak from the authority of the ground, and it's very, very exciting. how big the victory will be depends on how many people vote. and as you see, there is great interest and great numbers. i don't even think all the republicans are going to vote republican. but i'm not counting on that. >> well, you know, you -- even the president, i'm not going to play it, but he's started to sound a little bit fatalistic about the house, and he's focusing more on the united states senate. does the fact he has shifted his focus to these immigration horror stories and to the united states senate, is that also indicating to you that even he thinks that the house is lost to his party? >> well, maybe he recognizes that our enthusiasm on the ground springs from the quality
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of our candidates. these candidates across the country, they know their why, they know why they are running and the vision they have for our country, they know the subjects that they care about the most, they know how to communicate, in an authentic way with their constituents. that is the strength of our victory. but it has to be translated into votes, and that's why the ground is so important. but it is a reflection of the enthusiasm for our candidates. i don't know what motivates the president to say what he says except it doesn't sound like he shares our values about the greatness of our country. >> yeah. you know, you occupy a lot of space in mind share among at least republican politicos. they tend to run against you as much as they're running against whatever individual democrat that's in their state or in their district. i'm going to play a couple of attack ads that are basically about you, rather than about the candidate. take a listen. >> nancy is smiling buzz amy
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mcgrath supports her liberal agenda. >> a vote for liberal gina jones is a vote to make nan say pelosi speaker and raise your own taxes. >> so lieu see mcbath who lost her son in an incident of gun violence, who's now running for congress, she's had one of these ads run against her in the state of georgia, why do you suppose that you keep getting onto the ballot when you're not running in all these races? >> they're afraid of me. a reflection of the bankruptcy. they have no ideas. they're going after health care, going after working families in such a trickling down way. but you know what, i'm effective. i'm effective in getting the resources necessary to win the election, more importantly i'm an effective legislator, and i'm a leader who's unifying and they want to present something different to the public. but quite frankly when they call me a liberal, especially when they call me a san francisco
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liberal, i take great pride in that appalachian. but i don't like them making it implying that there's something wrong with being from san francisco. i don't mind what they say about me, but i'm very defensive about what they might say about my city. i said to the candidates, just win, this is so important, it's not even about democrats or republicans, it's about our country, it's about following the guidance of our founders. epl epluribu s unum, for many, one, they knew we had to strive for oneness. we will win. i say to commentators who are not on the ground or listening to the ground, we will win. and people have to believe that we will win and act upon that belief. so i'm confident, i don't know how big it will be, i hope it will be a big victory so we can also win the senate. i know we'll win governorships. it's so exciting, gillum, adam,
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james, attorney general, all of these victories, such a transformative election for our country. but it's really about our constitution, it's about a system of checks and balances. that enables us to go forward in a way that honors the constitution as it unifies the country. that's what we will do on the first day of congress, to have a bill that our rules package that comes forth that says we will have transparency so the public can see how they are affected by public policy and legislation. we will have bipartisanship to try to reach out so that we can, again, unify our country. this is a very special time. as horrible of some of it is in terms of what the administration and the republicans are saying, not all republicans are saying that, but the ones in congress are, that's an opportunity for us to say we can do things differently. we can be respectful of other views, and we can get results for the american people.
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it's pretty -- it's a pretty exciting time. but i -- i've said over and over, and you've heard me say it and others say it, this is the most important election of our time. each election seems to be, but nothing is crucial as this. >> absolutely. i think one of the reasons, i want to talk a little bit about the agenda in theory, not that we're saying the election is over until everybody votes. but i guess the question a lot of people have what would materially be different with democratic leadership? what specific policies you've talked about a sort of unifying agenda, but what would be on the table, oversight of donald trump, talking about backing up robert mueller, are we talking about impeachment, talking about somehow intervening in what's happening at the border, what specific things, what is your one, two, three agenda that you want to see enacted under democratic leadership in the house? >> well, first of all, as i said we will have a congress that is transparent, accountable, bipartisan to the extent that we can, a responsibility to find our common ground, where we can,
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or as thomas jefferson said, stand like a rock where we cannot and to do so that is unifying. that agenda is what we are saying. what are democrats for? we are for the people. we are for lowering health care costs by reducing the cost of prescription drugs. that will be an early legislation. we are for bigger paychecks, lower health care costs, bigger paychecks by building the infrastructure of america and therefore we are for more integrity in government by lowering the influence of big, dark money in politics. that would probably be hr-1, maybe won't take it up first, depends how the committees act. but that has great support among our candidates. and don't forget, they will weigh in and establish what the agenda is too. but what we're talking about, lower health care, bigger paychecks, cleaner government. we also will do what we have asked the republicans to do, to pass bipartisan common sense
