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reports" and here's ali velshi and stephanie ruhle for "velshi & ruhle". >> good afternoon, everyone. i'm ali velshi. >> and i'm stephanie ruhle. we begin with the escalating feud between house speaker nancy pelosi and president trump. pelosi calling the president, quote, villainous, and saying he wants to be impeached. >> two democratic aides tell nbc news that's what the speaker told democrats in a spat betwe and pelosi grew hotter on wednesday after the president re planned infrastructure meeting. you'll remember this from 24 hours ago. nded up giving a eeting with fiery press conference in the rose garden. >> this morning, nbc's caskasie hunt asked speaker pelosi if democrats think they can still work with the president. >> madam speaker, would you take another meeting with the president after what happened? and can you work with him on anything? >> of course. of course. i mean, we're dealing with a situation that is becoming more predictable, but i do think that
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we have a responsibility to try to find common ground. >> got to go to work. >> she's there to go to work. hans nichols is live at the white house for us. hans, the president insisted on wednesday that nothing gets done. what'd he say, there's no -- there's no -- he's not getting anything done until they stop the investigation. >> taking his toys and going inside. >> it's a nice day, so i would go outside to play if i had may way. but we're hearing they will work with congress at a staff level and that conversations are continuing, and that goes for trade, not infrastructure. it seems like infrastructure has been sequestered. but on the daelebt ceiling. to have some sort of resolution for the issues that are going to come to the foreth this summer. >> but this argument they're making, they will work on a staff level. what happens when that staff level then makes its way up to the white house? because we've watched the last
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two years of discussions and negotiations on a number of topics. and when it reaches president trump's desk, if he doesn't like what's going on, he says, "no" and he sends people kicking. this is the "i and i alone" president. >> reporter: that's true. but at the same time, to get to that point and to know where the principles are, you need to have done the legwork ahead of time. and what officials are telling us here is that those sorts of conversations will continue. so it's not radio silence. now at the same time, we heard from several officials earlier saying, if congress acts on things and signs them and passes them, the president will sign them into law. does that qualify as a negotiation? saying that you will sign something into law that congress passes? so it's unclear just how long the president will continue giving nancy pelosi the silent treatment. whether or not there's any sort of way for them to come together and how the president is going to get off of his rhetorical limb, which is no conversations, absolutely nothing, until nancy pelosi stops investigating.
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because pelosi has made it clear that she thinks her constitutional prerogatives and her responsibilities are to continue oversight, what the president thinks of as investigation. guys? >> has the president put himself in a position that he's in a corner? let's say the how passes some sort of infrastructure bill. it might die in the senate, but the republicans' argument thus far has been stop these investigations and focus on what the american people want. what if the democrats are able to do both while the president has his arms folded, ignoring subpoenas, stonewalling them, and doing nothing in terms of the legislative agenda? >> if it's a good bill and the president wants it, there's a good indication the president will sign it into law. the president's only in a corner if you assume he's going to be ideologically consistent and rhetorically consistent. he's reversed himself on a lot of issues. we saw that happen with the debt shutdown when he said he wasn't going to open up the government until they funded the border
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wall. so stz easy for the president to come back and reverse himself and say, that was always my position, because he's done that in the past. again, if it's just his signature, if that's the extent of their conversation, my readings of the conversation that i've had with officials here today is that they are still open to that and that wouldn't violate what the president said about the two-track policy where he said, if you're investigating, we won't do anything else. guys? >> hans nichols for us at the white house. right now, a bank ceo is facing charges for allegedly trying to exchange $16 million in loans for a top position in the trump administration. >> prosecutors say steven calk wanted a position in the trump administration and approved the loans for former campaign chair paul manafort in order to make that happen. >> with us now is nbc's julia ainsley who covers justice and homeland security. wow. calc was part of the president's economic team. how exactly did investigators find out about this scheme?
