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everyone everywhere must vote in massive numbers. >> i'll be back on monday night at 10:00 p.m. with "the last word." msnbc's campaign coverage continues right now. ♪ we are here in the home stretch. saturday night. three days to go until the midterm elections. our special coverage continues right now in a moment with oscar winner michael moore, who joins me live. and trump on a blitz in red states, rallying in florida tonight. the last minute polling unanimously shows democrats winning the house with new estimates of democrats gaining 30 to 40 seats. the early voting turnout so far is huge. we can report nearly 33 million ballots have been cast.
that already exceeds -- think about this -- the total nationwide early vote from the last midterms in 2014. we've got reporters fanned out across the nation this weekend. garrett haake covering texas. hallie jackson with trump in florida right now. and vaughn hillyard in arizona. garrett, starting with you, a lot of people think of texas as pretty red. how did this get to be such a competitive race, and which way do you see it heading this weekend? >> reporter: that's a great question, ari. look, this is a race where you've had the o'rourke candidacy which a lot of people wrote off early which has raised a ton of money, gotten a lot of tension. i'm with ted cruz today in victoria, texas, very conservative part of the state. and cruz is running on essentially a two-part strategy here. he is trying to hug president trump, make the point of what they've been able to accomplish in two years of a republican majority, talks a lot about the tax cut, a lot about rolling back regulations. then it's about disqualifying
beto o'rourke and trying to paint him as too liberal for the state of texas. i've bounced back and forth between tehese two campaigns an two candidates and they're talking to almost entirely different e electric trots here. one of the thing that cruz says on the stump, that this is the race with the most contrast of any race in the country and you can hear the cruz supporters behind me getting involved. cruz is absolutely right about that. there is no race in the country with more contrast. the tea party republican, one of the originals, against a progressive democrat in the state of texas. for o'rourke to win, it's essentially based on this idea that there are voters in texas who have not existed up to this point, who are waiting for an excuse, a reason to come out and vote, someone who they think can win, who they think can turn texas blue. but, ari, the last time texas elected any democrat to a statewide position was in 1994. the math is not on his side. so they're essentially trying to create a proof of concept that
this is even possible in the state of texas. and we're not going to know until tuesday, we'll say. both campaigns are very intrigued by the early vote numbers, which have blown the doors off anything else we've ever seen in texas. what that means, we'll find out tuesday. >> all right. we can see all those fans and ted cruz folks hnd you for sure. what are you seeing at the trump rally, hallie? >> reporter: hey there, ari. so at this point we're in what you could call the opening act, the republican speakers, people here in florida coming up, getting the crowd fired up as you can hear behind me. we expect to see air force one rolling in in the next couple of minutes as president trump makes his way here from bozeman, montana. here's the deal. what we've seen from the president so far today has been, yes, his greatest hits to stick with our sort of headliner theme here but also a bit of a twist. that's a beefed up emphasis on the economy. you've had the president come out and go and attack those who wonder, hey, how come you're talking so much about immigration and not, for
example, those strong jobs numbers that we've seen just yesterday come out? the president said, hey, he said this to his supporters in montana. i talk about the economy, but you know what? how many times can you say we have a good economy, and i'm paraphrasing here. his point is he wants to talk about, he says, the problems he did fix. to the president, that means one thing. the issue of illegal immigration. so again he has been hammering this. we expect that to continue over the next 72 hours or so until polls open all across the country. and the president is in this sprint. he's going to these places. so, for example, pensacola tonight. he goes to georgia, tennessee tomorrow. then three stops on monday. but these are places that are, according to a new associated press analysis that i think is worth mentioning, less educated, whiter, less wealthy than the rest of the country as a whole. in other words, the president is going to places where he did well in 2016 to push that strategy again. and the rationale is hey, it worked then, why not now? democrats will make a very different argument, which is things are different now, and that's why. and that is something that you
