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chris jansing is back. you're not in my studio because the air-conditioning is broken in here. >> i'm so glad i'm downstairs. thank you, katie, for powering through that. >> hello, i'm chris jansing. a budget for a better america. that is the title page for the white house request for 2020 that has been officially sent to congress. that better america comes at a cost of $4.7 trillion. featuring more for those to build sections of a border wall. a record breaking 35 days and was a battle that trump lost. this isn't the only fight, though. the president preparing to veto a bill that would reverse his declaration of a national emergency to build a border wall. the assessment from top democratic leader on this budget? dead on arrival. >> congress refused to fund his
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wall and the president was forced to admit defeat and reopen the government without getting his wall. the same thing will repeat itself if he tries this again, so we hope he learned his lesson. >> funding legislation must be passed before october 1st, and the president has started to make his case or have his team make the case because last hour we witnessed the first white house press bereaving in 32 days. in. >> the fiscal year to 20 budget provides size able bumt for completion of the wall and other security resources. >> was there anything in the president's budget request that has mexico paying for the wall. >> as the president stated a number of times a new trade deal that we look forward to being
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passed soon, that will be how that takes place. >> that trade agreement is still pending. let's take a look at why this plan is making headlines. i want to start with the ask for 8.6 billion more to pay for the border wall, the u.s.-mexico border. in addition the president wants another $3.6 billion to replenish funds. it is not just the wall funding that is untenable for democrats, the white house proposal dramatically increases the e defense bujd. she also slashing any nondefense spending by 2.2 trillion. by the washington post calculations, the administration's proposing an
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$845 billion cut to medicare. that is completely contrary to the president's repeated 2016 campaign pledge not to cut these programs. previously going as far to say the first and only potential gop candidate to subjeggest there w be no cuts. they also cut the environmental protection agency. the state department, and health and human services department. joining me now jeff bent, garrett haake, and peter baker. jeff as a document of presidential priorities. talk to us about what this tells us and what did we hear frankly at that briefing that's a headline. >> a white house budget is a little more than a presidential wish list.
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submitting this request to congress is like having a job and asking your boss for a raise. and the president shows that he cares about building the wall, defense spending, and less about funding domestic nondefense programs. in this way she a small government republican. he is talking about cuts to epa, the state department, the transportation department, and the department of justice. he said he would protect medicare. this budget calls for an $845 billion to medicare.
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the white house director was asked about it. >> he is not cutting medicare in this budget. we we're putting forward reforms that cut drug prices and it has the impact of finding savings. medicaid spending will go up every year by healthy margins. >> just to pull back the curtain a little bit, we're fact checking that because there is a lot of voodoo math that went into creating this budget. he said he would balance the budget in the court of eight years. it calls for taking 15 years to balance the budget. >> let me go to you, the president is being forced to overturn this legislation, but you have people like senator bill cast i did that is a member of senate financing saying the
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president will get the money in his budget for a wall, here is what he said. >> i think trump will get the money -- >> the $8 plus billion? >> yeah, and the wall will be built, we'll see what the bill finally looks like. but the money will be there, and the wall that the president suggested will be there. >> i'm looking around, i can't imagine a congress where they give president trump anything close to that number. i don't know where they get the idea that he will get that much money there. this is a starting point for a negotiation that will at some point land between that number and whatever democrats are able
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to pull it back down towards, but the idea that he would get more money next year for a wall that was such a huge fight this year doesn't really have a basis. the national emergency declarati declaration, i think you would be hard blessed to declare another national emergency a year from now on anything given the fight they're having on this one there now. they said there might be an amendment that we could see later this week. so watch that space. >> peter, you did a preview and you said that mr. trump's fiscal plan said he will not balance the budget even if he wins a second term. his plan to eliminate the annual deficit and pay off of the entire deficit accumulated over generations, now he is talking about balancing it in 15 years,
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but is anyone even buying that? >> no, there is a debate about whether or not that could happen. they were there for 15 years, if congress were to follow his lead, it is based on a rosy projection of growth. this spending plan assumes that the government will take in a serm amount of money based on a very healthy economy continuing into the future in a way that many economists doubt will happen. they say it is likely to slow down in growth and not continue the same strength they have in the last couple years. even if you assumed that the president could make it happen that is based on some rosy estimates. >> and you could make an argument that the president is handing the democrats a lot of
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political fauder. that it cuts $1.5 trillion in predicate, $845 billion from medicare, and $25 billion from securi social security. is anyone concerned that the president just gave democrats their argument? >> i think it is a good question. republicans will not embrace this either. looking like they're cutting entitlements, there will be some aspects of this they will want to embrace particularly the military spending increases, but you're right i think they will craft their own budgets and in the senate because the democrats have a certain degree of influence there. i think the plan that you will see come to fruition by october if there is appropriations bills passed will look different from where the white house outlined
