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care. the trump administration asking a court to throw out the whole thing with 11.5 million americans signed up and rates going down, why now? we're talking about it with republican senator mike brawn to joins us later in the show. plus two exclusive reports including one about the cab gnat member considering quitting and the v.p. talking him off the ledge. and michael avenatti a free man but for how long? the lawyer's new comments after getting charged with extortion and why president trump's team may be having their best week ever. our team is covering it all. the congress is back. any minute we're going to hear from house republicans and then in 15 minutes how democrats are up facing questions about the podium including our top throw. will the department of justice meet democrat's deadline to give them the full mueller? that's one week from today, april second. when will the fbi brief top
congressional leaders on the counterintelligence piece of the investigation. we have more reporting on that. and when will lawmakers get their chance to grill the attorney general? kasie hunt is live on the hill for us looking for answers. i understand we just heard from speaker pelosi this morning on some of this. bring us up to speed. >> well, hallie, we are waiting to find out from the committees on exactly when that testimony is going to come from bill barr, and i think it's important to point out that there are some democrats who are calling for bob mueller to testify, but it's relatively limited. the focus has really been on making sure that barr actually comes up here, and even lindsey graham, the republican chairman of the senate judiciary committee said that he actually wants to hear from barr in public as well. so i think we should look for that also. and as you point out, we had
this letter last night coming from house democrats up to the department of justice saying hey, we want this by april second. of course, that's next tuesday. we're waiting on word for that as well. because democrats really are focussed in on why did bill barr decide that they were going to make an announcement on the obstruction of justy question. why did he and rod rosenstein say they were going to decline the prosecute? >> nbc's kasie hunt on the hill. let me play some of what speaker pelosi had to say as well. >> right now the message should be clearly let us see this report. >> is impeachment off the table at this point? >> impeachment isn't on the table until it's on the table. >> all right. as folks on the hill try to get their hands on mueller's findin findings, the presidents and his supporters want a new investigation to turn the tables
in a post mueller washington. so who exactly are they talking about? we are at the white house with more on that. bring us up to speed. what's the white house up to today? >> reporter: they see a target rich opportunity when they look at all the people out there that claimed there was collusion and that this report would verify that. they haven't seemed to settle on a strategy on whether or not they want to go on individual members or have a more generic criticism. this morning the president tweeting out generic criticism. last night the president's son zeroing in on adam schiff, the california democrat. >> you got the leader of the tinfoil hat brigade out there every day talking act the evidence of collusion that he's seen. he's flagrantly lying to the american people. >> hallie, i have to tell you yesterday seems different than today. yesterday it seemed like you had a lot of white house officials doing the cable rounds talking on the "today show," for example. really taking aim at just about
everyone. this morning it's been more quiet. it's mostly been the president talking with that one single tweet. we know the president is going to be mentioning this at the campaign rally thursday. it's clear they're going to use this to both galvanize their base and try to work the reps. the reps qvc media. they feel they've been treated underhandedly and they're going to try to make that point as often as they can. >> hans at the white house north lawn. see you over there in a little bit. thanks. let me bring in karen bass of california. a member of the judiciary committee. thank you very much for being on the show. >> thank you for having me on. >> let me start with this. right now what is the latest communication between your committee and the justice department. have they responded to the chairman's letter? >> not to my understanding, they haven't responded yet, but we're waiting for them to respond, and we expect for them to give us the entire report and the underlying evidence. that's really the only appropriate thing to do right
