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let's hear it for the tar heels and the class they showed in the heat of battle with so much on the line. that's "hardball" for now. all in with chris hayes starts right now. tonight on all in. >> i'm under audit, but that's up to whatever it is. the law is 100% on my side. >> pulling out the stops to block house democrat from seeing his tax returns. >> i fight to pay aslets as possible. >> he stacked the irs in his favor. >> i want you to know i had permission to hug lonnie. >> the political calculation behind joe biden's not apology tour. >> i'm sorry i didn't understand more. i'm not sorry for any of my intentions. >> plus a new lawsuit filed to get the mueller report released to the public.
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one of the democratic candidate who is now qualified for the debate stage. >> there is no way i can do this alo alone. >> andrew yang joining me. >> donald trump is doing everything he possibly can to keep congress from seeing his tax returns. lawyers retained took a very hard line against a democratic request from congress for six years of trump's returns. president at lawyers instructed the treasury department not to comply and insisted trump had no legal obligation to do so. we are confident that the attempt will not succeed. trump was asked about his lawyer's stance about his visit to the border where trump came to pretend that replacement phel fencing during the obama
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administration had put a plaque. >> we have seen the letter that your lawyers have said about your tax returns. anything you would like to say? >> nothing whatsoever. nothing to say about it. i got elected. they elected me. they keep going. i'm under audit. when you are under audit. you don't do it. nobody would do it when you are going through an audit. i always go through audits. they audit me all the time. >> his dubious claims about being under audit is part of a strategy to keep the returns private. the president is installed people who are likely to do his bidding into top positions in much the same way he installed william barr whose job application clearing him. charles rhett ig argued that
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trump should not release his tax returns. trump was so invested in the confirmation of the chief counsel that according to a new story in the "new york times," he asked mitch mcconnell to prioritize a vote for that guy, saying it was more important than getting barr confirmed. interesting. as you probably guess, this was not a random o pointee. he advised the trump organization on tax issues and also worked in private practice with trump or lawyers. he stacks the irs with allies and insists he has the law on his side. >> i'm under audit and that's up to whoever it is. the law is 100% on my side. >> let's be clear. that's 100% false. according to the law, if the chair of the house ways and means committee makes a written request, the treasury secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return
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information specified. there is no wiggle room there. that's the law passed by congress and signed by a president. they are careful not to give trump an out. >> we followed irs guidelines. that suggests to taxpayers that six years is generally the measurement they use for advising taxpayers on how long to keep their forms. we didn't want to have the case perhaps dismissed on a technical glitch. i think as i said to you now for a long period of time, we have taken a very methodical approach to what will likely be an established court case. >> we know about the ways the president is profiting such as when just for example foreign dignitaries stay at trump's hotel to curry favor with the president. there is corruption congress can't know about unless they see the president's tax returns. for some reason, trump really,
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really does not want that to happen. joining me to discuss the attempt to stonewall is chris liu. i thought it would be useful it start off with a comparison. there is a way in which he got away with this and normalized it because it's so insane. not only did he not release his taxes during the campaign, but what was the standard operating procedure in the obama white house? >> every president going back to richard nixon put forward their tax returns. that's something that routinely happens in a campaign. you put it out. >> not just during the campaign, but once you become president, you are abiding by the law. >> every april 15th, the press would dissect it to say how much you gave in charity and what your income was. that's a standard practice. >> if the idea is thaw are under audit and can't do it, every president has a special process
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generally. the irs runs them through an audit and they did that. >> she not under audit every year. let's consider this whole issue involving the irs chief counsel. don't get me wrong. this is an important job that you want to move to the front of the queue. let's think about this. there is no appointee for the secretary of defense and the ambassador to mexico or head of ice. the fact that you move this person to the front of the line, you don't have to be much of a conspiracy theories. >> the president is a details man. >> here cares about the letter of the irs law and shall means shall. no wiggle room. >> among many things, you are a lawyer. >> i am. >> the legal presentation in that letter is wild. >> any first year law student can drive a truck through the hole that letter creates. they can only ask for the tax
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returns if there is a legitimate legislative purpose. any student can spinout hypotheticals about why the president should have to divest all assets. maybe he shouldn't be owning a hotel down the street from the white house and engaging in foreign activities. all of those things can be the subject of legislation. >> where do you think -- what are the political stakes? it is interesting to me that though the president has taken vocally and facially i don't think we should do it, they basically had gone zero to 60 right away. >> this is going to play out in the courts and it will be interesting because the letter of the law is clear, but given the assault that this administration had on the judiciary in terms of putting the judges on and see what the judges do with a very clear reading of a statute. >> this is part of the subtext here. they have done this with a bunch of cases and unprecedented in
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skipping circuit and appellate courts. they think they have five cronies sitting in the supreme court who will vote with them no matter what the law says. >> conservative justice is supposed to look at that time and there can be no plainer meaning than shall means shall. it would be a travesty of justice if you find five supreme court justices who said shall doesn't mean shall. >> will the courts step in? >> the courts will step in. they asked for an opinion and they will get the opinion they want. the ways and means committee through the house general counsel will have to sue through this. >> chris liu in the obama administration, thank you. >> for more, i am joined by the senior editor of republica and d.c. report.
