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american history and the wars of the present left behind and left without a brother, sister, mother, father. those are the people we ought to be thinking about this weekend. >> we talk about the greatest generation. you talked to admiral mccraven, anybody that's been fighting with this country since 9/11, they will tell you this, too, is the greatest generation. >> that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. >> thanks. hi there, i'm stephanie ruhle. it's 9:00 a.m. on the east coast. we have a lot to get to this morning. our team of extraordinary nbc reporters is here with new details on the stories impacting your life today. starting with this breaking news. after failing to win support for her brexit plan, british prime minister theresa may announces her own personal brexit. >> everything i can to convince mps to back that deal.
sadly, i have not been able to do so. i am today announcing that i will resign as leader. >> harvey weinstein may have to pay to the tune of $44 million. reports of a huge settlement of multiple lawsuits over allegations of sexual harassment and misconduct. president trump announces sweeping authority to attorney general bill barr to investigate his own intelligence agencies. and how about that war of words. it is escalating. the president and house speaker nancy pelosi take their feud to a whole other level. we must start this morning with president trump, who has now decided he's not just a genius but an extremely stable genius. that's one we haven't heard in a while. peter alexander at the white house, i think it is fair to call this a turbulent last 24 hours. the president calling the speaker crazy.
naming names when asked about treason. what does the white house think about this strategy? >> you want to talk about bitterness and biting attacks. in the last 24 to 48 hours we've seen this feud between the most powerful democrat in america and the president of the united states just get so much more personal. from the president we heard him for the first time really giving a nickname to nancy pelosi, calling her crazy nancy. he said she's a mess. he said she's lost it. he described as a nasty type comment, her comment earlier in the day where she said he needed an intervention. in effect says she prays for him. it was a remarkable day to witness. a source close to pelosi says she went out, set out with the specific intention of picking a fight with the president to try to unnerve him. it appears it worked. he was furious even into the evening where he was tweeting a video that was edited to sort of
cut together a series of moments where she appeared to be stammering in her comments yesterday, which raises another issue, which is a series of the president's allies and friends and supporters who have been tweeting distorted videos of nancy pelosi and some of her recent comments that are to make it appear like she's drunkening slurring. the bottom line is, this has devolved. the president is tweeting again, attacking democrats saying he doesn't know why they want to hear from robert mueller, the special counsel, insisting they want a do-over. quoting some of his favorite friends seen on fox news, including lindsey graham, saying there was nothing wrong. there were no high crimes, calling out the democrats for this entire effort. >> editing videos of the speaker of the house. this is 2019. what kind of response are we hearing from pelosi's office?
>> reporter: obviously pelosi's office is mentioning and noting these are doctored videos and they carry no weight. but they're also letting pelosi's tweets speak for themselves. she tweeted, when the, quote, extremely stable genius starts acting more presidential, she will work with him on infrastructure and trade. what this means is the government is completely broken. democrats went to the white house earlier this week to try to get somewhere on infrastructure. the one issue both democrats and the president thought they could perhaps come to an agreement on, they both wanted this issue, and then another example of a broken government, disaster aid. this bill usually bipartisan, an emergency supplemental bill, took months to come to an agreement. it finally happened. after months of rangeling where the president was adding in
extraneous things he wanted in this bill. the question is, does this give more fuel to the pro-impeachment faction of the democratic party to move forward with impeachment proceedings, especially since pelosi has been saying, we can walk and chew gum at the same time. we can govern while investigating and does this undercut her argument. >> that doctored video not being an issue. the fact it's a doctored video is exactly the problem. the president sending out an edited video that's simply not true of the speaker of the house. leigh ann, thank you. president trump is also taking extraordinary steps of a different kind today, giving his attorney general, bill barr, sweeping authority to review the justice department's investigation into his 2016 campaign. why does that matter? well, our next reporter certainly knows because nobody
knows the justice department better than pete williams. pete, i'm a mere civilian. explain to me what this new authority is and why does it have so many people concerned? an average person on the street might say, attorney general, yeah, that's his jam. >> it gives the attorney general two things. in terms of this review that he's been doing of how the fbi and why the fbi launched its investigation of the trump campaign as it was looking at russian investigation meddling. the first thing directs the intelligence agencies to cooperate with him in this. i think this is, you know, sort of pro forma. he's already had this cooperation. the doj says he's been working with them. the key thing is to give the attorney general the authority to classify the declassification of the intel agencies in doing their initial investigation. what's significant about that is that this declassification authority is something these agencies very jealously guard
because they know why these things are classified, what went into it. now, the order does say that the attorney general should, to the extent he deems is practical, he says, consult with these agencies before he does this, but the question is, why would he want this authority and presumably the investigators who are doing this review already have a security clearance, so they wouldn't necessarily need it, but that's led some to wonder whether this is something the attorney general would want, if he wanted to make any of these things public. now, going to be an interesting thing to see how this plays out politically because one thing congress has said is we want transparency and here is the attorney general apparently taking a step to make these things public. because it's such a jealously guarded authority, that's why the intel authorities, you're hearing a little concern from them about it. >> mr. alexander, i know you had a back and forth with the president regarding barr's investigation and treason.
