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out in force outside the british parliament. we have a lot to get to this friday morning, but we start with president trump setting the table for his re-election fight. and yes, at that rally, of course he talked about the mueller investigation. took him about just 70 seconds to start on that in michigan. but this was also about his record. to hear the president tell it, his agenda is batting a thousand, the economy can only go up, and winning is going to be even easier this time around. he said we're working and fighting and winning. but that's not what today's headlines said. start with his agenda. this is one from the "washington post" just a few hours old. the white house's biggest priority, their revamp of nafta is at risk of stalling in congress. on the economy, "the new york times" says there are signs his most dependable talking point is eroding. and as for an easier win this time around like the president says, politico says the president has his eye on turning virginia red. why? because with a tenuous grip on states like michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania, the president is looking for opportunities to
expand his electoral playing field. i want to start with nbc's kelly o'donnell in west palm beach, florida, where the president is today. and kelly, listen, it's not new for a president to put their weaknesses out there as strengths, but i think he can make that sale to folks beyond just the crowd we saw last night? >> reporter: well, sale is the key point, because this president has long relished embellishing his record, his history, and some of that he puts in the category of putting his best foot forward and trying to appeal to voters. certainly, in a trump crowd like the arena in grand rapids last night, that was well received, and those supporters take part in it, but how do you expand beyond that? how do you reach to some of the obama voters from perhaps 2012 who sided with him and cast the ballot for him in 2016 who then have pulled away? part of the kind of voter base
that showed democrats what could be possible in 2018 with the gains that they saw. so, for president trump, there are big challenges, and at the same time, he has an ability to withstand some of the onslaught from adversaries, both real and some that he sets up, and also likes to talk very boastfully about his record. we saw a bit of that from the grand rapids event where the president was sort of gaming out his own history in politics, which is relatively short given his career and how he feels that tees him up well for 2020. here's an excerpt of the president. >> when i campaign, it's going to be so much easier the second time. remember this, i never did this before, and i'm 1-1, right? we're 1 for 1. >> reporter: easier is hard to imagine simply because the president as a candidate was running against the washington establishment.
he had no political record himself. now he has a record in office. there are highs and lows, to be sure, and lots of criticism has followed this president, some that he's been able to bat away, some that will linger. and certainly, he'll have some kind of formidable opponent when you see the size of the democratic field. so, easier seems like one of the ways the president tries to put a good polish on something. is he up for this fight? you could certainly sense that he gained some energy from the audience last night. he may enjoy being in that campaign environment more than some of the other aspects of his job. here in florida for the weekend here, he will be doing an event this afternoon where he'll be able to tour some infrastructure, so making it kind of a work day in florida. and then it certainly feels like a weekend of perhaps some golf and some other down time with family as the first lady and son barron are still here, kind of an extended spring break. hallie? >> there you go. kelly o'donnell, thank you.
