tv The 11th Hour With Brian Williams MSNBC June 28, 2019 8:00pm-9:00pm PDT
>> neil, thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. that is tonight's last word. the 11th hour starts now with brian williams. tonight donald trump sends a twitter invite to kim jong-un and jokes about election interference with the man accused of interfering in our election. while serious people looking on find nothing to laugh about. plus the fallout after two nights of debates, 20 democrats spread over four hours. there was one moment there that tonight has forced the front runner into damage control. and this week's overlook legal headline included a pal manafort perp walk and the supreme court decision. all of it has the 11th hour gets underway on a friday night. >> well, good evening once again from our nbc news head quarters here in new york. day 890 of the trump administration. however, it's day 891 where the
president is, in japan, where it's saturday morning. the president capped off his day of meetings at the g-20 summit with this twitter. after some very important meeting including my meeting with president xi of china, i will be leaving japan for south korea with president moon. while there if chairman kim of north korea sees this, i would meet him at the border dmz just to shake his hand and say hello. not long after hitting send on that, reporters in japan asked about the invitation. >> i just put
out a feeler. because i don't know where he is right now. he may not be in north korea. i said if chairman kim would want to meet, i'll be at the border. i'd certainly -- we seem to get along very well. for the stupid people that say he gets along, it's good to get along. because frankly, if i didn't become president, you'd be right now in a war with north korea. you'd be having a war right now with north korea, and that's a
certainty. >> much more on that just ahead. trump has already met with vladimir putin at the g-20 summit. the two greeting each other like old friends. at this point it's important to remember this is their first sit-down since robert mueller reported and we quote, the russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election and sweeping and system attic fashion. we assessed vladimir putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the u.s. presidential election. mueller also reported it was aimed at helping donald trump. during today's face to face meeting with putin, trump seemed to make light of the interference. >> about those optics, the former u.s. ambassador to russia wrote this today. why does trump so desire putin's approval? there is something so unnatural,
strange, and troubling about his fealty before putin, especially when he was in putin's presence. that from ambassador michael mcfall. the white house says the two leaders went to meet behind closed doors for nearly an hour. prior to departing trump said their discussions were none of our business. indeed, the white house says election interference did not come up in today's discussion. trump's past meetings have been notable for remarks seeming to an solve the kremlin in meddling even though 16 intelligence agencies said that russia was indeed responsible. >> i believe that president putin really feels and he feels strongly that he did not mettle in our election. what he believes is what he believes. >> i addressed the issue of russian interference in our elections with president putin. i felt this was a message best
delivered in person. spent a great deal of time talking about it. my people came to me and said they think it's russia. i have president putin. he just said it's not russia. i will say this. i don't see any reason why it would be. >> those comments you'll recall in ignited criticism at home as did trump's more recent interview with abc news, the one where he admitted where if offered foreign dirt on a political opponent he'd take it. and on the question of what russia may have done for donald trump, today 94-year-old former president jimmy carter went there during an interview with the historian and author john meacham. he questioned the legitimacy of trump's presidency. >> there's no doubt the russians did interfere in the election, and i think the interference although not yet quantified, would show trump didn't actually
win the election in 2016. he lost the election and he was put into office because the russians interfered on his behalf. >> do you believe president trump is an ilegitimate president? >> based on what i said which i can't retract. >> by the way, returning the spirit of friendship here's part of what putin said about trump in an interview just this week. i think that he is a talented person. he knows very well what his voters expect from him. and while we were all in the midst of covering two debates over two nights, this indelible image was all but lost. paul manafort in cuffs in prison clothes being walked down a hallway about to face new york state charges. multiple fraud chargesed in midst of the federal prison sentence he's serving. he pleaded not guilty to the new
charges. nonetheless, an arresting image of the man who was once chairman of donald trump's campaign. which brings us to our leadoff discussion on a friday night. shannon pettypiece, white house correspondent for bloomberg. frank figluusi, and frank rosenberg, former senior fbi official who served as counselor for a time to robert mueller. also happens to be the host of "the oath" with chuck rosenberg. latest episode features james comey. frank, in your professional opinion, what's it like to watch the president and putin again today? >> a couple thoughts, brian. first, every american who cares about national security should be deeply offended by the fact that the best our president could muster today was a joking admonition to putin to hey, don't interfere again and smile, joke. it's not funny. the security of our elections is
not funny. observation number two. it's clear world leaders have figured president trump out. psychologically assessed him and figured out you can manipulate and drive his conduct through ego stroking. in a clip earlier you could see putin mirroring the posture of trump. putin has straight posture. he's leaning over, shoulders slouched as trump often does. that helps trump feel comfortable but feels like he's aligned and allied with putin. our foreign policy is essentially being driven and manipulated by how well you can stroke this president's ego. >> frank, that's psych 101. job candidates are told if they wish if they want to try it, to mirror the person they are interviewing with for a job. it's supposed to make that person feel oddly more comfortable in ways they haven't grasped. >> well, and the president falls for it quite easily it appears.
