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certainly none more than any facing her brother, call this sentiment. but this vote tomorrow is about sentiment. do you like the way things are going with trump or not? do you feel like cheering on his gros claim of entitlement to mock and disparage women? or do you want to sing out with a higher sentiment in that booth tomorrow, that god created women worthy of all our respect, all of it? that's "hardball" for now. all in with chris hayes starts right now. /s >> good evening from dallas texas on the eve of this truly historic election day. i am chris hayes with special coverage tonight. we have correspondents across the country, rehema ellis on the bitterly fought good to be na f -- gubernatorial race in
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georgia. and joy reid joins us from florida with the latest in that state and beyond. steve kornacki is moments away at the big board with the races to watch as democrats try to flip congress blue and cornell belcher and tom have been pouring through the data and historic voting. congresswoman maxine waters to respond to trump's toxic closing strategy. rebecca tracer on the mobilization of women and what we're going to see tomorrow. and later michael moore on why nobody has an excuse not to vote, especially this year. we have quite simply never seen a midterm election like this one, one in which in the words of president barack obama the very character of our nation is on the ballot. the early vote data is staggering. more than 35 million people have already voted. in some states including right here in texas, there have already been more early votes cast than were cast in the last midterms overall. that includes election day. across the country, organizers say they have never seen levels of enthusiasm like this. there's a good chance that someone you know, maybe someone who wasn't even particularly
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politically engaged in the past this weekend, canvassing in an unfamiliar neighborhood in a last-ditch effort to get out every last vote. we don't know, let's be clear, how all this energy will translate to election results. that said, it sure does seem to have republicans a little spooked. the president's closing strategy of fear mongering has reached racist levels including ads on the major news channels, a transparent attempt on twitter to keep democratic voters away from the polls. in georgia it's getting ugly, or i should say uglier. after racist robocalls attacking democrat stacey abrams, the woman trying to become the nation's first black female governor, the secretary of state -- she is now facing baseless charges from her opponent, the current secretary of state brian kemp, who is facing criticism for his own efforts at voter suppression. kemp has now announced what appears to be a sham hacking investigation of state democrats. >> this is a desperate attempt
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by brian kemp to, once again, cover up his bad actions and his abuse of power. he's abusing his power and he's not fit to be the next leader of the state of georgia. >> and so we begin in atlanta, georgia, where correspondent rehema ellis is covering the abrams/kemp race. it has been a close one, bitterly fought. you have the man who is overseeing the state's election apparatus running that race. what does it look like there from the ground? >> here on the ground at the stacey abrams location, we've got people who are working for a campaign and they're conducting -- not robocalls, they're conducting calls to prospective voters of stacey abrams. they've been doing it all day and they say they're going to do it all tomorrow as well. they are also upset over the allegations coming from the secretary of state's office that you pointed out, these allegations that there might be hacking in some way. they say that what's most important here is that people remember that they have to get out and vote. but, you know, this thing really
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does depend on who you talk to, chris. because when we talked to some people who are democratic voters, they believe that this is just a distraction, an opportunity for the the state -- brian kemp's office to keep them away from the polls to, make them afraid. when we talk to kemp supporters, they say there is nothing to this except that they think that, than there is nothing to it. the republican voters think that indeed there might be something to it, otherwise kemp would not have alleged it in the first place. so this is -- it's a very close race. you talk about the fact that there is a really strong early voting in this state. and one woman i talked to today said she's a staunch republican. she said she's afraid. it is a republican state. some are afraid it could turn blue. >> rehema ellis, thank you. let's go back to texas where garrett haake is live in el paso where beto o'rourke is about to
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give his last rally of the campaign. garrett, you've been covering this campaign closely. there was a sense i think they had run out of gas a little bit a few weeks ago. there was a sort of rising sense from the cruz folks they had this in the bag. what's the mood now? >> yeah, republicans were very confident at the start of early voting here and really through the first week of early voting. then republicans i've talked to have seen that confidence tail off here a little bit. and the o'rourke campaign has gotten another surge of energy as they have been traveling around the state holding these big rallies. first in far flung places across the state like amarillo, lubbock you can, home of texas tech. the last few cities where they need to run up the score, in austin, houston, san antonio, el paso, o'rourke's hometown. the thing i've been trying to square since we've been down here, if you look at the polling in this race, every poll has favored ted cruz. in some place by a wide margin. it doesn't square with the enthusiasm i've seen. i've covered both candidates at