philip rucker is white house bureau chief for the "washington post" and msnbc political analyst. zerlina maxwell, aide to the clinton campaign and msnbc political analyst, and tim carney, commentary editor for "the washington examiner." thanks to all of you. phil, let me start with you. and listen, we fact check president trump a lot here as journalists in the media, and he is correct when he says he went 1 for 1 as far as a presidential campaign. the question is, can he go 2 for 2, i guess, with this same style or not? >> yeah, well, he said last night that it would be easier for him the second time around, but that may not quite be right. he's going to have a hard time winning back those rust belt states, that trio of michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania, and he's got a pretty robust and enthusiastic democratic group of candidates wanting to challenge him. and we saw in the midterms last year, there's a lot of energy on the left to defeat donald trump. now he's going to be very difficult to defeat, but you know, he's going to have to work at it. >> tim, let me ask you, the
president, as we mentioned, right out of the gate, right? we knew from our reporting he was going to come out strong on this robert mueller report as summarized by attorney general bill barr. and yes, in fact, that actually ended up happening. here's a little bit of that. >> the russia hoax is finally dead. the collusion delusion is over. total exoneration, complete vindication. they tried to do everything possible to take us out, but we're very tough to take out, aren't we? very, very tough. >> so, contacts check here. while the president says total vindication, it is worth noting the attorney general's summary said while there was no evidence of conspiracy found with russia, mueller did not come down either way on the issue of obstruction. that said, this is a talking point for the president. can it last through november? >> yeah, the talking point
handed to him by his political opponents. there are so many things to look at with trump -- his hotels, particularly his businesses overseas. but i think the collusion idea, it was this idea that after you dug into it a little bit, always seemed a little bit far-fetched, but so appealing because it would seem to invalidate trump's winning. >> a year and a half from now, will people still want to listen to that and will the president still be talking about that? >> no, presumably, he'll have new enemies and punching bags -- >> are you sure? because in 2015 i remember him talking about hillary clinton and here we are four years later -- >> yeah, lock her up and that kind of thing. but trump needs enemies. will he be able to run the same race? no, because he doesn't have the gift of hillary as an opponent anymore. >> zerlina, how do democrats work on this? is there a way for them to take advantage of this and go after the president on this same issue over the next year and a half? >> sure, because we don't have the report yet. >> right. >> we have 64 words pulled out of a potentially 300-plus-page report, and we really don't know what the rest of the report
says. we only have a selected few words, no complete sentences. that's very suspicious. if this report completely exonerated the president, he would have tweeted it outline by line, hallie. i am convinced of that. and i think that democrats in this particular moment, we just have to look back at the last two elections. donald trump won the state of michigan. he was in last night. by 10,704 votes. that's barely nothing. in 2018, hallie, democrats, the governor won by ten points and debbie stabenow was re-elected by 6 1/2. so, i think that democrats are in good shape in terms of going into these rust belt states because the 2018 midterms show that they improved over 2016. >> phil, we started this discussion talking about the president's policies, the president's agenda, two years now into his administration. and one area that he wants to talk about is health care. and he says republicans are going to be the party of health care. well, in a new interview with politico, mitch mcconnell said this -- "i look forward to
seeing what the president is proposing and what he can work out with the speaker," which to my read, phil, is senator mcconnell saying, donald trump, you're on an island on this one. >> yeah, that's sort of, thanks, but no thanks, from the senate leader there. >> yeah. >> i mean, health care as an issue is such a gift for the democrats. it's one of the main reasons why democrats won back the majority in the house of representatives last fall, because of the health care issue, which resonates for their party with voters. so, it's a little perplexing that president trump would volunteer to bring this issue back forward with the move from the department of justice this week, but here we are. and i think democrats and republicans alike on capitol hill are going to be looking for what sort of plan does trump actually propose, other than, you know, a beautiful new health care plan. what are the specifics and the nitty gritty? we have not seen that yet. >> and i have multiple sources in my role covering the white house that acknowledge, right, there is not a clear plan and a clear path forward on policies
leaning on the democratic side. one thing the president said overnight is he doesn't want to talk democrats out of trying to pass the green new deal because, quote, i love campaigning against it. do you see that as a potential achilles' heel for your party? >> you're asking me, hallie? >> yes, zerlina. >> yes, i do think it's an achilles' heel because i think this sets up the potential for the democrats to explain the threat of climate change, right? we talk about climate change as a 2% to 4% warming of the planet. when that's actually in celsius, hallie. and so, i think that democrats have an opportunity to explain why we're seeing extreme weather, why water cannot be clean across the country, why it's dirty in places like flint, why we need different policies and regulations to protect our citizens. that's an opportunity. and donald trump has never, ever talked in specifics in terms of policy. and i hope, i implore us all in the media to hold him to the standard that we hold all the other candidates, which is to explain exactly what they're going to do. he can't say that he's going to
