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ourselves. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next saturday at 5:00 p.m. eastern. up next, town hall with senator elizabeth warren moderated by my colleague, chris hayes. ♪ >> there's something happening with elizabeth warren. >> elizabeth warren's popularity is gaining in the polls nationally. >> in a field full of candidates, she's the one with a plan for everything. >> i've got a plan for that. >> but does she have a plan to win in the places that won donald trump. live from fort wayne, indiana and heart of trump county,
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all-in 2020 town hall. >> i'm elizabeth warren, and i'm running for president of the united states and i've got a plan for you. >> good evening. i'm chris hayes. thank you all for being here with me. the address is 2020 east washington boulevard. it's a former brewery and bottling plant back all the way to 1908. it's our venue tonight and for a very special town hall event. we're in the heart of the industrial midwest in fort wayne, indiana, eye city that's seen rises and falls. it helped power donald trump to presidency. a lot of people talk about how the trump base is the trump base and no one is going to defect from donald trump ever, but when you go back to 2016 and look at the votes that caused three key states, look at the overperformance in indiana, ohio, and the swing states he
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narrowly eked out, the question is are some voters up for play. what would it look like if they were willing to listen or vote for another candidate. it's the reason, i think, that e liz weather warren wants to co-opt some of the rhetoric of donald trump. donald trump take to places like fort wayne and said i'm going to be your protector and fighter to keep jobs here. just in the last day, elizabeth warren has unvailed another new plan. this one geared toward economic patriotism, in an attempt to recast trumpian appeals to material interests in places that have seen manufacturing go away and economic stagnation set in. with that, i would like to introduce tonight's guest, senator elizabeth warren. [ applause ] >> hi!
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hello! >> how are you, senator. >> it's good to see you. >> have a seat. [ applause ] >> it's good to see you. >> it's good to see you. >> well, the folks in this room are obviously very excited to see you. >> i'm very excited to see all of them. >> here's a question i got from a bunch of people. we went back and forth with people. we said where would you like to do a town hall and you guys said fort wayne, indiana. why? why are we in fort wayne, indiana? >> we're in fort wayne, indiana because people in indiana understand jobs. they understand how you build an economy that doesn't just work for a thin slice at the top, but an economy that, wos for everyone. but people in fort wayne, indiana also understand that leaving it to a handful of giant multinational corporations to build our economy just isn't
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working. those big corporations, they don't have loulty to america. they don't have loyalty to american workers. they have loyalty to exactly one thing, and that is their own profits. and what we've got to do is we've got to have a government that doesn't say hey, whatever it is that the giant multinational corporations want, let us help you. we've got to have a government that says we need this economy. we need this country to work for working people. and that's what we're going to do. >> there's an interesting sort of message and messenger question here, right? so, i think that that's a very -- that's a message that i think has real appeal in places like this across the industrial midwest. i think there are people that see you and say e liz weather warn is a harvard law professor. she's a liberal from massachusetts. and even if i like her, are
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people going to listen to that? are you the messenger who can talk to the folks that are experiencing that in places like fort wayne and beyond? >> so, look, this is the 20th state i've come to to do a town hall. 20 states plus puerto rico. i've done 90 plus town halls now. and it's about being out and talking to people. you know, keep in mind i was born and raised in oklahoma. i have three much older brothers. i was that late in life bay si always referred to as "the surprise." all three of my brothers went off and joined the military. my oldest brother was career military. he spent about 5 1/2 years in combat in vietnam. we were lucky to get him back home. my second brother was stationed overseas. my third was a combat medic. i had a different dream. my dream was to become a public
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schoolteacher. can we hear it from america's public schoolteachers? [ applause ] it's all i ever wanted was to be a public schoolteacher. my the time i graduated from high school, my family didn't have money for a college application, much less to send me off to four years of school. and like a whole lot of folks in america, i don't have a real straight line story. you know, mine starts with i got a scholarship to college. yea! and then at 19, i fell in love. >> i did not know this part -- somehow i read a lot. i didn't know this. you're 19 years old. from oklahoma. got three brothers who join the service. got a national debating scholarship. georgia washington very expensive school. you go there and then you're out after a year. >> i fell in love and got married to the first husband.
