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south. it's never too early to talk 2020 as the potential presidential field gets more crowded. the latest to dip his toe in. you see him right there and dip into his own wallet. michael bloomberg. we have 2020 vision later in the show with our team set up and ready to go on this friday morning. we start with that partial government shutdown. the white house is digging in on its demands for some kind of border barrier money. they are putting nancy pelosi under the bus saying it's her fault less than a week she's expected to become the next house speaker. han is at the white house. garrett is up on the hill. hans, let me start with you. we have seen a lot of action from white house officials this morning. we don't know what's on the president's schedule today. we can presume, perhaps more tweets. >> reporter: always a safe bet. what we saw from the white house is engaging on multiple fronts trying to establish the terms of the debate going forward these next few days on the shutdown.
what you see from the president is expanding the playing field. opening up the possibility of shutting down the entire u.s. border. he did it via twitter. here is what he had to say. obstructionist democrats do not want to give us the money to for the wall and change the ridiculous immigration laws. nick mulvaney was talking fox news and talked to reporters. when we asked about whether or not this threat was real. have a listen. >> is he willing to go that far? >> i think he is. i think he's trying to draw light to the fact this is a crazy discussion to be having. >> what deal then is president trump willing to accept that is anything short of that wall? >> we're still building it. that's why the government is closed. the president is not willing to give up on the southern barrier. tlarp w
>> reporter: that was the change on fox and friends. >> you have now members of congress. i spoke with congressman ryan costello who predicted this could last for weeks. this will last until hell freezes over. his words. not mine. people are bracing for this to go well into 2019? >> reporter: more or less. we'll see what happens. democrat have said when they take control of the house on january 3rd, they will pass something to re-open the government. we don't know what it will be. they could pass the same short term measure that the senate passed by voice vote that kicks the can until february or pass any one of a series of other combination of bills. >> wait a second. >> reporter: yes. >> those are options democrats will do. i know that's very annoying.
they will sign. >> reporter: this is the point. democrats will do this as a messaging thing. democrats will say we passed something to open the government and now we leave it to you mitch mcconnell and the senate and donald trump in the white house to decide what you're willing to accept. it will make the argument that democrats are here to govern and put even more pressure on republicans to decide what they want to accept. the dynamic here at the end is interesting. if you listen to every one the white house has put out over the last couple of days to talk about this, they blame this on nancy pelosi and say she doesn't have the votes locked up to be speaker. that's not really true. she does have the votes pretty well locked up to be speaker. it's a fascinating dynamic for republicans to leave washington after two years of complete and total control over every level of government in washington to say we're leaving this to nancy pelosi to fix. it's a bizarre dynamic but again pelosi will have the cards because she can start the process moving again in january.
right now, none of other players in this drama are inclined to do so. >> garrett and hans, my deepest thanks to the both of you for coming on this show and for your patience every day as we talk through all of this. thank you both. this morning as the president threatens to shut down the southern boarder you have home l land security secretary headed there. she'll be reviewing conditions in two locations after the deaths of two migrant children in u.s. custody. here are their pictures. 8-year-old felipe gomez. ken vogel and jjulia, let me start with you.
what does the secretary hope to accomplish? >> they are keeping it close to the chest. we know she's going to el paso and then to arizona tomorrow. those are two high traffic areas for people crossing the border. it's closed press. we won't know whether she's leaving main boarder stations and going down to the stations in more remote areas. that's a place where jakeline call had to wait for eight hours when she was put on a bus when it took an hour and a half for her to get to a hospital and get the medical care she needed. with we know he was ping-ponged around four border stations before he met his death with 103 degree fever which is now the flu. we know she'll be looking at the resources and it's not clear if
she's willing to go far enough to have people at the border stations who can take vitals and temperatures. looks like they will be interviewing them and asking about symptoms and medical history. >> we have learned about the death of that little boy. >> he had an autopsy that was released and looks like he had the flu. the flu can be deadly and some of his symptoms that he exhibited like the high fever, the glossy eyes all point to that. the thing we have to keep in mind is these people are already in very vulnerable situations with low immune systems. this isn't like a child catching the flu in pre-school. this is someone who has been through an exhaustive journey who might be depleted on hydration and food. he was given that. days and days of this journey can leave someone in weakened
state. it points to the fact these stations are not built for children. they were built for adult men. it seems that is more apparent than ever. they did not build these stations to be equipped for these populations and more now than ever, these families are going to these remote areas because it's harder and harder to get in the legal way. they are having to wait weeks and months in some cases. >> julia, thank you. dave, let me go to you. we heard from sarah sanders about this this morning saying it's a tragedy. nobody wants to see this. also saying this is a reason why they are trying to deter folks from making that journey in the first place. sounds like the white house is trying to walk kind of a line here. >> the secretary of dhs said don't make this trip. >> people are still making the trip. >> they are making the trip.