take away your health care and then replace it with something great when he's not able to articulate what that is going to be, and i think that as citizens, we should demand a lot more detail from this president, particularly because he's running for re-election, hallie. i think we should hold him to the standard we hold everyone else. >> yeah, i would just note that every time i've seen any interaction with the president, he's been asked about this, including on the white house south lawn yesterday, where he was asked specifically what his plan is, what a timeline for the plan would be. and then there's the other piece of this, tim, too, which is, as you write about in "plug alert," in your new book "alienated america," where you note it wasn't ctoes but closing churches that helped donald trump win, essentially the erosion of civil society is your argument. yet some of his voters went for a candidate who as president says things like we're about to play. and again, earmuffs if you have kids at home listening because we're going to play it for you unbleeped. >> the democrats have to now decide whether they will
continue defrauding the public with ridiculous bullshit. >> do voters, do you think, based on your reporting, your book, do they see this as just baked in with this president? >> yeah, and his core base of the people that came out, the 25% that originally supported him when he jumped in in 2015, those were people who weren't politically involved. that wasn't sort of religious conservatives as his earlier base. they came to him later. the early base were the alienated, the disaffected. and for him to come out and call bs on everything in washington and basically say i'm going to burn it all down, that was really appealing because they saw everything in washington was bs. so for him to call it for his core base, that's a guy finally willing to stand up and speak the truth. these ideas that we talk about with specific policies, health care bill, what are you going to do about climate change, that just sounds like more bs to people who have looked at their communities crumble, the economy go down, where they say, oh, well, free trade's going to be good for you, you'll be fine, and then their town is totally
crap a couple years later. they see the guy calling bs as the only guy speaking the truth. >> of course, democrats are calling bs in their own way. tim, phil and zerlina, thank you all for being with us. a new report accuses the president of exaggerating his net worth to lenders and investors. how it worked and whether it might put him in any legal jeopardy. plus, a breaking news report from london where lawmakers have voted for the third time now to stave on brexit, basically. what is next for this? we're going to go live to parliament and look at those protests. we're in that crowd, after the break. ts we're in that crowd, after the break.
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a live look now from high above london. look at that shot, protesters gathered outside parliament after they voted against theresa may's brexit plan. it's a move that now puts parliament back to square one. and the protests, as we've been watching, are getting bigger and bigger. this is the third brexit vote that may has brought to the floor that has failed. joining me now in the thick of it in london are nbc news correspondents bill neely outside parliament and ali arouzi with a group of protesters. bill, i want to start with you. wow! what happens next and what does it mean? >> reporter: yeah, it's deja vu all over again, and the greatest political crisis britain has faced in at least half a century continues. in fact, it deepens. three times theresa may has now
tried to get the deal that she spent two years negotiating with the european union through parliament. three times she's failed now. this time by 58 votes. remember, first time was 230 votes she lost by, then it was 149. at this rate, she might get the deal through by christmas, and there is no guarantee that she won't try yet again next week to get the deal through, but it's pretty clear this deal is deeply unpopular, pretty clear she is hanging on by a thread, and very clear that some of the people behind me, as i came here, they were shouting "betrayal" and "traitors." there's an ugly, ugly mood here. it was perhaps summed up by theresa may when she spoke after losing the vote. she said it was a matter of profound regret to her that this day, when britain was supposed to leave the european union, it has not left. let's take a listen to what she had to say just moments after she lost the vote. >> mr. speaker, i think it
should be a matter of profound regret to every member of this house that once again we have been unable to support leaving the european union in an orderly fashion. the implications of the house's decision are grave. >> reporter: so, where does she go from here? well, actually, she probably goes back to the european union to ask them for a much longer delay, also possibly, absurdly, britain may have to take part in european elections, elections for a european parliament to a body that britain actually wants to leave. at least that's what it said in the referendum. but the gridlock here, the chaos, the sense of betrayal on the streets is absolutely palpable. you know, britain is still in crisis. >> ali, are you getting a sense of that sort of feeling of betrayal, that palpable mood that bill's talking about? [ inaudible ]
