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opponents in the democratic field be able to keep up and unleash their own proposals to match pace? >> all right. well now two out of three of those i didn't see, which says a lot about me. but i'll work on it. that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. >> thanks so much, mika. i'm stephanie ruhle with a lot to cover this morning, starting with a tragedy in a house of worship, a gunman opens fire at a california synagogue, killing one and injuring three on the final day of passover. the synagogue's rabbi remembering the victim as the example of kindness to the fullest extent after she heroically jumped in front of gunfire. >> and then her daughter hannah comes out screaming, daddy and mommy, let's go. this is the most heart wrenching sight i could have seen but i do know that this is lori, this is her legacy, and her legacy will continue. >> negotiating terms, attorney
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general bill barr threatens not to appear before the house judiciary committee unless the rules of questioning are changed. chairman nadler says either show up willingly or we're going to make you. >> he's not going to dictate the format of the judiciary committee. we'll use all legal mechanisms to get them to comply with the subpoenas and they will comply. and 2020 vision, vice president biden scores a major endorsement as beto o'rourke unveils a new sweeping plan to combat climate change. minutes from now i'll be speaking to the first democrat to throw his hat in the ring about the state of the race and how it has shifted in the last month and if he thinks he's being left behind. john delaney will be with me in a few but we must begin with new details in the horrific attack on that california synagogue over the weekend. the funeral for 60-year-old lori gilbert kaye will take place this afternoon, this morning being remembered as a hero. she was killed at a shooting at
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a synagogue on saturday when a gunman opened fire as worshippers were celebrating the last day of passover. witnesses say she stepped in front of bullets aimed at the rabbi who was one of the three people injured. >> i walked into the lobby and i see lori laying on the floor unconscious and her dear husband, dr. howard kaye who's like a brother to me, is trying to resuscitate her and he faints and he's laying there on the floor next to his wife and then their daughter hannah comes out screaming, daddy and mommy, that's going on? it's the most heart wrenching sight i could have seen. i was frozen in time. >> let's go to california with nbc steve patterson. how is the community coping
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there? the rabbi has been extraordinary the last day or so. what's it like there today? >> stephanie, you can get a broad sense of the strength of this community just by listening to the booming voice of reason of that rabbi. we've seen an incredible show of solidarity, offi togetherness, strength, this community not resolved to shy away from this, not resolved to live in fear. but make no mistake it was pure terror in this that synagogue just a few days ago for the last day of passover, a very holy day, obviously, for the jewish faith. the rabbi was preparing for saturday morning services that would have lasted all day. it was about 11:30 in the morning. she sees his best friend of nearly 30 years, lori kaye walks past her, goes to rinse his hands, hears the horrific booming noises, looks up and he is face to face with that gunman, takes fire, is wounded in the hand, bleeding profusely, sees his friend on the ground
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bleeding profusely, pleading profusely with his 4-year-old granddaughter telling her to get out, get out, he hears the screams of terror, people are crawling for the exits, there's about 100 worshippers inside, you can hear screams, you can hear cries. but just as quickly as this horror sort of starts it ends because several eyewitnesses tell us that at some point the shooter's gun jams during the all the chaos. we start to hear these incredible stories of bravery and frankly heroism. there's the iraq war veteran who gets in the shooter's face, uses his training to push him into the parking lot. there's an off duty border patrol agent who fires four rounds at the shooter's vehicle, pushes him further off the property. while the shooting is happening inside, there's a 34-year-old who has the wherewithal to see children crying and screaming on the ground to get them and move them outside to safety. one of the times he's doing this he's carrying a child out, gets
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shot in the leg, gets her to safety, moves back in to save even more children. one of those children is 8-year-old noya dehan, if you want to know something about the strength of this community, you have to listen to her speak. i sat down with her yesterday afternoon. she sees obviously all of this, all of this horror and here's how she's able to eloquently put this yesterday when i spoke to her. listen to this. >> i was scared. it felt like the movies, like you have to hide to you won't get shot. i'm still worried. i still picture things in my head and i still picture the sounds and the noise and stuff. and it's just scary. but i don't really feel safe here. >> reporter: so young and dealing with so much. the funeral services for lori kaye begin this evening. she's obviously a pillar of this community, a pioneering member of that synagogue when it was little more than a parking lot and an idea in the rabbi's mind.
