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>> it was quite a speech. thank you so much. enjoy your weekend up ahead. on this sunday, as early as tomorrow we could finally get the release of the mueller report. redactions might leave much of it dark black ink and lead to all-out battle in the courts for a full version and story released. president trump declares the absolute legal authority to move my grants into sanctuary cities. now we'll see if he carries through on that threat. fighting back, ilhan omar and democrats on the offense against president trump attack against the freshman congresswoman. a scene from what though thought they'd never see again, tiger woods wins the masters. a first in more than one decade. more on that magical moment straight ahead. the next 24 to 48 hours, the world might get finally a look at a redacted version of the
nearly 400-page mueller report. new today for you, abc news reporting this. that the white house has been brie mueller report and that there is significant concern on the president's team about what will be in this report. and as well, what worries them most is what don mcgahn told the special counsel. mcgahn resigned as white house counsel in october of last year, as you might remember. he was the first senior white house to learn of mike flynn's fbi interview and told the president that flynn had misled both the fbi and vice president about his interactions with the russian ambassador. despite this latest reporting of abc news, the white house is holding its ground. >> mueller was crystal clear in the fact that there was no collusion, not just -- >> he wasn't crystal clear on obstruction. >> any american, they couldened find anything. they couldn't make a
determination. which is basically mueller's way legally of we can't find anything and leave that up to the process which is the attorney general. he has made a decision. and so, we consider it to be case closed. there was no collusion. there was no obstruction. i don't know how you interpretd that any other way than total exoneration. >> regardless of big questions are what will be in the report and how much will we actually get to see? let's go to former u.s. attorney for the intern district of michigan, political security reporter, former assistant deputy of state and msnbc legal contributor let's start off with our reporter natasha. natasha, this coming out around 10:00 a.m. of abc news. what is your reflection own what they are reporting about the white house being briefed on the mueller report and what that might mean? >> well, it makes a lot of sense
given the kind of 180 the president has taken in the last week or so on the release of the mueller report. at first he was saying let the public see it. there's no reason we wouldn't want it to be out there and the attorney general will decide what is released publicly and then since then he's now said why should the public get to see the mueller report? it's been a complete and total turnaround from what he was saying previously and obvi more damaging than perhaps barr's four-page memo made it seem. i imagine they'll go into the details of the alleged on obstruction of justice and a lot of evidence and more details about the, you know, conspiracy and collusion that did occur between members of trump's campaign and the russian government and officials just because, again, there was no crime doesn't mean there's no
evidence that things like that did occur. so you know, this puts everything of the last kind of week into perspective with the trump team looking that the. >> build on that, barbara, because as we look at this information coming out from abc news, the question is, does this follow protocol? surprises here? if the reporting is right on, what's worrying them is don mcgahn and told the special counsel in addition to that. >> we don't know what it is he said and one thing that's important to keep in mind this is not a traditional criminal prosecution. the letter said he did not make a decision on obstruction of justice and there could be a number of reasons for that. one of which is that he viewed a decision of whether president trump committed obstruction of justice is a question of congress. not a chargeable offense the way it would be for an ordinary citizen and so because of that the normal rules of play of the department of justice which is that you don't share disparaging
details with the public unless you charge someone would not apply here. the public and congress are entitled to know those things to be a check on presidential misconduct. >> barbara alluding to mueller was not asked to look into obstruction. that was not his charge and that's part of the conversation here. katie, then the question is, what we'll get is redacted and might have information regarding that. >> can include classified information, grand jury investigation, pending open investigation information. there's room there for the redactions and what's important is what's not redacted and what information can we glean? and barbara's point is really well taken. i want people to understand, there's a different standard of proof in a criminal prosecution for a crime of obstruction of justice. it is beyond and to the exclusion of every reasonable doubt and for impeachment each
