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mtp daily. i'll have exclusive interviews with lindsey graham and sherrod brown. is he the last man that can win ohio? "the beat" starts now. good evening. the beat is back in new york tonight. it's a busy friday. a federal judge appointed by trump handed him a big loss overruling his attempt to ban a reporter from the white house. new developments in the growing blue wave. leak suggesting the feds may try to indict julian assange. that case has all kinds of implications. we begin with bob mueller rattling trump who made some actual news when he spoke to reporters today revealing for the first time that after months of negotiations which you've heard of by now, donald trump is taking mueller's questions on collusion saying he's now written up his answers to mueller and stressing he did it all by himself.
>> my lawyers aren't working on that. i'm working on that. i write the answers. my lawyers don't write answers. i write answers. i was asked a series of questions. i've answered them very easily. very easily. i'm sure they are tricked up because that i can ley like to people. >> a president claiming he's not relying on his lawyers for answering a question in a legal case. way too experienced in courtrooms and deposition rooms to mike thake that mistake so t claim does sound false. trump committing his collusion defense to writing is an important development. tonight we know that was the backdrop for trump's recent early morning tweet storm about the probe where he made the sel self-incriminating boast he has knowledge of inner workers that the prosecutors scream and shout and threaten people. comments he explained in a recent interview. >> on twitter yesterday you
seemed agitated about what you might be perceiving the mueller investigation. i'm not agitated. it's a hoax. >> did anything trigger that? >> no. i'm very happy. >> for months trump barely mentioned mueller. the new complaints as paul manafort asked for extra time and confirming there's still meeting there and cooperating and ready to fork over more details after thanksgiving. just like rick gates and michael cohen who reporters spot on his way to washington to meet with mueller's team. >> mr. cohen what brings you to washington, d.c. today? >> you meeting with mr. mueller? >> are you going to special counsel's office? >> how was your train ride? >> train was great. >> all those threads have fed a deep anxiety in the white house that mueller is about to make another move. we have quite a panel to break
this all down. you're here as a free man partly thanks to maya wiley. >> thank you. thank you very much. >> when you look at this and you're the only person in this room who has been inside with those prosecutors, what do you glean from these developments and the way the folks, some of them used to work with, are cooperating? >> in terms of the president, perhaps, i can't speak on behalf of them and i've had no communications with their lawyers or anything. it was no coincidence they are working on these written responses after the results of the midterms. i'm not so sure, perhaps, they would have given any answers because even if you read the recent book, the apprentice by the washington post reporter one of the issues of the lawyer
leaving doubt is he wanted to hand in a lot of written responses. >> you're talk about the wo woodward reporting? >> no the other book. >> the miller book. they didn't want trump giving up anything. he didn't think he would tell the truth in any form. >> particularly with the miller book what they said is there was an interview that was scheduled. it was going to be at camp david. it was cancelled and dowd but jay seculo was preparing responses to the 19 or so questions. they didn't think it was a good idea because they didn't want to have the president giving anymore written responses. >> nick, that goes to something else that donald trump said in his appearance today where he sort of made light of what he views as attempts to trick people into perjuring themselves. take a look.
>> they like to catch people with the weather sunny or rainy. he said it may have been a good day. it was rainy. therefore he told a lie. he perjured himself. you have to be careful when you answer questions with people that probably have bad intentions. >> are written questions in this form an issue for him for perjury or the underlying collusion question? >> first of all these written questions are written, the responses are done by lawyers. donald trump just basically signed off on these things. >> that was my impression. >> no decent lawyer would let him sit there and come up with his own answers. the odds are he would lie. you don't trap somebody in perjury. if they intentionally lie about something material, not about the weather or it's raining outside, but it has to do with the substance of the investigation and whether or not the trump campaign conspired with the russian government to help the trump campaign win the election. that's the issue.
it's not about whether it was raining. it's not about some minor issue that's not material to the mueller investigation. someone doesn't go in and trap themselves in perjury. you don't get trapped into lying. you either tell the truth or you lie. >> in that clip we saw donald trump who said it's me. i don't rely on my lawyers. nick is dubious about that, as am i. we'll get your view. i want to ply another donald trump who was all about relying on his lawyers. take a look. >> what did you do prior to signing this statement to assure yourself that you were accurately making the representation to the bank that you were entitled to draw down those funds? >> i asked my lawyers. i don't know that. you've have to ask the lawyers about that. >> yeah. you have to ask the lawyers. that just says it all.