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obviously the rabbi is saying that those three bullets that she took were likely meant for other members so her last act on this planet was saving other people's lives as she stepped in front of that shooter, stephanie. >> dwigquite a story. steve, thank you so much. we have to turn to d.c. where there is a dramatic new showdown to tell you about this morning, attorney general william barr is now threatening to skip a house judiciary committee hearing. nbc's jeff bennett joins me live with more. what is it about and why is he threatening to not show? >> way want to question his credibility, the tone and substance of that mueller report in the preliminary press conference he gave, if he prejudged theout come. barr is objecting to the format. nadler wants to give five-minute rounds of questioning to all the lawmakers, no problem there. the sticking point is nadler wants the committee lawyers from
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the democrat and republican side to also be able to question barr. this is the dirty secret of capitol hill here it's the committee staffers and committee lawyers who so often do the heavy lifting and the hard thinking about these sorts of things. so in this format the lawyers will be able to ask any questions that the lawmakers themselves might have missed entirely. so barr is saying, no, congress asked me to appear, i will only take questions from members of congress. nadler has also asked for the committee to go into private session to talk about the redacted portions of the mueller report, barr is also objecting to that. >> nadler says you better do this or else. or else what? what are the consequences? >> or else he's going to issue a subpoena. we know what the trump administration does with these subpoenas. >> yeah. >> the other reason why it seems to appear that barr holds the cards here is because he's already testifying on wednesday before the senate judiciary committee and that's a much friendlier venue for him given that lindsey graham, president
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trump's friend and ally as we know, chairs that committee. he's set to appear on wednesday before the senate, thursday before the house and so democrats have to figure out what they're going to do, if they're going to put some teeth behind the subpoena if, in fact, they have to issue it to him. >> currently his friend and ally. jeff bennett, thank you so much. we've got to take you to chicago where the ceo of boeing is set to hold a news conference after a shareholder's meeting at the top of the hour. this comes as new questions this morning about the company's handling of the 737 max jets which of course were grounded worldwide last month after two fatal crashes. nbc's tom costello covers aviation. he joins us live from chicago. tom, first, the latest revelation now involves southwest airlines. what is it? >> reporter: yeah, good morning from a city with a driving rainstorm and dark clouds this morning that will be greeting ceo dennis mullenberg. southwest was not told by boeing that the angle of attack
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disagree light wasn't activated on the brand new 737 max. what that feature is, is telling the pilots that one of your two angle of attack sensors doesn't agree with the other one. that could activate the software system that's believed to have put the nose of the plane into a nose dive both in ethiopia and also in indonesia. that's an issue. the other issue facing the shareholders and ceo mullenberg today is why did boeing not tell their own pilots, the pilots who fly the plane with various airlines, tell them about the anti-stall system that was in the plane? he still has not answered that question on the record. this will be the first opportunity for news media to ask those questions and then in addition you'll be hearing from shareholders who are upset about the fact that this plane has now not been flying since mid-march because it's been grounded. they had to take a billion dollar hit in the first quarter. the projection is, this plane
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probably won't be flying again until well into the summer travel season. so this is a financial impact on boeing, on the airlines that fly it and the concern is they may have lost significant public confidence in this plane when it does fly again you may get some passengers saying i'm not going to fly on the 737 max regardless of how the faa certifies it as being safe. so an awful lot is on the table for what really is the most serious and critical safety issue, that boeing has faced in decades and certainly one of the biggest public confidence problems they have faced in decades. stephanie, back to you. >> a billion dollar hit. we could end up seeing that pass onto the consumer. nbc's tom costello, thank you, we're going to check in again after that news conference. now to politics, a big announcement just moments ago from 2020 democratic candidate beto o'rourke. we're live to modesto, california, garrett haake, what is this big plan?