heard people like president obama, as he's been on the trail, former vice president joe biden talk about as well. joe biden out in ohio today. he's totally losing his voice because he has been campaigning so much, essentially saying, i'm an optimist, and i think that the country is ready for a change. so that's where we are. we're in a bit of a lull at the moment because the hangar doors just opened. it's a beautiful saturday night here in florida. the sun is just now setting and folks are anxiously awaiting the arrival of air force one. >> thank you, hallie, for that report. vaughn hillyard flanked by two beautiful cacti. what are you seeing? >> reporter: yeah, good evening, ari. this is essentially a race that i think we'll be talking about beyond tuesday night because it's really a question of where does the west go from here? you have two candidates, republican martha mcsally, who has essentially run tied to donald trump. donald trump was here one week ago with her on the campaign trail. don junior was here just two days ago. by contrast, you have democrat kyrsten sinema, who has over the last six years in congress kind of positioned herself as a blue
dog democrat. she's been on the airways here in the state since the spring marketing herself as that western independent, sort of the maverick, trying to take that mantle from john mccain. so the question is where do republicans in this state fall? this is the state of barry goldwater, of john mccain, and now suddenly the democrat in this race is positioning herself as the future of this state. we were just over outside of actually at a tailgate over at the arizona state football game here earlier this afternoon. it was quite remarkable to be frank. talking with the number of republican independent voters that we did, that said they are going to go vote for kyrsten sinema because they're frustrated with the leadership of not only donald trump, but also republican members of congress. they said martha mcsally is emblematic of that, essentially going and voting for that house-backed bill -- the health care repeal back in may 2017, and they said that was evidence that martha mcsally was willing to go along with whatever the trump administration was pushing forward. ari? >> thank you, vaughn. thanks to everyone out in the
field. we'll be hearing from them all weekend and well on into tuesday. i turn now to academy award winning documentary filmmaker and activist michael moore. thanks for making time on a busy weekend. >> thank you, ari. i'm here in pennsylvania, and there are no cacti like that here in pennsylvania. >> no, but your hat's green instead of -- >> my hat's green. west virginia, so i'm hitting all the bases here in the last few days. >> everything you can do. i want to get into -- >> yes, everything. >> i want to get into economics and jobs with you. in a minute, we have some stuff on that, but let's start on an election weekend with the politics. you see these polls not only shows democrats up, but cook, which is nonpartisan, showing them up by a lot, potentially taking over 30 seats, which would be a clean sweep of the house. you have warned about that kind of thing before. what's your view of it tonight? >> yes. i'm warning against it now. do not listen to the polls or the pundits. their stuff was wrong before. people in the weekend before the
election in 2016, democrats were all excited. everybody was feeling like it was in the bag. even in "the new york times" on the day of the election said that there was only a 15% chance of trump winning that day. so do not pay any attention to this. do not listen to nancy pelosi when she goes on stephen colbert and said, we've got victory here in our sights. no, we don't. you have to take trump seriously. as much as you might think he's, you know, cuckoo for cocoa puffs, this guy has beaten us. he won the white house by losing the election. that takes some sort of evil genius to pull that off. and if you sell him short now in these last few days, if you don't think that they don't have something up their sleeve or they're not out there working their tails off, they are. and they're counting on us not doing that. so every waking moment of these last 72 hours, everybody has to be off the bench. everybody has to be doing
something. i encourage people to go to the last weekend.org. go there and you can find out what's happening in your local area, how you can volunteer, how you can do things tonight, tomorrow, monday. everybody has got to get involved. they're so counting on liberals to do what liberals do, and this is how we lose so many times when, in fact, we represent the majority of public opinion. just let me just say this one statistic. the republicans have won the popular vote for the presidency only once in the last 30 years. that's how much the american people don't want the republicans. only once since daddy bush won in '88 did they win the popular vote, and that was with sonny george in 2004. >> and your point there really goes to what we're seeing in georgia and other places, which is how do they get into office? how do republicans get into office many times while losing the popular vote? and it's because of the fact that the playing field's not
always level, and sometimes that's leftover constitutional stuff, and sometimes it's what's actively going on. your film making and your activism puts you in touch with a lot of people. it's interesting hearing your warning tonight even with these polls showing the dems up. we polled it an. if there's ever a weekend to play it, i think it's right now. your warning in the summer of 2016 when widely -- i don't mean just the media or democrats who wanted to see it a certain way. republicans who would come on the news and talk to us off the record and on background, all uniformly saying very unlikely that trump would win. here's what you said then. >> i'm sorry to have to kind of be the buzz kill here so early on. but i think trump is going to win. michigan, wisconsin, ohio, and pennsylvania, and mitt romney lost by 64 electoral votes. the total electoral votes of those four states in the rust belt, 64. all he has to do is win those four states.
