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i'm david gura. don't forget to vote. i will be back next saturday and sunday from 8:00 to 10:00 a.m. eastern time. the news continues with reich ard louis sk. >> a weekend to be having a show. hello to you. i'm in for jasmine vossoughian. 39 yours before the first polls open for a midterm election like none other. a record 34 million early votes have already been counted. that is a number up to today. that exceeds the nationwide early vote from 2014. it puts democrats with a slight edge over republicans when it comes to control of the house. within the next hour, we're watching for this. president trump and former president obama, they will be on the road. we will go to them when they do begin their speeches.
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>> i can't speak to the blue, but i can speak to the red. there's a lot of energy out there. they want to see border security. they don't want people pouring into our country. they don't want open borders. they don't want to pay for other people's health care. there's a lot of enthusiasm on the republican side. >> but they're not the only big names on the campaign trail for you. celebrities like eva longoria, they're using their star power to try to get voters out to the polls. right now msnbc road warriors are spread out to get the pulse of what's going on. here we go. >> republicans have lost their way. the republican party is a joke as far as i'm concerned. >> having the celebrities come in does not impress me at all. >> get out and vote. we need it. we need it for health care, school, our children, women. get out and vote. >> for me, it's about spirit and
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hope and positive tee more so than the candidate itself. i'm so hopeful for tuesday i cannot wait. >> i wanted to vote and do what i need to do to have my vote count. as to what's going to happen, i don't know. >> we're going to start with the swinging of states, florida, where the race for governor between gillum and desantis is in a statistical tie, 46-46. both candidates holding down to the wire rallies with early voting in the state ending today. desantis is hoping the president's ability to rally the base will bring him in last minute voter there is and gillum bringing out some major hollywood star power in the final hours. nbc mariana has more from florida. >> a big get out the vote effort targeting latinos and puerto ricans especially just wrapped up behind me. this is the heart of the puerto rican community in the sunshine state. the event featured latina
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actresses like eva longoria, gina rodriguez talking to this community in spanish and english and very passionately about the issues that matter most to them. i want to play some sound for you from america and especially from gina rodriguez talking about how hurricane maria responds is really something that is motivating her and her family to go and vote this election. >> what's at stake is plain and simply everything. everything is at stake. i'm here because my grandmother can't be. i'm here because my cousins, 1.2 million puerto ricans came over here after hurricane maria. we need to make sure that our elections officials take care of our island. because nobody else is. because the administration didn't. >> when you talk to puerto
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ricans in this community, the maria responds is one of the issues they care about, but also health care and affordable housing. you have 30 to 50,000 evacuees from puerto rico that permanently moved to florida after hurricane maria and affordable housing is one of the issues that is top of mind when they head to the polls. and on this last day of early voting in florida, and with such competitive races for governor and for senate here, everyone is vying for their vote from both sides of the aisle. >> thank you for that. let's get over to georgia. georgia democrats blasting ryan kemp after he accused democrats ever trying to hack into the state's voting system. that's the latest. kemp, who is in charge of elections as georgia's secretary of state, says his office is now launching an investigation into this matter, although few details were disclosed in his
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statement. democrat stacey abrams responded to that this morning. take a listen. >> this is a desperate attempt on the part of my opponent to distract people from the fact that two different federal judges found him dare lierelict in duties and those being held captive be allowed to vote. he is desperate to turn the conversation away from his failures frr failures, from his refusal to honor his commitments and from the fact he's part of a nationwide voter suppression system. >> you and i were talking yesterday here, beth. who knows what can happen in the following days, you said. here we go. this now coming from the secretary of state who is also running for governor. what's the perception with voters and has there been reporting on this before? >> reporter: you know, this is sort of a remarkable bomb to be