it is -- they are putting at risk themselves and their children by making the trip. whether or not they get perfect health care at the border or not. more has to be done to provide that health care but they are taking risks when they start out on this trip which is a very long arduous trip for an adult. that's a decision they have to try and make here. they have to start looking at that decision. that's part of this whole issue. second part is we have to have better and more health care on the border. that's something because this is a different type of immigration, as we just said, than we have seen before. these are not young, healthy men. >> betsy, you covered it. >> the trip is dangerous. one of the open questions from the case of this 8-year-old boy who just died in custody is whether he died because of health problems he developed during that dangerous journey or because of the way that he was treated in custody.
there's new report from the a.p. that indicates the latter may be the explanation. family members said he appeared to be healthy. his father didn't indicate he had health problems. when he was put into custody, it appeared that his health deteriorated. to be crystal clear, we don't have the full story right now. it's possible, of course. he did have that initial health deterioration on the journey. this is why having a clear process of assessing the way he was treat second-degred is so i. the important thing is figuring out what happened. dhs does not have a great history of examining the treatment of people in its custody. we reported about a trans woman in ice custody who passed away there. an independent autopsy that we obtained indicated she was beaten while she was in custody. the reason we had that autopsy is because independent medical examiner had access to her beside rather than medical examiner brought in by dhs.
the question is who is going to be in charge of determining how he was treated. who will be in charge of assessing where the medical problems came in. >> democrats want to make sure they have plenty of oversight come the new year. >> we'll see a lot of it. the day comes about discarding the journey. the trump administration has done a lot to do that to try to tell migrants don't come here and they have made it more difficult by setting up more rigorous screening at the ports of entry that have caused some of these migrants to have to travel more to find a port of entry and made the journey more treacherous increasing the responsibility on us once they are in our custody to treat them as not only hu humanely as poss. >> there's a focus on the border in a different way as it relates
to donald trump at the white house. as hans talked about, the president is tweeting about shutting down the southern border and cutting off aid to other countries if he doesn't get what he wants for border barriers. steel slats are cool. is this going to come down dto matter of semantics so everybody can define it and call it a win. >> there will be a different action. we're getting a good lesson in how civics works. >> a good lesson? >> yes. >> a couple weeks ago leader pelosi said you cannot pass 5 billion and then they passed it. then you had the senate pass something. leader pelosi said 1.6 is too
much. 1.3. will she take another step back from compromise to go to a lower figure or add more language making it clear that you can't call this a fence or that a fence. that will be interesting because then you'll go to senate that has 53 republicans and the two republican who is didn't want to vote this past week on a higher figure are gone. will then the senate republicans have enough votes to pass something and will you then be in a situation where chuck schumer is filibustering what the senate wants to do. >> you're putting this on nancy pelosi. >> no, no. it's on everybody. >> it sounds like that is what you're doing. >> this is the way the government works. >> the goth vernment is not working. >> we're not letting it work. >> who's we? >> chuck shchumer. >> the senate and the house
controlled by republicans. >> the process is you do something in congress. you find something that you can pass through congress. the question then becomes who is stalling it in congress. we don't know right now. at this point it appears to be chuck schumer. >> the man in the oval office is saying i'm not willing to negotiate. >> that's a part of the process too. our process says he has the right to sign a bill or not. >> yelling at me to wrap up the segment. i appreciate you coming on. i want to talk to you about the fact paul ryan is going out this way. i'm sure this is not how you thought he would end his tenure as speaker of the house. >> i think he hoped to end it on entitlement programs. >> you two are sticking around. we'll talk more after the break. up next, we'll talk about one of the last days of trading in 2019 and the wild ride that we're seeing on wall street. we're checking in on the
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sending markets into any temporary tail spins via twitter. all of you in washington today. what a nice treat. let's talk about the glow ball issues affecting the economy and the markets. >> the challenge with the trade war is we don't know what's happening. we don't know who speaks for the u.s. we don't know if something comes out via tweet whether it's verifiable. it's easy to say china has been a bad actor on trade. it's completely unpredictable what and when the asks are going to be and when it's going to be resolved. one thing we all know is that markets loathe uncertainty. >> there's a lot of it right
now. >> i would say that's the prime uncertainty. there's other uncertainty out there. we have some indicatindicators. when we look at some things like state loans, for example, they are showing indications of a slow down in china. china has the ability to flood money and stimulus into it ts o own economy to fix problems. >> there's uncertainty as it relates to domestic politics is the president's comment about the fed and the policy that the fed is undertaking, raising interest rates. something some experts disagree with and so does the president. >> i have a hard time with this because the president is not wrong about the fed. there's not a lot of evidence that they should have hiked. that they should be continuing to hike. if they can hike, they will. if they can justify a hike. there isn't a good reason to be hiking.
