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to discuss solutions for the american people rather than just blaming the victimhood complex. >> could he be the pick? ladies, thank you. we're watching a lot of contenders. that wraps us up this hour. right now i hand the anchor desk off to hallie jackson in washington d.c. >> thanks much. i am hallie jackson in washington where president trump is spoiling for a fight with congressional democrats. making a big ask in his new budget for more border wall money. if you're feeling deja vu, you're not the only ones. with fears now of another shutdown later. plus deadline day for roger stone. time to prove he is obeying a judge's orders to keep quiet about his case. look beyond the book release and instagram post and other instagram post. the court filing we're watching for. plus what else is on robert mueller's radar this morning. and on our 2020 radar, the potential for a top presidential
candidate. a new one with new clues from biden world. we'll break down what our sources are saying and breaking news. airlines around the world grounding some boeing jets after that devastating ethiopian airlines crash that killed everyone on board. the dow reacting this morning as we take a look at the big board. and airlines in the u.s. may too. we are on top of all of that with our team in place covering all of it. we start at the white house. putting one of its most potent 2020 campaign issues front and center. the fight to pay for a border wall. remember back before the government shutdown when the president asked for 5 $.7 billion? he got just under 1.5 billion. you he has an $8.6 billion ask. you hear this from chuck schumer and nancy pelosi. he was forced to admit defeat and reopen the government. we hope he learned his lesson.
according to one report about what the president told donors behind closed doors just hours after saying this -- >> the democrats have become an ant anti-israel party. they've become an anti-jewish party. that's too bad. >> geoff bennett is at the white house. walk us through what we know about this request the president is putting over to congress. these things are mostly symbolic, but what i hear from talking to folks at the white house, they want the world to know. right? this is what the president wants. this is his message. >> you're right about that. look, people should know that white house budgets are vision statements that outline a president's priorities. and so very rarely have white house budgets been enacted as written even when the president's parties controls both chambers of congress. with this the president is laying down a marker for all the spending fights to come. that's the top line take away. it calls for $8.6 billion in
wall funding. that's more than the president managed to get from both congress and his national emergency declaration combined. he wants to raise defense spending to $750 billion. then the white house wants to cut 2 $.7 trillion in nondefense spending. they say that's the biggest cut ever to things like foreign aid, cuts in environmental protection and strict rules for anti-poverty programs. this budget calls for balancing itself over 15 years. it runs counter to the republican orthodoxy. the declining revenue from corporate taxes due in part to the gop tax cuts, we caught up with the acting white house budget director. here's what he had to tell us about this. >> we do have an $8.6 billion request to congress to complete the wall. this is in addition to the billions of dollars that we are
securing through the president's declaration of a national emergency. use know, this is an area where we're getting tired of being right. >> that was on cnbc. he's going to be testifying on capitol hill in the coming weeks to see where democrats and the white house can find common ground. >> geoff, before i let you go, i have to ask you about the axios reporting from over the weekend. the president at mar-a-lago t l telling people the democrats hate jewish people. i don't know that the white house has responded. >> they haven't. they've not issued an immediate denial. we reached out to both the campaign and the white house to see if they had anything to say about this and no response yet. >> geoff, welcome back. it's great to see you. i'm hopping over to the white house later. i'll see you there. let me bring in andy card, nancy
cook, and talu. thank you for being here on a monday morning. andy, let me play for you a little bit of what larry kudlow had to say. why this matters has to do with the potential for maybe another shutdown down the road. >> there's going to be another budget fight over the wall? >> i suppose there will be. >> the heavy say doesn't mask it. what happens from here? >> the president's digit really is a political document. geoff bennett had it right. it will be thrown in the basket and congress will become a talking point for people to criticize the president and everybody in the administration will say this is what we're asking for, we're going to fight for it and the battle has just started. i do think the battle over the wall funding is going to be particularly challenging. and i don't know how the president expects to get $8.6 billion in addition to what he's already got, but i think he wants it for a political issue
and to drive up the reality that there are problems on the border. >> what is the signal to the trump base? it seems like that's what a lot of this plays into. >> the president is going to keep pushing for border wall funding. i talked to an administration official yesterday who made the point the $8.6 billion in extra border wall funding was key because it would allow the president to finish 722 miles of border wall. that's the message they really want out there that even if they're blocked by congress or the courts in terms of this national emergency, the president is still trying. that's what they want people to think. >> and the president has been frustrated that the first two years he was in office, he had complete control both in the house and senate republicans leading. he got a little money to build some replacement fencing. now he's trying to drive a hard bargain and come in with a much higher initial ask so if there is some sort of compromise during the process, it will still allow them to build some