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>> well, stephanie, we've known about this in the public since the manafort trial. this was a character that came up again and again, as we tried to figure out how an investigator tried to figure out how paul manafort managed his lavish lifestyle as he was going further into debt, how he got loans. the answer to that was steven calk. so investigators came across steven calk and these loans as they were investigating paul manafort and found that they were giving him loans that other banks would not. and it's clear now that steven calk had some skin in the game for himself because hep wanted a position within the administration and thought, well, if i lend to the president's campaign manager or the candidate's campaign manager, maybe i'll have a good shot at getting something in that white house if he's elected. >> in the end, what happened? >> he was appointed to the counsel of economic advisers in august of 2016. but he never got a position within this administration. it could be that that would have gone differently if paul manafort had stayed on within the administration, but as we know, he stopped being the campaign manager before trump
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was even elected. but he ranked his top positions, ali, he ranked secretary of the treasury, of commerce, and even defense, something he had no experience with. and ultimately, he did not get that. and then after that, the banks' regulators downgraded the loans to manafort. but he came close. and he was part of the counsel of economic advisers, as you point out. >> that was amazing. >> focus on defense, a defense attorney. >> julia thank you. julia ainsley for us. wall street's having a rough morning. it's bracing for some bad news this weekend. the dow is down each week for the past month and unless it rallies back up to a number, 25,764 by closing on friday, this will be the first time since 2011 that the index has seen five straight weeks of net losses. in other words, each week for the last five weeks, the dow will have ended lower than it started. so you can see there, we're -- that would have to be about a 500-point gain from where we aro
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perspective, oh, my goodness, we have a market shock, is this a recession, the market is moving like this because of the the trade war. so this isn't a market negative. >> correct. >> the president has made a move that artificially impacts the market. and maybe for the time being, it's the right move, if you reach the president's ultimate goal. but we're hard-pressed to find someone who thinks that will be the case. >> cnbc's sue herrera joins us now. some of the stuff we're seeing in the in the markets today are earnings related. best buy says these tariffs are going to affect consumer prices for us. some of it's sentimental and some people are saying, stuff's really happening that could affect the bottom line of companies in which we invest. >> absolutely. we heard that not only from best buy, we heard it from macy's, and target had a pretty good report yesterday, but they are saying that they feel as if almost cumulatively, that they
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feel this is going to be a long drawn-out process. and china's language in the last two days has been very stern. and so these companies are now trying to figure out whether if more tariffs are imposed, or just the existing ones stay, whether or not they can pass on that extra cost to their consumers and target, macy's, and best buy all said "no, we don't think we can." and as a result of that, wthey'e going to take the hit on their bottom line. i'm also hearing from a number of analysts that the rhetoric that we're hearing between the republicans and the democrats, specifically house speaker pelosi and the administration, is creating an era of uncertainty on wall street. and as a result of that, people are putting their money into treasuries, into the ten-year bond, and as a result of that, we have yields on the ten-year that we haven't seen since early 2017. so i think this is going to be a rough patch for wall street, guys, and i don't know when it's going to end, because both sides
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are dug in? >> we've all covered business for a long time. and we know that come earnings season, companies look for every possible excuse to guide analysts down. it's the weather, it's the traffic. we know that corporate america got a massive corporate tax cut last year. are their margins so thin that they have no choice but to jack up prices or can they take some of this cushion -- can they cushion some of this? >> i think they can cushion a little bit of it, but what we heard specifically from best buy and also target was that they do not see an end in sight. and the rhetoric is increasingly difficult between the two sides, and as a result of that, they think they can cushion it a little bit, but if this goes on for six months or so, they're not sure that they will be able to cushion it. also, you had all of those shoe makers, the athletic apparel makers send a letter to the president, saying, if you keep
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these tariffs in place, we are going to see smif increamassive to the consumer. the consumer will be paying for these tariffs, not the chinese. >> sue, good to talk to you. as always, sue herrera for us at cnbc. well, president trump is refusing to work with democrats during these investigations into his finances. the house is working to get a better look at how much the president owes and to whom. so far, we know that four committees are requesting financial information ranging from the president's banking to his personal and business tax returns, even information from his accounting firm. two sources familiar with the financial investigation tell nbc that wells fargo has turned over documents. the royal bank of committee is in the process of complying with the request. the six other institutions missed their subpoena deadline on the 6th. two in particular, deutsche bank and capital one were sued by the trump family to prevent them from complying.