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their rallies and at their events, and there really does seem to be something around the o'rourke campaign with younger, more diverse folks coming out, being extremely fired up, sort of old school texas democrats telling me they've never felt anything like this in their lifetime. the o'rourke campaign has to prove a concept that they really can't prove until election day, which is that they have been able to put together a new coalition of texas voters, because all the old ways of trying it have not worked. the early vote has been enthusiastic. it's been a huge number. i know you're going to talk about that later. the o'rourke campaign sees a lot of signs of hope in that. they could run the most competitive election in texas in the last 2r5 years, and still lose by half a million votes. the math here is incredibly difficult. but the energy level here on the ground is undeniable. and i think when we wake up tomorrow morning, if we see lines around the block at some of these polling places, in some of these big cities in texas or the valley where there's a million voters who have never really been fully activated, 80% of them hispanic, we could be
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looking at an upset here. again, it is an unprovable, unknowable thing this coalition, beto o'rourke is betting on that exists even tomorrow. >> trying to solve the texas voting rubik's cube unsuccessfully and beto taking a different run. garrett haake, thank you very much. msnbc national political correspondent steve kornacki has been covering the big picture from day one and he joins me now. steve, what are you looking at as we head into tomorrow? >> i think the question here, when are we going to get some early signals tomorrow night about how this is shaping up. the answer is 6:00 p.m. polls are going to start to close in indiana. most of that state, of course, indiana home to one of the most pivotal senate races out there. joe donnelly democrat, trying to defend his seat in a state trump won by 20 points. a lot of early voting in indiana. i think in the 6:00 to 7:00 hour, we're going to get a sense right away of how donnelly is holding up. of course, the better donnelly is doing, the better that could
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portend for democrats nationally. on the house side, of course, where democrats are trying to get that net gain of 23 seats that would flip the house, again, 6:00 is the hour. the district to check out, first of all, is the 6th district of kentucky. this is the lexington area, university of kentucky. republican-held seat, trump won it by double digits. amy mcgrath challenging andy barr. again, a couple things that are going to be tested here. this is a battle ground district. lexington is about 40% of the population here. is there democratic energy? is there surge democratic energy in a college town with a lot of sort of white collar professionals, that constituency we've been talking about, young voters we've seen activating this campaign? the rural voters, trump country, places trump won with 65, 70% of the vote. is the republican enthusiasm on par there, or is it down a little? and have democrats made inroads into trump country? so, a read out there in the 6th
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district of kentucky in the first hour, 7:00, an hour later, things get very competitive very quickly. the state of virginia, the polls close there. there are four districts in virginia. republican districts where democrats are trying to flip. here's one to keep an eye on right away. this is the suburbs of richmond. they anchor this district. dave bratt took out eric cantor years ago. the suburbs, if they are there for the democrats, that would portend big things for them not just in virginia, but nationally. it's not just in the 7th district. how about right next door? here's another one to watch. we'll get early numbers. the 5th district. you know what the anchor of the fifth district is? charlottesville. charlottesville is sort of the center of this district right here. this is a republican district. the democrats have targeted. the polling has been close here. corey stewart, the republican senate candidate at the top of that ticket, is he a drag for republicans? is there some kind of charlottesville effect? this district will be an interesting one to keep an eye on.
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again, i think we can get a sense fairly early based on virginia and also florida closing at 7:00. if democrats start flipping seats in virginia, start flipping seats in florida, that could mean they're going to go well over 23. one other i tell you to keep an eye on, we talk so much about the georgia governor's race. if stacey abrams delivers on the promise of her campaign, new voters, it could have a ripple effect in the house. rob wood all, this is a place traditionally very republican, but it came down to mitt romney won this thing over 20 points. trump only won it by 6. woodall is in trouble if you have surge turnout. democrats are talking about -- think of this, gwinnett county. it flipped to hillary clinton, gwinnett county, in 2016. the population is exploding. it is diversifying rapidly. if stacey abrams delivers, i think you'll see it in gwinnett county.
