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tonight on "all in" -- >> mr. cohen, should the president be worried? what evidence do you have of tonight on "all in." >> mr. cohen, should the president be worried? >> the man who kept donald trump's secrets begins telling what he knows. >> the man doesn't tell the truth and it's sad. and i should take responsibility for his dirty deeds. >> reporter: tonight congressman adam schiff of on what he expects to hear from cohen. and the house republican already threatening the witness. plus my exclusive interview with a former trump campaign staffer accusing the president of sexual harassment. plus judiciary chairman nadler on the street block donald trump ffs border emergency, putensh alperjury from whitaker and today's family separation hearing. >> did you ever say to the administration this is a bad idea? >> i did not say those words. and why donald trump only
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falls for certain dictators. >> and then we fell unlove. >> when "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york. the long-time personal attorney and fixer to the president of the united states just wrapped up over nine hours of closed door testimony before the senate intelligence committee and he made his very first remarks on the way out of that marathon session. >> at this point in time i really appreciate the opportunity to clear the record and to tell the truth and i look forward to tomorrow to being able to tell the american people my story and i'm going to let the american people decide exactly who's telling the truth. >> reporter: michael cohen will testify in public before the eye oz of the world and the house oversight committee giving a full account for the first time since pleading guilty to campaign finance crimes for facilitating the president's hush money payments in the run
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up to the election. he begins serving a three-year sentence for those charges in may. few people outside the president's family have had expoexer as michael cohen. a lawyer, who was officially disbarred today in new york state has been involved in just about every trump operation now under investigation. and that includes the president's inaugural committee, the trump organization and plans for a trump tower moscow developed during the presidential campaign. cohen is planning to spill the beans about all of it tomorrow with the eyes of the country watching him. who's planning, according to a knowledgeable source. he will allege the president deflated and inflated the net worth to avoid paying taxes. he'll outline what he calls the president's lies, racism and cheating in his private business and accuse the president of
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committing a crime while in office related to those hush money payments to stormy daniels. cohen plans to bring records to back up his claims. the "wall street journal" reports cohen will bring documentation he claims proves he was reimbursed for his payment to stormy daniels in the form of checks, some signed by donald trump who was, by the way, president at the sime. none of the claims should come as a surprise. the president's racism has been evident since he headlined the birther movement. his shady business practices have been widely reported. he's already identified as individual one, who master minded the hush money payments. but there's a giant difference about reading about his conduct and getting a comprehensive account straight from a first-hand witness on camera.
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it could help crystallize those incremental news bits from all the investigations. and after tomorrow, he wrr be back for a third day thursday, testifying before closed session in the house intelligence committee. the allies are already trying discredit cohen, painting hymn as a liar, which he is. according to the special counsel's office, the information cohen gave them was found to be credible and cohen has said he is done protecting the president. >> he knows the truth, i know the truth. others know the truth. and here is the truth. the people of the united states of america, the people of the world don't believe what he's sawing. the man doesn't tell the truth and it's sad. and i should take responsibility for his dirty deeds. >> so you're done with the lying? >> i'm done with the lying. i'm done being loyal to president trump. >> congressman adam schiff
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chairs one of the committees that will get a chance to question mr. cohen this week where he will testify behind closed doors thursday. what are you expecting and looking forward to tomorrow and thursday? >> we're certainly hoping in the testimony in both days to get the full facts from michael cohen in our committee. of particular interest in the false statements he made. does it go beyond what he testified to in terms of the moscow trump tower deal? who was aware that he was going to come and testify falsely? was he given encouragement to do so? just the allegation surrounding the trump tower in moscow are quite damming. and i find them really staggering when you sit back and think candidate donald trump while running for president, while denying any business dealings with the russians was seeking to make the most lucrative deal of his life and