senator has to depend upon his or her own moral compass to determine whether or not there was the commission of a high crime and misdemeanor for impeachment and lastly there's been time spent by the trump legal team repairing a counter report and not only a mueller report but a counter report according to giuliani 140 pages and trying to whittle it down. >> they've been churning in the background and working quite diligently on this counter report. >> they apparently wrote it six months before mueller found and ruuliani as we just saw sarah sanders continuing to be sarah sanders. the barr letter, the cliff notes version of the mueller report, was about as good as it was going do get for donald trump and the white house. any word from here on out we see for ourselves is a problem for them. now, obviously you redact things
for reasons of secrecy, sensitivity. i had top secret security clearance. i understand that. that's not a reason not to share it with congress. pelosi, schumer or the chairs warner and schiff. but we need to see what mueller came up with. i'll give you a hint of what is in there. we already know what mueller has written is everything we saw with our own eyes and on top of that, he's got 70 hours of testimony from don mcgahn and god knows who else. we know don mcgahn presented himself as someone trying to keep donald trump from walking outside the lines. but has failed. what donald trump is going to face the moment that this report comes out is the court of common sense and he's going to be found guilty. >> natasha, when we think of what don mcgahn might have told the special counsel here, what are the big concerns here both
politically as well as legally that might be involved in that? >> well, this is i think what's most interesting about this abc report because it kind of casts into doubt bill barr's determination that the president did not obstruction justice because what don mcgahn would have been most useful for were the conversations that surrounded the episodes that were under investigation by mueller for obstruction so michael flynn, for example, asking the director to let michael flynn go, firing jim comey in may of 2017. i mean, these are events that don mcbeggahn witnesses and if they're concerned of reading the version of events and reading the details surrounding, you know, those episodes that perhaps mcgahn gave to the prosecutors then that raises questions to me about how much confidence they have in bill barr's conclusion itself.
>> barbara, so now that the white house reportedly again has been briefed, what might be the counter here? might we see the white house put into the works start thinking about executive privilege and other moves? >> it is unclear. one of the things that william barr said in his letter to congress was that the president has publicly said he will defer to me the attorney general regarding executive privilege. it wasn't clear what he meant by that. did he mean on the one hand he is waving executive privilege or mean that he was deferring to the attorney general to invoke expect i privilege in if the latter, it is really unusual. the attorney general, of course, serves as the lawyer for the people and it appears that women ba -- william barr saying he would be the attorney for the president and if president trump tries to invoke privilege at this stage there would be some argument it's been waved. >> go to the words and what he
is intimating her, katie. the report says he is exonerated and saying the democrats don't need to see the report and if the president is exonerated then why not show the report. in full. >> mueller prepared from what we understand summaries. it is a long report. barr made the conscious decision not to use them and i think that's exceptionally telling because if barr was going to be the person that's the gatekeeper to kind of filter out the otherwise nonobjectionable evidence why not use the summaries themselves? that is a huge i think indicator that there's something wrong and you are right. it is almost counter intuitive and takes trumpian logic to see there's something to be reading because it completely exonerates and vindicate it is president of the united states. why not put it on the front page of newspaper? and it's because there's something damaging inside of it. >> depending on the redactions,
where do you piut it on the richter scale? >> i think a 1 to 10, possibly 11. here's why. because it's one thing when you pick at scabs and don't let them heal or rip out the stitches. the republicans and donald trump and white house made such a stink two weeks ago about nothing to see her, let's move on, that they will have a real problem with two words that bill barr, conway, sanders and especially donald trump don't get to say to america and that's trust me. so once we see what's in there they're going to have a problem and frankly the democrats are going to have a tough decision to make because we keep going back and forth about to impeach or not to impeach and barbara made an important point that something can be a crime in the sense of high crime and misdemeanor but not necessarily a criminal act. and that's the decision that's going to have to be made once everyone absorbs this thing. >> from earthquakes to stitches
in the first segment, thank you so much. you'll have a good rest of your weekend. coming up, the president's threat to release undocumented migrants in sanctuary cities. plus, the war of words escalates of president trump and congresswoman omar. how she's responding to the president. just a short time ago, house speaker nancy pelosi weighed in, as well. let's be honest.
