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people at the time as the country's number one problem in the gallup poll. in a mind-exploding interview on a broadcast morning show, the president made a number of claims ending with his dismissal of climate change which we will get to later. the stand out moment came when trump was pressed by piers morgan about whether he would have liked -- i love that word -- liked to serve his country. stumbling through the excuses, he offered up alibis, each more absurd than the one before. first he suggested he didn't serve because he was not a fan. that was his word. he was not a fan of the vietnam war and he claimed no one heard of vietnam at the time. he said he is now atoned for dodging the war, dodging the
draft by increasing the military budget as president. >> you were not able to serve in vietnam because of a bone spur
condition in your feet. do you wish you have been able to serve? >> i was never a fan that was war. i will be honest. it was a terrible war that was very far away. you are talking about vietnam and at that time nobody ever heard of the country. >> would you like to have served? >> i would not have minded and i would have been honored. i made up for it right now. $700 billion and this year $716 billion and i'm
making up for it rapidly because we are rebuilding at a level the military has never seen before. >> before the ridiculousness with piers morgan, the previous excuse is he avoided sexually transmitted diseases. that's what he said before. he admitted he needed to make up for dodging the war because he served up money to the military as president. it's his sdwrob propose the military budget and his national
service as a citizen is simply being president. according to the "new york times," he avoided the war with a medical deferment for bone spurs. contrary to the claim that nobody ever heard of vietnam, the polling shows vietnam was at the top issue. the article in the l.a. times, the top issue in the country at the time he was skipping the draft. anyway, for medical deferment that didn't exist. we found out one of his father's tenants had given the draft excuse. in the same interview, he was asked about his attacks on the late senator, john mccain. here's what he said last week that one of his aides asked to hide the uss john mccain during his trip to japan. >> i'm not sure about that. i didn't know anything about it. i'm not sure it happened. someone said they are painting the ship. i have no idea if it happened or not.
i hear it's fake news. maybe it is and maybe it isn't. i don't talk about john mccain unless somebody asks me about him. >> he said it didn't happen, but the navy confirmed that a request was indeed made from the white house to hide the ship from trump's view. it's all on the record. his acting chief of staff and head of the omb said it happened. you confident that it was nobody in the white house or the white house advanced person that made the request to the navy to cover up the uss john mccain? >> i believe it was someone on the advanced team. a 23 or 24-year-old person went to the site and said there is the john mccain. we know how the president feels. maybe that's not the best backdrop. that's not an unreasonable thing to ask. >> seriously? >> it's not. >> there is a man concerned about his reputation, unlike the president of the united states. clair mccaskill and white house correspondent from pbs news hour
in london. the columnist from "the washington post" and what a list. we start with the senator. i don't know about being embarrassed is the right word, but what do you make of the loony tunes. do you wish you had served in vietnam? a lot of people my age were asked if you wishd you had played a role. he said he got out of it because nobody ever heard of the country. isn't that the most ridiculous. vietnam was in everybody's hearts, minds, and souls in the late 1950s. >> it was embarrassing. he never said i dodged the draft because i didn't want to fight for my country. that's the reality what he did. he dodged the draft because he had money in power and there were a lot of young men that died in vietnam that were drafted that department feel
great about going to vietnam, but they went. that's what we do in this country. we have a war and a draft, people must go. he never admitted that he was a draft dodger and one of the most ridiculous things he said that was beyond embarrassing is it was so far away. like that has something to do with it. >> i'm sorry. it's ludicrous. i'm lavine i laughing. >> it's unbelievable. >> mommy, it's so far away. i don't want to go that far. >> we should remember a lot of young men dodged the draft including bill clinton. if you asked bill clinton this question, he came up with a different answer about objections to the war and about his honor to those who served, not equating whatever budgetary measures he took. >> here told them at the university of arkansas he was going to join and he didn't.
>> the fact that trump tried to get out of the draft is not what is offensive about what he said. equating the service who put their lives in peril and give their lives for people like the vietnam war. >> he went to a cheesy doctor who was a tenant in his father's building. they cooked it up. he was a concierge doctor. >> as a young man, i was a couple of years young. i had a draft number and everybody has a story about their vietnam time. had the escalation phase gone on a couple of years later, i probably would have had to go. i didn't have bone spurs. that's my honest story. >> a lot of us had high draft numbers and you have huge draft numbers. a 304, you are home free. that's the way it works.
