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i'm stephanie ruhle with a lot to cover starting with a border battle. hundreds of migrants attempt to forcefully enter the u.s. officials use tear gas to break up the cloud. leading to a partial closure of the southern border. >> i've already shut down parts of the border because it was out of control with the riots on the other side in mexico. >> an eye opening report from the government buried on a holiday weekend describes the dynamic crisis and climate change, arguing that inaction could set the u.s. back for decades. >> participate in a longtime discussion about the magnitude of the challenge. >> the race could not be the higher. president trump slated to hold two rallies as the republican is taking the idea of a runoff
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election quite literally. >> senator,ing you stood inside of deborah davidson's house and said this is mississippi history at its best. what did you mean by that? >> we begin this morning at the busy u.s. border crossing. reopened after a chaotic and violent day. things are calm but the tensions remain as high as they could possibly be. i have a great team to break all of it down. i want to try to walk through what happened. this started out as a peaceful situation that got out of hand. about 5,000 migrants had been camped out in tijuana. that process has been very slow. frustrated migrants chose to protest the process by holding a march on sunday.
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migrants were confronted by mexican police leading to pushing and shoving. some saw it as an opportunity to force their way into the united states and that's when things really fell apart. rushing the border and trying to climb the fence. the chief of the u.s. border patrol describes what happened. >> agents were assaulted, a large group rushed the area, throwing rocks at my men and women, putting them in harm's way. we need to disperse them from the area. >> prompting the president to close the border crossing for five hours. it reopened about 5:00 p.m. local time. officials say 39 people were arrested on the mexican side and
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we heard from u.s. border control 42 others made it into the u.s. but were arrested. no one was killed. there is no guarantee we will not see something like this again. this morning, the president said it's up to mexico to handle the situation, tweeting, quote, mexico should move the flag waving migrants, many of whom are stone cold criminals, back to their countries. they are not coming into the u.s. congress, fund the wall. in fact, mexico's interior secretary says it has acted. following sunday's event, it said under 500 migrants tried illegally to cross the border. but mexico says it will not send troops to deal with the situation. at the border crossing.
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julia ainsley has been all over this story. nbc chief white house correspondent hallie jackson joins me. hans, you saw what happened there yesterday. what exactly went down? and do we think more of it is coming? >> this is the san vsidro border. what happened yesterday is they took these barricades and put them across. what they did was try to prevent foot traffic from using these car lanes to breach the border. as it is right now, the border is open. yesterday started off with a march towards the border. a couple of hundred of those migrants living inside the shoulder tried to cross over a bridge. they were stopped by federal riot police from the mexican
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government. you did see some skirmishes. that's when they went down to that dry riverbed, which did have some water coming through it. the strempench was overpowering like raw human sewage. they tried to get closer. what they wanted to do was surrender. they wanted to file their asylum claims in person. they didn't get there. at some point there was tear gas fired. then the migrants went up and over and tried to find a different spot. it's at that point they used -- we saw some ladders in there, trying to breach the fence that way, the u.s. border wall. as you said, a few may have gotten through. it was kind of chaotic. a lot of migrants came in this area. we saw some ugly violence between tijuana businesses,
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again, they survived on the commerce, they need that to stay in business. some violence from tijuana residents towards the migrants. the border was open yesterday and these crossings now are up and running. you still have 5,000 migrants. the border is four to five. we did see a lot of assets. it's just unclear how this resolves itself. >> mexico's role going forward. there has been talk of a deal to keep the asylum seekers in mexico and now it's not happening. >> i spoke to some u.s. officials who have been involved in these negotiations and they say what they hadn't hammered out yet is what mexico will
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return. they want investment in their economies. they want to see that honduras, guatemala and el salvador, the northern triangle of central america, get the help they need to combat poverty and gang violence. mexico gets that is why. but it is not clear that the trump administration is also going to make that admission and give mexico what they need. the way that was explained to us is look, the steel is done, we're just working on operational and legal, logistical issues. mexico is now saying no, we don't have a deal until we get that. >> mexico is saying this is about foreign policy, not about migrants once they get to the border. this seems like it would fit perfectly with the push for more border security. you're seeing that on both sides