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dropped into the middle of this very, very close race two days before the voters go to the polls for final vote on tuesday. as you said, the secretary of state is also the candidate, the republican gubernatorial candidate ryan temp and he is using the power of his office to launch an investigation into essentially his opponent's campaign. although it's not exactly stacey abrams. it's the whole party around her who is supporting her campaign that is being targeted and that's why she reacted as strongly as she did. he is accusing them of committing cyber crimes. that's a pretty tough thing to say two days before the election. he has also referred this investigation to the department of homeland security in washington and the fbi. again, essentially asking the federal government to investigate democrats in this incredibly tight race that he is actually a part of. so it's a pretty unusual situation, number one, that the candidate would also be the guy who's allowed to monitor the elections, sort of the fox guarding the hen house in this
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case, and the state democratic party has really taken off after this. they issued a very blistering statement. it came from the executive director of the democratic party of georgia. this is yet another example of abuse of power by an unethical secretary of state. to be clear kemp's claims are 100% false. this stunt from kemp is another example of why he cannot be trusted and should not be trusted in an election in which he's also a candidate for governor. tough words there in a very tough fraught environment going into president trump's rally for him later on over in macon, richard. >> with the latest development in the last 24 hours, we'll see how voters respond to that. thank you so much, beth. from georgia we now take you to texas where the latest real clear politics polling average shows incumbent republican ted cruz leading democrat beat to
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o'rourke by 6 1/2 percentage points. nearly five million texans have already cast their ballots. cruz compared republican's voters to o kourk'rourke's supp. >> there are a lot more conservatives than there are liberals. what the o'rourke campaign has had on their side is kpeintensi. the lib raerals in texas are really, really mad. they hate president trump. that anger is dangerous. it means they're going to show up no matter what. >> garret is in austin, texas. >> betobeto o'rourke just finis another rally. austin is going to be critical to any chance o'rourke has to becoming the first democrat texas has had since 1988. it has always been the big blue
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dot in the center of texas. it's the liberal capital of the state. in the last weekend day of the campaign, o'rourke is focusing here on austin and just down the road in san antonio, two of the big cities, heavy latino populations a i little bit more democratic leaning. ted cruz will be up the road in the dallas suburbs, part of the dfw metro plex. he's going to be focusing on turning out conservative voter there is. texas is a huge state, i don't have to tell you, and these candidates have hit every corner of it. in the race's final day, they're focused on those mega cities from which maybe 2/3 of the vote in texas will ultimately come. looking ahead to tomorrow expect to see both counties in house ton. harris county houston the big f biggest prize. the bottom line as we come down to the final hours, it is math
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verizon moment versus mum. ted cruz has the big republican numbers in the state of texas on his side, but he cannot compete with the energy level that beto o'rourke has created. if o'rourke can do what he says he can do and turnout a new coalition of younger voters and spanish voters who don't typically come to the polls, he could be that democratic senator in texas. we are in an absolute sprint to the finish to see how this one goes. >> garret, thank you so much for that. nevada now. voter enthusiasm is also the story line there. the number of people who have voted early, more than double the 2014 midterms so far. a race that we will be watching closely on election night is in nevada's third congressional district. republican danny tarkanian who has president trump's endorsement is facing susie lee.
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steve patterson is at tarkanian headquarters. steve, good speaking with you. tell us what's happening. >> reporter: richard, it's a very busy day for getting out to vote here. this is tarkanian's headquarters. you can see people working the phones. in a few minutes they'll be out hitting the street. this is a very interesting race, because it's kind of an inverse from what we've seen in the senate race we've been telling you about where democrats think they have a huge opportunity to pick up a seat there. here the gop is focused on picking up a seat. remember, this is jackie rosen's seat. she is the democrat running for senate, so she has to vacate her seat in order to do that. the gop playing offense in this race. we have richard hernandez, communications for the campaign. we've seen in so many congressional district, especially suburban districts. maybe the public distancing themselves from the president. here it seems to be more of a wholesale embrace. how big of a role is the president in this race and is that a role strategy?