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today. where does this go next? >> now it will go into the normal appropriations process. >> what is that looking like? that process? given we're in an election year, even though we're not in an election year, we're in an election year. >> senate republicans in particular were very proud last year. and how many of the appropriations bills were bipartisan inning nature. with a house now controlled by democrats there is impe tus to get these things done early. far in advance of the deadlines as possible, members of congress don't want to be here in august fighting about this and they certainly don't want to be in a shut down mode over an issue like the border wall as we get into the fall and the campaign
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season. so i expect a doubled down effort, not leans too heavily on that presidential budget. >> peter baker, always good to see all of you, thank you for that. up next, could president trump's comments behind closed doors intended to be leakproof an indication of the rhetoric that we will hear from him on the 2020 trail. and the black boxes from the ethiopian plane crash have been found. the crash killed all 157 people on board. you're watching msnbc. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. nice. but, uh... what's up with your... partner? oh. well, we just spend all day telling everyone how we customize car insurance, because no two people are alike, so... limu gets a little confused
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president trump appears to be test driving some of his reelection material behind closed doors. democrats hate jewish people, and how could any jew vote for a democrat these days. and the president tried out nicknames for his potential 2020 opponents calling former vice president joe biden, and crazy
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bernie. and talking about elizabeth warren's low pole numbers. i want to talk about something that we saw just a short time ago about those comments made about democrats hating jewish people, take a listen. >> does the president truly believe that democrats hate jews. >> i'm not going to talk about a potentially leaked -- >> does he think democrats hate jewish people? >> i think they had a lot of opportunities in the last due weeks to condemn some abhorrent comments. the president has laid out clearly his position on this matter. democrats had a number of opportunities to condemn specific comments and refiused o do that. they're unwilling to call this what it is, call it out by name, and take action against members that have done things like this.
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>> so i want to be clear, you're not answering the question? >> i believe i answered it twice. >> you didn't say yes or no. >> i think that is a question you should ask the democrats. >> so she dodges the question. i doubt anybody who was collecting those phones before they wasn't into the fundraiser in mar-a-lago thought it would leak out. i wonder what you make of the messaging here? >> look, i don't think any political party hates an entire religion, group of people, or gender. i think at times the rhetoric on both sides can go over the top. the president's trying to rile up people. the democrats had an opportunity to put a resolution on the floor condemning anti-semitic language, and instead they had a resolution in exercise of what
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aboutism. he made those comments in context, talking about the controversial comments by congresswoman omar. so you think this is what gets his base fired up. >> do i think that the democratic party hates juish people? no, i don't, but i think that resolution on the floor last week watered down and essentially protected a member of congress -- >> but that's not what he said as you know, congressman, that's not what he said. >> okay, so i want to go back to something else he said which is all of these names that he gives to democrats and frankly it was
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effective in many cases, it got under the skin of some of his fellow republicans running for president, but here is how politico puts it, many people in his circle wish that he would stop with that. they think other things will carry more weight than his free wheeling arena speeches. >> i think for as much as he says things, that i don't know how he recovers from, he finds away to recover in the poles, and when he just focuses on the job and doesn't say that stuff his numbers increase a little more. i think they have factored in trump the permit and he gets away with other things that
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others could not get away with. i think the american elector rate would give him more credit and he would be in a better position going into 2020. i agree with that. here is what will happen, though. he says no one thought i would get elected, i did it my own way so i'm not going to stop doing what i have always done. the only person he ultimately listens to is himself. >> thank you, congressman. up next, our eyes on the midwest, the contrademocratic committee hosting their convention in milwaukee, wisconsin. a state that 2016 hillary clinton candidate did not campaign in and that trump nearly won. bernie sanders and joe biden, we'll talk about them this and more you're watching msnbc. more you're watching msnbc
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democrats will gather in the midwest next year to anoint the party's nominee to take on president trump, the dnc choosing milwaukee to host their 2020 convention that will be
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july 13th through the 16th. this is the first time they have held it in a mid western city that was not chicago. now the dnc's choice to hold their event in wisconsin is to say the least heavily i'm bollic. the loss focused on hillary clinton not campaigning in wisconsin. she lost that state by less than 23,000 votes. since then that i have elected a democratic senator and governor. it comes as we learn what people in ohio think about the presidential field. according to a poll, former vice president joe biden is the first choice of likely iowa caucus goers. when it comes to the issues that caucus goers want them to talk about, health care, climate
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change, income inequality at the top of the race. student debt, criminal justice reform following, i'm peachmimpt the bomt -- bottom. two thirds of caucus goers support more taxes on people that make more than $20 million in assets. joining us to take a closer look at this, other presidential headlines, our white house correspondent for the pbs news hour. jake sherman is the writer of 'play book." it is early and only iowa, but i thought there was interesting things in this poll, what's your big take away? >> a few things, on the individual permsonalities, it ws
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a popularity contest. joe biden is the most recognizable and he is at the top. number two i would go a step further that the fact that the green new deal has the support of 65 or whatever it is, 67% of caucus goers is absolutely stunning. this is a plan put together by a member of congress that has been there two months, that is incredibly high for something that only registered a blip. so i want to be clear that to me that is stunning and also the tax piece to me is stunning. you're seeing a shift.