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this might be one of the reasons the president was so fired up yesterday. a federal judge ruled that those institutions with comply with the house request. deutsche bank was the only global bank willing to do business, willing to lend to the trump organization over the last decade. $2 billion over the last decades. >> despite lots of evidence that donald trump may not have been worthy of those loans. >> when he took office, he still owed them $300 million. >> joining us now is a member of the financial services committee, massachusetts congresswoman, ayanna pressley. good to have you here. thank you for joining us. have you had a chance to review any of the documents that have been turned over so far by wells fargo and td bank? >> not as of yet, but i'll just say, i'm very encouraged and grateful since this administration continues to return to stonewall, obstruct, that the courts are treating us
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as the co-equal branch of government that we are. >> what are you going to do about the six banks that missed their deadline two weeks ago? >> again, under the leadership of chairwoman waters, continue to leverage every tool available to us to get the information that we need, to get to the bottom of all of this and to get the truth for the american people. i mean, i have to just say this. i think, you know, mueller's a by-the-book guy, a constitutionalist, he left us bread crumbs, government and i didn't come to congress to impeach a president. i came to congress to work on behalf of the residents of massachusetts. and millions of americans that are suffering every day under the administration. duh you know, i believe we have no other choice. our hand is being forced because you were just talking about what's happening with tariffs and what impact this will have
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on farmers, on industry, on the market, on american workers and american families. the massachusetts southern congressional district is 53% people of color, 40% foreign born. the second largest lbgt community in the country. every day that we wait, people are suffering under this administration. so i supported the resolution early on, that was offered by representatives green and talib respectively to initiate impeachment proceedings. and in oversight and reform under chairman cummings and chairman water in financial services, we'll continue to leverage every tool available us to hold this administration accountable. and i think my colleagues and i might disagree about how we get there, how we consequence this, but ultimately, this is about the ultimate demonstration of patriotism, and that is restoring the american people's faith in government and our democracy, and that's by getting the truth and holding the occupant of this white house, this administration accountable.
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just yesterday or maybe it was two days ago now, secretary carson was before our committee. secretary mnuchin, as well. and even the cabinet members are just cavalier and obstruct and evade and stonewall. it is pervasive throughout this administration. >> do you have some sense of what to do about that? we watch these things happen, we watch testimony, we watch subpoenas go to home, we watch the white house say, i don't care about the subpoenas, we watch mnuchin say, you're not getting the tax returns. and i understand you have a process to follow, but as a freshman congresswoman, what's your sense of how this is supposed to go. because you didn't run to congress to not have oversight. >> that's right. and that's all we can continue to do, employ that oversight and accountability and leverage every tool available to us legislatively and within the courts, and that's why i'm so encouraged that the courts have ruled in our favor, not once,
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but twice. in favor of both of those committees' efforts. but jont hai don't have the ans here. we find ourselves in unprecedented times and in unprecedented terrain. but what i will say is this democratic majority continues to lead and legislate. just yesterday, we passed the consumers first act and my amendment to end the practice of the harassment by so many debt collectors, which is aggressive and pervasive. we passed the consumers first act to make sure that it's putting consumers first. all of the protections and the safeguards that were gutted by mulvaney, we restored those protections. this needs to be an independent watchdog organization, that puts the consumer first and i'm glad that we passed that legislation and i thank chairwoman waters for her stewardship and leadership and i'm glad my amendment passed.
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>> thank you for joining us, representative ayanna pressley, thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me. coming up next, the man known as american taliban is now free, but some officials hold he still holds extremist views, because he's actually said he does. so why was he released from prison? quoo we'll talk about that on the other side. you're watching vels"velshi & r" live on msnbc. "velshi & ruhle" live on msnbc. aleve. proven better on pain.
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welcome back to "velshi & ruhle." after serving 17 years in
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prison, the man commonly known as the american taliban is now free. john walker lindh was caught while fighting with the taliban two months after the 9/11 attacks. he was released earlier today, three years early from a prison in indiana. and officials are concerned that he is still an extremist. >> there's reason to be concerned about that. in newly released letters to nbc, lindh said, isis is, quote, doing a spectacular job. that was back in 2015. he also declared in 2014, quote, i feel honored to have been able to take part in the afghan jihad. now mike pompeo wants a review of lindh's release. >> unexplainable and unconscionable. i think it calls for a review of our processes, all the things that went into this day where he's being allowed out early, i think we need to review it all. >> joining us now, nbc's ken dilanian. ken, a u.s. memo intel says he continued to advocate global jihad while he was in prison. he had a 20-year sentence.