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there could be a ripple effect that could put this republican seat in jeopardy on the house side. >> steve, those are great things to watch. thank you very much for that. there are the two big rations going on in florida. our own joy reid is in tallahassee for more on what's happening in the closing hours there. joy, welcome. joy, there is a really interesting relationship between andrew gillum running for governor at the top of that ticket and bill nelson. it really feels like the newcomer andrew gillum has been pulling up bill nelson in the polling. they've been polling the same. you talk to people from florida, it seems like the energy is gillum is sort of lifting up nelson. what do you think of that? >> yeah, i mean, if you believe the polling down here, gillum has been consistently leading desantis, his republican opponent, whereas bill nelson has kind of flip-flopped with the current governor rick scott and was behind for quite a bit of time, even when gillum was ahead above the margin of error. so what you're seeing now is that the momentum for gillum is actually starting to drag bill nelson forward to the point where bill nelson is actually leading in some polls outside
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the margin of error. just when you talk to people just on the ground, we were in south florida yesterday, we were in fort lauderdale. people talk about gillum. there is not a lot of proactive talk about nelson. but what people are saying is they'll vote the slate. people are excited about voting for andrew gillum and willing to vote democratic down the ticket. and ironically enough, down the ticket means the united states senator. >> right. what do you think, as we head into tomorrow, what is your thinking about how to think about what's going to happen tomorrow? >> you know, there are a lot of x factors in florida. it is an eight-page ballot, eight pages. florida is notorious for these lengthy wordy amendments. there is one significant to progressive amendment 4, which would restore voting rights to millions of people who served their time for felonies. that's the one that african-american activist, civil rights groups are focusing on and wanting people to laser focus on. there are other convoluted ballot issues in that ballot as
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well. there is concern the size of the ballot discourage down ticket voting. there are competitive state senate and state house races as well and so what democrats are hoping is that the enthusiasm for gillum -- and i'm here in his home city in tallahassee right now -- that the enthusiasm will encourage people to stay with the ballot. i know that, you know, during the obama campaign in 2008, that line was moving. it was another long ballot and people didn't necessarily vote down after they voted for obama. what democrats are hoping is that people don't do that. but we have seen -- i have to tell you, the excitement is real i. there is an excitement that is on par with what i saw for stacey abrams in georgia and for what you're seeing for beto o'rourke. if that holds, bill nelson has first call that night, election night tomorrow night should be to andrew gillum to thank him. >> in texas, stacy and gillum is doing their own way.
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in florida there hasn't been a democratic governor in over two decades if i'm not mistaken. georgia it's been a while. in texas it's been 20 years. they're all trying to come up with math that works. they're taking approaches, not doing what democrats have traditionally done to win stayed weight in those places. >> absolutely. if you look at the history of the way democrats have nominated a gubernatorial kabd datd, they've gone with alex sync, the safe centrist candidate they think they can sell in the northern part of the state. you have to understand florida is not one state, it's five states. there is a midwestern part, a very southern, very sort of alabama-esque part of it, rural parts. there is south florida which is different from the rest of the state toenlly, politically, every other way. democrats have tended to play for the center of the state, the i-4 corridor. the largest is tampa and they have zeroed on tampa and
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moderate. somebody they think they will cross over and vote for. what andrew gillum has done, which confounded democrats in the primary, because he was running against one candidate, the daughter of the former governor of the state, bob graham, gwen graham, he confounded that. he's running as a progressive, openly as a proet gres i have, he's running against the nra. he's been to court with the nra. nobody fights the nra. they follow the lead of the governor of florida, he is not afraid of her at all. not afraid of the nra. stood with the parkland kids. what he's doing is beto is doing and stacy is doing. they are younger candidates, they are dynamic speakers. they are drawing big crowds. they are standing with young voters. they are going to nontraditional places. they're going to rural parts of the state that don't normally get a lot of attention. they are running as their authentic progressive selves. as it turns out ironically enough, that works. people actually like an authentic candidate. i talked to republicans who don't agree with andrew gillum
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on policy, but they like him, the way he would govern the state and bring people together. >> i think gillum is probably the most strongly positioned of the three candidates we're talking about to win. they're all very competitive. it's not like democrats have been fielding tons of competitive statewide candidates for governor of florida or democrats in georgia or texas. joy reid, we'll talk more tomorrow. i can't wait. >> yep. thank you. >> all right. for more on what we already know about what could happen tomorrow based on early voting and more let's bring in democratic strategist tom, msnbc political analyst cornell belcher. tom, i'll start with you. you've been giving regular updates combining the modelling you guys have and the early votes. what are the sort of broad conclusions you're drawing from that data? >> well, you know, i mean, the first is the obvious, that we're headed towards record breaking -- we've already broken records for midterm election in
