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employees, and protections for transgender students have been rescinded. and the president did not publicly announce this or endorse it. >> a lot more serious in the last hour when we handed things out. >> are you back this afternoon or are you done? >> i'm done, i have other work to do, but i'm done with this part of my job. >> go home, it is snowing. >> know, we have to be here. enjoy your working afternoon on this snowy afternoon. enemy of the people is what
trump says is the "new york times." today the times directly replied to the president's twitter attack saying "we stand by our investigation which was rigorously reported and based on a review of controversial white house documents and interviews with current officials. and emphasizing the point again that their reporting came from white house documents and interviews with dozens of current and foreign officials. the president responded to the mueller report, that is expected to be completed and turned other to the justice department's newest attorney general, william barr, in the coming days. mr. president, should the mueller report -- >> that will be totally up to the new attorney general. s he is a tremendous man, a tremendous person that really respects this country and the justice department. that will be totally up to mim.
>> that will be totally up to him. let's start with hans nicohansn. it comes with media reports of him with andrew mccabe and now discussions about when the mueller report is going to be handed over to the attorney general. >> he is punting, right? what he is seaing is aying is u new attorney general. whatever the likelihood of what is submitted by robert mueller to the attorney general, is lyricly and the time line for that becoming public, all of that is unknown. for that we have the odd situation of president donald
trump not krcriticizing his attorney general. >> let's talk about this report and the attorney general. the president say it's will be up to bill barr about what happens to it. we're on the eve on someone getting this report. >> eve as a metaphorical expression, that is right. they say when mueller is done he gives a report to the attorney general and the attorney general can decides what gets sense to congress and to the president. the first thing is mueller sends his report to barr. at that point it is not row leased. and that was question should the mueller report be released while you're out of town next week. that will not happen, it will not be released, it may never be released. but whatever is made public is
down the road. mueller is sending his report to barr first, we're reporting that we expect this to happen -- we thought the window would open last week. mueller wanted to wait until mr. barr got into office and settle down a little bit, but it could happen really any day now, any day within the next -- it could happen tomorrow, friday, next week. that seems to be the general sense we are getting from officials. >> i'm 1994 decision about that has been made, they don't contemplate making the report public, and when he testified before congress in jan, william bar said it could be a report from him on the special council's office, but that is something they have to work out.
there is a couple reasons for that. that was an entirely different set of regulations. it doesn't exist any more. this was drawn up in it's wake and they don't contemplate that long report. i think we have to go through the next couple weeks as a process of getting our heads around the fact that this will not be like the star report and for many people it may be very unsatisfactory. and undoubtedly whatever the justice department sends congress will not satisfy many members and they will have to try to get it another way. can they force them, can they subpoena it, all to be determined. >> i, and i think a lot of americans, don't have an understanding of what happens below the attorney general, who the deputy attorney general is and what they do. we have a new guy comes in,
named jeffrey rosin. he is expected to replace rod rosenstein. what do we need to know about jeffrey rosin. are we going to need to know much about jeffrey rosin. >> no disrespect to him, but i think we will go back to regular order at the justice part where most people will never have heard of the deputy attorney dpr general. he is an experienced lawyer in private practice, he served at the same firm wherecticed once. under the second president bush, a well respected conservative lawyer here, someone bill barr knew, and i'm sure that's why the president announced his intention to nominate him and rod rosenstein will remain i believe until march to give some
time for anrderly tran decision. i don't know how long the confirmation process will take, but we're going back ai assume to a period of obscure deputy attorney generals. we believe now there might be something to indicate the mueller report may be coming out -- i don't know about coming out, being presented to the attorney general. >> the president is pushing back against report that's he is looking to push out an official in his intelligence community, dan coates. >> i have not even thought about it. sdwr but some officials are worried he is in ryan to be dismissed.
they say he has never seen coates coats as a trusted avisor. particularly with respect to reaching a disagreement, a disarmament agreement with north korea. take a look at what enraged coats on the worldwide threat assessment. >> we assess that north korea will seek to retain their wmd capabilities and is unlikely to give up nuclear weapons and capabilities because they're leaders view noouk luclear weap critical to regime survival. ellen, there is, i think safe to say, dan coats we have known for a long time. there is nothing about dan coats that should surprise anyone.
