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200 points. earlier it was down more than 280 points. stocks started giving back their gains after the commerce department said construction spending dropped .6% in december. economist poll forecasted a poll of .2%. thank you for watching. "deadline: white house" with nicolle wallace starts right now. hi, everyone, it's 4:00 in new york. how judiciary committee chairman gerald nadler is about to make donald trump long for the days when the only people were investigating him were the secret prosecutors in the mueller probe and southern district of new york. the scrutiny of donald trump's businesses, white house and family is about to be the primary focus of the house judiciary committee. and if the mueller problem is something that has donald trump frenzied and wild-eyed, the house investigations may very well be his undoing. house judiciary committee today launching a massive investigation into donald trump. nbc news
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reporting, quote, committee chairman darryl nadler said the request issued to 81 individuals and entities would help the committee probe three main topics, obstruction of justice, including interference by the president into criminal investigations, public corruption that includes violations of the emoluments clause. and abuses of power, including a tax on the free press, judiciary and law enforcement agencies. the president was asked today if he would cooperate. >> i corporate all the time with everybody. you know the beautiful thing, no collusion. it's all a hoax. you will learn about that. it's a political hoax. no collusion. >> did you get that? tlul of the
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through all of the proceedings "the washington post" writes -- today's speaking document request speaks directly at the impeachment proceeding that the bar is very high but with trump the evidence must be pursued and shared with the public. >> before you impeach somebody, you have to persuade the american public that it ought to happen. >> you have to persuade enough of the opposition party voters or trump voters that you're not just trying to -- >> that's a very high bar. >> yes, it is a very high bar. >> you're not just trying to reverse the results of the last election. >> we may or may not get there but we have to protect the rule of law.
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>> if i want it the american public needs to be shown the facts, not told the facts, that you need to see the evidence presented, pursued, tested before anyone sort of lurches towards impeachment, chairman nadler is the person i would want in charge of that. >> i watched jerry nadler over many years, he's very careful and smart and targeted. >> i think he understands before anybody can discuss the i word, impeachment, first they need
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oversight. >> elections have consequences, nicolle. >> five months of post-election day you see a large target by chairman nadler to look at the full spectrum of activity inside the trump orbit that has been counter to the rule of law, and that is, of course, is core to the judiciary's jurisdiction. >> if i were somebody that wanted to keep lawyers up at night, i would do this dangerous game of trying to put the people in the boxes, so who's in the obstruction investigation? who is in the emoluments investigation? i'll leave that to you guys, but let me put up some of the names that we learned chairman nadler wants to see documents produced from or talked to -- donald trump jr., allen weisselberg, jared kushner, jeff sessions, mike flynn, ami, done mcghan, hope hicks, reince priebus,
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roger stone and sean spicer. >> this could tell the whole occlusion story, you have roger in there and we know mcghan spent 30 hours with robert mueller, and you have the witnesses for obstruction in the there, you have mike flynn who dangled on obstruction, and this seems to be a whole lot of people who can tell a whole lot. >> i think one of the things that will be interesting to see,
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so he's going to have a decision to make. if he's called before congress and asked sort asked a wide, broad range of questions about what he has done over the years for the trump organization, he's either going to have to invoke the fifth amendment right against self-incrimination if he's done anything wrong and a betting man says he probably has, or if he decides to testify fully and completely about what the trump organization has been up to financially over the past several decades, he's going to put himself in legal jeopardy. so i don't think we have yet heard witnesses plead the fifth in front of congress but if we get the weisselbergs and we get
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the don jr.s talking about how he didn't know anything about the trump tower moscow deal, he was just on the periphery. there's significant information and evidence that yuundercuts tt claim, we may see people start taking the fifth. >> devlin, glenn brought us right to the specific, where i wanted to go with this quote from bertrand over the weekend. it was a quote of andy mccabe, he sort of ties the trump era at the end of his career when he was investigating russian organized crime and there's a quote from him, i think people think of following the money simply as a way of uncovering whether somebody's been involved in money laundering or a financial crime, which is, of course, important. but on a much more fundamental level. it's a way of understanding relationships and networks, to understand who the person that is interested in is connected to, who they're communicating with and who they're receiving money from or giving money to. it goes to proving an existence
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of an organization or rico, the racketeer corrupt influence organization act would say, an enterprise. all of these musings coming out of the southern district of new york, all of the undercountries of michael cohen's testimony and certainly this list released today of 81 targets from the house judiciary committee and what we know adam schiff has talked about, wanting to explore the house intel committee, suggests this may be precisely the framework around the question for the trump organization and family. >> right, but what i think is interesting about this laundry list, and it is true, there's a huge list of topics they're looking at and they're trying to make connections to try to understand if there's an enterprise here but realistically, this list is so long, i wonder what they will focus on as they go forward. presumably they will get traction on some issues but not traction on others.