he is a person who understands that if you're going to make sure do you not get yourself into legal trouble, then you have your lawyers help you. now, the lawyers can't make up the facts unless they want to be in legal trouble. >> let's law school it a little bit. what would be the facts that you'd need if the question was, did anyone in the senior management of the campaign talk to you about stolen russian information before it became public? how does the lawyer answer that in the right way if they don't know the facts? >> they have to get the facts. this is the point. he is submitting written questions. i think this is why unlike his answer in the suggestion i did it and it was so easy, it's not so easy. there are two issues. did he receive information, what kind of information and what did he understand about the source of that information. in other words, someone could
say i heard there were e-mails on hillary clinton. i was told there were e-mails on hillary clinton. i wasn't told where they came from. that's a very different answer then. paul manafort told me or roger stone told me there were e-mails that russians had hacked from hillary clinton or the dnc and they were going to be -- those are very different facts in terms of legal liability. the question that lawyers have to go through is to talk to their client about -- they also have to go through the documents. they will go through his e-mails and look at whatever they think the prosecutors have so they also understand whether or not an answer looks or appears inconsistent with some documentation. >> there's a republican official who was talking to reporters this week saying you can see in trump's body language there's something troubling him. it led him to believe the walls are closing in.
they have been notified about some action is about to happen. folks are bracing for the worst. if you think you were talking to him about all kinds of stuff, that would be the kind of thing that would make you nervous. >> it's not just roger stone. it's other people involved in the campaign that were connected with stone, the president. roger stone was very closely connected to donald trump. they've known each other for eons. it was roger stone who encouraged trump to run for president. roger stone has been a fixture in new york politics for a long time. >> when you were before the grand jury they were asking you about roger stone? >> one of the first questions i got from the special prosecutor was how often did they communicate. my answer was i don't think they communicated often in october because the president was on the campaign trail. with that said i also think -- >> you gave them what you say is your accurate understanding of
the information. you weren't always with them. >> correct. with that said also, as we saw with the steve bannon e-mails where roger starts attacking me, in that story, roger was also persona nongrata. he could have had direct access. what he's doing is on the obstruction, it's harder for the committee to argue on obstruction that he's obstructed this case. he's handed over documents. he's never fired anyone. >> did you say donald trump has never fired anyone? >> yes. >> you know that's not true. he fired james comey and put in the letter you cleared me of wrong doing. he linked it -- >> i'm talking about with mueller. >> the new york times said he
attempted to fire mueller. >> true but he didn't. this is more on the politics side and you know a lot of these folks. you're familiar with the term talking trash. then there's the notion of hot trash. trash so hot it's on fire. i'm referring to a dumpster fire and a critic of the administration who married into the administration. we called that married to the game. george conway who is married to kellyanne conway. >> i'm watching this thing and you know it's like, the administration is like a [ bleep ] show in a dumpster fire. i'm like, i don't want to do that. i realize there guy will be at war with the justice department. >> what do you make of that kind of criticism? is it fair and the kelly anne conway of it all? >> i've always said i didn't want to talk about this. my interpretation has been that
george conway was more than happen to become solicitor general. i don't know the reason why he with drew his nomination. what i do know is once he left, he wasn't partner anymore. he was counsel. this cost him millions of dollars. >> by the way, we're getting into the details. he's held himself out as mr. resistan resistance, you think there's a personal bitterness? >> yes. >> i don't buy it. i don't think you as an attorney go and burn bridges like that where your wife is eating. you usually don't mess with where you eat unless you really believe what you're saying. if you think about his op-ed on the constitutionality of appointing whittaker. those are very, very, very big steps to take because you're mad. he did withdraw. i do want to go back to one other point quickly which is roger -- trump was talking about
going back to the issue of conspiracy. he was talking about e-mails before october. he was inviting russians in july. i'm assuming you got asked questions about communications between roger stone and trump before that. >> they wanted to know why was roger stone -- was roger fired. they wanted to now how oftin end they communicate. what was his involvement with getting paul manafort fired. roger had a lot of problems with the campaign in terms of personal grievances. >> we we know mueller has asked for more time for status report to the court and we know that he was helped into the position of chairman of the campaign by roger stone. >> i got to get in some georgia
