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right now i turn you to my friend halle jackson. >> got to love a pup story. i'm halle jackson where this morning the demes are running, running away in the terms of one candidate on a fundraising front. more info from beto o'rourke, looking at what he is not telling us after that eye popping money news. plus, over at the white house, the president is carrying his twitter tirade into the new workweek, using social media to among other things, force his defenders to defend him, specifically on racism and islamaphobia. >> that rant happening as new zealand tries to heal. 50 people in that terrorist attack. we have more on the gunman's twisted plot. the red flag with our allies. our team is set one this coverage coast to coast. we start this morning in trump country. where one of those 2020 contenders beto o'rourke is swinging into michigan, ohio,
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eventually back east to pa, all states that donald trump won in 2016. which says something about hit strategy. but it's o'rourke's money moves making headlines this morning. 6.1 million in his first 24 hours according to campaign. we don't know who these people are. the campaign, rather, declining to get specific on for example average donations or number of new donors, the candidate, himself, is cleaning up a few clumsy comments as the potential competitor get some buzz with his own freudian slip of the the ung. >> i am the most progressist party of anybody who would run. >> whoops, nbc warrior, o'rourke wrapped up on set, elly vitale is off the campaign trail and joining me and white house correspondent for npr and jake sherman msnbc political
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contributor and senior writer for split colorado friends of this show all. let me start with you. you have been with o'rourke, did he answer some of the questions related to those specific donations? >> reporter: yes. and no, halle. look. this is not something o'rourke the person wants to be talking about a great deal on the campaign trail. but his campaign wants us to talk about it and wants it to be known how strong his fundraising efforts were. he did not mentiont in his campaign stop, afterwards, we asked him about it. o'rourke described his campaign number as a proof of concept for what he is trying to do. take a listen. what message due hope that message sends to your opponents, your supporters? >> i hope it's sending a mablg for people out there looking for a different way to run a national race. a race that is premised on our faith. >> reporter: do you know what
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your average contribution was? >> i know people contribute fareed every state in the union. >> reporter: o'rourke told we reporters he didn't want to be talking about this he wanted to focus on northeast iowa. you note, he doesn't bring out the specifics, how many were new donors, how many were folks in texas that might have been familiar with him before. that's not the kind of thing, halle, it's notable in the sense that it dove tails of what i heard is maybe the main criticism of o'rourke at these things. people come away feeling inspired. they think he is a great and hopeful speaker. people tell me they hope he would be more specific about policy. the lack of specifics is one thing. they want to hear more about specifics on policy. to that, o'rourke says, we have been in there a few dathis /* - for a few days.
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>> there are other candidates getting specific on policy. money matters as it relates to sort of getting the candidate on the trail, resources. so does organization, right? . >> yeah, so far he has not built up a huge organization. he's had a small team that helped on the senate race as well. much of the campaign focuses on beto o'rourke behind the car behind the wheel driving from place-to-place. the next hurdle is staffing up. it's hiring campaign manager and figuring out foreign policy advisers and to garrett's point, trying to build out some of the specifics that on the campaign trail, he does talk in quite broad terms. he's also opened with what he doesn't know at these town halls. he needs to figure that out. i think that will require a
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building up of this apparatus, also doing it in the style he wants to do is which the is a unique one. >> he is confronting this idea that in a field where many voters are eager for diversity, you rourke is a white guy. he is talking about that. you can talk about slip-ups, controversial values, raising his kids, born to run. amy klobuchar was asked about that on this set with chuck on "neat the press" yesterday, watch. >> i wasn't born to run for office. just because growing up in the '70s in the middle of the country, i don't think many people thought a girl could be president. i wasn't born to run, but i am running. >> so here's what o'rourke said about his acknowledgement of how he's come up. >> as a white man who has had privileges that others could not
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depend on or take for granted, i've clearly had advantages over the course of my life. i think recognizing that and understanding that others have not, doing everything i can to ensure there is possibility for advancement and advantage for everyone is a big part of this campaign. >> so there is a thing they talk about with women in politics, which is that men wake up in the morning, they look in the mirror, they see a president or a potential president. women wake up in the morning, they look in the mirror, they see themselves, their flaws, whatever. so there has been sort of the way klobuchar is talking about, there is that shift for female politicians. it's sort of a bigger leap and you know remarkably, this is the most diverse field of candidates that has been rung for president ever and the names that are getting the most attention, talked about the most right now are beto, biden and bernie, all
