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my executive producer is probably laugh books. >> when you're in your commercial break do you look at twitter? >> maybe sometimes, don't tell them that. >> i hated this segment, how dare you say that. >> sometimes i get into it with people on twitter. >> i try not to, i love when people hear things you didn't say. >> this wasn't a conversation that used to happen. >> okay, take it away, do the news. >> they're wasting their time, that was president trump trying to set the tone for today's negotiations in the first bipartisan conference meeting to avoid another shut down. the president tweeting this morning that committee members are wasting their time if they're not discussing or contemplating a wall or physical barrier. we're just 16 days out from another shut down, a committee of nine democrats and eight republicans are starting
negotiations on a compromise for border security. while there is no plan on what that will look like, members and leadership do agree that the committee must produce some kind of an agreement by next friday. that should give enough time for the deal to pass both the house and the senate and reach the president's desk before a second shut down begins. right right now sixth funding bills are ready including spending where border security is appropriate. "where it makes sense. republicans are looking toward the white house for solving this issue, but mitch mcconnell is insisting there is no appetite for another shut down. several proposals are also in the work including talk for legislation to prevent all future shut downs. with that let us start on capitol hill.
garrett is standing by, is there any news on if there is progress being made or likely progress to be made in this bipartisan conference? >> i suppose we have a tiny bit, i just stepped out of the conference. democrats opened their statement here saying they're ready to expabd on the $1.6 billion offer on border security that we were talking about for so much of the last 40 days or so for the shut down. we think that number will go up, $1.6 billion will not be the final offer for democrats. we don't know what it will be or how close it will get including the money for a wall that the president wanted. so far they have been very friendly. and the dynamic here is this. democrats have come in with a plan to see it rolls out here in the coming days and weeks as the negotiations go on here,
republicans are looking to the white house to figure out if not what white house wants at least what white house won't reject. essentially hoping they can negotiate toward the president's priorities and also hoping that he doesn't interfere in this process and that they're allowed to do their work so they can meet somewhere on a compromise. take a listen. >> what i hope to do is talk about the things that will help secure the porder in the most cost effective way. and i think we can come up with something that will security a border in the future. >> the basic deal we need to get done is a solution on border security. what else comes into the mix we'll have to see. >> ali, we're once again talking about semantics here.
there has been an increasing openness from democrats since the democrat has been reopened to talk about barriers and how far they're willing to go on that and what they're willing to agree to will be part of the dynamic here. democrats have a new mer kal advantage in this committee. at the end of the day they could pass something out of this committee on votes but getting it through the senate is the ultimate goal here and the other end of pennsylvania avenue is where the questions are. >> let's hope that we're not talking about another shut down. thank you, garrett headache for us on capitol hill. >> just in from the white house, an incident involving the secret service. kelly, what do we snow. >> this was an incident that happened in the last few hour where's a uniformed secret
service officer was injured on street near the white house. and they are arrested a individual for breaking a security barrier and assault on an officer. this is about a block away from here and part of the larger complex and there was a chinese delegation motorcade also moving through the area that attracted protestors. that is often the case when there are officials from the chinese government. and they have to care for any foreign dignitaries coming in, so protestors broke through a barricade in the street, an officer was injured and there was an arrest. we're expects more on that, there aperioded to be contact between motor vehicles in the motorcade and individuals.