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seeking the kremlin's help. that is deeply compromising, whether it's criminal or not, it's deeply compromising. so we intend to explore that. we intend to explore issues of obstruction of justice and other light he can shed on the russia investigation. so we have a lot of questions for mr. cohen. >> i should note prosecutors have already said that cohen discussed the status and progress with vinyl one, which is the president on more than three occasions. he briefed family member within company about the project. now that he has pleaded to lying about the specifics here, do you anticipate you will get the full story from him? do you believe you can trust him as a credible sfwhns > > i think he's made the decision to come clean and it's interesting to watch the people around the president and including the president attack him for essentially making
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retribution for deciding to cooperate with authorities to tell the truth. they would much prefer he kept on lying i suppose but as former prosecutor who has dealt with witnesses that is have been dishonest in the past, you always look for corroboration. you don't rely sole lay on the testimony. so one of the things we'll be asking about when he makes different statements is what documentary evidence exists? what conversations did you have? were they by phone? in person? who else was present? all the foindational kbegzs that allow you to do follow up and corroborate what the witness has to say. >> he finished today on the senate intelligence side. how much interaction between your two committees? they're both in the gang of eight. do you talk to them after a day like today? do you debrief at all? >> there's certainly some
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interaction but they're two distinct investigation. obviously there's a lot of overlap with the schedule of witnesses. but they are quite separate vgszs and that is also true of the special counsel's investigation which brings up another timely issue and that is you have the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein suggesting maybe they shouldn't share with congress their country the full report and what it has to say about people not indicted. the justice department was sharing hundreds of thousands of pages of discovery in the clinton email investigation and we are not about to allow them to have some kind of a double standard, particularly when there is such intense public need know and in addition to that f the department is 250 maintain a policy you can't indict a sitting president, cannot also say and we're not going to share with congress the evidence that would allow you to
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consider whether otherdies are necessary. >> i want to make sure i'm clear on this. you togged about his previous testimony. of course there was this wieltd 24 hours in come "buzzfeed" said the president directed him explicitly to lie, its timeline was knocked down by the special counsel's office. do you intend to ask about that under oath? >> we certainly do. we want to know why me made the false statements he did. who was aware that he was going to testify to this? after all, there were public written copies of this testimony before he came in. were those vet would people in the white house or elsewhere and so absolutely. now we don't know how much of the "buzzfeed" report was true or false but there is a story that we want to hear and we want
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to hear the truth and we'll certainly be asking about that. >> the house intelligence committee, thank you very much. i'm joined by tw people with inside knowledge. author of the book "trump nation" and the winner of season 4 of "the apprentice." co author of "black faces in white places. i saw reporting -- he's unvietnam, will be staying up all night to watch cohen's testimony. i got to think he's worried about this >> of krs he is this is reality tv. he's aware of the power that it has on people's imagination. it's much different than reading about it in a newspaper or seeing in a court filing, someone on tv telling a narrative of something that occurs and resonates with people in a rich way. of course he's worried about it.
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>> and i would echo what you said earlier. this is the first time we've heard from somebody that close to his inner circle with insight around his business, comments on race, around his dealings boigt in the trump organization and in the white house as well. and this guy went from 2006 until 2018. that's a long run. a lot of information. and while we've heard from others in the inner circle, it specifically omarosa, this is the first person who has had extensive insight to all those matters. >> you just mentioned race. and there was this story that cohen told, emily jane fox. he said i told that the rally looked vanilla on television and trump responded black people are too stupid to vote for me.
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in your mind does it make a difference to hear that from him under oath than the various thinks we've seen him say in person that are obviously pretty bigoted and racist? >> i don't think it's going to make a difference for people who have already formed their opinion on donald trump. what the might influence is people -- the thing i've learned from omarosa and michael cohen is this sense that i should have done more while i was in that trump inner circle and say i am seeing the same shady behavior. >> shakes them loose. >> or i might end up in the same place michael cohen's going. >> this is the thing that blows my mind and what curtains up on tomorrow. mr. cohen will provide documentation for the $130,000 clifford payment.