did the president just notice him? >> the relationship between dan coats and the president has not been that close. some say tense for awhile now. like gina haskill. there is not an easy relationship or trust there. and in particular as you noted, he is just giving his unvarnished assessment of the threats, and some of those happen to be at odds with the president's foreign policy goals on north korea, iran, and size. >> but none of this should be surprising. she a mainstream guy, public and foreign policy, we have been clear, he has not had a weird
departure from who he normally is. >> no, but when the news was -- when the hearing took place last month and you had a series of intelligence asian leaders, and she seen as the leader of them, and the headlines were that these chiefs wrs rebuere rebukit odds with the president, i think that did up set him. >> the president has continued to fume in this weed he said the former senator from indiana is not oil and not on the team. we have known this from the days of jim comey all of the way now through hr mcmaster. through john kelly, through rex
tillerson, the president's lens is not expertise, it's loyalty. >> that's right. he is willing and able to drop you or cut you. >> some worry that dan coats is a long time republican, the nontrump people in the administration are the adults in the room, and they're afraid he is now the most prom nant and senior guy considered not a trump u trump partisan. it is possible that trurp is just getting to him because he got rid of almost everyone else that is like coats? >> well, i don't know if that is the case, but i think it is true that some of these statements have gotten under the president's skin and it is not just what happened last month,
it is also something that sort of happened last summer at an aspen security forum when coats made a remark that was taken by the president as being a bit disrespectful or snide about trump's invitation to putin to come to the white house. >> let me just, i know what you're talking about. i got that, let's play that, this is andrea mitchell talking to dan coats, and she got a notice on her phone about this meeting with putin. >> we have some breaking news, the white house announced on twitter that vladimir putin is coming to the white house in the fall. >> say that again. >> vladimir putin coming to the white house. >> did i hear you right? >> yeah, yeah. >> okay. that is going to be special. >> i mean that was july.
has the president been fuming about this the whole time? >> i think it is something that sticks with, and he was willing to let it go, but then when you have that starting, it was brought back to his mind, and so probably a moment of, you know, candor, he spoke with a confidant and said he would like to maybe get rid of him, we know he has been considering it anyway. >> thank you, ellen, for your reporting. coming up next disney joins epic games pulling their youtube ad spending. we'll talk foreign policy and national security later in the hour, and andrew mccabe joining
nicolle wallace on deadline white house. e on deadline white house. so, i started with the stats regarding my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. like how humira has been prescribed to over 300,000 patients. and how many patients saw clear or almost clear skin in just 4 months - the kind of clearance that can last. humira targets and blocks a specific source of inflammation that contributes to symptoms. numbers are great. and seeing clearer skin is pretty awesome, too. that's what i call a body of proof. humira can lower your ability to fight infections. serious and sometimes fatal infections, including tuberculosis, and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection.
sexually expolice flicit of min. give me a little background into the story. >> there was a blogger who outlined this incredible teak neek that pedophiles were yusin that was incredibly elaborate. and it was people using the comments to use code cowords an overtime the algorithm would learn that they were interested in these other videos, so it was recommended more videos of people like preteens to people on you tube, and it was something that happens, if you only have an algorithm checking for this sort of thing, you're only going to get the stuff, people can get around it so ease cry. >> the algorithm was doing what it was supposed to do and it was
recommended pedophile videos to people who like pedophile videos. >> yeah, and advertisers, not just disney, but other ones like it, there was several other game companies that were -- these were prerolling before these videos, it was videos of children doing sexual suggestive things they didn't even know were sexually suggestive. >> a pre-roll ad before it, and this is not an old world where the ad agency sits and matches up content. they are putting them there. >> yeah, they think they're bulk buying videos targeted at teens, but it is not targeted at teens, it is targeted at people looking at --
>> is youtube says nay know how to stop it? >> they try always, that is the other thing, if you report them they get flags and pulls down. you have to be in that space to begin with. they're looking proactively to do that, there is not enough people, but you would not find this out unless you were in that space. yes they are trying to do a little bit, but they don't have enough human eyeballs on it. >> and these advertisers are pulling out like disney, they say i don't want my pre-roll going on the videos or a protest against you tube? >> i think it is both. >> there is a business there, they're creating their own streaming service, things like this, but they are protecting their brand and they should be. they're not interested in a disney ad rolling before a video with a teen involved in sexual acts. >> yeah, and if you do, if you see what happens, some of these
people will tell children to do a challenge, this was a thing reported last year by buzzfeed, they will tell them to do a challenge and they will load it up there, and on top of that ads are served. so it is really disgusting and there is not enough being done to stop it. >> all right, coming up next, hawaii congresswoman tuls tulsi gabbert has been krit sidsid -- criticized for comments she made recently and she wants to clear it up. e made recently and she wants to clear it up. >> tech: at safelite autoglass
