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i'm on time for once. my colleague kendis gibson will pick up the coverage from here. >> you're even early. >> i'm going to start talking right now. >> we have a very busy day ahead. have a great day, alex. hi, everybody, i'm kendis gibson. a super weekend in california from the tense moments when a man grabs kamala harris' microphone, the impeachment battle cry that reigned down on nancy pelosi, and cory booker going it alone on gun violence. plus the emailed message a gunman sent to his boss just hours before he killed 12 people at a government building in virginia beach. and trump under siege. why critics are snuffing out the fire and fury of michael wolff's new tell-all book before it hits shelves this tuesday. but we are going to begin with some major and in some cases scary moments on the campaign trail this weekend. you had some 14 candidates who converged on california for the
state's democratic convention, but it was the passionate plea of one senator and a security scare involving another that took center stage. >> this white house has literally, literally a bully pulpit. it's wrong and it is immoral what they're doing. >> it is time that we come together and stand together. >> some clips from the weekend there that was. so joining me to break it all down is our own road warrior shaquille brewster. i do want to start with that scary, scary moment, as it was, for kamala harris. you were there inside that room as it all played out. take us through it. >> reporter: well, it was really a tense moment there. before we even go there, i spoke to some attendees here at the democratic state convention in california and they say they fear for the lives of these candidates when they see moments like this. just to set it up, it was yesterday at the move on ideas forum. senator harris, as every
candidate there was tasked to do, they were tasked on presenting their own big idea. senator harris presented her idea on pay equity. then she was taking questions from the moderators, including our msnbc political commentator there, karine. during that question period is when a gentleman started approaching the stage. it happened very slowly. he jumped on the stage that was about five feet high. he got on stage, was able to take the microphone from senator harris. there was a little scuffle going on. the gentleman was removed and senator harris left the stage and came back. moveon.org released a statement apologizing to senator harris. they said we sincerely regret that a protester was able to gain access to the stage at our forum today and we apologize to senator kamala harris. the protester was removed and the program resumed. i will say that senator harris, we reached out to the campaign, and they do not comment on her security arrangements or security incidents, but it was obviously a scary moment there
in that move on big ideas forum. >> this guy did have a press badge, but that said, many people as you're entering these forums, do you have to go through security as well? >> reporter: yes. and there were metal detectors as you were walking in. this was about 300 people at this event, it was a big theater. these are move on members, so a lot of activists. he did have that press badge. it's not clear exactly how he got that or how he got in, but most of the people in that room were checked for metals. they did get wanded down, so there was a security presence, though there was that delay in getting the protester off the stage. >> who are among those speaking today at the convention? >> reporter: well, bernie sanders just got off the stage, julian castro actually was just speaking right before i came on with you. i will say with bernie sanders, one thing that did stick out was he made pretty much his most direct contrast against joe biden, against vice president
biden. he said that -- he made a point to say there's a debate going on in the democratic party. as you know, joe biden is not here. he said that debate is happening between candidates speaking to the crowd here but also among candidates not in this room. he said there's no middle ground on issues like climate change, on issues like health care. it was a direct reference to vice president biden. they do want to draw contrasts between senator sanders and vice president biden. >> shaquille brewster joining us there from san francisco where there was never a dull moment. i do want to bring in the panel, aisha and michael steele, a former rnc chairman and msnbc political analyst. appreciate you guys being here. before we get to all of that, i want us to pop up that video from the very start and i'm going to time this out. so pop up the video from kamala
harris' incident that took place in san francisco. any second. all right. well, we saw the incident. it took several, several seconds is what i was trying to get to before anybody got there on stage. you guys were tweeting about it. that was a scary, scary moment. >> it was absolutely frightening and ridiculous. where was the security? the fact that they say that this gentleman was lurking and he was slowly making his way and no one paid attention and saw him coming towards the stage. when he got there, it took forever for some other guys to jump from out of the audience onto the stage to even grab him, so i don't know where the formal folks were. but shoutout to karine jean-pierre who was like not today, bro, not today. she tried to separate him from senator harris. you know, this brings up a remarkable kind of moment in time where we are so frightened for our public leaders.
literally anything could happen to them. that there needs to be such intense security. i think that the rhetoric that's happening today, the rhetoric that's coming from the president, just the volatility of our political discourse is creating a condition right now where we can't -- we can't be free to share ideas without fear from persecution and what those ideas are. >> it took about 14 seconds or so before anybody touched this guy to get him offstage. that is frightening, michael steele. a lot of people were asking that many of these candidates should have security at this point. >> well, a couple of things. first off, i want to go back with the comment about our girl, karine, who was like huh-uh, no, no, body slam on the way, baby. >> you know what we're not going to do today? this. >> so i have to give props to her. she was in the moment, she understood what was happening and responded. it says a lot about at this stage of the political process how in venues that you're
comfortable with or venues where you think you've got just your crowd there with you who are going to be supportive of you, the security tends to be a little bit more lax, it tends to be a little less rigorous. i suspect that will change certainly was we get closer to and certainly after the first presidential debate among the democrats. but it is a signal to organizers and planners and especially the campaigns that you've got to take into account security as a big part of what we're doing. very much to aisha's point, this environment is one, it doesn't matter whether you wear a maga hat or moveon.org hat, this environment is very volatile. you don't know where the response is going to come from and you've got to be prepared for that. >> it is very toxic as well. so, guys, let's move on because a convention is happening there in california. it is a very, very big convention. cory booker kind of had like a stand out moment there by addressing gun violence.