>> what led you to think that, and how does that apply today when some people would look at that and say, okay, but hasn't everyone been put a lot more on notice about trump and about being civically involved? >> well, i live there first of all. i'm from michigan. i live in michigan. i vote in michigan. and so, you know, i pay attention to the people around me. and i saw it happening. and i couldn't get the people in the bubble, democrats who were living in the bubble in new york or on the west coast, to understand that in the midwest, blue states were going to vote for trump not because they necessarily loved him, but they have been so depressed economically, they saw trump as their molotov cocktail to throw into a system that had done them wrong and to blow up that system. and so they could do it non-violently by going to the polls and voting for trump. now we're in a situation where people have had 21 months of trump, and, you know, i think it's so dangerous tonight. anybody who is just sitting back a little bit going, yeah, it's
looking good, we're going to get the house at least, no. no. let me tell you something. the republicans, steve bannon, donald trump, they plan on winning the house on tuesday by one seat, maybe two. that's their plan. and they have pulled it off. not only did they pull off the 2016 election, they pulled off brett kavanaugh. they've pulled off the tax cut for the rich. >> sure. >> they are very good at what they do, and you need to take them seriously. and nobody -- anybody who is thinking right now, oh, yeah, we've got it in the bag, you're helping to contribute to our defeat on tuesday. can i just say one thing about the polls? >> i want to get you on trump economics. i don't want to lose all our time. >> yeah, yeah, okay. all right. >> you're a director. you know how time works. >> no, no. i am -- you are the director of this show, and i am your servant. so please proceed. >> so let me play for you donald trump talking about how his economic plan was going to work and him getting pushed about
debt because this will also be the first vote since trump economics has been put in force in the tax cut and what is a growing deficit. take a look at this. >> we're going to create a dynamic economy again. we're going to bring the jobs back from china, from mexico, from japan. >> but you still owe them money. >> from vietnam. >> you still owe them money. so you bring it back. how are you going to get the debt down? >> because the country is going to start growing. >> even if you gin the economy up, how does that pay down $21 trillion? you have to take money from the corporations and people to do it. >> it will work, bill. >> the debt is still on the books. >> whatever you think of either speaker, the exchange is important. i want to get you on the economics because we're going to put up on the screen so voters know going into tuesday exactly what he's doing. the opposite of what he claimed. obama had a deficit that was decreasing down to $587 billion with all of the growth plan he did coming off the recession.
already donald trump exploding it, exploding it to $782 billion. do voters in the places that you're talking to, do they know that? does that matter? does the deficit and tax bill hurt or help donald trump and the republicans tuesday? >> he's learned that the more often he tells the lie, the more believable it becomes. and i think that -- no, i don't think most people understand that. not much time is spent on television talking economics. it's boring television. so i think, yes, i think there is a lack of understanding of this. but as president obama said yesterday, his last 21 months, there was much more job growth than there's been in the 20 months here of president trump. so i think -- look, you can keep saying that the economy is doing great. what that means is that wall street is doing great. the people that got the tax cut are doing great. and we're going to have to pay
for it because if you cut -- if you cut billions and billions of dollars in taxes, you have to make that up somewhere, which means you've got to cut billions and billions of dollars worth of services. where are you going to cut it from? you know where he's going to try to take it out of. it's going to come out of health care. it's going to come out of medicare. it's going to come out of social security. that's the long game that they're playing, and everybody better be aware of this because they are damn well going to do it. if you don't think they're going to do it, then you're one of the people that was saying there's no way an idiot could win the presidency of the united states. quit thinking that way. they're not idiots. they know exactly how to do this. they're going to do it, and they're counting on us to not be there. do not listen to the polls. "the new york times" has gotten so good at describing their polling methods, and i just want to point this out. in the poll they took this week on the texas senate race between o'rourke and cruz, they contacted 51,000 texans. this is according to "the new york times." 51,000 texans. only 800 would respond to them.