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never good when you have to number them. but -- and then after i got married, i thought that's it for me. i got a full-time job, minimum wage answering phones. and i thought, okay, it's a good job. it's a life i chose. but it wasn't the dream to teach school. so, here it was for me. it happened. i found a commuter college. we're living in houston by then or outside houston. 45 minutes away, costs $50 a semester. that was my chance, a four-year diploma. i hung on for dear life, and i became a special needs teacher. i have lived my dream. yep. [ applause ] >> huge part of your story personally when you talk about your trajectory which is really remarkable one is making a bunch of decisions bufted against different forces.
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can you find child care. one of those is whether you can control your reproductive freedom for women making decisions about going to school and things like that. there was an interesting thing that happened today that former vice president joe biden came out and said he would not support repealing the hyde amendment. that is a provision of law that bars the federal government from funding abortion services from medicare, medicaid, and others. you disagree with that decision. >> yes, i do. >> is joe biden wrong? >> yes. >> why is he wrong? [ applause ] >> here's how i look at this. i've lived in an america where abortions were illegal. >> yeah. >> and understand this, women still got abortions. now, some got lucky on what happened, and some got really unlucky on what happened. but the bottom line is they were there. and under the hyde amendment, under every one of these efforts to try to chip away or to push
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back or to get rid of roe vs. wade, understand this. women of means will still have access to abortions. who won't will be poor women, will be working women, will be wum who can't afford to take off three days from work, will be very young women, will be women who have been raped, will be women who have been molested by someone in their own family. we do not pass laws that take away that freedom from the women who are most vulnerable. [ applause ] >> i should note in the face of the hyde amendment, this is not the sort of -- you're talking about the laws in georgia and alabama. this is in the law for a while. >> it's been the law for a while, and it's been wrong for a long time. because it really is -- it's just discrimination. >> what do you say to someone that says i agree with you on substance, but if you look at
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the polling, americans have cross pressured muddled views on abortion. there's strong support for keeping roe v. wade. >> three out of four people want to keep that. >> but if you say government funding abortion, the poll flips the other way. what do you say to someone to say this is the smart political move. >> this is not about politics. what this is about is about health care, about reproductive freedom, about economic freedom, and about equal opportunity for all women. that's what this is really about. [ applause ] >> so, then the final question i guess is are there things -- it would be amazing to live in a world in which the right policy was always the best politics, right? >> yeah. >> but it's not the world we live in, right? i guess my question is are there things that substantively you think it's the right thing to do but the public doesn't like it. or that may be a good policy but
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it's not going to work in pennsylvania. >> the way i see this, this is what leadership is about. you work through what you believe is right. and you get out there and if most of america isn't with you, then you talk about it and you make the arguments and -- and you listen. >> yep. >> because maybe you don't have it right. but that's the whole point. you start with what you believe is right and then you get out there and fight for it. >> let me poll the room for a second. by applause-o-meter -- we're improvising -- i'm going to ask if your top issue is health care. applause for health care as top issue. [ applause ] how about jobs and the economy? [ applause ] that's interesting. >> that's interesting. >> climate. [ applause ] and what about -- a lot of people say this in polling, your number one issue is just beating
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donald trump? [ applause ] we're going to talk to a few folks who are here from indiana including a few that voted for donald trump and see what questions they have for you. don't go anywhere. we'll be right back with senator e l elizabeth warren.