wall but not as much as the president wants? >> we know this week is going to feel like a return to january with a lot of focus from president trump, from the administration on the border, on the wall, on that battle over the national emergency. you've got "the washington post" talking about the gop is bracing for donald trump to veto the congressional rejection of his emergency declaration. you have four senators now saying they're going to vote to block this thing. what happens if congress does end up blocking it and the president vetoes? i mean, technically we're sort of right back where we were originally. right? >> well, we are, but i understand the institutional reality is that the senate feels that they should not acquiesce all the time to the executive branch. this is not an unusual debate to have, and i do expect if they pass the bill, the president will veto it. i don't see how the veto will be overridden. so we're back to a stalemate. but i'm not surprised by this. this is a traditional battle between article one in the constitution and article two. and i don't care whether the
president controls the parties in the house and the senate or not. there's still an institutional battle that always seems to take place between article one and two. >> let's talk about what we chatted with geoff bennett about. the president said it publicly on friday, that the democrats are the party that is anti-israel, anti-semitic. it comes as there are new pieces out this morning about the president's close relationship as we know with benjamin netanyahu and what seems to be a little bit of a narrative that took shape over the last 24 hours or so. listen to what liz said to chuck here on this set over the weekend. watch. >> the democrats have been in charge now for about two and a half months in the house. th . in that time they've become the party of socialism. >> democrats is the party of anti-semitism. do you think that's the message they want to be sending or do you have concerns? >> i think the democrats are sending the message. they're the ones misspoken --
>> they just wrote it on a bill to condemn anti-semitism and other hatred. right? >> they passed a resolution that was milk toast. and believe me, they're the ones who started this unfortunate debate that we're in the middle of right now. and i think it is troubling, but the democrats are misplaying the hand they've been dealt, and i think they are predisposed to want to do that. nancy pelosi has a tough time. >> nancy has a little skepticism on your face. what's up? >> i think the president, you have to look at the confection in which he made the comments. he made them in florida over the weekend at an rnc retreat before about 500 donors. the white house really wants to see or the campaign really sees florida where there are a lot of jewish voters as a key battle ground, and he's trying to paint the democrats in broad brush strokes and critical brush strokes in as many ways as he can. part of that is the socialism
message and part of that is the idea that democrats are anti-israel, and i think the campaign sees both of those as potentially very potent messages. >> they want to make this a binary choice between the president on one side and extremists on the other side even if you don't like the president, you would be willing to vote with him or at least not with the democrats. >> the president made this joke about black face agents wearing night vision goggles saying they were there because their masks were on. maybe they'd have to take them away. >> i talked to a number of officials. they say the president drives the messaging. they know they can't put the president in a box. he's going to go off script. they're trying to make sure the president is not sort of diverting from the broader message that democrats are socialist and even if the president says things that are uncouth, people will vote for him if they can paint the democrats as extreme as
possible. >> andy, do you have issues with the president making a behind the scenes joke about black face, allegedly in. >> believe me, only donald trump decides what donald trump is going to say. i don't think he follows a script well, and he doesn't tai his words before he spits them out. he doesn't lick his thumbs before he tweets something out. this is donald trump. we've come to know that and expect it. i think everybody on the republican side gives him a little bit of a by because of it because they say he's just donald trump being donald trump. >> although, andy, i don't lick my thumbs before i tweet either. we'll have to see how that goes. thank you. i appreciate you coming on the show. >> a quick note. remember back in the day taking the walk down memory lane when there used to be a press briefing daily or weekly? the last one was 42 days ago. in order, no daily on camera
briefing during the month of february. this is the first time we've gone a full calendar month without one in the trump administration. those driveway gaggles have seemed to take the place. >> roger stone has explaining to do. a judge ordered him to prove by today that he's in kplacomplian with his gag order. after sunday's deadly crash in ethiopia, this is the second crash for this new line of planes in less than six months. at least one airline executive thinks those countries are making a mistake. we're going to get the latest on this investigation after the break. it's tough to quit smoking cold turkey. so chantix can help you quit "slow turkey." along with support, chantix is proven to help you quit. with chantix you can keep smoking at first and ease into quitting. chantix reduces the urge so when the day arrives,