>> reporter: hallie, i've lost your sound, but betrayal would be the word of the day here. there are several thousand protesters that have gathered here in parliament square. most of them want to see the united kingdom come out of the european union, and they're completely disillusioned with their government. i've been speaking to a couple of gentlemen that have marched down from the north of the country to be here for this vote, and let's have a quick word with them. why have you guys come down here? and how do you feel about the current government? >> blatant betrayal of democracy by the government who's been elected. that's more or less why we're here. it's been going on for two years now and we're no further forward with the process of getting out, and we feel like we're being held back by pure corruption. >> pure corruption. leave means leave. when we voted out in 2016, it said remain or leave. it doesn't say there was a second page, third page about soft brexit, hard brexit, none
of that. it said leave or remain. >> reporter: and what would you guys like to see next? would you like to see a donald trump-type figure take power in this country? >> anyone but these two -- >> anyone but these two parties. you've got -- the problem we've got is -- would do a really good job at this and he's more of a trump character. he is a strong politician of old age. he won't get in there. they clear and simply won't allow it. and that's the problem. it's totally corrupt now. >> reporter: thank you, guys. there you have it, hallie. they highlight the deep divisions in this country. it's a country that's torn apart today. the two sides want two different things, and it doesn't look like anybody's getting what they want here. >> ali arouzi, bill neely, our thanks to the both of you as you continue your reporting. i know on this network all day long. coming up, we may have more answers now on this ethiopian airline flight that crashed early this month, killing all
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presidential primaries always mean more of a microscope on iowa, right? but this year, it is feeling real intense as these democratic contenders try to get a toe hold. klobuchar, castro and warren are all on the ground this weekend in iowa. and listen to this, so far this year, 14 democrats have scheduled more than 200 public appearances there. that's more than twice as many events that candidates scheduled in the state during the same time frame over the last two elections. nbc news road warrior leanne caldwell is covering the warren
campaign in marshall town, iyt iowa. talk about what the senator has planned today and what you're hearing from iowa voters about potential burnout 500-plus days before the actual election. >> reporter: yeah, we have a long way to go, hallie, but iowa is central to elizabeth warren's campaign. she's been here at least half a dozen times since she announced her candidacy in february, and this weekend she's focusing on rural iowa. right now we're in marshall town. it's just a town of 27,000 people where the biggest employer here is a brazilian-owned meat processing plant. her event is about to start in an hour, hour and a half, so we're waiting for that. but what she's expected to do is to unveil another new policy, this one focused on farm consolidation. iowa farmers are hurting, not only because of the tariffs, they just went through major flooding, and also because of the consolidation of farming here in this country. and so, elizabeth warren is going to announce a new policy
to address this, and it's part of her entire theme of getting rid of corruption and changing the structure of the economy. and so, it's the first of three events, and she's expected to really hound these issues throughout the weekend, hallie. >> leigh ann caldwell live for us there. thank you. zerlina maxwell, director of political programming for sirius xm radio and an msnbc political analyst and nbc digital political reporter jonathan allen joining me. jonathan allen, listen, a lot of iowa, a lot of discussion about iowa. who needs tohere and do well there? and how do you think voters are feeling at this point? >> first, i hope you're not bored of iowa yet, because the caucuses are almost a year away, so it's going to be a while. >> and even if you are, guess what, too bad. >> right. and for comic relief, shameless plug for our friends at "veep" on hbo. they're coming out this weekend for the first time, so if you need a little -- >> to iowa? >> well, it's a presidential run season, so if you need comic
relief, you can look at that. >> fine. >> but in terms of who needs to do well in iowa, certainly the front-runners have to do well, your bidens, bernie sanders. if you're a front-runner and you don't do well in iowa, you're going to really tank for last, i think. >> yeah. >> in addition to that, i think a kamala harris, who is not polling particularly well there right now is going to have to make sure that she gets through iowa, gets to new hampshire -- >> i was going to say, it ultimately gets to south carolina, right? >> ultimately gets to south carolina, gets to nevada. people forget about nevada, the third state to vote before south carolina where you start to get voters of color, right? iowa and new hampshire very white states. you start to see voters of color, more labor voters in some of these states. and then also california is going to be voting concurrently with iowa, so that's a huge factor. so kamala harris is going to have to do well. i mean, everybody has to do well in iowa. and of course, the dark horse in the race, pete buttigieg may be starting to do well in iowa and may get momentum off that.
