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all right. that will do it for me this week. join me to break down major stories of the week. you can always hit me up on oeshl social media. r good evening and welcome to politics nation. i'm getting to it. that's the line from william barr who will not make tuesday's deadline set by congress to make the mueller report public. instead it will be mid-april before we get our heavily redacted copy. until then we have to content ourselves for the four page
psa summary. setting up this last week's victory and insisted he wanted to see the report more than anyone. apparently the people agree with him because a new washington post poll shows an overwhelming 83% of americans want the mueller report made public in its entirety. 57% say barr hasn't told us enough and our latest news poll finds 40% of americans don't believe the hype from barr that the mueller report cleared the president of wrong doing. 31% are unsure and 39% of americans about the size of
trump's base the guideline. joining me is former chief of staff most americans seem not to be satisfied with the full page. if you take out the headings it is more like three in a row. it is the summation of this 400 page report particularly when it does say clearly they don't exonerate the president in terms of obstruction. >> the key part that it does not exonerate the president. people are probably wondering if it doesn't exonerate him and it also doesn't go far enough to legally say he obstructed justice then what exactly does
some of that underlying evidence lead to? i also think that democrats have to be slightly careful here. he tweeted this out a couple of days ago. it was the sixth most important issue for democrats, the least most important for republicans and the tenth most important issue for all voters at large. it indicates while the american people do want to see what's in it they are concerned about issues like health care, the committee, the slowing down of the housing market. i do think we need to see what's in it. i think democrats need to focus in on what i don't think he is focusing on right now. >> clearly we need to see the report. we also need to deal with issues. it is a time democrats need to walk and chew gum at the same time. >> that's precisely right.
democrats can do that. congress will continue to exercise authority. once the report is made pub luck th public they will look into that. this is why pelosi is so respected. democrats will make sure they matter to all americans like improving the economy, education and health care which republicans are still focused on repealing the aca democrats can do both. i have to tell you, i was really thrilled to see the findings in this poll. i'm glad to know a majority of americans still want to make sure their vote is protected, the integrity of our systems are in tact and they will not feel at fied until they see this full report. >> there's no doubt about it. i think one of the things that is very very alarming to me is the republicans, the right wing
who have been the ones that say we are the patriarchs seem to almost put aside the fact that there has been clear findings of russian interference in an american election. i mean how do you have it both ways? we are the ones that are protecting the country. we are going to make marginalize the issue of whether or not our elections and voters in those elections were influenced by a foreign adversary. >>. >> the answer to that is simple. their guy won. republicans particularly the republican base would be in we uproar saying she should not have won. she only won because of russia's help. because trump won and they believe trump is delivering on at least some of the things he prochls promised most of them are going to let it skirt around the rug. it is hip chypocritical.
they have taken a more quiet tone as it relates to donald trump and his position. the president himself hasn't gone far enough to talk r tell putinthat is not semiable and we have to make sure it within the happen again. >> when the president says his total exoneration that's just not true. >> the president is probably comparing that report and the ultimate conclusions of no experience, no collusion, no kwakt with any russian i manage into. it is a successful phases. here we are on fox news saying
that it's not true. there's no clearing him of obstruction as we have claimed. kellyanne didn't directly answer that. when you read the summation letter where he says it did not exonerate the president it could mean they didn't have enough to make it criminal and it could mean that he needs the justice department to tell him he could indict a sitting president. we don't know what that means. >> you know, i think the way we are sitting here speculating it is really bad for trump.
what we are going to do until this report is made public is we are going keep reliving and relitigating all of the things that trump and the trump d campaign did to make us feel there was possible collusion. so the fact she would say it is insulting her campaign was accused is ludicris. there were so many things which we'll keep relitigating time and time again. so many instances since the campaign that have made us wonder if there was collusion.