we don't have a report. this ensnared traffic for a period of time as well as well as you might imagine, and when you have a delegation from a country as notable as china, and secret service officers were among those working without pay during the shut down and that offer now injured from his work on the job here we will check back as we get more information on the officer's condition. >> i want to go back to the latest negotiations. the heart of the debate is the president's insis dense of the wall at the border. this is not big enough for his own intelligence community to have addressed during their
meeting with congress. they contradict their past claims from isis to russian influence. >> they will seek to retain their capabilities and they will give up their nuclear weapons and production capabilities because their leaders view nuclear weapons as critical to regime survival, the kremlin is stepping up to divide western -- >> i think the most recent information is the ironians are considering taking steps that wouldle wou would lessen their adherence. she seemed to have hit a nerve for the president because president trump tweeted this morning that the intelligence
people seem to be passive and naive for the danger from iran. what do we make of this. >> he bha commenting on the affect of the officials rather than the substance of what they were saying. the president says he loves gina who has 30 plus years in the agency. christopher ray director of the fbi, his appointee, and the divergence of the president's understand i understanding what he is seeing in contrast with what is one of the striking things, a worldwide
threat hearing for the concerns that the government has about hotspots around the globe. in this con frast betwekocontra white house and the president. critical because policy is set by policymakers like those who advise the president and the white house, and if there is another opinion, and now we're at point where the president is encouraging them to be schooled, these are of course professionals with background and history, reagain see his reluctance to accept these opinions by his own intelligence committee. not hold overs from the obama administration, professionals at the task for a long time and his own appointees. it is concerning for this split in the road between the white house and the intelligence community. at the same time the chiefs there were certainly prosiding soaper and detailed
investigation to congress, but also by extension making public some of the things they think set a record straight according to their analysis on some of these hot issues. >> although not new. the president's refusal to accept the view of his advisors. the trump organization says they will now use e-verify, the electronic system that verifies people's eligibility to work to check employee documentation. this is after reports of a number of undocumented workers at trump properties. >> the president is in the hospitality business and there are many workers that seek work there in different hotel and resort properties across the country. so too it happened at some trump properties, and when they became aware there was individuals who applied for their jobs with documentary that was falsified
or in some way not credible, they were fired, and the trump organization said they have thousands of employees across the country and when they're made aware of these kinds of bee breaches they take action. that means now they're using the e he verify season which allows them to check credentials of people seeking employment. sometimes they don't use it because those that do not use it are in effect looks at other way or they want a more convenient labor pool and that is a challenge, so they're saying publicly they are embracing this tool to make certain their employees meet the requirements. >> i want to bring in the congressman from georgia, doug
collins, thank you for joining me. i hope i'm not feeding the fire by telling our viewers we're 16 days off from another shut down, because we're often close and we don't get there but know it feels very real. talk to me about what your hopes and aspirations are to head off another shut countdown. >> no one wants the shut down and we're trying to avoid it as go forward. i think the problem is that we're getting more into a issue here about the border, border security, we need a total picture. if my democratic friends don't want a wall, what was the wall built in the obama administration. did they call it a wall or something else? we have to get past this and find a solution that works at
our border and gives us another way. you know, comprehensive immigration reform means comprehensive immigration reform. i would think that the president doesn't speak of comprehensive immigration reform, he speaks of a wall. >> he ran on it, but listen i like to take a moment here and this is the part that got us to the position where i believe the president in the past year has laid out clearly that he believed last year that we would be able to come to an agreement on border security and the wall and that barrier protection. we ended up not coming to that for many different reasons. i think when you look back at this overtime, we need immigration reform when you look at h 1bs, h2bs. you look at them from a bigger
perspective, most of those here illegally, not in documented status, came here on visas, and they stayed. >> that's a real problem. >> so let's begin to work on this. but i think part of it is that it is concerns for both sides. i have worked across the aisle before. my friends on the aisle have voted for a border wall in the past few bills that were put forward in january. most voted for continuation border walls. let's get off of semantics, and we flow is ways to get there, let's fix it. >> i'm so with you on this. i think one guy is caught up on semantics and it's the president. everyone else have conversations about them, people staying here
illegally after visas, but the president doesn't say those things, he hardly talks about h1bs, and he talks about drugs coming through the southern border, you know, they come in in a truck and container. >> let's be very fair here, the president is talking about a wall, but also my friends on the other side say i'm not giving him any money for a wall. there is semantics on both sides for those of us that want to find solutions, let's do the things we have found in the past. something that many democrats have voted for, done it before, and to claim that the wall is immoral or things like that, it can't be immoral to build a wall if you're not advocating for taking down the current walls. but we have a semantic issue. i think you and i have agreed
here to find commonal si poi na. we can find common ground, we just have to get off of this topic and move forward. >> let's talk about the intel community, you were a chaplin in the united states air force. your safety and the mission you were on depends on intelligence. are you troubled by the presidents willingness to agree on the consensus estimates of his community on what constitutes threats to the military. >> i am always concerned. the president said he disagrees with some of the statements from yesterday. they were laying out a over view picture. we know north korea is back actors, but what else he is trying to say as well is most people were saying don't talk to north korea, but he talked to
north korea and we don't have missile launches any more. i understand what they're saying, but we're in such a different position right now i think that sometimes we miss some of the successes while we're still talking about the fact that it is still a dangerous world. the differences are real. i understand what happened when they gave the testimony, i understand the desire to emphasize the things still working. those are things that those of us that served understand, and we'll see this come through. i believe we're understanding the advice they gave yesterday and that is what they need to be giving. >> do you think she open to their advice? he tweeted a lot of things today that says he is not. he said middle age intelligence should go back to school, when it comes to iran, the interference in the election, he seemed to say the opposite? >> i think what he said, and i won't get into anyone else's mind on what they may tweet or
their motive, but i believe in talking to the administration officials, including the president, i think the disconnect is that he does not ever deny problems in the world. he is saying let's also focus on things we improved upon including a picture in which we may disagree. >> congressman, if i ever do anything wrong, i'm going to look to you to stick up for me because you're good at that. thank you for sharing your ideas with me. congressman doug collins. thank you. >> howard schwartz is threatening to shake up the parties and run as a third party, despite being independent and enstris not being the same thing. i'm going to talk to someone that says 23 he runs it would be reckless idiocy.