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>> all nevadana would agree the accomplishments of the america first agenda have been historic. i think that's going to be the message really resonating and on the voter's minds when they go to the polls on tuesday. we're really pushing them to get out to the polls, because anyone who believes in the america first agenda, anyone who has benefited from the tax cut, who has benefited from the increase in jobs, the low unemployment rates need to get to the polls and they need to vote for republican. >> i'm hearing economy, economy, economy, jobs, jobs, jobs. you were talking about the polling. early voting has been through the roof, but the last few days, the last day there was a big surge for democrats. are you worried a little bit going into the general? >> that's typical for democrats on the final day. they turnout their people. we see that time and time again during the early vote period, but we know that the republicans will turnout on tuesday and independents will turnout on tuesday. that's our best day for election day. it's their job to get to the polls. we're trying to make it happen with all of our fantastic
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volunteers and interns. they're on the ground and the voters need to get to the polls. >> the candidate himself is going to be canvassing in just about an hour or so. we'll be there following him around. it's a big day for getting out to vote these last few days heading out to the election. >> good to be on the ground. i'm jealous of you there in that swing state. the two numbers you're going to hear everyone talking about tuesday night, that's 23, first off. democrats will need to pick up 23 seats in the house. if they get that, as you well know, they will win control of the house. the second big number, well, number two. democrats will need a net gain of two seats to take control of the senate. of course, the battleground there is difficult for democrats who are having to defend so many seats this election. national political correspondent steve cor nabbinacki is at the board. >> these are all the senate races that are up.
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we'll start getting clues pretty early on election night about what kind of night this might be. at 6:00 eastern time, set your alarm. hope you're watching all day. 6:00 eastern we're going to get our very first vote in a battleground senate race. indiana, the polls close very early in much of indiana. we're going to start getting numbers in indiana right around 6:00. joe donnelly trying to hold off his republican challenge in a state donald trump won by 20 points. of course, the vice president mike pence's home state as well. between 6:00, 7:00, there is a fair amount of early vote i think in indiana, so we may start to get a sense how is donnelly holding up in this red state. that could be an omen for democrats. then an hour later, 7:00 eastern, a lot of florida, not all of it, but a lot of florida closes. of course, in florida you're going to have the key senate race there. obviously can bill nelson hang
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on in a state trump carried by two points. and the closely watched governor's race, we'll start to get a read out at 7:00 there. that's the senate side. of course, we mentioned the house. this where most of the action is going to be at least early on, that question of can democrats get the net gain of 23 seats? get used to looking at this, because we're going to be showing you a lot of this on tuesday night. what the heck are we looking at? here's the country. there are 435 congressional districts. not all of them are competitive. most of them are not. most of them we already pretty much know which party is going to win. what you see in yellow, this is where we think the action is. this is where we think control of the house is pretty much going to be decided. what you see right here are close to 70 districts that are held by republicans where r republicans are on defense, where democrats have a chance of takeover. these are the districts and you're going to watch all night. if the democrats win, it turns
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blue. you can see it right there. if the republicans win, it will turn red. the magic number will adjust with that. the democratic magic number, can they get it down to zero and where does the action start on the house side? let me reset these. at 6:00 in the state of kentucky polls will close. polls will close in this distri district. ma mcgrath against barr. this is lexington kentucky. this is going to give us a clue early in the night perhaps what kind of night it's going to be on the house side. are the democrats overperforming? is mcgrath making suburbs in the rural areas? we may get a sense there. at 7:00, again, 7:00 eastern time, look all these competitive districts here in virginia. look at all these competitive districts in here in florida. we're going to get poll closings in these places. i think we're really going to
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start to get a sense early on, hey, are we seeing a big blue wave form, are we seeing surprise republican resilience? are we seeing something expenseful where we may have to go district by district, hour by hour to see if democrats can just get did across the finish line or republicans can hold them off. there are to many possibilities. we have been talking about them for months. we do not we do not know what the plot twists are going to be the american people are offering them right now as they vote in early voting and as they head to the polls tuesday. tuesday night we will see what the story is. this board, we are ready to pivot whatever the story reveals itself. we're on it. >> tuesday night there's one reason to show up. by the wary, our election night team has a special hour o. they will be live tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on