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david, you have been a tax reporter for years. what's the context for the power that ways and means has under the law to make this request? >> this law is stronger than what you just discussed. it empowers the chief of staff for the joint tax committee. that's not a tax person, but a lawyer hired by congress. the chief of staff for that committee has the power to get tax returns. they are provided with tax returns all the time. if you have a refund of $2 million or more, this is checked by congress. it's anti-corruption. what they are saying is i am above the law. >> there is a question you have been report indepth. now we have a question about the institutional fortitude of the place. it is besieged by forces that are particularly since 2010 republicans working hard to make it harder to enforce tax law and now it's an ultimate case.
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>> it's a broken bureaucracy starved of funding and tense ever thousands of people have left. it doesn't adequately audit c p corporations or the wealthy. interestingly enough, it has been very resistant to political pressure. >> that's my point. >> there are only two appointees in a bureaucracy of 70,000 people. they don't have an enormous amount of power. so you could see -- it might be difficult for them to wield the kind of power that would result in blocking this, but of course then it will fall to treasury and treasury wields a lot of power over the irs. the irs is within treasury. it remains to be seen, but it's a credit to the bureaucracy that this has not leaked yet. they are hardworking and dedicated civil servants and honorable people. they believe in the tax laws,
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but we have to see about this giant court fight. >> there is a ridiculous assertion here that the letter that trump's now lawyers, our firm welcomes the opportunity to represent president trump in his capacity as a taxpayer. it's like he's a private citizen. it's not like a meta physical question. he's the question of the united states. he doesn't goat get to get out that. >> they are trying to find their way around the language we had since 1924. shall. it's not just tax returns, but tax information. it shall be provided. anti-corruption law. let's call the irs what they are. the tax police. donald trump is proposing to go against the tax police. >> he is also proposing in a bizarre way to intercede -- one
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part of the government asked another part of the government for this information they are entitled to by law and here comes his private lawyers to say you can't do that. >> pretending he is a private citizen. this is a type of existence. that's really not going to stand, i doubt, unless you get to the supreme court because of the issue we were discussing. you need a legitimate legislative purpose. that is obvious. not just in looking at the president in corruption, but how the wealthy are audited and how the games that the wealthy play. the list goes on and on and on for what congress has legitimate purpose in looking at his returns for. >> it's worth zeroing in. we know he didn't release his back taxes naryear, but he got into office and hasn't released them. we on this show would call up to
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ask whether he had filed or filed for an extension and got no answer for months. they wouldn't answer the question whether he filed his taxes or filed for extension. we called back on october 15th and got no answer about whether he filed. there is an open question about what he is doing now as president. >> in addition let's ask questions about is his return under audit, he wouldn't release the letters. is there a procedure for auditing? one of the things he is no doubt worried about, if congress gets his tax returns, will congress then order further investigation and find out that the records he gave the irs do not match up with financial transaction record that is the government has for money flowing across borders. >> say more on that. >> one of the question is about donald, hasly been laundering money for oligarchs and wealthy
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people through real estate transactions and other deals? it can be traced if you want to put enough time and money into it. if he listed revenue from one place and the records of the transactions show it's a lot more or less, he can have serious problem there is that go way beyond taxes. >> first of all, let's talk about the audit. there is nothing restricting someone under audit from releasing tax returns. that is bogus. the whole time. the other thing is very few people are under perpetual audit. he should be under quasi-audit as president, but that's also bogus. the tax returns are not the rosetta stone that let us know everything about every source of funding that he ever had. he will have overlapping llcs and a russian doll of corporate
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structures. no pun intended. they are not going to tell us whether he has been laundering money or dubious debts or he owes money to questionable characters. >> that's the starting point for that. >> that's not a necessary thing. it's not useless, but it's not going to -- the skids will not fall from our eyes. >> that's a useful caution. thank you both for being with me. now on the democrats in congress who wants to see the president's tax returns, maxine waters from california. first question, congresswoman, why is it so important. why do you support the actions by your fellow democrats to get the president's tax returns. >> first of all, it has been stated over and over again that so many other presidents released their tax returns. everybody expects that the president of the united states would follow suit. he would release his returns. he's lied, he said that they are