here's a listen to what he had to say. >> i want to talk about just for a second we had another mass shooting in america yesterday. and these cannot just go on in our country. we used to be a nation that when four girls were killed in a bombing in birmingham, we changed laws. when women were killed in the shirt waist factory fire, we changed laws. we are seeing too much death in our country which reminds us of the most important big idea which isn't new. before i get to mine, i want to repeat that because that's why we're here. >> michael, i do want to start with you on this, because you are the republican in the house here on this. could this be a winning argument for many democrats running? >> you know, i think it remains to be seen. i applaud cory for finding the moment and rising in it, to focus and refocus the nation's attention on yet another mass shooting taking the life of 12
people in a community that, you know, is now devastated and having to deal with this. the country looks on these things and then we move on from them. so i thought it was a seminal moment and opportunity for him and his campaign. certainly try to set the politics aside a little bit. he wants to be president and he's calling us to think about these things in a big way. now, whether or not that translates into a broader discussion on gun control remains to be seen and to see whether or not he's capable of galvanizing around that and addressing the gun issue. but i applaud him for exactly taking the moment and sort of saying, look, we're not going to just move on from this, we need to focus on -- you know, we've had big ideas in this space that we have not acted on. you're asking for another big idea. well, let's deal with the ones that have come before in this area so we can begin to get a handle on people killing one another in their neighborhoods and in their communities. >> i'll tell you the big idea
that got a lot of applause yesterday amongst the candidates was whenever they mentioned impeachment. we'll get to that in a second. joe biden of course was not among the 14 that were there. he was actually in columbus, ohio, at another event. here's another clip of what he had to say. >> it's an idea, an idea that says that we are about providing everybody who's here an access to dignity and respect. and you know, it's beneath the leadership that we have in the white house. they're on the wrong side of history. >> you kind of get a sense, even by him not being at the forum, that he's trying to make this seem as if a one-on-one race between him and trump and ignoring the dozen or two dozen people that are there. >> well, he is, because he's the front-runner right now. and so he's having a conversation that's directly about his contrast with the president because he thinks that he's going to be the democratic
nominee and that's how he's running. i also want to remind people that he made a calculated decision to go and be where his people were on that same night. in california, there are a lot of progressives, not necessarily joe biden's core base. but if you remember, the lgbtq community loves joe biden because he came out in support of marriage equality. and really we think pulled president obama. and we will always remember him and appreciate him for that. so the fact that he was at the human rights campaign having a conversation about the 50th anniversary of stonewall felt meaningful and that he was with his people. so i know california is upset, but i think it made sense for the campaign. >> we'll delve into that later on, what impact that has on the votes itself. michael, do you think it's a mistake that he went to columbus instead of going out to california? >> no, i don't. i think aisha is absolutely right. joe biden is going to be talking to a lot of people across the country. yes, he's got some issues on his
left flank that he will have to deal with, but he also recognizes those moments where he can reinforce and solidify his strength in the democratic primary right now. what he did in ohio is smart politics because it goes to where you're going to need to go win. you're going to have to pull those votes out of ohio. you're going to have to show that you can reach that part of the country, particularly when you're speaking to the lgbtq community in that neighborhood, if you will. he can go to california, it doesn't dismiss california, but you've got to be hunker down that center left and center right because that's the battleground next november. >> a lot of candidates put out speeches or put out statements regarding pride, joe biden was the only one, including mayor pete, who was actually there. he was the only one who went. michael steele, appreciate your wisdom on this sunday.
thank you. aisha, stick around with us. we are only 24 days away from the first presidential debate of the 2020 election cycle. the primetime event will be june 26th and 27th in miami. it will be broadcast live across nbc news, msnbc, telemundo and streamed as well on digital. we are going to move on to the latest developments in the devastating shooting out of virginia beach. we just learned that the gunman in that horrific act sent an email resignation just hours before he opened fire at that government office building killing 12 people and injuring several others. nbc's ron allen is outside of the hospital where some of those victims remain. virginia beach officials gave an update a short time ago and we learned quite a bit from that. >> reporter: yes, kendis, the biggest thing was that the gunman had resigned that morning. we didn't know that. this suggests that there was a motive, that there was something going on at his place of employment that he wasn't happy about and that that was part of the motive.
but the authorities will not necessarily put all the dots together and make the connection. we also know that many of the people who died that day were people who worked in his own department. we don't know why he was resigning. we asked and the authorities said that there was no disciplinary hearing under way, no disciplinary process. they kept making a point that he had not been terminated, that he had not been fired, so that was not an issue, at least in their minds it wasn't. so we're beginning to understand a bit more about why this may have happened, but of course it's all still very senseless. the authorities also put together a timeline a bit more of what happened, emphasizing that the first officers arrived within two minutes of the first call, the 911 call. emphasizing that the whole episode, the entire ordeal, took about 36 minutes. that the gun fight between the police and the gunman took about five or eight minutes, which in police terms is a really
eternity. there's a lot of bullets flying. they also cornered the gunman at an office and he was firing at them behind doors and walls and through walls and that's how this whole situation essentially ended and that he was taken alive and captured and apparently died on the way to the hospital, and that the first responders who were there also rendered first aid to this gunman who had just carried out this heinous massacre. but the authorities who were there still tried to save his life. so a lot of dramatic developments here today, kendis. >> city officials point out even though they tried to kill him, they tried to save him. ron allen in virginia beach, thank you. still to come, trump's european with world leaders hold their breath. it's already off to a rocky start before even leaving the united states because of his comments over meghan markle. plus it's pride month. politicians and the president marking the occasion, shall we
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d.c. what are the expectations for this visit? >> well, i mean the expectations certainly are not a welcome for president trump by the british population at large. to risk repurposing a phrase from billy conley, mr. trump is about as welcome as a fart in a space suit in britain. he's deeply unpopular there. his popularity is in the 20s. he has burned theresa may so many times it's surprising she doesn't have scorch marks and so we expect fairly significant protests against donald trump probably on tuesday. >> i think that's a career first, that description right there. it was a very silent but deadly description. let's go to london because as we mentioned, niall gardner, there has been a dust-up involving meghan markle. we already see his poll numbers there in london are fairly low. how is this being received
there, his trip over there? >> well, i think the president's visit to london is very, very big deal. it's dominating the newspapers here in london. there's intense interest in what the president will have to say throughout the remainder of the week on brexit especially and looking ahead to the post-theresa may era. and so, you know, what everyone thinks of the president here in london, i think that everyone is acknowledging this is a very, very big trip for the united kingdom and you are going to have some demonstrations certainly on the streets of london, as expected. i don't think those demonstrations are going to be very large demonstrations, but they certainly will be protesters on the streets. but at the end of the day, president trump is britain's closest friend and ally on the world stage. he is a huge supporter of brexit. he's somebody who deeply believes in the u.s./uk special relationship, and i think there are many people here in the united kingdom who are going to pay very close attention to
every word the president says. on the brexit side -- >> wait, wait, wait, he's polling 21% in the uk. >> you know, i think that, if you look at the numbers in terms of public opinion with regard president trump, they divide a lot based upon the general public's views of brexit. there is very strong support for president trump among brexiteers. i think that's a fair breakdown of where the british public is. >> if that means 21% of the brits are in favor of brexit as opposed to 70 plus, which is what the poll numbers president trump has there. >> no, that's not what i was saying there okay. >> okay, go ahead, clarify. >> yeah. i think that the point i'm making is that very strong
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an article says he undermined and bullied her now that she's on her way out. what do you make of that? >> it's certainly the case that president trump has always said that theresa may has essentially played too soft a game with the eu. he believes in typical trumpian fashion that she could have just told them to go to hell essentially. britain would pull out and that would be that. most people don't think that's valuable. a crashing out brexit does not appear as if it's possible to command a majority in the british house of commons. as i said, he has burned theresa may a number of times, undercutting her, praising boris johnson not just on this occasion but on a previous visit just after mr. johnson had resigned from theresa may's government. so that relationship is a very tense one. theresa may was the first foreign leader to visit president trump in washington.