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>> reporter: this is beto o'rourke's first major policy rollout coming on the issue that he says is his north star on this campaign, climate change. his campaign has been dig dinged for not being specific about policy. they're rolling out a four pillar plan for addressing the climate crisis in this country, including executive actions, getting back into the paris climate accords on day one, increasing efficiency standards from buildings and cars to appliances, things o'rourke could do as president on his own, and legislation, expensive legislation, a $5 trillion plan, $1.5 trillion by rolling back corporate tax cuts, things to spur innovation, fund research, really address this climate crisis from square one, from step zero, if you will. there's long-term planning in here. the goal is to get the united states to a net zero emission country by 2050. they want to put a goal post at
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2030, say we need to be halfway there. that's in line with the green new deal and then there are disaster mitigation elements of, helping communities before they get hit by severe weather and afterwards making sure, for example, things like hurricane harvey and the levies and reservoirs so screwed up in houston aren't rebuilt to the same level but rebuilt stronger on the back end. o'rourke will be here in the central valley of california, a place that's on the bleeding edge of the climate crisis where they're already feeling this, talking about this later today, he'll be touring in yosemite national park today with a climate scientist talking about this further. they hope to build around this as a starting point for showing what kind of serious policy from o'rourke can look like. stephanie? >> thank you. msnbc's garrett haake. we've got a lot of news to get to today. coming up, democratic leaders nancy pelosi and chuck schumer scheduled to meet with the president on how to fix the nation's crumbling infrastructure. what's interesting, it turns out all of them seem to agree with the best way to get it done. here's the challenge.
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welcome back, i'm stephanie ruhle, more now on the attorney general's threat to cancel his appearance before the house judiciary committee all because he and the democratic chairman disagree over who should be asking the questions. joining me now, former u.s. attorney and university of alabama law professor joyce vance and former justice department spokesperson and an msnbc analyst mat twitter -- excuse me matt miller, and "new
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york times" political reporter ken vogel. quick side note, i object to say good morning to your mother-in-law who i learned over the weekend is one of our biggest fans. matt, to you first, you called it weak for barr to refuse to answer questions from counsel. why would that be a red line for him? i think back to just a few months ago, christine blasey ford, a private citizen, was willing to sit and take questions from an attorney. >> that's exactly right and of course everyone in the republican party thought that was a great idea then. kudos to the house judiciary committee for addressing what's long been a glaring structural weakness with congress. we've all watched the committees, members of congress, with some notable exceptions don't ask the right questions, not prepared to ask follow-up questions. they've tried to address that by having staff ask questions, accruing to the benefit of both parties when it comes to future congressional oversight. the attorney general's a highly
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experienced and highly accomplished attorney, this is his second time as attorney general, he was the head of the off the of legal counsel, one of the most weighty offices inside the justice department, he was the general counsel of a major corporation for over ten years. he ought to be able to come up and answer questions from anyone, especially if he's proud of his actions over the last few weeks. for him to dodge it, it is the committees themselves that set the rules for how they will question witnesses. not the witnesses. and so i think the attorney general needs to be there on thursday, he needs to ask questions from whoever asks them. if he doesn't have anything to hide he shouldn't have anything to worry about. >> joyce, give me a history lesson here. i would have thought christine blasey ford was precedent, having committee counsel ask questions but republicans say there is none. >> you know, i think she is the precedent. and this is a private citizen, as you pointed out, stephanie, who sat for this grilling by counsel, not simply questioning by committee members. she did it in a forthright fashion. i think it's difficult to
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understand how the attorney general of the united states can testify to the american people with any less honesty and forthrightness and less to hide than a private citizen can. it's -- you know, we look a little bit further back we remember the spectacle of hillary clinton for 11 hours answering questions about benghazi. but apparently the current attorney general can't face congress, can't face a series of questions for even 30 minutes. >> okay. ken, let's get serious about what's actually going to happen here. if barr refuses to appear doesn't this fit basically the pattern we've seen from administration officials that are basically refusing to cooperate with congress, "new york times" ed lord says it's "trump administration effectively declaring lawmakers powerless over him." . the trump white house blows their sneeze wi-- nose with the
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subpoenas. >> we've seen a clash setup here. we knew this was going to happen when democrats took the house to some extent. we didn't know how aggressive the trump administration was going to be in trying to stiff arm congressional oversight. we see sort of the first -- this is really the first flash point where we'll get some sort of clarity into how far the trump administration is willing to go. it's telling, jeff bennett in your prior segment alluded to this, the dirty little secret of capitol hill and i think for us and most viewers sitting at home watching interest -- congressional -- why wouldn't they follow up a very good question from a prior member of congress? the congressional staff are the ones who do the heavy lifting on this and there is precedent for them asking questions of witnesses, maybe not of cabinet secretaries but certainly of other witnesses. we saw this in the intelligence committee's investigations of russia, the enclosed testimony.