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of the aisle. from the get go, he wanted funding for that wall. >> you're trdrawing an importan distinction. with border wall funding and border security funding. >> two things. >> the president wants $5 million for a wall. and he has also made clear in just the last week multiple times with reporters that he is willing to let the specter of a government shutdown loom over these negotiations. that is separate from border security funding. more money for various things that will help shore up u.s. defenses along the border. so two different things. what is striking is the clock kind of is ticking. now in the last couple of weeks before that december 7th deadline. next friday, in less than two weeks, congress has to figure
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out what they're going to do related to the president's ramped up demand for this border wall mope. the president has to decide if he really is going to move on his threat for a government shutdown. >> or separate the two, ramp up the demand for more money for security but not necessarily a wall. everybody hang. i want to bring my panel in. brett steven, op-ed for "the new york times." and mark thompson, for sirius xm progress. for weeks the president is inflating the threat posed by the migrants. >> he wasn't inflating the threat. but those migrants provided him with an advertisement. by trying to storm the border. we have to have some kind of rule of law. i'm as pro immigration as
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certainly you can be. but there has to be some kind of control over our borders and we can't have people simply pushing their way in. my mother came to this country as a refugee but she waited five years for her visa. immigrants understand that rule of law is essential. we should have as liberal a policy as expected. those few migrants did trump a favor by their behavior the other day. >> and maybe hurt other migrants who simply are trying to seek asylum. >> we have no for policy when it comes to central america. we have not done very much as h honduras. it's descended into criminality
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in the last ten years. since we have no sort of proactive foreign policy, we're left contending with this at the border. >> i want to pray part of what the chief border control agent told cnn. >> i did not see people asking to claim asylum. matter of fact, one of the groups, where actually several were arrested, they turned 10 or 15 marked border control. chant, waving the honor during frag and throwing rocks at the agents. if they were truly seeking asyl asylum, they would have walked up and hold their hands up and that did not take place. >> does this mean some people are using the caravan as a cover to sneak into the u.s.? and if there are what that does to thousands trying to seek a
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better life? >> even if there are, i'm not convinced, but even if there are a handful of bad apples, it does not negate the reality of what these people are fleeing from the northern triangle. and what some of the reporting said was when these individuals who were in the asylum process, it is legal for people to come into this country to seek asylum. >> yes. >> it is not legal to tear gas people. trump is not a fan of asylum seekers. he's demonized these people already. perhaps some of these were just frustrated and chose to engage in protest. even if it's a handful of them, when you start tear gassing masses, women and children, that's not a good thing at all. i don't see this as them giving him an advertisement.
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i think this further shows the cynicism of his administration. let me tell you what's hard. this whole caravan thing was coinciding with the midterms. there are no midterms. this is the hementality of the trump administration. >> it's horrifying, but does it work? is there a portion of the american people, juliette, that this actually speaks to? >> one thing we're seeing hearing is the steven miller strategy playing out. there's a portion of the american people who are paying attention to him and actually want to go to that extreme. one thing important about the strategy, this swarm of people we're seeing stay on the mexico side, we're seeing them come to the border, this is all part of the strategy and there's a legal republican for this. you have to have your foot
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inside the united states. they can keep these people in mexico as long as possible either by not letting them in, letting these lag times build and build. they won't be able to have a legal right to asylum. >> so to that exact point, when the president says they're hardened criminals, most people out there tonight realize this. they say why don't people wait their turn? you can't wait your turn and seek asylum -- steven miller getting away with some legal mumbo jumbo. >> you can get an asylum claim once you put your foot in the united states. that's right. the issue isn't simply about asylum seeking. it's about the law breaking. he tried to enter the united states in a matter that tde,
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affected that law. he need a process that weeds out the bad people, but otherwise is generous towards immigrants. the problem is the president is trying to push forward an approach of essentially zero tolerance for any kind of asylum claims that creates the very kind of crises he claims to fear. >> does what happened change the debate on border security on capitol hill? >> possibly. i think that something has to be done. i agree with brett. done along the lines of establishing a policy that is more efficient and manageable.