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terms of people voting bunch election day as you mention. 35 million, when all those votes are counted, it will likely be north of 40 million votes. if those trends hold out, it will not only be a record for early vote, but in terms of the youngest, most diverse electorates we've seen in a midterm election. we're seeing massive surges, especially from dwruyounger vot under 29, in rates we've seen in elections. they're coming out very high rates. african-american voters, latino voters, women. it's really quite striking. >> cornell, you know, we've talked, you and i have talked on the air about this, the fact the midterm electorates tend to be older, white conservative in presidential years. a democratic strategist has to be music to your ears. is there caution there? what is your thinking? >> there is some caution there, but i want to tie this
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conversation back up with the conversation you just had with joy. you know, beto, stacy and gillum, mayor gillum, they are part of the obama continuum, right? and to a certain extent, part of the dino bama continuum, -- dean obama continuum. joy was spot on. we've seen establishment democrats trying to run races where they try to win over republican voters. last time in georgia, we lost by 200,000 votes trying to do that. this time around it is very much the obama continuum. how can we expand the electorate. to tom's point, bringing in younger voters, bringing in more diverse electorate. that was our key to victory for obama. somehow that has gotten lost in the midterms. what you see with the candidates, i put them squarely in the obama continuum. the idea we're not going to try to win over all the republican voters, but expand the electoral
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and bring more of our voters into the process which is very different strategically. >> to that point, tom, your people invoke this a lot. it's easy to say we expand the electorate. it's hard to turn nonvoters into voters, infrequent voters into voters. are you cannibalizing election date vote or do you see a place like georgia or texas where you're getting new voters? what do we know in terms of that? >> you know, that's a big lesson learned from 2016. in 2016 you saw democrats getting quite excited about the early vote and showing really strong numbers for hillary clinton. in the end it turned out that a lot of that early vote absolutely was just cannibalized. election day things swung more republicans. that's what we've been paying closer attention to as we've looked at the early vote through today and those 35 plus million
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votes. what is striking is the number of new voters coming out, we're talking about millions of new voters. where you are in texas, we're talking about half a million people who voted in texas who have never voted in any election before. you don't see that sort of thing happen in a midterm election. you're seeing the same thing happen in georgia, in florida, in nevada, in arizona. it's really unprecedented. >> and, cornell, that to me is the big -- the reason there is so much suspense about tomorrow night and i think the range of outcomes is so wide. we don't know who those people are. we don't know what that electorate is going to look like. there's a lot of possibilities tomorrow night. >> well, half a million new voters, that doesn't happen in midterms. that's why, you know, this idea of what is a likely voter. you know, i've said this on your air. i'm a poll roadster, but i think we're going to get a lot of surprises tomorrow because what we think is a historically likely voter and we're taking account in our models, you know,
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that's not true. half a million new voters in texas -- you know what that means? the polling there in texas is probably not picking up all those new voters because they're not traditional likely voters. and that to me is beto's pathway to victory there in texas. again, the obama continuum, expand the electorate. >> tom, there is also the fact that early voting has expanded generally, right? so, we're seeing new numbers, just to be apples to apples, right, it seems the habit of early voting and there are more places offering that between now and 2014. >> that's right. you have to look at the laws. the laws have changed. in some places they've made it harder to early vote in places like north carolina and ohio. for the most part they have. but, so that's why we're generally looking not just at the raw increases. again, if you look at the percent increase in texas, the turnout among younger voters,
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people under the age of 30 has increased by over 500% from 2014. very low baseline. there wasn't a competitive election there as you said for a very long time. it's not just that the younger voters are increasing in a percent sense. they're increasing their share of the electorate. in 2014 they were 5% of the electorate. right now they're 8.5% of the electorate. that's going to impact the polls as cornell said. >> really for beto particularly, even more than stacey abrams or andrew gillum or statewide races. he has to change the math and he needs a lot to fall his way to get over the threshold. thank you both. >> thank you. >> there is so much more to get to this election eve. coming up, congresswoman maxine waters will be here, so do not go away. so no matter what you trade, or where you trade, you'll only pay $4.95. fidelity. open an account today.