>> reporter: you're exactly right. he repeatedly said on social media and out loud that his adversaries, as he likes to describe them, are guilty of treason, so i tried to nail him down on that yesterday. here's part of our exchange that took place yesterday afternoon. take a listen. >> sir, the constitution says treason is punishable by death. you accused your adversaries of treason. who specifically? >> a number of people. they have unsuccessfully tried to take down the wrong person. if you look at comey, mccabe, probably people higher than that, if you look at struck, if you look at his lover, lisa page, they wanted an insurance policy so should she for any reason lose, remember, 100 million to 1 -- maybe he said 100 million to nothing, but should she lose, we'll have an
insurance policy and we'll get this guy out of office. >> i'll let pete explain exactly what treason is. it's not what the president thinks it is, being unloyal to the united states. what was striking to the president when you say to his face that treason is punishable by death, if you saw him in that moment, i was staring at him, he nodded his head and continued to repeat those names. >> i was nervous there. we'll let pete describe treason and not a wonderful lover, which is extraordinary to hear our president describe. what is this all about? what exactly does treason mean? >> sure. with all due respect to the president, he uses this word all the time. i hope somebody explains to him what it is. it's set out in the constitution. it says giving aid and comfort. it says leveling war against the united states or giving comfort -- aid and comfort to its enemies or adhering to them, it says. aid and comfort has to be
something beyond words of encouragement. it has to be something concrete. treason was used to prosecute people who aided the japanese in world war ii or the germans in world war ii. it really hasn't been used in the last 70 years. an american, adam gadahn was charged with treason for making propaganda videos for al qaeda. the justice department considered charging john walker lindh with treason but didn't have enough evidence. >> i understand those. in this case the president is misusing the term. who exactly and how is he categorizing treasonist behavior? >> first of all, it applies against the united states, not someone running for president. donald trump when he was running for president he was a private citizen. so nobody can commit treason against a private citizen. it's impossible. secondly, it means more than just being disloyal.
it's a totally different thing. it means leveling war with a designated enemy against the united states. julian and ethel rosenberg who were convicted and put to death for giving away atomic energy secrets. they couldn't get charged with treason because at the moment russia wasn't a designated enemy of the united states. that's why it doesn't apply to political disputes or even somebody trying to undercut a presidential campaign if, indeed, that's what really happened. >> see, i told you why pete williams is the best. i didn't even know he was going to use the word oregonian. who says that word? pe thank you so much. we that to talk theresa may, calling it quits earlier this morning. british prime minister may announced her resignation as the leader of the conservative party after failing three times to get
the parliament to agree. that plan is known as brexit. let's go to kelly cobiella outside the uk parliament. just a moment ago our team here was saying this is the government not working. please, we're small potatoes compared to what is happening where you are. what does theresa may's resignation mean for the future of brexit? >> reporter: it essentially means in terms of brexit, that's on hold for the next several weeks. once again, this country is in complete paralysis. none of the work of government really getting done because the focus is on brexit. now brexit is not getting done because the prime minister has stepped down effective june 7th. a leadership election will then take place. that could take anywhere from six weeks probably, possibly longer, but we're looking at mid-summer before there's a new leader, new prime minister. meantime, the math hasn't changed. inside the parliament there's
such division over what kind of brexit, how the country should leave the european union. that doesn't make a difference if you change the prime minister. the new prime minister will have to find a way to bring the country together, to bring lawmakers together so that they can pass some sort of plan to get out of the european union. there really is no sign of that happening as we stand now. in addition to that, the -- europe has already said, look, we're not looking at renegotiating. we're not going to talk about renegotiating. you, the united kingdom, need to figure out what you want. you've gotten the best deal possible. theresa may very emotional this morning talking about stepping down and talking about her deep regret about not being able to bring brexit over the line. take a listen. >> it is and will always remain a matter of deep regret to me that i have not been able to deliver brexit. it will be for my successor to
find a way forward on the referendum. to succeed, he or she will have to find consensus in parliament where i have not. such a consensus could only be reached if those are all sides of the debate are willing to compromise. >> compromise, that is certainly what they are looking for. kelly, please keep us posted. back to new york. harvey weinstein and some of his accusers have apparently reached a tentative $44 million deal to settle civil lawsuits filed by women who have accused the disgraced media mogul of sexual misconduct. is this settlement a sifl settlement, an admission of wrongdoing on weinstein's pa snrt. >> no. that's an important distinction. we learned a majority of that $44 million will go towards weinstein's accusers and to some of their attorneys.