the thing that i think is most disturbing. it's kind of psych 101. our allies try it and then they get slapped down anyway. so everybody is trying it, but it only seems to work with adversaries, dictators, killers, and so we're left with two possible theories. one, this president is compromised in some way, shape, or form, personally or professionally. that's causing him to buddy up with putin. or worse, could be that he sees himself psych logically as a dictator, a killer, a tyrant, and he envies their position and wants to be them. >> that's reassuring. shannon, in addition to the president calling american journalists fake news in front of the world and the russian president, and the president joking about interfeerns in our election, i'm going to quote here. it could have been expected according to his current and former advisers. they say trump often bristles at
being told what to say or do so when pushed the president simply mocks what is expected of him, speaking of psych 101, even when it comes to russia. shannon, of course, the question is how do the adults around trump react because they keep calendars, and they know mr. mueller is testifying just for starters a couple days from now. >> well, of course the president has had a big issue with this allegation of russian election interference. he and even those close to him who helped get him elected feels it undermines his 2016 victory. when that question was shouted at him, he could have ignored it, but he chose to wade in it. he chose to make the comments he made. there was a group earlier this week of top intelligence officials, top law enforcement officials, top administration officials who held a conference call with reporters on election meddling. where they specifically said that russia, china and iran were
working on efforts to influence the 2020 election. they said russia was still engaged in this type of social media communication manipulation behavior. at the time my colleagues and i kind of wondered why they were holding this call now. it seemed unusual timing. and i apologize for speculating. i can only speculate, but now looking at where we are today with election interference coming up again, having this information from a few days ago about the urgency the administration -- these administration officials felt about election interference is useful. so i mean, despite what the president is saying there's still a large group in the government that is working on this. if you don't have a president who is going to tell putin to knock it out, the best we seem to be able to do is defense. >> chuck rosenberg, like our other guests, i don't know your politics and i don't care to know. with that as the predicate, i'll ask you a hypothetical. if you were the democrats on the
hill, investigating this guy, how big a thumb in the eye is it with him joking about election interference and remember, we american citizens who have a stake in this because we're staring the next presidential election in the face? >> it's despicable behavior, brian, but it's not new. i mean, look, at one level the russian interference in the election was designed to undermine hillary clinton. they hacked into her campaign accounts. and into the dnc, but at a much broader, much higher and much more important level, it was an attack on america. at the outset of this program you said it was day 890 of the trump presidency. and so i would submit to you it's time for him to start acting like a president whose nation has been attacked. i understand that he feels that it undermines the legitimacy of his election. he is the president. behave like one. >> shannon, i referenced this clip earlier. i want to play it for our
audience. here's what the president said about us and our colleagues in the news media in front of putin. >> . >> yeah, we got the same problem too back home. looking at the comment, weigh it against how russia has had journalists killed j shannon. it's just and obviously there's going to be oversensitivity in the journalism community, but it's an incredible thing to hear all over again. >> right. on the one-year anniversary of the capital gazette shooting. >> annapolis. >> right. and obviously why don't they have a problem with, quote, fake news in russia? it's because they arrest and they murder journalists there. outright murder them.