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what in the world was he doing getting out three years early? >> well, he got credit for good behavior, stephanie, and that's not discretionary, that's mandatory under the law. it's not even accurate to say he was released early. everyone who qualifies gets it, but apparently espousing extremist views does not qualify as bad behavior. so hereprison? >> exactly, failing to -- not getting infractions, following the rules, doing what you're told, nothing to do, >> we know that he sent that one letter. what more do we know about what he said in terms of praising isis or other threatening language? >> you mentioned that 2016 intelligence report, which had been previously reported, saying he was espousing global jihad. nbc news said there was a more current memo this week who said this guy is a jihadi. we have letters from lindh that were sent to the nbc station in los angeles, in which he was
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asked point-blank, his 2015, does isis represent islam? and he said, yes, and they're doing a fantastic job. and this, by the way, was after isis beheaded americans on video, systemically raped yazidi women, burned prisoners. and he said isis establishing a caliphate in iraq and syria was a good thing. so what's interesting about this, a lot of people remember he expressed remorse at his sentencing in 2002, and there was this sort of ethos that somehow he had been victimized and was a misguided young man who maybe was caught up in a post-9/11 anger wave. apparently, that's not true. because the letters that we have show that he has no remorse for fighting with the taliban in afghanistan and he sports extremism to this day. >> so here's the issue. legally, he can get out early, because he followed the rules and didn't do bad things in prison. this guy has espoused a view that most people would think is not in keeping with being -- walking around in society. are there any measures being taken to ensure he's not a danger to society? it's clear that -- well, we
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don't know if it's clear, but as of 2014 or '15, there was no rehabilitation involved in his imprisonment. >> great point, ali. so the judge has imposed unusually strict conditions on his supervised release. his internet will be monitored. he won't be allowed to travel abroad. and we're also told the fbi can be expected to keep a close eye on him. whether they can get a warrant to surveil his kmupcommunicatios another matter. but what this case underscores is a larger problem, is that the u.s. doesn't really have a deradicalization in its prisons the way say saudi arabia does. and there are more than 100 terrorism offenders that are due to be released over the next ttwo two to three years. and some people are wondering what we're doing about this. why don't we have programs to get to these people before we reach the day that they walk out of prison. >> thanks very much, ken dilanian. >> what if he is in prison and behaving, brushing his teeth,
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going to bed, whatever the rules are. and has really dangerous views. where do you put that? >> but we also don't jail people for their dangerous views, we jail people for acting on their dangerous views, which he did and then he did his jail term. this is interesting, 20 years after 9/11, this stuff will start to matter. >> and what happens if he leaves prison and then acts on these views. we're going to hago after our lawmakers and say, how could you have released him? this is complicated stuff. >> it is. next -- >> coming up next, yeah, go ahead. >> deadly tornadoes ripped through missouri, causing unimaginable damage. we're going to go live in hard-hit jefferson city, hearing from people there who survived the terrifying night and what's in store for them next. you're watching "velshi & ruhle." xt you're watching "velshi & ruhle. woman 1: i had no symptoms of hepatitis c. man 1: mine... man 1: ...caused liver damage. vo: epclusa treats all main types of chronic hep c.
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welcome back to "velshi & ruhle." we are following breaking news. take a look at these barges that are colliding with a dam. this is because of the flooding in weber falls, oklahoma. the video has just come into the newsroom. two barges, as you can see. the barges broke loose, actually, during the barrage of storms that have hit the midwest.