no sooner had that happened than he announced the muslim ban, the travel ban, and theresa may was politically damaged at home as a result. >> we'll have to leave it there, thank you both for your time. we'll look forward to the president's visit. he leaves the u.s. around 8:00 p.m. eastern time. up next, a growing chorus. >> i told you, this -- >> the crowd chants "impeach" at speaker pelosi but top democrats are saying not so fast. what a new poll says about the politicians and the base. the politicians and the base
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brand new polling today shows an increasing number of americans want the president to be impeached. special counsel robert mueller's first public statement did seem like it was pushing congress toward the president's impeachment but top democrats are still pumping the brakes. >> it's a dirty word, the word "impeach." it's a dirty, filthy, disgusting word. >> the mueller report revealed that the president's campaign welcomed russian interference in the election and the report lays out 11 instances of possible obstruction of justice by the
president of the united states. >> it sounds like you think that the president will be impeached, or at least proceedings will begin in the house at some point, but just not right now? >> yes, that's exactly what i feel. i think we've already begun. >> some people say if you move to an impeachment inquiry that's going to help the president. some people say on the contrary, if you don't, you're going to demoralize our base and we're going to look like we don't know what we stand for. >> are you expecting impeachment proceedings? >> well, i wouldn't know where there would be. >> we do believe that if we sufficiently, effectively educate the public, then we will have done our job and we can move on an improvement vote. >> and we should note in the cnn poll this week of more than 1,000 voters, it found 76% of democratic voters are now in favor of impeaching trump and removing him from office. that's up 7% from last month.
on capitol hill, a total of 55 house lawmakers want congress to either start impeachment proceedings or inquiries, but there are heightened concerns over whether washington is doing enough to please the democratic base. mike vacarro is live in washington with where congress stands on impeachment. mike, what are we expecting from congress this week? >> reporter: good afternoon. it's remarkable to see nancy pelosi in her hometown where he's been elected every two years to represent san francisco and is now the speaker of the house being heckled by the left because she is not pushing for impeachment nancy pelosi is used to this in san francisco, she usually has a challenger from her left who she defeats handily. but look, the thing that people miss about this, and i covered nancy pelosi for 12 years in the house, is nancy pelosi or any other congressional leader in
congress thinks like this. how am i going to expand my majority? how am i going to expand the numbers in my party in the house or the senate come the next election. and nancy pelosi and james clyburn, notwithstanding what james clyburn was saying earlier today, they have made the calculation that if you let the air out of the balloon now and you try to impeach the president, obviously they would be successful in the house, very big problem getting him convicted in the senate. then you're taking the air out of the balloon before the midterm elections some 17 months from now and they believe simply in the long-term scheme of things, it's more important for them to expand their numbers in 2020 and defeat president trump for re-election in 2020. they think that's the smartest play right now. ken kend is. >> it was quite something seeing nancy pelosi getting heckled in
san francisco. for more on this let's bring in former assistant watergate prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst, nick akerman and msnbc contributor, natasha bertrand and politico congress reporter melanie zinona. melanie, where does president stand on impeachment? >> well, the impeachment calls are growing in the democratic caucus. just this week we saw a dozen new democrats jump on the bandwagon after mueller spoke for the first time publicly. even though he didn't say anything new, he just reiterated what was in the report, it shows how powerful it was to hear directly from him saying i wasn't able to bring these charges, it's essentially up to congress. now, that being said, one person who has not moved on this issue is nancy pelosi, as we saw when she addressed the california state democratic party. that's because the american public is still not on the side of impeachment and she is looking out for her moderate
lawmakers, those democrats who flipped those red seats. so far we only see one of them, tom malinowski of new jersey, call for impeachment. while there are over 50 democrats calling for impeachment and that is significant, it is still the minority view in the caucus. >> but the numbers are growing at least among the public, 41% supporting impeachment, up a little from last month. nick, in your piece in "the daily news" you say that mueller destroyed trump's lies in his public statement. how so? >> he destroyed it because basically trump has been saying since barr came out with his so-called summary of the mueller report that he was exonerated and there was no collusion. basically mueller came out and said that the only reason he didn't conclude that trump committed any crimes was because he was hemmed in by the department of justice policy that doesn't allow a sitting president to be indicted. so he basically got up there and
went through a summary of his own of that report, basically making it clear that he found a number -- that russia interfered with the election, that the idea that he exonerated trump in any way was a total misstatement, and it basically just put the issue back on the table. the problem we have is that most people in this country have not read the 400-plus pages of the mueller report. >> including members of congress. >> including members of congress. and really what you've got in that report of criminal ity. one is the obstruction of justice. the other is the break in of the democratic national committee and the other is the use of social media to suppress the hillary clinton vote. congress has got to bring that to life. just as james clyburn said, they have got to be educated.
you've got to bring in witnesses to make that report become real. >> natasha, as you know "the new york times" is counting some 54 house democrats who support impeachment. 56 are either undecided or not yet supporting this and 125 have yet to issue a response. but a majority of the 2020 field is pushing for congress to officially launch hearings against trump. how does it look if 2020 candidates seem to be more concerned with holding trump accountable instead of those other colleagues on capitol hill? >> look, they're in a very different position obviously. they are campaigning for the primaries, in which you campaign mostly on more partisan issues. right now impeachment doesn't seem to be something supported by the majority of americans but it is certainly supported by the majority of democratic voters so that is something they want to appeal to. nancy pelosi is worried about the independents and how they might react to an impeachment proceeding and whether or not trump can bring them over in
2020 as a result of congress being focused on those hearings. on the other hand, the argument the democrats seem to be making really doesn't make much sense. trump is trying to convince the democrats, i think, that it would be really good for his voters and for his base and for his 2020 re-election chances if he were to be impeached. but on the flip side of that, he seems to be extremely worried about the prospect of being impeached because he knows that is a mark that will just brand him for the rest of his life. we always remember the presidents that have been impeached throughout history, even though most people can't name the presidents -- every single president. we can name the ones that were impeached, so that is something that would stay with trump. his reaction last week when he was asked about reporters how do you feel about the prospect that you might be impeached, it was visceral. he said it's a filthy word, i don't even want to talk about it. i would go to the supreme court. this is not something he wants. as i said earlier this morning,
it's really just basic psychology at this point that democrats can't be falling into this trap. >> but he does want re-election so there is that. if this riles up his base, i'm sure he'll be happy about it. justin amash of course the only republican calling for impeachment. he was making the rounds in his michigan district this week. he got this reaction. >> thank you. thanks. >> so, melanie, as you take a look at this and you see this sort of reaction for the only republican that has called for impeachment, do you get a sense that maybe there might be some others who might join amash? >> yes. it was remarkable. i flew out to grand rapids, i was there in the district. not a lot of us knew what to expect. this was his first time facing voters after calling for impeachment, which is a remarkable act of defiance, and he was greeted with a standing ovation.