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background checks. we're not going to rest until we get gun safety legislation passed, protect our dreamers. we've asked republicans to do that. we know there's bipartisan support for both of those. that shouldn't be such a heavy lift. of course we want to do the equality act so that we can end discrimination against the lgbtq community. fundamental to it all is the voting rights act. you've talked a good deal about suppression of the vote. the voting rights act. when the court acted i think they acted incorrectly to limit the voting rights but they gave congress opportunity to pass a voting rights act that would correct some of what they said needed to be corrected. it is -- it's been years since that happened. the republicans refuse to do it. but that will be central because it's central to our constitution, the beautiful sacred right to vote. supporting the constitution, the oath of office that we take,
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which is about a system of checks and balances. when you talk about what is the agenda, the agenda is to honor our responsibilities to protect and defend, our responsibility to be a check. first branch of government, first our beautiful preamble, article one, the legislative branch. and we have a responsibility to be a check and balance, coequal branch of government with the executive and judiciary. so we will be doing that. when you ask about specific oversight this or that, as it is in keeping with our oversight, our check and balance responsibility in the constitution. again, we will choose paths that get results for the american people for their financial stability in a way that unifies our country. we have to see it as an opportunity. bishop barber talks about the unifying role that we need to play in our country, how justin,
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the beautiful courage of that young man. something's wrong when a young person goes to a rally and is asked to leave, maybe because of the color of his skin. but again, i think generally in the public there would be a rejection of that attitude. and we cannot treat people the way they treated us. we have to show a better, higher road. >> well, in that vain, though, because a lot of -- >> i'm sorry. >> sorry, i was going to ask, because i think a lot of people you know who watch this show, a lot of people who have been following what's been going on with the robert mueller investigation expect or anticipate that one of the things democrats would do would be to convene impeachment hearings or to convene really stringent investigations of donald trump, maybe even of justice kavanaugh. is that on the agenda, should democrats take over the house? >> well, we have great leaders in the party, jerry nadler,
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judiciary, elijah cummings, government reform committee, benny thompson, homeland security, maxine waters in terms of money laundering aspects, they will make decisions within their committees as to what oversight and perhaps investigation that we should do. and then that will have a consensus within our party about that. we have to wait and see what the mueller investigation will yield to. but one thing is for sure that we will be asking for the preservation of the documentation of that hearing. i don't think that you can even talk about impeachment until we see the results of that investigation, and again we're trying to find unifying solutions. people see that we are working primarily on their financial security. so keep taking it back to what our main purpose is and other responsibilities that will make
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judgments as we go along. we must preserve the documents. i think you'll see early on something about seeing the president's tax returns, an approach that will say every nominee of each party should show his or her tax returns as you go her tax returns as you go forward. so some issues like that, but again we cannot -- >> i'm sorry. i wanted to ask about immigration. the president has made this the cornerstone of his closing argument. there's a bill that passed the united states senate, did not get even introduced on the floor of the house. if you become speaker again, speaker of the house, would you introduce that senate immigration bill, and do you think it will pass? >> well, it would have passed, and we asked the speaker at the time to bring up the bill. it was a compromise bill, but it did the job. they just refused to do it. and, by the way -- and that was
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even before president trump became president, and then he used the immigration just for fear amo fearmongering, but i just would like to say on the campaign trail one of the presidents i quote the most is on immigration. and i'm just going to read this one sentence, because i think people should know how different this president is from previous presidents in terms of immigration. here's what ronald reagan said. this is the last speech he made as president of the united states, so just put it in context -- thanks to each wave of new arrivals to this land of opportunity we are a nation for every young bursting with energy and new ideas, and always on the cutting edge, always leaving the world to the next frontier. this quality is vital to our future as a nation. if we ever close the door to new americans, our leadership in the world would soon be lost.
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ronald reagan, his last speech. ronald reagan, george herber walker bush, president clinton, president george w. bush, president obama, all understand the constant reintegration of america, when newcomers comes with their determination to make the future better for that you are families, those are american traits and they make america more american. so we just have to stay with our message -- lower health care costs, bigger paychecks, cleaner government, in order to do something about guns, immigration, voting rights cleaning up gov. >> nancy pelosi -- >> just remember one thing. we're going to win. we don't agonize, we organize.
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in 100 hours, we'll have the results. thank for you invitation do been here this morning. >> thank you very much. a reminder to the audience. i will be back at 6:00 p.m. tonight to kick off our primetime coverage. coming up next, more "a.m. joy" live from atlanta. (burke) fender-biter. seen it, covered it.
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