now. >> what happens if they don't do that by your april second deadline? >> well, i imagine that the leadership will decide to issue subpoenas. now, we haven't crossed that bridge yet, because we are hoping that they will act in good faith, but that certainly is a vehicle that is -- that we could use. moving to subpoenas. >> yeah. can you give me a sense. i know there was a caucus meeting with democrats today. i know you were only able to meet with us a little bit, but can you give me a sense of what went down there, of the feeling inside the democratic party particularly as you have reports that there's a letter still talking impeachment? >> i haven't seen the letter. but i will tell you very easily that overwhelmingly the sentiment is we need to see all the information. there needs to be transparency, and remember, the mueller investigation was looking at a very narrow issue. you know that he gave several of the cases to other offices of doj. there's other issues for us to
provide oversight and investigation of. there's the whole issue of corruption, abuse of power, obstruction of justice. there's many, many, many more places to go. this is just the first milestone. >> fair to say, though, congresswoman, based on the answer that you will not be signing on to the letter? >> i have to see what her letter is. i mean, i'm a person that believes that again along with the speaker, if there's overwhelming evidence, then sure, we should go there. i also don't want to see us go there knowing it would not be successful in the senate at all. >> former president obama had a bit of a party last night for nancy pelosi. he spoke with freshman democrats. one person summarized his remarks as saying you guys, democrats, should not be afraid of big, bold ideas but also need to think about how the big, bold ideas will work and critically how you will pay for them. do you agree with that message and do you think it's resonating
with son-in-law of tme of the m progressive freshman members of your caucus? >> what i hoped happen is the president really inspired them. i love the idea of saying you need to talk about and think about bold ideas, but i'm also practical. i want to know how the bold ideas are going to be implemented. i'm looking forward to talking to my freshman colleagues and finding more out about what happened last night. >> talking about former president obama, before i let you go, i need your reaction to the news this morning. we neknow the trump administratn is fighting to take down all of the affordable care act. i'd like your reaction. >> i think it's completely absurd. and the idea that you want to take preexisting condition coverage from people, the caps, all of those things that i know save lives. i used to work in the medical field. i worked in the emergency room. i saw people come in at the end of their life because they didn't have the ability to
provide coverage. preexisting conditions applies to everyone, not just people without insurance, and after you hit a certain age, everyone has a preexisting condition. so why in the world the trump administration would want to cancel out the affordable care act is beyond me. >> it's something we're talking more about later in the show. aaron ba karen bass, thank you for being on. >> let me bring in jeff mason, ken delanian who has new exclusive reporting about what really had the trump legal team nervous before the release of the mueller report. first, did anything she said surprise you? >> i've been getting notes from people in the democratic caucus meeting. they say they are very, very focussed on health care. you mentioned it at the end. they are ready to get back to basics on messaging. the things that won them 2018 -- >> we're back to october of
2018. >> they say what won them the election is what's going to win the election in 2020. that's where they want to go. >> there's so much conversation, what i hear from folks in the field and what we see in polls is people don't want to talk about russia and mueller. they want to talk about issues like health care, but the president is focusing on russia. right? and there's new reporting from the new york times that talks about how essentially in the past when you look at historical president after iran contra, it was dropped. donald trump and his allies sought to put his adversaries on the defensive and say it represents complete vindication. are there concerns about the strategy? >> i think there's a debate within the inner circle, including his outside advisers who he talked to a lot about let it go. take the high road. say it wasn't a witch hunt or at least don't emphasize that anymore, and go on and govern.