it's important to note, this is a civil deal only. that means it will not impact the criminal case against weinstein, which is set to go to trial in september. overnight a new bombshell involving harvey weinstein. according to a source familiar with the proposed deal, the disgraced movie mogul has agreed to a $44 million 1isettlement. the source adding board members of his former film studio, the weinstein company, have also signed off. as many as 100 women have accused weinstein of inappropriate behavior, ranging from harassment to rape, including some huge hollywood stars like angelina jolie, rose mcgown. their stories ignite the anti-sexual harassment, me too and times up. the agreement first reported by "the wall street journal" involves the new york attorney
general's office and would settle more than 15 lawsuits filed against weinstein and his former company. all of the $44 million would be covered by insurance companies, which were facing more than three times that amount in litigation. a source says $30 million will go to weinstein's accusers, their attorneys and creditors. $14 million will go to cover legal fees for weinstein board who have been accused of covering up weinstein's bad behavior. in terms of the deal, there is no admission of wrongdoing. the settlement doesn't affect a criminal case pepding against weinstein in new york, which charges him with rape and other sex crimes. that trial is set to begin in september. the former movie mogul, who is currently out on bail, has pleaded not guilty. he has also repeatedly denied all accusations of nonconsensual sex against him.
>> denying all accusations yet paying out $44 million. i'm not sure how that works. is weinstein commenting on any of this? >> weinstein's representatives are declining to comment on this proposed deal. we reached out to the new york state attorney general's office but so far we have not heard back. >> thank you so much. we're digging deeper into those big stories and what they mean to you. do not go anywhere. we'll start with trump versus pelosi. is the feud just usual partisan bickering or much, much bigger? two fantastic d.c. insiders will be here on how this fight could last into 2020. here's what's twisted. why both sides might want it to. plus, we know the president watches fox news. is that how he's finding his contractors to build his wall? we'll explain that on the other side, too. de, too. choicehotelsm like this: surf's up. earn a fifty-dollar gift card
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breaking news right now. north korea declaring this morning that they will never resume negotiations with the united states unless the trump administration moves away from the demand for north korea to give up its nuclear program. we have the latest from beijing. nuclear disarmament is the entire basis for the negotiations. if that is off the table, are we behind square one? >> well, it doesn't slide
directly back to square one, perhaps, but it does put us into very familiar territory. with this declaration from north korea, which is the latest sign of displeasure since the collapse of the talks at the hanoi summit at the end of february. this unnamed foreign ministry official is saying talks are off unless the u.s. claws back what the regime calls unilateral demands. now, we may not be all the way back to square one because president trump and kim jong-un still tout their very warm relationships. we've seen that over the past few weeks as north korea has been changing short term ballistic missiles and the white house is brushing them over off because they see only long-range ballistic missiles as a threat to the united states. what's key is the lines of communication are silent. there haven't been working talks, even between north korea
and south korea. the projects they had under way have come to a standstill. north korea squarely blames the u.s. for this impasse. the north has been wanting at least partial sanctions relief for taking steps towards denuclearization while the trump administration wants all or nothing. president trump has tension with iran. north korea could be using this period as leverage in order to gain concessions knowing president trump considers north korea his foreign policy win. stephanie? >> all right, thank you so much, janice. turning back to d.c., president trump has made the border wall front and center of his candidacy and, of course, his presidency. he has a very specific person in mind to build it. "the washington post" reports the president has repeatedly urged homeland security officials to hire a specific north dakota-based firm, whose ceo is a gop donor and, oddly
enough, a frequent guest on fox news, as the contractor to build the wall on the southern border. that contract is worth billions of dollars. joining me now to weigh in from "the washington post," writer of the must-read morning newsletter "power up," jackie, and senior correspondent for politico and author of the d.c.'s other morning newsletter, politico playbook. in a statement to your paper the white house said this, the president is one of the country's most successful builders and knows better than anyone how to negotiate the best deals. first of all, that's not the case. the trump organization is not known as one of the country's best builders, but they didn't really answer your question. what in the world is going on here. >> no, they didn't. this sort of insane story by my colleagues, josh and nick, really revealed, i think, sort of a corruption level of what oversight has been concerned