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. whether or not it was a winning message is not something they focused on intently to the caucuses in my recollection. but the green new deal thing and taxes the wealthy, here in austin, i thought also interesting mayor pete was at the bottom, but a lot of buzz where you are. did he have a moment and how big of a moment could it be for him? >> it could be a big moment. i think the interesting thing because we're talking about t s this. it is likely they know those people. talking about a popularity contest, people are just starting to get to know this
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mayor. people say they like the fact that he is blunt. yesterday he talked about the fact that he said i have christian values, but do they make me question where vice president mike pence would support a "porn star presidency" talking about president trump in those terms. also i interviewed stacey abrams and what she said over and over to me is that democrats can't out trump trump. and when you think about someone like bernie sanders, he had a very consistent message. billionaires and millionaires need to pay more taxes and the economy needs to be fair. most people should be able to have r u health care. >> jake, i want to talk about this new poll out today and they asked about whether or not president trump should be reelected. jake, okay, jake doesn't have an
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ifb. i can turn this to you. 38% said he should be reelected, but it is time for someone else. there is so much nervousness that donald trump could be elected again. i wonder what you make of that poll. >> in that poll, 40% of republicans said they hope that president trump faces a primary challenger, and 40 to 41% said i'm very happy with him and 19% said i'm not sure. they are wrestling with the idea of president trump, people don't like is actual style, they don't like the flash that he is brash and they don't like the adult film stars attaches to him. and michael cohen that could be an unindicted co-conspirator.
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and the idea they like the policies of the trump presidency. they like the economy, the regulations rolled back, they like that he pulled out of paris accord. they like the iran nuclear deal blown up. the deficit is an finish that he will continue to struggle with and today at the white house briefing. the administration was trying to defend themselves and say the president needed to spend more, for the most part the president and his policies are doing a good job in most republicans minds. the fact that the president when he opens his mouth and goes on a two-hour rant at cpac, people say i don't like this guy's style. >> his style, again we were talking about this earlier, is what he believes got him where he is. who is the person that could beat donald trump for the democrats. we have two b's waiting to
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officially maybe get in the race. joe biden at the top, and beto o'rourke. how would those be game changers? >> i think when it comes to biden he had his entire life to think about a presidential run. he ran twice, he served as vice president, the field is taking shape, a large, robust, and boisterous in a way, the field is taking shape with him on the sidelines. i think there will be a opponent that people say if you're so -- if this is something you're so passionate about what is taking you so long to get in this race? if this is, if you truly believe as many democrats do, that donald trump is a danger to the country, that's what democrats thinking with what is the hesitation. he said he had family concerns but this is now in march. this is not early in the process he needs to get off of the sidelines. thank you to both of you, how long are you staying there? >> i'm out today, i have to go
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back to dc, there is a budget to report on. >> you're correct, ma'am. safe travels, thank you both of you. the democratic field for 2020 is not only large, it's really diverse. and six women are among the hopefuls and there is something unique about this group. the "new york times" senior correspondent susan shira points out this past weekend that for decades in american politics, successful female candidates often belong to political d dynastie dynasties, relying on their famous last names to reassure voters. that has shifted in the last few years. few of the women that won house seats came from powerful political families and none of the six female candidates do either. susan joins us. this was such a great article,
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did some voters resist a candidate in hillary clinton, or meaning this woman, or did they resist women? >> i think that is the great mystery. there was an endless debate about this among democrats, and others, too, you know people would say. now we have a test if any of the six females get through the primary process to become the nominee we can see there are a lot of different women, i ideologies. we have different credentials for becoming president. there is a lot of choices. we'll see if gender is a barrier or if it is something else. .