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both barges ended up sinking, by the way, into the arkansas river. officials say they do not know if that dam is going to hold. so this gives you a strength of the power of these -- >> stunning. >> yeah. >> my goodness. in missouri, emergency workers are now going door to door, looking for survivors of that devastating tornado that ripped through jefferson city late last night. crews have already rescued about 20 people. another suspected tornado about 150 miles away killed a told of three people. many people, last night, ali, were sleep in their beds when this hit. >> let's go live to nbc's morgan chesky in jefferson city, missouri. morgan, what's the latest from where you are? >> i can tell you right now that those first responders still going door to door, making sure no one is trapped inside their home. this twister came right before midnight. a lot of people in bed, but a lot of people plugged into the tornado warning that they knew was going to be happening late this night, as that wave of storms made its way through. and you can see, this is what it
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started to impact right as it made its way through jefferson city. trailers blown over on their side, but to see the real path this tornado left behind, just look this direction. destruction as far as the eye can see. this was one of the first businesses hit as this tornado made its way. this is a storage facility and i can tell you about 50% of the units here have been damaged. people are coming up today, seeing if any of their possessions are left behind. and a lot of folks are carrying what little they can salvage from this mess that this tornado left. we know that from a while, the hospital was running off of battery power, because so many power lines were knocked down. and for a lot of these folks, they were fortunately able to take shelter wherever this tornado made its way through. i had a chance to speak to the governor today, and he credited that through the early warning systems that they have in place here, that when that siren went off, people knew exactly where they needed to go. take a listen. >> so we're watching all these
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warnings take place live to make sure that people were warned. the city here in jefferson county, the county, the emergency personnel did a great job getting these warnings out last night and i think people heeded those warnings and took shelter. that's very important. thank goodness it worked like it was supposed to work. >> and right now, despite people volunteering to come help those affected, emergency responders encouraging everyone to stay clear of these impacted areas, as they try to tend to the wires that have been covering a lot of the roadways and try to get power restored to a lot of this town that still remains in the dark. ali, steph? >> morgan, thanks very much for us in jefferson city, missouri. all right, electoral victory is declared in the world's biggest democracy. narendra modi delivered a victory speech to supporters, promising a, quote, bright future as hi party cruised to win earlier. it would seem to assure another term for the indian leader. >> and the election was a very important one. india with its 1.3 billion person population is on pace to
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outgrow china by the year 2024. just a few minutes ago, president trump tweeted his congratulations saying this. great things are in store for the u.s./india partnership, with the return of p.m. mody at the helm. i look forward to continuing our important work together. >> it is one area in which we have not spoiled our relationship with another country. this has actually been a fairly strong relationship that continues. joining us now, nbc's matt bradley, who is covering this from london. matt, the first election took place in april. why are we just getting results now? >> why did it take six weeks and seven different phases of this vote? it's because it's such a mammoth election. as you mentioned, some 900 million people, about 6 million ended up voting. that's four times the number of eligible voters that we have in the united states. as you can see, that kind of process in so many different
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regions, you can see why it would take six weeks for this kind of election. it's the biggest exercise of democracy on earth. >> so what do these results mean for the future of india? mody is clearly not a new name, not a new agenda. >> reporter: no, so it does mean continuity, stephanie, on one end. he's been the prime minister for five years. but it also means that this is just, you know, a verification for modi that his policies were working. the problem for him is that a lot of those policies weren't successful. he ran back in 2014 on a platform of putting indians back to work, but now unemployment is at a 45-year high and it just goes to show that what works for modi is this nationalist, populist message of authoritarian government, of improving security, and really trumpeting that religious card, that hindu nationalism. >> and that is important as the world looks at this. all is not well in india. the world likes modi because of what he has been able to do for
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india economically, but there is this hindu national force behind him, as well. matt, thanks for your coverage. matt bradley for us. next, we talk about it all the time. college prices are way up. but here's good news. some states are now giving students a chance to attend for free. we'll tell you about the innovative programs and how this could be do abable in all 50 states. that's some good news coming up. you'll want to hear it. this is "velshi & ruhle." hear t this is "velshi & ruhle. esiest. kraft for the win win. with moderate to severe ulceratiyour plans... crohn's, can change in minutes. your head wants to do one thing... but your gut says not today. if your current treatment isn't working... ask your doctor about entyvio®. entyvio® acts specifically in the gi tract, to prevent an excess of white blood cells from entering and causing damaging inflammation. entyvio® has helped many patients achieve
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you're watching "velshi & ruhle." and defense secretary shanahan just spoke about the u.s. troop levels in the middle east. >> he was addressing reports that the united states could be sending 10,000 troops there in response to a growing threat from iran. >> joining us now are national security and pentagon correspondent, courtney kube. courtney, what's the latest? >> so this is something that came out late yesterday afternoon. there were a couple of wire reports about the potential for more u.s. troops to go into centcom. this is based off of this continuing threat we've been hearing about from iran, this multiple threat for several weeks for now. what we've kind of learned as we've pulled back the onion on this story, there was an original request that came from u.s. central command asking for an immediate response. it was a bomber task force, but there were other requests in that original request for additional forces that the pentagon and the joint staff have been going back and forth on and working through. so there are additional forces that are being considered.