they contacted 7,800 18 to 29-year-olds. only 66 of those young adult voters responded. so even they will admit, don't trust this. we don't really know what's going to happen. the republicans could hang on to the house and get more seats in the senate. >> yeah, i have -- >> that's extremely likely. >> to agree with you, michael, i'm in a newsroom. we have a lot of smart people with a lot of experience here. i have no idea what's going to happen tuesday. i have no idea whether the various local polls are going to be over or underreporting what they say although it's interesting they seem to be leaning democrat. i think you make such an important point. the other thing i want to ask you, you're a storyteller. we mentioned your oscar. you've told stories that have changed the way people think about the iraq war, about health care in this country, about guns. obamacare is one piece of the health care story. i wonder what you think accounts
for this huge shift. i've been covering this for years. you've been involved in this since before it was written into law. i can tell you there was a time where it was very controversial, where democrats were running from it, and there was a lot of confusion about it. and here we are going into these midterms and we see republicans running on parts of obamacare, pretending they didn't vote to repeal it. how do you think that story changed, and what's important about that going into tuesday? >> it changed in part because since president obama was elected in 2008, there have been 38 million young people that turned 18 in these ten years. 38 million young voters who once obamacare passed in 2010 saw that they were going to be protected, that they could, for instance, stay on their parents' health care plan until they were 26. this has become so much a part of our fabric now of
pre-existing conditions, of staying on until you're 26. listen, there's a lot of things that need to be fixed about obamacare. we need to take the private insurance companies out of the control of our health care programs in this country. but i think it's because we have a lot of young people who are going to vote. even your own reporting has shown in early voting in texas, over 400% difference between the young voters in 2014 and the young voters who have early voted in 2018. 700% in tennessee, 18 to 29-year-olds. >> yeah, it's wild. >> increase over 2014. so, yes, things look good. things seem good. and we've been here before when it seemed good, and you're going to wake up wednesday morning with the biggest hangover, political hangover, life hangover if we don't -- >> life hangover. >> everybody has to work. >> you know what kanye west said, michael? we drink to get the pain over. but what's worse -- >> kim, please let me back in the bedroom?
>> you know what, i'm going to let you have it. mine was real, yours was imaginati imaginative. but i'm going to let you have it. >> i think somehow she won the day. >> she's more blue, and he's more red, and he's now going back saying his politics were misinterpreted, whatever that meant. >> whatever that -- hey, you know, redemption. we must believe in it. hold your hands out to the people in your family, your friends who might have voted for trump. there's 8 million obama voters that voted for trump in 2016. we can bring some of them back on tuesday. i think they've had their fill of him, and i can only hope that especially where i live -- and ari, look at this too, michigan, wisconsin, ohio, pennsylvania. each of these states could go blue on tuesday. each of them, the governor could be a democrat. it's been a long time since we've had that. and it's very likely it could happen. >> yeah. >> i feel it. i feel it in the midwest.
the midwest for the midterms. that's what i tell people. we've got to be the ones to save the country. >> michael, thank you very much for making time. i know you're crisscrossing the country. thank you so much. michael moore, as always a treat to talk with you. >> happy to do it. coming up, there is the obama factor we were just discussing. he's going after the gop as well as trumpism. later, this epic surge of female candidates. two women for the first time who are going to be part of our special coverage live tonight. and later, grammy winner ashanti campaigning with some other artists to turn out the youth vote. she's also here live later. i'm ari melber. you're watching our special election coverage this saturday night on msnbc. ♪ ♪...from far away. but they only see his wrinkles.♪ ♪he's gotta play it cool to seal the deal.♪ ♪better find a way to smooth things over.♪ ♪if only harry used some...