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there are serious new safety concerns in this country this morning after another catastrophic crash involved boeing's new state of the art 737 max 8. this morning we learned investigators retrieved the flight data and cockpit voice recorders to help them try to figure out what led to the crash that killed all 157 people on board including eight americans. the plane lost contact with radar 6 minutes of taking off sunday morning en route to nairobi. it crashed in a field about 30 miles from the airport. this morning flags are at after staph
staff. and the markets on wall street have stabilized after a quick drop. boeing stock down in the first hour of trading. down about 8%. tom covers aviation for nbc news. i'm also joined by jim hall. tom, it looks like in the last few minutes southwest airlines whose fleet has some of these planes tweeted we remain confident in the safety of our fleet of more than 750 boeing aircraft adding the safety of aircraft is constant and unwaivering. this is some of the first response from u.s. companies. >> american airlines said the same thing. this plane is flown by american southwest united and air canada, but it is a widely flown plane around the world. 350 of them in service worldwide. but the headline at this hour is that now both black boxes have been recovered. you have two brand new state of the art planes going down within five months.
with that several countries now grounding the plane including china, indonesia, and as you would expect ethiopia. investigators want to know are there any similarities to the ethiopian crash and the indonesian crash last october. both planes went down just after takeoff. both were brand new state of the art planes. both crews reported trouble maintaining control even erratic speed readings with the case of the etheopian plane. you may recall the air flight that went down last october. it was down 12 minutes in a flight. the angle of attack sensors may have fed bad data to the on board computers suggesting the plane was going to stall. the computers pushed the nose down to pick up air speed, but the pilots were struggling to keep the nose up not realizing they were fighting a new automated system that boeing never told pilots about.
this is the concern now. has this become an issue on two crashes? we don't know, but it's why you've now got china and indonesia grounding a flight. american authorities are under pressure to figure out what's going on. >> jim, the black box as we talked about has been recovered. what are investigators going to be looking for from that? >> well, they'll be looking for the data to try to determine what went wrong. but my personal feeling on this is that boeing aircraft d they ought to voluntarily itself ground these aircraft because of the similarities between these two accidents. it's a brand new aircraft. and we had such a remarkable safety record in aviation that i think this needs to be addressed by the manufacturer, and they need to detail -- a detailed look. with the black boxes available,
that will be able to be done in a short term. >> what are the chances boeing will do that? are there any rumbles of that at this time? >> at this moment boeing is being quiet. they're saying they're cooperating with the investigation. that's boilerplate language on any kind of information. and it's quiet from boeing right now. listen, i think from all of our sources, boeing right now is very, very concerned. they've had two of their planes go down in five months. first, how often do we talk about plane crashes anymore? they're rare. thank god. to have two brand new state of the art planes go down, this is a very bright flashing red light, and boeing is really concerned right now. listen, china grounding the entire 737 max fleet in china. they fly about 90 of them in total. more than us in the states. that's putting pressure on boeing and also on the faa here in the united states to get to the bottom of this as fast as it can. >> tom costello, we'll see you
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>> buckle up for a busy week involving key trump world players caught up in the russia investigation or as politico puts it the week that could reveal robert mueller's end game. any moment today we might get an update from long-time trump confidant roger stone. he's been ordered to respond to court on why the newly published book does not violate a gag order. he's not supposed to be saying anything after saying plenty since pleading not guilty to charges brought by the special counsel. >> they beat me up pretty good. they want to silence me because i'll stand up for donald trump. >> so then the rest of the week on wednesday paul manafort facing the same judge in the
stone case and potentially ten more years behind bars after his 47-month sentence. also wednesday lawyers for michael flynn will tell a judge whether he's ready for his sentencing. remember, flynn has been cooperating with those special counsel prosecutors. on thursday back to stone who could learn the date for his trial. on friday paul manafort's former right hand man rick gates will update the court on whether he's ready to be sentenced. let's bring in julia ainsley along the cynthia oxney and kara lamb. julia, we went through the drip, drip, drip of everything we could expect to see this week. we didn't mention potentially the report from robert mueller, at least notification he's handed the report over to the attorney general.