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grow right here in america. >> companies are not going to leave the united states anymore without consequences. >> the deal was largely smoke and mirrors and carrier would go on to have round after round of lay offs. hundreds of jobs did go to mexico. lead off carrier workers who voted for trump like renee elliott were left to fend for themselves. >> i felt like he was going to protect our jobs. we all voted for him, and then boom. i felt betrayed. >> and joining us here tonight we have renee elliott who you saw there. she was also in the room when the man she voted for came to carrier to take credit for saving her job which was a loss. we have frank staples out on medical leave. he was a worker at carrier for 14 years and he voted for bernie sanders in the election.
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we have susan cropper laid off from her job after 31 years on the job. she voted for donald trump in 2016. and daryl boyd, a single mother who works in a restaurant. donald trump came to places like here and said i'm not going to let the jobs leave. i i'm not going to let the jobs leave. how do you feel about the guy now? >> i feel duped. i don't have faith in political candidates anymore. they make promises. they make them and they break them. >> how about you, susan? how do you feel? >> about like renee. you know, i just feel like i've been betrayed, let down. i thought trump was going to really secure american jobs, and that's just not what's happening out there at all. the jobs that were saved in the indy plant were never going to leave to begin with.
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>> so, you feel like it was a con? >> absolutely. >> senator, there are -- this was one of the key parts of the appeal, i think, in certain parts of the industrial midwest, particularly the white voters in the industrial midwest which was i will save your jobs. what do you say to folks like renee or susan -- and there are a lot more out there -- to say listen, you should listen to what i have to tell you. >> okay. so, the thing is you can't just wave your arms. you know that. it's you've really got to have a plan. i do have a plan on this. so, here's how it starts. i'm looking to make about 1.2 million new jobs, new jobs that are good jobs, that are jobs in manufacturing that are going to be good union jobs, the kind of jobs on which people can build a future. here's the idea behind it. right now we've got a climate crisis in this country and in this world. it threatens us all.
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worldwide, there's about a $23 trillion market for fighting back against climate change. and that's going to mean a lot of research, a lot of innovation, and a lot of manufacturing to push back against that. my plan is to make america the leader in that fight. we doubled down, tripled down, go tenfold on the research from where it's been before, and we say to anybody who wants to use that research, who wants to innovate around it, good for you. you can do it. but you have to produce the products right here in the united states of america. you have to build those jobs here. if american taxpayers are the ones who are going to foot the bill for the research, then by golly, it's going to produce good american jobs right here. so, that's one part. one more part is a commitment to
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spend about a $1.5 trillion in making our federal government go green. it's buy the products and here again it's going to be all by american. we're going to change our fleet of cars. we're going to bring in new products. we're going to change what happens with our buildings. and look what that does. that not only helps improve on the climate front, but it creates demand, demand to keep those factories open, demand to expand those factories and those jobs. and then there's one more part to it. and that is, look, even if we manage to go entirely carbon neutral by 2030, we're only about 20% of the world on this. there's another 80%. and that's where the worldwide demand for change is. so, huge market, $23 trillion market. right now the chinese spend 100 times what we spend here in the
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united states marketing their manufactured products around the world. i say we're going to spend that money in the united states to market american products around the world. that's how we're going to produce these jobs. >> yes, there is a climate crisis, but what are we going to do about the opioid crisis going on here. so many -- i mean, you know, it's in the inner cities. and it's the younger generation, the ones my kids' age. i see everywhere. and it's -- it's so much so now that you cannot ignore it, you know what i mean? it's bad. >> so, i have a plan for this. >> let's hear it. >> and it's already out there. it's with elijah cummings, congressman from maryland. we've got over 100 cosponsors right now between the house and the senate. here's how this plan works. it starts with exactly what you said, and that is how big this
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problem is. you realize just something short of 200 people will die today from an overdose. it's like a plane crash and another one tomorrow and the next day and the next day and the next day. and here's the deal. the problem keeps getting bigger. and right now, the federal government just keeps nibbling behind it. we spend a little more. we spend a little more, but the problem gets bigger. if someone came to you who loves you and said i know i've got a problem, they have a less than 1 in 6 chance of getting the medical help that they need. why? not because we don't know what to do but because right now we won't make the investment to help them. not enough beds, not enough doctors, not enough rehab centers. so, my plan with congressman cummings is over the next ten years we're going to put $100 billion -- i've already got this paid for -- $100 billion in