>> we may disagree on a lot of issues. the fact of the matter is not that he says i want it out. put it out. >> there's no legal rules or structural rules that will prohibit him from doing so. this is why many republicans and the senate have stated it will come out as soon as possible. donald trump won key electoral states. >> absolutely. it is until -- >> yes. >> once it becomes clear who that front runner is i would argue there is a legitimate argument that could be made to the less than 100,000 in places like pennsylvania, wisconsin and michigan who may say i don't necessarily like the direction
the country is going and as far as the deviciveness. there is a case to be made that if it comes out in this report that donald trump acted in a way people find to be repulse iive embarrassing. it is not good for donald trump seeking reelection in 2020. >> i worry about the senate already tonight. sit like the bread and butter systems but do this at the same time basically the congress ought to do what they do. i think that the real question that comes to mind here when we are looking at even the report is when they say we have to redact grand jury which they can go and get the court to agree to release it because it has been
done before but they have been released in the report and they say we have to redact security stuff. who decides those that are national security risks? how do we know it is fairly going to be redacted? >> i'm so glad you raised this point. that's exactly the case. redacted information, what's considered to be a matter of national security or not in terms of what's being released is up to esz essentially the department of justice. so that is wlu it is so critically important that the underlying information be released that was used as the basis for determining what's in the report that that information is released. the american people deserve to have as much transparency.
i think until all of the information is out there to be made public people are still going to have questions and are going to wonder how biassed is this information and especially if the mueller report has, you know, 50 to 60% of that is redacted it will raise a lot of questions. i think transparency is key. release the report in full so we can all see it. >> wouldn't it be fair to neglect the whole report, the redactions be seen by intelligence community? >> i was going to say i don't think it needs to be released to the american people. i do think it should be released to the house judiciary committees. >> ten n full. >> in full. >> i'm reminded what he did during that time to make sewer their saw the underlying
evidence. he issued it and it was therefore they didn't have to deal with the president trying to maneuver around. i'm curious why mueller didn't do that. i think those two committees in particular need to see that underlying evidence. if again the president acted in a manner that is problematic even some republicans may say we need to do something more to check the president here. >> that might be why they are in the chair of the intelligence committee in the house. you remember what it is? >> i did my research. >> all right. >> coming up, oolt potential 2020 presidential candidate. maybe make an announcement? we'll see. he's right there. n announcement we'll see. he's right there or could it tt differently?
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welcome to politics nation. >> thank you. it's an honor to be on your show. >> have you made up your mind in let's go. >> i'm not going to announce tonight. i'm taking a very serious look at this race. >> and what do you need to know? what would make you decide one way or another? zb what i'm trying to answer is the question of how i best serve is country? i started serving in 2008 when i joined the marines. it was an african american baptist minister in my college church that talked about service. it's not enough to believe in service or support others you have to do something yourself.
in't even in the middle of a war dill -- i said this is never going change if we are not willing to be i'm doing to say is this is best cays to serve the country. when you talk to people i have met with students. i have met with et veterans. i can tell you a lot of people right now are hurting. i think what they are looking for is someone who can give us a pathway who is get weapons of war off of our street and ensure we have health care for everybody.
i think that's what many will come down to, jobs, skurtd and trust. >> i'm talking about with voters. >> job security and trust is what you're hearing as you move around the country. how do you distinguish yourself from those already running in those areas? let me give you this to think about as you come with your answer, in the new nbc poll voters but asked about their level of enthusiasm. joe biden leading with 33% followed by sander, harris and warren and o' rourke. what would make people more enthused and why do you think the level of enthusiasm for the candidates that are on the poll
now? >> well, i think there are some amazing candidates running. i know almost everybody you mentioned. they are great examples of the people rehave and it will lent we have. i think what i bring is a little bit different. the hardest thing i have ever done is leading a platoon in the middle of a war many of us disagree with. we had to bring together marining from all over this country, people can different religious believes, different believes to get united behind common mission. i think that's what the next commander and cleef is going hi going to, show us the way forward. we need a commander in chief that believes in the promise of america and upgs that smerk not
perfect. >> but there will have to be palsies laid out. sol devil is in the details. we have to bring m we are very polarized. there is systemic inequality and built in levelsover of unfairn that we have got to have policies that will address that. >> health care, it's a major issue. you have the republicans and the administration trying to take health care away. you this new litmus test in the democratic party that you to be for med we have been better than
a health care plan designed in 1963 would be a modern version. i know what it is all about. when i got elected i made it to continue getting my own health care. let me tell you, it's not perfect. i do not want to force people off of the private health care plans if that's what they prefer. i would rather see them have to compete against a public ogs and that means may the best care or best health care win that's american ingenuity at its best. >> sounds to me like you done a lot of thinking about this. take it from a baptist minister you sound like somebody that is leaning that way but i'll wait.