>> that's right. that's why i'm here. that's why the press rumor the justice department is full today, because we have been expecting for weeks now to at least get notification that that report from robert mueller would have been delivered here to the attorney general william barr. we're hoping we'll know when it's delivered and it will be some time after that as bar and people read through that and decide what part of that they should sent to congress. that would be what we could expect to see. we would expect to see a lot of redactions. there's a lot of grand jury testimony involved. i think the public is eager to get as much transparency around this memo as possible. we don't have a commitment on that yet. it's up to barr how of this he wants to show. it's not up to mueller at all in terms of what we the public would see. >> when it comes to this filing set to be put into place by roger stone today responding to judge amy berman jackson, there's time he was in court, it didn't seem like the judge was too thrilled with him.
what are you expecting today? >> he's in a heap of trouble. not only is the judge upset about the instagram post, who framed roger rabbit, but the rerelease of the book which does everything he's not supposed to be doing commenting on the mueller investigation. calling it phony and a witch hunt informal everything he's not supposed to do is in the rerelease of the book, and worse for him, she's not only in her order which required an explanation which is what the filing is for today. she's not only pushing roger stone to find out what he did. she appears to be upset with the lawyers. when you go into court, the most important thing you have is your credibility. and what she's saying to the lawyers is you should have told me about this book. now, it could be -- it's likely roger stone didn't tell the lawyers. the problem is when your liberty is at stake and the people
advocating for you, when they're in trouble too, that's a bad place to be. i would guess that she puts him in the back as we say. she told him he had two chances and he was not going to get a third, and he has -- he has violated the order. >> carol, same judge will be seeing paul manafort on wednesday. when it rains, it's pours. she's known to be pretty no nonsense and tough. how do you see her closing the chapter on manafort coming up in about 48 hours. >> well, there's a lot of discretion here. the judge has up to ten years she can impose on paul manafort, and she can do it concurrently or she can do it consecutively to the sentence he's been sentenced to, the 48-month sentence. i think it's actually very appropriate for her to look at the entirety of his situation to look at the fact that he did receive only 47 months in judge ellis's case, and that she can
now go ahead and say i'm going to impose either five years on one consecutively and five years concurrently, or the entire ten years or anything inbetween, but she's got to be aware that he did get a very light sentence compared to what the sentencing guidelines indicated he should get. >> so then if she does give him the max, gives him the full ten years in his sentencing, do you think that puts a trump pardon into play? >> well, if there's going to be a pardon, i don't think it really matters how much time he's sentenced to in custody. a pardon is a pardon. even 27 mon even 47 months is a significant amount of time. there's a possibility of a pardon but also the commutation of the sentence itself. everybody has a lot of discretion here. >> on the mueller report, adam
schiff was out with chuck over the weekend talking about why he believed robert mueller should be interviewing or should have interviewed president trump in person. jim had a different take. i want to play that for you. >> i do think ultimately it's a mistake because probably the best way to get the truth would be to put the president under oath. >> of course if mueller needed to talk to the president to get at the truth, he should have done it orally. i don't think these written answers would do the trick, but evidently mueller seems to think he has what he needs. >> feels like that debate is kind of a moot point now. right? we don't think mueller is going to be -- it's pretty much done. >> right. we don't really know that. that pretty much done thing is something i haven't had that much confidence in. recognize this. when the department of justice doesn't subpoena people that they know are going to take the fifth amendment. right? so if in any way the lawyers communicated to mueller, you know what, if you subpoena him, we're going to take the fifth,
it would be inappropriate to subpoena him. that may be very well what happened here. i mean, mueller has gotten in my opinion everything -- he's an aggressive smart prosecutors. he's gotten everything he can get. and i don't think criticism here is appropriate. >> cynthia, carol, julia, thank you. we'll catch up with you all soon, i'm sure. anticipations growing over the will he or won't me run question for joe biden. apparently according to new reports if he decides to run, biden might find himself at a fund raising disadvantage. plus new polling showing us what iowa voters want. that's next. because you have e*trade whose tech makes life easier by automatically adding technical patterns on charts and helping you understand what they mean. don't get mad, get e*trade. and i recently had hi, ia heart attack. it changed my life. but i'm a survivor.