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the president's closing message down the stretch has consisted largely of two things. one of gros mix of racisms and other bigot the incitement, and two, an unprecedented level of lying even for him. according to the washington post, trump has gone from an average of telling five lies a day in his presidency to telling an astonishing 30 lies a day in the last seven weeks. while democrats focus on health care and good paying jobs, or to quote nancy pelosi, they have succeeded in not taking the bait. joining me is congresswoman maxine waters from california. i noticed for all the democrats, there has been a unified effort not to play on the president's turf rhetorically. what do you think of that? >> well, i think that we have
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learned a lot about this president and the way that he manipulates the press and the way that he tries to divert our attention from the real issues. and what we have learned is not to allow him to get away with that. and so i think we are being very successful talking about our issues, talking about health care, which is a very important issue in this country, talking about housing, medicare, social security, talking about the infrastructure, and we are winning because of that. >> california, there are a bunch of competitive races in california. your sort of state caucus might change quite a bit. what does it say about the changing nature of your state that you have these republican-held districts in deeply, deeply conservative formerly conservative orange county that are neck and neck? >> well, what it says is that this is the trump party. and those republicans who resent it have not been able to stand
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up to him and to actually get him to change. and now it's impacting them, and they're losing because of him. he is destroying the republican party, so it's all because of the trump party that i think we are winning in these deeply conservative districts, like orange county where so many of the candidates are coming from. >> nancy pelosi has talked about a kind of corruption package of reforms that she wants to introduce, should democrats take the house. what's your thinking on that? >> well, you know, there's always talk about, you know, cleaning up, you know, politics, cleaning up what goes on in the congress of the united states. that's not new. both sides talk about that all the time because they know that people do believe that there is corruption, that there is dishonesty. so it's a continuation of talking about what do we do to become better legislators, to become better policy makers. what do we do to get the
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confidence of the people back again. what can we do to prove that we are there about public policy, we are there about dealing with the issues, and it's not just about ourselves and trying to better ourselves because of the titles that we have. >> you will presumably, if democrats were to take the house, you would be the chair, i believe, unless something radical changes, of the finance committee. it's a very powerful position. what do you view as your agenda, should you ascend to that role? >> well, it is a financial services committee. it's a very important committee. and we have oversight responsibility for all of the financial institutions in this country. the banks, the big banks, the small banks, we have the insurance companies, we have all of hud, we have the international monetary fund. we have to deal with some issues that have not been dealt with properly for a long time.
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we have to deal with the national flood insurance program, we have to deal with the xm bank. it is an important committee. at the top of my agenda is dealing with the reform of fannie and freddie, and trying to make sure that we do something about the housing crisis. but, of course, i have to make sure that we never again, to the best of my ability, fall into what happened to us in 2008 when we had the exotic loans that were, you know, given to people in this country, many people lost their homes. but, of course, many of the people who lost their homes were in communities that were target by some of the biggest banks in america. so, we have all of those financial services issues and there is a lot of work to do. and i'm hopeful that certainly we will take back the house and that my colleagues will see fit to support me to chair that committee. i have the seniority, i have the relationships, i've spent a lot
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of time on reforms, the protection bureau, all that of work we have been doing to try to give consumers some protection. >> final question. there is a really fascinating item about the number of sort of enforcement actions the trump administration has brought in the first 20 months versus the last 20 months of obama. huge decline of enforcement actions against the banks and financial services. do you think wall street and big banks are hoping republicans keep control of the house? >> well, i have to say they must be thinking that because they have found a lot of support from republicans for everything that we have tried to do to bring about some fairness and some justice with these financial services, companies, et cetera. we have been absolutely fought against by the republicans, so they see the republicans are certainly more friendly to them,
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and certainly more supportive of their ability to continue the way they have continued historically. the banks really have control the congress of the united states of america. and many of our colleagues have said, oh, you know, all that's complicated. we don't understand derivatives. we don't know what they're talking about when they talk about volcker. and so they have gotten away with, you know, the kind of language that they use, in the way they produce their products. and so many of our colleagues have just shied away from that and let them do what they want to do, so they have enjoyed being in charge of, you know, all of their issues in the house of representatives and in the senate. and so i think they are a little bit worried that the republicans will not perhaps be in charge. >> all right. congresswoman maxine waters, many thanks. quick clarification. want to say earlier this hour we showed a graphic of the florida gubernatorial race, may have caught your eye.
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our system inadvertently populated some test numbers. obviously we do not have any vote totals here the night before the election. that was a miss fire. don't worry, i was pretty confused when i saw it up there to see it myself. all right. still to come, michael moore on how he sees things playing out tomorrow. just ahead. and the battle here in texas with the possibility that incumbent senator ted cruz could be defeated by beto o'rourke. like nothing we've ever seen. that's next. us make it all work. it gives us the best night's sleep ever. i recommend my tempur-pedic to everybody. the most highly recommended bed in america just got better. now more rejuvenating, more pressure-relieving than ever before. there's no better time to experience the superior sleep of tempur-pedic. save up to $500 on select adjustable mattress sets during our fall savings event. visit to find your exclusive retailer today. yes.