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tulsi gabbard is one of the ten in the race. one of the few candidates with national security experience having served two tours of dirty in the middle east as a member of the hawaii national guard. she has a lot of criticism for her foreign policy views and actions including a meeting with bashir al assad. thank you for being here. >> aloha, good to see you. >> tell me why you took at meeting with bashir al assad. >> i did two tours, every day i was confronted with the heart wrenching cost of war. the cost on our troops, veterans, taking lives in the countries with people we wage these wars, spending millions of dollars that we need to address the needs of our people here at
home and understanding that as we wage these wars in countries like iraq, libya, and syria we're under mining our own national security because groups like isis and al qaeda continue to grow stronger and stronger. so in the name of peace, to pursue the cause of peace and security. we have to have the courage to meet with bhepeople who are potential adversaries or friends. >> how do you deal with the complexity of the idea that the sir y syrian regime would like them in the word, and the russians like that as well. they want everyone to think not just about the main problem here, isis or the them rants of al-qaeda and wrr narrative can sound like it fits that fair f
narrative. >> i'm interested in the truth and facts. since our government started working with saudi arabia, qatar, they started this regime change war, our enemy, al qaeda that attacked us on 9/11 has continued to grow stronger and stronger. this mission, this regime change war is counter productive to our interests. and it was more than ever before, al-qaeda is largely holed up in controlling idliw out being tou -- idlib. anyone that went off the terrorist groups, they were saying the united states would
attack them. >> what about the second role. people saying we noushould not protect bashir al assad. he open fired on people want wanted more rights, and many people with died at his hand, but he pears some responsibility for it and for some people all of it. >> she a brutal dictator, no question about it, a lot of people have suffered and our hearts go out to them. as we here in the united states look at what role we have or what role we should take, we have to understand that our
actions have not alleviated the suffering of the syrian people. we have seen it happen with gada gadahfi. the libyan people are now being old as slaves in open markets, terrorists are stronger there now more than ever. we have to be realistic and understand that most recently in the examples i gave as well as throughout history when the united states comes in and intervenes, launches these wars, topples these evil brutal dictators, it makes things worse for the people there and it costs millions of taxpayer dollars. >> do you think the same thing is happening in venezuela. that is what we're involved in.
regime change there that a lot of people think is right. do you day care the same view. >> in wrathen america, in particular, we have seen u.s. intervention and regime change using different tactics. and how it has ultimately resulted in more offering. more hard zip for the people in these countries. our heart goes out to the humanitarian crisis in venezuela today. but the answer to solving that crisis is not for them to come in from the touds deck take wou who should be the leader. >> they are heating up in a way that patterns 2016. one of the things that we're
finding is the russian prop da propaganda machine, they are developing an online support for your presidential run. how does that fit in with your goals. i'm sure you want support, but if it is the same people interveering in the 2016 election. >> i'll tell you what is concerning to me right now. we're at greater risk of nuclear catastrophe an ever before. increasing attentions between the united states and nuclear armed countries like russia and china we're fating a new cold war especially with president trump's withdraw from the inf trea treaty sparking a new arms race. we experienced it all too real,
we got a missile alert saying a missile was coming, seek shelter. >> this is the reality that we're facing, and so long as we continue to allow the new cold war and the new nuclear arms race to cannot. >> you're now running against bernie sanders, you once supported him. how from a policy perspective do you protect him especially from this side -- >> bernie is a friend. i wish him well. i'm not running against anyone, i'm running for the people of the country. the services they brint from the state legislature, the city council, the foreign affairs committee, armed services
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period. if people want to purchase private insurance on their own, that is fine, but we should make sure every american getting quality care they need. there is no reason for people who have pre-existing conditions and are sick, cannot get that. >> but you're not backing the green new deal? >> no, there is concerns i have with the vagueness of the language. fighting for clean air and water and we have to take serious action to address this climate crisis in front of us in the united states and working cooperatively and collaboratively with other countries in the world to really see change. >> we will follow your campaign
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okay, breaking just moments ago, the son of the candidate of the north carolina election said he warned his father about the ballots inconsistency. but the win was never certified. this week in a hearing that will decide whether or not to hold another election in the district, we heard explosive testimony. that man, this man, leslie mccray made more than $130,000 for his work in the 2018 election. this week they testified that dallas said just fill out incomplete ballots to vote for the republican candidate.