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to hit this opioid crisis head-on and bring it to its knees. we've got to save the people we love. [ applause ] >> i want to circle back around to the feasibility of these plans. >> sure. >> i think that's a question. but dora, you had a question first. >> yes, i'm a single mother. my main concern is my child. the children are the future. what is your plan for that and also for people that have to pick whether you're going to work a full-time job to pay for child care or if you're going to work a full-time job and hope you can rely on somebody? in my perspective, everybody doesn't have an aunt like yours. what is your plan for that. >> as you know, this one's really personal for me. when i got my first full-time teaching job, i had two little ones under feet. and i love that job. i was so excited by that job. but there i was, you know, still doing dinner at 8:00 at night, giving baths at 9:00, get them into bed and got three loads of
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laundry and then class preps. it was hard. but i could do hard. the part i couldn't was when the babysitter quit and then when the daycare center turned out to be a mess and then when the second daycare center said they were moving and then one more and one more and one more. and then there was the night. kids were in bed. my aunt b called and said how you doing honey? she's my widowed aunt b from oklahoma. i said fine, and then i burst into tears. i said i'm going to quit. it's like it just fell out of my mouth. you know what this is like, renee. and aunt b listened while i cried and i cried. finally i blew my nose and got myself back together. and she said the words that changed my life. she said i can't get there tomorrow, but i'll come on thursday. she arrived with seven suitcases
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and a dog named buddy and stayed 16 years and that's how i got to have a job. >> but it's just like you said. if everybody in the world had an aunt b, we would all be fine, but they don't. so, this is a big priority for me. what i've got is a two-cent wealth tax on the biggest fortunes in this country, the top 1/10 of 1%. anybody who's already made $50 million, the 50000000th and 1st dollar, they get a 2 cent tax. they pitch in 2 cents on every dollar after that, that'll give us enough money to do universal child care for every baby age 0-5, universal pre-k for every three and 4-year-old and raise the wages of every child care worker and preschoolteacher to
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the levels they deserve. that's how it is. look, high quality child care early on, high quality pre-k, that's all the difference in the world. and that should not be reserved for the children of the well-to-do. that's an investment we should make in every child in this country. >> so, senator, that's three plans already rolled out. >> i've still got more. >> i know you do, i know you do. i've been on your website. i want to talk about whether the plans can be reality. anyone can put something on -- donald trump can come to a place like fort wayne and say -- >> and he did. >> -- and he did. i'm going to wave the magic wand and the jobs are come back. how are you going to make the money. i'm going to talk about that after the break. don't go anywhere. ♪ limu emu & doug
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bankruptcy bill, and there were a bunch of politicians backing the credit card industry trying to make it harder for people to declare bankruptcy. >> that's right. >> you ended up going toe to toe with senators defending the credit card industry including one senator in particular. take a look. >> i submit, senator, that there are many in the credit industry right now who are getting their bankruptcies prepaid. that is they have squeezed enough out of these families in interests and fees and payments -- >> but what about usury rates. >> senator, i'll be the first. invite me. >> i know you will, but let's call a spade a spade. your problem with the credit card companies is usury rights in the position. it's not about the bankruptcy bill. >> senator, if you're not going to fix that problem, you can't take away the last shred of protection. okay. you're very good professor. thank you. >> do you remember that?
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>> yes. i used to dye my hair brown. >> what did you learn from that exchange that made you want to end up going into politics? >> that you don't get what you don't fight for. and that that's actually a good example. it's -- i got in there and fought for what i believed in. over a million families a year were filing for bankruptcy at the time that that was going on. there were people who had terrible medical problems, people had lost jobs for extended periods of time, people who had been left behind after a divorce or a death in the family. and those credit card companies, they just wanted to wring the last possible nickel out of them. those companies were profitable in the extreme, and do you know who they were making most of their money off? families that were just right at the edge.