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there were staff participating in the questions and they did a very good job when you read the transcripts, much different than the members of congress who appear at times to be more just using the testimony, using the hearings as an opportunity to grand stand. >> okay, matt, then if subpoenas are the way jerry nadler has to go doesn't that again play to trump's hand where he's going to run the clock? subpoenas don't mean you show up tomorrow. >> yeah, it certainly does. that's the advantage of the administration. if you're willing to be completely shameless, if you're not worried about the political consequences of stone walling, which is the incentive, in addition to just respect for -- >> what are the political consequences? >> that's the point, if you're not worried about them, looking like you have something to hide you can run this out forever and they clearly aren't worried about it. they've made the calculation that the political consequences of stone walling are less than the political consequences of showing up and having to answer difficult questions or turning over documents that might expose wrongdoing. what has to happen is certainly they can run the clock.
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how long? i think congress -- the administration is running a little risk by stone walling on every front that the courts are going to get fed up and when the judiciary committee goes to court and other committees go to court when the house goes to court to enforce subpoenas, the courts say, you know what, we're not going to drag this out the way we usually do. we're going to force you to start complying immediately. that's the risk, i think, the administration is running. and you may see kind of a shortened time frame and courts stepping in and siding with the house. >> joyce, do you agree with that? i mean, this thing could make its way to the supreme court. would that be an advantage or a disadvantage for the president? i'm pretty sure he's keen on who's sitting on that court. >> well, the president's keen on who's sitting on the court. but federal judges across the country have shown remarkable independence. and it doesn't really matter who appointed the judge, judges who believe, you know, who sort of soaked up that 12th grade civics lesson about three different branches of government and checks and balances still believe in that, regardless of who's president. and i think matt makes a great
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point about timing as the administration tries to run the clock past the 2020 election. it may just be that they're targeting themselves for some of the most damaging information to become public during the home run space in that election, in that campaign and it could be that we're seeing a summer of 2020 where information begins to become public and trump has to take those hits that he's tried to avoid. >> i need to change the subject. and, ken, speak to you on another story. one i cannot get enough of. a russian company had been under sanction until earlier this year. suddenly investing about $200 million in kentucky, home of senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. help us understand what's going on here. again, this russian oligarch who paul manafort was in the hole $19 million to when he joined the trump administration, and december 23rd, just before everybody went on vacation, steve mnuchin snuck out under
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the wire to get sanctions lifted under him and his businesses. >> this is the deal, this potential investment in kentucky, that would not have been possible has sanctions been in place. the lifting of sanctions allows for this potential investment to be made. and it certainly does, you know, raise at least optics issues given that mitch mcconnell was the one who really led the fight in the senate to prevent congress from blocking the lifting of the sanctions. there is some congressional review of sanctions of this -- of this type of sanctions. and that there was a surprising amount of republican support for blocking the lifting of the sanctions. but mitch mcconnell stepped in and managed to rally just enough republican opposition that the sanctions were lifted and so the question that some democrats are raising is, is this a payoff for mitch mcconnell, for the trump administration lifting these sanctions that they're going to
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inject $200 million into a project that would create jobs. the company said not at all, we didn't talk to mitch mcconnell or the trump administration about this but we're going to see congressional scrutiny of this investment. >> the optics count look good but in 2019, shame on you doesn't matter to a lot of people. matt miller, joyce vance, ken vogel, thank you all very much. coming up, a total of 17 democratic candidates officially running for president. the first to announce his run, john delaney, joins me next about what he has learned after nearly two years of campaigning. what he thinks this country needs and what they want. ♪ ♪ applebee's bigger, bolder grill combos. now that's eatin good in the neighborhood.
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welcome back, i'm stephanie ruhle. it may feel like the 2020 presidential race is just getting warmed up. but democratic candidate john delaney has been on the trail since summer of 2017 when he traded a congressional reelection bid for a shot at the house. former maryland congressman john delaney joins me now. congressman, welcome. tell me what your time on the campaign has taught you about the american people, and
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specific democrats. we've learned specifically this month that that twitter democrat and the actual democrat out there in this country want very different things. >> absolutely. i think what most americans want is what most democrats want, which is to stop the noise. they're just tired of all this fighting and they want us to actually start getting some things done. democrats in particular obviously want trump out of the white house. i think that's the number one issues that -- issue that democrats will focus on in this election and that will ultimately be the criteria in who they choose as our nominee in who can fight the president. they want us to stop fighting, solve problems, get things done, they want us to be optimistic about our future as opposed to what we're hearing from leaders now. they want leaders who put them ahead of their partisan politics. >> what problems are most important to those people? just today beto o'rourke released this sweeping trillion dollar plan to address climate change.