i know that the president has been explained why this phrase fake news is detriment tall not only to the u.s. but international media, the publisher of the new york times said he went in and talked to the president and explained to him how while it might seem like a politically clever thing to say to help him in the u.s., it is putting journalists lives at danger in authoritarian countries around the world, russia included. so the president is aware of this. he knows what's happening, and i think it's almost one thing when he uses it at a rally as a sort of political tool, but then to use it to another foreign leader who murders journalists is -- seems to be a different level. >> frank, i know you regard former feds, current feds as your brothers and sisters have, and given so many years of your life in federal service, and from time to time i like to
check in with you on the morale as you're hearing it, as you perceive it, because times remain tough for the rigor of office, for all those charged, especially in your line of work in counterintelligence. >> i have some better news to report. this -- i think you're right to check in periodically. it does wax and wane. and i think what i'm hearing recently is that people within the ranks understand where this president is coming from. understand now that what they've signed up for is essentially periodic bashings. they understand that in the form of the fbi director, chris ray has their back. they're still going about their work and public corruption and civil rights and counterterrorism and counterintelligence. i think we may even see some glimpses of that come out perhaps as mueller testifies on jewel 17th. and in particular, as his team behind closed doors shares what they know with house and/or
senate intelligence committees. we may here a little bit, just a little bit about the counterintelligence work of the fbi. >> okay. chuck, i haven't talked to you either since we learned that mueller will indeed testify. it will be an event. it's going to be on live television, of course. give us, given your knowledge of the man, give us a kind of viewer's guide, a preview. what do you think we'll see? >> sure. well, the first thing you'll see is what mueller told you you would see if he were made to testify. and that is he will not stray beyond the report. that report is extraordinarily compelling, by the way. so point number two, brian, is that even if he sticks strictly to the report, and i expect that he will, what's in it tells one heck of a story. not just on russian interference which is in volume one of the report. but also on the president's obstruction of justice in volume two. and so look, i get the fact that most people would rather see the movie than read the book. although, the book is compelling. this will be the movie version.
and bob mueller will stick to the script. i hate to mix metaphors on you there. he'll stick to the script and stay within the four corners of the report. it tells a heck of a tale. >> this calls for a judgment on your part. if they ask him straight up, head on, the president's going out there saying no obstruction, no collusion, is it true? should he be able to say that, do you think they'll get a sound bite from mueller or a tortured answer from mueller? >> more likely the latter. you know, look, on one level i hope this doesn't reduce the sound bites or to gaffes or quips or an eye roll, because the report is 428 pages. not a moment. it's really a tapestry. the way mueller described it and has described it publicly and in the report, is that if we could have exonerated the president on obstruction of justice, we would have done so. we could not. and so i expect you'll hear
something like that formulation when he testifies. those are really important words, brian. and people should listen for them. >> much obliged to our big three for contributing so much tonight. shannon, frank, and chuck, thank you all three for coming on tonight. and coming up for us, the president's invite to meet cute with the north korean dictator at the dmz. we'll run the whole idea of it past a retired four star general. and later as the dust settles after two days of debates, where the various democratic candidates go or don't go from here. as the 11th hour is just getting started on this friday night. frt my experience with usaa has been excellent. they really appreciate the military family and it really shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. it was funny because when we would call another insurance company, hey would say "oh we can't beat usaa" we're the webber family.
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that group photo of the president between the leaders of saudi arabia and turkey as we mentioned president trump suggested he would be willing to meet with north korean dictator kim jong-un during a visit to south korea this weekend. this bares repeating. the president put it this way. after some very important meetings including my meeting with president xi of china, i will be leaving japan for south korea with president moon. while there, if chairman kim of north korea sees this, i would meet him at the border dmz just to shake his hand and say hello. i suppose we could pass him a note during home room or wait by his locker. president trump was asked about the post earlier today
in japan. >> all i did was put out a feeler if he'd like to meet.
he sent me a very beautiful birthday card, and what i did is -- and i guess he got my return letter because it's in the newspapers, him reading the return letter. but i just put out, i thought of out this morning. we may go to the dmz or the border, as they call it.