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welcome back. immigration debate is becoming serious political fodder for president trump. the president taking to his favorite social media medium overnight for his plan for migrants in sanctuary cities and tweeted unless democrats change the law sanctuary cities must act to take care of the illegal immigrants. trump's beefed up rhetoric on immigration comes as the number of apprehensions that hit a southern border, immigration courts are now reporting a backlog of roughly 800,000 cases each taking around two years almost to process. this morning the information doubled down on the president's comments. >> we have to look at all options across the table so that the towns right there on the border aren't taking on the entire burden and that we're shifting some of that burden to places who constantly claim to want to have open borders and
want to have an open city. >> meanwhile, criticism over congresswoman ilhan omar is getting more heated. house speaker nancy pelosi released a statement just hours ago saying, quote, following the president's tweet, i spoke with the sergeant at arms to ensure that capitol police are conducting a security assessment to safeguard congresswoman omar, her family and her staff. let's bring in the panel. contributor, reporter peter nicklas and op-ed or the bobby goesh. victoria, this is one of the concerns and i'll go to a "the new york times" headline reading sometimes -- someone is always trying to kill you and in it says in 2017 41% of women and girls in honduras showed signs of mutilation, disfigurement and cruelty beyond what was needed to kill them. this is part of the discussion
of why many of the familys that are trying to come to the united states and claim asylum what they're facing. >> so, when we're talking ab immigration, you have to look at the push and pull factors and not just what's happening at the boa border. it has to be something really powerful. and it is, in fact, that. we know that el salvador, honduras and nicaragua have some of the highest murder rates in the world. they choose between the lesser of two evils. do i stay and risk my life or go to united states and claim asylum and the law of the land to legally claim asylum and it would go through due process and i think very important for us to understand what's going on there. and that's why when we talk about solutions to immigration it's not a wall. it's about how do we deal with the push factors?
the idea of a marshal plan is floated around, similar to that of world war ii era in central america. all that money to put at the wall, you know, trump wants to put $25 billion, let's do that in terms of aid to gland? >> we heard the back and forth in the last week, also, the concern of what was happening at the department of homeland security and what the president may have said to the abouting director there. what is the solution going forward that might work for both sides here? >> well, it's not clear because the white house position isn't clear. it is very ambiguous. there is proposal that emerged that the white house was thinking about taking detained immigrants and putting them in sanctuary cities. nancy pelosi's district. the white house put out a message that that was just an idea that was kicked around and
was dead and then the president revived it through twitter and caught his own white house and administration short in doing that. so their position is really vague at this point. we know the president's irritated, frustrated, cleaning house at homeland security and haven't seen a solution that the administration has gotten behind. >> one of the ideas brought up here, victoria, is especially looking at the 700 days to process a case, 2 years basically here, the idea of what will happen to the judges working on this, more of them, fewer of them or move them closer to the border? >> richard, that is the single biggest issue. like, yes, we need comprehensive immigration reform and democrats and republicans get together and hash it out but for a short-term impact, not taking congress to get together and come to a compromise, it's just funding a whole lot more judges to come here so if we can get judges to
come down here to the border, process people in a matter of weeks or even months as opposed to years that is going to go a long ways towards this issue of the over capacity of the ports of entry, the over capacity of undocumented entries in between, over capacity of shelters. let's get more judges. >> peter? >> well, the question about judges is a strange one, too, in the sense that the president said we should fire judges but what exactly is he talking about? to some degree that's part of the solution. right? adjudicated these cases. how is firing judges going to get us there? again, what we have seen is a president acting from his gut, acting instinctively and not seen a policy. >> i want to switch subjectins here. bobby, ilhan omar getting a lot of discussion throughout weeks and now we're seeing this heat
up because the president as well as others on the right, not all, but others on the right being critical of what ilhan omar has said in the pistons here and now there's a concern as i was just reporting of her well-being as others of the same faith. >> well, yes. and from the distance of london and europe, it all seems like part of a pattern of islamphobic rhetoric coming from the president and from people very close to him. it is not something that makes page one news in this part of the world but that's mainly because people have taken it now for granted that this united stn the politics of the united states is of the daily discussion that the president's ability to shock and surprise people around the world with his bizarre and offensive behavior is now long gone. people are not surprised that it's shrugged off as, well,
that's trump being trump, america as it is today which is distressing for many people in muslim countries, they regarded america as a place where muslims could integrate, could rise. the fact that ilhan omar and a couple of others muslims have risen to congress itself gives muslims everywhere a positive image of america but the response to them by the american if you like the american right and coming right from the president himself sort of undermines the achievements of muslims in america. >> when we look at the words used and expressions so far here, bobby, from the president, we have his tweet there of a graphic image of 9/11 putting that together with ilhan omar on the other side critics say the use of language from the representative could be chosen better, as well. nooelter really justify the
response necessarily. >> no. i don't think people sort of who heard the whole of the speech would disagree with that. i think the choice of words could have been better but the response is completely out of proportion. it's an excruciating bad taste to tweet out images of particularly coming from a new yorker, the president is a new yorker, claims to be a prouder new yorker. for a new yorker to be using those images that have so t traumatic for so many new yorkers and a political point is egregious. >> thank you. >> good to be with you. >> thank you. coming up, mayor pete as he is called is in. pete buttigieg made his 2020 campaign official just about an hour ago in south bend, indiana. and then there is this. tiger. makes a remarkable comeback.