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civil rights leaders at this year's national action network in new york. one of them is vermont senator bernie sanders. joining me now is congressman of california now a top adviser to senator bernie sanders 2020 presidential run assigned to be a point person in silicon valley. thank you for being with us. let me start with this. you know i raised questions in 16 about senator sanders. he marched in the 60s and did other things. i think in the last two years he
has been up front on a lot of issues we challenged him on. is that what he discusses in the convention this week and the fact that we need to deal with you on point for this campaign the lack of diversity in the and digital divide for the american public. >> i appreciate you saying that. i think he has heard the con strktive feedback from you and other civil rights leaders. like you he worked on jackson's campaigns. he has a con treat agenda. he will talk about the statistics are shoging. the average household has 7 cents.
after ri kwan americans are about he is going to have an aaen da on health care, infrom struck kwhur. you're abchutely right. part of the key issue is tackling and giving mof students to the digital me when you have kochk men in that area, when you look at the it it is like the rocky mountains. the higher up you get the whiter it gets. we are not seeing the kind of diversity reflected. this is a younger new kind of generation billionaire and huge economy. their policies in terms of decision making and contracts leave a lot to be desired.
>> i think your criticism is accurate. we have about a 3% african american work force. even if we are doing better it is not dratranslating into more being part of the executive suites and being funded with venture capital. we need to do far better as a country to provide these economic opportunities. it's not just a pipeline issue. you know that the talent is there. the ambition is there. it is a lack of networks and lack of intentionality. it's a look forward for working on. >> in terms of krcriminal justi it has had a number of any number of police shootings and indents we really need to deal with that and really need to deal with mass incarceration.
you come from those that thought these social issues in india, members of your family working with him. we need a real transformation on how we deal with justice. >> by need a change in the law. one of the things i'm working on is the change of what force is allowed by police officers most others say before you can use force, before you can choose someone that's unarmed you to exhaust all other options. it has to be absolutely necessary. that's the ston dard in france in u.k. in nor way. we have to ayman adopt that so that they know that force is the absolute last resort and not
something that can be down lightly. i'm working to try to write that legislative change. >> and you working on this on a federal level in terms of legislation. >> yes. as you know there's a legislation in california similar but i think we need federal legislation that says if you want federal funding for police officers and you want extra federal funding you need to adopt a standard that makes for it the last resort. not only will it help protect lives like clark or places where it was clearly disproportionate. i thit will lead to less violence. this is a standard that say human rights standard and n almost every other country.
we need to adopt it here. we can't say rhetorically we need change we need change in the law. >> thank you for being with me. we'll be watching as that law moves through congress. thank you congressman connor. up next, internationally acclaimed musician composer and educator and a leading advocate of american culture. >> this just in. you buy politics nation and much more on our web sielt. visit msnbc. you can wear what i do every morning when i do my predawn exercise. be right back. predawn exercise be right back. after months of wearing only a tiger costume, we're finally going on the trip i've been promising.
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one is trump composer and band leader who has been outspoken on and off the stage about trump administration policies and as artistic director he is releasing hundreds of historical recordings over the next five years. it's all music to our ears here at politics nation. joining me now on stage is artist and activist. thank you for being here. >> such a pleasure to be here. >> it is out. >> let me ask you before i get into any of the political views you, you are starting the release for the next five years of 500 -- >> 100. >> 100 albums. it is called the music never stops. tell us wry you close the first
one. as i started to listen to the archive the earlier regards i did it. after 20 or 30 concerts. one came up and every song was great on that. she raised money for the concert. our first concert she would always come and do any concerts we needed her to do. she was at wbgo. they were our partners at that time. we had a lot of powerful ladies. i was 26 or 27 years old. it didn't know anything that was going on. they were like guardian angels that allowed us to develop. she is the -- she gave the most successful that i have ever seen. she is one of our truly greatest musicians that became really
great like greg suchen son krrk crus she wasn't somebody you could play with. she a great come peaser unless you're vr outspeak an this is a testament to it. normally i kind of reprogram the songs. with this one i could not change anything that she had done. it's a from gregs. it features, strings, big lan, all many understand how cull thursday in terms of our politics and our discourse an we
female you have been very much an ambassador but never bit your tongue on what was gong on in politics. >> no. they had the ability to speak to our own whatever our group is. many times the truth that you have to speak of the things you know or the things that are closest to you are people that are like you. for you to be honest and truthful we deal with a certain type of objectification. all of people i knew that were outspeaken and not people that are famous or well known. my mother was very clear about things and very philosophical also. she grew up in the projects. she understand what was going on. she was a social worker. she had a lot of kids. she had a lot of struggles in her life. >> as successful as you have been you also not ran away from
race. some fear you better run away from race. you run to it. i remember conversations that fascinated me how detailed you understand the history of after ri kwan cultures around the world. >> yeah, i love the culture. and there's a fundamental route that we all -- first time i was in japan -- i grew up in segregation so everything when i was growing up was racial. a lot of problems. people in that generation were first integrated. i didn't like it. got called names i didn't want to be called by some, not by all. it was a way of life. when i first went to japan, i looked around and nobody here was white or black. a lot of the world doesn't fall into the t balancttles we have between each other. something comes from outside of us, but we're both the same thing to them. in our country we need to get ourselves together in term of how we address each other in our history, legacy, and tradition.