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he will show ethe panel a signed check. mr. cohen began receiving after mr. trump took office. that's the president signing checks on an illegal hush money scheme. >> and denying any role in any of it prior to that and since then. he's never copped to the fact that he was in the oval office signing hush money payment checks. it speaks to how flagrant the corruption in this administration. this is the most financially conflicted administration in the modern presidency. they refuse to separate themselves from the business interests. but this is trump reaching into his personal checking account, by the way. the family accountant said the chucks would be cut from the president's personal fund.
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so he's reaching essentially into his own bank account to pay his lawyer to keep someone quiet about an affair while his wife was pregnant with their son. >> the guy's the president. he's sitting in the white house with weiszal burg brings him the checkbook? for the love of god. >> we won't get into russia publicly. but just that one example of what's been leaked, cohen has documentation on what we know to be shady dealings and can have documentation to back it up and take the veneer off this facade that he's been as successful as he claims to be. the house of cards is going to come tumbling down. >> michael cohen opens door that other people who have been there even longer. the accountant was fred trump, donald trump's father's accountant.
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he handles all of trump's personal income tax returns. he has signed at most important checks that have gone through. he know where the bodies are buried. >> talked to the southern district of new york. we knee flat a fact. he also will lend new urgency to the tax question. it will be interesting to see if there's new urgency. next. johnson in her own words. my exclusive interview with a former trump campaign staffer alleging he forcibly kissed her. she tells her story right after this. she's doing it again. (vo) no cover up spray here... cheaper aerosols can cover up odors, burying them in a flowery fog.
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alvin johnson was an enthusiastic staffer. but she says august 24th, 2016, then candidate, donald trump forcibly kissed her as he exited an rv while on the campaign trail. it also alleged the campaign paid her less than her counterparts because she's a black woman. sarah sanders called the sexual misconduct allegation absurd on its face and said it's contradicted by multiple highly credbible eye witness accounts. there are in fact three people who say they were present and deny johnson's claim. but the claim is not absurd on
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its face. the conduct johnson described is the same conduct the president himself bragged about on the infamous hollywood access tape that came out three weeks after the incident. and 15 other woman who accused them of kissing him and touching their body without consent. and thank you for coming. >> thank you for having me. >> before we get to august 24th. i want to ask how did you get on the campaign? what motivated you to be a part of the trump campaign? >> i thought it would be good to have a businessman in office. there were still 16 other republican candidates. so i didn't think he really had a chance of win withing. but i felt it would be good to support a businessman. i thought would be needed. >> and what was your experience before this happened as you allege in august?
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>> i started out as the director of out reach coalitions for alabama. i threw one of the largest rallies. thrs 33,000, yes. >> i sat here at the desk and you covered it live. >> i felt i helped legitimize him because of successes like that. and afterwards i travelled to various states during the primaries. i was in indiana, wisconsin and i helped secure delegates and help win indiana which gave him the gop nomination. >> tell us what happened to you the day you allege the president forcibly kissed you? >> like i always like the make sure volunteers are the ones that get to spend that time with them. they're the ones making the phone calls. so i was in the corner. wab i wasn't close to him and wearing a baseball cap.
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he had to pass me on his way exiting the rv. i said go and do a good job because i've bun away from my family for a long time and he stopped and he starts looking at me and then as he's looking at me, he's holding my hantd. he said i'm not going to let you down. i know you've been away from your family. and he's holding my hand and starts coming towards me and so and y78 rr like is he going to hug me? and then he keeps coming closer and i'm like is he going to hug me? and he was coming directly for my face. and he's going to kiss my lips.