when you talk about a wall, a border, that's what they call a border. nobody goes through that border. just about nobody. >> the white house declined to comment about any potential meeting beyond the president's comments there. josh letterman traveling with the president in japan points out if the meeting were to transpire, it would be the first time a u.s. and north korean leader have met in the dmz which despite its name is -- >> we have retired four-star and ground commander in the gulf war
and a veteran of the region under discussion here tonight. hard to know where to begin. the president may not realize he has people for that if he wants to extend an invitation. if you're our allies in the region, if you're japan, if you're south korea, how do you view an invitation to meet a guy not just a guy, but kim jong-un at the dmz via twitter in. >> you know, the north koreans have a small group of intelligence people who speak and read english and read our publications and watch our tv. they have to go in and brief kim jong-un on their conclusions. i'll bet they don't have a clue to to tell him. and if you have it wrong with kim jong-un, you might get shot. this is a bizarre situation. kim jong-un has 100,000 people in the gulog. he's shot dead in public
execution several hundred of his people. he may have as many as 60 nuclear weapons right now continually producing material. it's hard to imagine what he's doing, and more importantly, his actions have left the japanese the south koreans, the australians, the people our allies in the region trying to sort out where will they be in five years? are we leaving in are we abandoning our defense alliance? it's a very dangerous situation for u.s. foreign policy. >> and more than that, we have these two leaders swooning over each other's letterhead and letters to each other. we have our president making a public invitation. and you've made the point the north koreans and their leader crave relevance. this makes them relevant in the eyes of the world. >> sure. yeah. president trump's actually going to north korea and getting nothing in return.
and brian, i wouldn't agree that kim jong-un is swooning over mr. trump. he may not be able to believe his good fortune, but he probably is confused as to what's going on. but clearly blandishments, ego stroking of kim jong-un won't have any impact whatsoever on his decision making. the best that could come out of this is another gesture of public diplomacy, of friendship, of photo op. i think mr. trump spends a lot of time in the moment enjoying the moment. the attention. >> i'm going to play for you a clip from a u.s. veteran, mayor pete, a man you've spoken about in very complementary terms. here's something he said last night about the damage extent around the world. >> we have no idea which are our most allies he will have pissed
off most between now and then. we have to model american values at home. >> he raises a serious point. do you think that the strains that we have currently with our oldest friends in the world can be put back? will be okay in the long scope of history post donald trump whenever that is? >>. >> i assume so. look, most allied nations the germans, french, brits, south koreans, they have hundreds of thousands of students and businessmen here. they understand american values. they have great respect for the power and the discipline of the u.s. armed forces. in the long run, maybe this will be okay, but there's no question that we have -- the president has praised and complimented and identified with the pheens, the
erdogan, with putin, with kim jong-un, it's a bizarre situation. at the same time turning on these life-long allies. american security is fundamentally based on nato, and our alliances of south korea, japan and australia. he's called into question the value of being our ally. it's hard to imagine that there isn't a lot of short-term damage, and they're watching the 2020 election and saying do we have this guy for another four years? so that's an active question in u.s. national security. >> chilling neat to end on. general, thank you so much for joining us. it's always a pleasure to have you. coming up, a look at the second night of the two nights of democratic debates when we come right back. s when we come right back. somebody living with hiv?