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congress is not the best focused entities on its best day. so what i'm looking forward to is which one of these areas are they really going to drill down on? >> let me put up to that point, something adam schiff said yesterday, the house intel committee looks like it has its focus. let's watch this and talk about it on the other side. >> we certainly looking deep into the set of issues around moscow trump tower and looking at persistent allegations the russians have been monitoring money through the trump organization. i don't know if that's true. but if it is it's a profound compromise from this president. >> starting to hear that more and more. the compromise was the conduct, was the conduct of money laundering, was the knowledge of negotiations around trump tower moscow going on longer among putin and his cohorts than it did among any american officials other than people who may have been listening. this idea that the money laundering as steve bannon is quoted saying in "fire and fury"
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one of the original sentences. >> sometimes when we hear people reflect the steel dossier and salacious examples and ones, of course, that have not been proven e. there's more than that. there's a pattern of behavior over decades investigators are looking at, we know be rot mueller is, and today with what the house committee has done is said game on. michael cohen last week in some ways was opening act but provides almost a roadmap. he hit upon so many different subjects and so many different aspects of the trump organization and president's family is, of course, intimately involved in that, those are the avenues where the democrats are now going to follow. and there will be many ways they will put pressure on this white house. we saw from the president in the clip you played, relatively relaxed, downplaying it, his usual language about hoax and it's a wish hutch-hunt, whateve might be. but that's different than what we are seeing behind the scenes, to his aides and we are seeing it spill out on twitter that
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he's frustrated and aggravated and worried about where this could go. presidential harassment has been his new catch phrase. as much as the white house staffed up and hired new lawyers, they know they might not be ready for the sheer onslaught, the sheer volume of what's coming from the hill, from these various committees including the one led by chairman nadler. and there's a sense that each day will yield something new. and each day that could get a step closer to the oval office. >> there's also this misnomer -- i worked in the white house and henry waxman was the chair on the committee, i produced e-mail once around enron. document production in and of itself is all of those things. but hillary clinton's e-mails were ultimately referred to the justice department but it started as a document request. so people underestimate the danger of these committee investigations at their own peril. >> right, hillary clinton did a great job when she testified before congress on benghazi, but
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that investigation over the long term really did damage to her candidacy. and i think what democrats are going to try to do here and they're going to do it very surgically and precise is to make this go for a long time and uncover -- and basically do this in front of the public, uncover what is inside of this administration, what is rotten and what is corrupt? and it's going to go until the election, i think. and that is, again, you saw with hillary clinton no matter how -- i thought it was a bogus investigation, but it really did damage to her -- to her approval numbers, favorable numbers, and i think for trump, we're looking at an administration now that much different than hillary clinton, we know for a fact that there is -- i pretty much know for a fact that i think there's is corruption there, that it's rotten, there's been abuse of power, and now it's going to be in front of the american people.
