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day. thank you for watching us and i am nicole wallace. hi chuck. >> hi nicole. >> how are you doing? >> i am all right, i am all right. i am ready to go. it is 2020, baby. >> thank you, nicole. >> it is thursday, well it be beto boom or beto bust? ♪ good evening, i am chuck todd in washington. welcome to one of the bigger days we have yet in the 2020 race. before most people were awake, beto o'rourke made it official. announcing he's running for president, he spent his first day on the campaign trail in iowa. his big kickoff scheduled late in the month in his hometown el pa paso. the candidate can be summed up
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as is this guy for real. o'rourke's ability bringing in big crowd and big money making him a big star. the number one most mentioned candidate anywhere is beto o'rourke where ever we went on the road. it is what gives him my promise as a 2020 candidate, if he can do it again. o'rourke presented his candidacy and aspirational terms. he's running on a promise that he can stitch all together the rival factions of the democratic party and ultimately the country. >> we have never been more divided or polarized or ridden by partnershisanship. we need to come together and find things we share in common and go after it get it done. that's the way i want to operate going forward. >> on the policy front, o'rourke is playing it safe. he reserves his full throw of endorsements that broaden the democratic party like marijuana
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legalization and raising the minimum wage but beyond that he was vague. >> i can careless of your party persuasion or religion, anything of the fact that we are americans and all human beings and we do everything in our power for one another for this great country and every generation that follows. this is democracy. >> in this very crowded democratic field, some candidates have trying to stand out on policy, beto o'rourke is not one of those candidates. we have seen this before, it is usually boom or bust, which is it going to be for beto? joining us now is our own garret haake and kornell belcher and our msnbc analyst and a long time follower and reporter of beto's career.
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garret, let me start with you. it was in that phenomenon g-whiz kind of atmosphere. now cover him on his day one as a presidential candidate. any differences or does it feel the same? >> reporter: the atmosphere transfers pretty well. the difference here folks did not know beto o'rourke, he never set foot in iowa before this. while people were familiar with him because of the senate campaign, they have not seen a lot of him. maybe they see a little coverage on tv. he was a curiosity but everyone i talked to after this event came away incline towards him. people are not rushing to vote just yet, o'rourke brought whatever he has in terms of charisma and message up here. it was fascinating to see him adapting his texas campaign iowa. he got asked questions about tariffs and he went on talking about farcmers in texas that he
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had dealt with and how that would be effective. he did his homework. he had the stats of percentages of iowa crops that are exported. watching him make that transition will be interesting, can he adapt fully to the stage? i have to say if you are somebody who's a fan of his, you are probably pleased, he did not get tripped up in any questions and he took questions in every event this is a seen of confident. this thing i have been asking is how much money did he raise today? that's one of the big signals earlier on. can he play at this level against other democrats when it is not just the guy who won in the country and democratic side would like to beat ted cruz. >> garret, you got back and forth with him and i am not going to get you comment on it, i want to get abby to comment on it. take a listen to garret's question and o'rourke's answer.