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that is the problem, people trying to get in. there's a clock on that. the debate will change but whether or not the republicans who are still in power for just a little while longer have the political will to get it done, i'm not so sure about that. hopefully, when the democratic majority gets in, they can come up with sound and efficient immigration reform to prevent this. this should not be exploited as some type of -- i don't know why that's happening because it didn't work in the midterms. we just had thanksgiving. this is a holiday, about family and love and togetherness. this country -- >> loving your neighbor. >> this country's tear gassing families on the border. that's not good look at all. >> there's a political opportunity which is the democrats ought to use the
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majority in the house for broad immigration reform and if trump wants a wall, okay, i think that's a price worth paying. >> really, how much? >> look, a wall is basically a stupid idea but if that's the price for the dreamers, for expanded visas and their spouses, that's a price i'd be willing to pay politically. >> this situation is not going away so we'll cover it going forward i'm sure. up next, an emergency meeting of the u.n. security council called after russia seizes three ukrainian ships. is this crimea all over again? the northern california wildfire is now 100% contained. over the span of 17 days, the so-called camp fire spread across 240 square miles.
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welcome back. i'm stephanie ruhle. a couple of hours, the united nations security council will hold an emergency meeting. here's why. ukraine is accusing russia of war mongering after russia fired shots and seized three of its vessels. the dispute went down in the
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kerch strait. russia says warships trespassed into territorial waters. this video from ukrainian authorities appears to show the moment a russian vessel rammed into a ukrainian vote. it was shot from a russian vessel and it is not clear how ukraine obtained this footage. at least six sailors were injured in the attack. the government is doebating whether to introduce marshal law. richard engel joins me live. let's say everything i just went through is foreign to me. what in the world is going on? where do things stand? >> you have to understand a little bit of geopolitics and geography and then everything makes sense. if you pull up a match the sea of azor, it is right between the
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russian mainland and the crimean peninsula. 2014, russian troops, not wearing their uniforms, took over the peninsula, occupied it, made it part of the russian homeland. between this newly occupied area, which they took from ukraine, and the russian mainland is the sea of azor. slowly, since 2014, the russians have been asserting their dominance. they've been stopping ships. yesterday, we saw major escalation where russian vessels rammed ukrainian military ships to prevent them from entering into the sea of astore. ukrainian officials say this is an escalation by russia. that russia doesn't want this
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sea, which is shared jointly, that russia's trying to make it into a russian lake, extending its dominance to the land and now taking the water that separates russia from crimea. >> there's this emergency security meeting happening this morning. what should we expect out of it? >> the security meeting that's happening at the u.n. or the security -- >> at the u.n. >> you can't just have russia or a foreign country seizing international waters. name another country, panama suddenly closed the canal. any other country closed a major international waterway for territorial gain it would become an international incident. the question is, will this just
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be a condemnation at the u.n. or will any country, the united states or other countries, namely nato, actually do anything about it? will they just condemn russia for taking this step? or will there actually be any action? if you see so far, the trump administration has not been generally in favor of strong nato action to confront russia. >> we'll continue to cover this when that meeting commences today. richard, thank you so much. up next, in a few hours, president trump is going to head to mississippi to hold not one but two rallies ahead of tomorrow's election. this as hyde-smith is literally running away from her controversial racial comments. first, we are keeping track of gun violence in this country. there have been more than 51,343 incidents. one of those victims is on your screen, 21-year-old emantic
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time now for your morning primer. we begin with nearly 1800 flight cancellations and almost 5,000 delays after a major winter storm. producing blizzard conditions. former trump campaign foreign policy adviser or coffee
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boy george papadopoulos will surrender to a federal prison in wisconsin to serve his sentence for lying to the fbi. the european union endorsed the brexit deal. now she's got her work cut out for her. she has to convince her divided parliament to vote in favor of the deal. and french police clashed with thousands of protesters in paris over the weekend as marches continue over rising fuel taxes. riot police used water canyons and tear gas. and the 21-year-old accused of driving his car into a crowd of peaceful protesters last year in charlottesville, virginia, killing heather heyer, will be in court today. he faces charges that could land him in prison for life. now mississippi where