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thank god. that's what congress is supposed to do, oversight. >> jerry, doug makes an interesting point. mueller is doing his job the way any sort of legal professional or political professional understands he must do his job. but rudy giuliani has been able to do some damage in the public arena and a minimum among trump's base because he's voiceless. he doesn't speak. we don't hear from him. he speaks through indictments and court documents that are indecipherable to anyone other than you and glenn and reporters who read them all day. this process, being in congress in full view, i imagine what they can do in full view, they will do in public hearings, and what they have to do in private hearings, they'll do in private hearings. seeing people close to trump as glenn suggests, his former bookkeeper has to take the fifth to avoid self-incrimination. these are the kind of moments, these will be the exhibits that speak a million words louder than dozens of mueller
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indictments or charging documents. >> and the framers of our constitution set it up that way, nicolle, so under article one congress would conduct oversight, largely in public. this is not a judicial proceeding, this is not a prosecution where if somebody is not charged in some ways the case goes away quietly. no, this is designed to expose to the sunlight all of the activities of the executive branch, and just to pick up on doug's point, i think the wisdom of chairman nadler's approach, unlike the approach with benghazi where they happened to investigate someone running for president, the only issue they were interested in is something tethered to the democratic nominee for president, which obviously was so transparent, the wisdom of chairman nadler's approach is saying no, we have to stand back, we have to look comprehensively at things across the spectrum that are concerning to us regarding the rule of law. therefore i think chairman nadler will get support, he will pick up republican support in certain cases. i hope for some of his
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activities, and i think he will make the best case possible if you follow the facts, oversight will actually result in better, stronger government. >> and i'm old enough to remember, as you are, jeremy, when these functions used to be bipartisan. hope springs eternal. glenn kirschner, i want to read you what the list may delve into, this is from "the new york times." now they're requesting all documents related to the resignation of michael t. flynn as national security adviser, firing of mr. comey, attempts to fire mr. mueller, communications with trump about sessions and the president's first attorney general and about ongoing investigations into his presidency. that sounds like a detailed list there put together in that one paragraph, the obstruction of justice case against the president. >> and what you just said a few minutes ago, nicolle, i was a proser for 30 years and perhaps i was never creative enough to come up with a catch phrase like
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the danger of the documents, but we've seen now in just one aspect of michael cohen's testimony when he presented the american people with a check signed by the president that was a reimbursement check for the illegal hush money payments michael cohen had made and we saw that the conspiracy itself was ongoing, and it seeped right into the white house because michael cohen told the american people that the president in the white house said, hey, michael, don't worry, the reimbursement for those hush money payments you made for me, they're on the way. they're in the mail or they're being fedexed. that is an ongoing conspiracy that seeped into the white house. but you hit on the danger of the documents. we're going to see realtime memos authored by people to protect themselves and protect their own interests and protect against the lies the president
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might tell about the true circumstances off a conversation. those documents above and beyond the testimony the american people are going to hear, they're going to corroborate the claims of the witnesses and they're eereally going to show irrefutably the president was up to no good. >> it's such a good point, devlin, something "the new york times" and your colleagues have been reporting on in the context of jared kushner's background process, officials were so concerned they took contemporaneous memos. i want to throw out one more thought from your pup about pardons -- you are investigating whether president trump's former personal lawyer michael cohen was involved in any discussions about possible pardons, which they view as a potentially ripe area of inquiry as to whether anyone sought to obstruct justice. people familiar with the matter said cohen said publicly he never asked for and would not accent a pardon from trump but people familiar with the matter said his knowledge on the topics seems to extend beyond that
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statement. so if you put together what we know donald trump's first lawyer, john dowd did around the time -- or actually before the time manafort and flynn were charged, they dangled pardons in front of him reportedly, if cohen is another person around whom a pardon was suggested, you certainly have a pattern of attempting to obstruct their testimony or their cooperation after they were entangled. >> right. that's why the pardon question is such a big question for all of these guys, including cohen. but anybody who brings it up brings it up in the middle of their investigation and prosecution is obviously meddling with obstruction of justice in a major way. that's why it's such a red-hot topic and why the lawmakers are trying to figure out how much meat is really there. >> devlin and glenn, make me smarter. sometimes i have to google what you've said after the show, but i appreciate all of it. thank you for spending time with us. after the break, a stunning new piece of reporting documenting
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exactly how the media-run state pulls the string from fox news headquarters in new york. also ahead, questions about donald trump's fitness for office back in the atmosphere after a two-hour turn on the cpac stage in which donald trump viciously attacked robert mueller, mocked jeff sessions and called jim comey a bad, bad guy. and then spy games, how the nation's top spy had to coach the president to pay attention to the world's threat with mixed success rates. all of that coming up. i can't believe it. that we're playing "four on four" with a barbershop quartet? [quartet singing] bum bum bum bum... pass the ball... pass the rock.. ...we're open just pass the ball! no, i can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with geico. yea. [quartet singing] shoot the j! shoot, shoot, shoot the jaaaaaay... believe it! geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. believe it! geico could save you fifteen percent so we improved everything.g.