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i want to know how familiar that is to you. >> what do you uniquely bring to the table? >> you are asking me to define myself in contrast of other people, it is not the way i work. >> god love him for essentially figuring out how to duck questions and all that stuff. that's skillfully, that's a skill that you don't easily learn. >> well, just how he would not engage. the first interview i did with him was two years ago on the day where he launched the senate campaign. we talked for an hour and he never mentioned senator ted cruz. i didn't realized it until it was over. we talked about it but he never said his name. he does not seem to have a lot of interest engaging until he has to which he did do at the end of the campaign. >> how was that like? i have to say i never -- i have always believed he didn't win because ultimately, there was a campaign to run against cruz
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that could have peeled off for republican votes. he, the one that trash trump or with trump. he never wanted to go that route. will he ever go that route? >> i don't know. the weakest point in his senate campaign was the debates. you can tell senator cruz got underneath his skin. so it will be interesting how he handles this. this is not one-on-one. it is one verses 20 for the next year. >> that's a lot easier for o'rourke. >> possibly. >> kornell belcher. >> yep. >> what is beto o'rourke to you? i sit here and i wonder -- is he barack obama 2.0 or is he gary hart 2.0 or jon edwards. sort of fast rising comments that burnt out as fast as they rise or sustaining comment like barack obama? >> i was struck by a couple of
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things i heard this morning. he talked about movement and this is not about me, it is about you. and, that was really reminiscing of obama. i think there is a couple of things that's positive for him. i don't get the policies back and forth. there is probably not much difference in policies in anyone in this field. i don't think it is going to be fundamentally and democrats have landed on a set of policies that they're going to be unifying around. can he be that generational change agent? can he own the anti -- you and i talked about it before. bernie did as well as he did against hillary clinton because he was the antiestablishment candidate. can he compete in the antiestablishment candidate and
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strongly in the next generational change lanes where he'll be competing with people like booker as well. i think this is fascinating. >> you spent a lot of time, we made you cover a lot in iowa covering presidential campaigns. iowans led to the optimistic candidates left to right. i can go back to my history. the nice guy candidate could find traction in florida. like lamar alexander found tractions in iowa and could not find it anywhere else. the guy candidate can do that. is he too nice? >> reporter: i don't know, chuck, he went out of his way to say nice things of all the democrats running later. there is time for sharp elbow later. look at where he's starting. we are in south eastern iowa.
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he's going to counties that's obama counties that's flipped to trump. he's showing outreach to people across the state in a way that says something about our broader strategy here. yeah, i think the nice guy part of it is absolutely there. he talked about donald trump and he talked about anybody in this field being better than donald trump, it is clear that he wants to fight trump on policies and does not want to get down in the mud with him and he's not going to do that with his fellow democrats. it will be interesting to see how it plays out. the iowans that i talked to were inclined of what they heard today. >> that's civility plays extra well. >> reporter: midwest nice. >> abby, if somebody comes up to you and you are covering beto o'rourke and they say how do i figure out what make this guy ticked? how would you say that? >> the first time he struck me
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was i cover 38 members of congress, he's one of 38. the house democrats took over the chamber one night several years ago and sort of had a sit-in. >> was this on guns? >> yes, by john lewis. paul ryan cut-off the cameras, beto o'rourke live streaming the activities. >> first time he popped up. >> it gets picked up on c-span. he comes out. he's been doing this for 18 hours and he seized the opportunities. i don't think he was trying to get attention. he saw an opening and he took it. that's what he did in the senate race, nobody else wanted to run for this and he seized it. >> what should we take away from that? >> i don't know. i am curious of how this is going to work as president. the vanity fair profile, nothing spoke to me as how are you going to handle your osama bin laden
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moment. that's my central question, how are you going to handle that moment, i don't think he explained that yet. >> cornel, how do you run against beto? a charisma candidate that you can't really wedge. >> two things, one, seizing the moment is what it is all about. he's spot on for seizing this moment. i think he ran like the same way barack obama did. not tested and can you trust him with the football. >> let me stop you there. that was hillary clinton and john mccain of his various opponents there who dripped with resumes and experience. donald trump did not wal
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walk -- beto o'rourke has more political experience running right now than donald trump did before he started running. >> and you just gave beto o'rourke's contrast argument. it is different from the general election verses the primary so to focus on the primary that if you win the primary and you are elizabeth warner or senator harris, i think you try to use his youth and energy against him. you try to take the strength and use the strength against her. >> you know garret, i was thinking today beto o'rourke's message is joe biden's message. it is just a different generation selling it. >> reporter: yeah, there is this element of i want to be the guy that brings the country together. biden is selling a throw back to the obama presidency bringing
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the country together. o'rourke is trying to say i can bring this country together in this way, in this future. he got asked a question of world broad ban. this is like the least sexy issue for most people. he cracked a joke kind of on the side, well, if we can't get it done, people don't have tinder and meet the love of their life. do you think donald trump or justine sky biden can make a reference to a dating app? it was one of those tiny moment that caught my attention. that's the kind of thing we'll see out if you get beto and biden down the road. that's something we can all relate to. >> garret, cornell, abby, thank you, guys. >> it is nice to lead our show with 2020, it is coming.