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and they wanted to mauk ke it harder for those families when it all went completely wrong to get a chance to get back on thaur feet. i got in that fight, and i am proud to have been in that fight. >> so, that relates to the way power works in washington, something you've talked about a lot. frank, you wanted to say something before, and i want to ask you this. when you hear senator warren say we're going to spend $100 billion on this and a trillion on this, do you think in your head i can see that happening and making things better here or do you think to yourself that seems unlikely? >> it's hard to believe because first of all, we need to know where that money's coming from. does that mean my taxes are going up? does that mean the next guy's taxing are going up? where's that money coming from? and the thing is we get everybody promising manufacturing is coming back. we get people promising that health care is going to get better. we get people promising all this stuff and it never happens for a
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simple fact like on irs tax cut you have tax break for corporations that shut down here and move overseas. so, they get that 20% to move their equipment. we had trump came everywhere and said we're going to bring these jobs back. he told the guys in lordstown ohio. i've got good friends over there. they were told don't sell your homes, these jobs are going nowhere. the plants shut down. we just lost jobs at harley davidson. they lost their jobs in may. we lost rex in indianapolis. you can sit here and tell me that you're going to produce these green jobs, you're going to produce this, but you have all these uneducated people -- and i'm not saying they're uneducated. but they're not in that field, you know? you're saying we're going to bring these car companies back, so why don't we take the tax
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codes off that are given them and send them -- >> they're federal contracts. >> -- guys all this money. >> frank, i'm there. this is part of the plan. you're right to ask the question where does the money come from because what happened is, yeah, the guy made a lot of promises. but then they turned around and gave even more tax breaks. who did those tax breaks go to? they went to the biggest corporations. they kept the payments in there. so, in effect you can make money by shipping jobs overseas under our current tax code. so, here's how i propose to do this. we're going to do child care -- and by the way, we're going to do universal technical school, college. we're going to do student loan debt. we're going to do all of this with a two-cent wealth tax. that's a tax on the 50000000th and first dollar of the richest fortunes in this country. that's less than 1/10 of 1%.
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i'm guessing that's not you. you asked me if that's going to come, where it's going to come from. but the point is it comes from there. the other part of the money, the money we're talking about here for doing green manufacturing. where's that money going to come from? it's going to come from a couple of places. we're going to take away the subsidies from the oil and gas industry. [ applause ] >> the second is just what you said. we're going to take away the tax breaks for moving jobs overseas. and the third is we're going to say to the biggest corporations in america that publicly report huge profits to their investors, yes, i'm looking at you amazon, reports more than $10 billion in profits and sets their ceo compensation based on that, tells the investor community, and then turns around and pays 0
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in taxes. no more. we're going to have all these big companies and it reduces -- here's the key. that's how we get the money. and then the question is how we spend it. we can spend it on child care. we can spend it on student loans. we can spend it on green investment in manufacturing right here in america. here's the deal. i get why people feel discouraged. but the bottom line is this is a democracy. and in a democracy, we need our budget, our numbers, to align with our values. and our values are not that the top 1/10 of 1% keeps their 2 cents and nobody else gets -- >> but wait a second, their mitch mcconnell's values. you're not going to be elected ruler of the universe.