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msnbc. steve at the big board. still ahead for you, 34 million. that's the number just in to us here at msnbc. we're going to dig through the numbers to see what a record tu turnout among early voters will mean in the fight to control congress. plus a new nbc "wall street journal" poll to show as well. that shows which party has the momentum right now with just two days to go before election day. you've tried moisturizer after moisturizer
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we have a new nbc "wall street journal" poll showing voter sentiment on the side of the democrats heading into tuesday's midterms. 50% of likely voters say they prefer a democratic controlled congress. 43% prefer republicans. now, when the poll included all registered voters, democrats and the republicans, 49% to 43%. as for president trump's job approval rating, 46% say yeah, i approve. 52% say i disapprove. that's roughly the same as a month ago. bring in the guy who's behind a lot of this stuff that we put together when it comes to numbers, mark murray, nbc news senior political editor. also jolena maxwell. and an msnbc political analyst. we also have john weaver, former
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senior strategist and an msnbc contributor. mark, let's start with you, because you just put out all of the numbers today for us. when we look at not only what i was discussing, there is the breakdown of those who do prefer democrats controlling congress. i'll just do that very quickly. likely african-american voters, 84%. latinos, 57%. white women with college degrees, 61%. independents are kind of going heck, i don't know what to do this time. >> most of the parts of the democratic coalition are fired up. and our pollster republican half of the poll said republicans have made gains over the last few months. when you look at this democratic coalition, he said you might want to put your thumb on the scale for the democratic side. the republican, while they are fired up, it's not as much. you look at enthusiasm among latinos, among independents, and then also looking at millennials and those places, at least when
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it comes to a midterm election are almost at president level. >> that's going to be interesting. many presidential election as chuck todd, our good friend, was saying today on "meet the press". another breakdown preferring republicans-controlled congress. white men without college degree, 65%. white women without college degree, 54%. white voters overall, 50%. this may or may not fit into what we have looked at leading into this election. >> when you look at those numbers and you look at donald trump's rhetoric, you see why he's starting to -- ending this campaign going and talking about immigration. it's plain to the racist in the extreme part of his base. in a really -- it's a dangerous thing to do as well, but if he felt he had a good message to close on, he probably would be using that, like tax cuts or some other achievement he had accomplished. he's not doing that.
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it's clear and it aligns with the fact that most of the people who have high approvals of him are white americans and older. >> the interesting thing, john, as we take a look at the high level of interest in the midterms generally as all three of you know so well, generally lower than presidential levels, but we look at democrats and republicans, the numbers here coming out of the poll, 85% for democrats, 82% in terms of high level interest in the midterms, in terms of likely voters. it's hard to split this baby. >> it is. but i think the energy is clearly on the center left side nationally. it changes race by race. i agree with mark. you'd have to put your thumb on the scale of this being in favor of the democrats both in the house and the senate and all these gub na ternatorial races. >> we are seeing some of the big hitters on the campaign trail. we at least acknowledge they're out there. i'm just hearing former
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president barack obama is in chicago in front of a friendly crowd. this might be said to be a play right out of president trump's playbook, which is to go where people love you. so then when we do see these pictures, it looks good. how is this helping in terms of seeing president obama out there you think, john? he's been very strong. >> it's very unusual to have a former president, to begin with, so it's very striking. he's very popular within the base. it's important to turnout votes. i will say about trump's behavior, i think he's broadened the pool of potential seats with the democrats to pick up in the house because he's doubled down on immigration in the way that he has. >> mark, i was looking at your writing today and i was looking at 2010 versus 2018. they're almost parallel to 2010 except this time favoring democrats. we had 63 pickups for the republicans in 2010. are you going to see something
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similar in th tithis time aroun? >> going race by race is tough. what is clear is we have six in ten reg stored voters who believe they want change in the way trump has actually handled his presidency. and so this does seem to be shaping up like a change election. but in the president's favor, the situation where people do like their economic situation. we had 68% of voter have satisfaction in the economy. people wanting change from how the president is handling himself. the economy is doing pretty well. tell me how those forces end up playing out in these races by race. that's going to decide election day. >> 2010 is more surprise certainly in this space. what's your number? >> i think it's going to be around 40 and i think those white suburban moms who don't want to see the kids in cages are going to turnout for democrats. >> i think it's going to be close to 50 for the democrats. >> 20 on the low end to about 40, 45, richard.