show them you can govern. show what you're doing on the economy is terrific. show what you're doing is working. and then there's the side, and i spoke to one former campaign adviser on sunday after the mueller report came out. he said look, we want to move on, but there are these people who absolutely need to be punished. and then you heard the president yesterday -- >> there's the vengeance. >> yes. and that came out in the oval yesterday too. >> senator lindsey graham, our hill team caught up with him running around in the hallways. i haven't seen what he had to say. we're going to listen to it together and then let's talk about it. >> i want the report disclosed as much as possible. i want him to come to the committee, which he will. there's three areas he has to look at immateri. i want to look at grand jury evidence to make sure it's taken out because it will violate the law. >> this sounds like what a lot of republicans are saying. they want as much of the report released as possible. they're defining what that
means. i wouldn't be surprised if we see them redefine what that means many times before we actually see it. democrats have a different approach here. they say they want to see everything, everything. that is not limitations. not a lot of redactions exempt for sources and methods. they say the only way for people to stop having questions about how mueller reached the conclusions is to see how he got there. >> ken, you have new reporting too on the president's legal team. we know that the day that these conclusions came out written by bill barr and the summary, there are those photos, the raskins and rudy giuliani in the white house seeming to celebrate with the president. >> i spoke to a number of sources who gave me insight into how the trump legal team saw the case. i was surprised to hear for as long as a year a trump lawyers did not believe there was a russian conspiracy case, and they thought that because they weren't getting the kind of questions from the mueller team that let them to believe that
mueller was focussed on the russia. they were most worried about obstruction of justice. this is not just rudy giuliani. this is marty and jane raskin, experienced criminal defense lawyers. not political people. they were hired a year ago. they came from the case and were immediately worried about the obstruction of justice case. they also thought that mueller and his team were applying a novel theory, essentially obstruction of justice by tweet, and also incorporating the firing of james comey which they saw as a lawful act. they launched a full court press. they were filing briefs with the justice department, trying to convince the office of legal counsel and others that this was not a viable prosecution. and at the end of the day, mueller's team, mueller did not make a decision. he said there was evidence on both sides. he didn't make a call on obstructi
obstruction. barr and rosen stastein did. they saw that as a victory. >> john roberts as dealt a blow to fun rights advocates denying an emergency request by gun owners to press the pause button on the trump administration's ban on bump stocks. i took effect at midnight last night. this is just coming into us from our team at the supreme court including pete williams who is there. ken, you also covered the justice department in your role here. can you help us put this in perspective? what does this mean? >> yeah. i cover the 2017 las vegas shooting where a bump stock or a number of bump stocks were used by that shotter to inflict more damage on the people. this is a device that allows a semi automatic weapon to fire like a machine gun. it was outrageous. everyone, even the trump administration, even many gun rights owners agreed that this device should be banned.
the trump administration put in an administrative ban. some people tried to get it stopped through the courts. they filed an emergency appeal through the salespeopupreme cou onroberts decided that will not stand. bump stocks are now illegal in the united states. >> thank you for your reporting. i'm going to ask kelsey and jeff to stick around. still ahead another nbc news exclusive. the cabinet member who wanted to call it quits and the guy who persuaded him to stick around but for how long? next up, lawless conduct and greed. what avenatti says now. [zara larsson - "wow"] ♪ ♪ make you're jaw drop drop say oh my drop drop drop ♪
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i am highly confident that when all of the evidence is laid bare in connection with these cases, when it is all known, when due process occurs, that i will be fully exonerated and justice will be done. >> remember when michael avenatti was maybe going to be the next president? yeah. not so much given the extortion charges he now faces. you heard him there. $25 million out of nike. at this point the lawyer who once represented stormy daniels and her legal battles against the president is free. he is out this morning on $300,000 bond. the u.s. attorney in new york says at its core this was an old