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under audit. he never intended to release them. he is not going to release them until we make him. until we force him to do it. he thinks now that if he goes to court, if he ties it up in court, if he makes it go on long enough, he will get to the supreme court, he thinks he owns enough votes in the supreme court in order to be protected. this president is an expert criminal who knows how to do everything possible to protect himself. all of those people who get in the way who happen to be hired by government will be fired. he attacks any government official who denies him what he wants to have. so we know enough about him now in order to want to get those tax returns to find out a lot more about him. first of all, he lies about his net worth. secondly, there is information
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floating around that shows that in fact he has earned money that he has funneled into the foundation that should have been money declared in his tax returns. it goes on and on and on. we have every reason in the world to want to see them. we have to fight for them. the law gives the ways and means committee the right to go after them and we cannot let up. >> you are referring to there some of the investigations by the new york attorney general into the tax foundation and improperly moving money from the trump organization, which is for property. you with secretary mnuchin in your committee, do you trust him to do the right thing? >> oh, no. absolutely not. he's part of the gang. he's one of the boys. he's not going to do anything
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that he thinks the president of the united states would get angry about and fire him or get rid of him. no, i don't trust him at all. he's part of the clique. >> there broader implications for the knowing about the president's possible corruption or possible improper eaavenues influence over him? >> let me say this. the president of the united states thinks he owns his cabinet. he tries to run his cabinet -- look what he's doing to powell over at the federal reserve. he's basically trying to run the federal reserve and everybody knows that it should not be interfered w. it doesn't matter. he thought the attorney general and even sessions should do what he was told to do. sessions had enough sense to recuse himself, but he got rid of him. >> you have been investigating
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deutsch bank with respect to the financial services committee in the house which you chair. any updates on documents production in that investigation? >> i don't have more information except to say my staff is involved in working with staff from the deutsch bank requesting documents and i must say, deutsch bank is being cooperative. we are going to continue to do our work to get the information that we need in order to make some determination about first of all, why did deutsch bank lend him so much money with no other bank in the country would lend him money. he even sued deutsch bank, but they did an unusual thing. we want to find out about that. there is a lot that we need to find out about his financial operations. >> representative maxine waters, thank you for being with us. >> you are so welcome and thank you. >> to make the mueller report
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>> as we await a possible subpoena from house democrats amid a growing crescendo, legally the report belongs in public view. it's a possible document that should be in the public domain. that's the case that buzzfeed is making. they filed a freedom of information act request for the document and got a run around and now in response they are suing. joining me now is the ninja of buzzfeed. he is legendary at shaking do you means out of places. >> the case by congress and jerry nadler is we are a coequal branch of government. you are making a different case. the public, us as citizens have a right to see it. >> they do have the right to see it. this was an investigation that
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took place over the course of two years. this was the center of many news reports. lots of debate, particularly about the end of the investigation. what we want the justice department to do is we want them to process this report in accordance with the freedom of information act. when they process it and go and redact information from it, we want them to explain to us and the public each and every redaction under the nine exemptions. why they are redacting certain information. we want to make a case why certain informs needs to be with held and we want to challenge that and challenge the information that they are withholding through litigation. what gets sent to congress and what will be made public will be essentially what bill barr and
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robert mueller decide. we want them to justify that. >> this gives essentially a legal recourse to challenge the redacti redactions, which is part of the rene for the approach. >> we're want to be as transparent as possible. this is going to be the first of many lawsuits that will file because there is a voluminous body of records that exist from the investigation. we want to find out what took place behind the scenes. with regard to the report, we are saying this report needs to be processed as quickly as possible. what happens is the government will respond to our freedom approach. we expect us to hand us the exact same report that they hand to congress. we then want them to go back and reprocess it and apply the exemptions under the freedom of information act and explain in legal documents.