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as the 2020 field gets more crowded, 56% of registered voters say they definitely won't vote for trump next year and they will have plenty of options to choose from. so far seven democrats announced they are running. more than a dozen others could also jump in including former new york city mayor mike bloomberg. he said it is no secret that i looked at an independent bid in the past. i faced exactly the same decision now facing others who are considering it in 2020 the great likelihood is that the independent vote would split the anti-trump vote and reelect trump. but howard schultz says he might run as an independent. >> can you imagine, given the fact that it has never been done
before, that if an independent person like myself, a rags to riches story that came from the projects, that is successful, could possibly become president of the united states and have a mandate from the american people that is a powerful message to congress that says "we want change? >> there is a lot to take apart there. my next guest is pleading with howard schultz not to run. it would be wreckly idiocy. she is not holding back. i didn't know you had such a strong opinion on him runs. >> my main argument is the one that michael bloom beberg is making. he has no path to winning, but he has a path to reelecting donald trump. it was the same for people ril
r ralph nader and jill stein. there are ways to change the way we conduct elections but you have to do the work of making that change and making those investments as o popposed to ju thinking if we all believed strongly enough we could overcome the laws ofarrhythm arithamitic. >> they believe that some will logically vote for him. >> it amazes me that somebody at his level in the world wouldn't do more research, at least a goog google search about who he thinks he is reaching.
he conflats independents with moderates. there are a lot of independents, but it doesn't follow that that they occupy the center. and that the center is not where he thinks it is. there are about 16% of the american people who say the two parties are too extreme, right? those people will would receptive maybe to the pitch he is making -- >> and some who identify as republicans and some that identify as democrats that might come -- you're growing on a base of 16% according to pew research. not 40. >> absolutely not 40. most people that identify as independents strongly lean toward one u par-- party or another. we have two independent senators and one is bernie sanders, right? >> who is a moderate according to most people.
>> right, and so the whole -- at the end it is just that i think this idea of that like, it is just common sense to be fiscally conservative, but socially liberal. this is common sense in certain areas of life. >> as you wrote in davos. >> it is a surprisingly unpopular political profile. >> and that profile is the idea that one is socially liberal. >> i think that, all of data shows that most people don't fit into that and it is shocking how few people don't dpit into that when you wrun much the numbers. i know a lot of people like that. people in the business world know even more people like that, but outside of some kind of privileged enclaves, itselfless popular than you would think.
>> it may be the latest attempt, discovery they shared with defense attorney appeared online in october of next year. tom winter joins me now with this. this is just broken, tom, you had a chance to make some sense of it. >> a twitter account in a has been suspended saying here is the discover and here is what robert mueller found as it relates to this case involving concurred management. and the special council's office said there was 300,000 file that's were posted at that time and over 1,000 files on the website that matched a unique #unique
unique # -- hashtag or unique file they shared with attorneys. we don't have a way of looking at it ourselves. they sat the fbi conducted a review and found no evidence of the u.s. government servers including those used by the special council's office involving the discovery files. further more prosecutors from mueller's office think this was an effort to discorreredit our ongoing investigations. it was either publicly available, internet memes and things we have shown on air, and that it was done and put out in the a way that was like "this is all we got. this is all the team came up with and we have all of the files and there is not a lot here. >> what is the implication that defense attorneys distributed
information that they shouldn't have. >> the central argument here is that they are saying you need share with us sensitive information that we can share with the people in russia. wement to be able to share that with those back there. the u.s. government is saying well if they want to as hong as that may unveil sensitive information as to how we found out what we found out in the first place. we don't want to have it set. that discovery information appeared online, but they answer that the legal firm provided it doesn't hold water.