with when it comes to the president making policy decisions. that's that he's not necessarily impartial. and is sometimes being driven by ulterior motives, like ties to his donors or people that he sees as allies on fox news. and as josh and nick reported in this piece, trump's obsession with giving the business to one of his top gop donors alarmed department of homeland security and military officials. the white house has not confirmed the story, as you read in that statement, but they haven't denied it. instead they sort of pointed to trump's preoccupation with what the wall is going to look like. which is really in line with a lot of our reporting previously about the small details as it relates to the wall and how it looks and sort of the mechanics behind these kind of things as opposed to the actual policy. >> let's play devil's advocate
for a moment, anna. there are ceos that go on television all the time. there are ceos that give to political parties all the time. if this company has the technology to build the wall, does it matter he's a big gop donor? >> i mean, this is what companies spend millions and millions of dollars on pre-trump and they will after trump in terms of trying to influence the process and get business. i think the big difference here, the outlier is the president. it isn't just on this border wall. there's been several instances, whether it's on tariffs and who is going to be able to get a waiver, whether you have treasury secretary steven mnuchin talking to executives at walmart talking about price increases that might go into effect, that's what's really different here. the fact a company is trying to use its position and power and using the press to try to elevate its image and to get in front of the right people, that's not necessarily the news to me. the news is really what's happening in the white house. >> we must switch gears. you know what i've got to talk
about, ladies. the fight we're seeing between the president and speaker nancy pelosi. this is not a garden variety political fight. nancy pelosi is continuing to ramp up her rhetoric, her argument against the president. and the president -- it is so concerning, state of the world concerning, tweeting out this highly edited video which makes it seem pelosi is stumbling over her words and rudy giuliani tweeted out another video which is slowed down to make it seem like the speaker is slurring her words. it's stunning. you write donald trump has dragged democrats into his, quote, vortex of chaos. is this the vortex of chaos you're talking about? edited videos of the speaker of the house. >> i think what we're talking about there is really this vortex of jumping from issue to issue and not making any actual progress. the video, i think we called actual fake news in playbook this morning.
i will say giuliani, he did delete that tweet later. clearly the president retweeted one of the fox news videos that was altered as well. you have his kind of stamp of approval of this kind of tactic, going against the speaker, which is someone he has to negotiate on. whether they like each other personally or have much in common, that doesn't really matter. whether democrats are investigating him, that doesn't matter. he's going to need them on key issues, including his trade deal with canada and mexico, on raising the debt limit, on keeping the government operating. those a-r all things that have to happen before the end of the year. this kind of outlandish behavior in terms of tweeting altered video certainly doesn't help the prospects there. >> if he's unwilling to work with them because the investigations are going on, that's giving nancy pelosi more and more reason to argue we may need to head towards impeachment here. i want to play a bit of what npr
had to say about this feud with brian williams. >> i'm not a psychologist, but it seems this president seems to hit on issues that people come to him on. >> it's been said about him. >> when his own competence is questioned, he insists he's a stable genius, at the same time he has to paint his adversaries as what he's being accused of. >> i'm crazy. no, you're crazy, jackie. what do you think? >> i think what trump is doing executively here which is what nancy pelosi was encouraging her caucus not to do. these big dueling ideas taking place in the caucus. she thinks, along with some of her leadership, impeachment is a really big distraction and the president would much rather be having these really caustic and petty fights playing out on national television as opposed to talking about the crisis in venezuela, north korea and iran and the lack of a health care
bill. you know, and then this idea that she's sort of fighting against with her caucus, which is we need to impeach the president. it's our duty to uphold the constitution and these are unprecedented, you know, stonewalling coming from the white house here. so, i think what we saw yesterday was pelosi really, you know, digging into that fight. she is trying to hold the line here while also appeasing a big part of per caucus that is clamoring for impeachment. as we pointed out in "power up" this morning, there are 43 vulnerable democrats who helped deliver the house majority and only three of those people actually have called to initiate impeachment proceedings against the president. so, that is the political reality that she's facing right now. >> the thank you so much. i should note, while we're saying nothing is getting done, yesterday there was some bipartisanship. we saw the senate pass a bill on disaster relief. we know that's much needed.