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men. white men. why is that? >> who knows? i'd ask voters, especially, women, do you want to vote for a woman? they will say, i have time to decide, it's still early in the process kind of thing. with kirsten gillibrand. she has a lot of policy. >> she has built a campaign on women. she leans into being a mom. in that town hall, she is probably going to delveer deeper into the weeds we seen beto dive. he is quite shallow at this point. she is won that wants to have that conversationch i think they want to hear about policy and want someone with star power and can beat trump. i wonder if all those things can live in the same place. >> if i were a candidate, i wouldn't be saying anything
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about policy right now, i wouldn't say anything spec, i would be raising money, doing what beto is doing, going to states, forget iowa. >> he's in trump country. man. >> get buzz, get excitement. talk in broad terms. you can't get away with it in february 2020. >> this is michigan, looking live. >> it's a good look. i do agree. listen. i think a part of the reason we're talking about beto and biden specifically is because beto just got in and biden is doing the longest dance to be seen ever. and by the way there is no sign he is getting in soon. >> i don't know about that our biden whisperer has indications from his sources that braps the announcement will be coming in a matter of weeks. >> fine. >> it's interesting this morning. we will play this sound byte. donald trump has seen this sound byte, where joe biden makes the
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mistake saying he will run. the president got tongue tied, he was unable to deliver a simple run. get used to it. another low iq individual. i want to play that sound and talk about that tweet for a second. >> i get criticized. i am told i am criticized be i the new left. i am the prophet progressive record running, about anybody who would run. i didn't mean --. of anybody who would run. >> matt viver, the fact that the vice president is saying that does that mean he has his eyes on who he sees is the biggest threat to him in joe biden? >> i don't know he's like a color commentator on the democratic race. he's been doing this making fun of amy klobuchar in the snow, making fun of beto o'rourke's
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hand movements. i think he is offering tv and offering commentary as candidates come. i do think biden, this imstraights what people love about biden is this sort of slip of the tongue and gaffes and is a challenge as he runs and veers off script. it's sort of the challenge for his advisers and his team that he will go off script quite often. >> matt, jake has an interesting script. you can get to talk about it. maybe it wasn't, in fact, a freudian slip. >> i do think he has been in this game for way too long to make a slip. >> you think he did it on purpose? >> i have no indication to indicate that i was completely spitballing here. what do you think about that? >> i think that's possible. if it turns to biden while beto is certainly getting a lot of
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attention. those two i think are ones to watch in terms of rivalry. they are competing for more rivalry space in the party. they're not veering quite as left as others in the field. i don't know. i'll buy into this theory with you. >> let me ask you this, matt, you make a good point, the former vice president has positioned himself as this guy who can let o'rourke go out to michigan, out to wisconsin, go out to these places and try to pull in that sort of blue collar voter. joe biden has framed himself as this middle class joe. he watched his bank account go. now, to that point, there are a lot of rich people in this rails. joe biden is not of the richest. right? he does have mo in? >> yes. >> is that it? end of story? >> i don't know, there was this guy that had like a billion dollars or claimed to have billions and billions of dollars and said. >> that he was going to be a
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populist for the middle class? >> right, what was it the blue collar billionaire? >> at this point i don't think anybody can market what they want. >> it's less about money and stuff like that than it is about the things that he did in the senate. i think the thing that i have been hearing from democratic strategists and some people he has a policy on thing and ain it that hearing that now in the light of the 2020 may not look like they did at the time. >> thanks to the both of you, tam, jake, stay right where you are. for both of you, a quick programing note, vis hayes is sitting down with kirsten gillibrand for a town hall at 9:00 eastern. you will not want to miss that. we have police looking for a 37-year-old gunman who opened fire on a tram earlier. the city's mayor says three people are dead. several people are hurt. they are looking into this
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attack as terrorism. so far, no comment from the white house. we are working on that. up next, an nbc news exclusive, our reporting on ben carson and his shall we say pretty chilled sched. it's your monday watch or swamp watch, who knew bipartisan watch can be a tweet? apparently why washington is so fired up this morning. next. hy washington is so fired up this next when did you see the sign? when i needed to create a better visitor experience. improve our workflow. attract new customers. that's when fastsigns recommended fleet graphics. yeah! now business is rolling in. get started at