>> zerlina, when you look at the field, candidates are talking issues. they're talking about policy. voters, by the way, are talking about issues and policy as well. and there's not a lot of, like, sniping between the candidates, right? senator kirsten gillibrand, for an example, talked in broad strokes about health care with ari melber on this network. watch. >> health care should be a right and not a privilege. i hear about this no matter where i go in the country, whether i'm in michigan or iowa or in new hampshire or in new york state. number one issue out of people's minds is i can't afford health care and i want access. >> so, that's sort of the broad strokes health care look from senator gillibrand there, but that's also what we're hearing generally from many other candidates, too. at what point do the democrats need to start staking out more policy difference between and among themselves? do you expect that to kick up sort of around the first debate in june? >> yes, exactly. >> okay. >> and i think that we have precedent for that, if you look back to the 2008 cycle between hillary clinton and barack obama. they actually diverged in how they thought that we should
implement universal health care. barack obama was not for a public option in the primary but eventually adopted that hillary policy in his actual bill when he became the president. and so, i think that as we head into the first debate, which is now going to be in miami in june, i think that the candidates are going to talk in specifics, and i think that this is an opportunity to set a contrast between the democrats and republicans, because again, health care was a winning issue in 20018, so we don't have to speculate as to whether democrats are on track to defeat donald trump. we have precedent that shows that if they focus on the issues that people are talking about and the economy is slowing down, which there is some reporting that shows that the economy is potentially slowing down, which puts trump in a more vulnerable position, that focusing on these kinds of issues will be an effective tragedy going into these primaries and caucuses. >> you mentioned that first debate. shameless plug, june 26th and
27th right here on msnbc, nbc news and telemundo as well. we will be broadcasting it live over two nights. and somebody who says he's qualified for this debate is somebody who john allen just referenced, pete buttigieg. his campaign says they've met the requirement there of 65,000 people, donations from them, in at least 20 states, and he's a mayor from south bend, right? as "the chronicle" reports. he packed this 300-seat arena in san francisco yesterday. how do you see -- listen, this is a guy who's been getting approval from midwest, more moderate democrats, and more liberal west coast democrats, like in san francisco. do you see anybody else so far who's been able to get that kind of support from both of those camps? >> yes, i do. i think that, you know, there are a number of candidates that have actually been able to get that support. i think people forget about the fact that, you know, kamala harris both has that san francisco support but also has grassroots support. i think kirsten gillibrand also has a lot of grassroots support around issues like gender equity, feminism and campus sexual assault.