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let's say liz waelizabeth warre the president of the united states. >> say that again. >> they had to scratch and claw. they fought them tooth and nail, didn't give a single vote on the affordable care act and they had 60 votes. you're walking in. you've got a website of plans that pencil out and people might like, but in what universe are those going to be passed? >> so, that's the reason that i am here today, and it's the reason i've done 90 town halls. it's the reason i've been to 20 states and puerto rico and i'm going to more because the bottom line is we've got to build a grass roots movement across this country. we've got to do it. it's got to be all of us. and if we do, it doesn't just help the person at the top. that's how we take back the senate. that's how we take back the house. that's how we take back
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governors' offices and state houses and city councils. we build this thing up and down the line. >> we also need politicians and people in power like that to keep their word. >> yes, you do. >> when they say something, they knead to do it. >> the thing is we need to go back where -- no offense, senator -- where people like yourself and people like paul ryan and everybody else, they need to go back working for the american people because we're the ones that give them their paycheck. >> i agree. >> you know, you have policies in place where half of the republicans want to raise the retirement age to 68 or 69, but yet they could retire out of congress at 42, 45, and have health care the rest of their lives. i'm just saying. >> i think you're getting at a point which is profound here which is that the question is can you go -- given what's happening both with donald trump and the nature of the structure of the american economy and
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what's happened in places like fort wayne and all across indiana, four decades to come and say they will trust you in good faith, when you say they're going to bring the jobs back or we have a plan to change life here. >> we can give up. you're right. we can just totally give up and say hey, let them have it. or what we can say is this is the moment we fight. i am in this fight all the way. >> i want to -- i want to -- >> how do you address these small thinkers in congress? how are you going to get them to come to your big ideas? >> so, i'll tell you how. >> that's a good question. >> i'm counting on you, susan. and i'm counting on everybody in this room and i'm counting on millions of people who watch this. what i mean by that is yeah, it takes leadership from the white house. it takes the willingness to wade straight into the fight. but where it's really going to come from is when you build this grass roots movement, when you build this momentum, when people demand it, when people say this is the america i -- i want an
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america that invests in little kids. i want an america that cancels student loan debt. i want an america that invests in manufacturing here in this country. if we're -- >> we do the same jobs they do just as good. >> i'm with you. >> i just don't see anyone in congress or any of these high positions giving up any money. >> so -- >> i just don't see it happening. >> you're not wrong. >> here's the deal, the in a democracy we're talking about -- you're asking for two cents from .1 of 1% of the people. the rest of us have awe say in that. we set the tax laws. if we're willing to get out there and fight for it, the politicians, more of them are going to fall into line. remember on health care, i was
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in the senate when -- we didn't have the votes to stop the republicans from repealing health care for tens of millions of americans. but what happened? people from all over this country made their voices heard. >> yep. >> they came to washington. people in wheelchairs came to washington. people -- mamas pushes the litt littlest lobbyists, little babies with serious medical problems. they got right in the faces of those senators. and at the end of the day -- at the end of the day, it was the people across this country who pushed and pushed and pushed and we got the votes and we saved health care for tens of millions of americans. >> i think having watched the way these political dynamics manifest, it does matter whether people are willing to pick fights or not. >> yeah. >> it really does. you say you're a fighter. do you trust that every other democrat in this primary field is a fighter in the same way?
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>> i know why i'm here. i'm here because i'm a fighter. >> so, that's a no? >> exactly. >> look -- >> it's a serious question. >> i'm not here to talk about other democrats. i'm not here to slam other democrats. i'm just telling you how i see it. this is the fight that i believe we need. >> back to the issue, once we do, do they honor their promises? >> that's right. >> do they honor their policies they're going to put in place. >> you with issue with trump and believing him and him backing you, how is your vote swaying? are you going uneasy? do you know? are you going to back her? >> we won't get into him. he's the first republican i ever voted for. and i got a lot of people to vote for him. i believed in him. >> and that was just for your job security sake and that's it. >> no, no, no. it wasn't just the job security.
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and ask about saving $1000 on your walk-in bath, or visit for more info. we are back here in fort wayne, indiana. i want to ask questions of the crowd, but before i do that, senator warren, what is your biggest frustration with the way that the campaign gets covered? >> too much like a horse race. this isn't a horse race. this is about the future of our country. and it's about how we see the direction we want to go. you know, i think every one of the things we talk about, we call them policy. we call them budgets. they're really about our values.