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there are a lot of important races to watch all across the country if you're trying to get a sense of what's going to happen in the midterms. keep a close eye on colorado's sixth congressional district. there mike kaufman is facing democrat jason crow in a district that hillary clinton won by nine points. the district in the denver suburbs has grown more democratic over the years, but coffman has continued to win there. we spoke to voters about what mattered to them most there. >> a suspicious package has been found at the clinton's home in new york. >> this is the rocky mountain west. last week as the country was ripped by fear, we went on a
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mile high search for what matters to voters here. we're heading east through the o outskirts of the city and into the heart of the congressional district where this might be decided. people are voting early. >> in colorado, everyone votes by mail. part of the reason turnout is so high here. but some people drop off their ballots at a place like this, too. we decided to hang out to see what we could find. are you coming to drop your ballot off? >> yeah. >> i've been waiting. >> what do you want to change the most? >> well, the presidency, but of course it's not time for that. >> what's the thing here in tha matters most to you. >> getting involved in the violence that's going on in other city. >> do you think the democrats have a shot? >> we believe in our congressman. president trump, the way he's coming out, we believe in what he stands for, what he's done
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for us. >> i don't know what you're doing here. >> why we came? >> yeah. >> because the democrats have a chance of changing this district. do you think they have a shot? >> this election is really important just to make a shift. >> the sixth district could shift because of its dem gafr demographics. we headed to a part that's called the mile high united nations. they think this district might flip because of the diversity. we've got chinese businesses, thai businesses, korean businesses and a vietnamese business. ee ethiopians make up the second largest minority group here. >> this is an area that voted for democrats for president, but a republican for congress. why do you think that is? >> the congressman, mike
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coffman, he really cares about ee ethiopians, especially when it comes to human rights. >> right next to his market, he operates a restaurant. >> is this lunch or dinner? >> it's my wife's birthday. >> happy birthday. are you going to vote in this election? >> yes. this round we wanted to go with the democrats. i really thought republicademocd make it affordable with health care. >> when you think about going to the polls, do you think about trump? >> all the time. >> if there's anyplace that might not be influenced is the south. we headed to a church in centennial. you look like you need help with that. can i help you out? >> my son would like these. >> you have this congressional term coming up, right? >> i served two terms on the city council. >> so i'm meeting an elected official. what do you think will help this
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year? i think it's up for grabs. it's trump and the republican party mantra before the citizens of this house district. >> what are the local issues that matter most to people here? >> one of them is health care. >> you're saying the same thing an ethiopian family said to me in aurora yesterday. >> yes. it really matters. in 2016 you voted for hillary clinton for president and then mike coffman for president. >> he hasn't been one to hold trump's feet to the fire. we need a change. we need a change. we need balance. >> thank you so much. msnbc's road warrior giving us the latest there on that bellwether race. it's a tale of two presidents right now. live pictures here from macon georgia where president trump expected to speak very, very soon. thaet that's on your right-hand side. and take you to gary indiana where former president obama is
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addressing supporters at the moment, also losing a bit of his voice as we've seen so far. let's listen in. >> so now they've had two years of total control in washington. what have they done with that power? no, it's not true they haven't done nothing. they've done something. they promised they were going to take on corruption in washington. instead, they've racked up enough indictments to field a football team. nobody in my administration got indicted. which by the way is not that high a bar. they pledged to fight for the little guy. do you remember that? so what do they do instead? they dole out $1.5 trillion in
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tax cuts aimed at billionaires and corporations. don't move. vote. they can't hear you, but they sure can hear your vote, indiana. so they cut taxes, 1 $1.5 trillion. didn't even pretend to pay for them. and our deficits, of course, shot up. that's what happens, right? you spend a whole bunch of money and then suddenly you're in debt. now, keep in mind that when we were in the midst of recession, terrible crisis, folks out of work, folks losing their homes, folks lose their pensions, when we were spending money to lift the economy back up and clean up after the mess they had left,
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they said no, no, no, you can't spend money helping teachers. you can't spend money helping working folks. you can't spend money sitting up early childhood education programs to give kids a good start because that will blowup the deficit. that would be terrible. we can't do that. that would be fiscally irresponsible. but when it came to giving some tax cuts to folks who didn't need them, weren't even asking for them, suddenly, deficits, that's not a problem. but it gets worse, because now that they've gotten the tax cuts out, now that they gave away all that money to folks who didn't need it, like me, by the way.
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it worked out good for me. now that that's happened, suddenly you've got the republican leader in congress, mitch mcconnell, who's saying well, you know, i'm very disturbed by these deficits. to bring the deficits down, we're going to have to cut programs like medicare and medicaid and social security. don't boo. vote. >> president obama there, former president of the united states, in gary indiana, one of the key races. he's alluding to the senate, joe donnelly against republican businessman mike braw businessman mike braun. he's trying to make a difference right now. so is the state democratic party by bringing out the big guns. also big guns in macon georgia. we're watching for that. president trump will be out there. of course the key gubernatorial race happening in the state of georgia that we've been watching.