fashioned shakedown. aven a twitter trolling writing what an amazing last 48 hours. i can't stop watching. i'm joined now by tom winter and by paul butler. tom, let me get to you. you've been covering this since it broke. boy, there were a lot of colorful quotes in the indictment. prosecutors released one excerpt of a phone call they say avenatti made to nike last week. i'm not fing around revealed to it's worth more in exposure to blow the lid on this thing. a few million dollars doesn't move the needle with this thing. i'm not f g around anymore. you were in court. tell us what it was like. >> you want to talk about the ultimate fall from grace. michael avenatti used to engage
with reporters and used to be the man about the courtroom on one side of the bench and then on the other side last night sitting by i'm sorry for over 20 minutes at the defense table last night, hallie, by himself. occasionally kind of scratching his head wondering what was going to be next. u.s. marshals sitting behind him. it was a 180 for him. the quotes you read from, those were all in recorded telephone calls, and what we haven't even seen yet, hallie j is that yesterday was kind of the ultimate meeting where avenatti said pay me or i'm going public. we haven't heard what happened in that meeting because they didn't have time to include that in the charging documents. according to press release, there was audio and video recording of that meeting where he tweeted he was going to expose this whole thing. we haven't heard the last of the extortion charges. and then in addition to that, michael avenatti was already
going to be arrested. there was an heir in the works if not for this extortion scheme because the irs looked into him in los angeles and they found a massive web of fraud, bank fraud and tax fraud tied to schemes -- it's amazing. it was the exact same thing that michael cohen pleaded guilty to or similar, of lying on your tax returns so that you could get loans. and it's just an amazing fall from grace for him. >> you have one former federal prosecutor telling the associated press this morning that the doj has historically been cautious when charging attorneys. did he cross the line? should he be tweeting about this this morning? >> most lawyers would advise their client to let's see what the government's evidence is. hallie, i taught michael avenatti criminal law, and he graduated from law school first in his class and went an to an
amazing career. yes, this is an incredible fall from grace. he's looking at up to 50 years if he's convicted in the new york case, ands in l.a. case i think he's even got more to worry about. there he's charged with embezzlement. those charges are quite easy to prove based on what the government says its evidence is. the government claims that he stole money, a client's settlement money, over $1 million, and that he made up tax records, falsified tax documents to get a loan from a bank. >> what do you make of the unindicted co-conspirator according to two sources to nbc news. his attorney says he has not been charged with any criminal conduct. >> he hasn't been charged yet. it's still a possibility. the government apparently in the new york case doesn't have the quality of evidence against him that they have against mr. avenatti. they have tapes where they say mr. avenatti is making threats
against nike. if mr. avenatti is the ring leader, there will be pressure on others to cooperate, to turn state's evidence, and to testify against mr. avenatti. >> and he's somebody people know well from his defense of a lot of celebrities, a lot of people we've all seen on tv over the last months and years. >> entrapment is going to be a defense that they both raise, but because they're both high profile celebrity lawyers, the response will be well, you should have known better. >> tom, quickly, we're almost out of time. i want to ask about the nike piece of this. as avenatti tweeted this morning, on trar to nike's claims, they have not been cooperating with investigators for over a year unless you count withholding documents as cooperating. can you talk through what nike has been saying and whether you think they're in any potential trouble? >> i think they are in potential legal trouble. i'm not sure michael avenatti is being inaccurate there. the southern district has moved forward with cases against
nike's rival, adidas in several assistant basketball coaches. they were successful prosecutions. it seems to reason that now alleged wrong doing has been brought forth regarding nike that federal prosecutors are going to look into that. the u.s. attorney said that yes, the investigation is continuing. i think nike may have opened a can of worms. this could be a two for one prosecution. we'll have to watch it. >> i know you'll stay on top of that. thank you. paul butler, appreciate you being with us onset. next up, an nbc news kpluziexcl revealing the trump cabinet member who almost quit but was talked out of it by v.p. pence. sun care is self care.