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and their a statement of what kind of a country we want to be and what a people we want to be. and i wish we could do more of that in our big national conversation. >> so, we're going to go -- one of you had a horse race question, i hope you're reconsidering. >> that's right. that's right. >> you sir, give me your name and tell me what your question is. >> my name is austin. >> hi, austin. >> my question is climate change is real and we've got to get going on it. gm is one of our largest employers, how do we make sure that factory is not negatively impacted by your policies. >> good question. >> great question. >> here's how we have to think about this. we've got to know what the goal is. this is what the green new deal is all about. it tells us two things. it tells us that this is an emergency, and it tells us where we've got to head. it was a lot like for me what it was like landing on the moon. john f. kennedy set the goal,
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said i want to be on the moon, set a time he wanted to do it. people looked and said i don't know how we land on the moon. but what did we do? we invested in science. we innovated like crazy. and we counted on american workers. we do those three things right here in america, we can not only clean up our country and clean up our planet, we can actually build a manufacturing future for the united states of america. and that's good jobs right there. >> but there's -- just to follow up on that, right? it's a great question because there's -- if they're making big trucks that get 14 miles a gallon, that factory's either going to have to shut down or be remade. there's industries like oil extraction and natural gas that are -- there's no way to make them green, right? there are going to be folks that lose jobs in those industries. >> look, what there's going to
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be is a lot of change but that's how america has always flourished. we didn't make ourselves into a country that says this works. we're stopping right here. we have always been a country that has innovated, that has has innovated, that has changed. what troubles me right now is the way this administration keeps trying to deny science across the board. listen, that's not going to work. that's why my plan starts by increasing by tenfold the amount of money that we put in to scientific research and r&d, that's how we start building a future and then we innovate around that. here's the hook in it that makes it different from where it was in the past. you don't say to giant corporations, like we did to apple, you all, taxpayers, you paid for the basic technology to
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develop that science, that technology that led to those fancy phones and then where did apple go build them? in china. this plan says american taxpayers will make the investment because we believe in building a future, but then you want to harvest that investment, you want to make big bucks on it, great it's a $23 trillion market out there, we want you to do it but you're going to do it by building the plants and having the jobs right here in the united states of america. >> tell me your name and your question. >> hi, senator, my name is court any. >> hi, courtney. >> when i ran for u.s. congress in 2018 -- >> yay! >> thank you. everyone wanted to know rightly so how i would work across the aisle and that is so important. but i want to know the one issue or piece of legislation you feel so strongly about you would not compromise on it? >> let me put it this way, i
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believe in working across the aisle when that lets us get things done. and can i do a short version of this, 40 million americans have hearing loss. but fewer than 1 in 6 actually gets a hearing aid. the reason is because they got a bazillion dollars and most people need two and they're not covered by insurance, by medicaid. they do without. why are they so expensive? the answer, it's one more market that doesn't work. a handful of manufacturers have controlled that market and have driven up prices. so i had an idea and a plan to say what we're going to do is manufacture, let anybody who wants to manufacture hearing aids, certain safety standards, sell them across the counter and drugstores. you can go pay for more or buy glassin glasses in a drugstore.
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i checked this out and people said that would work great it drives the price down from thousands of dollars to hundreds of dollars. i had this idea and the first person i called was a republican. i explained the deal to him, he said, what? and i explained it again and he said that's a fine idea, sign me up. called me another republican, he said sign me up. we did this under the radar screen at one point the nra came out in opposition, i kid you not -- >> it's true. >> -- but the point is, we got it through and next year people are going to be able to buy hearing aids over the counter, across the aisle. now can i finish courtney's question, though? >> yes. >> i do want to say on this, i was glad to do that and we made some changes in the bill, but we're talking about things like health care coverage. i'm not going to compromise when
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people say i want to take away health care coverage from 30 million people, say we'll take it away from 15 million and that's going to be okay. health care is a basic human right. we fight for basic human rights so i'm in all the way. thank you, courtney. >> so senator, i wanted you -- this is tj. >> tj? >> yes. he worked at the carrier plant, there was coverage of him asking donald trump to save the jobs at carrier, that's what prompted donald trump to tweet about it. you're a trump voter. >> no, i didn't vote for trump. no, no. >> okay. what is this -- are you -- what would you like to ask the senator? >> hi, tj. >> i'm from indianapolis. i worked at carrier, i still do, i'm a 17-year employee, thankfully my job was safed. i'm also with the united steelworkers union 1989. >> go steelworkers.