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delicious boost® high protein nutritional drink has 20 grams of protein, along with 26 essential vitamins and minerals. boost® high protein. be up for life. all right. listen to this. sources close to joe biden say as soon as this week perhaps the former v.p. may make his decision on whether to run in 2020. we're told his advisers are looking at a potential april launch if he gives them the green light. there's a signal this morning the green light is coming. listen to what the delaware senator hinted at this morning. >> i know you recently spoke with him. is he moving closer to 100? >> he is moving closer. he's someone who i am confident is going to run. i'm optimistic he's going to run. it's everything -- everything is being put in place, but that last decision. which, understandably, is a big decision. >> intriguing. there's a yellow light if biden
jumps in. that's money. biden world sources tell the associated press they're worried he's going to be at a fundrai fundraising disadvantage comp e compared to his opponents who have early small dollar donations. they say biden may be forced to rely on an old grinded out way. nancy and talu are back with me. both of them writing about 2020 as well. kristina, joe biden. it's not just the will he, won't he and all reporting indicates he's leaning toward getting in. once you're in, how do you raise the cash? >> i think we're at a different phase than we've been in when joe biden has run in the past. one, democrats are incredibly enthused and engaged. we're seeing that money come in. i worked for edwards when it was a big deal he raised the amount
of money he did in a quarter, and bernie did it in a day. i expect the enthusiasm around biden will keep up. the question is how long and what do you have to do to keep it up? >> and are people cool with big money donors? >> sure, elizabeth warren has announced he's not doing call time. she's only going to do those -- she's not doing fundraisers which i know a lot of candidates would love to get rid of. probably all of us as democrats would love to see more ability to lean on small dollar donations. it's tough in a field this size. >> there's also reporting that democrats in critical primary states said dude, he cannot hold out that much longer. it's getting harder and harder the longer this drags out. what's the time line for him? >> i think he needs to make the decision pretty soon. >> tomorrow? next week? two weeks? >> he does have 30 years of history and that gives him a little bit more leeway to take more time. but just based on the map and based on the fact there are so many democrats already out there
scooping up staff and a lot of donors, he needs to make a decision quickly. it sounds like he's looking to make the decision in a couple weeks. fundraising is an important part of the decision. he's going to need to show he can raise the funds as well. >> i want to talk about an issue that has come up for another contender in the campaign. there's a new report out from your organization reporting a female aide resigned in protest over how jigillibrand's office handled a complaint. in july a female staffer allegedly repeat -- she also said the male aide regularly made krut crude remarks about h female colleagues and potential hires. gillibrand's campaign says that male aide has since been fired. she says every step of the
process, immediate action was taken by the office. we learned of never before reported and alleged comments made by the individual. the office immediately began another investigation and interviewed relevant witnesses. they have been fired. the woman has remained nom. we have not verified the complaint. for a senator who has made fighting sexual misconduct a hallmark of her time in the senate so far, how do you read this? >> this is a tough issue for anyone who is an employer. you have serious employment issues. you want to have a safe and productive environment for all your staff. it sounds like senator gillibrand, they launched an investigation immediately. they did punish or have some measures taken against this person when they found out more information, they acted quickly. so it sounds like they've tried to stick within the process that
exists, and also take care of their employees. but this is always tough. i for one am glad that senator gillibrand has been a vocal advocate for standing up for women in a number of places where their needs are not always heard. >> let me talk about new polling out in iowa. not the horse race poll. we don't talk about that on this show was it's too early. we're going to talk about what democrats are looking for. 83% said they want a candidate who focuses on democrats' positive energy, not necessarily on taking the fire to donald trump. 81% want to hear about health care. 80% want to hear about climate change as our first three teams put it, the democratic voter in iowa is positive and very liberal on those two issues. >> and we saw that in the midterms. democrats took back the house not on a message of trashing everyday. they took it back by talking about health care. it doesn't surprise me that iowa voters would see the same enthusiasm from democrats p