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the climate solutions caucus was one you were a part of. >> yes. >> how do you convince voters that this is something they need to make a top, top priority, because while you might understand it, many have said you've got to help the poor and middle class across this country today and climate change doesn't matter to them as a number one priority, or a trillion dollar spend. >> well, the number one priority is health care. that's what you hear about all the time, health care, pharmaceutical prices, we really have a broken health care system, health care costs going up faster than inflation and it's affecting american people. the other issue you hear a lot about in iowa, for example, is how there's no jobs in rural america and small towns. the economic data on a macro level is good in this country but as we all know it's not evenly distributed. a lot of small towns in iowa in particular have been drained of people and talent and opportunities. that comes up all the time. and they do care about climate change. but we have to solve climate change in a way that doesn't break the back of working americans. that's the key to how to deal
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with climate change. which is why i'm so oriented towards innovation. i think we can innovate our way out of this problem. i think we need almost a deep, decarbonization strategy where we actually invest in the next wave of innovation to extract carbon from the atmosphere, locate that in rural america. those are the kind of things that resonate with people. if you can show how we'll deal with climate and create jobs that's a winning formula. >> what do you do about the economy? those jobs lost in rural america, president trump honed in on that. >> yes. >> when president obama was in his last state of the union he was talking about the great economy. trump walked in and said great economy, it couldn't be more broken. fast forward till today we've got the same economic picture and president trump calls it great, and people across the board are repeating him. >> that's right. i mean, again, they're not looking at the facts. they're not looking at what's going on, they're not going to lordstown, ohio and seeing plants closing, not talking about how this trade war with
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china is actually really hurting rural america. so he has -- look, he was right to identify what's happened, the fact that there's all this concentration of opportunity in a handful of places, new york, boston, chicago, los angeles, san francisco, d.c., a couple other places and so much of this country has been left behind but he hasn't proposed anything to deal with the problem. unlike what i'm talking about, i'm talking about doing things like increasing the earned income tax credit, the best way to help working americans, requiring a certain percentage of government contractors, right, to have half of their employees in rural america. i'm talking about dealing with climate change in a way where we build a co 2 pipeline. if we're ever going to actually deal with climate change we have to extract carbon out of the atmosphere and put it back into the earth and we're going to need a whole new pipeline network in this country. in my judgment it should be located in the heartland so that we can move manufacturing there, the closer manufacturing is located to a cor boarbon pipelie
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easier it will be for them to actually capture carbon to send it to places to put back in the earth. things like that are prescriptive to the problems we have in this country and it will also create jobs. >> president trump thinks deregulation brings jobs back especially around small businesses, but i think payday lenders, regulation we saw help and protect the little guy, that's why we put regulation in place. how do you see regulation? >> i don't like duplicative regulations, multiple government agencies regulating the same thing. as someone who ran two businesses, took them public, had a deal with the regulatory environment i've seen how that can actually kind of clog the gears, if you will. but things like you're talking about, which is regulations that protect people, right, those he's really kind of diluted. think about what he hasn't done with privacy. we have no privacy legislation in this country. i mean, california passed something that was pretty
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significant. and there's nothing being done at the federal level. he's not leading us in a conversation about that. he's gutted the consumer finance protection bureau. his chief of staff technically runs that thing, which means no one's running it. >> which means no one's running it and you're willing looking to run the country. joe biden is now in the race. how does that change things? >> doesn't change things. for months people have talked about the vice president running. we've got a big field. "the washington post" poll that came out shows it's wide open, more than half the american people have no idea who they want to vote for. this is a battle of ideas and a battle about who can try to bring this country together and start solving problems. that's what the american people are looking for. >> race is wide open. in it to win it and congressman delaney is. next, this weekend's horrific shooting at a california synagogue has many re-examining security in houses of worship. are metal detectors in churches and armed guards in mosques really the answer?