they make that claim as well. so they're pretty clearly here ir circling the defense. they are defending them, that is normal, but saying that hey, the thing that we feared happened, that information leaks out the door and it is part of a disinformation campaign, and that is what the special council's office said this is coming from. this debate is going on. maybe ten people have read it and understandably because this goes around and around. there is a fair bit of news in here. >> tom winter, remember when president trump announce thad a $10 billion manufacturing facility was going to be built in wisconsin. that company, foxconn is reconsidering, scaling back, and possibly shelving those plans. we'll have the details when we come back, you're watching
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in wisconsin investing many, many billions of dollars right here in america and creating thousands of jobs. >> some people including yours truly thought that was nonsense at the time. now foxconn is changing their tune about bringing jobs to their future campus. they plan to bring mostly just engineers. they have huge factories in china where they make high phones, kindles, play stations, wisconsin put a lot of money into tax breaks and incentives for what was touted as good news for american manufacturing. they promised to invest $10 billion in 20 million square foot campus 40 miles south of milwaukee. the project would create 13,000 jobs. in exchange, and this is
important, in exchange, state and local governments promised $4 billion in tax create, road projects, utility costs, worker training, coming out to a cost of more than $315,000 per expected job. critics call it'd a coed it a c give away that would never result in the manufacturing jobs. the when and if they would see benefits from the deal, an analysis from the project says they would not generate profit for the state until 2042 at the ear earliest. according to the verge, the stay may not recoup any of that money until 2050 if ever. this is not the first time they have failed to follow through on their promises. in 2013 they promised $30 million in a plant in
harrisburg, pennsylvania and hire just 500 workers. that plant was never built. those jobs never game. joining us to take a closer look is dan coffman, the author of "the fall of wisconsin." dan, thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> this wasn't just a foxconn con, and many of us expected to to be even back then, it involved the governor of wisconsin and paul ryan. and the president. >> i think people were determined to come back to these areas. and people are desperate for good paying jobs despite the low unemployment figure in wisconsin. a lot of the jobs are low wage jobs without benefits.
but the problems were clear from the beginning and they became more clear and probably hurt government walkers reelection chances. >> 8% would be engineered. they cold the milwaukee sentinel that a third of the employees would be assembly workers and two thirds would be knowledge workers. then they say it looks like only 10% of employees would be assembly line workers and the others would be other high skill workers. foxconn makes the screens on these things in china. they want to replace low paid workers there with robots. why would we believe they want to go put high wage manufacturing jobs into wisconsin. >> there was no reason to believe it, you're right, they
have been replacing workers in china with robots. the idea they would pay american workers a decent age is ludicro ludicrous. this is also a company that became notorious for workers committing suicide at a do dormitory at a plant in china, and one of their responses was putting up safety nets. they have depositieply troubled rights record, and the state was overturning a lot of their environmental protections to make way for foxconn. the other thing that people forget is governor walker said there are safeguards to protect the state's money, but money has already been spent on high projects to help foxconn.
>> in the three months since the ground breaking, portions of the town have changed dramatically. prairie view drive marks one end of the construction. a black wind screen fence spratted a dust field from a new subdivision. >> they have been acting as foxconn realtor. and the deal that was sold to the state 13,000 jobs, now they're saying they might have 1,000 workers by 2020. so it keeps getting worse and i think that is the deal in the nutshell. it is interesting and unsurprising that this new announcement came after the election. >> interesting and unsurprising. that is a chartable way to look at it. i wonder when the story is told
about this if it will be viewed as scandalous. most of us could have figured out it was not likely to happen. the conservative conquest and the future of american politics. now to another topic, thousands of people have taken to venezuela to demand that nicholas maduro leave power. he called for people to stage peaceful demonstrations by stepping out of their homes and workplaces for two hours, he appeared at the protest in the capital. the visit came hours after president trump called him to show his support they also agreed to work on rebuilding the relationship between the two countries. last week giuido declared
himself the interment president. we are joined now by someone who has reported to us from the streets of her homeland, what are venezuelans thinking right now? >> there is several groups, right? nearly 300,000, many of whom i have spoken to that say they're supportive of what the trump administration is doing because many want to go back to their home country. there is also thousands that participated in their sit in that fey swrored what trump is doing because they say they need a change given the dire economic situation they're living through. then i have my sources in the government that see this as u.s.