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a blue wave equals a crime wave. a red wave equals jobs and safety. >> if you turn out on tuesday to vote for this whole incredible florida ticket, i promise you something powerful happens. change starts to happen. hope starts to happen. >> tonight we're now three days away from these midterms. democrats and republicans arguing the closing messages. trump and obama also squaring off in this home stretch with high stakes. i'm joined by e.j. dionne from "the washington post" and dorian warren, president of the center for community change action.
e.j., what's going to happen? >> well, you know, i think michael moore is right that no one should take anything for granted until the last vote is counted because a lot of these races are close. but this feels much more like a democratic weekend than it felt like before the 2016 election. there's a different mood out there. i think first of all you're seeing a lot of races seem to be falling more the democrats' way, particularly in the house. you have a degree of enthusiasm out there and engagement by democrats that you didn't have in the same way in 2016. and i think republicans particularly again in the house races are going to regret that president trump decided to close on this very divisive, often hate-filled message about immigration. hallie jackson said earlier that he was going to beef up his emphasis on economics. it's a little late for that. and to do what trump did after
the tree of life mass shootings and after the pipe bombs, i think that just pushes a lot of those moderate voters who did not want to -- who don't like that aspect of trump further toward the democrats. so it feels much more like a democratic close to me than it did two years ago. >> dorian, the president, who is not in office, barack obama, knew that he sounded a little repetitive in claiming now this is the most important election because he said that about his elections. understandable. 2016, well, that's when trump got in. but this seems to be the recurring thing. take a look at him rallying folks in georgia. >> tuesday might be the most important election of our lifetimes. politicians will always say that, but this time it's actually true. the stakes really are that high. >> the democrats -- and it could happen, could happen.
we're doing very well, and we're doing really well in the senate. but could happen. my whole life, you know what i say? don't worry about it. i'll just figure it out. >> donald trump there hitting more of a joy behar mood of don't worry about it. who cares? so what? >> so the closing argument is important, and god bless barack obama and joe biden and others who are showing up the week before to make the closing argument. but there is a political earthquake i think that's about to happen. >> you do? >> it's the result of a few of us who have been knocking on doors not in the last week or the last month, since february in key states like florida and nevada and michigan, michael moore's state, and talking to voters repeatedly. and especially infrequent voters and first-time voters. so the way to win, the idea here is to change the equation for winning for democrats. and you can do that by adding new people to the electorate and recruiting people who don't normally vote. and we're already seeing some of those results in some of the early voting and mail ballots
that have come back. this has been a months-long campaign to get people to the polls who get ignored by campaigns, who normally aren't talked to. and people are voting not just against trump or against white nationalism. people are voting for hopeful things. in florida they're voting for a candidate who is giving a hopeful vision. they're voting for expanding democracy by restoring the right to vote for felons. i've talked to people on the doors in florida the last couple weekends. trump doesn't come up, especially among black and brown voters who haven't voted before maybe or haven't voted since 2016 or 2012. they're not talking about trump. they're talking about gillum and amendment 4. they're very clear about what they're voting for, and it's a message of hope, and it's not the first time they're being talked to before the election. >> e.j.? >> well, you know, it struck me -- i was last weekend with a democrat running against david bratt, the tea partier out in virginia near richmond. abigail spanberger.
and she doesn't have to mention trump. i think a lot of these democratic candidates are, as dorian suggests, talking about other issues. they're talking especially about health care. they're talking about jobs and job training. and they're really trying to send a message, look, he is going to keep talking about all these divisive issues. we want to solve some problems. i also agree with him by the way that some of the organizing out there is not just in the last week or the last month. there has been a mobilization going on in the country that was visible in all these special elections. >> mm-hmm. >> that we've had since trump was elected. now, the senate's going to be a lot harder. i mean democrats, i think, are feeling better than they have in a while about the house. the senate is still very difficult because, you know, i like to joke the senate is gerrymandered by the constitution. and what's happening, a lot of these races are in republican territory.