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so here's your morning's magic number. 50. the number of tweets or re-tweets from president trump over the weekend and he is still going strong at it this morning. this is maybe a new record as he takes on topics from general motors to google to fox to "snl," which by the way was a repeat with the late senator john mccain, nearly seven months after his death. at the peak of all to see. kristen welker is at the white house, tam and jake are back with us, too. christi, you can call irony here, the president is going off on this tweet storm even as his wife is holding an event of her be best campaign as we speak. >> reporter: she is speaking right now, halle, creating another contradiction as the first lady continues with her messaging, president trump lashes out as you say 50 tweets
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over the weekend, including re-tweets and still going strong today. it was those tweets about the late senator john mccain that got the most attention, of course, he was tweeting about the dossier, well, senator john mccain of course not here to defend himself. of course, his daughter megan mccain who has smart words from president trump, saying no one will love you like my father. why is the president tweeting? that's the question, in such a large volume? we are waiting for the mueller report to be turned over to the attorney general. now on a separate topic, the white house answering tough questions when it comes to that terrorist attack in new zealand, of course, he did mention president trump in his manifesto. kelly anne conway asked about
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that again today. here's what she has to say. >> this president hates evil and bigotry and people should feel safe, especially feel safe in their places of worship. nobody should blame folks other than the evil hateful shooter. >> reporter: so kellyanne conway out doing the messaging for the white house this morning even as president trump continues to tweet. what's also on his mind, halle? 2020 not surprisingly. former vice president joe biden hasn't announced, he had that flub where he almost walked up to the line, perhaps a preview of the battle to come, we'll have to see. >> kristen welker we'll look for more of your reporting, thank you, my friend. the this weekend barrage of presidential peak ahead of what
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may be another? >> well, i hadn't counted up how many tweets there were, thank you for doing the math. >> i guess you are welcome. i don't know. but the fact that they came in between one hard week, i mean, let's not forget, thesfrom was forced to do his first veto of the firm, although he cast that as a victory, it's clear he's on different terrain. he obviously doesn't have republicans in control in the house and many senate democrats seem willing to buck him. not only on the issue that caused the veto, many caused him on this yemen vote. the mueller report hung over last week, this week. he was alone in the white house for two days straight. the only time he left was to go to church for an hour yesterday
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with his wife. we were there saw him walk in and out. he didn't speak to us. we don't know who all he may have spoken to inside the church, because we weren't in there. that was the only time he left the house. he was alone with his iphone. >> and he was looking at that iphone with tweets like jake someone you cover, senator lindsey graham, who was very close to john mccain. you had chris coons talking about how the president should apologize. lindsey graham said nothing should be changed or diminished of mccain. he didn't call on the from the to aparoleeyes. he didn't go after his friend donald trump. >> what's even more shocking about that to me is that the president does have good things to talk about as always. this is a president who is choosing to talk about things that he knows will bring him criticism. he could talk about an array of things that are positive for his
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administration, although, there is always bad news and he chooses to dive into controversies, to me is curious. maybe there is a huge strategy behind it. it's one of the most curious parts of his administration. >> there is one thing he hasn't dived into, that is a strong condemnation of white nationalism. it put his advisers on defense like his acting chief of staff dick mulvaney. watch. >> why not deliver a speech condemning it. >> you seen the president stand up for religious liberties, the w president is not a white people sift. i'm not sure how many times we have to defend that. >> the president defended judge janine far remarks islam phobic. what's the deal? >> there are tweets and retweets, probably more tweets on judge janine than there were on the terrorist attack in new
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zealand. the president clearly has a hang up here. he has a problem condemning anti-semitism and anti-islamic terrorism. he just throughout his presidency, he has had great difficulty coming out saying the things he is supposed to say at the time he is supposed to say it. he gets in a position, oh, they're trying to make me do it, i'm not going to do it because they're making many edo it. the advisers say he said it. not as forcefully. >> i think he feels like he is taking the blame for something that he didn't do. which is not the truth. she a leader. it's not absurd for people wanting him to talk comments. >> you talked about the spectre report in the nation. there is polling from usa today i wanted to ask you about showing a full 50% of americans, this is stunning, half of