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tomorrow is the big day. voters will head to the polls for the final race of the 2018 midterms to decide who takes the senate seat. president trump will be in the state today hosting two rallies for the embattled republican in hopes of bolstering support ahead of tomorrow's runoff. nbc's ron hilliard joins me from jackson, mississippi. you tried catching up with the senator. what happened? >> good morning. the attempt has been made over the last week with cindy hyde-smith to further explain what she was apologizing for. last tuesday night, she gave a broad apology to those concerned over a series of controversial remarks and past situations in which she put herself into. last night was the latest attempt after earlier in the day slipping out of a back door. for a lot of voters,
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particularly african-american voters, the issue of race is important to them and yet cindy hyde-smith has made the decision to not expand in depth or conversation about this. this was the latest event. >> we're going to an event, thank you, guys. >> why not speak about the issue? it's a lot of people we've talked to across the state that are concerned about your remarks and what you're apologizing for. why not speak to this issue? no, you haven't. i'm wondering what is it you were apologizing for. senator, you stood inside of jefferson davidson's house and said this is mississippi history at its best. senator, what did you mean by that? senator, this is -- a third of
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your electorate -- >> we're feeling great, thanks! >> united states senator -- senator, you're running to be the u.s. senator, why not talk about race? >> stephanie, the reality is this is going to be very difficult for espy to pull off, based off conversations with republicans across the state. trump has two campaign events here today. over the last week, engaging with republican voters, particularly the white electorate which is overwhelmingly republican, more so than not, these individuals say despite these comments, wishing she has a better response to them, ultimately they say they will vote because of the issues of pro-life and being pro-gun and that's ultimately what it comes down to. they believe essentially her
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past comments have been misconstr misconstrued. >> all right, mark, she came under more scrutiny over the weekend after reports surfaced she attended segregated academies. she also sent her daughter t the same type of school. tell us what that means. and not just the three of us sitting in new york, what that means to people in the state of mississippi. >> well, in that debate, which will require some really -- there was a question asked about education and her response was to, she said there needs to be less of federal government involved in local education. that's when the jackson free press broex the story. so it was clearly a dog whistle. she went to a segregated school
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in reaction to the federal government implementing brown versus board. she's ridiculous and i'm sorry when you asked me a question, i should have just said nice to see you, thanks for having me. i hope mike can win. it is going to be tough. i hope he can pull off a dog jones miracle. at the very least, he'll be able to make a dent in the way that gillum did in florida. the very least, i hope mississippians get out and vote against her. some republicans have been saying she represents the old south, they don't like that anymore. i hope mississippians get out and vote against straight fruit cindy. >> the only thing i disagree
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with is dog whistle. when you try to rename a highway jefferson david memorial highway, that's is loud and clear -- >> i'm speaking specifically to the education -- >> this is loud and clear. why are people voting for that? for those of us sitting here in new york city, even the thought of, what, seg ra graded academy. >> it covers under the sheet of quote/unquote heritage. when you talk about jefferson davis, it's time to stand up and say the biggest traitor in american history was jefferson davis. and they cannot say it because they refuse to admit what is obvious to everyone what jefferson davis represented was slavery, institutionalized
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racism, was a violation of everything the founders set forth in the declaration of independence. it is a rejection of the concept of the united states as a pluribus furnum. and that has exposed especially when people say they expose the true quote/unquote treason with liberals. all the things they claim to oppose are actually things they're standing for when they talk about evjefferson davis' memorial road. >> the democrats make great inroads in the suburbs in the south but rural america, the democratic footprint eroding more. >> well, but i'm still optimistic. we've been seeing people say
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they're ashamed of what she said. >> they are conservative republicans who want a better choice than that. >> it's disgraceful. i hope they stand up tomorrow. cindy's almost -- she's cartoonish almost in what she does. taking pictures with confederate hats on, what have you. >> this isn't a cartoon, this is real life. >> it's worse than criminal. nikki haley provides a very good model of the southern republican governor. who understands it's time to take down that flag. she proves you can be a successful woman, politician, in the deep south, and fight against those symbols. this woman is doing so despite -- >> she's doing a good service to republicans. >> it speaks to some deep
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conviction with her. >> a vote against cindy, a vote for mike espy is a vote against emme emmett. what she represents is disgraceful. and uphold all the history. people like her say the civil war was a way of life. the way of life was slavery. and in mississippi, lynching. >> this is real life. what is happening in 2018. we hope that the people of mississippi will get out there and vote tomorrow. coming up, a new government report details the significant damage already done by climate change and even more significant still to come to the environment, to human health and the numbers are staggering and contradict the policies pursued by the trump administration. remind our president trump,