interventionism. they put out a video today saying we do not want a vietnam in latin america. >> given the 23 years of my life that i spent there, we're navigating through uncharted territory. we have never gotten to this point and the u.s. has not lead the charge like this ever i would say in our history. >> thank you as always. joining us now to continue the conversation, shannon oneil. she a senior fellow for latin american studies and foreign relations. she is an expert on latin america. leadership there has been
squandering that nation's vast welt for some time. latin america is not being one that has contributed to stability in some instances. they are pushing various policies. what i say that is different about this time around in the recognition is that it is not just the united states. you see almost all of venezuela's neighbors. you see canada, the european union countries inching closer to denouncing maduro. it is not just a u.s. issue, it is a global issue and a western hemisphere issue. >> there has been talk recently about whether or not the united states would have sent forces -- some discussions about columbia, we don't know about that.
>> we heard trump over the last year say all options are on the table. military options are possible. when you look at venezuela, they're not panama or grenada. the other places that the u.s. invaded ppd if you're going to think about venezuela. it is a break you it u you bought it. and i don't see the impact on the united states. >> let's just talk about what you just described as how someone would describe a failed state. show venezuela fixable. i just want to remind people that it is one of the richest countries in the hemisphere.
and how do you get out of it? >> you have seen decline in this county they is just tremendous in the worst kind of way, just in the last few years the gdp of this country has riseen. inflation and you need a new government, you need an incredibility amount of help from the international community, and you need to have the basic blocks of a community and a society. one thing they have is they have the largest oil reserves in the world nap can be a blessing, but as we have seen with this government even others it is also a curse. it is a long road to a return to some of the prosp parit prosperd to have. >> thank you, shannon. with the council on foreign
relations. coming up, facebook cheated parents and kids out of hundreds and thousands of dollars targeting minors and letting them rack up huge game bills on their parents credit cards. cars before i had the shooting, burning of diabetic nerve pain these feet raised a bouncing boy and climbed the ladder in the hardware business. but i couldn't bear my diabetic nerve pain any longer. so i talked to my doctor and he prescribed lyrica. lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions, suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worse depression, unusual changes in mood or behavior, swelling, trouble breathing, rash, hives, blisters, muscle pain with fever, tired feeling, or blurry vision. common side effects: dizziness, sleepiness, weight gain, swelling of hands, legs, and feet. don't drink alcohol while taking lyrica. don't drive or use machinery until you know how lyrica affects you. those who've had a drug or alcohol problem may be more likely to misuse lyrica. now i have less diabetic nerve pain. ask your doctor about lyrica.
young as 13 for complete access to their data. the facebook research app provided users with a vpn or virtual private network that gave facebook access to everything on a user's phone, including private messages, e-mails, web searches, and internet browsing activity. now, vpns are not inherently bad. they're frequently used by people and companies to protect data but in this case, according to tech crunch, facebook was using them to collect the data of everyone who downloaded the app. facebook said it will no longer run the program on apple products and issued this statement, saying, "like many companies, we invite people to participate in research that helps us identify things we can be doing better. we've provided extensive information about the type of data we collect and how they can participate. we don't share this information with other people and people can stop participating at any time." okay, file that away for a minute. the second big headline, facebook knowingly duped kids and their parents out of money,
according to reveal, a website from the center for investigative reporting. it got ahold of records from a class action lawsuit showing how the site allegedly targeted children to make money from online games like angry birds, petville, and ninja saga. the document shows how facebook employees referred to kids as, quote, whales, which is a phrase you might know from the casino, the gambling industry, which refers to big spenders. they also suggest that kids -- the site ignored solutions that would have prevented kids from accidentally making those purchases. facebook declined to answer specific questions from reveal but satid in a statement, "we routinely examine our own practices. related to purchases made by minors on facebook." i'm joined bid ty the reporter broke the story. nathan, thank you for joining us. i want to just read something from your report. it says, "early in the afternoon
of july 8, 2011, tara stewart sent a message to her colleagues at facebook. it was full of internal jargon" and i want to show our viewers what this says. if the devs are really concerned about the cbs and not refunds, it could make sense to start refunding for blatant ff minor. i want to go through that with you because that one sentence says a lot about what facebook was up to and what it knew. what are they talking about there? devs, cbs, and ff minor. >> yeah, the devs are the game developers and the cbs are chargebacks. when a parent finds out their kid has lost all this money, they try to get money back from facebook, and if facebook says no, which they often did, then what they have to do is turn to their credit card and get a cbs, a chargeback. they basically have to say to the credit card, please help us get our money back. and what ends up happening, if a company begins to get a lot of