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of many times mike pence stepped in and smoothed things over. nbc news this morning can report the vice president has been playing middleman here at times encouraging president trump to stick with dan coats who he apparently privately calls mr. rogers and others talking coats out of quitting because of his frustrations with the president. joining me here onset, kara lee, kelsey and ken are back with us. man, what had coats on the verge of quitting and what have been some of the flash points in this relationship between these two men. a critical role. >> yes. exactly. the most recent one was in december where the president tweeted out he was pulling audiotape troop -- all troops out of syria. mattis quit. it was all very controversial. as you recall, and coats privately was really troubled by this, and he approached pence
and they had a conversation. they've known each other for some time. they're both politicians from indiana. coats recommended him for the job. and he really as one person told us, struggled with what to do at that time and wanted to leave as well. but pence talked to him. one of the reasons he gave for him not to leave is following mattis, it would look like too much turmoil in the administration and he should hold tight, hold the line and stay and coats agreed to stay until at least the summer. that's where we are with that. and then there's been other points of tension since then. >> we have a list of some of them. the time the president demanded that coats criticized the intelligence committee. coats was like no, i'm good. >> not in the job description. that started early on. if you recall, coats came in. he was sworn in a little a week after trump tweeted that president obama was wiretapping him during the 2016 campaign
which the obama administration denied. others denied. during the daily briefing trump would bring this up and say you need to find evidence of this. this happened. and coats would go back and say that didn't happen, and so they'd go round and round about that. he accused him of being behind leaks coming out. he wanted him to go out, like you said, and say publicly that the intelligence community was against him and biassed which coats obviously was not going to do. and then that clip you played with andrea over the summer, that was when it really spilled out into public. people describe it as manageable when it was behind the scenes and coats would have readable expressions that showed he was thinking the president was being irrational. and they had this private kind of tension, and then that spilled it into the public. >> dan coats says i'm focussed on doing my job. it's frustrated to be repeatedly asked to respond to these
questions. i don't see him saying this is wrong and mike pence never convinced me not to quit. >> yeah. and the people around him have said he didn't want to leave. he wasn't considering leaving, but our reporting shows that not just in december but also over last summer he wondered aloud to pence, should i continue doing this. he had so upset the president at this point in fa. it was a difficult time period for him. >> the vice president convinced coats to stay until the summer. we're in march. as you pointed out and just behind the scenes of the commercial break we were talking about this. dan coats as a good relationship with people on the hill. >> and he he's someone a lot of senators in particular trust on issues that are really sensitive in areas where there isn't a lot of trust with the white house about intelligence. and we should acknowledge there's been so much turnover in
the white house, and the hill is going on a serious amount of fatigue of having to put new people into the positions. >> thank you for coming onset and talking through that. we also want to talk to you about something that is incredibly important. it's incredibly difficult to talk about but we have to talk about it. the spotlight today on survivor's guilt. after three people linked to two of the deadliest school shootings in history have died by suicide recently. jeremy richmond was found dead on monday days after two former parkland shooter survivors died in apparent decides. kate snow talk with survivors about surviving an attack while others had not. >> how are you guys doing? >> mostly just shock. slight anger just at how we could help better support people going through these types of situations and going through these internal battles. >> we cannot say this enough.
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of $1 billion be used for building this fence? it could also be used for constructing roads, enhancing some lighting. but this is the first group of what we expect this 284 funding to be used for this border wall mission. >> kourtney live for us at the pentagon. thank you. we also have big news this morning we've been talking about that should not be flying under your radar. the trasump administration is pushing for the entire affordable care act to be thrown out. >> the republicans said during the campaign they weren't there to undermine the preexisting condition benefit, and here they are right now saying they're going to strip the whole affordable care act. >> here's the teal. the justice department is asking the courts to strike down not just parts of the law like the
individual mandate, for example. but the whole thing according to the post. if the administration gets its way, millions of people might lose their health care coverage and this would up end huge parts of our health care system. republicans have been promising to repeal and replace the law for years. there's no real replacement. new 2019 enrollment numbers showed 11.4 million americans signed up for coverage this year. joining me now mike brawn. senator, thank you for coming back on the show. >> good to be on. >> a lot to get to with you this morning. let me start with this affordable care act news. do you support the trump administration's position here? >> so i was clear during the campaign. it was a big issue. the number one issue in indiana. you've got to cover preexisting conditions and no cap on coverage. i thought it was dangerous territory when we were trying to
relitigate that. i believe that's a ship that's sailed. we ought to be focusing on how we're going to lower costs while maintaining those two pillars. because when i put my own plan into place for my employees ten years ago, covered preexisting conditions and no cap on coverage. i think other republicans need to start focusing on how we lower costs, get over the fact that you got to do that stuff. >> so senator, if i'm hearing you correctly, and i want to be clear here. it sounds like you're not saying you're not totally behind the movement by the trump administration. is that correct? >> well, i think it's mostly a question of repeal and replace. i would have never talked about repealing until i had a strong replacement for it. and all i can tell you is that both sides of the aisle need to be interested on lowering the costs and it's got to be based upon covering preexisting conditions and no cap on coverage. no one should go broke because they get critically ill or have
a bad accident. we as skeconservatives need to e on the health care system and challenge them to fix the system. >> your colleague senator pat toomey was talking about something similar this morning. i want to play for you what he had to say. listen to this. >> it's absolutely the case that health care was a big issue in the last election, and i do believe it didn't work well for republicans. i don't think that's because we've opposed obama care. i think it's because many republicans didn't have a good answer to how you're going to deal with the real problem of people with preexisting health problems? . is he right? >> shehe's 100% right. the big issue has been that i think we've been an apologist for the health care industry over time. and we've got to help the industry fix itself. and he was right on. i had not heard that until now. i preach it all on the campaign trail.