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wildfires in california and the southeast, crop failures in the midwest, disrupted supply chains. all of these will set the u.s. economy back decades. joining me now, climate and energy reporter for "the new york times," carl davenport. and axios' felix salmon. remarkab ablable split screen i coming years. >> what is so remarkable is this climate report, authoritative report on the impact of climate change, on the u.s., was done by the federal government and released by the white house, side by side. the result of the report, the conclusions are very clear. increasing greenhouse admissions
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will wreak severe economic devastation on the united states in the coming decades. side by side with a president who has made it a centerpiece of his policy agenda to undo regulations on greenhouse gases. president trump has questioned and denied the established science of human caused climate change but more significantly working to make sure more greenhouse gases are released into the atmosphere, side by side with his own white house releasing a report saying greenhouse gases released into the atmosphere will take 10% off gdp, hundreds billions of dollars in damage in agriculture, to roads, building bridges, energy infrastructure. i talked to experts who said this kind of dissidence of these two side by side is like nothing they've ever seen.
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>> because the president had to wear an extra layer on the golf course, he simply is denying that climate change exists. it was a particular calculation to release the report the day after thanksgiving to minimize impact. credit where credit is due, they did not to change it and they followed the law by releasing it. >> absolutely. so this report is released by law. it's a 1990 law that says the scientific agencies of the federal government need to produce a report that looks at the impact of climate change on the u.s. the last report was during the obama administration. work on this report was started during the obama administration, well under way by the time trump came into office. it is the work of career scienti
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scientists. it's the work of federal scientists who start this work and put it out no matter who's in charge. the people i talked to said there was a calculation, a discussion. because they would have -- they could have gone in and tried to change the conclusion. that would have been toxic if it was found. they also could have tried to soften some of the overall language. there's an introduction meant to be read by the general public. they could have tinkered with it. that gave a softer, not quite as stark or alarming overall take. they didn't even do that. a lot of the scientists said absolutely, you know, they didn't -- no one came in and messed with us. an administration that has been seen trying to surprise or tamper or change climate science. they said this is an example where they absolutely did not do
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that but the report was scheduled to come out actually in the first week of december which would have hit in the middle of the annual u.n. climate conference on how to implement the paris a cord. of course president trump says he wants to withdraw the u.s. from under the paris accord. >> well -- >> so i think there was a calculation that would have been a massive, you know, media bomb. putting it out on black friday, they thought no one would pay attention. >> it came out on black friday and we're covering it here. felix, it also spells out a huge hit for the economy, a 10% hit to gdp by the year '21, in just a few years. this includes 160 billion bucks in lost wages. and $507 billion worth of real estate at risk of being
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inundated by rising sea levels. talk about the economic implications. coal is the president's favorite thing. you could mike bloomberg, read his book, watch his movie. coal has not just a bad impact on our environment but it's also not smart economically. >> coal is still growing internationally. climate change is a global problem. the number of coal plants being built today in china. coal consumption is going up in japan and india. >> why? >> hawe have $1.5 trillion of damage. that's like a baseline. imagine when huge parts of texas and florida, you can't live there anymore. those states being inhabitable
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due to climate change. it will be in states like texas and florida. >> this is the first election we have seen especially with young voters show up and care. until now lots of politicians have brushed this aside. >> they're going to care more because it's going to become increasingly visible. you're going to feel it. your earnings are going to go down. your ability to find work is going to go down unless you're a coal miner in china where there are four million of these people. coal is what builds economies. if you're a fast growing economy in asia, then you need a lot of concrete. you need a lot of steel. they would like to but they are
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just full steam ahead. >> thank you for your piece. we're going to stay on it. doesn't matter when the report comes out. we'll keep covering it. up next, the blue wave in the 2018 midterms was aided in large part by a swell of support from never trump republicans. can they be expected to vote again democrat in 2020? hello mom. amanda's mom's appointment just got rescheduled - for today. amanda needs right at home. our customized care plans provide as much - or as little help - as her mom requires. whether it's a ride to the doctor or help around the house. oh, of course! tom, i am really sorry. i've gotta go. look, call right at home. get the right care. right at home.