so, look, i think that pete buttigieg is an exciting candidate. i am excited that on our side we have substantive candidates who are charismatic, who people are excited about. what i want to caution everyone, though, is to hold all of the candidates to the same standard. in some instances, and i'm not saying as a generalization, but in some instances, we tend to get very, very excited, particularly as a political media class, about young, white men, because they are seen as having extremely exciting potential, and women generally are not looked at as, you know, exciting candidates for any leadership position based on their potential. they have to have all of the qualifications, they have to put out detailed policy plans like elizabeth warren. and yet, she's not talked about in the same way with the same enthusiasm. and i would caution everyone also to think that she's not necessarily a front-runner or
potentially could be in that top tier, because she's very good in the room, hallie. she's going to be very strong in the debates, and now she has the substance to back that up. so, i think that pete is exciting, but i want to say that the women are also exciting, and we should be excited about that history being made in realtime. >> zerlina maxwell, we'll leave it there. jonathan allen. thanks to the both of you. up next, president trump has never been shy about talking about his wealth and status, right? watch. >> i'm smarter than them. i went to the best schools they didn't. much more beautiful house. much more beautiful apartment. much more beautiful everything. >> but a new story in the "washington post" finds the president may have inflated his net worth to lenders and investors by adding ten stories to the real height of trump tower, by adding 800 acres to his winery just down south from us in virginia, and adding 24 ready-to-sell lots that he didn't have to his property in
california. those details, the work of "washington post" political reporter david fahrenthold. david is also an msnbc political analyst, a friend of this show, a friend of my show. david, thank you very much for being on with us. >> great to be here. >> so, tell me a little bit more about your new reporting, because this is a lot of detailed work that i know took a lot of time. walk us through what you found. >> well, we were looking at statements of financial condition. they're basically -- it's an official looking document about trump's assets, debts, his net worth that he would send out to people he was trying to get a loan from, apparently sent to people he was trying to get insurance policies from. basically it was his way of impressing people with a statement from his accountants. we went back and saw all of the different ways in which they were misleading. if you were using this as supposedly intended, as a way to get an accurate picture of donald trump's finances, what were all the ways in which you'd be led astray by this document? >> i want to read a little bit of your story here. you write -- and i'm going to read it here and we'll show it on screen -- "when donald trump wanted to make a good impression on a lender, a business partner,
or a journalist, he sometimes sent them official looking documents called statements of financial condition. but for someone trying to get a true picture of donald trump's net worth, the documents were deeply flawed. some simply omitted properties that carried big debts. some assets were overvalued, and some key numbers were wrong." so, david, is the president at risk here legally for these apparent misstatements? >> it's way too early to know about this. we know there's a huge amount of interest in these statements from investigators. so just in the last few weeks we've seen the house oversight committee requesting ten years' worth of these statements from trump's accountants in new york state, the insurance regulator and also apparently the new york attorney general have been interested in these statements and have sent subpoenas to trump's insurers and lenders. you know, what they find, we don't know yet. they don't know yet. >> right. >> the important legal consideration here, if there's going to be some sort of civil or criminal penalty for the trump organization, is how material were these errors, and
also exactly what warning did trump give to his lenders or insurers that there were problems in these statements? did he disclaim all the problems or were there some problems he didn't tell them about? >> is that your question, where your line of reporting goes next in your view? >> yeah, we need to see what these lenders and insurers actually got. >> got it. >> and when they got them, did they get any sort of caveat saying i just sent this to you, but don't trust it. >> we've bus alone talking about and you've been writing about the idea that the house veraco r oversight committee wants to see ten years worth of the president's financial records, before he was in office. chances the president complies with this request, david? give me what your sense is based on your reporting. >> well, they didn't ask for them from trump. they asked for them from trump's accounting firm. now, trump is a huge part of their business. he's one of their biggest clients. they're not that big of a firm, and they owe a lot to him. so you know, but they also, you know, they still want to survive as a regulated entity. so, this puts a lot of pressure
on these third parties. so, mazars joins deutsche bank as people who have kept trump's secrets for a long time, but now they're under pressure from investigators. i can't predict what they're going to give up. there's probably privacy concerns, but it's a huge amount of stress on the firm that's benefited a lot from trump. >> as of yesterday, a member of that committee told me that they had not heard back from this company yet. do you have any updates in the last 24 hours or are we still in wait and see mode? >> as far as i know, we're still waiting. >> cool. david fahrenthold, pleasure to see you on. great reporting, as always. >> still ahead, a heartbreaking story in south carolina. a mother searching for answers after her daughter, in just fifth grade, died after a fight with another student. died afte with another student look limu. a civilian buying a new car. let's go. limu's right. liberty mutual can save you money by customizing your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. oh... yeah, i've been a customer for years.