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americans agree with president trump robert mueller's investigation is a witch hunt. is that just a reflection of when you hear something from president trump often enough, people start to buy into it? >> yeah, i don't know all the most oddology behind the polling. but we have seen that number shift over the last six months or so a lot of people say they want the mueller report to become public or the findings of it torque basically know what has happened. people are clearly ready for this to be opened. >> that part of the white house message has been effective. the idea this has been dragging on, dragging on, lert get it over with already. americans agree with that. >> anne, a pleasure to have you on, tamara and jake stick around. the prime minister of new zealand is thinking about overhauling the gun laws. back here at home, three people have been killed. hundreds more forced from their homes overnight after a historic
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we have an update of the breaking news we brought you a few minutes ago. officials in the netherlands confirm three people have been killed and nine people have been hurt. three of them seriously after a shooter opened fire on a tram this morning. >> that shooter is still on the loose. officials say they're looking at this. it's being treated as a possible terror incident. we are watching for developments. we will monitor those and bring them to you as we get them. we aremore monitoring new zealand after somebody killed 50 people at two mosque. they are looking into whether it might have had the support of other people. it's becoming more and more clear that potential coordination that domestic terrorism is a growing problem of its own. did you sigh the washington
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report, it has an alarming gap how little intelligence is shared between the u.s. and its allies when it comes to domestic threats. shane harris, intelligence and national security reporter, shane, it's great for having you on the show. >> thanks for having me. international terrorist groups, this latest show how much is missing. quote, government's generally see extremist reports in the united states, that falls principally to the fbi. you write increasingly, nationalist groups are drawing inspiration from each other, uniting in common cause via social media, according to experts, so why has it been set up of home grown domestic terror? >> for a long time, government
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efforts thought of them as a law enforcement problem. they operated in their country. they stayed within their borders, now what we are seeing with white national effort groups, they are reaching out to each other by possibly learning from each other. >> that looks a lot more like what al qaeda does, what the islamic state does, international or foreign terrorist organizations, technology is fueling this, dissolving of the traditional boundaries that domestic law enforcement agencies operated in when you talk about right wing or domestic extremist groups. >> when you look at the five, i, nations, do you see what happened as sparking a catalyst for change for more cooperation on the front you are talking about? >> that is certainly a question that current and former officials that i talked to in more than one country, by the way, are asking themselves, do
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we need to take this mechanism that for more than 20 years proved valuable and efficient about sharing information about international terrorist organizations and put into that pipeline information about these domestic groups. >> that can prevent privacy restrictions you have to try to address. we traditionally don't allow domestic information to be shared in a national context like that. there are certainly things people talk about observing trends, ways we see them organizing in social media. >> that could spark a conversation. i think you will see people in these different intelligence agencies amongst themselves having that talk. >> shane harris, thank you very much for talking about your report out in the washington post, we appreciate it. we have other developing news, this is regarding that search warrant executed on
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michael cohen's home home office, hotel and safety box. what do we know? when is this going down? >> reporter: halle, several months ago, several organization requested of the judge who has been overseeing all of michael cohen's case brought by federal prosecutors in new york, he pleaded guilty and the a his plea involving the special counsel's office, that was a guilty plea involving to lying to congress. what the media organizations requested is for a cope of the search warrant and the reason why the fbi believe that they have done probable cause to enter cohen's hotel room, his office, his safety deposit box in his home to be able to gather electronic documents, somewhere, okay, now since this is concluded and michael cohen is
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sentenced, it's typical we see some materials unsealed. the justice department from the southern district of new york requested that the search warrant was to be filed, that it could be filed with redaxs. they want to redact personal information, including his safety deposit box number as well as phone numbers and e-mails, but also they said there were ongoing investigations that they needed to put in some detaxes. so now they've provided that to the judge, the judge says he has been satisfied with redaxs from prosecutors in new york. he's ordered the redacted materials be posted on the public docket. we known dough what time they will be filed. we will go through to see how the investigations into michael cohen started, how it came about in some of the specific things the prosecutors here were looking for. it's not clear yet how long if we will learn a lot. >> that was my question.