we're not seeing a lot of -- the inflation we were worried about it was just sort of kissing the bottom edge of their argument of 2% has dropped back below that. i don't know what run away inflation we're worried about. many good things are happening with the american labor market. things with don't want to end. companies are going into rehab, finding people with drug problems and figuring out way to get them through rehab and back into the labor market. these are things the companies didn't used to do. >> if you agree with him, i a assume you don't think he should fire j. powell. >> we're not even sure he can. complaining about it is not helping anyone anywhere. of the feds he could have landed with, like if he had the greenspan fed, he would have had a massive problem. greenspan was way more worried
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this morning the u.s. ambassador to syria under president obama has a message that may surprise you. president trump's syria decision was essentially correct. a washington post op-ed the president should review after he announced the syrian pull out as an opportunity to make the most of his essentially correct but
widely unpopular move. ambassador robert ford argues the following that many have asserted that the withdrawal gives victory in syria to russia. the portion of syria that u.s. forces control along side their syrian democratic forces allies is desert or drought prone planes. that's his argument. do you agree? >> not exactly. i agree with him that if we don't do anything more diplomatically on the ground effectively russia and iran and syria have won. i think those of us who bemoan this hasty, uncoordinated withdrawal bemoan it for two reasons. it's an inability to convert any leverage we have which we do
have some leverage as long as we're on the ground to d diplomatic gains. it's happening in face of a lot of other things including secretary mattis resignation. >> sensitive time. is there a way as ambassador ford argues that the president can make the most of this. is there something the u.s. can do. >> ambassador ford is man i respect highly. >> i'm not asking you to go after him. >> thank you. what he's saying is forget about diplo diplomacy. he's saying this president is not going to do anything to concert this to any kind of gaggag gains.saying forget it.
there's no compromise. the best thing question do is to protect the kurds and protect tur turkey's interest. we should negotiate a withdrawal with russia. we have to withdraw at some point. i believe we might have been able to get more. effectively our president is giving up. i'm not sure he should have given up and if he should have given up, she should have done it in coordination with our allies. >> taking a step back. one of the big picture challenges for the trump administration and obama administration ocn handling syra policy is there was never a clearly articulated goal for what american troops were doing there. even if you talk to folks at central command which is responsible for overseeing military operations, they were never totally clear on what the long term project was. trump has said the reason troops are there is to fight isis. american troops have been there since 2013 prior to the rise of
isis. they weren't there because isis existed. the broader question of what the united states state relationship was never one that was totally clear. there were folks in the united states who wanted to see a regime change happen but that wasn't official u.s. policy and the result is that you had this american presence in a really tense, violent dangerous part of the world without a clear goal. >> he talked a lot in defense of his decision here in syria. he talked about other things too. mainly democrats back home and domestic politics. here is a sampling of that. we want to refresh folks memory. >> the democrats don't want to let us have strong borders. only for one reason because i want it. a lot of the media doesn't want to report it correctly.
tell nancy pelosi, i don't want the wall. oh, we want the wall and we get the wall. >> the washington post is writing his behavior highlighted a struggle pentagon leaders have to navigate. how do you see it? >> i see it exactly that way. the job of the military is to do what the commander in chief does. not the leader of the republican party. america goes to war or goes into peace keeping operations in order to secure american national security interests. not the interest of republicans or democrats. there's a very strong bias against politicalization of the military. he said these guys came to me. you don't do that in front of troops. >> it's so nice to see you onset. >> thanks for having me. >> of the break, we're diving into 2020. plenty of headlines to digest
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allegiances of state democrats that could be a significant factor in the fight for the nomination. former new york city mayor michael bloomberg, his top political adviser is suggesting he is ready to spend, at least 100 million dollar on a 2020 run for president. in an interview, he tells chuck todd the next president, whoever that is, needs to be ready to lead on climate change. >> we have some real problems. if you don't come in with real concrete answers, i think the public is tired of listening to the same platitudes they get. we're in favor of god, mother and apple pie. i'll have plan when i get there. you have to have plan. i don't know whether i'll run or not, but i'll be out there demanding that anybody is running has a plan. i want to hear the plan and i want everybody to look at it and say whether it's doable.