what's it smell like having our president making up the cockamamy excuses. he doesn't say the clinton people did, nobody wanted to go. ua your thoughts? >> the president is trying to get credit for the fact that he's the president and considered the commander in chief and he is trying to prioritize the military, but here in london, i talked to so many people, mostly protesters of the president who put donald trump in a global window. they said he is not just someone who problematic for the united states. he's a symbol for fascism and far right extreme thoughts. >> fascism? they look at our president-elected in this country two or three years ago as a fascist? >> yeah. people, the protesters who were not happy with donald trump and
came out to the streets said they were worried about the fact that he was talking to boris johnson and talking to these people that they hope are characters in their own country and they want the president here spreading his ideology. that might take people aback. they don't think democracy and freedom, but they think racism and a person who is the symbol of everything wrong in the world. >> when are asked about america's problem with gun violence. he said assault rifles is a form of entertainment.
let's listen. >> i never have understood why anyone in america needs an ar 15 assault rifle at home. why do they need? >> i lot of them use it for entertainment. >> guns are entertainment? >> for some people it's entertainment. they go out and shoot. >> this guy had 13 ar 15 assault
rifles. he bought 51 guns in one year. >> if it wasn't guns he would have done bombs. he was a successful gambler. there is almost no such thing. what he did was incredible.
>> he sounds like he is praising his abilities. >> and discounting the threat within the last few days from the arsenals citizens have. the question is he is getting is from one of the friendliest interviewers he had. someone he thinks of as a friend. >> why did he say the guy is incredible and successful. he killed 50 something people. >> he probably looks at john gotti as a successful guy. he knew what he was doing. a motherous mobster. there was a part of trump that takes any success field in any direction as success.
on the merits. that says a lot about trump. that leaks out. >> he's a leader in his field. >> he went for it. it's incredible. and also the word choice. entertainment? it's just a bizarre word choice. >> this guy won an election you lost. we picked him. this is d-day 75 years later. one of the wonderful things that i did and think most of us agree, he wrote a letter explaining the failure of normandy if it failed. he was ready to take the blame. he said, you know, it's my fault. i made the decision on the day, the strategy and everything. it was my alliance and blame me. maybe the american people have to have that ability in 2020. we made a mistake. we just made a mits tastake,
including in missouri. >> you have to understand, chris, there is such angst and frustration with the dysfunction of our government right now. the middle has disappeared. everyone has gone to their respective corners. when that happens in a democracy, nothing gets done. when nothing gets done, people get cynical. to use a metaphor here that may not be appropriate, they pull the pin on the grenade and toss it into the swamp. that was what donald trump was to the people who supported him. we need change and maybe this guy because he is so different. barack hussein obama didn't get us change. >> did they expect this jack in the box to blow open? did they expect the performance we saw? >> a lot of disillusioned and a lot of them are defensive of this president. they feel like the only reason he is not succeeding is because
the media is lying about him and the swamp is getting in his way. that's the reality on the ground in places that support donald trump. that's why our candidate, whoever that might be needs to stay firmly focused on the entire group of people that are potentially going to vote for them, not just the folks that are active in a democratic primary. also the people who are proud to call themselves moderates. >> i saw george mcgovern lose more than 40 states. this presidential performance over there, how do you feel as a reporter watching this spectacle? >> in some ways we are watching history, the president came here and he was throwing insults from before he landed and picking fights with the mayor and saying meghan markle was nasty even though he said that's not what he meant. as a reporter, i see in a global
sense, everyone's reaction to the p. evresident. when you go out into the world, people in britain are beside themselves when they look at the president. they are thinking how is this what america became. we looked to you to be leaders on climate change and leaders on how to be a president and how to really fulfill the democratic values. what we are seeing for people who don't like president trump, a total collapse of american values. >> maybe they will see him some day as a aberration like cromwell. thank you very much. coming up, the battle for the democrats' progressive left. elizabeth warren may be gaining momentum. chris hayes joining me after this with senator warren. plus, more from trump's