>> i want to ask you, given your position here, given what you're sharing with us, will you personally put pressure on the white house, on president trump, to change their thinking on this, to perhaps reverse course? is that something you would do? >>vil i'll have to look at what going to come along with the idea of repeal. if it's with a plan that does some of the things that we are interested in, it would have to be part and parcel of it. if it's just for a flat repeal with no solutions including saying that you're going to cover preexisting conditions and no cap on coverage, there will be space between me and the administration. >> politico says the white house has been quietly having early stage staff level conversations with speaker pelosi's staff about drug pricing legislation. this is an issue important to you. conversations you're having with democrats or the white house or that are being had on capitol
hill on this. >> i'm the one that authored the bill to get rid of the pbm rebaits, pass it on directly to pharmacies and individuals. i'm glad that's a glimmer of hope for some bishopartisanship? >> so it's happening, the talks? >> i hope so. if they are, i'm going to be for it. we need to start moving in that direction to fix the system, lowering costs, and both sides talking about it. >> let me ask you about something else that is going down and has been going down. the idea of the mueller report. mitch mcconnell has blocked the resolution that was sent over from the house calling to make mueller's full report public. do you think the senate should vote on this? >> i'm going to -- i don't know. i think that for me i've been out there. i'd like to see as much transparency on it as possible. even the president said publish the whole report. whether it was doing that because he knew it may not
happen because there are guidelines that ag barr has got to adhere to when it comes to classified information and ongoing investigations. i've always been a believer whether it's in that kind of issue or health care, full transparency so you can see what's going on. >> senator mike brawn, i appreciate you coming back on the show. we'd love to have you on again soon. >> thank you. >> the attorney general is facing more pressure now as we're talking about to get the entire mueller report into the public view. as you heard us talking about with the senator, and bill barr's path seems to be coming back to haunt him, at least with democrats who see sunday's summary as not doing it. how far will they go to get it? they really appreciate the military family and it really shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. it was funny because when we would call another insurance company, hey would say "oh we can't beat usaa" we're the webber family. we're the tenney's
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all right. on capitol hill we're getting new reaction just in the last couple of minutes while we were in the commercial break about the mueller report. kevin mccarthy is calling for adam schiff to be out as head of the committee. adam schiff is just responding. we're going to listen to both of them. >> you cannot have a chair of a committee that misled the american public, their confidence, in a moment that we now have an answer. >> i'm used from attacks from the president and his allies.
this is nothing new. >> with the release of the mueller report, the spotlight, of course, is now focused on attorney general bill barr, or as "the new york times" writes, barr's declaration on president trump puts him back on the cruseblcrus crucible. explain a little bit of what ththe restrictions are? >> there are restrictions on what can be released. they're important ones. for instance, we don't want to release classified information that could damage the government's ongoing ability to collect intelligent. similarly, there are legal restrictions, the most prominent one is that grand jury material is secret and can't be publicly disclosed without a court order.