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it is hard to see if a vice president nominee would be a woman. but having said that do you think we're going to -- historians, will look back on this 20, 30, 40 years ago and say this is the period where we saw change. where women really became part of the conversation for higher level office? >>. >> there is no doubt that hillary clinton was an extraordinary trail blazer. she is a transitional figure in that first of all, she came of age really as the women's movement was coming of age in the united states. she was a brilliant student and an attorney in her own right, had worked on to this special council's office in the house judiciary committee. she had her own kre den tscrede that is a story that we don't see any more and this next group
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of women first of all they didn't have a famous husband or father. as many, many women entering politics did, not all but many, and secondly they have a range of credentials. so hillary clinton checked every box. secretary of state to get the foreign experience, she was a senator, she worked some chirp's issues, she worked in war -- >> i recommend this article, people should read it, i'm also curious how their husbands will be treated on the campaign trail, we saw what happened with some other candidates, different situation from when your husband was former president of the united states. coming up a growing list of countries that grounded their 737 max 8 jets after that deadly crash in ethiopia. should the u.s. do the same. moments ago the faa weighed in.
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jet is getting a lot of attention. it is a brand new hour. sarah is joining me from nairobi, kenya. where are we fwhou this investigation. now that they found those black boxes, the real investigation can begin. there is high pressure at this point that the those on board, no survivors. i was thinking more fvictims, oe was a student at georgetown, university, he was studying law.
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tonight they are mourning his massi passing. the make of this plane, the boeing 737 max eight. this is the same plane involved in the crash in indonesia. they are talking more about what caused the crash. they are all saying they're backing away from this model temporarily suspending it until they know more about what happened in ethiopia, yesterday. >> sarah. just addressed these growing concerned about this type of jet with several countries grounding their fleets. >> here is a statement from bowing. safety is our number one priority and we are taking every measure to fully understand all
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aspects of this accident working closely with the investigating team and all authorities involved. we do not have any basis to issue new guidance to operators. now that is not stopping a lot of people who fly from being nervous. southwest and american have that model in their fleets. american responded saying we have full confidence in the aircraft and crew members. southwest said our fleet of boeing 737 are operating as planned today and we plan to operate the aircraft going forward. investigators are also looking to see if pilot training may have played a role in this. kyle bailey joins me now. can we just talk about what is actually happening on the ground right now? we did get a statement from the faa that says we're on sight,
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we're collecting data, we're keeping in contact, they want us to know we're on top of it. both of those black boxes, the data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder, once we have that investigation they'll be able to ascertain what is going on, the instrument readouts, and the control positioning, that will give them the total picture and a good sense of what took place. where the pilots struggling for control of the airplane. that will all be noted when the block boxes are gone through by the ntsb. >> the answer to that is we don't know. now within a matter of months, you have two of them crashing and burning.