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>> there is another story that has to do with a froef of documents you are involved in that has to do with michael cohen. >> my favorite person. >> your homey. michael cohen, i don't know what to make of this. there is a trove of new documents that have been discovered as he is about to go to jail. he has written a letter saying there is new interesting stuff and can you help us maybe lobby for less jail time? it seems stupendously sketchy even by the standards of michael cohen and trump world. what is going on? >> 14 million do you means makes my mouth water. i would love to see what those documents are. i think he referred to it as 14 million files. we reported last night that these files are in a hard drive that were returned to cohen
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after his office, his home, and his hotel were raided. it's unclear whether this is just something that he recently discovered, was unaware of what he had during the time he served as trump's personal attorney. obviously what he is saying is that it's not just these records and do you means, but there are images and there are recordings that has been a very important revelation that has come out. what kind ever recordings does he have? he seems to be dangling evidence that he claims would be hurting president trump in hopes to reduce his jail time. >> there is something. thank you very much. >> thank you, chris. appreciate it. >> coming up, while the democratic party is in a crucial moment debating race and gender and power, what's going on with
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fresh off the straight to camera video responding to several women saying he made inappropriate physical contact with them, he was speaking at a conference of the international brotherhood of electric workers. the audience of mostly male and mostly white union workers represents the voters he claims he can bring back to the democratic party. then this happened. >> i just want you to know, i
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had permission to hug lonnie. you guys can sit on the edge. i don't want you to have to stand. by the way, he gave me permission to touch him. >> after an event, biden said it was not his intention to make light of other people's discomfo discomfort. you sorry? >> i'm sorry i didn't understand. i'm not sorry for any of my exceptions. i'm not sorry for anything that i have ever done. i have never been disrespectful intentionally. >> that unwillingness to make an apology is part of the bet that he is making as he gears up for an all but assures presidential bid. that gives him an opening and at the same time the party is engaged over the debate with gender of race, class, and structures of power. barbara boxer served with biden
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and host of the boxer podcast and michelle goldberg's latest piece is entitled the wrong time for joe biden. he's not a sexual predator, but he's oust touch. what is your take as seen for the microcosm of what happened last week? >> on a lot of feminists and a lot of them, i have a lot of affection for him as a political figure, but this sort of both this history he has of overfamiliarity with women, let's say. his clumsiness in handling what was obviously going to be an issue is a sign more broadly of the way he is sort of out of touch with the progressive movement and much of his party is. it's a sign of the fact that if he does indeed decide to run for president, we will have to spend
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a lot of time apologizing for his last 30 years or much of the things he has done over the last 30 years. >> it seemed to me, i heard that a lot, but it seemed to me senator boxer that today was a pivot away from that. between the jokes and saying i don't apologize for my intentions. it's like look, this is who i am sort of move. >> that's right. you know, i really respect michelle, but i just don't agree with her. i think that the voters are going decide this issue. it's a much bigger issue than joe biden. it is about our interpersonal relationships and how we should conduct ourselves. come from the same school of politics as joe biden. we went into it because we care about people. it's a person to person connection that you make. i hugd people when they were struggling after an earthquake
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or flood or fire or gunshots. i was there and i was close. what have we learned from this? several women did not find joe endearing. that's fine. that's important. i think he gets it now. we are going find out. >> that's an interesting perspective. you are simple thympathetic to is saying. if people felt uncomfortable, i feel bad that, but the voters will decide. i think that's true and in some ways when you talk about the van gard, that's a good word. part of the bed of joe biden and your colleague that made this case, the world of the democratic voter is maybe not in the same place this year. >> i think there are a lot of people who either doenn't understand -- one woman said why are you saying such terrible
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things about joe biden. he kept repeating that phrase. they don't understand. for a lot of people it seems like feminist overkill or they are demanding a sterile form of politics and it seems cold and sad. i get that criticism. i just think if joe biden may be were a little bit more nimble in handling this, he would understand part of what people are objecting to is he keeps emphasizing his own good intentions instead of apologizing to women for making them feel uncomfortable and speaking to their experience. >> let's me do justice to the substance of the issue. i thought this from the former internal who said he made her uncomfortable. >> i appreciate it better in the future. it's not that he has adequate respect for personal space, but women have equal respect in the workplace. this is a function of patriarchy and puts women in a subordinate
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position. >> you are shaking your head in disagreement. >> here did t did the same thin. he is a warm affectionate individual. he learned that he can't continue this, but it's not just about women. i have seen him go to a male colleague whose son had cancer and hold that colleague in his arms. i'm telling you, do we want the mike pence response, which is he will never go to lunch with a woman a loan and have a woman in the office without keeping the door open? is that where we are headed? this is a moment for the country to decide this. why and yes, joe can do better than he did and he will. give him a chance. >> let me follow-up for the response. the other argument here is this is part of a broader issue. joe biden had a long career in public life and public service and a variety of positions throughout the years.