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>> i don't know much of your history with labor and organized labor, so what can we expect to see your support of organized labor and how we can get that brought back up in this country. >> let me do this two ways. i told you about all three of my brothers, military, first one was career, the second one came back and worked construction. he got a good union job. a good union job that let him support a family and put three kids through school. he has a pension today because he has a good union jobs. we want good jobs in america, we need stronger unions. the second is i'll just do it a little bit on the policy side. and that is to say we got a real problem in this country, and that's a handful of giant corporations that have so much power they just roll wherever they want to roll. they roll over their employees,
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their customers, their communities. we need structural change, and the way wi get structural change is we need more power back in the hands of employees. that means make it easier to join a union and give unions more power in negotiations. unions built america's middle class and will rebuild the middle class. >> thank you. there's a question over here that we cover on the show sometimes. >> my name is erin. >> hi, erin. how are you? >> good. do you believe still that impeachment is the right path forward and why or why not? >> yes, i do. and under this, erin. i didn't decide to run for president so that i could get into a big debate over impeachment. i decided to run because i was going to beat that guy, right, straight up. but the deal is, the mueller report came out and the
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afternoon it came out, i sat down and started reading it. i read it all afternoon, all night, into the next morning, all 448 pages. i got to the end and there were three things that are just, man, there's no avoiding them. part one, a hostile foreign government attacked our 2016 elections for the purpose of getting donald trump elected. part two, then candidate-donald trump welcomed that help. and part three, when the federal government tried to investigate part one and part two, donald trump, as president, delayed, deflected, moved, fired and did everything he could to obstruct justice. if he were any other person in the united states, based on what's documented in that report, he would be carried out in handcuffs.
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now, i took an oath of office not to donald trump, not to any president. i took an oath of office to the constitution of the united states of america. and that constitution says no one is above the law, including the president of the united states. i get that this is politically tough. i get it. but some things are bigger than politics. and this matters for our democracy not just now but under the next president and the next president and the next president. we have a constitutional responsibility here. and that's to start those impeachment proceedings. >> i want to ask you a final question, we have about a minute left. >> okay. >> i hear this from people, they say i like elizabeth warren.
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>> good. >> she seems smart, she has a lot of ideas. but i don't know, i feel like trump would beat her. it just doesn't work. i don't know if people are going to vote for her. what do you say to people who say i like you on the substance but i'm worried about your electability as your nominee for the democratic party? >> you know, i remember when people said barack obama couldn't be elected. i remember when people said donald trump could be elected. >> also true. >> and here we are. elections are about getting in there and fighting for it and making clear to the american people what you stand for. i got in this race because an america that keeps working better and better and better for a thinner and thinner slice at the top just isn't going to work. we can't sustain this. i am in this fight to make this america, to make our government in washington work for everyone else. that's my job.
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that's why i'm here. >> senator elizabeth warren, i want to thank all the folks here. thank you, senator. to our wonderful hosts here, to all the people in fort wayne, indiana did an amazing job hosting us. thank you. you can catch us every weekend at 8:00 right here on msnbc. welcome back to "kasie dc," i'm kasie hunt. we're live every sunday from washington from 7:00 to 9:00 p.m. eastern. tonight, welcome back mr. president. the president back on u.s. soil and on his golf course with a deal with mexico in hand, but howism impactful will it be with the number of people coming to the southern border still on the rise. a as the number of democrats


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