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i have never seen so many hand movements. is he crazy or is that just the way he acts? >> i have never seen hand movement, i watched him doing some kind of a news conference and i have never seen anything like it, study it. i am sure you will agree. >> welcome back, that was president trump's first reaction of beto o'rourke's reaction. a curious comment of someone knowing a thing or two of hand gestures. >> joining us eric fagan and doug thornell.
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>> what i found is interesting of beto o'rourke, if you are under the age of 40, oh, this is interesting. if you are over the age of 40, you are thinking i have seen these comments before. you are not thinking obama or garret hark, depending on i am your age. i don't mean to go back. >> that's rue. first of all, let me say it was a lot of hand movement in that video. trump was accurate about that. i think beto o'rourke is a gifted politician and i think we saw in 2018 a magnitudism and ability that connected with crowds that few people have shown. barack obama have shown it. is he ultimately in the context of running against very talented other democrats.
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is he going to show the gravitas and chops on policies when the debate started in a couple of months to come across a serious minded guy. everybody watches through the presidential, when beto o'rourke says i am about herch and republican or democrat, i am going to bring it all together. that's on the same plane of unrealism ultimately. >> right. >> can he be convincing? >> even though you work for a texan and we are walking about beto o'rourke. a texan. he does strike me as a good iowa candidate. when you think of the iowa,
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iowan iowans thhave this. they're looking for hope. >> they are. unique state pliolitically. you have certainly a progressive base there. but, i think candidates get a lot of points, a, for showing up. it is interesting that he started his tour not only in eastern iowa but south eastern iowa. >> george w. bush did that. so i thought it is an interesting mode. i agree with john. ultimately in a race from texas, he was the idea, we was greagai cruise and trump. he's going to have political skills politics right next to him on the debate stage so they'll do well, too.
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he wears well in a cultural sense perhaps. i don't think he wears well in a policy sense long-term for the democratic base who does not want nerve to get them off. >> barack obama in '07, benefited greatly from that was a highly skilled field he ran against. the very smart successful people sort of punished him aly bit and forced him to be a policy person. it was not just bill clinton. richardson was the after thought and that was a very good candidate. >> who could make beto o'rourke in this deal? >> i think biden if he gets in. >> in obama was helped so much by that field and made him stronger in the general election against mccain. what i am looking for from beto
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is whether or not he's able to draw clear contrasts to the other democrats. what i don't think he did that as much as he probably should have against ted cruz. this is important on the debate stage, in hatown halls his fantastic. when he's on a debate stage, he only has five or six minutes to make his point, if he's still low on the name id scale of the party, how does he breakthrough? does he breakthrough on his permit or drawing contrast with misopponent? >> it is the debate stage is where he asked -- he's going to have to do it. >> i was going to say, vanity fair, this is an interesting way to launch. >> it was accidental last night.
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>> it is an annie lob liebowitz. >> i do, i think i would be good at it. i want to be in it. i am born to be in collide. i want to do everything that i can within this country. >> frgi along can fix it, donal trump, i am born to do this. >> one of the things that barack obama had was a very healthy self regard and he had to walk a line between not looking like he was too school for school. >> he sometimes crossed it. >> i am byron, baby.