but i think the house and especially the governorships are looking like they're leaning pretty hard toward the democrats. >> e.j. and dorian, my thanks to both of you as part of our special election coverage. up ahead, another story line this year has been the record number of women candidates along with stacey abrams there trying to make history. later, a focus on the youth vote. we have numbers and ashanti. we'll explain later this hour. with moderate to severe ulcerative colitis, are you okay? even when i was there, i never knew when my symptoms would keep us apart. so i talked to my doctor about humira. i learned humira can help get, and keep uc under control when other medications haven't worked well enough. and it helps people achieve control that lasts. so you can experience few or no symptoms. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers,
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[ applause ] if you're a woman, you need to recognize it hasn't even been a hundred years since we even had the right to vote. >> oprah winfrey talking about the women's vote. this week i spoke with eight first-time women candidates from both parties about the surge this year. many have the potential to set records. >> there's never been a native-american woman in congress. >> there has never been a woman of color elected into congress in pennsylvania. and in addition to that, there's actually never been a korean-american female elected into congress in the history of the united states of america. >> connecticut as well has never sent an african-american woman to congress. >> i look forward to being the first out member of congress from texas. >> there are no women doctors currently in congress, and there's actually never been a democratic woman doctor who was a full voting member in the house of representatives. i think congress needs a doctor in the house. >> with me now, we turn to two more women on the ballot this
tuesday for the first time. mary barzee flores, a democrat running for congress in florida, and mary gate scanlon. scanlon is running against pearl kim, who was part of that eight-candidate panel we did, and we invited a lot of other folks to come in who were running against those folks. my thanks to both of you. i guess i'll start with mary gay and say how does gender come up, if at all, for you out on the campaign trail? >> well, it has certainly come up a lot less in our race since we have two women running against each other. it causes voters to focus on the differences between us. >> which as you say kind of in a good way cancels out that as a contrast point. what about what might be called women's issues, health care, a lot of debates we've seen over the supreme court in the past two years? >> well, certainly and our positions have been very different there. my opponent has not committed to
repairing the affordable care act. she, in fact, is not pro-choice. she has hewn to many of the republican party's positions. >> and mary flores, what about you? same set of questions. >> so in my race, i hear gender come up quite a bit, and i hear it from democrats, from non-party affiliated or independent voters, and from republicans. there seems to be a real hunger for change and for folks who can work across the aisle with folks on the other side of the aisle. and over and over again i hear from people that maybe it's time we have more women in congress. >> mm-hmm. >> and i don't just hear that from women. i hear it from men as well. >> when men say it, what do you think they're thinking? >> i think they're thinking that there's gridlock, that there's too much partisanship, that folks are not working together in the best interests of
americans, and that too many people are beholden to special interests, and that if it's not working the way it is, why don't we try something different? >> and mary flores, for you as well, in florida, how is the governor's race affecting what you're up to? do you think it will affect turnout? do you think it will help or hinder democrats? >> mayor gillum, andrew gillum, is very much energizing folks all over the state, and again it's not just democrats. and i think it will help turn out voters, especially young voters and folks who have just recently registered to vote. and i think that's going to be great up and down the ticket. >> mary gay, walk us through what the next couple days look like for you. we were listening earlier in the hour to michael moore who warned against trump winning in 2016, saying dems shouldn't take anything for granted. he was criticizing someone you would be working with presumably if you win, nancy pelosi, saying she is wrong to tout a
democratic victory this weekend. what do you think about all of that, and what are you doing up through tuesday? >> well, certainly if we've learned anything, it's not to believe polling and pundits. you know, we have to learn that lesson at least. i'm actually running in two races on tuesday, so i'm running in a general election that is in one district. i'm also running in a special election to complete the term of a congressman who had to resign amid me too allegations. so they're two different races because we've just had a gerrymandering decision here in pennsylvania. so i am running hard right through tuesday. i'm a runner. >> what happens if you win both? >> if i win both, i would be sworn in a week from tuesday. >> you'd be sworn in, then what happens? >> so i would serve the remainder of the former congressman's term up through the end of this year and then be sworn in for the new term. >> and then take up the other one. >> starting january 3rd. >> would you be the first person
ever to do that as a district swap type situation? >> i think it's a pretty unusual situation here in pennsylvania because we did have this gerrymandering decision come down right in the middle of election season. but actually there's another woman in the same position as me, susan wild, who is running for a seat in the lehigh valley, and she's in the same situation, running in an old district to complete a term, which is not the same as the new district. so they're very different races, and certainly have not been focused on by the national media. >> yeah, it's fascinating. you learn something new every day. my thanks to both of you for joining our special coverage tonight. coming up, grammy winner ashanti is working with mtv and other celebrities trying to get young people out to the polls. she'll be here live next.