putting forward a positive message on the economy or health care. and it will just be a very interesting contrast with the trump campaign which as we've seen already is doubling down on a very fear-based, very negative message trying to paint democrats as socialists and now anti-israel. >> what's interesting, the reporting out in the washington post about what republicans are doing to take it to democrats come 2020. you say a 10-person war room has been working to document positions on the green new deal, in medicare for all, abortion, u.s./israel relations. does that signal there might be some democrats running too far left for the general? is that what republicans are banking on? >> that's the risk. republicans think they can make it a binary choice. democrats, if they can drag them down and seem as if they're the most extreme party, then president trump could skirt into reelection. i think that's what's happening
and president trump will have resources. he's raised $100 million and will be raising more. he raised $7 million over the weekend. >> i don't doubt they're going to have the resources. they tried this in the midterms too. they tried to demeanize pelosi and argue that every democrat was going to be a puppet of liberal interests. it didn't work. i think there's an incredible risk of reaching too far, or people don't necessarily believe everything this president says. and i think that democrats are out there talking about what they're going to do for the country. voters like that, and i think we're seeing that in the iowa poll. and i think we're going to continue to see that with what's happeni happening in what's an exciting primary. >> when you go up against the infrastructure the trump campaign seems to be putting in place, they have a massive 2020 infrastructure. but they are running on the 2016 themes. democrats aren't. >> yeah. democrats have moved from the time of hillary clinton and her
policies. they're moving toward more of the bernie sanders approach to policy-making, and i think that's part of what republicans arebacki banking on hoping they make it a tough choice for voters. president trump is also focusing on things that are divisive including immigration and that's making his message much more of a narrow cast message to his base. >> kristina, thank you for coming on. nancy and talu stick around. after the break, swamp watch. new reporting on the surprising number of lobbyists now entrenched on the trump administration.
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we are going to drain the swamp. [ chanting drain the swamp ] . >> drain the swamp. >> battle cry. you know that battle cry from president trump's 2016 campaign. drain the swamp. that's had us on swamp watch on this show for the last two years. this morning "the washington post" is tracking lobbyist
movements. in anl cy 350 people now who work in the administration have worked in the administration or have been nominated. they have represented nearly 3,000 different companies at one point or another. where did most of those folks land? in the executive branch. the president has nearly 50 former lobbyists on his team. noah, thoughts on the numbers? >> well, it's really not a surprise. i mean, this administration -- >> not even the scale of it, noah? >> the scale of it, we should all be shocked by that. having seen two years of this administration, they have consistently put in people from administration, people who have been lobbying. they're putting in basically people from the industries that agencies regulate in the place to regulate those industries. they've essentially sold out government agencies and the
white house. >> yeah. just we saw a recent hire joe grogan, the head of the domestic policy counsel. he is going to be working on drug pricing and that policy. he is a former former drug lobb. he worked for drug companies. that's just one example. i think what noah said is correct. the agencies are essentially being run entirely by industry people. i would argue even more so than the white house. you know, everywhere from the epa to the commerce department, these are people with very, very close business ties and less government experience, in many cases. >> these numbers and the folks are talking about it, people who lobby before they join the administration or in their current jobs. remember, one of the president's -- and you know from covering the trump administration back from the start, one of the first things donald trump did when taking office was to put an executive order to ban appointees lobbying after they leave. that is actually something he's touted at his rallies. >> i've already imposed -- i'm
not sure they're too happy about it -- a five-year lobbying ban on the executive branch officials and a lifetime ban on lobbying for a foreign government. >> so how is that working out? at least six former administration officials are now registered lobbyists. the question from the beginning was, how do you enforce that, noah? >> well, it was never clear that they had a plan to enforce it. there was always an ability to waive it. i think, you know, one of the things this morning's report makes clear, which we and others have been saying from the beginning, is in some ways, an even bigger problem was lobby t lobbyists coming into an administration. the people making decisions in government are people who used to lobby for industry. we now have agencies like epa and interior which are run by lobbyists. that's alarming. >> house democrats are looking at this. one of their big moves last week was to pass the for the people act, this big ethics campaign, finance reform bill.