news. real quick. >> the idea that sam is acknowledging the question is whether or not roger stone was really fired from the campaign is really critical because what it looks like is that was a ruse for him to go underground and be in a spot where he had plausible deniability that wouldn't be related to the campaign. >> i don't know that the public facts go that far but they support some exposure. donald trump keeps in touch with people long after they leave the official campaign or government payroll. thank you both. maya comes back for a very special supreme fall back friday. we have breaking news update here on georgia. breaking this hour. stacy abrams says she will end her bid for the governorship. she said she's not formally conceding but notes she cannot win the race. she says she's going to continue to file a federal lawsuit over which she calls the gross
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donald trump defeated in court today. the president tried to ban a tv reporter from the white house but a federal judge ending that effort recordering the white house to return press credential to tv reporter jim acosta who routinely clashes with trump. cnn invoked a long standing precedent. as c nnn's white house correspondent he's got his own style of tangling with president trump. he makes the point of using him as a symbol for the perception of an over zealous and unfair
press corps. it does show the justice system working and trump losing one battle on the free press. let's get right to it. thanks for both you have being here on an important press story. why did donald trump lose this way and is it what he wanted? >> he lost because he had no fair procedures for denying acosta press pass. he lost because he was clearly trying to take out his frustration on an individual reporter. he lost because the white house kept shifting its story on why it was doing this and the judge was not impressed with their reasoning. >> you said something important which is the shifting and the lying didn't work on a single judge who is a fact finder which is different from when it works
on some of the media or some of our political discourse. the same tactic. >> a single judge who was a donald trump appointee. that tells us that our system is still working to some degree. democracy's guard rails are still in place. it was a significant moment. >> take a look at osta and trump in one of their exchanges. >> they said we have to create rules and regulations. you should let me run the country and cnn. >> if i may ask one other question. if i may. >> that's enough. that's enough. >> the other folks -- pardon me ma'am. >> that's enough. >> as a press critic having stipulated the ruling was good, is that a perfect way for him to occupy that role? >> i think acosta and cnn and
nbc, washington post, new york times represent hate objects for the president. he uses them to solidify his support with his base. he ran on the promise that he would put these people down for supporters who are alienated and angry with the news media. that's one promise he's kept. acosta has helped him do that with his style. the fact remains is you cannot discriminate against one reporter you don't like and that's what the court ruled today. >> mark. >> i think it's even worse than discrimination. first of all, he did lose. that's a big loss. ho he's probably in denial about it. he continues to play to that base. that's ha he wants to do. he's always targeted cnn. i know there was some so ll soly
around the lute lawsuit. he said we need decorum. that's the conversation in the white house how he needs to behave. he is still making these threats to a news agency that was targeted by a bomber wearing one of donald trump's hats. in that regard it's worse than discrimination. he's not let up at all. i think it's further more proven how much of a puppet he is to slad plvladimimir putin. he's treating the press the same way putin treats them. >> putin is widely accused of human rights abuses that involve jailings and killings. >> he's getting up to it. >> i want to look at the types of fights he picks. the cnn thing seems to be its own thing. i'm trying to cover that as objectively as possible. viewers know they are our come p -- competitor.
he's attacked reporters who are black. >> black women. >> let's take a look. >> you are a rude terrible person. >> what a sptupid question. >> you're creating violence by your question. you. >> i show you that because how do you view that when so many of those interactions are and trump understands this more than most people, he's a master of television production. there are isolated shots of him. does it come from a personal place about who he thinks should be questioning him or is it also do you think a type of theater because he thinks his supporters will get a message from this in. >> i think it's personal. he makes personal attacks. calling people stupid. calling other people racists. more examples of projection. i would say in terms of solidarity for the media, the
next time he holds a formal press conference, every news agency should send nothing but women of color to question him and one man jim acosta. nothing but women of color and jim acosta. >> now i think you're writing fan fiction. >> that's what needs to happen. he's only speaking to these black women in that fashion and jim acosta. he's attacked a few people on this network as well. this has gotten pretty bad. >> finally, jay, how does the press do better? >> i think they have to understand that the white house is no longer a place where they pick up useful information and interviewing the president is no longer way they can find out what's going on in the country. what trump says is as likely to misinform the public as it is to let americans know what's going on. they have to understand that. they have to realize that we have seen that pattern already and we know what's going to happen.