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what are we learning new? >> sure, i think one thing we might learn about is how this is an investigation started, in other words, did somebody come forward or the "wall street journal" reporter involving stormy daniels and other women? was it public reporting that led to that or information that was developed through other investigations, it will be unredacted. stay tuned, it will be sometime tomorrow. >> stick around for one second if you can. i want to bring in tamara and
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jake into the conversation. this dovetails as it relates to michael cohen and the potential for the mueller report, our reporting indicates could be days, weeks, at some point soon coming out, who knows? there was that poll earlier in the show, i think it's important, out from usa today showing half of americans do not believe in the integrity of robert mueller's investigation and that is creating tension from the leaders? >> they said time and time again, this investigation has gone on for way too long. you asked what was the unveiling of these documents do. song is out this week, there is a dearth of robert mueller investigation news on capitol hill, so here comes these documents to fill the void. we will have information, whether big or small, that will take us inside even if it's the morse els of news, it will fill
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the void. >> what you had for the mueller investigation is silence and court filings which have a lot of interesting information in them. then you have the president and his investigation saying it should have ended sooner. it's a lopsided fight for public opinions. >> this relates to the belief and integrity coming up on two years now of being the process. >> it's an interesting question. a lot has a disconnect reported by reporters myself and the major news organization and my colleagues here at nbc news as far as what mueller is investigating and sought indictments for. so we have a little disconnect. i heard about that thing, i'm
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not hearing about it from robert mueller? what is going on? i think that plays into a little of what you are talking about from the standpoint of public opinion. his press office has declined most comment, preferring to speak to their court filings. so i think when you see this disconnect, what we've actually seen and with only one side speaking in this case, that's the president and his attorneys, they're certainly welcome to speak about anything that they may be under investigation for. when you have one side talking that's the side people are listening to and talking to. >> thank you for that developing feuds, i appreciate it. imagine taking on one of the most thankless jobs in all of politics. one republican might do it. challenging the president in a
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primary. what maryland's governor is saying about when he might make a decision and those sky high approval ratings for donald trump inside the gop. >
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. this president got elected because he's bold and he's different and he communicates directly to folks and people absolutely wanted a non-politician. in addition to the ones he won, he can be competitive in nevada, in new hampshire, in colorado,
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in -- he should definitely be in new mexico. we shouldn't cede any state off the bat, which democrat, in fact, going to bust through trump's 306 electoral votes. where is the proof of that? >> that, of course, is kellyanne conway pushing back on the fact that president trump might be vulnerable in 2020. the republican race could maybe, maybe get interesting. that's because maryland's governor larry hogan might potentially take on the president. in an exclusive interview, who began to says he comes from quote the ronald reagan school of politics holding off on making a decision to run until the fall. he is trying to show how different he is from president trump. he is presenting himself as a life long conservative adapted to the left wing policies of his state without embracing them. washington post erin cox and abc reporter case d.c. is with us as
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well. erin, let me talk to you about what governor hogan had to say about approval ratings of president trump, if you take on the big guy in 2020 primary, you have to know his approval ratings are pushing 90% within the party. >> what larry hogan is to craft the numbers, if you look at them right now there is no way you'd beat him in a primary. what he's doing is waiting to see whether or not he can be an ideological counterweight if the president gets weakened either by the mueller report or anything else, if rank and file republican voters look at his policy and the ram identifications they have around the world. hogan is wondering if there will be enough appetite for somebody else, if there is, he is the guy they'd like to look to. >> is he going to cast himself as a republican alternative in the race. conley makes the point is people didn't tradition, establishment. >> the primary did reject that i
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think all the evidence that we have seen throughout the last couple of years has showed that the republican party has molded itself around the president. not the other way around. now, you know, that itself not to say that there aren't disaffected republicans out there. it seems as though the energy, you know, i struggle to see how that could happen. now, a catastrophic event for the president, the mueller reports, sure, and you know if are you larry hogan and you are thinking of doing something for the sake of doing it, standing on principle, also being ready in the case that happened, perhaps there is an opening you and i can't foresee sitting here. judging on behavior, i struggle to see it now. >> larry hogan is looking at that. he is going to make a decision based partly on this mueller stuff, the whole country is waiting for that report to come out, hogan said. he added, don't get the impression i'm sitting here like this as a result cheer, it's kind of hard not no get that