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>> he's got to be careful of his own persona for this race. >> i i agree with that. there is a whole different race event of barack obama so many years ago. you are going to get more people breaking through. the i believe the base, the deputy i can party a few kweyea ago is so hungry to win. they want trump feed at whatever cost that's required. it is nice talk and platitudes are going to work in this election? i don't think so. >> it worked if they believe he's the most deselectable in the elections. >> i see folks are disagreeing with the nominee if they
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believer he can beat trump. >> we put up guys, it was a quote we had the last segment. >> let's me play the quick sound lite. we'll get a second. does the issue, you know, do you want to nominate someone that entices trump to make immigration, be all in and in his interview, chris hayes. he turned down the waurls that are there. if you believe the strengths of donald trump is the immigration issue then beto o'rourke may be the best person because he's a border, he lives on the border, he knows about this issue inside and out. he even talked about it in terms of people down there where people understand. he can talk about blue power in
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this country. maybe beto o'rourke can't talk about it. do it in a way that's high minded and not so ugly as the way that trump does it. >> let's talk about the rest of the field. beto o'rourke is taking up a big chung. i think we have this in cheer. i think this is very hard for cory booker. i think it is bad for amy klobachar. how damaging could he be? >> i think we'll have a reality check for frill 15th, that'll be the first reality check. the debates after that, remember though the finance part of it, $9 million in 2018 or twice as much as a democratic candidate.
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in october of 2018, he raised $38 million. that's more than bernie sanders raised in any quarter of 2025. >> i think it is likely tomorrow on this show we'll report that beto o'rourke. >> i remember your campaign at that time and was it 10 million or 25 dlals? >> here is what by the weto o'r has going fob him is texas. if he can survive the could be this in this program for a long time. anyway, sarah and doug stick around, we'll go live to capitol hill with a senate's bipartisan
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built for the strangest of all creatures. welcome back tonight to "2020 vision." the senate just passed a bipartisan rejection of president trump's national emergency declaration o to fund a border wall.
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republicans spoke with the president. republicans know there is some political parrel. tom till lhom tillis who's one first to vote against the president unexpectedly changed his position and wait investigated to support him. take a listen. >> today i come to the floor to say i do not intend to vote for the resolution of disapproval. >> as i said, he was the first republicans to do this, the first one of being went so far to explain himself in writing. what chaengngedd hayes mind. there cor corey gardner was undecided and
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a use of national emergency power to circumvent congress's funding is unprecedented. no presidents have used the national emergency act in this way. >> this is not about the president or about the border security. >> this president or this declaration is a dangerous president. >> welcome back, those are three of the twelve republican senators voted with the democrats overturn trump's
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emergency declaration. the president tweeted just one word "veto." >> the republicans controlling the senate reputed the president. it voted yesterday. the saudi arabia-led war in yemen. kasie hunt is joining us now from capitol hill as well as the panel is back, john harwood and dug f bough farnel. >> i would have taken the number 10 to 12. i never thought you would get to 12 without sass, tillis and gardner. that's the surprise of this end result result. >> reporter: the point you were making before the break were the right one. who are the people who are most worried of president trump's support in 2020. whether or not he's going to stand behind him because you know they frankly face a
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potential primary challenges before they get to general election and they're going to meet the president, getting the base out to vote for them or they really have much less hope. so, i do think it was a really interesting political play on their part and i also think the overall number really tells you just how angry republicans are about this. as you noknow well, republicans have not broke with the president of any sorts of irregularities. a lot of discontent and you have rob portman doing what he did really sends a message that the president should take, yes, this is one issue where he's angry and focused on it. i think it is indicative. >> kasie, 12 means what? 12 people comfortable enough to vote against the president. how many in that caucus were really against him on this? >> i certainly think it is those
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three. mitch mcconnell was against him. he said before. he just agreed to go along and try to convince to go with the president because he did not want the government to shutdown again. it would have been a -- senator cornyn is in the same boat trying to do what the leadership wants h i am him to do. mcconnell coming out of these lunches, it dmouoes not feel he making a hard sell. he knows where his people are. that's what he's extraordinary good at and he recognized it is a huge problem. >> sarah fagan and even they're going to have tough decisions like tillis and gardner. let me read you sass's
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statement. he's the most surprising. >> today's resolution does not fix anything because the root of the problem can't be fixed with bare-chuckled politics but rather with a deliberate debate about pouwers. >> not one of these senators came out and said trump is wrong about the wall. some of them don't agree with trump but they all hid behind the separation of powers argument. >> doug, i have to say, i don't know what's worse, being on the wrong side of your party's leader or giving your opponents the opportunity to call you flip-flopper. i think tillis is playing with fire here.