they have to bracket or displace trump's words from the center of the news and start to present their own portrait. not depen dedent on him of what going on. that's a big shift from what the president says is news as a general rule of behavior. sd . >> you're talking about a full paradigm shift. it's so important because you don't have to be an experienced jou journalist to know we're in a different era. you have such a habitual liar running the federal government. the people who cover information have to change the way we cover information. i'm going to pfit in a quick break. we turn to the blue wave flipping, i have guests about what used to be reagan country is now blue. back in 30 seconds. country is now blue. back in 30 seconds we've shown just how far love can go. (grandma vo) over one hundred national parks protected. (mom vo) more than fifty thousand animals rescued. (old man vo) nearly two million meals delivered.
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here she was taking selfies in the rose garden party with trump at the white house. we'll show you those in a second. there she goes. that was something she was touting at the time. that clearly hurt her and it's part of what you see on your screen now. the 36 seats up from our projection of 35. the democrats biggest wave election since water gate with women voters and women candidates. before the election we interviewed eight first time women candidates. of those, three have won their races. joining me now -- >> there's never been a native american woman in congress. >> connecticut as well as never sent an african-american woman to congress. >> i'm a working single mom of three young children. it's vepart of who i am. >> i need to speak up for people like me. my students, their families, my community. >> our democracy is only as rich and vibrant as the voices we hear in it. >> from candidates to congresswomen. joining me is host of show on
facebook. thanks for being here. liz, this is a story that's unfolded over a long time. you can measure it from the women's march at the dawn of the trump era. you can measure it to the me too movement was which was non-electoral or a lot of women who were telling us, as they told me people, in the old days nobody asked them to run. this year they said we're running any way. >> it's very powerful not just to see the women running but to see these women one. there was so much invig ratiora. to see seize women, single mothers, regular american women of all shapes and sizes, all
perspectives, all ethnic minorities to women of different sexual orientations is very powerful. >> how this blue wave seems to be building over day after day, i was down in florida. we'll talk more about that later. that's a state where it's not election day. it's days. we're reporting on a new seat in california because it takes so long. how does that affect the way the media tells the story and the way the country understands how big this election was. >> i think it's turned the wave into a bit of a slow rising flood. it's here now and it's a reality. i was tempted when you showed the map of georgia to say i'm glad the gipper didn't live to see orange county turn blue. that's the heart of reagan country. i want to say one thing about this blue wave, it's in the hands of the democratic party.
i find it hard that will bet on the blue clihips. i think the message for middle america is they want a different kind of democratic leadership and i think the press may be going too quickly, back to your question about coverage, to assuming that her re-election is a certainty. >> that's been the debate. why would you change the woman who led the democrats to the place they have. far less talk and rachel maddow who made this point about chuck schumer who is sitting on losses. let me play marsha fudge talking about her meeting about a challenger. take a look.
>> she did not tell me not to run. the meeting went well. we had a good discussion. i told her i'd get back to her. she's done it well and she enjoys doing it. i have to decide if i want to do that too. >> we're used to seeing -- first of all, there's been this freshman class of primarily young women of color who have been very vocal. i think that's a really good thing. i think a lot of people in if med media, we went to this is division or bad. this is making the democratic party better. not just pushing them on the environment but pushing them to consider that the environment -- >> isn't that part of what the tea party model, politically, to keep pressing. even if she's leader, will there
be upwards pressure on this. >> absolutely. we're seeing the conversation as a case study. it's been interesting to see thm going ba -- them go back and forth. she's trying to push the party on positions that led them to win this election in the first place. >> as rick ross says, idols can become rivals. >> there you go. >> i've seen it many times. >> liz, i'm going to let you go. howell i'm going to keep you. >> i'm out gunned. >> my thanks to both you have in this segment. before we go to fall back, this bomb shell about julian assange. the doj revealed they want to indict the wikileaks founder and what does this tell us about mueller circling roger stone?