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indiana, and i am running for president of the united states. >> well, as has been said, he was exploring his options. now pete buttigieg, the mayor of south bend, indiana, he is in. the harvard graduate, afghanistan war vet, first openly gay candidate to seek the democratic nomination. the mayor ranks third in the latest iowa poll at 9%. only behind biden, senator sanders. nbc news road warrior josh letterman is in south bend. first of all, can he handle a big crowd? seems like he checked that box. also his point of view. there in south bend as you know so well, one of the if you will hometowns of the original tea party movement and that says a lot about what that event was like, too. >> reporter: that's right. we are in deep red territory as far as national politics are concerned. flyover country as they
sometimes refer to it because it doesn't often get as much attention. not an easy place for a democrat to compete and that's one of the things that buttigieg thinks is an advantage for him, he's shown that he can compete heroining re-election by about 80% after coming out of the closet. the crowd here, you know, they stood here with the rein coming down through the ceiling on to them for hours. 4,500 people here today they didn't seem to mind too much pretty revved up. interested in what he had to say, perhaps never more revved up than when he left the stage holding hands with his husband, a pretty historic moment. buttigieg making clear today in south bend he plans to focus on three things in the campaign, democracy, security and freedom. themes that he says have been seated for too long by democrats to conservatives but ground he thinks he and democrats actually can compete on. so we talked to voters here today saying that despite the fact that he is 37, never held
statewide office, doesn't have a long resume on the political stage, they think he is refreshing, he does have the qualifications and looking to see how now that he is an official candidate polling well to turn that into a nationwide campaign and compete with all of these candidates who are in this crowded field for president. >> yeah. josh, how the electorate changed just there from ten years ago. of course, that is ages in political years. josh ledderman there with pete buttigieg running for president now officially. thank you. don't call it a comeback. tiger woods just won the 83rd masters golf tournament, augusta, georgia. the fifth green jacket he captured and the first in more than one decade. remarkable win comes just after two years after woods said he was done with golf. joining me is jason page, host of "the intersection" on i-hub radio. okay. so how many exclamations can we use in 90 seconds here about
what tiger woods has been able to do here? because as we know, he's lived a storied career in the public. >> richard, there may not have been anything to top pete buttigieg announcing the run for the presidency today and tiger woods did that with probably -- >> is tiger running for president, too, now? >> i tell you what, if he did he would probably get lot of votes now. donald trump was tweeting about it. it was amazing today. not only winning this major 14 years after last winning a green jacket but more amazingly than that, it's the first time in his 15 mayors he's actually come from behind on the final day of the tournament to win that major. this is a guy that was buried by just about everybody in the media. myself excluded from that. because i always thought this guy still had the game to be one of the top golfers in the world. it was never a question of whether tiger woods was good enough to still win but whether or not to be healthy enough to win. this is a guy that basically
retooled his whole swing, three spinal fusion surgeries, three. he retooled his swing to kind of fit his new back and the new body. and his new physical abilities and there he was today at age 43 winning the masters in amazing fashion. >> normally when they hit these peaks, again, at this stage of their career, there's often a discussion that you may have already had could this be it? >> could this -- no. absolutely not. no. no, no, no. look. he has 15. trying to catch jack nicolaus with the all-time major mark at 18 and very feasible for tiger woods to do it. the biggest problem isn't necessarily the physical abilities or being good enough to win but the biggest strug sl the field of golfers around him is just so good. look at how difficult it was for him to get this major. there are a lot of great golfers out there. he beat some of them today that's not going to happen every
time. only four majors every year and at 43 who's to say he couldn't win three more or four more and top jack nicklaus. >> nothing seemed to stop him desite setbacks in the years. thank you for stopping by for this amazing development today in the world of sports. coming up, the world reacts to the arrest of wikileaks founder julian assange. president trump says he knows nothing about wikileaks. but then there's the evidence.