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maybe some of those and certainly some of them if you go back to bussing are out of synch with the 2019 party and there is fundamentally a mismatch between the man and the time. right? s in a microcosm of that. what do you think of that critique? >> let me say this. we all evolve. we don't stay the same. it would be bad if a politician who started out as i did, when i was a kid, pretty much a kid, i changed over the years. i changed my positions over the years. in some ways, to become more progressive. joe has done the same. are we going to punish people and only give people who just rolled out of bed and woke up in the democratic party and say i'm everything you want because i was born yesterday? >> that's an interesting line. >> i would say i feel like this discussion is being framed as do
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we throw joe biden or make him president? >> literally no one is asking that he be canceled. no one is saying that. >> if you are going lead the democratic party as currently constituted, this history of positions and the touching is only a small part of it. anita hill and the bankruptcy bill and the iraq war vote. to me it's do we want to relitigate all of these things and is he the right man for this moment. >> barbara boxer and michelle, excellent discussion. thank you both for doing it. the presidential candidate you probably know the least about it, but fund-raising qualified him for the first debates. andrew yang, coming up. trump tv's obsession with alexandria ocasio-cortez. with alexandria ocasio-cortez ck. (mom) it sure is. (mom vo) over the years, we trusted it to carry and protect the things that were most important to us.
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or. so there is a wild scandal unfolding in baltimore that has
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the city's mayor on the ropes. thanks to great investigative reporting, what's emerged is this. she has a self-published children's book that appears to have been used for a means to provide access and influence for the mayor and put money into her pocket. as far as we can tell, this book, the general pocket could never buy this book, but kaiser permanente and the medical system did. they paid hundreds of thousands for her books. both have connections with her or business before the city. since they first broke the story, the associated black charities purchased the book as well as a businessman. she apologized for the initial deal with the medical system, but not an isolated pace of the above board market transaction. the boston globe had a story
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about a guy who happened to buy the houses for almost twice the assessed price. and lo and behold, the deep buyer's kid gets into harvard on the fencing team. the buyer has told "the globe" it was an investment and favor for the coach who he said had become his close friend. so again a facially legitimate market transaction, just buying a home, one purchasing one legally from another, but with massive side benefits. wow, it sure is hard to think of places where that might apply to our current political leadership. if a mayor's self-published children's book or fencing coach's home can be a vector for what looks like bribery, think about the opportunities that abound for a president that owns all kinds of obscure businesses. some of this is happening out in the open. the foreign leaders dumping money into trump hotel in front
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when the dnc first announced their debate schedule they had to figure out how to draw a line for participation that would avoid some of the weirdness of the rnc's approach back in 2016 so they offered two ways to qualify. one being a polling criteria, they must register 1% or more in three polls between january 1, 2019, and 14 days prior to the date of the organization debate. the other through fund-raising where candidates may qualify by demonstrating the campaign has received donations from at least 65,000 unique donors and a minimum of 200 unique donors per state in at least 20 states. the idea, which i think is a good one, is that level of grassroots financial support shows a candidate even if they're not polling above 1% has
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a base. 11 candidates and two unofficial candidates have passed that threshold, including andrew yang, who is running on a campaign of universal basic income and other things and has become something of an online sensati sensation. and the aforementioned andrew yang joins me now. how are you? >> i'm doing great. thanks for having me, chris. >> the first question, of all people above 35 age or older, why should you be the president of the united states. >> america is in the greatest economic and technological transformation in the country. i helped create thousands of jobs. in my opinion the reason why donald trump is our president is we automated away 4 million manufacturing jobs in the swing states. so i'm running for president to let america know it is not immigrants causing these economic dislocations, it is technology. we need to evolve to the next form of our economy as fast as possible. >> that's a compelling theory of the case about what's happening, but it's not a compelling theory of what andrew yang should be