next place it goes to vote is the house. coming up, the chinese company you may not have heard of before this trade war but a company trying to change the way you communicate and control the future of the internet. andrew ross sorkin joins us next. first, special counsel robert mueller is telling the house judiciary he does not want to testify before tv cameras on capitol hill. jerry nadler breaking that news here on msnbc, saying mueller wants a closed-door meeting as well. >> we're saying he ought to -- we i think it's important for the american people to hear from him and to hear from his answers to questions about the report. >> does he want to testify in private and have it be a closed session where we, the people, would not even get to see a transcript? >> no, no, we'd see a transcript, but i -- we'd see a transcript. -- we'd see a transcript nothing says summer like a beach trip,
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huawei. the biggest manufacturer of smartphones in your pocket. this company has also been accused of working with the chinese government to spy on its users. that has led the united states to ban american firms from doing business with huawei and more are following suit. companies in britain and japan are also suspending work with the chinese telecom giant. i want to bring in andrew ross sorkin, cnbc anchor. people have criticized president trump for using tariffs, saying it doesn't make sense but this move against huawei is different. is it a good one? >> i think there's a question whether it's different or not. there's a trade war taking place on one end and a national security question on another end. to some degree you can make an argument they are now being conflated and, in fact, this national security concern around huawei is being used as a pawn or a chess piece in this larger
trade war game. >> if that's the case, isn't that unfortunate because the national security piece, the huawei piece, is the piece that so many people across the political spectrum hear and abroad support as opposed to the tariffs, which has much less support. >> 100%. yesterday the president made this comment that it was a national security threat, but maybe we can work something out as part of the trade deal. well, it's either one thing or the other. either it's a trade situation or it's a national security situation. having said that, here is the issue. the united states is woefully and disgracefully behind when it comes to 5g technology. this is the next generation version of what's on your phone right now, 4g. we are nowhere to be found when it comes to the cell towers, devices that are ultimately needed. huawei and china way ahead of the game. the only competitor really to huawei is not a u.s. company.
it's a company called ericsson. that's what's going on competitively. we're behind there. that's part of the trade piece. and then there's the national security piece, which is, huaweis huawei s ost tensably controlled by the chinese government, even though they say they aren't using it for spy, could potentially over time use it for spying. if they're everywhere in europe, asia, everywhere in africa, guess what, you have a security problem. >> we are why hyped in the 5g rollout. who does it matter to? >> it matters to our economy writ large. right now 5g technology -- even go back, 4g technology was a revolution. not just in the telecommunications space. it created jobs. it created jobs in the media business. it creates all sorts of things. when you think about 5g, it's more important because people
talk about the internet of things. all of a sudden 5g is going to control autonomous vehicles. it's going to be involved in factory floors. it's going to be involved in everything. so, for us to have an advantage or even to be on pace is important. >> then good on the president for going after this. if we need to get on track as it relates to 5g, if huawei is not an honest player and if they're working with the chinese government, isn't this the money shot? isn't this what the president should 100% focus on and not use this as a ba are beginning chip -- >> so, i would say yes but not from a competitive perspective. meaning we need a 5g strategy nationally. we do not have a meaningful strategy on 5g. if you want to talk about it as a national security issue, it's a real one. let's be honest about this. it's no more a national security issue for us as intel in cisco or boeing might be a national security issue for china, right?