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he caught me right in the corner of my mouth and i was just kind of frozen. i didn't know how to process it. i worked in human are sources. so i knew it was completely inappropriate, gross and creep a. i can sometimes still see those lips which -- and so he walked out and >> were there other people around at that point? >> yes, there were two other women still on the rv. there was only three women on the rv. and so -- >> this is inside the rv? >> inside. most of the volunteers had filed out because they had to for him to exit. >> was there any debrief? any eye contact exchanged after that? >> he looked at me like and and i didn't feel that way.
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i was just really stressed out. >> pam bondy says the following. i -- had i seen anything improper i would have take action. i was with the president in the rv and these allegations are false. >> i wish she would have taken action. no, that's not true. >> i guess my question is how much of this resonates with you? was it something you felt like i immediately need talk to supervisors? was a creepy thing you kept to yourself? >> so afterwards like i didn't know how to process it. i didn't know what context to put it in. so i went on with my job. i with pushed it to the back of my head. you second guess yourself. i'm wearing a u-neck t-shirt a baseball cap, jeans. so i didn't know how -- how to
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contextualize it. >> and fast forward six weeks after that. so the access hollywood tape comes out. the president says i just start kissing women if i'm attracted to them and then a number of women make on-the-record accusations about similar unwanted sexual contact. what's going through your head when you hear that? >> so when i 3rd audio, i mean i was screaming at my car. iumler like that's exactly what he did to me. he literally described exactly what he did to me, minus the grab the "p." i can't help it. i don't ask. and so for me it solved the questions. you kind of second guess and it solved every question i had about the intention.
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it solved every intention about the amount of inappropriateness that it was and i never went back to work. >> after that. >> i never went back to work and i had never missed a day before then. >> did you give an explanation? >> i was afraid. i was afraid. like the campaign was still going on and so i just -- i just told them i wasn't coming back and they sent me a letter terminating me although i quit. >> but that was the breaking point? >> yes. >> you saw the access hollywood tape. fwlauz are women coming forward, do you think about doing that yourself? >> i immediately found a lawyer and a couple of days after access hollywood i spoke to a lawyer who found me very credible. i was down in florida. i was living in campaign housing that my boyfriend and i went in
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and got all of our things, left the keys on the dining room table. and found alternate housing thatty with paid for. and so i found an attorney right afterwards. for business reasons he didn't move forward my case and so at that point, james comey has the breaking news and so i'm down in florida crying my eyes out, listening to solange and breaking news is they're reopening the hillary clinton investigation. so i became terrified because it shifted the momentum and i'm like he might actually win this and i'm thinking what am i go doing? sue the president? i became scared. >> you talk to people contemporaneously? >> i called people immediately
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when i was driving from tampa back to our office in sarasota that day. i never waited. >> your boyfriend? >> my boyfriend, my parents. i called them and i remember being on the phone with my parents and driving from tampa back to saurau sotau. i had to pull off of the interstate. yes, i told people like immediately the same day that happened. we're sitting here in 2019. to people that look at that lag between that and now and you gave an interview in 2016 where you praised the president. i think you applied to work in the white house at some point. what do you say to them when they look at that and are confused? >> i'm under a nondisclosure. i felt my vocal cords had been clipped for years. you're not supposed to criticize
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him, criticize the family. you're not suppose toads criticize the campaign. you cannot criticize his business. it's used as a weapon against us. and so i had no representation. at the point he's become the president i'm like let me move on with my life and i'm a regular person is how i feel about things. i live in a very red state. and it becomes overwhelm withing and you don't know what to do and in the meantime you see charlottesville happen. i start to develop a lot of guilt because i feel like i legitimized him. i worked for the campaign for a very long time. then you have the babies in cages. and i felt like i never signed up for things like that. sorry. sorry. i never signed up for that and then you have him mocking women with the #me too movement,
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making fun of them and i'm sitting there and i'm like this is exactly what you did to me and i don't want to keep my mouth shut. i want my voice back. i want my freedom to speak freely without the fear or at least without the people surrounding me that will help me fight this. >> what do you see happening next as you pursue this? obviously the president -- the white house has denied it and they're going to try to get this thrown out. he's tlr president. how commitred you to pursuing this? >> i am going to fight. like i'm not giving this up. if i was going to give up, i would have a long time ago. i never gave up, i just didn't know what to do. i didn't know what teels do but i am not giving up. i will fight this because he seems so proud of his misogyny
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>> did you see that on the campaign? i think there are some people probably watching this saying wasn't that clear to you who this guy was and what he did and was all about? and he came down the escalator saying mexico is sending rapists and talked about how hot his daughter was on howard stern >> which is gross but there were 16 people in the race. we still had jeb bush. there was no way that i absolutely even felt he had a legitimate chance. >> this was just a sort of thing do do? >> no. it wasn't just a thing to do. i feel like i can contributed a lot. >> no, i'm not saying -- >> i had skillsets i brought that table. but i didn't think he had a legitimate chance of winning. and at the point he became the nominee and i'd been on the campaign for so long and i wasn't around him as much as the people.