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making a million different judgment decisions at the highest level of stakes that include life or death, including military involvement, like you. you would be doing it. why you? >> well, i think what's animating a lot of our dysfunctional politics is that our economy is becoming increasingly punitive and inhuman for many, many americans around the country. the reason i should be appellate is i have a vision that actually helps provide a path forward for tens of millions of american families which i would suggest help make our foreign policy more sounding because we'd be making better decisions if people weren't operating from a sense of scarcity at all times. >> are you prepared to order people to die or to kill? >> well, one of the paramount responsibilities. commander in chief is to keep the american people safe. while raining death on other people is not my first choice, if that's what it would take to keep the american people safe, i'm 100% ready to do just that. >> one of the things you've been sort of pushing is this idea of
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a universal basic income. it's an idea that's gained a lot of currency and is central to one of your platform or your vision of how to adapt to what you say is this kind of talksox tech launological -- >> what is it? >> yeah, how would it work? >> martin luther king championed it and called it the guaranteed minimum income. it's the policy where every citizen in america gets a certain amount of money to meet our basic needs, no questions asked. so my plan would put $1,000 a month in the hands of every american adult starting at age 18. this would make children and families stronger, improve our health, nutrition, graduation rates and help millions of americans make transitions in this time of historic change. >> that would be $33 billion a month? >> the price tag is a bit less than that. in part because we're spending hundreds of billions of dollars on many, many programs that in
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part substitute out the costs. but the big change we have to make to afford this freedom dividend is who's going to win, amazon, google, facebook, uber, the biggest tech companies. we have to put the american people in a position to benefit from those innovations. >> i've met you before, we went to the same university. you seem like a successful individual, you're 44 years old. what made you think i'm going to run for president of the united states? you never served in public office, correct? >> well, i was an honorary ambassador of entrepreneurship in the obama administration and started a national nonprofit that raised millions of dollars to help create jobs in regions around the country. the reason i'm running for president is that america does not understand what's happening to us. we're in the third inning of the fourth industrial revolution. this industrial revolution is going to up-end many of our traditional economic understandings. i'm running for president to help galvanize energy around real solutions. >> we just ran a huge experiment. never in the history of the
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republic have we had someone in the highest office without military experience or public service experiment. why roll the dice on that again? >> donald trump would not be our president today if people thought that our government had been operating at the highest possible levels over the last number of years. now, donald trump is a terrible president because he's a terrible president. but donald trump is not necessarily representative of every entrepreneur or people with different sets of experiences around the country. >> final question. you have a lot of following online. there's some part of that are people with really gnarly views. you have attracted some white nationalists and other people in the darker parts that have cottoned on to you. what do you think about people with white supremacist avatars supporting you? >> i've disavoid that kind of support. i do not want support from people who's views are antithetical from what i hold.
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i'm trying to solve the problems of the american people and those problems are gathering strength. we have to think much, much bigger about how to build an economy that trickles up. >> andrew yang, thanks for making the time. that is "all in" for this evening. ali velshi is in for rachel. good evening, ali. >> have yourself an excellent weekend. >> you too. thanks for joining us at this hour. rachel is off tonight but she will be back monday. it's friday night, which these days means we should be bracing for just about anything to happen at any moment. friday seems to be the day when everything happens all at once, so we are ready for anything. but in the meantime, consider the week we have just had. consider the week the president has just had. we are used to the news cycle moving fast now. how quickly one narrative can be replaced by other. but it was just one week ago that donald trump was in the midst of probably the best news cycle of his candidacy.


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