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a lot of the energy right now pointing at the president, shall we say. we also have some brand new numbers to share with you. in to msnbc and nbc news on the very large number of people who have voted early in this year's midterm elections including there in gary indiana. according to target mart, almost 35 million ballots have already been cast. those numbers fresh into us today. that number is expected to edge toward 40 million more than the 2013 total as early voting continues today in 13 states. as we look at this, the question might be who the voters are. joining us now, the ceo of target smart, we should nbc has a data sharing graem wiagreemen target smart. thanks for being with us. we've been hanging on all the data you've been able to bring to us. when you've seen just the change in the last 24 hours in the information you've given us, what does that tell you? we're up to 35 million, close to
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it, right? >> yeah, richard. thanks for having me on. that's right. we've passed the 35 million mark. as you said, we're headed north of 40 million. that's a record in this country for a midterm election. it's actually giving close to almost 47 million that voted in the presidential year in 2016. so it's almost unprecedented. it tells us a lot and doesn't tell us a lot. it's important to learn lessons from 2016 and not read too much in. with that many people voting, we know a lot about election day and what it will look like. but we also have to keep in mind that there may be another 60 million votes or more that will be cast on tuesday. but certainly looking at the early vote that we've seen thus far and the surge that you talked about over the last couple of days, we're seeing a huge surge among younger voters. >> what percentage points?
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>> so they're increasing now by a margin of -- this is a stat that honestly blows my mind. in the 2014 election, seniors outnumbered younger voters by a 9-1 margin. that's coming down to 5-1. you're seeing a real narrowing of the gap. you're also seeing a big surge with latino voter, african-american voters and women and seeing a lot of first time voters ler the elector a the -- electorate. it's really unprecedented. >> democrat or republican you're seeing more of a relevant change? >> when we look at the surge and we talk about younger voters and african-american and latino voters, women, these are voters who have tended to support democratic candidates, especially you look at the gender gap in this election and the polling you've been talking
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about, especially among more suburban women, these are voters who maybe once were swing voters who now more solidly democratic. i mean, the early vote in general, and you look at the partisan models and you've looked at some of those. you've talked about texas. those numbers can be a little bit misleading. those talk about generic party i.d. and how people are likely to identify. keep in mind, we've seen a big swing, especially when we're talking about some of these emerging competitive races like in texas and georgia. >> tom, quickly, i've only got one minute. i apologize. where are the independents? they're not looking good in our latest nbc "wall street journal" poll. are they sitting out? are they part of this surge you're seeing in early voting? >> independents in general, they don't tend to vote as heavily in midterm elections. you're seeing an inkrocrease ov 2014, but they're not going to be at the level that core partisans turnout.
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the trend we're seeing that democrats will like and independents, it's among the younger voters. they're more likely to identify as independents but likely -- >> i was looking at tennessee and florida and texas. what which ones jump snout. >> those are the big ones. massive increases. when you look at the polling there, that poll is looking at what they think turn outis going to be like. at this point no one know. >> i would love to be the fly on the wall in our office. you're getting all the early information. appreciate all you're doing for us. thank you. >> thanks for having me on. two presidents with to different pitches as we've been talking about. president obama right now live on the left. we expect president trump in georgia after the break. a look at how their messaging are resonating or not with voters. we'll talk about how toxic this midterm cycle has also been. >> tech: at safelite autoglass, we really pride ourselves on making it easy
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i had to get a broom and a mop and we had to clean it up. and we got the economy brewing again. covered another 20 million folks with health care. cut the deficits by more than half. made sure the wealthiest paid their fair share of taxes. >> president obama moments ago in gary indiana campaigning for democrats in indiana as i was saying. later he's going to hold another rally. he's going to head the other way to chicago. president trump is about to speak in macon, georgia. we're watching on the left-hand side of your screen. both delivering their closing arguments in this highly charged election cycle. joining me now, michael and michelle. michelle, let's start with you on this. president obama on the trail,