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relationship with fox news has
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become so normalized that we hardly bat an eyelash when trump mimics something he hears on "fox & trinfriends" with more e than anything he hears in an intel meeting. but who's running the ward, it seems like a media-run state. now this, the extensive reporter from jay mayer from "the new yorker" provides an answer -- the piece shines new light on previously unknown products of the trump/fox relationship. for starters, a fox digital reporter uncovered proof of the stormy daniels relationship and ensuing agreement with trump. but, quote, after getting one noncommittal answer from her editors, the last she heard from fox news, good reporting, kiddo but rupert wants trump to win so just let it go. the piece also describes through several sources two instances where trump was given advance
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notice of debate questions, and especially eye-popping piece of reporting considering how angry trump was by a similar situation having to do with hillary clinton. finally perhaps most importantly, the peace details of previously unknown attempts by donald trump himself to put pressure on the justice department to intervene in the merger of at&t and time warner, a move seen by some as retaliation against the company that owns cnn, blocking the deal, but also would be good for fox. joining jonathan and doug here on set, the sirius xm director of programmer and jeremy is still here as well. this was reported on at the time and followed you and george connelly and others on twitter who thought the single act in normal times would be a full-blown scandal. >> i actually it's it's one of the biggest, almost provable scandals, of the trump administration. the president seems to have
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clearly intervened to get his justice department and his top antitrust official to reverse an earlier judgment and block the merger of these two behemoths. i spoke to the ceo of at&t at the time. he himself was so outraged that he gave me a pretty powerful on-the-record interview talking about a very peculiar time line. a district judge than promptly reversed the justice department's decision to block the merger, and the appellate court just affirmed the district judge. look, the point here is the president of the united states appears to have sue borned his justice department in order to pursue a political vendetta against a media entity cnn. and to use all of the engines of government in order to do that. and then i would just put it to everyone watching the show who supports trump, if obama or a
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president clinton had done it, would you not call that impeachable? >> there are closeted viewers of trump supporters who watch, i know a few. jeremy bash, let me get you on the record. it seems like this is where trump benefits from the volume benefits of scandals he does but this piece has very careful reporting in here about gary cohen and the detailed conversation between gary cohen and white house chief of staff john kelly. we don't hear john kelly's side of the story in her reporting but we hear gary cohen saying very clearly, someone who cares about his reputation on wall street and polite society, i'm paraphrasing, but this is some sort of red line. this is not how we do business. what do you make of these sort of emerging glimpses of the efforts by human guardrails to stop donald trump from doing things beyond norm-busting but impeachable or illegal or highly unethical or whatever term you want to use?
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>> here i think we see another example of one of the professionals signed the white house, gary keen, who led goldman sachs. i think it's fair to say is kind of an institutionalist. he's saying no, mr. president, we can't intervene in an antitrust matter being run by the department of justice anyone than a special prosecutor's investigation. that seemed to be echoed by john kelly but to no avail. the president forced them to get the white house involved, get involved in the justice department's efforts and you've got the president basically overriding the word and advise of aides who are loyal to the institution and the president saying, i don't care, i want everyone loyal to me. i think you can expect to see a lot more of this, nicolle, as more oversight shines light on the way the president has been involving himself in this supposed independent actions of our government. >> and you don't need a democratic lawmaker or a left leaning individual to suggest that this is as grave as brett and jeremy say it is.