people were trying to snap selfies with him and shake his hand before the event. i don't think other republicans are going to be rushing to join him. they haven't thus far. justin amash is a lone wolf in congress. he's always gone against the grain. i think the question is whether democrats will look at this and say maybe there is a political upside to calling for impeachment. he is in a republican-leaning district in michigan, a critical swing state, so you have to wonder how other democrats will go for this. i talked to some of the constituents and they said i wish democrats would go this far. some of them identified as democrats, others republican, but they all said they wish democrats would go as far as justin amash did. i think it ups the pressure on democrats right now. >> all right, we have to leave it there, guys, i ran out of time. nick, thank you for your time, natasha and melanie, thank you. fire and fury turns into a siege.
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author michael wolff is back with "siege," a new book depicting a chaotic trump white house after releasing "fire and fury" last year. his newest tell-all is hitting the shelves this tuesday but the media and critics already widely panning it. a review in "the washington post" is slamming wolff for overrelying on a single character, factual errors that mar the author's credibility. my next guest warns that wolff's anonymous sources raises questions about the book's essential lack of verifiability. joining me is ron elving, npr's senior washington editor and correspondent. ron, you wrote that in this case
the single most newsworthy item in "siege" has already been called into question. which is? >> which was an indictment that michael wolff said had been prepared for robert mueller to actually indict the president back in 2018. just a few months after the investigation had begun and a full year before the mueller report was actually filed. there actually was not an indictment that was prepared, although michael wolff has an extensive explanation for what he's talking about in a 56-page legal memorandum, as he calls it, an explanation for what he originally wrote. what he originally wrote was denied by the office of robert mueller who said that the documents that michael wolff was describing did not exist. >> the special counsel releasing a rare statement prior to his speech on wednesday saying that the documents did not exist, as you said. we should note that wolff's publisher stands by its author.
wolf told "the new york times," quote, my source is impeccable and i have no doubt about the authenticity and the significance of the documents that i have. so what does it say about wolff's credibility at the end of the day? and this book? >> michael wolff has also told npr that he has an explanation for why the office of special counsel has said the documents as described did not exist, and there is more to this than that, which will be coming out as people see the actual book and michael wolff has more of an explanation than is contained in the book itself. but it does start the book off on the wrong foot, if you will. the first book, "fire and fury" was often questioned because its sources were unnamed. in that book he was basing a lot of his writing on his personal observation inside the white house, for weeks in the early going of the trump administration. that's all gone and we're strictly talking to sources, with the exception of one big source who's all over the book,
steve bannon. apart from that, the rest of these people are pretty much anonymous. >> interesting, that it's about 315 pages, smaller than the mueller report. a lot of people calling it purification. what do you call it? >> i would not call it pure fiction. there is a great deal of things that are verifiable, things that happened in plain sight. but because of that heavy reliance on unnamed sources, we're always going to be wondering, michael wolff trusts these people but why should we trust michael wolff? the account itself is going to read quite plausibly. they can say i can imagine donald trump saying that or i can imagine donald trump saying that. michael wolff says he's talked to some of those people that the president is talking to at midnight and they have told him what the president says. and if we believe michael wolff, then we're getting kind of a pipeline into the president's late-night consciousness. >> the president has been very good for the publishing industry. our thanks to ron elving from
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they're doing. >> joe biden kicking off pride month in ohio last night. and this year takes on greater significance because it's been 50 years since the stonewall rights triggered the modern-day movement and this weekend several 2020 democratic candidates expressing their support of gay rights as you can see there. for the first time since getting to office, president trump's twitter feed with a message for pride month that didn't go over well. joining me is my guests. thank you all for being me. let's talk about the power with you guys of the gay vote here in to -- 2020.
>> we have a president to rescind obama-era protections for lgbtq students. another action to kick transgender people out of the military. right? so this president and this entire administration who with his vice president who believes in conversion therapy has been an enemy of the lgbtq community so the audacity of him to get on twitter and wish anybody a happy anything related to pride is audacious and shows how out of step he is. >> i want to show you in fact in the last few months and years, when it comes to this issue and get jonathan, your reaction. you have the transgender military ban, the roll back on obama era regulation extending health care protections of transgender, told the supreme court that federal law doesn't protect transgender people, weak weaken protections, remove title
ix protections for transgender youth and goes on and on and on. do you feel as if the movement steps back in the last two years? >> it is amazing where we are at this moment in our country and seems like we are under attack, it is also an important moment of coming together for our community. you asked about the vote and how not monolithic it is. but what's so special is lgbtq people at the intersection of america. their issues are our issues and vice versa. >> but are they the president's issues? >> well, they don't seem to be the administration's issues but ironically this is an administration full of business leaders and if there's one thing that we have learned in the community, it is diversity is good for business and if the administration wants the economy
to thrive they have to make sure america's employees are free to work and travel, business owners all 1.4 million of them and trillion of dollars added to the economy are free to thrive in this country an not looking over the shoulder. >> you're saying he should note the green in the pride flag? >> business leaders generally care and all the peep that the people that this president hate lgbtq people. including the vice president of the united states, they are completely home foeb ib. -- homephobic. it is about the gay vote for sure and all of us to come out to the polls and the vast amount of americans support diversity, too. we are seeing straight people don't have time for this administration's foolishness and bigotry against the community either.