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>> welcome back to "hardball." bernie sanders cornered the market as he ran against hillary clinton. four years later with a much larger field of candidates, look at them, there is a battle brews over who will win over the support of the democratic left now trying to gain over sanders. elizabeth warren, here she is in indiana campaigning on her economic message and trying to win voter who is went for trump in 2016. >> america's economic policy for decades now has been what giant corporations do whatever they want. here's the problem. those giant corporations, they are not loyal to america. they are not loyal to american workers. they're loyal to exactly one thing. their own profits. yep. >> as the "new york times" writes, neither ms. warren's
campaigns or mr. sanders will say they deliberately are eying each other even though they are the candidates out of more than 20 and most represent the party's left flank. the trip to the upper midwest is the latest example of how they are jockeying the same cohort of left leaning voters and donors. a new poll makes the point that shows warren's support is trending upwards and sanders is declining. look at that. she was 7 to his 24 two months ago and now she is 10 to his 19. that's a tightening race. i'm joined by chris hayes, host of all in who will be holding a live town hall after "hardball" with senator warren in ft. wayne, indiana. i don't know if you see it, but let's talk about it. i get the sense that it's zero sum with her and bernie. she goes up and he will come down a bit. >> that's probably right, but there is a lot of space in time
for the dynamics to shake out. there a lot of votes on the table and i think that the most obvious formulation that people are conceiving of suspect basically biden and a few alternatives as they winnow down. there is possibly space for both of them. if you look at the polling, they are commanding marge r chunks. ultimately if both of those candidates survived later and later which they are well poised to do, there is going to be a natural desire for one of them to overtake the other. >> what are do you make about bernie's race? does it have the fire? she has been going up with new ideas every couple of days. she is generating policy and places that she said i have something for everything. bernie is selling the socialist
mantle of the guy who has been here before. stick with me. >> when the team conceded the race, i'm not sure they thought biden was going to get in and quite prepared for how much of a chunk biden would take up and how much oxygen he would take because they were the only non-hillary clinton functionally. she and the campaign sort of had a theory and a strategy which was, we are going to make news by releasing policy and coming up with ideas. we will do a ton of town halls and take a ton of questions and be clear about our positions and that tourism, their theory has born a lot of rewards. >> what do you think of the wealth tax? that's one way to grab the passion on the hard left. people are angry about inequality and they don't think all boats rise with the tide and
they want someone to say that. >> the funniest thing about the wealth tax is it has plurality. whether that would survive an actual election in which a huge amount of money and messaging would be brought to bear on why it's a bad idea. if you talk to people even though in the terms of american political debate taxing health as opposed to income is a departure. it's broadly extremely popular when you pass it by people, not just on the left. >> for may not be constitutional. good luck with the crowd. they are all attentive and ready to hear from you. >> hi! >> so quiet. our people are much noisier. >> they are trying to be respectful. >> i like them already. everybody watching to catch chris's live town hall. there she is. elizabeth warren at 8:00 p.m.
eastern. the democratic strategist and host of hill tv. republican strategist. you first. i want you to look at the field. is there anything moving? i'm looking at it and the numbers we get every couple of days. do you see it moving up or down? >> people are moving, but when will it stop? we will see this for several months. we are three weeks away from the first debate on msnbc and nbc. that will be zero telling. the bright lights go up and you are going to see people really shine who we didn't expect and others have flopped, not expecting that either. we have a lot of movement and when it comes to the sanders-warren situation, it's more about sanders came in and he had that support being the outsider against the establishment from 2016. he just thought he had it. he didn't realize he had to keep
earning it. elizabeth warren assumed nothing and she is grinding it out, doing her job going from town hall to town hall offering policy. bernie seems a little mean and angry right now. >> some of my kids had a lot of people's kisseds. the young people. >> one woman in the primary last time said she was for bernie and i said why. she said because everybody said i shouldn't be. she wanted to be against the norm. >> let my try my theory. elizabeth warren is not eating bernie's lunch, but she is gaining on him. why? >> elizabeth warren is doing something that is very keen. she is showing leadership. it's not just the policy she puts out. when they asked her the question about impeachment, she said yeah. she didn't dance, she didn't say let's show more evidence.