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impression. why doesn't hogan come out and get in front of it now? >> he doesn't want to give up his day job or put his family through this, if there is no hope he can win. looking at the polling numbers, he thinks there is no hope he can win. at the same time if he rattled off his polling numbers, electoral wince and compared them with how trump fairs with the republicans in maryland. he said it's the only place both of them have been on the ballot. he said when voters know both of us and compare both of us, i'm up by 20, 40 points, depending on the demographic within the republican party. so he is positioning himself. he is waiting in the wings in case there is something or an opening that does occur. and you know, he likens this to his 2014 run for governor in maryland. he's the governor of a state where democrats outnumber republicans by 2-1. when he decided to get into the race, there was no public polk, no pundits, no one that worked in maryland politics who thought
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it was feasible at all. he said he had a gut feeling people were going to like his message and they were going to vote for him and he's looking for the same sort of gut feeling now. so he may choose to get into this race at a time when no pundits, no polls, nobody makes it look like it's possible. but if he has developed that gut feeling, he might get in front of it now. today -- >> sorry report. today he doesn't have that feeling. >> casey, if you look at the pro/conlist if you will, on the one hand the president had this apparatus. they have been fundraising since day one. on the other hand, he has axios puts it a map from hell in 2020. his job approval was 44%. in michigan, the president faces serious head winds because fewer than half the vote, think he is doing a good job. politico is worried about the meltdown, the list go os and on and on. >> the math looks tougher
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sitting here right now. >> 595 days. >> 595 days, thank you. how quickly all of that can change in politics. we saw it in 2016 on the road. yeah, things are looking a lot tougher. i think if you are thinking about this through the lens of a possible republican primary or how the republican party thinks about this, it was a better question of if they were better with him or without him. right now the republicans are making the judgment they can't win without him, the base is still with him. and the only thing i again think is going to change whether he's nominee or not is that fundamental calculus changes. again, right now, i don't see that, despite that obvious weekness across the mid-west. >> casey hunt, thank you, erin cox, thank you for coming on the show, appreciate it. wouldn't you love to leave work early on fridays so you can head off to your house in florida? this guy does. that's not all we found about our exclusive report about the
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first lady's be best at the white house. carson is at the center of a new report, where we were on swamp watch this morning. here's what we know. over a seven month period in 2017, carson held senior staff meetings, according to his schedule, one time we are week. they show carson worked basically an eight or nine hour friday about half of the fridays on the schedules. what was he doing all the other fridays? some fridays, he left work before 2:00 p.m. to head off to his mansion in south florida. others, he was finished with appointments and meetings by 3:00. some, we don't know because his schedule shows no appointments at all. seems sweet, right? the agency is defending the work schedule, telling nbc news, almost every day, the secretary arrives by 7:30 a.m. in 2017, he traveled to more than 27 communities and met with more than 40 elected officials and their communities to discuss hud business. to talk about that, let me bring
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in our panel. tamara and jake. listen, i'm down with a flexible work schedule. i'm a big believer in work smart, work efficiently. it doesn't mean you have to put in a ton of hours. what do you make of that? >> it is not necessarily surprising, given that this is an agency that we have heard from almost not at all. primarily, the news that has come out of hud in the first two years of the trump presidency has been about furniture being purchased for an office, ben carson's office. there haven't been a lot of major policy announcements. he has done some tours. he's gone around to various -- >> as the agency noted. he is is heading to communities, talking to people. >> it's not been an agency that's been on the leading edge, trying to do stuff, that you can tell. >> officials are talking about this, jake, because nbc news previously reported a dozen current and former hud officials