where do you want to start? you want to do texas? >> that's where you want to go. >> let's go there. the sort of i don't want to say obama 2.0 but that's the whole vibe around o' rourke versus somebody who could be the party's first presidential candidate. >> i want listening to the intro and it made me excited. they are two of the faces of the future of the party. i do believe for democrats, democratic party, if a contestant is good for the party, and you have all of these. you have beto and julian. we have other young upcoming faces. you have kamala harris, cory
booker. all of these folks makes that a good thing for the party. what voters really want is a variety. they are interested on who is going -- the different types of people that are jumping in. they want to see what is their platform going to be. how will they be challenged out there in the field. how are they going to get not just excite the base but have to bring in new voters. i think that's the key here that we're seeing. that's really exciting. >> what do you think the obama factor will be? we know obama met with o'rourke. he has a relationship with castro and biden. what role does the former president play? >> barack obama plays a really important role. he's the last democrat president who won two successful elections. if i'm a candidate that is thinking about running, you want to have a sit down conversation
with obama. i would assume he will have many conversations. he's going to stay out of it. i think that's what he will do. he'll step in in the general election to play his part as the very popular former president. that will be key and important. he'll give his advice. >> obama was so masterful of walking that tight rope between the base of getting the base excited on the aspirational rhetoric. keeping from veering too far from the left with any policies that the right or that centrists could hold up as toxic. that's the risk for democrats in 2020. there are going to be so many candidates who will be competing so hard for different parts of the base that they will put markers down and trump will be able to use against them in the
general. >> one thing i've heard from folks when they look at this field that we're putting up on screen. there's more people is this idea of who can win. there's an interesting piece out this morning about how democrats see 2020 as a head versus heart moment. in iowa, nikki memes, a democratic activist who pledged herself to obama said the innocence in us wants to fall in love. whoever we all think stands the best chance then let's get out there and start door knocking. for me it's okay to fall in like. >> one of the things i think will be most interesting is seeing how the size of the democratic primary field affects the way it all plays out. this is the first time since 2008 there's been a seriously toss up competitive democratic prima primary. it has the potential to be larger than 2008 was. in 2016 republicans had kind of
the same situation where it was an open playing field. the fact that the field was so crowded made things really weird and interesting and unpredictable. i think that will be the case with democratics in 2020. >> and expensive. >> nice transition. this idea of mike bloomberg going to spend $100 million how do you see that fitting into this moment when there's an appetite among younger progressive democrats to say we don't want somebody who will buy the presidency. >> that will be a real fault line headed into 2020. this question of whether candidates are going to accept,
encourage or disavow super pac money. >> to be clear he's talking about his own money. >> if he ran, he would spend far more than $100 million. he spent $100 million on his y may mayoral run in 2005. he's ready to spend more than that. it would be closer to $1 billion. you see candidates like beto o'rourke, bernie sanders who have gained great traction in the race by casting them ining as the opposition to big money. we'll see a real divide between candidates who court that big money like maybe a cory booker or a castro.
>> the 100 million dollar, he'll have money to put in but i would rather have grass roots. then it shows there's a movement behind you. i think that's really key. i don't know if bloomberg has that grass roots support. >> thank you. up next, we'll circle the drain that was washington in 2018 and bring you some of the most memorable moments from the swamp. you're watching msnbc. from the swamp. you're watching msnbc. gentle means everything,
it's time to drain the swamp in washington, d.c. >> if i'm elected president, we will going to drain the swamp in washington, d.c. >> when we win on november 8th, we're going to washington, d.c. and we are going to drain the swamp. >> drain the swamp. you heard it again and again on the campaign trail for then candidate trump in 2016. let's look back at his first two years in office because that drain seems to have been a little clogged.