>> and as you guys all have pointed out, not a monolithic group whatsoever and you have the first major, major presidential candidate who is polling fairly well. >> yeah. >> in the 2020 race. he's there on the cover of "time" magazine. 50 years after stonewall. did any of you all think this would be where we are? >> no. it's not but i think that i -- it really isn't because i think after marriage equality passed, we felt like we were seen and the invisibility cloak on the community lifted. the idea that pete butte gig is on the cover and applauded and cheered is exciting. it is a moment for us and it's a push back and a direct pushback against donald trump. >> jonathan, really quickly, i mean, are they doing the right thing to get the vote here? as we have pointed out, some 90%
of democrats or gay folks are democrats. >> yeah. you know, it's such a diverse crop of potential candidates for the democratic field that each one of them brings a unique perspective on the diverse communities and what that intersection means and because of that we're going to see a strong push in the campaign season demanding that the equality act passed and we finally have 50 state protections for the community, businesses have a fair chance to contract with the government, that our communities are also being protected around the world as an issue of american foreign policy. >> i'm going to have to leave it there. >> it is a great time ahead. >> there are a majority of states still allow conversion therapy. vast majority for that matter. >> yep. >> thanks to jonathan there in philadelphia. danielle will stick around and ieyesha, have a great vacation. the terrifying moments in venice as a run away cruise ship
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said about the american princess now the white house playing defense. just before a visit to the united kingdom. and this. that out of control cruise ship slamming into another boat as it came into dock. what officials say may have caused the slow motion crash but we are going to begin here at 3:00 p.m. with the new details about the virginia beach shooting. we have learned a number of things including the time line of e haven'ts and also just hours before carrying out the attack, the gunman actually submitted his resignation. and a short time ago, we should point out, as well, president trump made an unannounced stop at a local church in northern virginia, vienna, three hours from virginia beach, to pray for the victims of the tragedy we're told. joining me right now is nbc's cathy park live on the scene in virginia beach. police are investigating a
possible motive for the deadly rampage. what are we learning? >> reporter: kendis, the police chief stressed that the suspect was not fired and wasn't in the process of being fired but as you mentioned submitted a letter of resignation and as the investigation moves forward, we learned more details about how this shooting actually played out and took about two minutes for officers to actually arrive at the building in front of me and in total 36 minutes for officers to enter the building and bring the suspect into custody. the most dra mattic moment when officers confronted the suspect and the police chief described that moment in detail. take a listen. >> and at one point the suspect was firing through the door and the wall at the officers. and then the firing stopped. they had to figure a way to breach the door in a tactically safe and sound way.
there's an individual on the other side of the door. he has a gun. he just shot one of your officers. that officer was wounded at about 4:19. they breached the door eventually. and when they breached the door, suspect was then alive and was taken into custody and first aid was immediately rendered to him. >> reporter: and during that prez conference, we also learned that the suspect died on the way to the hospital. and this afternoon, there are very few details about the suspect still. we did hear from a neighbor yesterday who said that he kept to himself. we also learned that the suspect did work with a lot of the victims and speaking of the v t victims there are four still hospitalized at this hour and in critical condition. kendis? >> one injured and since released, was that police officer who was saved by his
bullet-proof vest and we are reminded as we look and listen to cathy there's a major military base right there in virginia beach. our thanks to cathy park there. to washington now where attorney general barr is ramping up his own investigation into the russia probe. >> like many other people who are familiar with intelligence activities, i had a lot of questions about what was going on and i assumed i'd get answers when i went in and i have not gotten the answers that are at all satisfactory and probably have more questions and some of the facts that i've learned don't hang together with the official explanations of what happened. >> and today top democrats are slamming barr's investigation as illegitimate. >> is there any question in your mind that the counterintelligence probe involving the trump campaign was not legitimate? >> absolutely not. absolutely not. this was a -- an appropriate
action taken by the fbi, taken by some of our intelligence community. as a matter of fact, if they had not acted, it would have been the height of irresponsibility. >> given how much he misled the country of mueller's report and findings, we can say given this power he'll do so in a way to mislead the country in the president's service. >> adam schiff referring to william barr right there. joining me is mike. >> reporter: hello, again, to you, as well. democrats are up in arms over bill barr and so are people, neutral observers, listening to bill barr, observe the actions over the course of the last
several months and after jeff sessions was forced out and and barr released the four-page summary, the justice department under bill barr stiffing the courts, the congress in terms of documents asked for and ordered by federal judges. mark warner has been on top of an investigation, the top democrat saying that barr is a personal advocate for the president. not supposed to be doing that. and has very little credibility. adam schiff, you saw him. of course, adam schiff is the chairman of the house intelligence committee and he's very concerned as are many others about the president's granting bill barr the sweeping powers to declassify documents in this search for the investigation of the investigations and the origins of the mueller investigation and other investigations into president trump, possible collusion, possible conspiracy
and possible obstruction of justice. here's what schiff has to say in a statement just the other day. congress and this committee must serve as a check on the abuse of power to ensure that the intelligence and law enforcement can do investigation without fear of retribution and, kendis, no less a controversial figure than james comey. in a tweet yesterday, criticized bill barr for, quote, echoing conspiracy theories after barr said some resistance seeing and some of what the investigators -- the evidence he's seen so far would lead him to say that there's a shredding of institutions and norms in this country that he finds very disturbing. kendis? >> mike, i do want to follow up on the shake-up taking place in the building behind you and this time it's a key administration official who's there helping the
president in the russia probe. tell me about this exit and what does it protell? >> reporter: emmit fudge was here and served republican and democratic presidents and in particular and most notably helping the clinton white house and president clinton in the impeachment saga in the late '90s. considering the fact that the house of representatives now controlled by democrats and there are investigations going on on any number of committees to possibly lead to impeachment and that's a very hot topic today and over the course of the coming week, a lot of people's eyebrows raised when the president announced his departure come mid month but others in the white house insist that this was the plan all along. >> a bit of a two-week notice. mike, thank you. let's bring in chief washington correspondent bloomberg news,
kevin, kelly fang and legal analyst glen kushner. kevin, what can you tell us about barr's investigation right now? >> well, i think it's getting a lot of applause from republicans and in terms of how attorney general barr continues to do that, they're looking at polls and talking to republican strategists in particular they say that this has become a politically divisive issue and the republicans standing behind president trump on this particular point and you heard that point in that interview with mark warner. democratses are frustrated at this because they feel it's totally up ended the entire process. the question becomes when lawmakers return from recess tomorrow, just precisely how democrats are going to continue on with their chatter of impeachment because we can get into the weeds and get wonky in terms of whether or not there's impeachment chatter or an investigation into impeachment but at the end of the day folks
want to know, are democrats going to move to impeach or not? >> we were talking offline and you were mentioning while you do not have faith in the doj leadership you have faith in the men and women who are there in the ranks doing the work. you say this but do you get a sense of a cover-up taking place? >> yeah. the problem is the rank and file really, they're hard working, dedicated, career civiler servs and bill barr is involved this sort of political misdirection or slight of hand. let's try to highlight what he is doing. when he says i'm disappointed that bob mueller didn't make a decision on whether the president obstructed justice, kendis, that would be like your boss coming to you today when you wrapped and saying, kendis, i'm really disappointed you didn't host the noon hour and you would rightfully say, well, boss, alex witt hosted the noon hour and nobody asked me to and
then he says, i'm just disappointed in you. >> don't bring alex witt into this. >> i love alex. bill barr could tell bob mueller, bob, i'm your supervisor, your superior and i am overseeing this probe. i want you to make a decision. bill barr didn't do that. instead, he took the report and then he took advantage of bob mueller's belief that he couldn't render an opinion on obstruction because that's for the congress to do. it really is this sort of political double speak that doesn't withstand scrutiny. >> what do you make of the back and forth this week where barr claimed that the special counsel could have reached a decision on obstruction? kind of gave many people whiplash. >> i think that he would have been damned if he did and robert mueller said conclusively i would have indicted president trump but for the fact of the olc opinion saying that i
couldn't and then the fact he basically said i couldn't do it but here's the road map, ladies and gentlemen in congress, to be able to determine whether you pursue impeachment proceedings. he's damned for that. i think what robert mueller said on wednesday still rings true. i don't think bill barr, the way he is pretty much doing the televised interviews and i find personally inappropriate, as the attorney general of the united states, he's not a legal contributor. not supposed to be doing legal commentary and the fact he goes on tv and spin things when robert mueller, an exceptionally reticent, private man is not countering what bill barr is saying is problematic and why i think someone like congressman schiff saying we need robert mueller to testify before congress, you know, my apologies, mr. mueller, perhaps you get a subpoena to do so, kendis, time and time again, i think we all are rushing to
judgment without having seen the evidence and with the absence of the unredacted mueller report provided to the american people and the members of congress to receive it, i think that we all really need to sit there and slow down a little bit and determine what is still out there. i think we are crucifying people like robert mueller for the lack of more excited behavior on wednesday when he spoke to the american public but you know there's the underlying evidence there, that has power, and we need to see what it is. >> a lot of people need to read the evidence that's been laid out there in the 448-page report. going to leave it there for a moment here. kevin will be back with us and kat katie phang. thank you for your time. they're getting the baby president trump balloons ready and the president trying to play damage control orr that whole thing with meghan markle and calling her nasty. to get help when you need it. with licensed agents available 24/7.