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lots of people have lost their lives, why these countries and airlines outside of the u.s. banning and grounding those plains from now, but u.s. airlines are not? >> most new airplanes have what are called punch lists. so when a new plane comes out and it is delivered to united, american, or delta, they might have thousands of items, quirks, not working properly and they're easily fixed. in this instance it looks like it might be something bigger. the key is they don't know, the investigation is only about a day old and they are probably not going to know until those black boxes are gone through. these statements we're seeing are basically boeing saying the faa saying it is too early to tell, but to play on the safety side, i think the airlines in these foreign countries like china and indonesia are being a little pro active in grounding
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white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders held her first white house briefing in six weeks today. here's one headline. she was asked about testimony by president trump's former personal attorney michael cohen, the president signed checks reimbursing him for payments made to porn star stormy daniels in his first few months in the white house. >> why did the president write a check to michael cohen in august 2017 while he was here in the white house, what was that money for? >> i'm not aware of that specific -- >> he accused of president of engaging in a conspiracy for
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campaign violation -- >> it's been clear there wasn't a campaign violation. >> but the story changed. >> i would refer you back to the president's comments, that wasn't something i'm part of and to the president's outside counsel. >> this comes after a key democrat challenged the handling of a witness in the russia investigation. president trump, will you remember that the president did agree to answer written questions for robert mueller and his team but house intelligence chair adam schiff said it would be a mistake if mueller ended his probe without having the president testify under oath. >> i do think ultimately it's a mistake because probably the best way to get the truth would be to put the president under oath because as he's made plain in the past, he feels it is perfectly fine to lie to the public. i don't think bob mueller should rely on written answers. when you get written answers, it's really the lawyer's answer as much as the client answer and here you need to be able to ask
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questions in realtime. >> looking at this closer, bar ba mcquade, u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan and now professor of usm law school as well as msnbc contributor. always good to see you. is congressman schiff right? >> i think he is, chris. it is not always the case that you ask someone who is the target of an investigation to respond to questions before a grand jury. we don't know whether president trump is a target or subject. we know he's simply a witness. but as representative schiff said, it's very difficult to get accurate answer when's you rely solely on written answers. number one, the person that answers the questions gets the luxury of time to answer them. they can result with their lawyers and think through carefully if they are consistent with other statements made. you don't get to observe body language about whether the person is being truthful and you don't get the chance to ask followup questions. most of the time when someone
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wants to ask a question, you would much rather do so face to face so you can make those assessments about truthfulness. >> let me ask you about a msnbc news report that the president's responsible for the ethics and financial disclosures appear to be unwilling to cooperate with the request from the house oversight committee for a transcribed interview later this week. the committee chair there, elija elijah coupling because they can help determine if the president committed crime in relation to the stormy daniels payment. what significant information would these attorneys have about this? >> i believe they assisted president trump in preparing his government and ethics financial disclosures, all high-level government officials are required to disclose all of their financial expenditures, income, revenue and it appears he failed to disclose these payments to stormy daniels through michael cohen on those documents. so in talking with those lawyers who assisted him could be very useful in finding out why these
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payments were not included. was it merely an oversight, did somebody forget about them? or was it a deliberate effort to conceal these payments from the government and public has a whole. so i think that's the purpose behind wanting to ask those questions. >> there's a whole series of things coming up to week, i think wednesday, thursday and friday related to some of the investigations and some of the sentencing that have come out of the mueller investigation but i think what a lot of people will be watching for is what's going to happen with paul manafort? all of the controversy that happened when the judge went well below the sentencing guideline but now he's going to be sentenced in the d.c. case. what are you expecting there? >> i think we're likely to see a higher sentence. it's difficult to predict any time a judge has the discretion to impose a sentence but the judge in this case, amy berman jackson, can sentence him up to ten years and i think it's likely she will impose at least some of that sentence consecutive to the sentence. >> you do, you think it will be
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consecutive? >> i think some of it will be because there's different conduct. to reflect there's additional punishment, for example, the obstruction of justice in witness tampering, typically is imposed consecutively to other conduct to reflect it's a separate crime from the underlying conduct. so i do think so. and also don't forget, this is a judge who's had a chance to see first hand some of the other activities paul manafort engaged in even beyond that, which is charged in his indictments. she revoked his bond upon a finding of witness tampering, made a finding paul manafort lied when not cooperating. she had a chance to see it beyond the four corners of the indictment in the plea agreement so i think it's likely we will see a higher sentence here and i think some of it will be consecutive to the sentence imposed by judge ellis. >> barbara mcquade, always good to talk to you. thank you. ood to talk to you thank you. not this john smith. or this john smith.
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i may be in the chair for ali velshi today but he's hardly had the day off. he spent the afternoon participating in a women and business forum hosted by the economic club of new york and council of canada and france. ali sat down with the former chairwoman and ceo of pepisco to talk about gender equality and the advancement of women in leadership roles as far as research showing a difference in
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women in economic performance and women in senior positions. i have no doubt he did a great job. he'll be back here in this chair tomorrow at 3:00 p.m. eastern time. i'm chris jansing. thank you for watching. "deadline: white house" with nicolle wallace starts right now. hi, everyone, it's 4:00 in new york. with the convicted felons in donald trump's circle facing critical court deadlines in the coming days and special counsel robert mueller entering the homestretch of his investigation, this is the week we're expecting to learn more about what mueller's investigators and prosecutors have unearthed and how much of their evidence might be made public. politico writing today about the updates we're expecting the next few days and a slew of cases in court this week, quote, combined the spate of moves will generate an avalanche on the additional attention on the $64,000 question about mueller's end game and where he has more criminal indictments up his

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