so, i mean, this plays out -- >> but that's not true. that's not true. think about the way the chinese government operates with corporations versus the united states government and our corporations. come on. >> the only point i'd made there, though, is there is yet to be meaningful information that huawei has installed spying devices on the united states on any meaningful way. we had secretary pompeo on yesterday. we asked this specific question -- >> i have that sound. >> if you're a state-directed business and you take on subsidies from the chinese government, there's no doubt you can make real hay. when you show up not only with low cost, affordable product, but engage in behavior that the foreign corrupt practices act would prevent, yeah, you can get a little bit of foothold. >> so, that was the answer. we have not gotten a real answer, though, to describe if there are actual real examples. that's not to say there's a potential risk. there is a real potential risk
that huawei is -- will or could become a national security threat. right this second, i think it's a little harder argument to make. then the flipside becomes the trade question, which is, are you saying, okay, if we slow huawei down, we're somehow giving time to u.s. companies to fill the void. unclear whether we're going to be able to do that without the true 5g national strategy. that's why there's multiple things going on. it's a very nuanced issue. >> complicated issue. i want to bring one of our next guests in on this. presidential candidate andrew. do you believe the. the is on the right track, at least as it relates to huawei? we'll leave the tariffs in another category. >> i agree with andrew, this is a nuanced issue. the danger here is that this new move ends up making huawei and the chinese ecosystem more independent, which will have real minuses for the u.s. over time.
it's a very different landscape if chinese tech companies feel he had don't need google software in order to compete in their own market and internationally. it's a very dramatic move. i'm not sure if i think this is a good move long-term for the u.s. >> andrew ross sorkin, thank you so much. >> appreciate it. >> andrew yang, you better stick around. when we come back, we're going to talk about one of the new "new york times" pieces, very prolific op-ed by brett stevens. it's getting a lot of pushback. mr. stevens wrote about millenials. he thinks they need to grow up. we'll find out what mr. yang thinks. ers. introducing the all-new 2019 ford ranger, it's the right gear. with a terrain management system for... this. a bash plate for... that. an electronic locking rear differential for... yeah... this. heading to the supermarket? get any truck. heading out here? get the ford ranger.
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are. with just over 500 days until the 2020 election, democrats are likely to see the youngest generation of voters as their most secure bloc of supporters. in fact, the numbers show nearly 60% of voters born in the '80s and '90s are leaning democrat. what if the government they are really looking for is not one represented by either party. i want to bring in andrew yang and brett stevens, "new york times" op-ed columnist who wrote about millenials in his latest column. i spoke to a harvard pollster this week who said 40% of young people oppose capitalism in its current form and the majority supported some democratic socialist ideas or principles, like a jobs guarantee, free
college. does that match what you're hearing from voters? because is it just some ideas or do they want a serious revolution? >> well-being young people in particular have grown up in an area of mountain of student loan debts, a very insecure job market. they've seen capitalism at its worst since the financial crisis. so, it's not just them. when i talk to voters in iowa and ohio and new hampshire, there's a real dissatisfaction with our current economic system and the way people are experiencing it on the ground. >> i get it. they're not happy. but these don't sound like tweaks. these sound, brett, like they want sweeping changes. are millenials and the next generation a big enough voting bloc that they could actually change the way our country runs? >> well, i mean, it's about 80 million or so millenials so it's the biggest voting bloc generation since the baby boomers. the only thing is, you know, you should be careful what you wish for. there are problems with policy
proposals that sound fantastic on paper. when you say free college, that sounds like a great idea until you encounter what free colleges look like throughout much of europe. you know, it's also worth bearing in mind. i mean, i know there's a lot of talk about all of the challenges millenials face and some are quite real. we have an unemployment rate, which is the lowest it's been in 50 years, all right. we have productivity growth. now, i'm not denying there are serious structural problems to the economy, but when you look at economies that have the sort of entitlements or features that some democratic socialists claim to want, what you find are very high levels of unemployment and sometimes stratospheric levels of youth unemployment. it's just a matter of being educated what these proposals can wind up becoming. >> is it an issue we're making it either/or. it's capitalist in column "a," socialist in column "b."
if they were easy to solve, we wouldn't be plagued by income inequality. >> i couldn't agree more. our economic discussion right now is about using 20th century solutions for 20th century problems. the economy we're in the midst of right now is transforming at an historic rate. experts are calling it the fourth industrial revolution. i say we need to allow the next form of our economy, which i call human centered capitalism, which is taking the best of markets and moving them towards mental health, childhood success rate, our health and life expectancies are developing. gdp is record high. also record high suicides, drug overdoses and our life expectancy has declined for three straight years which is almost unprecedented in a developed country. >> when you talk about universal income. this is something you stand behind. it very much seems to go against
the entrepreneurial spirit that true market-based capitalists would go for. >> it's very pro-entrepreneurship. imagine how many people would start a business if they were getting $1,000 a month under my plan. >> is that realistic realistic. >> we can afford a dividend of $1,000 a month and an enormous catalyst to arts, creativity, care giving, nurturing a lot of things right now the market doesn't support at a high enough level and give young people a genuine leg up in the economy. because right now they're angry. they look up and say, wait, 44% chance i'm going to do a job that doesn't require a college degree. so, why am i supposed to be celebrating these economic numbers with no relationship to my life. >> can i ask a quick question? >> of course you can. >> what gives in your plan? you're offering a huge new chunk of money to universal, is anything taken away? >> well, if you look, who is the mammoth set of winners in this economy?