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all right. time now for the weekly segment we said they said. this week we're going to take a look at the immediate i don't overseas covering wikileaks founder julian assange. i hesitate to compare julian assange to a bucket of spit because it would be insulting to the bucket of spit. the point is i support him 100%. i don't like him. he doesn't look like us. he's not what you would call a card carrying journalist. >> it begins the argument essentially whether julian assange is a crusader for truth with the courage to report what the government was doing which he thought was wrong or is he a careless manipulator? >> the government is trying to pursue julian assange without a
precedent we could all get arrested if we report on something that the u.s. government doesn't like. >> the news outlets focussing on the alleged crimes and then the potential consequences. >> there are accusations from the ecuadorian government he was leaking information about the president and it's an understatement to say that the relationship between assange and ecuador had grown tense. >> there should be no extradition to the country with the death penalty as it is the case of the u.s. >> so far this arrest has got nothing to do with press freedom, nothing to do with whether assange is published. he is indicted for conspiracy to conduct computer intrusion. >> the independence saying assange taught people about the tarnished freedom. now we are all he has left to defend him. the irish times said assange's
arrest opens a new chapter in the struggle with the united states adding assange now faces an extradition battle and a possible criminal trial that will reignite the debate about the legal boundaries of journalism and the freedom of the press. well, president trump's reaction to the assange arrest is this. >> do you still love wikileaks? >> i know nothing about wikileaks. it is not my thing. and i know there is something having to do with julian assange. >> well, that's a same donald trump who used to know a lot about wikileaks. we'll just go back to 2016. >> wikileaks. i love wikileaks. this wikileaks stuff is unbelievable. it tells you the inner heart. you got to read it. it's been amazing what's coming out on wikileaks. we love wikileaks. boy, they have really -- wikileaks. this wikileaks is unbelievable. what we have learned and her and her people.
did you see another one? another one came in today. this wikileaks is like a treasure trove. >> so the president made another false statement we'll say just this week. "the washington post" fact checkers reporting president trump made 9,451 false claims or misleading statements to date. adding that more than half of those false claims happened just in the last 200 days. up next, dangerous comedy. u.s. comedians poke fun at the president with no real consequences but in some countries for a good laugh. larry charles traveled to some of the world's dangerous spots to find some of the globe's com. he joins us next. kraft. for the win win.
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stakes for comedians much higher in other parts of the world. "the new york times" profiled i documentary, the director exores happy. >> what does comedy bring to or'll be it didn't have? cousin fighting for the country, you need comedy. if you don't smile, it's horrible. i have friends in baghdad. the family members are dead and keep smiling. >> right. >> because isis' plan to make you sad, make you feel bad about yourself and being muslim, about being christian. that was the whole isis mentality. if you are happy and you don't care and they're right there, that's -- i believe that was our war against isis in a way. >> larry charles is joining us from los angeles. as well as by skype from caracas, venezuela, gabo rius, a
comedian profiled. i want to start with you. >> hello. how are you? >> good day to you, my friend. how serious a threats do you receive when you are out, after you've finished a show? >> i didn't receive like any threats but i am a little bit scared now because i realize we the people that made the show realize that it's like an act of revelry. right? we didn't think it of that. we just wanted to work. and suddenly everybody's talking about it and i am a little bit scared because the government starts paying attention to you and soon people talk about you. >> gabo, why do you -- despite the criticism of the government and as you know there in venezuela president maduro cracking down on comics there. why do you still do it? you said it's a way of rebelling
but aren't you concerned of undertaking a craft that you could face more than just threats? >> i mean, you know, it's just jokes. and when you write jokes you want people to laugh. that's the end of the joke. you want a joke to work. and that's why i think we don't get, like, a sense of what we are doing because we are doing jokes and when someone takes a joke and use it for other thing that it is laughing, that use it like to be offended or other things and use it as an opinion, like maduro to take a joke and use it like you say that, that's your opinion, now you are going to jail, that's the thing that is scaring me the most that it is not how. it is when. when the government is going to pay attention to one of my joke and make me pay for it. you know? >> gago ruiz, thank you.