impeach him. whether you agree or not? >> nobody needs more evidence. >> she had a position and she took it. >> by the way, i like that she has been pushing this populist argument way before she was a senator. >> you know why she is running for president. people compare her to hillary clinton and that's wrong. that's a gender and age dynamic is the only thing they have in common. she has a clear reason about why she is running for president in a way we never knew about hillary clinton. at the end of the day, both warren and bernie are running in the intellectual left. it's a head argument. you have cory booker who is running from the emotional left. it's about social justice and going after the voter who is really care. the question will be you get to cory booker and you get to somebody like south carolina, is it the economic left or social
justice left. >> the president's approval numbers remain under water in the key battle ground states. all of them. the poll we just talked about, he is below 50% in states he won like wisconsin, michigan, iowa, pennsylvania. what do you make of that? anything? >> it's not surprising and matches what we have been seeing throughout his presidency. what i find interesting is the trump team is trying so hard to change the map. they know the states are not going to be in play. where they are trying to go into play in places like colorado and new mexico where he lost both states. he did come to 46.4 to 46.8. it was close. but they don't have a plan to pick up new states and that's going to be a problem for them. they are playing hard. i will give them the campaign
credit in that they are going into the states early and trying to do something. after 2018, i don't see how that's going to work. >> there used to be a boxer from sweden. he had one good punch. one good fight. he kept getting beat. people have that sunday punch. they land that punch and they can never do it. lightning doesn't strike twice. >> that's especially true. democrats are miserable to the people who have run before. that's a challenge. it's a challenge for biden and for bernie. these candidates were first time candidates and they have an edge because they are first-timers. >> your party has been kinder and they bring back bob dole and jack kemp. give him one more try. democrats do shoot their wounded. >> i don't know if that's the case under this party with
president trump. trump is just happy to shoot at anybody and won't let anybody stand up. the other side of that is i know we all are hesitant about looking and saying donald trump and how difficult it will be because of the outcome of 2016. you look at the poll numbers state by state. the polls were not wrong on the national election. hillary clinton got more votes. you look state to state and the poll numbers are not there. thea math is not on trump's side right now. >> i think if warren runs the race she is running and sticks to the populist issues and looks solid on them, she can beat trump. >> anywhere donald trump is at 48%, he can win that state. >> he will duke it out. pennsylvania he's at 48. it's great being with the pros. up next in his one and only appearance before the american public, robert mueller warned
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russian intelligence officers who are part of the russian military launched a concerted attack on our political system. the indictments allege and the other activities in our report describe efforts to interfere in our political system. they needed to be investigated and understood. >> okay back to "hardball." those were some of robert mueller's first words last week on the disturbing extent of russia's infiltration of our american political system in 2016. now the department of homeland security is looking into a security system malfunction in durham county, north carolina that includes the capital on election day, 2016 that could potentially have ties to the russian effort. "the washington post" reports that leaked documents revealed that russians tried to hack software company vr ises before the election. on election day, vr systems was
showing that some voters had cast ballots while the voters themselves said they had not. it was prompts workers to asked sk for voters's picture ids even though a law had been struck down legally by the courts. what mueller's report is raising is new questions. russian intelligence targeted employees of a voting technology company that developed software used by numerous counties to manage voter roles and stole mal wear on the company network. the company acknowledged that they may be the one referenced and denied the network was breached. mueller's investigation charged nearly 30 officials as we recall or companies for the alleged roles in election interference in 2016. last week mueller wrapped up remarks with a warning about the challenge ahead. >> i will close by reiterating the central allegation of our indictments.
there were multiple systematic efforts to interfere in our election. and that allegation deserves the attention of every american. >> for more i'm joined by the fellow of foreign policy at the research institute. great to have you on. after this drum of all the hearings and whatever happens on impeachment, the one undeniable fact is the russians messed with us, trying to undermine the great reputation american democracy destroys not just here, but around the world. we are the role model. what do you know about this north carolina case about how close they are to really screwing up in 2020? >> what's remarkable is this strikes at the core of the russian approach which is active measures and to subvert democracy. they shifted messaging and my team and i were watching them talk about voter fraud and election rigging.
at the same time they were hitting these databases and trying to get into the voter roles to create confusion. if you get into the system and change the identity, you can disinfranchise voters and screw up the system that create long lines or shut the place down. so people can't vote at all. this creates distrust in the system. did my vote really count? this is the core of our democracy. the second part is was it rigged and someone changed the votes? when we saw what the russians did, they were success of the at times at changing the votes. they caught them, but they have the ability to do that if they wanted to do. they can suppress and it creates the information operations they can put into american minds. the trick has been played on you. you don't have a say in your vote. we do. we control that system. that's a message they would like to repeat into 2020. >> how close are they or are they there to trig so that older
people, people of color, people of less money or transportation to get to the polls or anything, have they been able to rig it so it's harder for them? the id card trick. >> it's much harder now. dhs made a lot of strides despite the folks on capitol hill not always being supportive in terms of getting needed resources out there in terms of the conflicts they have to declare infrastructure and help them along. even at this point we have voting machines that don't have a verifiable paper trail back up. this has been three years. what are we going to do to make sure it's there?pushing hard. >> project what's going on in moscow. are people sitting over there trying to figure and they get to
the point of saying knocking out one of the electoral delegates. can they not make it so the next election is not callable. there is no clear winner. can they do that? >> they are thinking through ways to do that. there is a cost benefit calculus. basedoverpropaganda, they would like to see another trump term. they would only do that they were concerned about a challenger overtaking trump and have to make a decision about that challenger. would this be someone who would support russian foreign policy to hack us again in 2020 would be provocation for a war or at least a cyber war. the nsa and cyber command, they are war gaming out these scenarios and better prepared going into 2020. >> we are rooting for them and rooting for you. >> up next, trump takes his reality show approach to
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the science of climate change. >> do you personally believe in climate change? >> i believe there is a change in weather and i think it changes both ways. it used to be called global warming and that was not working and now it's climate change and now it's extreme weather. you can't miss. we have a thing with tornados. i don't remember tornados in the u.s. to the extent when you look back 40 years ago, we had the worst tornados we ever had. in the 1890s we had the worst hurricanes. >> were you able to give prince charles that you as the united states president is taking it seriously? >> we had a great conversation and it was about as you would call it, climate change. >> he asked if the prince, prince charles himself was successful in any way in convincing trump.