lisa is joining me now with the latest, tell me what the son has said. >> we're in day three and there is no doubt there was election fraud taking place at the hands of dallas. another thing is that every single person testifying is tieing to distance themselves from mccra yrk dallas. and one person that testified was andy yates. that was the perp eared by mark harris to run his political operation, and he also paid dallas for his efforts, and this is what andy yates had to say about dallas. >> were you ever aware that he
was paying individuals to collect ballots? >> no, man, mr. dallas told me he knew it was illegal to collect ballots and he told his workers it was illegal to collect ballots. they never would and he never touched or handled a ballot. i was shocked to find out that was not the campaign. if it had become aware to me, i would have cut off communication with him. >> he says he talked to dallas on a regular basis, and he paid him large amounts in indreamts
with no invoices. it is incredible testimony. as you mentioned in your lead, mark harris's son, john harris, said he warned his father about mccray dallas because dallas's candidate overperformed in the absentee ballot realm in these two critical counties. >> all of this is surprising, but at some point it will end and it is unclear what the result will be. someone will have to cross party lines, and to call for a new election some will have to cross party lines. >> that is exactly right, it is a five member board, for a new election they need three democrats and one republican. if they want to certify the race
they need to republicans and a democrat a come to that decision. if is a stalemate this is uncharted territory. there could possibly be lawsuits or perhaps the house of represents is the final stop. >> vladimir putin made his toughest remarks yet. he said russia will respond to any american deployment of short or intermediate range webs in europe. not just the countries where they are stationed, putin said they were not seeking confrontation, they would allege rub shan violations washington said they were suspending their only indications under the intermediate range forces
committee. they will develop new missiles. the pack banned missiles in europe. and there is a prospect of a new arm's race. and the new deal as the progressive the push to curtail ka carbon emissions. not quite, gentleman, we'll hear from cattle ranchers about how they're trying to be more environment tally sustainability. and a panel that could include a climate change denier. you're watching msnbc. denier. you're watching msnbc. [birds chirping] [brakes squealing]
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draws inspiration from president frank lin roosevelt's new deal program. the goal of the green new deal is to cut global emissions from 40% to 60% to 2010 levels by 2012 2030 and neutralize greenhouse gases entirely by 2050. it calls for an increase in renewable energy like solar and wind power to 10% today and 100% over the next decade. the plan would overall the nation's transportation sector, which they say is america's biggest source of politician and would invest in zero emission vehicles like electronic cars. beyond environmental concerns, the green new deal proposes a more suss sanable food system to make sure everybody has access to clean water and food. now there are disagreements over how to pay for it but at a rally
in texas, the president took all of what i just told you and turned it into this -- >> i really don't like their policy of taking away your car, of taking away your airplane flights. you're not allowed to own cows anymore. a lot of problems. >> in canada we have a word for that, i don't know if you use it in merg, it's called bs. that's not actually what the plan is about. i want to get the real story. we're going to amana, a farm in eastern iowa. i want to talk about the cars and that kind of stuff. but what is the president talking about with cows? >> the reference from cows, ali, comes from alexandria oscasio-cortez's congressional office put out essentially a fact sheet the day they announced the green new deal. it would say made reference to, well, we don't know if we will be able to rid the country of
farting cows in airplanes over the next ten years. the farmers when they read that and saw that, they saw that as a direct shot at their industry and blamed it on the agriculture industry. to be clear, there's no mention of the elimination of farting cows in the green new deal, the actual text resolution being voted on. but when you talk to folks on the ground, there's to certain extent a defensiveness because they say they view themselves as being very keen on sustainability. that's why they had their farming operations for generations. they say they understand in order to grow good corn, soybeans or cattle that is high protein, you need good nutrition. i want to introduce you to one of those individuals we talked to, brandy. she's down in kansas. we were there the other day with her. i want to let you hear what she thought about the green new deal. >> i'm a big proponent of the fact of the specific green new deal policy proposition says that the proponents wants to work with farmers and ranchers
to make as sustainable and work together. i'm supportive of that. i want farmers and ranchers to be part of that decision-making process and for us to have a voice in washington. >> there's 8% of greenhouse gas emissions here in the united states, about 8% come from agriculture industry. so the question is, how f. there is the opportunity to do it, how do you cut it back even more? you can't really stop the belching or farting of cows, ali. you can take a look specifically at these manure lagoons. essentially when you have the cows and they go poop, oftentimes they're put into lagoons, which emit a great amount of nothing. so i want to introduce you here to an operation in amana, iowa, it's one of three. they have feed lots, they do their business. it goes underneath slats and there's a pump that takes you over this way. that pump goes over here into buildings which is a digester. what happens inside of there is essentially that manure is
broken down. the meth age is extracted and that methane, ali, is then used to ultimately power the town of amana, which is a little ways away. there's 1400 people there as well as a manufacturing plant by whirlpool. so it's those cows, manure from those cows ends up being turned into electricity to essentially make an entire town run. the question is, though, it's expensive. that place cost about $6 million. that's why there's only three of them here. if we're talking about the green new deal and opportunities to present themselves, it's going to cost a little bit of money but there are opportunities. and when you talk to farmers, they want to be a part of it. >> there's never a moment i don't like talking to you but there are a lot of moments when i think you just maybe lost a bad bet or something and that's why you're on some of these stories but you do a fantastic job of it. i'm much smarter about the whole thing, including if you are worried about emissions from cows, it's actually belching that's mainly the problem.