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describe a lack of you aurgency there, to tam's point. talked about how his signature initiative, the vision centers, providing one-stop shops for services around the country hasn't opened any locations yet. >> ben carson has had a career of really celebrated career as a neurosurgeon. that might not translate well to being in charge of housing and urban development. those are two very different skill sets. like you wouldn't call your gardener for a root canal. you're a great gardener but not a dentist. i don't know what the theory of the case was for him getting the job. >> the point is, he's in the job now. >> true. it is not something he spent his entire life building toward. that could explain perhaps the lack of urgency in doing things that would have to do with housing and urban development. >> the other criticism carson has come under -- listen, i get the point there are those who will look at this reporting and say, lay off the guy, right? i can see, if i were to predict it myself, people going,
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secretary carson is the victim of another attack by the media. i think people care because it shows the work you're doing for taxpayers, who are paying your salary. hud has been proposing the envision centers, which haven't opened. cuts across the board. triple rents for people in public housing. cutting housing repairs. >> it comes from the top, right? if housing and urban development was a priority for the president, then he would be pushing for the agency to be more proactive. he wouldn't be pushing for 18% cuts. the president has other priorities. >> it is true. >> it is difficult to see. he also put his event planner in charge of hud in new york city. this is someone from his organization, his company, in charge of that new york city. it calls into question how much value he puts in this organization. >> the other piece of this more broadly is the transparency issue, right? to even get these schedules, and you know this from reporting on the hillside and the other end
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of pennsylvania avenue, this watchdog group had to sue hud, the schedules were then handled over gumbjumbled, out of order, of sequence. when scott pruitt one was at th epa, it was something that was fought to keep his schedules out of the public. what are you keeping under wraps, gang? >> to be fair, i'd say foy a an getting documents under any administration is a challenge. >> that's fair. >> on capitol hill, by the way, congress exempted itself from foya for many years. congress doesn't have to give over any documents. the lack of transparency goes beyond this administration and also to capitol hill. >> there are those who will say this administration is objectively less transparent in many ways than past administrations, as well. >> right. the visitor logs are not being made available. >> right. >> this administration would argue past administrations made a show of transparency but didn't always give all the
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details everyone would have wanted. in this case, there is a lack of transparency with visitor logs, knowing who has come and gone from the white house. we simply don't know. >> who doesn't love a little swamp watch on a monday, gang? >> love it. that rolls into my other favorite segment, sources say. you're working on a bunch of stories. jake, what are sources telling you? >> i think within the next couple weeks, house republicans will announce they've raised more money than they expected to in this first quarter after losing the majority, which does show some of the, they would say, shows some of the excitement in taking back the majority in 2020, something i'm personally doubtful about. in a presidential year, it is difficult to break the democratic majority. something to watch out for the next couple weeks. >> interesting. when will we see the numbers officially? >> end of the first quarter, so not another couple weeks. you'll see leaks and projections over the next couple days. perhaps a playbook. >> oh, well, nice. >> funny how that works. >> nice plug, my friend. tam, what you got? >> deadline coming up today. the house judiciary committee
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sent out those 81 requests for documents and other items. not expecting them to get a lot of responses in particular when it comes to the white house. from conversations i've had with various people, i am expecting a strong clap back, you could say, from the white house, and not a, hey, here's everything you ever wanted. >> when will we know, close of business, when those get turned over or don't get turned over? >> close of business is the deadline. these deadlines tend to slip. >> come and go quite frequently. >> yes. >> for sure. tamara and jake, pleasure to have you on. see you back here tomorrow. for now, let's turn it over for more with my colleague chris jansing in new york on this monday. hey, chris. >> thank you so much, hallie. good morning from msnbc headquarters in new york. i am chris jansing in for craig melvin. presidential priorities. trump lashing out, rattling off more than 50 tweets and railing against familiar targets on the heels of a major terror attack in the world. what prompted this latest tweet
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storm? beto's big bucks. the texas democrat raking in the dough as a presidential candidate, with a record first day fundraising total. the backlash has already started after what "politico" describes as a rocky rollout for his campaign, including vague answers when asked about policy. and where's rudy? one of the president's biggest supporters is keeping an unusually low profile. why rudy giuliani's voice may be absent from the conversation, as robert mueller gets closer to releasing his final report. let's begin with those presidential priorities. an extraordinary weekend trump twitter tirade continuing into this morning. now at 54 tweets and counting just since saturday morning. president trump with a written record of what's on his mind right now and what apparently isn't. he tweeted 50 times this weekend alone, 30 original tweets, 20 re-tweets, bashing mueller and the russia


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