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acting secretary of defense, patrick shanahan, speaking to reporters right now, he pushed back on the notion that any of the numbers are firm at this point. it sounds like they're still going back and forth. what we're potentially looking at seem to be more defensive in nature and some additional force protections. that could mean everything from maybe additional police or security for the forces that are already there, potentially some kind of missile defense asset. but putting an actual number, it doesn't seem like anything has been decided at this point, ali and steph. >> courtney kube, thank you. please listen to this next story. it's amazing. several states around the nation have started free community college programs. it's not just bernie sanders with the idea. their state's actually doing it. and the reason is they want to encourage students to get out there and get a degree. >> and now republican-leaning state is jumping onboard, funding full rides anmo some lucky students, regardless of their income.
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nbc's anne thompson has the story. >> in bu callick, tennessee, home to jack daniels and trump voters, where nearly 80% voted for the president, there's a buzz about a program most often associated with progressive examines free college tuition. >> now, we want to interview that cardiac output of someone. >> specifically , free communit college education. >> i feel like it's encouraged me and other students to go to college. >> reporter: mckenzie eldridge is studying to be a nurse at mt. lowe community state college. she's the second to go on the tennessee state promise, paying for two years of community college or technical school, regardless of income, saving mckenzie and others up to $2,200 a semester. >> what difference does that make in your life?
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>> i know that it's really helped me stress less. i know that i would have been stressed, having to ask my parents to help me or having to look for a job that would help me pay more. >> funded by the lottery, tennessee promise passed with bipartisan support five years ago, sold by then governor, republican bill haslem as an investment in tennessee's economic future. >> the reality is is most jobs in the future will require more highly trained people, but it will take less of them to do that. the states that are able to have these highly trained people will win. >> reporter: answering the call, dr. michael torrent, graduating students with technical and troubleshooting skills. >> what's the feedback you're getting from employers about that first crop of tennessee promise students? >> i was just at a company yesterday and they're pleased. they're pleased with our students. we have a warranty program that if there's an employer that is not pleased or feels that there
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needs to be some additional retooling of skilling of a graduate from one of our programs, they can send them back to us and we can provide them with that skill. >> how many have sent them back? >> i haven't seen one. >> the college going rate jumped since the promise took effect in 2015. success lies in its simplicity. >> we had financial programs in the state before. most of the at a certain income. it's pretty powerful just to say, you can go to college for free. >> all students get mentors and must do community service. in exchange, mckenzie and others get the skills to get a job and build a career. >> i know as long as i put my mind to it, it can be done. >> just think about this. oftentimes these programs with associated with democrats. this is obviously a republican-leaning state and each one of these students, the fact that they get a mentor and have to do community service. sometimes when you offer something for free, it actually gets discounted, not respected.
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but these students, it's actually giving them a chance. >> and they've got to use these mentors. the question, you were talking to ann earlier today, the question is, why can't we emulate this and replicate it nationally? >> the governor of phenomenon has said he would love to see this on a national scale, but worries that candidates are going to say, yes, let's go federal. in tennessee, they're saying, do not make this a federal program, because every state has different needs, and only those states know what those needs are and what the job profiles are. so keeping it run by each state would be a huge win. and they looked at the jobs across their state and said, we've got a skill shortage, let's prepare our kids. >> that's a cool story. coming up next, we're going to dig into a new report on deaths related to fentanyl. why they're on the rise and the ten places hardest hit by the sympathet synthetic opioid. you're watching "velshi & ruhle" live on msnbc. g "velshi & ruhle" live on msnbc. ♪
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the trump administration has committed $6 billion in funding to fight the opioid epidemic. and president trump has declared the crisis a public health emergency. but davis suggests fentanyl-related deaths are still on the rise. a new investigative report conducted by "the washington
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post" found that ten places in the united states with the highest number of fatal ov overdoses caused by the synthetic opioid. two major cities, baltimore and st. louis. but in west virginia, it ranks number one for the highest number of fatal fentanyl overdoses in the nation. a place the post says has very long waiting lists for treatment. listen to these numbers. in 2017, the year president trump took office, a record 28,869 people died from sympathetic opioids. that number is up 46.4% from 2016. and in the first two months of 2018, the most recent estimates show 20,567 americans died. that death toll is now on track to exceed the previous year. most of these deaths were, indeed from fentanyl, a drug that is 50 times more powerful
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than heroin. fentanyl has claimed the lives of more than 67,000 people. that is more than the number of u.s. service members killed during vietnam, iraq, and afghanistan wars combined. can you say that one more time. i don't think people understand it. >> joining us now one of "the washington post" reporters behind this investigation. tell us, first of all, what the trump administration has been doing to fight the opioid epidemic? >> well, when president trump came into office, as you all just said, he inherited the deadliest drug epidemic in american history. tens of thousands of people were dying from this sympathetic opioid that was being shipped into the united states via the mail, from china and over the u.s. border, the southwest border from mexico. and president trump vowed to take several steps and to move faster than the obama administration had done, giving these staggering numbers that you just recited.