>> has he moved you a little bit? >> i'll tell you what moved me is his passion for future generations. he is not doing this for him. he's doing it for future generations. this is real. he believes that. he wants to have a world
that's good for future generations. and i do, too. >> bill nye the science guy and host of the podcast. one thing i have to ask you about. it sounds like trump who does no homework and no sense of history, i don't think he took a single science or humanities course in college, came up with the thing about tornados 90 years ago. somebody is feeding him this crab and giving him an arsenal of bs to challenge science. >> yes. you call it cherry picking the data. it's very common thing you can find where there are an exceptional number of tornados, but the key to it is, the world is getting warmer faster than
it's ever gotten in history. climate change and global warming are the same thing. global warming is more heat energy is causing climates to change and extreme weather to increase to more extreme weather events. these are all the same thing. being told by some of his advisers that these are ync different ideas is incorrect. >> can we argue in terms of experience? i have been here for 47 years in washington. it was a predictable weather pattern. cold in the winter and snowed once in a while. not too much. we were surprised by snow here. in the summer, starting sometime like july or august, july was the worst and you felt like a big wet heavy wool blanket was thrown over you after your shower. it always has been that way. now the weather here has been spectacular. you can't predict it anymore. >> there is no question the
world is getting warmer. no question that patterns are changing. are we going to have the political will or the drive to do something about all the carbon dioxide and methane we are putting in the atmosphere and changing from a fossil fuel economy to renewable energy. >> what are will be the signs between now and 2050 where people say stop denying? this is scary. >> two things are happening. first of all, young people are very concerned about climate change. people of my generation and perhaps yours are where you will find climate change. once in a while you meet a young person. the other side is very much aware of this. i heard harris faulkner and even sean hannity acknowledge that there is a political reason to embrace climate change and have a position those people, people
on the other cable network have heretofore be in lock step with the president and his advisers on climate change. the cracks are starting to form. come next election, allidates will have to have a position. the certain is, is it soon enough. i have been talking about this for over 20 years and the time to act is now. >> the one thing that grabbed me in was watching apollo 11. i was stuck in a hotel alone and watching the great documentary. when the astronauts see the earth, it's chilling. you realize how vulnerable we are. we are just one place in the universe where we can survive. it has this wonderful blue-green shell around us. not even a shell, but a film.
that's us. if something happens to that, we are all gone. >> the big thing is the speed, everybody. it's not that we are going to die in 12 years, but our sea ports and railroads and agriculture has to be moved away from the equators fast enough as we get to be nine and 10 billion. there is enormous opportunities. i'm optimistic because tomorrow is the anniversary of d-day. of course there was tremendous loss and sacrifice. it was part of this greater idea that we have a global problem and we are going to solve it. i always respect that. both of my parents are veterans at arlington. we can do this. >> keep it up. >> we can do this. you are our leader, bill. thank you. we had to have you on tonight.
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normandy. because of the cause we are fighting against nazism and because of our leadership as a country. the victory at normandy, the opening of the western front against adolph hitler was about an alliance and general eisenhower's determination ho hold together the allies and the great american general person y personified. he was an ally and never forgot it. that was the greatness of the world's forces to stick together and the greatness of what came after the western front was the alliance stuck together after the war. i love what mitt romney said was the victory at normandy and the alliance of the great democratic countries. >> alliances are essential to america's security to our future and i can't state that more plainly. we should strengthen our alliances and not dismiss them. it's in the most vital interest
to see a strong nato and a strong europe and stronger ties with the free nations of asia and the pacific and the subcontinent and every free country. we need to hold our friends closer and not neglect them or drive them away. >> i wish our own president understood those words. that's "hardball" for now. the all in town hall with elizabeth warren is next. >> there is something happening with elizabeth warren. >> elizabeth warren's popularity is gaining nationally. >> in a field of candidates, she is the with the plan for everything. >> i have a plan for that. >> i have a plan. >> i have a plan for that. >> does she have a plan to win in the places that made donald trump president. >> don