senate isn't going to take it up, but politically, can democrats point to that to say they are the party of reform, to say they'll be able to take that against trump in 2020? will that matter, do you think? >> i think it is a really important step to be trying to take -- trying to move toward reducing the influence of money in politics, imposing some reasonable ethics regulations. this was way overdue. the fact that mitch mcconnell in the senate and the white house have no interest in moving it along should really bother people. >> you testified on that bill. >> that's right. i testified on particularly the provision to require presidents to disclose their tax returns. i mean, we're talking about really, really basic ethics measures that have fallen by the wayside. this bill would go some way towards -- actually go a significant way towards moving in the right direction. it was a huge step that had actually passed the house of congress. it ought to move further. >> noah, always appreciate you
coming on. thank you. i want to talk about some news that is just breaking into our newsroom. as we talk about what our sources are saying, our sources confirmed to us the dnc has chosen its site for the democratic national convention. it will be milwaukee. that had been the word. that had been the discussion point. now, we know for sure that's happening, thanks to our national political reporter covering the dems. it is an interesting point for democrats. a lot of, can we say, baggage around the idea of milwaukee for them? >> yeah, the president is looking to try to make the same magic he made in 2016 by winning milwaukee, wisconsin, and pennsylvania. democrats saw what they did in 2018, where they were able to make significant fwans sgains states, trying to block the president, his path to 270. wisconsin is a major part of that. i think they're looking to have a conference there that will allow them to springboard into the 2020 elections and take back the blue wall they lost in 2016. >> there had been angst, i think, behind the scenes, some
chatter, nancy, oh, it is not a top tier city, et cetera, hotel rooms, that kind of thing. seems like the dnc is like, hey, it's more important for us to be in the state and put our marker down. >> yeah, the concerns i had been hearing from my reporting was just really logistical concern. there's not enough hotel rooms. it is a smaller city compared to houston or miami or places like that. they were also looking there. i think it makes so much sense for democrats in terms of the map. i think their play is that they're going to try to take back some of the states that trump won, while also appealing to suburban voters, women voters, a lot of whom were turned off by trump during the midterms. >> what are we hearing about the rnc? >> i think announced it'd be in north carolina. >> that's right, north carolina. we have north carolina. we have wisconsin. we'll see how it goes next summer. >> there we go. >> a year ago. my god. we'll be getting ready for that. i want to end with what our sources are saying. you're ending with different
topics. let's start with you. fellow white house reporter, we know the communications director search is now on. the sixth kmun kiecommunication director the white house is looking for now. >> we knew bill shine, the fifth communications director, submitted his resignation. >> in quotes. >> she's doing the quote fingers. >> on thursday. thursday night. the white house officially announced it on friday. what i learned over the weekend was shine's last day was actually friday. the white house is officially without any communications director. i just think it'll be interesting to see this week, does that actually make a difference? the president has always seen himself as the best messenger. >> yeah, nancy, they have a communications director. his name is donald trump. real quick, you're talking with your sources about trackers, right? >> we have trackers out in the field, tracking the democratic candidates in the first three primary states. iowa, new hampshire, south carolina. they're tracking these candidates and trying to get them on film saying things that are negative. they'll be pushed from the left and the right on their
positions. >> thank you both for joining me on set. much appreciated. that wraps us up this hour. there's more to talk about. i'm back for another hour after the break. still to come, he hasn't announced if he's running in 2020, but a conservative republican group is taking direct aim at beto o'rourke in a new ad. that's one of the stories coming up. ming up
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president trump renews his fight for his border wall again, asking congress for more than $8 billion to pay for it. more on what seems to be the first look at the president's road map to reelection. plane crash. some countries around the world ground certain boeing planes after an ethiopian airline jet crashes, killing everyone on board, including eight americans. it's the second accident that type of plane in less than six months. so does it have a safety flaw? and early attack. republicans already going after texas congressman beto o'rourke before he announced he's running. what could have them so worried? lots to get to. we start with president trump and that border wall budget battle yet again. with the white house briefing reporters about all of this as we speak. look on the right side of your screen, the documents themselves delivered to capitol hill earlier this morning. as anybody will tell you, the annual requests are wish lists, right, more than anything else. democrats are already calling it doa, with even some republicans