scandals, conflicts, ethical violations. some of which forced key administration officials to resign. there's tom price whose tenure came to a close last september over criticism about his expensive taxpayer funded private jets. then you had in february veteran affairs secretary forced after his improper use of taxpayer dollars. in july scott pruitt was forced to call it quits. ryan zinke retired with mounting ethics investigations on him. that's a look back at 2018. who is on swamp watch in 2019? one of our friends of the show and swamp watch correspondent julia and back with me betsy woodruff. julia, thank you for being on on this holiday week. we wanted to bring you on because you've done so much
reporting on scott pruitt. what was your biggest swamp watch moments of 2018 for you? >> a couple of big ones were when i reported along with my colleagues how mr. pruitt had sought to get multiple jobs for his wife including a chick-fil-a franchise. that along with his efforts to seek a used mattress from the trump hotel are the things that stand out and then with ryan zinke while there's a number of things that generated headlines when the inspector general report came out talking about how he had violated the policy about his wife traveling in official government vehicles and changed the policy to allow that to happen. that's something that reverberated in the white house. >> secretary zinke had the exit
interview said what was my wife supposed to do, run along side the car. that was his defense of what happened there. your top swamp watch moments of 2018, when you look back on the year, what stands out to you? s? >> it's the kushner family, the fact that jared kushner's cyst "early star -- between administration officials and business endeavors have caused massive headaches for this administration. >> ken? >> i've got to go with tom price. that was the first time -- >> technically 2017, i will say that. >> i'll point out from price to zinke, to pruitt, the unifying threat is just how small bore this stuff is. you're a cabinet secretary, you can't sacrifice a little bit with the knowledge that once you get out, if you do a good job
and aren't forced out under a cloud there will be riches waiting for you beyond anything that you could tap into for -- you know, from your perch inside the government. if pruitt could have sat tight, pruitt will still do well, we've reported that he's talking to a number of emergency producers about doing work for them, but to be able to like step out of that role, you have sort of your pick of any job on the street, your ability to make 7 figures and you don't have to worry about getting a used mattress or getting yowife chick fil a. >> i don't want you to tip your hand to all the reporting for the next year, but who would you put on swamp watch for the year ahead? >> well, i think actually as betsy mentioned i mean, i certainly think the kushner family will be the subject of scrutiny and i think one of the
broader things is we have to see who fills some of these empty vacancies. in case of tom price, i wouldn't imagine that things would happen there, but we're still waiting to see for example in interior does david burn hart step up and take that role? if he does there's going to be scrutiny and i think there will be a lot of krscrutiny now. >> yeah, and one person who might have learned over the last year that we'll be looking at too, ken, is ben carson over at hud and betsy here, there have been a series of headlines about his spending et cetera. he's defended that obviously. doesn't seem to be in any jeopardy of losing his job at this point but he's somebody that could be put on swamp watch in 2019. >> another one who couldn't resist the office redecorations. i would put trump's superpack on
swamp watch it's paying out huge sums of money to these former consultants who don't seem to be doing a whole lot for it and that's where we see the donor who is are sort of most making an effort to curry favor with donald trump making large contributions. weave seen sheldon allison, for instance, get really quite a bit of special treatment from the administration and from president trump in particular making a pitch for him to get a gramabling license in china to president chi. i thi -- xi. >> mal whitaker, a no brainer. he previously worked for a slightly curious conservative nonprofit making a ton of money doing a ton of work that was a little bit vague and was additionally connected to a company that's drawn scrutiny from federal prosecutors.
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is still open when it comes to mueller's team trying to get more information from the president itself. we confirmed in a piece that we ran yesterday that those talks were not terminated even after trump turned over a list of written questions. it's totally plausible that there will be additional fights going forward in the coming months. >> although unlikely that an interview happens. >> unlikely but the tension is still there. >> what are you working on? >> last week the treasury department moved to lift sanctions against these two big companies by a russian ole gark. my forces tell me that democrats are going to work to block the lifting of sanctions once the new congress comes in. >> it's always a pleasure to have both of you. happy 2019 because i won't see you until the new year. >> go eagles. we almost made it through a whole show without talking about it. have fun at the game on sunday. today's big picture is not related to the eagles. it's something a little more blue. it's not the giants, it's new
york city skyline. what is that? you may have seen this. made some big news. kind of strangely beautiful, also slightly apock lialypsepoc. that caused this crazy blue flash in the sky. no evidence of extraterrestrial activity, thank goodness. it did shut down operations at la guardia for a while. all is well, no injuries but everybody did freak out up in new york for at least a little while. this picture, bloomberg, we'd love to hear your thoughts as always on facebook, snap and insta. i think ysaw some men in black over your neck of the woods. >> i don't buy the official response here. and typically you're a little bit more cynical too. >> thanks, will smith. sounds good. >> have a good weekend, my friend. >> craig melvin here. we are following several
developing stories right now. the homeland security secretary headed to the border today. she has been facing heavy criticism for the deaths of two migrant children in the u.s. custody. >> jackie did not have to die. >> i'm sorry. >> she did not have to die. jackie did not have to die. >> the partial government shutdown is now in day 7 with president trump issuing a new threat to democrats. and it's getting very real for about 800,000 worker who is will not get their regular scheduled paychecks today. >> if the pay doesn't come through and i think that's why most families are feeling right now is just that uncertainty. >> and the wild ride on wall street rolls on after massive rebound thursday. stocks once again have been up and down all day. how will the markets end this week? we'll take a look at that in just a moment but we start at the border as president trump threatens to seal