that's in our arts and that's what we're about in jazz at lincoln center. all of our music is modern. >> you know about two to three weeks ago i had former new orleans mayor on and he talks about his book as a southern mayor taking down the confederate statues. and he said that what inspired him to do it was a conversation with you. he called you when the issue came up and when you got off the phone he knew had he to take the statues down. i don't know how many people know you are the one that is responsible for that. >> he's responsible because he had to expend his political capital to it. we were in a coffee shop. we've known each other a long time. he was a trumpet player. he played trumpet. we were talking about the fact that he was talking about how many black homes he had to go into for kid who had been shot.
we were talking about crime. i said there's no such thing as black on black crime. people commit crimes where they are. if you're around people that are chinese you commit chinese crimes. if you're around whatever. he was trying to get the black mardi gras black. the black mardi gras used to be on cleburne avenue but the city government ran causeway through it as many times is the case with traditions that happen and people get disenfranchised. he said when he went to the community and said let's bring this back, people didn't remember it used to be there. >> wow. >> they were against bringing it back. in that context, we began to discuss -- it wasn't white/black conversation. we had a middle aged trumpet player conversation. people know each other, mama, daddy, children, stuff like that. we started to talk about it. i said if you want to do something symbolically, take
this statue down. my great uncle hated that statue. i lived with my great uncle when i was six. back in the day you didn't know why you were with them, but you were with them for a certain amount of time. he didn't have hot water in his house. i learned so much from him about how he was. he was a stone cutter for the cemetery. in new orleans we bury people above ground. e had said do you know what, i'm going to find out whose jurisdiction that statue is in. he called me. he said that statue is in my jurisdiction. we talked about it more and i said let's go to the king quote, the time to do it -- the time is always right to do what is right. >> that's right. >> and he made the decision and he expended his political capital to do it. i'm in new york. i'm not -- >> well, it's a great story, and betty carter is a great
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>> as we convene this week, national action networks convention wednesday and hear from most of the major presidential candidates and civil rights leaders and elected officials and young activists, this is about laying out a strategy, going into action workshops, and really saying how do we deal with preserving voting rights? how do we deal with income inequality? how do we deal with racism and institutional bigotry? how do we solve the problems of unequal health care in terms of different people of different races and even gender inequality when it comes to income? environmental racism is part of climate change. real policies and an action plan to institute them. yes, we are angry about a lot of things. but those that are trying to
roll back the clock don't care that we're angry. they care when we're organized and when we strategize to stand up for what so many people gave their lives and gave their time to try and give us that is being rolled back. so, our anger must be channelled into action, and our action must be intentional, deliberate, and well-thought out. wherever you are, whoever you are, you need to be part of something. if you're not part of it, start something that has a strategy that will preserve what needs to be preserved and stop whart wha needs to start. no one cares that we're upset. some of them enjoy it. they care when we organize and do what those ahead of us did in the first place, change this country for the better. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next
saturday at 5:00 p.m. eastern. until then, keep the conversation going. like us at facebook.com/politicsnation and follow us on twitter @politicsnation. up next, "meet the press" with chuck todd. >> this sunday the fall out. president trump claims victory over the mueller report. >> total exoneration, complete vindication. >> allies line up to defend him. >> and what did we hear this week? no collusion. no obstruction. >> a total vindication. >> and the president goes after his opponents. >> little pencil neck adam schiff. >> but democrats push back. >> the president has not been exonerated by the special counsel. >> and condemn mr. trump's conduct. >> i think it's immoral. i think it's unethical.