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admissions cheating scandal will start appearing in boston federal court. we're talking about just some of the 33 parents accused of bribing their kids' way into top-tier schools. so far, three people have pleaded guilty in the case, most recently yale's former women's soccer coach, rudy meredith. he admitted to accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars to pretend students were real recruits. and in south carolina, a community there is in shock as investigators try to figure out exactly what happened at a school fight that led to the death of a 10-year-old girl. reniah wright was knocked unconscious in the fight monday and she died wednesday from those injuries. nbc's tammy leitner is following this story for us. tammy, what do we know? >> really more questions than answers right now. and one of the big questions is whether bullying had anything to do with this young girl's tragic death. now, reniah wright got into a fight with another fifth grade student on monday at school, and it's unclear what led to that fight. school officials called 911.
and when medics showed up, they found her unconscious but still breathing at that point. she was rushed to the hospital, and two days later she was dead. according to a facebook post from her mother. now, the other student has been suspended, and there was a board meeting last night to discuss how to handle this incident. the school's decided to wait until police finish their investigation. let's go ahead and listen to what one community member who was at that meeting had to say. >> i came out here for answers. i came out here like everyone else out here, wanting answers on how this happened, you know, what's going to be done to prevent it from happening again. >> an autopsy is scheduled for today, and hallie, as you can imagine, the entire community is very concerned over what happened. essentially, a 10-year-old girl is dead after a school fight, and there are still very few answers. >> that's just devastating. tammy leitner, thank you for that update. coming up on this show, 2020 plan of attack part two.
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they're playing out online, too, in some eye-popping numbers. in the first three months of the year, the president's team spent more money on facebook ads than all of his democratic opponents combined. a new nbc news analysis found they tend to focus on some familiar issues, like the border wall, and some familiar nemesises like sentar chuck schumer, nancy pelosi, even freshman congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez. then there's this from the crowd in michigan overnight. >> every mainstream leading democratic contender is taking the advice of a freshman congresswoman who three weeks ago didn't know the three branches of government. [ crowd chanting ] >> aoc sucks! >> joining me now, the reporter who did the analysis of those facebook political ads and politics reporter gloria smeen
kroe. we saw how much the president is spending on his ads. walk us through your analysis of what he's actually spending it on. >> yeah, so $3.6 million. that's more than all of the democratic candidates combined. and what he's doing is talking to his base. so, he's doing really the same thing that he's doing at his rallies. he's not talking about visions that he has for the country. he's tapping into his base. he's calling them. he's saying buzz words that they know, attack, you know, scary boogie men that they will click on and give their contact information on and donate to the campaign. so, you get a lot of, 40% of these ads, 40% of 42,000 ads specifically mention nancy pelosi, chuck schumer by name. you know, a lot of it's about the wall. and a lot of the content really is just following the president's daily life. so if he starts talking about the wall, you're going to get an ad about the wall. if he starts talking about the mainstream media and how they're all out to get him, you're going to get an ad about that on facebook. >> and what about targeting, right? because it seems like we can
learn something about the president's campaign goals by looking at who he's going after with these ads. >> right. so, right now it looks like he's going after generally everybody, because that's what the democratic contenders look like, right? contenders look like, they're so far out. as it gets smaller we'll see him probably attack specifically candidates. we're seeing from the data he's targeting wide geographic regions. that says to us he's working off existing lists. he's got these mega lists from the rnc that he's combined himself and he's sending out, pinging his base, enraging his base with riling-up ads. >> gloria, you cover, there in new york, congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez. talk about somebody with a lot of social media followers, who gets a lot of clicks. she seems to be a new foil for the president, for his son, as you just saw. talk through how she's responding to this. >> in many ways she's the perfect foil. part of what she's said in response to specifically a poll that came out a couple of days ago showing that she has -- her
favorability rating has dipped slightly across the country, she has said this is as a result of her being targeted by the right wing media. there has been an analysis done of how much time fox news and others have spent covering her. and her theory is, look, the right wing media is covering me so much that they're actually essentially ginning up opposition. and as we saw in the rally last night, a chant there breaking out, "aoc sucks," before the president came out to speak. he did not mention her by name but he has referenced her green new deal. this is all, as i said, she in many ways is a perfect foil for the republican party. >> what do you think it is, just to note too, it sounded like "aoc sucks," it could have been "nancy sucks," it's a little unclear. what do you think it is about alexandria ocasio-cortez that has her right in this position?