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recently, more than $20 million has been spent in the race for superintendent of public instruction to attack my friend tony thurmond's record. well, i've worked with tony, and no one is more qualified to lead our state's schools. that's why tony thurmond is the only candidate endorsed by classroom teachers and the california democratic party. because tony will stand up to the donald trump-betsy devos agenda and has always protected our local public schools. join me in voting for tony thurmond. let's put our kids first.
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we will organize not against someone else, not against another political party, not against anything. we are organized for one another. >> beto o'rourke has shown a difficult maying willingness to dem demonize law enforcement, to divide us, tear us apart. >> never again after the most desperate moment will we ever take a child from the arms of their mother or father. >> what it comes to immigration, what do texans want? we want to build the wall. >> we enter our 18th year of war without him. iraq, 27 years through six successful presidential administrations. >> for eight years under barack obama, our military was weak and our readiness was undermined. we are in the process of turning that around and america is back. >> that is what it's been like here in texas the past few months and what is one of the
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most closely watched and most polled midterm races in the country. to the annoyance of most republicans who said all along that cruz has it in the bag. but hours before the polls open, this race is very notably not a lock for republicans. the polling all of a sudden stopped. fivethirtyeight's nate silver pointed out, a democratic affiliate group show cruz and o'rourke neck and neck. as we were saying before, the early vote in texas has smashed records. 5.8 million people have already cast their ballots. more than 250,000 more than the presidential year of 2016. and more than double the figure of the last midterm election in 2014. so, we really don't know what tomorrow night is going to look like here in texas, but that's why we'll be here to cover it all as it happens. the day of the women's march, women have fueled a movement poise today shift the political landscape in ways we have not seen in a generation at least. rebecca tracer joins me next.
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as we have documented on this show, all throughout election season, there are a record number of women running for office this year. behind the campaigns there is an unprecedented volunteer mobilization this year and women are at the center of that, too. one organizer told "all in" three quarters of his active volunteers are women and 40% of those women hadn't done anything political before donald trump was elected. the women in the streets from the women's march it seems are now in streets across america knocking on doors and helping get people to the polls. here with me now, rebecca traister, author of the fantastic book, good and mad, the revolutionary power of women's anger. this is something you've been reporting on and seeing, witnessing firsthand as you've been out on the road. not just the candidates, but the women volunteers, the people knocking on doors. it is astonishing how powerful that force is, particularly in democratic politics. >> i think you are looking at so many of these women who, as you said, had perhaps been
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somnambulant, maybe they were regular democratic voters, a segment of them had been shocked into activism. again and again, i've been going around the country meeting women who describe their every night, every weekend, every spare hour that's not spent doing their paid jobs, dedicated to working for campaigns or with organizations that are comprising this kind of infrastructure to deal with voter suppression, to deal -- to funnel funds, create new ways of fund-raising, new ways of supporting candidates. there are all kinds of new organizations from run for something, sister district, spread the vote. women are just getting involved in all these different ways trying to address the inequities and broken parts of the system. and a lot of those people are very new to this kind of work. >> yeah, the newness is what's interesting to me. what have you been hearing from people that went from being, essentially, maybe more passive participants to sort of
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committing a huge part of their lives to it? >> well, a lot of the women who have been passive in the past are white suburban women who, perhaps because of their own proximity to certain kinds of power and privilege, hadn't been shocked into sort of an acknowledgment of the fact that the country's politics were broken. were sort of shocked by bias and hate and misogyny and racism and xenophobia coming out of the trump campaign in 2016, and then shocked by the fact that he won. perhaps some of them who were hillary clinton fans or voters and who just assumed she was going to win were shocked out of their apathy at the fact that she lost. and a lot of them have gotten a tremendous civic education in the past two years. they are learning about their local politics. they are engaged in their local politics. they are committed to local candidates. this is not just a banner presidential year politics, which is why their engagement in the midterms can be so crucial.