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he's on the record and bold coming out early. >> very authentic. looks like you are making a decision. looks like you are making decisions based off on politics or pauling. tillis is going to be in trouble and we should mention mcsally voted for the president on this as well. she's going against markle kell in a tough race. voters will forgive you if you vote against something you believe in. if you go back and forth, that's when it is very hard t to -- especially if you made clear of what your principles are. >> i mean thom tillis could not have been clearer on these are my principles and he articulated them in the newspaper and he voted the other way. and, you know, it goes without saying, this emergency declaration with a broad electric is not popular.
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>> the only thing i would say to tillis' defense is he's going to have some headaches over the way this unfolded. this is not like obamacare vote. >> that's right, that's right. >> does it really penalize him? at the end of the day, probably not. >> kasie hunt, can we have a larger conversation here, the president asked for money and congress said no. the president declared national emergency, congress said no. he's going to do it anyway. he's basically defined congress twice. we are not seeming to have that conversation here. the president is so comfortably ignoring the power of the legislative branch. >> he absolutely is. one of the reasons why it feels as though it is easy to overlook because this fits right into the pattern of how president trump has treated the norms and usual
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ways of how things work here here in washington. this happens because we are living in an area of divided government. if paul ryan still lives in the house of representatives, this resolution would never go in the senate. he's living in this new reality and it is a take away for voters. they're voting in these democrats really did actually make a difference. there would have been so many moments like this in the first two years of president trump's time in office. had there been a divided government, it underscores to the degree of republicans here at the capitol. we talk about this a lot. it is incidents like these help illuminate how much they roll over and give the president what he wanted.
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>> kasie hunt. ever once in a while you get fascinating votes and this is one of them. >> it is going to be fascinating whether they engage in this debate. >> all right, panel is sticking around. candidates are responding to the college admissions scandal and why i am obsessed of what's behind all of it. behind all of it treatments like keytruda with chemotherapy really break through barriers that we had not too many years ago. (avo) another tru story with keytruda. in a clinical trial, significantly more patients lived longer and saw their tumors shrink than on chemotherapy alone. (dr. kloecker) it's changed my approach to treating patients. (avo) keytruda may be used with certain chemotherapies as your first treatment if you have advanced nonsquamous, non-small cell lung cancer and you do not have an abnormal "egfr" or "alk" gene. keytruda helps your immune system fight cancer, but can also cause your immune system to attack healthy parts of your body. this can happen during or after treatment
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as a parent, how much sympathy do >> that was senator elizabeth warren on "morning joe" weighing in on the massive cheating scandal. welcome back to "the lid." by the way, beto o'rourke was asked about this and i'll give you a minute as to why i think this fits right into everybody's presidential campaign. here's beto on this. he just was asked this afternoon. >> you have people who have the discretionary income to spend millions to cheat, to get their child into college and you have other people who cannot even come up with $800 for tuition to send their child to school doing it the right way. this is symptomatic of an economy that really does not work for everyone right now and works for some. and every single day that we fail to come together to fix this, we compound that problem -- those problems and that inequality. >> i'm going to leave out the fact that i think he's going to
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end every statement about a policy proposal with, "that's why we all need to come together and fix this problem," which is always staying on message. but what's interesting to me, doug, when you look at whether it's trump's campaign of 16, us versus them, the system is rigged against you, or elizabeth warren. this scandal is just symbolic of what, frankly, these populist politicians have been raging against. >> it's what the american people are so frustrated, with big institutions, right? that the rules don't seem to apply to people who are well off, the rich, corporations. that if you've got money, you can circumvent the system. and that it's rigged against lower middle class folks, poor folks, urban folks, rural folks, right? if you're an african-american living in an urban area or a white electrician living in a blue collar town, you have these same feelings, that the system is rigged against you. and stories like this just totally highlight that. >> the one thing, john, is, on
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the one hand, pooi've been wait for trump to just jump on this. and on the other, i'm thinking he's self-aware enough to know, wait a minute, a lot of people might actually know how i got into penn. but it is actually tailor made for his base. >> but how he got into penn and how jared kushner got into harvard -- >> as we know, that's the back door, not the side door. >> exactly. look, as doug just indicated, the underlying reality is the fact that the vast majority of americans have simply not been moving ahead the way the people at the top have, especially people with skills and education. and when you talk about, as doug said, in rural areas, whites in particular, white men, in urban areas, african-americans, latinos, if you don't have college degrees and special skills, the economy is not rewarding you, even though it's booming and doing very well for corporations and very well for people who do have high skills.