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i liked working with the people. i helped build the offices and things like that. and so i didn't think that he was going to win. >> that was not your first interaction with him, am i correct? >> yes. >> i had two other interactions. >> and what were those like? >> the first time i met him was in birmingham. it was before i joined the campaign. you have to meet him so that you can join the campaign. so i remember walking towards him and he's like oh, fantastic. fantastic. beautiful. beautiful. and so for me when i immediately reached him, it felt like a longer walk than it was because of the comments. when i reach him i immediately tried to divert his attention like by the way i'm coming on board to work with you. i didn't feel i would still have
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to endure anything like that now that y78 rr an employee and i was an employee of the campaign. and i was only around him one other time. it was legitimately about the volunteers and the people sacrificing their time. so anytime he was around t was more important for me too, have their time with him than me myself. i never -- i was never running up behind him. >> part of the lawsuit is about differential pay, both because of your gender and race. did you know that that time? what caused you do pursue that avenue? >> this is another reason why i will not stop is i had absolutely no idea i was being so grossly underpaid compared to people who had similar jobs or less responsibility. there was a kid and he took a
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permanent job during the general election and with me 20 years of work experience from private sector but i was rock star on the campaign. >> why do you think race or gender was a part of that? >> because thankfully i have great lawyers now who have looked to see what other people are making compared to what i was making and there's no other excuse. if my job performance didn't -- wasn't so great, then they would not have constantly asked me to travel from stiet state. i was on the road from march until october. away from my family. there are other people on staffers who were not invited to travel.
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and so they put me in some of their most important primary states. i don't know how to quantify the fact that i was so grossly underpaid. >> final question for you. you're now public. you're here talking to me, you're on camera. your name is out there. are you prepare or worried about being someone that he and his supporters will likely publicly attack? >> i know that they will and i just have to be tough. i'm not going to back down from this fight. you're not going to underpay me and you're not go tooling physically violate me. my opportunity to move forward in court is also the opportunity for the other 20 plus women who have accused him of physically violating their space. i think women deserve to be paid the same men are being paid and i was -- like, i'm not going to look at my family. ib have children. i cannot look my children in the
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eyes knowing that i've been treated this way and not fight for myself. so i'm in this fright the long hall. >> former campaign staffer for the president now suing the president of the united states. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back.
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another crucial day on family separation.