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they're coming up with new ideas about how to organize. they are talking to each other in their anger and shock. they have formed new networks and the beginnings of new coalitions. they are learning about some of the history of progressive activism. they are learning about, in some cases, their own racial and class privilege and the way that it has blinkered them in the past. these are conversations i have had with women around the country in the past few weeks who i don't think would have had these kinds of conversations three years ago, five years ago. >> you know, that point is really interesting because i've been watching interviews with some of the women who are sort of doing this volunteering, particularly in places like orange county or suburban virginia where you have a volunteer base that is largely white, relatively affluent, upper middle class women, it's not just that they're invested. their actual politics and world view is changing through the sort of experience of doing the work. >> absolutely. they are learning things every day. and in many cases, because we
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have a roster, a historic number of women candidates, women of color candidates, candidates of color, candidates with progressive left politics, a lot of them find themselves in this position of doing work on behalf of black women, women of color running for office. they are turning to leadership, to black women who have been organizing for many years and they are learning from those women. that is a dynamic, for example, in georgia that's really key. a lot of the women who i went down and talked to around the ossoff race in 2017 who were keyed up and engaged in politics. but in that race they were working for a young white male candidate. now they are going all-out for lucy mcbath, for stacey abrams. >> and i want to say that lucy mcbath race is the most interesting. we watched that race. that was the big marquee special election match up, millions of dollars, karen handled jon ossoff, ossoff falls short.
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she lost her son to gun violence. running in that same district is neck and neck, and not the candidate that would have been drafted by the democratic party political class a year ago. and right now is right poised to maybe win that race. >> but this is a lesson and it should be a lesson for all of us. and i think it's something that so many of these -- this particular group of women that we're talking about have been learning, which is that new kinds of candidates, candidates who are not traditional candidates, who are democratic establishment wants to send forward. these kinds of candidates can engage and lead. the people who have been doing this work for decades before us, often women of color, often marginalized people engaged in the trenches long before 2016, people would turn to who are energetic and possible leadership going forward. >> i have my eyes on that race and many others. rebecca traister, thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. >> tomorrow has a feel of a presidential election, doesn't
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we're less than 24 hours away from an election that will not own define the future of trump's presidency, but perhaps the entire country's political landscape for years to come. to talk about this i'm joined by academy award-winning filmmaker michael moore, whose latest documentary is "fahrenheit 11/9." michael, your thoughts tonight? >> my thoughts are these. i'm assuming everybody who watches this votes. so good on you for doing that, but tomorrow we're not going to win with just each of us voting. everybody has to take five people to the polls or call ten others, or if you can, take the day off, call in sick. blame it on me on wednesday.
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i mean, whatever. but i'm very serious about this that everybody, everybody has to be in the game tomorrow all day long. i'm going to do that. i'm going to be making calls to people who live in my congressional district, offering rides, doing whatever i can do. i'll mow their lawn this summer, i'll shovel snow this winter, whatever it takes. you have to get other people. you can't just rely on you coming. and i've said this before. don't rely on the polls. i see the big steve kornacki board over there. i'm really tempted to jump out of the chair and go touch it. >> don't touch the board, michael. we talked about this. no one touches the board. >> have i learn mid lesson from the one time i went -- we won't talk about that. but i'm serious about this that you have to understand, "the new york times," they're very honest lately about how they do their polling. last week in the texas senate race, they polled 51,000 texans
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to see how they could how they would vote. only 800 of them respond. they polled 7200 young adults between 17 and 29. only 66 young adults respond to the poll. >> yeah. >> so we know nothing. tomorrow, we could -- this could be a historic crushing of the republican party and donald trump, or the republicans could win and hold the house by one seat. one seat. >> one place -- i want to zoom in on something here, because one of the places that there was the biggest polling miss in 2016 where these are the midwestern state. >> right. >> you look at pennsylvania, ohio, michigan, and wisconsin, right? >> yes. >> and something interesting has happened this year. i wanted to get your thoughts on it. those are all states that trump carried. this year you've got incumbent democratic senators in each of those state, wisconsin, michigan, ohio, and pennsylvania, and two years ago
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people thought man, they're in trouble donald trump won these states. all four of those incumbent senators look to be doing pretty well in the polling averages. what do you make of that? >> i know for a fact that each of the four of them went to bed early tonight. that's how relaxed they are. but we shouldn't be. here's what i make of it. i think that what's going to happen in michigan, ohio, wisconsin and pennsylvania tomorrow is essentially what happened two years ago with trump. things haven't gotten better in the rust belt. >> right. >> things are still pretty bad. you were there. you've been there, more than once. the way that they use trump as a molotov cocktail in those states to blow up the system that had hurt them and not made their lives better, i expect them to do the same thing tomorrow, except in reverse fashion. >> interesting. >> things haven't gotten better in the last two years under trump. they know what that tax cut really was, and they haven't seen any of the results of it. they know that their life is not
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better, and i think for the same reason, because they want change, and they're going to keep throwing that molotov until they get it. >> interesting. >> and i think that may happen in the states. we may end up with four democratic governors in those four states tomorrow, and i think, i hope, at least what i've seen in my state in michigan, there is at least two or three house seats that have a good chance of being flipped. maybe more. >> yeah -- >> because -- what rebecca was just saying to you, i do believe the possibility of an army, an avalanche of women and young people showing up to vote. is going to be something that perhaps we've never seen before. it's very possible that this is going to happen. here is the other thing that people in michigan are doing to get out the democratic vote, and the republicans did it so well back in 2004 when they had like 14 states make it constitutionally illegal to marry someone of your own gender, and that really got out the vote for bush.