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turnout this weekend, mtv working with that parkland student effort you may have heard about and artists like mclemore and fat joe as well as grammy award winning singer ashanti who joins me live in a moment, and we don't have to wait until tuesday to find out if young people are voting right now. polls do show a surge. take the tight race in georgia. early youth vote has jumped there compared to the last midterms. a similar explosion in texas where they had 118,000 in the last midterms and it's now jumped four times that. take tennessee, which is another state people are watching. a 760% spike to 97,000 turnout from youth voters. we turn now to singer/songwriter ashanti. she's part of mtv's plus one the vote campaign, which is doing a lot of work on this. thanks for joining. what are you saying to your many fans and your young fans about all this? >> hey, guys, please get out there and vote if you want to
see change, it is in your hands. we can all do this, so let's do it. >> let's do it. it's like a twist on the nike slogan. let's take a look, ashanti, at one of the videos that you made about this. here it is. >> this election day, bring a friend to the polls. who's your plus one? >> i'm inviting my sister, shia, to vote. >> hey, here's my plus one. >> register now at plus one the vote.com because every vote counts. but voting with a friend counts a little more. >> what are you hearing from people when you talk about this? i just had dorian warren on, who does a lot of civil rights organizing, and he was saying a lot of minority voters are done even talking about trump. there's other issues animating them. what are you hearing? >> i'm hearing that some kids or some of the youth don't think that their vote counts. so i like to use my platform to let them know it counts so much. i feel like doing things like this and teaming up with mtv and getting my younger sister
involved, all of that helps. we want to see change. we definitely want to see change as soon as possible. so i'm hearing that the more we do with this, the numbers translate as you just said. >> mm-hmm. it does seem anecdotally there are more prominent artists out this cycle. 2016 may have been a time where folks kind of stepped back or maybe didn't think it was as close as it was. in texas, a race we've been covering, we've got travis scott, out with beto o'rourke. black thought from the roots, which a lot of people remember from philadelphia or from "the tonight show" just made a video with us on "the beat" making a similar point as yours. take a look. >> if you're unhappy with the government and the way things are run in this country but you don't plan on voting in the upcoming midterm elections, then you need to fall back. >> what do you see as the message regarding who to vote for? there's a lot of talk about being civically engaged but you'll notice black thought there was just saying vote in
general. travis scott is showing up like taylor swift did with specific candidates. >> i feel like if you are one of the ones that want to see a change f your life has been affected and not for the good, it's obviously you know who to vote for. you know where to go. again, i think the objective is to get out there and use your opportunity to make change and vote. you know what i mean? because if you're not happy, it's in your hands. >> mm-hmm. mm-hmm. before i go here on to other election coverage, i guess i got to ask you one music-related question. in your real life, do you ever tell anybody that even if you're not always there when they call, you're always on time? does that ever work in real situations? >> it absolutely does, and let me tell you how it relates to this. i sent in my absentee ballot because i'm not going to be in new york. so i'm always on time. as a matter of fact, i'm early. i voted. >> so not always on time has now become a message for early voting. i like that. i didn't think of that.