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here is a serious leak. we have now a revolution that federal prosecutors were exploring criminal charges against wikileaks founder julian assange. this is a bomb shell and it comes because a prosecutor made a mistake and inserted assange name in an unrelated filing. a kind of a cut and paste error referring to him as charged and remaining it should sealed until he were arrested. assange still hiding out in ecuador in london and fears arrest from perhaps more than one country. let's be clear about this story. no one knows if this leak means there are charges that would be brought because of wikileaks 2010 publishing of diplomatic cable something the obama
administration explored but declined to do or the recent story after leaking information that's traced back to russian hackers. we don't know if they would be based on the publishing of material or other larger crimes. we do know a fact. bob mueller has referred to wikileaks and that indictment of 12 russian hackers, he call countdown it organization one and identified it as the place that russia used to get their stolen e-mails out. i'm joined by a former federal prosecutor and a reporter for the daily beast. there is a story that many people have speculated about but this is the first time we have seen any public reference in any federal justice department
material about doing this. what's your view? >> this is mistake with massive consequences. not just for america's diplom diplomatic relationship with ecuador but for the doj. this pulls back the curtain in terms of how the united states government is thinking about julian assange. one word of caution is we have no idea what he could be charged with and it's entirely within the realm of possibility these charges are not exactly show stoppers. one cyber security expert pointed out in the past it's been reported that julian assange hacked or spied on the ecuadorians that were hosting them. that could be a crime totally unrelated to the secrecy work he's been doing that's made him
word famous. >> which is a good caution. i'm not sure if it occurred outside of u.s. jurisdiction. i know it's friday night. i don't mean for every one to get excited. let's stooart with the most straightforward interpretation. if this were a charge only for the publishing of material by the trump doj, would that be concern i concerning because that would apply to all publishers? >> i think the publishing of material alone would be close to the protections we have given to journalists. i did he cooperate with guciffer and do damage in 2016. >> you're talking about
conspireing. do you think that kind of prosecution could hold up in court. >> there was a charge in that. he might move himself into a different category. there's the question of knowledge and intent and the communication with guccifer involved timing for the release of the information that was directly with more momentum and affect the elections. i think that's different than a journalist just publishing what he has.
did it come from the russians to him? we believe so. it involved roger stone. sort of like the second act in mueller's investigation. >> betsy, the filing itself doesn't have a direct link at all to the special counsel probe. do you have any clues that suggest whether this might be related? >> we just don't know. i would feel a bit nervous speculating. one thing we know is people have thought there was a sealed indictment in the eastern district of virginia where this filing was made against julian assange. that's one of the major sources of concern of people in his orbit that that charge was already on the books. it's totally plausible that was there and it pre-dates the mueller investigation. all plausible this is a new thing. >> the cut and paste type of
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time the fall back. today we are joined by legendary singer mary wilson. founding member of the supremes. a group with 12 number one hits. she's an inducinduck -- inducte the rock and roll house of blues. >> another icon, former new york times editor. the author of multiple books including fly fishing through the midlife crisis. it's wonderful to have the three of you together. >> thank you. >> miss wilson i'll begin with your big question. who would you like to see fall back? >> who. i don't know if it's true -- >> it could be who or what. >> millennials. can i take this out of my ear?
i feel like i want to stop and sing. my daughter's 42 years old. when i go to a bank or starbucks or whatever and they say, mary, i'm looking at these kids who are like 15 years old calling me mary. i'm 74 and a half years old. it took me a long time to grow up. not that i've grown up yet. i feel that the respect that elders, we used to give our e s elders is not there anymore. i know they are like ceos of companies now. we didn't have that but that's happening now. i just think we need -- i want to give a fall back -- when i was growing up, we didn't say that. is that a new word? >> it's a little new but it's not just us on the show. it's real thing. >> i know that but every one is changing the meaning of things. girl, get out of here.