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in just a few hours, president trump is set to take over to london for an official state visit. here's how sky new, also owned by our parent company comcast, is advertising their coverage for his impending arrival. ♪ ♪ very subtle. this will be a very delicate three-day visit for the president. over the next three days, he'll meet with queen elizabeth and the outgoing prime minister, as well. along with some business leaders. however president trump remains deeply unpopular if that country. according to global public opinion and data company ugov. steve patterson joins us from
london. there's massive protests held there during the last visit. they actually had to adjust the president's schedule. what sort of welcome do the british citizens have in mind for him this time? >> a big welcome. that commercial first of all is amazing. i think the president is making a big splash long before he's seen the pond right now w. the headlines, about uk leadership or brexit or the royals or specifically meghan markle, every headline is about trump and specifically comments he's already made before getting here. but let's talk about when he gets here. right? this is an american guide to what to watch for when the president arrives here monday. day one, the president and the first lady will be welcomed by the queen in the palace garden for the official beginning of the state viz. they'll inspect the guard of honor, a private lunch, sip tea. later that day, the president will lay a wreath at the grave of unknown warrior before a
very, very lavish state reception at buckingham palace. you might remember the last time the president met the queen, it was not the groes graceful of affairs and he broke a few royal rules when he stepped in front of her on occasion so watch for that. day two, politics. the president heads to downing street to chat with jououtgoing prime minister may and then the president already making waves there throwing support behind boris johnson to replace may, typically not done but i think people here in britain don't expect any sign of anything typical on this trip nor should the president because tens of thousands of people that day expected to protest, already plans for unprecedented road closures and the big iconic baby expected to be there on that day, as well. wednesday day three very different day, commemorations for d-day that day heading to normandy and then ireland.
>> with the protests planned, it's a good thing london traffic is never a mess. >> no. >> thanks to steve patterson there in london. let's bring in the panel. molly hooper, saraj hashmed and elaina train. welcome to all of you. molly, what do i don't make of the dust-up? but the nasty comments and all of the stuff that the president has already done ahead of this visit, has it already marred the three-day viz it? >> hey, he is the great disrupter. reminds me of the welcome to washington, d.c. sort of this, you know, when president trump speaks, a lot of times he's reacting to things and he counter punches and in a lot of instances he's been counter punching and not going over well with the british audience. he also likes to say as the president he has a close
relationship to england and the uk because of his scottish ancestry. i have scottish ancestry and known to disrupt things anyway. maybe this isn't too unexpected but it is interesting and it comes at a time when there's so much going on in the world that the u.s. is involved in, especially trade, and that's an issue that will come up likely tomorrow or the next day. you know, britain is in the middle of the brexit matter and president trump says as long as britain is still a part of the eu the u.s. is not going to change trade deals with them. he promised a great trade deal if they withdraw from the eu and that looks a little bit, you know, that doesn't look like it happens as much as he thought. >> we were looking at the images of the president. mind you, he kept the queen waiting which is another thing with protocol. this is from the visit last summer and there were a lot of large protests and according to
the opinion poll, the president has a 21% positive rating there in the uk compared to former president obama's 72% visiting for a state visit. how would you gauge this president's popularity in the uk? >> kendis, i say this often. president trump will never recover from this. after all, the british people elected him to lead them and that's what he is doing there, going to visit them and bestow the grace upon them but the main point that president trump is going to the united kingdom because he's very much invested in its future, focusing on brexit. he wants there to be basically, you know, a re-establishing national sovereignty, something he ran on in 2016. governing on behalf of the voters and rejecting of the control of this nebulus and distant bureaucrats who have been trying to dictate british
policy and if trump is trying to insert himself and maybe getting a more favorable trade deal and not dealing with the eu as the go-between, especially because he's been dealing with mexico and canada, china and japan in terms of directly engaging them instead of the eu. >> meantime, here's part of the welcome he is getting. the mayor of london is voicing his displeasure with trump's upcoming visit saying i suspect it will be one to look back on with profound regret and acknowledge that we were on the wrong side of history. america is like a best friend with a best friend that you have a responsibility to be direct and honest when you believe they're making a mistake. so let me get you to weigh in on this, helene. do you think the mayor is echoing how others feel? >> the mayor of london and the president have not really been close partners at all over this
time in office. >> trump critic. >> i think that, you know, yes, if you look at the president's approval rating in the uk, he does echo what others in the country do think. but again, you know, his arrival here and i think something that's interesting is the timing of that interview with "the sun." last time coming to the uk last year right before or during his state visit there. he had another interview with the same person of "the sun" and a disruptive interview and what he did this time around. and i think that the president knows he's going there and greeted by protesters and does claim that he thinks a lot of people are more in favor of him than the polls show and seeing on tv. but it is -- he is a disrupter and will see a lot of that this week. >> one way to unite all of england saying, yay, liverpool,
congrats. >> that's not going to united all of england. >> that is true. >> didn't he come home from his last trip to england with a soccer ball or something like that? >> he did get a gift. but yeah. >> a world cup ball from helsinki. >> jared kushner is heading to london from the middle east and been there trying to sell the foreign leaders on his plan for peace in that region. your colleague jonathan swan sat down for an interview with kushner. here's a sneak peek. >> i want to ask you about your close and influential relationship with the saudi crown prince. he orders the murder of a "the washington post" journalist, kidnaps the lebanese prime minister, bombs civilians in yemen. what do you see in this guy? >> cliffhanger. the full interview when the
series premiers on hbo tonight. but what can you tell us about that interview? >> right. so, my colleague jonathan as we saw, he interviewed jared kushner both at his home and then at the white house over a two-day period and vusessential goes into different topics. the relationship with the saudi crown prince and palestinian som sovereignty and the middle east peace plan to roll out the economic side soon. they talk about his security clearance and issues there and covers a wide range of subjects but i think a big thing in what we saw in that clip was really trying to see how jared kushner and the trump administration can reconcile his relationship with the saudi crown prince mohammed bin salman in contrast to the record as we saw, you know, his record on, of course, the murder of jamal cakosh gi.