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several polls show republicans in trouble even in red states this weekend. in there are concerns even a lead may not be enough if some of the votes against republicans aren't even allowed to count. that's the issue in georgia where the guy overseeing the governor's race is also running to be governor. secretary of state brian kemp could try to depress stacey abrams' vote. he says it's not voter suppression. but tonight the news is it doesn't really matter what he says because he lost. judges have intervened to ensure that many of those people are allowed to vote, noting that differential treatment of minorities in his orders, and with the door open to voting, obama weighing in on this very issue while he was campaigning for abrams. >> if their efforts to take away your right to vote makes you mad, there's only one way to make it right. don't boo. vote. >> joining me is basil smikle,
and a professor from the harvard school of government. professor, what is the significance of the ruling in georgia? >> it's a big deal. the court essentially flipped the script on the entire situation, which is they expanded the enfranchi franchif thousands of people in georgia who have been excluded from the process. so we also know that stacey abrams has made this the centerpiece of her campaign. in addition to local policy, domestic policy issues, stacey abrams has talked a lot about making sure and ensuring that all georgians have the right to vote, because the vote is so important and because it's being taken away. her campaigning, how she's been out on the trail, even, you know, the interaction with celebrities who have hit the ground for her, has been about getting likely voters, unlikely
voters, and first time voters out. >> basil, that's certainly the issue in this race between these two candidates. but we want to give the wider context. this has been brian kemp's thing for a long time. over a million people he's had knocked off the rolls, 1.4 million just since 2012. >> that's right. and you heard former president jimmy carter come out and say that he should resign, which obviously he's not going to do. but this issue has been nationalized. consider that since 2010, 24 states have tightened their rules in terms of voter access. you had dorian warren on earlier. organizations like his and so many others are going to have to hit the ground, not just up until tuesday but after that, leading into 2020, to make sure that not only people know that they're registered to vote but that secretaries of state are doing the right thing about the citizens of their state. i would also point out this. in florida, for example, they have a ballot measure where
voting yes would restore voting rights to over 1.5 million people who were formerly incarcerated. there's a lot at stake here, we saw that in virginia a couple of years ago. there's a sense that people are losing their privilege and power, that's what's at the root of this. >> and leah, that's the ethics and the stakes of it. as a political scientist, i turn to you on the raw politics. could this have a backlash effect and actually increase turnout from some of the affected communities in multiple states? >> so we do know that in times like this, where there has been a clampdown in repression, there is an increase in the number of people determined to get to the polls. so souls to the polls efforts, we saw this in 2012 as well. while that is a good thing, increased turnout,
determination, reaction to being told no, you can't vote, or we're taking away your right to vote, is great. organizing around that is great. institutionalizing so that democracy is protected is great. yet if we look at the long term compounded effects, what we don't want is a system like we're seeing start to develop, particularly after the gutting of the voting rights act a few years ago, what we don't want to develop is a long term system that is intent on limiting the democratic rights of american citizens. and that's exactly what's happening. the other part of this is we've also seen a push from a lot of these civil rights organizations but also from just good state legislatures, really pushing for voting rights that enfranchise more people. we've seen automatic registrations across several states. >> let me get basil in one more time before we go, you've run a state democratic party. what's your magic number democrats will take in the house? >> i think we're plus three,
four. >> 26? >> yes. that's about right. >> you'll say that live on tv even though michael moore said we shouldn't do that? >> yes, because i've never nrpd t -- understood the strategy of undermining your own expectations. >> how about that, shoot for the stars. basil and leah, thanks to both of you. i'll be back on election eve, monday night, 6:00 p.m. eastern on "the beat with ari melber." don't go anywhere, stephanie ruhle will pick up our live extended coverage after a quick break, and after that, lawrence o'donnell in for special coverage, joined by nonother than captain sully and a lot of other political experts. we'll be right back. ahh. where are mom and dad? 'saved money on motorcycle insurance with geico! goin' up the country. love mom and dad' i'm takin' a nap. dude, you just woke up!
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