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george conway, kellyanne conway's husband, said this today on twitter -- if proven such an attempt to use presidential authority to secret traa bugs for the exercise of first amendment rights would unquestionably be grounds for impeachment. >> george connelly, of course, is a noted and vocal critic of the president, unlike his wife, who still works in the west wing. and as a followup, gary cohen is probably the only senior official to leave on principles, not because he was forced out. there's no question this is a serious matter and old friend who said it would be the story. here an hour or two, day or two. it shouldn't be. light should be shown on it. >> the oversight committee -- >> that is the game-changer, up until this moment with the democrats in charge, this would have been a bad story for a couple of days and gone away. now there's a ability to be pursued, the oversight committee
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can go after this, subpoena documents involved, talk to witnesses and make something more of it. that will be the test to what we were just saying, to this point the president has been able to shake off scandal after scandal, impact poll numbers and judgments, but that could change now. some of stuff could stick to hip. he no longer has the allies on the hill to make the stuff go away. >> i want to get to developments because this does seem like the kind of thing even if you fly under the radar, this is absolutely worthy of investigation. she's got reporting a committee could corroborate in closed or open session with two senior advisers to the president and it is all of the things that brad and jonathan and jeremy say it is. it seems like a scandal ripe for some sort of correction, some sort of cleaning out of the corruption trump tried to impart on the justice department. >> right. it's a wonderful moment to be in most 2018 midterms where as jonathan said, we can now
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actually do something about these allegations that seem to disturbing in terms of abuses of power from his position as president. but the fox news thing, i was on with gabe sherman yesterday, obviously he's done so much great reporting in terms of fox news and roger ailes, and he said something that stuck with me, he said post watergate, roger ailes' entire concept of fox news was to prevent that from happening again. now we're watching donald trump have scandal after scandal after scandal, except you have a right wing echo chamber which cannot be pierced in order to give facts to the people who essentially -- who may change their minds if they heard some of the detail around some of these scandals. so the idea and conversations we keep having about like what's going to matter? are we ever going to hit bottom? i think finally now we will because we have an alternative to the fox news platform. we now have congressional hearings which will also play on
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fox news, where some of that truth will at least get to some of their audience. >> but i would add just conservatives, though the few who sincere conservatives who remain, really ought to be outraged. this was supposed to be a pro-business administration. here you've got two companies trying to complete what's called a vertical merger, vertical mergers have not been challenged for a very long time. they're not seen as anti-competitive, and the only reason why this is blocked is because a partisan president has personal pique against a private business and if conservatives don't -- wouldn't like democrats behaving that way against business, they should especially not like republicans doing so. >> i want to put up one thing for you and give you the last word. this is the list of people from fox news who found their way into the administration, bill shine, communications director, i still being paid out by fox
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news, ben carson was a contributor, mercedes shlap, heather nauert is at the state department and nominee to be u.n. representative, john bolton was at fox news, scaramucci, mcfarland, sebastian, goehrkia, fill in the blank, i read he doesn't work there anymore. this is extraordinary. >> yeah, i used to think that fox news was the arm of the republican party. now i think the white house is a farm of fox news. and you know the white house is staffing up with people who were either contributors or ran the network, bill shine ran that network. and it's paying off for the president right now and it's paying off for fox news with ratings, but i think that the -- i think as we get into a 2020 election, i think it's going to be a very difficult spot for fox, especially post election, if they are still tied to this man and we're seeing whatever may happen with mueller or what
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may happen with these investigations, if he's such a damaged person either heading into the election or if he even doesn't make it to the election, where does fox news go from there? i don't really know what -- >> that's a conversation we'll pick up but i think the biggest problem is fox news now stands for someone who is neither republican nor conservative. we will see how that ends. after the break, the wild ride cpac edition. ride cpac edition. biopharmaceutical researchers.
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>> trump's fitness to serve has been debated privately and publicly for years now. his appearance at this weekend at cpac likely added fuel to the argument made by senator corker years ago. starting offer hugging the flag on stage, the president delivered the longest speech of his presidency to date, clocking in over two hours. take a listen. >> this is how i got elected by being off-script. darling is the wind blowing today? i would like to watch television, darling. the attorney general said i'm going to recuse myself and i'm in the white house and i was lonely! i said let's go to iraq! $7 trillion and we have to fly in with no lights. yet i see senators that are there for 20 years, white hair. see, i don't have white hair. and then that fake cnn and others saying, he asked russia to go get the e-mails! horrible! they don't respect us. they think we're stupid-o.