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came as newly revealed documents allege thousands of migrant children in u.s. custody were sexually abused over a four-year span. the trump administration's former refugee director who says the buck stops with him faced a withering line of questioning >> did you ever consult with any mental hilgt professionals on how to implement family separation? >> there's nothing surprising about the determination that there could be mental health consequences to sep raegz from a parent for any period of time. it's something we took under advisement. >> isn't it true you instructed your staff to seek abortion from meeting with attorneys, lawyers to get advice? >> okay. so there is one instance where we said that there was -- >> so there was a yes? >> in one instance we said in a brief period of time -- it
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wouldn't be appropriate to meet with an attorney at that point. >> did you ever say this is a bad idea? here's what my child welfare experts have told us. we need to stop this policy? did you once say that to somebody above you? >> i did not say those words. >> congressman jerry natdler of new york. there questions about whether matthew whitaker purgered him pfl i want to start with the family separation policy. >> we learned first all of that consequences of total lack of oversight by the republicans over the last few years that the trump people thought they could get away with everything and we learn odof the absolute contensh ws attitude that some of these people had towards the people in their care that they didn't care at all about the welfare of the children that they were perfectly happy in the service
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of a policy to scare people away from claiming asylum to tear babies out of the armess of their parents. they didn't care about the effects on the babies. we learned scott lloyd who used this position as head of reugee resettlement to personally monitor and discourage teenagers from getting abortions, never talked to his superiors or anyone else about tearing babies out of the arms of their mothers. he only cared about stopping abortions. and we learned most of all the necessity for keeping a spotlight on what these people are doing because they cannot be trusted not to torture children. on scott lloyd f you were to assess his ability to do the job based on what you know, what would you say? >> i would say rafrts one, if that much.
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he had no experience in the area. he was an antiabortion zealot and these are his credentials to put in charge of the whole refugee program, which is insane. >> whitaker obviously came before your committee. there with questions about whether the interfered in any way. he seemed to knock that down. and there's now some question about whether he purgered himself. they believe they have evidence president trump acted at the time could regain control. and mr. trump's former lawyer according to people particular with the matter, what are you going to do about it? >> he wasn't completely forth rite on that and a couple of other things. come back in front of us and to try to clarify these matters.
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>> will that be voluntary like the last time and he told you your time was up? at the moment it's voluntary and could be compulsory. we're work on day to come back and we'll see what happens from there. >> michael cohen is chair the house oversight committee. you served for a while, been the minority and the majority. matt gaetz, who's an out spoken advocate for the president tweeted hey, michael cohen do your wife and father unlaw know about your girlfriends? no evidence. maybe tonight would be a good time for that chat. i wonder if she'll remain faithful when you're in prison.
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i hope she learn as lot. have you ever heard of a member making a statement like that? >> i'm not going to waste time responding to every stupid thing matt gaetz says but it does remind me of the president talking to fox news and in effect threat eetenning michael cohen's father in law and that came close if it didn't cross the line into witness tampering. and chairman cummings to the president and warning against witness tampering and other improper actions. "washington post" reporting trump organization asked the house committee to cease investigations. and they reproduced a letter. your response? >> it's nonsense. we've retoned on contract two very good people. to help us with our investigations of the what's been going on and they've been
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vetted very carefully on ethics and the cramer leaven law firm wrote a letter in efengt dismissing it. it was just nonsense. >> coming up, the president lands. and north korean dictator.
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breaking news tonight out of north carolina in a story that we have been covering closely on "all in." mark harris, the republican in the center of the election fraud scandal says he will not run again in a new election. harris led by 905 votes in november. but allegations of fraud very quickly emerged. irregulateties people started to put together. last week harris's own son
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testified before a state stated that he had warned his dad about dallas he was convinced had previously broken the law and harris after spending the last several months with the north carolina gop demanding he be seen in congress was forced to call for a new election. now the ninth district will get the chance to elect someone else, maybe the democrat from last year's race who is running again however turns out the district will be without rep representation for several more months.