i want to move over to larry charles. larry, i mean, you've been in this business for a long time. you're a writer, producer for nbc "seinfeld." you have been around the block a couple times when it comes to comedy. and you understand that it is greater than jokes in many cases, right in this is about discussing truthses and understanding truths and ways that help people understand basically these ideas that they wouldn't otherwise. as you visited the places iraq, somalia, is that what comedy and political comedy, comedy means to them, too? >> in these societies you must remember the people can't trust the governments anymore. all information channels have been shut down. the media can no longer be trusted if it even exists. the tv's often run by the state, as well. censorship is a part of the reality and comedians are the
last truth tellers. comedians are the last people that the people in these countries can turn to to get an honest accounting of what's going on and to laugh at the absurdity of the situation at the same time. >> so, larry, here right, the daily show which started, if you will, that idea of politics and truth and comedy coming together in these particular countries that we're talking about, is it the same case times 20? >> well, what you have in america, remember, is a capitalist society. the punishment for going against sera comedians who are going against trump being hauled off the stage and taken to jail but you have that situation in most of the other countries i visited. people are hauled off to jail. they disappear. they are sometimes murdered. often tortured. family members are killed.
this is the price you pay for comedy in other countries. in this country you might pay with a career hit, but you won't pay with your life and that's the difference in the stakes between cam ma dee aomedy and t the world and the quite. >> i want to play a bit from your piece, a conversation with a comedian in somalia and i'll get your reflection. >> so you've been kidnapped and you've been arrested, yet you can smile about that. ultimately, you can look back and they were funny, funny inciden incidents. [speaking foreign language]. >> that's a sign of being famous is getting locked up and kidnapped. >> so larry, as you've interviewed comedians, what's the quality that drives them to do this despite the consequences? >> well, it's very inspiring because they have a calling. it's almost like they have seen the light and they must spread
the word. they feel they have a unique opportunity and a unique obligation and a unique honor and duty to tell the truth about what is going on around them to make their societies better, to give the people something to cling on to, some hope. >> yeah. >> and at the same time, to be honest about what is going on with the corruption and breakdown of these societies that they are living in. >> are they unaware of some of the consequences? are they in a bubble in someway, would you say? if you're critical or worried about them, that's what you might say, right? >> i think we're in the bubble, actually. they are acutely aware. they have friends and family members who have been killed and like i said, they them shelves have been jailed and tortured. they are acutely aware of the consequence and they are willing to face it and be barters for the cause, which is very inspiring and very different than the western approach to comedy. >> what's the commonality you see in their humor across the
interviews that you've had in the way they approach it, in the systems, the way they write it? >> i think that each country has reference points but what makes a comedian successful in any society is the way they connect with the audience and the honesty they bring to their discourse and all these comedians are painfully honest about what is going on in their societies and people appreciate that. >> what you did as you were going through here for larry charles dangerous world of co a come comedy. you interviewed comedians and individuals including a war lord in liberia and his nickname, this is not a joke but he's called quote buck naked and described what it's like for each human flesh and at that point you're worried you have, well, bitten off more than you can chew. let's play a little bit of that. we don't have that but what is your reaction to that?
>> i was very interested in talking to people who we don't normally ascribe a sense of humor to about what made them laugh, how they got to this place. i think talking to terrorist, war lords and murders was insightful about the world of laughter and what makes us laugh and tick and i wanted to go back to the beginning with these people and be able to talk to them and take them through their life and see where humor played a role or where it didn't play a role and how it influenced their future actions. >> i want to play a little bit here from where a burn victim is reacting to something you said. let's play that. >> one of my favorites was four year as ago, they remade "nightmare on elm street." i wanted until the lights came on at the end. sweet dreams, everybody. i use that humor. i joke about with physical
therapy, occupational therapy. >> a comedian that the really turned a very difficult situation, very extreme difficult situation into a way to understand it as well as to laugh. >> yes, i mean, he is connecting with the audience despite his injuries, despite his despair, the things that he had to go through to get to a place where he could even conceive of going on stage and being faced, he wants to bring that same sort of healing quality to the audience and it works. the audience really responds. he's a veteran injured in the iraq war. he's an incredibly heroic individual and super funny. >> larry charles, thank you for stopping by here humor used in places not in the united states or issues that we're used to here in the west. thank you. you can watch larry charles dangerous world of comedy on netflix. >> thank you. taking on politics, chelsea
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