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they don't respect us. he's bad. he's a bad, bad -- he's a bad, bad guy. russia, russia, russia, russia. my wife said, you never spoke to anybody from russia, darling. i said that's right. and all of a sudden they're trying to take you out with [ bleep ], okay. [ bleep ]. i said what's your name? sir, my name is raisin. what the hell kind of a name -- i said raisin like the fruit? i have friends that for 35 years, hey, don, how are you doing? hey, donny, i love you, donny. for 35 years, now they go -- mr. president, sir. i'm going to regret this speech. this speech should have been delivered one year from now, not now, damn it. >> someone say stupid-o? >> the press ran a fact check of that speech and i think it ran 100,000 words. what we've seen time and time again when the president was
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dealt a defeat, and last week he was dealt two, michael cohen testimony, streamextremely dama and embarrassing in front of the world and failure to come to an agreement in vietnam in front of kim jong-un. when he has setbacks, needs an outlet. sometimes it's twitter but often the next speech, particularly in fopt front of a friendly audience, and this one certainly was. when the crowd getting him on and the chants, he fed off it. he needed a release. i was talking to someone after the speech in his orbit who said they saw this coming. the president had been in a mood all week after what happened. he was really angry he felt like the kim jong-un in part had been sabotaged by democrats because they put the cohen hearing opposite it. >> by me. >> maybe it was by me. and, of course, the defense to
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that question because the white house was very angry and barred a few reporters from the next event. that's as much of the story as kim jong-un story. the cohen hearing could help decide the fate of the presidency and discussed with all of the hearings coming. >> i hope you said maybe because you don't want to make it about you. you should be proud asking that question. that was the news of the day. >> thank you. that was the news of the day. the white house expectations were so low with that summit, we didn't have a lot of time on that and we were right. when we knew michael cohen would be brought up and testified himself, he needed to be asked about that. so jeff from reuters asked a couple questions about the north korea summit, he answered those. when i asked a request about cohen, he did not. and then sarah sanders try to bar all reporters from the next event, and when they pushed back and said they wouldn't take
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pictures of the event unless there was reporter presence, she relented. a few of us, myself included, were still not allowed. but it was the frustration from the week that led to this. >> jeremy, i will put you on the spot, how many people in the national security establishment see a speech like cpac and share detective clapper's concern about donald trump with the nuclear codes. >> . >> a lot, even if they binge watch data or sneak an extra klondike bar, this guys goes totally nuts, off the rails, and he doesn't achieve something he wants in diplomatic channels and needs an outlet for his anger, frustration and stress. nothing he said in that speech was coherent and it makes you wonder how precisely he would react if faced with a major
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threat to the homeland security or national security crisis. it's very, very scary. >> i will disagree. first of all to say the obvious, that was a speech worthy of fidel castro, a speech worry of certain style of demagogue who can hold an audience, his audience, for hours on end. that being said, it was a very effective political speech. i'm not -- i was appalled as everyone else but what trump was doing in that audience is that he was connecting with his base, he was once again establishing that almost animal link between the leader and the mass, and i think we're very foolish to dismiss it as the ranting of a madman who is on his last leg. >> let me just -- i'm not dismissing it, bret. that's why i think we came into this as a question about his confidence. if i were dismissing it, i would have played the laugh lines.
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we talked about how he called mueller's investigation bull. i think what jeremy just said was pretty revelatory, there are countless people in the establishment who question his competence because i think what's on display is a serious lack thereof. whether it's an effective political trope or not. >> i would question his confidence in many ways. >> i still think as a political tool, it would be even better. but love me as i am. go ahead, jeremy. >> but i think a different point is when faced with the stress of a national security crisis, this president seemed farther removed from the truth and that is a huge problem many people are concerned about. >> right. i think it's not specifically whether or not it was effective for this audience because i think they were eating it up and that's why he stayed out there for so long, he needs that positive feedlablack loop. what's scary is the ongoing national security crisis that is this president, jared kushner's
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security clearance, which is still not the top story and he's still not fired, and -- >> wasn't. >> and i think the national security threat is still present and he has not yet faced the crisis jeremy is talking about. and if that's how he deals with, quote, stress or when he's under emotional -- he's emotionally unstable, if that's how he reacts, then that is the threat. i don't think it's a politically smart speech. i think it's more to the point if that is how he responds to stress, that puts him in physical danger. >> what did he was clever. he put the week behind him by changing the subject. donald trump does this again and again. whether it's from some firm instinct to move forward or high political level of genius. what scares me about trump isn't in as much as a national security crisis or out-of-control termperment, it's, to use his word, stupid-o.