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re-examining security procedure in synagogues. what's been the reaction there? >> reporter: as you would expect people are farefearful but also resolute as they gathered here for prayers. constantly in the back of their minds is the threat. in this temple in south florida and religious locations and churches and mosques all around the country, those have leaders once again reassessing what's going on, the security they need, all driven by a religious hatred and violence. this morning fear but also fortitude among the faithful. houses of worship across the country being forced to ramp up security after the deadly shooting at a packed california synagogue saturday on the final day of passover. it is the second major attack on a u.s. synagogue in just six months. after a gunman opened fire at the tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh, killing 11 people in
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october. and it comes on the heels of violence against christians in sri lanka where more than 250 people were killed in a series of bombings on easter sunday. and muslims in new zealand where last month an australian man opened fire on worshippers at two mosques, killing 50 people. the message of hate this weekend, again prompting some communities to take action. in new york city police have beefed up patrols at synagogues, churches and mosques. >> we must, we must be thinking of more ways to stop the spread of this hate and protect all houses of worship. >> reporter: at miami's faith community baptist church pastor richard dunn says you would never know some of his parishioners are off duty police officers, each armed and ready to respond to an attack. >> they come like they're coming to worship. we believe in the element of surprise.
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>> reporter: according to the fbi reports of hate crimes have spiked in recent years, increasing 17% in just one year. religion identified as one of the primary motivators. >> people are feeling emboldened to not only speak hatefully, but to actually act hatefully. >> the recent string of attacks prompting some congregations to reconsider open door policies while increasing security. >> we're constantly thinking about security, how do we make this place more secure, what's it going to take? >> that's just a fact of life today. >> very expensive fact of life but we have to do it. >> kerry, a very expensive fact of life. what about houses of worship? that simply don't have the money? it's not like a lot of them have tons. >> this is a really big question, many of them are wondering whether they can get some sort of assistance from the government. but as one of the parishioners here this morning said that enters a whole new area of separation of church and state. but this is ultimately all about
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protection and safety. so increasingly we are seeing more money spent on private security, and as you heard there, in some houses of worship, members of the congregation are packing heat themselves and they have been instructed that in the event that somebody comes in, they're clear to end the situation as best they can. >> my goodness, the times we are living in. thank you, nbc's kerry sanders. now to president trump who is among those who called to offer condolences after that deadly shooting at the synagogue in california. a presidential duty at a time when he is facing a whole lot of heat himself. and the threat of impeachment as he continues to block congressional requests for information, cries of obstruction grow even louder. that brings me to my next guest, a dear friend of mine, jared cohen, a "new york times" best selling author who just released a new book called "accidental prosecutes," profiling eight
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cases where a u.s. president was replaced either by death or politics. jared the timing of this is amazing. you finish writing this book in late 2018, that was just about the time an anonymous op-ed was published that said cabinet members had been whispering about the idea of the 25th amendment. did you have president trump in mind when you wrote this? >> first of all, i'm happy to be here, stephanie. >> thank you. >> this is a book i've wanted to write since my parents bought me a children's book when i was 8 years old and i started writing it almost six years ago before president trump even announced he was entering the race. so it's just sort of funny how things work, we're living in a time when people are fascinated by the presidency, fascinated by presidential power and presidential succession is more on the minds of americans more than the last quarter century. >> is there another chapter to your book not yet written? this is the longest stretch in u.s. history we've seen without a replacement. >> this is the longest period of time in history without a president dying in office. we have the oldest president in
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the history of the republic and two of the leading contenders on the democratic side are in their 70s and we still treat the vice presidency as a political gimmick to win a state, get a bump in the polls and it's time we give it more consideration. >> have
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committee lawyers from both sides question barr in a separate round of testimony. and justice department officials are also opposed to having barr speak afterwards in a closed door session to discuss the redacted portions of the mueller report. a doj spokesperson tells nbc news, quote, the attorney general agreed to appear before congress. therefore, members of congress should be the ones doing the questioning. he remains happy to engage with members on their questions regarding the mueller report. house judiciary committee jerry nadler pushing back hard. >> he's not going to dictate the judiciary committee. we'll use all legal mechanisms and they will comply because ultimately the law says they have to comply. >> our reporters are here following this showdown on capitol hill including joe

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