so -- ka show gi. >> that's on hbo. our thanks to you. i didn't know there were some liverpool haters out there but i guess so. >> arsenal all the way, baby. >> all right. >> me, too. >> okay. thank you, guys. all right. premier league, folks. a disaster in slow motion. a massive cruise ship slammed into a dock and now a better idea of what caused that. every day, visionaries are creating the future. so, every day, we put our latest technology and unrivaled network to work. the united states postal service makes more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. e-commerce deliveries to homes with the chase mobile app, jason wu could pay practically anyone, at any bank, all while putting on a runway show. or, he can make it even easier - (meow) with recurring payments to his cat sitter. and now she's ready for the catwalk.
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welcome back. let's get to the roundup right now. the frightening moments in italy involving a runaway cruise ship. this is not how you're supposed to come in to dock. just so you know. this is in the tourism hot spot of venice. italian media reporting at least five people injured. two tug boats guiding it into port were unable to control the speed. the cause under investigation and authorities suspect it may have been engine failure. the pentagon telling the white house to back off over the "usa mccain" scandal. the military will not be politicized according to the reporting of reuters. this follows the navy's admission that they were ordered
to keep the ship out of sight during the president's visit to japan last weekend. and the queen of creole cuisine died. she created new orleans first white table cloth restaurant for black patrons. on the stump, just a handful of candidates left to speak closing out the california state democratic convention. road warrior ali is there and joining us from the bay area, san francisco, where candidate was just booed off stage. what could they have possibly said, aly? >> reporter: frankly, john delaney who was booed off was not the only one this weekend because another governor running in this race also said something similar that medicare for all is not the way forward. that definitely earned them boos
from the progressive crowd and an example of how bad a moment that was. i want you to take a look at the tape for yourself. >> but what we as democrats to build an economy to works and with smart policies. medicare for all may sound good but it's actually not good policy nor is it good politics. i'm telling you. i'm telling you. yeah. i actually asked castro about that then just a few minutes later. look what he said to me. what do you think of this? saying that medicare for all is not the way forward. can you compete with that a stance like that? >> you heard the reaction. probably not in this state. >> reporter: and so, look, this is the way that the policy contrasts start to come out.
people trying to make that argument that's not the path forward to prez for and in a room like this that reacted to big progressive ideas probably not the room that's the most receptive to a comment like that or the candidates. >> something to be said about knowing the crowd and may have read it wrong. thank you. i want to bring in the panel right now. sir michael singleton and also stephanie brown-james. welcome, stephanie. let me start with you. quick reaction to all of that. are you saying with people out there that you're not able to say something like that with the congress there said? >> you are definitely able and you should talk about what separates you from the other candidates in a race so i
actually applaud those two candidates for saying that they don't necessarily agree with what may be a popular opinion. california is one of the most progressive states in the country and the delegates in california are probably the most progressive folks in the country and so when you go to a convention speaking in front of extremely progressive voters, you have to expect the reaction you get but yet i think it does speak well for the two candidates to say, look, this is what separates me from the field. when they they go to another state, they may get a different reaction. not all believe that medicare for all is a path forward and they're starting to different yate themselves. >> that's props to john delaney in the race longer than any, any other candidate and little traction and talking about this getting the traction. >> first one to officially launch the presidential bid. >> exactly.
i think lincoln was in office when he started. lets's talk about planting the calls for impeachment, got a lot of applause at this convention. do you get a sense the republican party will capitalize on this? >> if democrats move forward on impeachment i think the president will attempt to utilize this as a benefit for him because ultimately if it goes to the senate it is not going to go through and the president will say i have been vi vindicated. the president is ie innocent that will be the argument and i think when you think about this politically speaking, democrats need to be very careful here. of the 61, 62 members of the freshman class of 2018, 43, 44 members of the class beat republicans. they won in distraicts that donald trump won and if you move forward you put some of those democrats who beat some of those republicans in jeopardy because
republicans only need 21 seats to flip the house back under their control and nancy pelosi is looking at that and why i believe she's been very, very careful saying move forward with an investigation, public hearings and if it ultimately leads there we'll go there and be meticulous in the process. >> only one democrat who won in one of the districts has come out for impeachment proceedings. stephanie, the senator kamala harris, she is actually still trailing in third among california voters. did she win over the crowd or was she eclipsed by some of her competitors? >> i think she held her own and continues to do. i think she is in this for the long haul. she is anticipating that she will continue to make strides going across the state and the country. i wouldn't say that she made a huge splash when it comes to any policy prix skrip policy prescriptions.
he had a scary event where a man bum rushed the stage and i hate that we are talking about her in the news not because of that incident and continues to go out across the home state, the country to make sure that she is telling voters what makes her different from the number one and two and three people in the polls ahead of her to let voters know why she is the best choice in the race and i'm not sure she's been able to do yet. >> she was cool when this incident took place. you all note some years ago when there's a guy that bum rushed the stage at a -- trump campaign rally he did not look as calm as kamala harris there. >> jumped off the stage. >> she's smooth, yeah. >> kind of -- there's a little bit of contrast and showed it might have been a good thing for her. >> leadership maybe? yeah. >> yeah. >> okay. >> still a scary moment and i
zoomed in on her face and i do think she handled it quite well and happy that this type of incident happened so early in the race showing organizations across the country of people planning the forums of a lot more security to have to protect the candidates. >> her husband was on that stage pretty quick and should have seen his face like -- don't mess with my wife. >> right. >> thank you guys. >> thank you. up next, a nasty fight, the white house defense backfires because the audio confirms that the president did indeed call meghan markle nasty and not the first woman hit with that label by donald trump. the doctor's office might mejust for a shot.o
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in 2016. >> she said she moved to canada if you were elected but she moved to britain. >> that would be good. a lot of people moving here. what can i say? i didn't know that she was nasty. >> for the record, the president claims that he was unaware of her 2016 comments about him and in that clip that we showed you he did say that he thinks that she would be a good princess. back with me to discuss is danielle and molly. want you to weigh in. danielle, why does it seem that the president uses a word nasty for a lot of women? >> because that is his go-to. it is a way for him to bring women down, to degrade them, to say that anyone that is -- that has the ability to push back against him and his horrible agenda for women is somehow nasty and wrong and dirty and shouldn't be paid attention to. it's a constant m.o.