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and people are frustrated by that and that's been fueling populist politics throughout the developed world and in the united states. >> how would you be running against this? >> well, i mean, look, i think they're right. this is quintessential, you know, elites sort of rigging the system for their families. but i actually think it speaks to a broader problem in society, which you were getting at. which is, actually, you know, most people obsess about getting their kids in good schools and do all of these things to help them get ahead and we're in ground zero here in washington in that space. and you're right, you know, you're opening monologue before the break is like, it's sort of ridiculous. >> can we slow down a little bit here? >> and these rich people can pay for it the right way if their kids get in. the problem is the lengths which they're going to get their kids in these schools. >> and we've also sent this message, if you don't, you lose. you know, mike rowe, somebody was saying to me about this today, the biggest winner out of
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this should be mike rowe. he's an actor, but also an activist, the "dirty jobs" guy, he has a foundation that pushes the idea of the version of work that's dignity and all this stuff. it seems to me that maybe that we should have a reality check about that, too. >> there's a whole cottage industry of trying to make going to an elite school so important so that parents do these types of crazy, illegal things, where they're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to try to get their kid into usc or yale or whatever. where i actually think we need to, as a society, maybe put more emphasis on not just like elite universities, but, you know, the two-year schools or going to a trade or -- >> just skills! life skills. whatever that means. >> technical skills. right, exactly. and you can make a damned good living, you know, not making $100,000, $150,000, go to a trade -- if you have a trade, if
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you're in pa unia union. and we've lost track of that. >> my point is, very few people are doing things illegally. most people are spending lots of money to maneuver to get -- and do it all above board. >> by the way -- >> the small slice of americans who have the money. >> that's right. but they're all doing it and only a very small percentage of them did something illegal. but people on the bottom echelon of the income bracket, they don't even have the ability to pay for extra horn lessons or tutors or any of those things. >> guys, i'll leave it there. this was a great day for this panel, so thank you all. up ahead, washington is going green. is it aoc's green, though? we'll be right back. aoc's green? we'll be right back.
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well, in case you missed it, there's a different kind of green new deal taking over washington today. st. patrick's day is coming up this weekend and your nation's capital is getting ready several days early, of course, because congress doesn't have time to hang out here for st. paddy's day. they have to go on recess. so the white house fountain is dyed green today in celebration of irish culture and heritage. the tradition started pretty recently, it was in 2009 by the o-hyphen-bamas. they swear they dyed the chicago river green since 1962. it's not the natural color, they claim. and we spotted plenty of green on the hill today, as well. nancy pelosi and mitch mcconnell
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both dressed for the occasion. hey, who says there's no bipartisanship anymore? so it was an old green deal today, not the new green deal. that's all for tonight. by the way, we did note they celebrated st. paddy's day on pi day. we'll be back on monday. "the beat" with ari melber starts. happy pi day to you, brother. >> happy pi day. i was never good at math. >> i never met a lawyer who was. >> english major is for a reason, in my case, political science. it's near the letter 3, is something i remember. >> and as a lawyer, you could argue either side. it's 3 or could be not. >> and what is 3, really? >> exactly, what is 3. >> thank you, chuck. we have so much news to cover tonight. i believe this is going to be a very special show. let me tell you why. first, a "beat" exclusive tonight. breaking news, i just got off the phone with chairman cummings' office and he's told us exclusively about new document requests in response to actually an interview about stormy daniels h


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