chargebacks, the credit card company will begin to suspect that something's afoot and will actually put the company in sort of some sort of probationary program, typically if you have chargebacks of about 1% you're going to get dinged. >> and the interesting part in there, i want to put that back up on the screen for a second. they referred to blatant ff minor. what does ff stands for? >> ff is friendly fraud, and the minor part is children. so, basically, they're saying, this is their reference to saying, friendly fraud involving children. >> why do they refer to children as whales? >> that's a great question. that probably would have to be directed to facebook, but what they are saying is they've taken this term from the casino industry which, if you have a big spender, you know, somebody with millions of dollars and they're spending all kinds of dough in your casino, you call them a whale and facebook was calling children, 13, 14, 15 years old as whales. >> so the point is these kids
were playing a video game, maybe knowing or not knowing that their parents' credit card was connected because no 13-year-old has a credit card so this is their parents' credit card and their buying things like magic spells and secret swords and stuff like that. and they're racking up these major bills without really knowing. what was the issue? were the kids naive or was facebook not clear on the fact that they're spending real money, not fake video game money? what happened? >> yeah, i mean, what's incredible about the documents that we got our hands on is it actually shows the internal communications between facebook employees and their own surveys that showed they knew that kids didn't know they were spending money, that kids were accidentally spending money. some of these kids, they knew on, like, angry birds, they did a survey, the average age was 5 years old. and the parents didn't know that their credit card information had been stored nor that their kid could actually be spending money. nor does it often look like -- they even have in some of these
e-mails, the facebook employees know that it doesn't appear to kids to be real money so kids just think they're playing the game, pushing buttons and in the background, cha-ching, cha-ching on mom and dad's credit card. >> nathan is a reporter with reveal at the center for investigative reporting. president trump has repeatedly threatened to pull out of nato. at the world economic forum last week, i had the opportunity to speak with the former prime minister of norway, the current and 13th secretary general of nato and he emphasized the importance of mutual defense treaties and suggested that we don't think about them as us protecting other people but about others protecting each other. listen. >> what's your argument to those who push back against the strength of the mutual defense agreement? >> mutual defense, as we have in nato, is something very different than defending others, because actually, mutual defense means that we defend each other. so, nato is, of course, important for europe, based on
the principle one for all, all for one, we keep each other safe. but a strong nato is also important for the united states. it is a great advantage for the united states to have 28 allies, friends which always works together with them. china doesn't have anything like that. russia doesn't have anything like that. u.s. has. >> all right. today, i want to show you the markets. today marked a crucial day of crucial face-to-face trade talks between the u.s. and china, and ending the months-long trade war between the world's two largest economies. tariffs traded between the united states and china have hurt businesses and financial markets. last month, president trump and chinese president xi agreed to a truce with their governments now trying to come to a more long-lasting agreement. now, if no deal is reached by march 2, the u.s. will raise tariffs an $200 billion of u.s. imports but investors seem to think that things will go the right way, which is why markets
are enjoying a very, very strong day. i would like to put up those markets so i can show you what i'm talking about. two things. one is you can see the dow is in the green as is the saip&p and nasdaq all day. there was a sharp spike in the markets. that's after the federal reserve met today. this was one of those meetings where they could have raised rates but they didn't. the fed has suggested that it is going to take a break, the words it uses is that it will be patient with rate hikes in the future. that, of course, means that stocks are likely to perform better. stocks don't do well when interest rates go up because less risky investments actually start to perform better, so as a result of the fed saying it's going to be patient and may not raise rates in the near future, stocks are performing a lot better today. we've got a gain of, on the dow, of 1.5% and more than 2% on
nadel nasdaq. i'll see you tomorrow. thank you for watching. deadline white house with nicole wallace starts right now. hi, everyone, it's 4:00 in new york. before donald trump was at war with his own justice department and fbi over the russia investigation, he was engaged in a feud with his own intelligence agencies over their assessment of russia's role in the 2016 election. today, he has returned to that battle with a broadside against his intelligence community whom he called, quote, extremely passive and naive in an early morning tweet. that was over testimony given yesterday on the threat posed by iran. trump also suggested, without a hint of irony, "perhaps intelligence should go back to school." the intelligence community dealing with unprecedented challenges in the trump era, a president who disregards their expertise on the topics of russian meddling, the saudi crown prince, north korea, and now iran. also, a president who