things i learn. >> belching much more than farting, ali. >> let's hope this doesn't make it on top anybody's reel. vaughn hillyard, that's why we love to tape this show so we can edit stuff like that out. the debate over the green new deal comes as the trump administration continues to publicly question climate change. "the washington post" reports the white house is reporting to assemble a committee -- listen to this -- working to assemble a committee to assess whether climate change poses a national security threat, which is a conclusion repeatedly affirmed by the nation's intelligence agencies. this comes weeks after the director of national intelligence dan coats identified climate change as a significant security risk. he said in written testimony, extreme weather events in a warmer world have the poem for greater impacts and can compound with other drivers to raise the risk of humanitarian disasters, conflict, water and food shortages, population migration, labor short falls, price shocks
and power outages. those are just some of the long-term effects "new york" magazine and deputy editor david wallace-wells outlines in his new book "the uninhabitable earth: life after warming." david joins me now. i just want to start with a quote from the book, in which you say it is worse, much morse than you think. the slowness of climate change is a fairy tale, perhaps as pernicious as the one who says it isn't happening at all and comes to us bundled with several others in an anthology of comforting delusion u.s., that global warming is antarctic saga unfolding remotely that is strictly a matter of sea level and coast lines and not an enveloping crisis sparing no place and leaving no life undeformed. that it's a crisis of the natural world, not the human one. i only read that because there's such nonsense going around starting at the white house, convening a panel to challenge
studies that are definitive about the increasing and remarkable dangers of global warming. >> and a lot of that great research is actually being done by the defense department. for a generation, it's been the pentagon that's been most concerned with american government about climate change because they understand just how dramatically it could destabilize the entire global order. >> this isn't just about coastal military installations getting flooded. they're talking about all of that stuff coats just talked about, real problems. >> yes, it wasn't solely by that but a factor. and we're looking at the possibility of a global climate refugee crisis perhaps 100 or 200 times as big. they are the u.n.'s projections. this may be a little high. >> but it will be much bigger than the one we have now. so if we can't politically handle refugees showing up at our shores now, if we can't
handle climate change, we'll have a lot more >> that's for sure. and you will have the best influx when there are knew numbers and when the numbers get bigger, the society gets more welcoming. i hoping that is where the world goes over the next few years as we become more comfortable with the idea of refugees, we embrace them around the world more. >> you also write about how people perceive climate change, the perception of global warming is what the problem is. people understand weather relatively well and i don't know if the president just doesn't get it or he gets it and his tail is being wagged by someone else. but the fact is, weather and climate are different things. we perceive of liemt with more difficulty than we perceive with weather. >> yes e. and that's been a problem for a long time, although i say i think it's changing. you look at the polls over the last year. over 70% of americans believe climate change is real and happening. more than 70% are concerned about climb change. those are numbers that jumped
15% since 2015 and 8% since march. so the public actually understands this issue in a way our politicians don't. >> do you think they don't or do you think there are interests causing them to say that they don't? >> i think it's a combination of the two, but i also think there's now just over the last few years great economic research suggesting that the cost of inaction on climate will be so much bigger than the cost of action. >> let me just put up -- i want my control room to put up full screens to talk about the impact of global warming. let's look at some of these thing that's will happen. finish your thoughts. sorry about that. >> the economic research, used to be conventional wisdom action on climate would be very expensive and we would have to forego economic growth to do it. now all of the economic research suggests the cost of inaction are enormous. we could save $26 trillion globally by 2030. so the payoffs will be very quick. i don't think that information has yet percolated up into the minds of policymakers but i think it will soon and when it does, our policy will change.
>> if your lips to their ears, thank you, sir, david wells, author of "the uninhabitable earth." it's out now and good read. and tomorrow, weaponization of culture, 5:45 p.m. on the asia society. that you for watching. "deadline: white house" with nicolle wallace starts right now. hi, everyone, it's 4:00 in new york. nine days in may. there are nine days at the center of every question about the future of donald trump's presidency. nine days when the fog of the war donald trump was waging against his own fbi and justice department, tested some of the decision making and civility of the people in his line of fire. nine days at the center of questions about whether fbi director jim comey was fired to obstruct the investigation into donald trump's ties to russia. nine days when questio