there are ways to work around these problems, excluding material that needs to be excluding. even grand jury, which is cloaked in secrecy, can be used in open court doing a trial. all of this is part of the process. >> democrats have set a deadline for bill barr to respond a week from today, by april 2nd, with the full report. karen bass was on the show earlier and said if he doesn't meet that deadline, subpoenas are probably next. is that where you see this headed? >> next tuesday is a heavy lift, and i'm sure that congress knew when it tried tod ask for that. these situations typically are negotiated. there will be an agreed upon resolution about what can go forward. some may come over time. hopefully this will be a
collaborative process that works to get people the answers for they're hungry for. >> eric holder was on overnight. i want to play for you a little bit of what he had to say. >> he's taking onto himself a role that has not typically been used by people in the position that attorney general barr has had. he should have taken that information and packaged it in the appropriate form and sent it to the house for consideration. >> so he's talking about a.g. barr making that determination on obstruction. he said he never received anything from a prosecutor without a charging recommendation. your thoughts? >> you know, in every case, the people who know the evidence best and know how it stacks up with the legal requirements, those are the prosecutors on the ground who are working this ca. it's just unfathomable to me that an attorney general would want to make a decision without knowing what the prosecutors who worked it thought.
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what our sources are saying. i love when you come on because every time we do, your sources are always talking about trade. >> i'm not talking about trade. >> it's sexy stuff, let us have it. >> it's not sexy. >> it's important. >> this week, the two top negotiators on the trade talks with china are going back to beijing after quite a lull in the talks. >> secretary of state mnuchin and robert lighthizer. >> bingo. there are still a lot of outstanding issues, the structural issues that include how beijing treats u.s. companies that do business in china. bu what's an interesting side note to that, i spoke to a source this week who says there are concerns within the administration, from sort of the hawks on this issue, that president trump will accept a deal that doesn't go as far as some of them really want. addressing some of those structural issues. he'll accept a deal that has a
bunch of purchases, soybeans or something else that would be something he could declare a win going into the 2020 election but miss the opportunity, which he's said he's not going to do to have an impact on the relationship and the chinese company. >> what do you see as the timeline for movement here on this trade issue? this pops up when the vice premier is in town our whatever? >> there's been speculation there would be a meeting in mar-a-lago sometime in april. i think it depends a lot on how this round goes and whether or not they schedule another round after that. this could go on for a while. the president said he's in no hurry. he does need to wrap it up at some point. >> kelsey let's shift over to you, your hill scoop machine, what you got? what you hearing? >> one of the things that's fliedi
flying under the radar is there is a vote on a disaster aid bill. you have to remember, that congress still hasn't passed a new package of money for the floods we saw in the midwest and additional money for florida and texas and puerto rico. but puerto rico's the thing that's holding things up. democrats are telling me that republicans and the white house don't want to give more money to the island, they're worried there's a humanitarian crisis brewing there and that congress isn't doing anything to help them out. >> you see that coming to a head soon? >> there will be a vote -- they're hoping to have a vote in the senate and there is word the house cannot pass it. >> please come back and talk about that, same for you. love having you both on. that does it for us this hour. you'll get more news on what's turning out to be a busy tuesday. good morning, everybody. we're going to start with the president. turning defense into offense. unlike his predecessors, president trump is not looking
to get past his scandal, instead trying to weaponize the mueller report. prescription for disaster. the trump administration changes course, saying that the entire affordable care act is unconstitutional. it could hit more than 11 million people who rely on the exchanges and tens of millions more with those preexisting conditions. avenatti arrested, the high profile lawyer for stormy daniels indicted on both cosast, changes ranging from bank fraud, embezzlement and trying to extort one of the biggest retailers in the world. we begin with president trump and his allies, looking to turn the mueller report into an weapon. the president heads to capitol hill to powwow with senate republicans. right now he's feeling pretty confident walking into the room after stressing that robert