you talked about how she's the perfect foil. but why is she in that role? >> well, you know, the president can look at what she has proposed. he can look at the green new deal and he can say to his base, this is someone who is a socialist democrat. she supports socialism. and he will raise concerns about the things she has proposed, how much money it's all going to cost, how unobtainable it all is, and it helps them rile up the base, as you saw the son's -- the president's son there describing her as a freshman congresswoman, which is accurate, she is a freshman congresswoman, but he was essentially mocking her for not knowing the three branches of government. i will say she has had some slip-ups in the last few months where she's made some confusing statements about the tax system and how certain parts of government work.
so she has certainly not been without fault. but she has corrected the record and said, yes, sometimes i make mistakes and i correct them. but again, that feeds the fodder that the republican party wants to use against her. >> so we have the president putting out facebook ads going after aoc, she's putting out facebook ads going after president trump. but the social media strategy for both the president and, frankly, for democrats too, how do you expect to see that strategy change on the part of the president's campaign closer to 2020 and the same question for democrats as well. >> right. right now we're seeing just him speaking generally against democrats and democratic ideals in the media. as people come out and start to really talk about policy and get more camera time, he can point to specific slip-ups or specific things that have happened on the campaign trail and he can really ding them for that. this president and his campaign, specifically these ads, they're very personal. they're very cutting. it's like, you know, on the
playground, basically. they're not really thoughtful comments on policy or ideas. so i think you'll see a lot of attack ads and that will continue. but as the democratic campaign, you know -- as the campaigns winnow down to a few select frontrunners, the attack ads will go for them. >> thank you both for being on the show, i appreciate that. speaking of congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez, she joins chris hayes in the bronx for a special event. they're talking about her green new deal proposal and her ideas for getting more support this in the halls of congress. that will be tonight, 8:00 eastern, right here on msnbc. still ahead, an nbc news exclusive report, a request from the department of homeland security to quickly deport unaccompanied migrant kids back to their home countries. we're following that, and the breaking news in london, a third vote on brexit that just failed, raising major questions about the future of the uk and the
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digital properties too. that wraps up this hour of "msnbc live." craig will be back with you next week. meantime, "andrea mitchell reports" starts now with andrea herself, hello. >> hello! can't wait for those debates. and thank you for joining us. coming up on "andrea mitchell reports," the latest brexit vote could mark the downfall of prime minister theresa may. >> mr. speaker, i think it should be a matter of profound regret to every member of this house that once again we've been unable to support leaving the european union in an orderly fashion. the implications of the house's decision are grave. unleashed. in a campaign-style tirade the president tries to claim victory over robert mueller and goes after an enemies list of congressional democrats. >> the democrats have to now decide whether they will continue defrauding the public
with ridiculous bull [ bleep ]. and rare reversal. donald trump lets his education secretary take the fall for trying to cut funding for the special olympics even though this is her agency's third attempt to defund the program. >> i want to thank the president for responding to your voices. that's how democracy is supposed to work. and guess what, it worked. and this breaking news, good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington, we begin with the breaking news, political chaos and paralyzing uncertainty for the united kingdom. prime minister theresa may's future in doubt after failing for a third time to rally a majority of british lawmakers around a brexit deal to leave the european union, putting britain back on the clock with a deadline to deliver a brexit plan to the eu just two weeks from now. joining me now,