nothing rubs the president more than women that push back against him and see how thin his skin is. >> not the first person he did this with, molly. we heard him say reference to hillary clinton, of course, back sometime ago as well as kamala harris. >> yep. >> why with women? >> i'm not sure but you know, when he did call hillary clinton a nasty woman, it sort of became this rallying cry and a badge of honor. i remember shortly after he was inaugurated the next day you had celebrities going up and i believe it was naomi -- ashley judd who gave an impassioned speech who said if that's nasty then a nasty woman and saw the shirts coming out but to go to the point he made the remark of meghan markle, you know, that's a tricky position because this is an issue that just calling
out a member of the royal family for something that happened before she became a royal, that puts the royals in a very tricky position and probably a better thing that she's not meeting with him during this visit and can't really push back and he did kind of sort of correct say she will be doing excellently as a princess and an odd comment. it was. >> it was interesting. but here's what the president has said over the years about women. >> such a nasty woman. >> a trust fund by making sure -- >> kamala harris. >> she was probably very nasty. >> okay. so let's talk big picture. going into 2020, the big movement is going to be women. women are the majority of voters anyway. do all of these comments matter? >> i think so. >> will it have traction? >> i think what has traction is the record on women, his
anti-abortion candidates that he appoints to the federal bench. i think that what has traction is all of the anti-abortion bills that are rolling out across the country taking the signal of the top and how mitch mcconnell and leonard leo to create -- to reshape our judiciary map and so women know that and they believe that and while there were 53% of white women that vote for the president even after the "access hollywood" tapes a majority of women, especially of color leading the charge against this president will remember and vote accordingly. >> it is interesting. i will note that he has certain terms, molly, this is a go-to apparently with women. with african-americans it's often been an intelligence sort of thing. and with many, many other people like joe biden, as well as many others, talking about their energy. what do you make of how he sides what to say to different people?
>> you mean how he characterizes them? >> yeah. >> crazy bernie and crazy pelosi and sleepy -- what was it? sleepy jeb? those kind of things. lying ted. i'm not sure. >> there were many. >> there's so many. you know? let's go hash tag whatever. but it's interesting because when i saw kamala harris last week at the msnbc hosted debate, town hall, excuse me, she kind of came off -- it seems like the women who are running in the democratic field really are trying to portray themselves as, you know, unnasty sort to speak. the opposite of. and they're making -- not to take the bait. >> not taking the bait. trying not to take the bait and i have to wrap. >> that's right. you can see it but he likes when they take the bait to kind of go in for the kill and one thing that they're kind of resisting and interesting when joe biden was asked, hey, what about
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sunday already? well, you know what that means. a busy week has come to an end and which top stories made the good, bad and ugly? two beautiful people are joining me. katie and kevin. katie, let me start with you. there are many tv personalities we love and good news about one of them and it makes the top of your list. >> it does. alex trebek, the host of "jeopardy" stage 4 pan creatic cancer. 4% survival rate. he's in near remission and in my opinion, kendis, great news not just good news. >> fantastic news. for somebody that we have watched so many years and have nothing but good hopes and wishes for. kevin, your good news and good pick is out of this world? >> out of this world. i'm a nerd. a space nerd. nasa inked a deal with an australian start-up company in darwin, australia, and it's a private sector company and going to be working with the
australians to send space rockets into space. a first for nasa and australia. so the aussies working with the u.s. >> what is the significance of that? we have been working with other countries in the past. >> well, you know whenat's interesting is it allows for space travel in terms of space technology in the private sector and nasa not just working with u.s. companies of sending folks into autoer space and technology in the private sector and outer space and now foreign companies, as well. for australia, this is a huge, huge win and for the u.s. it's a first of its kind. >> and this, of course, coming on the 50th anniversary of when we went it alone to the moon. >> yes. >> in july of 1969. katie, now to the next category. why's your pick bad here? >> well, you know, listen. can you spell, kendis, pay to play? for the scripps national
spelling bee, i fought hard to go to the national spelling bee. i fell short on onomatopoeia. of the 562 competitors more than half paid $1,500 to compete and my kind of bad for this past week, kendis, should you be able to pay to play at the scripps national spelling bee or earn the spot to be able to compete on the national stage to be able to win starlight and stardom to spell that infamous word? >> this vars if i blues scandal made it to the scripps spelling bee i guess. joking. kevin? >> no way to make it to the spelling bee regardless and this tariff, these tariff things. i was at the grocery store and thought about avocados. the republican party is really at odds with president trump on the issue of tariffs. this is only going to intensify, especially as we get closer to the various deadlines.
it's not just the u.s. and europe but now, of course, usmca and nafta 2.0. tariff talk. tariff talk. get ready. it could get really intense. gets angry at chipotle saying we know it's extra. katie, now to your ugly pick, a moment led to devastating news. >> kendis, in 2019, we have now had 11 deaths at mt. everest and in the past week alone, 2 americans have died. there's a complaint that there's overcrowding and bottlenecking occurring at 26,000 feet above sea level. the government in nepal has issued more than 381 permits at $11,000 each and in my opinion that's ugly. we shouldn't have that death on mt. everest. >> they're going up there for a selfie or a lifetime achievement. kevin, what about you? >> i'm going to have to say
this, this feud with president trump and meghan markle. this is a special relationship with the countries and this nasty comment, i have seen a couple episodes of "the crown" and i wonder if it makes an episode because this is a little -- this is a little too much for my -- like a reality television. >> if it is not an episode of "the crown," a spoiler alert. >> maybe "deal or no deal." >> thank you. preparing for a new round of tariffs. the trump administration gets ready to hit mexico. i've booked your shower, sir.
this'll do it for this hour of msnbc live. the news continues right now with richard. >> thank you so much. have a good sunday and good week ahead for you. i'm richard lui. thank you for being with us. he's not left yet but a nasty start to president trump's trip to england. criticism over meddling in their politics and a controversy of meghan markle. this as here in the united states more house members and more americans are in favor of impeachment according to the polls. trump using tariffs once again as a global hammer to try to get what he wants. how much is this bluster costing all of us here in the united states? we'll look at that. we are also keeping an eye on virginia beach. a