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on the same day he touches down for a summit in vietnam, there is a saying kim jong-un who had his brother murder in an airport is a normal, well-adjusted dude. it's weird the way the president talks about the dictator that works people to the bone in prison camps where they are sexual assaulted and starved to death. >> i was really being tough and so was he. we were going back and forth and then we fell in love, okay? really. he wrote me beautiful letters, and they are great letters. we fell in love. >> diplomacy is necessary for the sake of productive dialogue and non-violent resolution of conflict but that cool-headed evaluation was not the position of the trump administration itself back when it was threatening nuclear war with north korea. remember around the south korean olympics when trump and allies
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tried to paint the dangerous rhetoric as morally bankrupt including pillaring the media's olympic coverage. they are attempting the run the same play escalating threats against venezuela. if you don't think they should have a conflict with nicolaus ma madura and must behave like a normal country and respect its people. okay, forth korea is a normal country? about "the washington post" columnist death? u.s. foreign policy has always been shot through with this but the trump era made it all even more absurd. here to try to make sense of this, columnist and senior contributor to "the intercept." it's always been the case the
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u.s. will in the same breath condemn some human rights abuses by adversaries and look the other way with allies. this version seems even harder to make sense of as a whole. >> as anything to do with trump, it's hard to make sense of his decision and we have an administration you said in your introduction is kissing up to north korea, no love with north korea while also saying we hate venezuelaens and it's bizarre and makes no sense. it's inconsistent and inexplicable. he doesn't have a foreign policy doctrine. post presidents before him, obama, regan had some kind of foreign policy doctrine. this guy, i mean, trump abroad basically is guided and i'll use that word loose, guided by a mixture of belligerent, resentment, opportunity and pri conflict of interest.
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>> that's the thing. the hypocrisy of the cold war went along an access. you're a u.s. ally and fight columnists. we talk about your human rights. there is no -- >> he hated north korea fire and furry and now he's in love with them. it's weird and bizarre. every president had love affairs with dictators including barack obama, all of them have but not with this enthusiasm and guiltiness and writing blank checks. you make noises about democracy. previous presidents mattered in bahrain, which nobody talks about. i reported on it last year. there were people being tortured where the tortures have said to them, donald trump gave us a green light. now the president of america can do whatever we want. that is the real life on the ground consequences of this guy's rhetoric and this guy's
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ignorance. he has nuclear weapons but thinks nepal are parts of independent countries. >> the point you said about americans having love affairs with dictators and this, the difference here, one it's just bizarre the way he talks about kim jong-un. i mean, remember the american government had all sorts of problems with iran, didn't actually recognize hymn. there is no diplomatic relations before the joint talks. barack obama during the talks, which he very much wanted to get done was not going around saying he was in love with the -- >> the republicans could have crucified him. >> with trump, everything is about the person. i suspect part of it is that he kind of wants to be a dictator himself. he says he got rid of term limits, maybe i'll do the same. he praises kim and he said when he speaks, his people sit up and listen. i wish my people did the same. i think there is envy here, which is part of the equation.
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>> do you wonder what this means for actual american, how stable a foundation it is to build actual like nuclear diplomacy. >> it's not stable foundation. anyone that thinks trump is interested in nuclear diplomacy has to ask the question why did he tear up the nuclear agreement with iran? it makes no sense. he tore up hundreds of pages of years-long diplomacy with the iranians by the international community to come back with, one page, two-page summery and said the nuclear threat is over and now we're having another summit. i remember him saying denuclear summit is necessary. >> thanks, chris. >> one last thing, check out our live recording of "why is this happening." it's one you do not want to miss. incredible conversation about her career, plans for the future and whether she had gone a day. ton of fun. download it wherever you get your podcast.
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that is "all in" for this evening. tonight michael cohen opens three days of testimony with an apology for lying the last time around, while today took place behind this door tomorrow unfolds on live television. and tonight we have a preview of what the president's former lawyer and keeper of the secrets is prepared to say. let today a threat to cohen arrived via twitter. it read like the mob but it was said by a sitting member of congress, a trump allie from florida. tonight what we know about possible consequences. all of this while our president and north korea's dictator are in hanoi where their second summit gets under way in a matter of hours, as "the 11th hour" gets under way on a tuesday night. and good evening, we come to you tonight from our nbc news washington bureau. this was day 768 of the trump

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