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he dlaeclared the opioid crisis allocated an additional $6 billion to the crisis. but my colleagues and i wanted national public health emergency his first year in office. to understand, okay, we're his justice department ramped up living in this bubble that is prosecutions of ramped up prose. washington, we're hearing all these pronouncements, what is they began to train more dogs to happening on the ground. detect fentanyl on the border. and so we got this data from the congress required the using electronic monitoring of cdc and it showed where fentanyl was hitting the hardest. foreign s you said so we decided to go to some of those places and see what is happening on the ground. and it is so depressing. it is just ravaging these communities. >> and the geography is staggering. five counties in one state alone. what are the local health officials are telling you that solution looks like given what the administration is already trying to do? >> well, they need more money for drug treatment. what people on the ground say is this needs to be treated like the epidemic that it is. >> $6 billion doesn't get you there? >> well, it is not. there is a bill introduced for
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$100 billion. i mean, people feel like this should be treated like the aids toward that. and that the money being allocated is really a crop drop in the bucket. that there is not an infrastructure in the rural communiti communities, there weren't enough treatment centers and the ones there had long waiting lists. and what people told us is that when people addicted to fentanyl or heroin are ready to go into drug treatment, you have to get them in right away. you can't wait because they will either not want the treatment when you come to them or they will be dead. >> all right. thanks for your great reporting on this. we are heading in to memorial day weekend where we remember those who have given their lives in military service to the united states. today we're also honoring their caregivers, those who support military veterans here at home. we'll be live at a
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welcome back. we're shining a light on caregivers for wounded veterans.
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>> important people. these are the tens of thousands of spouses, parents, brothers and sisters who sacrificed their lives to offer full-time care to the wounded. joining us now, gabe gut rise li g the g guttierez live from a rehab facili facility. tell us about it and who are the people there. >> reporter: we are here at the center for the intrepid. this is a state-of-the-art facility built with donations from 600,000 americans. he is demonstrating how this pool works. this is used for therapy. they are able to -- if they have lost limbs, they can come here and work their muscles back up. and this isn't just physical therapy that the veterans have
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to go through. they are also taking care of their invisible wounds as well. and that is why we are trying to shine a light on caregivers. again this pool is used to help many of the veterans. we did speak with a family of someone injured back in 2009 in afghanistan when an ied gave him a traumatic brain injury. we spoke to them and she talked about the challenges of so many of the caregivers, family members, face every day. here is part of our conversation. >> he was supposed to go on a ten day mission and he was in an area borderlining pakistan. and just ripe with tell baliban everywhere. sadly two of his good friends died during the same time.
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and it was horrible. and when they found todd, the roof of the humvee had broken apart in three places. and the weight of it was actually keeping his artery in place, so they were able to tourniquet him. but it broke every rib. it is amazing that he had a closed head injury. i'm amazed that his head didn't like just -- he is a miracle. >> reporter: it certainly has been a long road to recovery for that family. for the last several year, they have been coming to places like this, again, we're here at the center for the intrepid helping so many of the veterans not just deal with physical wounds, but also the i believe advinvisible well. they treat more than 150 patients on any given week and
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we just wanted to highlight their story as we approach memorial day. >> gabe gut rutierez for us in texas. >> think about this, 5.5 million military and veteran caregivers in 9 united states. think about the care givers. if you want to learn more, you can visit hidden heros.com. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here at 3:00 p.m. >> and i'll be back here at 9:00 a.m. eastern. right now, we hand it off to kasie hunt in d.c. >> such an important story right there at the end, guys. please do visit hidden heros.com. thanks so much. i'm kasie hunt. it is 11:00 a.m. out west and 2:00 p.m. here in washington where there is finger pointing and fresh debate over who will own a new age of gridlock. the white house and democrats remain at an impasse today over the president's refusal to legislate until congress ends their investigations.
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and one thing is clear, each side believes that they have the strategic advantage. at the white house, the president of course took to twitter. he called democrats the do nothing party. and again lashed out at their attempts of congressional oversight. a message echoed by his press secretary. >>

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