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losing his voice over the last several days, but really exciting the base. late in the game, though. why didn't he start earlier, one might ask? >> i don't know. i think that he has two competing imperatives. on the one hand, there is this informal tabu against presidents campaigning and we are at this point and it's sort of all hands on deck if we're going to safe the country. >> does this work then, allen, as you've been reporting on this very story, we're looking at, again, president obama in gary indiana, macon georgia, two states that are very important in this election. are they resonating for the base? or resonating for independents, which is the key swing vote? >> indiana president obama is speaking in a democratic hot bed. this is an area where senator donnelly is going to have to get a lot of votes to win on wednesday. we see president obama campaigning for some of the candidates like florida and
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gubernatorial candidate. he is involving himself in some of the tightest races and he is trying to turnout that base democratic support to compete with the president's message, which is all republican based support all the time. >> how does this work here, michael, when you look at both of these presidents in friendly spaces, big crowds, a lot of cheering? it definitely televises well and, therefore, does it resonate with those bases that aren't quite as energetic? again, going back to the swing voters. >> well, i think that obama in particular probably does appeal to some swing voters in a way that trump does not. obama left office, remember, at around 55% approval rating, maybe even 57%. he was very popular. that means not only democrats liked him, but a substantial majority of independents liked him as well. i think for a lot of average folks who aren't terribly
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political, they may look at him and see gee, you know, there was a president that i could be proud of. and so i think he may make some inroads into that kind of vote whereas trump is purely, purely about pumping up the base. >> michelle, you originally wrote in "the new york times" about the georgia governor's race. i just want to read a little bit of it. you were saying it is a chance to rebuke white nationalism. america is tearing itself apart as an embittered white conservative minority clings to power paranoid about being swapped by a multi-racial majority. >> we now know trump's theory of the case. trump's theory is that people voted for him because of racial resentment and racial anxiety. trump theory is that his base is scared, that they are racist and
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that they're kind of dumb. nobody treats trump base, whatever we think about hillary clinton's comment about deplorables, nobody treats these voters with more contempt than the president. he believes they're going to be scared of a nonexistent threat, this caravan mondays of miles away slowly walking to the border where they'll turn themselves in and ask for asylum. he believes he can make his base terrified enough they will turnout for him, and that's what he thinks of the electorate. >> president obama's message, president trump is a bad hombre. >> he's focussing on pre-existing conditions, and republicans are trying to repeal it. on trump and the caravan, he's saying look, they're trying to scare you into voting for them. the republicans aren't being entirely truthful with you is what obama is saying. that's what he's going to drive home in the closing days. >> you wrote in "the daily beast" the 2018 midterms is the most racist dishonest on the
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republican side. 30 seconds. >> well, dishonest in terms of health care and so many republican candidates saying that they love coverage for pre-existing conditions when a lot of them are on a lawsuit that is against that. and then the racist part is trump and michelle summarized that very well. people are still 750 miles away. >> great. thank you all three. tough always being the last block. we'll be talking to you no doubt a lot right here on msnbc because this is your midterm election headquarters. for instance, tonight at 7:00, make sure to watch casey dc midterm election special. and we provide a one hour live look at the midterms. brian williams, rachel maddow and the whole team for what you need to know before you cast your vote. with only a kite, a house key and a wet hemp string, benjamin franklin captured lightening in a bottle. over 260 years later, with a little resourcefulness,
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. that does it for us this hour. i'm richard lui. you can follow me on book and twitter. let me know what you think. the news continues with aymen. >> there's not a lot to talk about. >> is there something happening in the next two days? >> not that i know of. thanks very much, richard. right now duelling presidents, donald trump and barack obama holding duelling hours -- holding duelling town halls this hour. the current president in macon
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georgia, specking to see him any moment there on your screen. his predecessor in gary indiana. the two men offering very different versions of america and where america may be headed depending on what happens on tuesday. the stakes couldn't be higher and the numbers are getting tighter. a brand new nbc poll showing democrats holding a seven point lead among likely voters, but will that be enough to flip at least one chamber of congress, let alone both the house and the senate. we sent our road warriors across the country to find out. let's get to it now and go to georgia white house correspondent jeff bennett is at that trump rally for us in macon. beth is in decatur, georgia. we'll start with the rally where jeff is. give us a sense of what the closing argument is going to be from president trump when he takes the stage there in a minute. >> >> reporter: president trump is barn storming trump country now through monday night in support of republican candidates

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