amazon, google, facebook. amazon paid zero in federal taxes last year. if something is going to give, we create a mechanism where amazon is paying more in taxes than you are. >> and what makes one thing that we can change that? right. the government is working as it's currently designed to work. it doesn't work for everyone. we have massive political donors. we have massive lobbying efforts and they seem to get what they want. that is how our government is currently designed. >> that is the problem. >> how are you going to change that? >> well, i'm running for president and you put me in the oval office and then we issue 100 democracy dollars to every american citizen. they can give to any candidate or campaign, that would wash out the lobbyist cash by a factor of six to one and put tax on companies like amazon that should pay for their fair share. all those workers need some place to go. so, we need to rebalance the economy. we need to retake our democracy for the people and that's what these young people are looking
up and saying, nothing in it for me. my voice doesn't matter that much. they will vote in droves in 2020 and hopefully change this economy so it is fair to them. >> they're going to vote in droves and a lot of them didn't like your last column or you're talking about millennials and the people who choose the presidents in this country want to see donald trump lose next year, but not if it means empowering the junior to the left. >> this was a poll, just to be clear, the column specifies i'm not talking about 80 million millennials or the gen-z generation behind them. i'm talking about a subset of people that are the self right voices on twitter and social media and on a lot of our most elite college campuses which is to say some of the most
privilege people around who are, for example, waging campaigns against an african-american professor because he had the temerity to join harvey weinstein's defense team and they hold views different from them. and i think democrats have -- >> there were potentially other issues with that professor. >> there are always, look, there are always other issues. but i think the democrats have to be aware they should be a party that stands for free speech and unpopular views. we have a sixth amendment in this country for a reason and we should, college students in particular, should support it. it's a very unattractive side of the democratic party and god forbid it's going to drive voters into the arms of donald trump if they become more prominent than they are. >> well, i think that the situations on college catmpuses are different than the situation with joe biden. no one is calling for joe biden to be fired from his job.
and joe biden is running for president and fair for young people to say, look, if you don't empathize with my situation and point of view, i'll vote for someone else. college campuses are calling for deans and professors to be removed for something that they disagree with. >> sure. that's a perfectly fine point. joe biden made a perfectly sensible point which is to say that self-pity is not a good look for any generation. his point was simply the generations have to take the problems in their hands and address the issues that concern them. it resurfaced on twitter and caused this ruckus and it was worth defending. an aspect of the progressive movement that doesn't simply want to criticize. it wants to destroy the people it doesn't like. >> if this portion of the left is too idealistic, too demanding on the perfect world they are
looking for or the perfect candidate, are they going to send us universally right into donald trump's arms? is that fair? >> well, it's dumbed down, sure. >> there you go. >> i don't believe so. i think there is a lot of passion idealism among this group of young people. if you look up, again, they're being left in the shambles of an environment. they're doing drills in schools about whether or not they're going to be safe from shooters and they're looking up and saying, what the heck is going on. if they think the old guard leadership that joe biden represents they wouldn't be in these predicaments. >> the students that screamed at him at yale because his wife stood up for free speech in relation to halloween costumes. that's not the segment we're talking about. we're talking about a very privileged segment of america that are going on to bright futures and asserting themselves in ways that are often
frightening against people who are expressing perfectly legitimate views. if they become the face of the millennial generation, which i hope they do not, and the face of the democratic party or driving part of it. if twitter, twitter democrats become the democratic party, it's going to turn a lot of americans off. >> we know. we know from the most recent pew poll that electorate democrats are not the same thing. the question is, who are candidates going to listen to? andrew, bret, thank you. so much going on. i'm coming back for another hour to keep digging deeper into the big stories of the day and what they mean to you. a closer look at that altered video of speaker pelosi and the technology that threatens all of our ability to distinguish truth from fiction. that is what this is about. this is not about nancy pelosi. it is about that video in our lives. stick around. run with us. on a john deere z500 series mower. built to mow better, faster.
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