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>> i thought the most dangerous thing he said in that speech was we have people in congress who hate our country. that to me i thought was the most dangerous thing he said in the speech and should never have come from the president of the united states. bush would have never said that. barack obama would have never said that. >> i think not only would they not have said it in front of their base, they wouldn't have thought it. after the break, the stupe phiing lengths donald trump's advisers have to go to make information more digestible during briefings and three questions he repeatedly asks them. y asks them
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at carvana. do you take kim jong-un at his word? >> the president takes him at his word. >> i know he does, but what about you? >> my opinion doesn't matter. >> you're national security adviser to the president. it matters quite a bit. >> i'm not the national security decisionmaker. that's his view. my job now is help the president, give him advise, give him my advice. he will make the decision. >> he's not even getting the
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intel or advise he needs it would seem. we know his president doesn't read his pdb, relying solely on verbal briefings. "the new york times" revealed just how far oral briefings are catering to his likings at the expense of valuable information from that report, quote, intelligence officers steeped in how mr. trump views the world now work to answer his repeated question. this is real from the report. who is winning? what the president wants to know, according to former officials, is what country is making more money or gaining a financial advantage? while the professionals do not criticize mr. trump's focus, they do question whether those interests are crowding out intelligence on threats like terrorism. maneuvers of traditional adversary, developments of forenaries with implications. no big deal, guys. jeremy bash? >> nicolle, states have
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motivation and finances are one of them but they certainly aren't the only one. to overly focus on them as if he were making the decisions from trump tower, ahead of the trump organization, i national security interests. i think it is a blind spot. having a kmacommander in chief t doesn't understand. i think the president could not convince north koreans from de nuclearization. it is not just an issue of action ises, what president said was happening in hanoi, and the lead up to hanoi, actually never happened. it was divorced from the truce a -- truth. if next week the north koreans test fire an icbm i think the president's reaction could be unhinged, crazy, and dangerous. >> the president is certainly not the first president to
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receive economic information in these briefings, president obama did for a time too after the crash in 2008 and twine. he felt like just his one on one, his relationship with kim, could seal some kind of grand bargain. and it was weeks and months but not to the extend that something of this magnitude happens. this deal looks done, and this is not the case at all. enathink the president has people around tham are very worried about the scenario that he just painted, it is true they have not had a missile test in many months or a year at this point, trump as dispinted as he
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was, still spoke very highly of kim. it was a personal detrabetrayalt happens next? >> what are you picking up in your reporting for a doomsday scenario? >> there is a concern there would be a step toward hostilities. decisions made because of economics, the president is ratcheting some of the working. some of those military exercises in south korea. he says she doing it to save money. other people worry that is making the korean peninsula less safe. >> we know he deescalates based on a whim. is there concern he could case
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late on the sa escalate as well. >> we have to be on high alert in the asia pacific region. he has a domestic political constituency to work for as well. he will have to show his own government, his own party leaders that he is still tough and in charge. i think that is why our troops will be -- >> this is why jeremy barb pa-- bash pays for my ambien. bash pa. that's designed to reduce irritation during the shave.
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we're back. >> i think one point we should add to the north korean discussion is the amazement of watching john bolton with the president and parlaying kim jong un, if there was anything more consistent than jon bolton's mustache is his opposition with parlays with north korea, he knows they cannot be trusted. they will go back on every commit want. they a heinous regime. they hold their people in borderline slavery and he was right on every one of those points which make it's so amazing to me to see him
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alongside the president, and in hanoi and refew fu-- refusing t state his own opinion, but it would say something if from time to time a senior member would say no, i'm not going to betray smi values. >> it seems to me that the president has deep contempt for the intelligence community. to me that seems like russia impacted the investigation for him. for me that is bleeding into so many things. he said he believes kim jong un if impacts how he takes intelligence on russia today. a that is really dangerous
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because i wonder what does he believe, not believe, and how scrambled is his mind with the intelligence community. >> it gives us all a reason to stay vigilant. because the risks are very real. >> jeremy, are you still there? >> i'm here, yeah. >> can you speak to doung's point about what he believes and what they have told him for two years. >> yeah, the finding was that not that, it was that russia interfered, but trump has never forgeten the donald trump administration. the professionals that were duty bound, sworn, and risk everything in their lives to protect us and tell the truth. >> before i thank everybody,
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thank you for your good work. you're the only reason we know what we know because you're taking these trips and asking the questions. my thanks to brett, doug, jeremy, thank you for watching, "mtp daily" starts now. >> if it is monday, democrats are demanding documents. >> good evening and welcome to "mtp katie turr and it has been a full day of breaking news. democrats are launch investigations into

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