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a new and potentially growing challenge for democrats hot off the heels of huge wins in the mid teterms. the party got a big win from suburban never trump republicans who voted for democrats in traditional gop strongholds like orange county california. here is the conundrum from democrats. was the support from the republicans in 2018 a one off? you wrote about democrats and can they count on these suburban never trumpers in the 2020
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election because if they do, what happens when these people are now in office. they want to get to progressive agenda and those who voted for them say not so fast. >> this is one of those interesting things that democrats will have to think about the next couple of years is there's clearly been a realignment. their coalition includes a lot of moderate, maybe conservative voters who were maybe leaning republican. they're still not entirely sure what they won. it's possible a lot of voters are moving closer to democrats on the issues on things like health care, immigration, guns, climate change. it's also possible that when something comes up like raising taxes, for example, a lot of these suburban new democratic voters who have opposed tax increases of any kind in the past and voted republican might revolt. this will say a lot about the character moving forward. how they integrate the voters who are moving from republicans to democrats.
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sdp you also write this about the never trump republicans. on the right, some think there's chance to win the voters back either after trump departs office or sooner if the 2020 democratic nominee scares them off. who would scare them more than donald trump? is this about moving to a really far left bernie sanders type? >> it's hard to say specifically. people haven't started making their case. when i talk to republicans they mention someone who seems more strident, more actively interesting that aren't particularly like them on issues or different regions. something that doesn't appeal to them on some deep level. my guess is they are talking about issues. it's really unclear and
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especially if the voters have moved left, it's possible that doesn't scare them off. they might even been supportive. there's a lot of picking apart the results to go over democrats oz as the what the voters want. >> there's a lot of strategies those two parties need to implement. thank you for joining me. for all you out there i've missed you the last few days. no matter what, there's always good news somewhere and we think good news rules. when north carolina state troopers bryan mainer stopped two passengers in a mini van for speeding he was unaware that a third passenger was on the way. they were in a huge hurry to get to the hospital to give birth to their new daughter. that little girl couldn't wait any longer so the trooper sprang into action and right there on the side of the highway he helped the couple deliver their baby. we are told that all are doing well. that is a great state trooper.
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it wraps us up this hour. i'll see you at 1:00 p.m. with my partner. more news with my friend hallie jackson. good to see you. this morning, the world's busiest border crossing is back open. under a new threat from the president it may close for good along with the rest of the border after protests over the administration's asylum policy ended with men, women and children tear gassed by u.s. officials. we're there live in just a minute with more on the mixed messages from the u.s. and mexico about what to do now and how this could play into a shutdown show down in less than two weeks. this hour, we're waiting from developments maybe on just how much cooperation paul manafort is really giving to the special counsel. is robert mueller getting what he wants from the former trump campaign chair? we'll find out today as another staffer gets ready for three hots and

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