>> it's kind of like get out of here. >> when they said to me, i'm like what are they talking about. fall back. >> i think what you're talking about -- >> you tell me what you're talk about. >> i'll talk to you about what you're talking about. >> i want to see your notes. >> i need notes. that shows i'm prepared. we quote lyrics sometimes for inspiration. we quote the great biggie smalls who talked about the ten cracked commandments. i feel you're talking about the original ten commandments. one of them was honor your mother and father, honor your elders. we don't do that anymore. >> we don't do that. we need to do that again. ms. wilson. >> ms. wilson. i'll stick to that for now. >> i'm older. i want that respect. >> i wouldn't say that, ms.
wilson. i would say you look fly. >> now how old are you? saying i look fly? i'll talk to your mama about that. >> i'm 38. does that mean i can say it or -- >> oh my god. i have a daughter 32. you could be my son. >> first of all, i'm sorry, you can't top that. >> i really can't top that. i do want to say for the record, though, that my two daughters would say ms. mary. because we brought them up to say -- it would be mr. howell in the southern tradition. >> i'm from mississippi. i know exactly what you're talking about. >> we got the texas end of that. >> we had a tough week. but i'm going to start with tim
ryan when he said there are plenty of competent females who could be speaker of the house. as a competent female, i would like to say don't call me a competent female. >> i've got a targeted fallback in relation to another southern state, alabama. i want to say to former attorney general jeff sessions, fall back into a rich republican law firm or into a k street lobbying firm and make lots of money and don't fall back to alabama and run for your old senate seat -- >> where he might try to run again now that he's out of a job. >> against doug jones who is off to a good start representing the working families of alabama rather than its corporate leadership. >> that's a strong one. everyone is wondering what jeff is going to do. i am fresh back from florida today. my fall back is for the florida elections officials and brenda snipes, who i can tell you from
firsthand reporting have a lot of trouble just doing the job of making sure every vote counts, which is an important job. it was all over the place. you can't even predict what was going to happen. we're going to show just a little bit of what we you a this week. >> the seals being broken are reserve ballots and the recount is under way. >> do you want to vote? >> dogs have a lot of rights but not the right to vote. >> how did you meet the deadline? >> i uploaded by 3:00 like i'm supposed to. >> reporter: breaking news, broward county now admits they submitted their recount numbers two minutes late and thus under the rules, the results apparently will not count. >> in florida we're sort of running out of adjectives to describe what's going on. >> this is on brand with the state slogan, which is "florida, where everything is wrong."
>> maya? >> florida, where everything is wrong says it all. we used to have this thing called the civil rights movement. when we had the civil rights movement, we were fighting for the right to vote. now it as if the civil rights movement didn't happen. it's just straight up, old fashioned interference with votes from people they think will vote. >> and who would think that at this time and age this would be going on? i mean, i remember my mom who could not read nor write. she would run to the polls and vote because that was her right. right now she'd say hold on a minute, girl, what's going on here, you know? i marched to be able to vote. two minutes, huh? two minutes late? >> yeah, two minutes. almost as much as six. it is unbelievable. it is an honor to have you here. i will say the only other thing i'll say about florida is amidst
all of these problems, there was a bipartisan coalition also restoring voting rights to ex-convicts last week. so there's progress mixed in with what we saw down there, which is messy. >> can we agree that anti-semitism has to fall back? >> now they're telling me i'm over time but it's worth it. darling. you're a joy. >> i thought you said i was a joke. >> a joy, a joy. thank you to all of you. check out miss wilson's cafe debut november 20th through 24th. >> ooh, thank you. ugh 24th >> ooh, thank you. e. hey, no big deal. you've got a good record and liberty mutual won't hold a grudge by raising your rates over one mistake. you hear that, karen? liberty mutual doesn't hold grudges. how mature of them! for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise their rates
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that's our show. "hardball" with chris matthews starts now. just answer the questions. let's play "hardball." ♪ ♪ good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. this is the week when donald trump began to worry. he knows that the mueller probe on which all else rides is closing in. he said as much this afternoon, that the investigation is, quote, ending now. >> the witch hunt, as i call it, should never have taken place. it continues to go on. i imagine it's ending now. from what i hear it's