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we have on our ballot tomorrow in michigan two proposals. one to legalize marijuana, recreational marijuana, and number two, to outlaw gerrymandering and to change all the voting laws to make it easier for people to vote, same-day registration, et cetera, et cetera. these two ballot proposals are going to bring out a lot of young people. they're going to bring out a lot of women. they're going to bring out lot of people of color. they're going to bring out essentially what is the majority of the state of michigan, women, young people and people of color make up about 65 to 68% of the state. so, you know, we don't know as we sit here. but i am feeling, you know, better than i did two years ago on this night. >> you know, i've -- i've been covering politics my entire adult life since i was 22, 23. >> which was like what, three years ago? >> i've seen only two other elections at least in this broad center left and the democratic
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party progressive coalition that i saw mobilization like this. 2004 election. >> yes. >> against bush in which everyone in a certain kind of sector of folks that were very politically engaged were doing things like knock on doors, and 2008 with barack obama. i have not seen, just anecdotally in the worlds of people that are fairly tuned in, but not really anything like the mobilization that i've just seen anecdotally out there and as a reporter in the ten years since obama was elected. >>that is correct. just the fact that in tennessee alone, there was a 700% increase in early voting. >> crazy. >> young voters between the ages of 18 and 35. 700% increase. 400 some percent in texas. 400 some percent increase in georgia. >> in georgia. >> yes. this all could portend well, but, but the democrats are professionals at losing elections that they win or
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should have won. and we are up against republican parties in many of these states that have worked overtime to suppress the vote that it's something that we have to take into account here. that's why you can't -- you can vote tomorrow, but you've got to bring five other people with you, or you've got to call ten people or call 20 people. make a party out of it. make a nice lunchtime hour out of it. have a viewing party tomorrow night and you only get in if you got an i voted sticker. i'm just encouraging people to make this a good thing and tell people you don't want to miss out on this historic day. it could be a historic day. >> one thing we know from some of the political science literature on this is that peer pressure, social pressure talking to people about voting is the most effective ways to turn people out to vote if they know that people they know on their block or people, their friends are voting. the other thing, and i know you have done this, but my life
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before being a journalist, it's really interesting, and it's a great civic education, whatever your politics are and whatever party you support to go knock on doors to talk to people and be around other people who are involved, particularly on election day when you're just sitting around waiting otherwise. >> yes. >> on the offchance you can get away from work. >> people should just, seriously, yes, just go out randomly. you don't have to go to the campaign headquarters even. >> careful, careful. >> i've done this before. just go down and knock on door, do whatever it is you can do. >> do you realize that every field organizer and voting targeter in every office is cringing right now as you give that recommendation. >> that's because they know how to lose. and it's time -- see, thank god we've got alexandria and we've got rasheedah, we've got stacey, we've got andrew. we've got a whole new crop. and for the people who don't usually vote because you're sick of voting forbe these people, this is not your grandfather's democratic ballot. these are new people that are rung. people like you, not the old hacks, people like you. and, yes, you should go down
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your street and your apartment building, down your dorm rooms, wherever it is, wherever you are and knock on doors and get them out there to vote. you have to do this. >> all right. >> you have to trust that the american people agree with us, not the other side. and for the democratic strategists who are freaking out hearing me say this, you have had a nice run, god bless you. we're taking over now. thank you. >> just be careful when you're out there knocking on the doors in the apartment building. michael moore, thank you very much. >> yes, please. >> that is "all in" for this evening from dallas. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. good evening, rachel. >> good evening, chris. i'm excited to see whose lawn michael moore ends up mowing next summer and whose snow he ends up shoveling this winter. >> the amount of organizers i know in my life both professionally and personally and the sort of granularity with which they target voters and run an operation, the thought of, you know, just going knocking on doors. but activism, civic percent vacation is good. go do it. >> you know what?


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