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i heard and i listened to, and i respect senator harris, but we all know that thirty-seconds to 60 seconds on a campaign debate exchange can't do justice oh a lifetime committed to civil rights. i want to be absolutely clear about my record and position on racial justice including bussing. i never, never, never, ever opposed voluntary bussing. >> joe biden back on the campaign trail attempting to clarify his commitment to civil rights there. the former vice president has
come under fire for his relationship with two segregationist senators for opposing bussing as a way to desegregate schools most pointedly by kamala harris in what became an instantly indelible moment from last night's debate. >> i do not believe you are a racist. and i agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground. but i also believe, and it's personal, and i was actually very -- it was hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two united states senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country. and it was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose bussing. and you know, there was a little girl in california who was part
of this second class to integrate her public schools and she was bussed to school every day, and that little girl was me. >> here with us tonight, jackie alamani, author of the papers morning newsletter power up. usually comes out at the same time we're powering down, and amy stod ard from real clear politics. welcome to you both. there's a cruel phrase and a cruel thing about politics. if you're explaining, you're losing. biden was explaining. >> i don't think it's a fatal blow. it's early. but brian, he had a bad night, and i did not think his cleanup was effective today. it fell flat. he explained protecting civil rights and working to defend them, but his other explanation about bussing and his kind of
trying to use the obama years to kind of get mad and get fired up was not really well-received in the room. and it just is -- it's -- he's not using his strength. he seemed overwhelmed by the democratic party of 2019 last night. he seemed defensive. his strength is his electability. it's why he's polling more than 50% in a 23-person field with nonwhite voters. people believe he could step in and do the job better even if he napped for four years with a staff that would be better for this country than donald trump's presidency. he didn't say that last night. he's not telling the voters this is no time for on the job training which is how speaker pelosi got elected to her speakership a second time. unless he tells voters this is what i have over these new young folks with their different ideas, he's going to look like
he looked last night. insecure and overwhelmed. >> beautifully said. jackie, you wrote beautifully about what we witnessed last night. that senator harris not only took the torch from joe biden. show stole his thunder right there on the stage as we watched. can he succeed if he doesn't come at a new way of owning the past? i suppose he runs the risk of running out of ways to say you had to be there. >> yeah. he's in a tough position. he doesn't want to be constantly apologizing for all his past positions. at the same time he was a stark contrast to someone like mayor pete who just embraced accountability and responsibility and it was pretty refreshing at least according to some of the focus groups that i was listening to throughout the night. but, again, it's difficult to make predictions right now. but it seems that joe biden really does seem to lack a
vision. he spent the day talking about bussing, not talking about a criminal justice reform platform or his vision for what he wants the presidency to look like. and i think if he especially is going to be running on this idea of electability, he needs to come up with a more salient vision for what a biden 2020 white house is going to look like. >> and ab, you put it so well, the democratic party of 2019. i always say steve jobs told us everyone needs to have an opinion. we want to hear from everyone. well, be careful what you wish for, because now we hear from everyone and that whole trend has risen in the latter half of joe biden's political career. it's tough out there in a way it wasn't tough when joe biden's political career was coming up. >> right. i mean, it is a totally different party, a totally
different country. and the way to not be apologizing for the past but as you say, it was different back then, to explain in the arc of my 50 years in public service or whatever it is, 48, things have changed. i've changed with the times in this way. i see your point that in some ways you can't understand our perspective back then. there's a way to sort of have this conversation like i say. playing to his strengths. he wasn't doing it last night or today. what he brings to the table is that -- is sort of stability and expertise and experience and relationships around the world. and a perfectly presidential staff of people ready to step in and do this all. he's actually really sort of done this job. and that's not what he's selling the people of a very different democratic party. and so i do think it's very significant, the support that he has. like i said, among nonwhite
voters who just want to beat donald trump who are looking for a pragmatic swallow your medicine nomination here. they don't want to mess around. but he should have made that case. he should be on that stage saying look, i understand. it's a new generation. of course i'll pick a vice president that will be of the next generation in the future, but right now we need this time out. we need to fix some things, and i'm uniquely positioned for that. in and just not a case he's making. >> someone said in the moment last night on the stage last night, senator harris was all candle power. jackie and ab, have agreed to stay with us. a quick break and coming up. the elephant in the room last night was on the other side of the world in japan. president trump's reaction to his competition and how we know about it. that when we continue. hi, do you have a travel card? we do! the discover it® miles card. earn unlimited 1.5 miles on every purchase, plus we'll match your miles
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the american people understand that trump is a phony. that trump is a path loological liar and a racist and that he lied to the american people. >> donald trump thinks wall street built america. >> one of the worst things president trump has done to this country is he's torn apart the moral fabric of who we are. >> where was that question when they passed a tax -- >> for those who watched both nights along with us, very different dynamic as you saw on night two of this first round of debates. by a washington post count democrats mentioned trump nearly twice as many times. ashly parker at the post summed it up this way. during the second night on thursday trump was the boogie man that everyone named. a charlotte and a fraud, a fabulous, a hater of immigrants a separator of families, a
supporter of white supremacist and in the words of former colorado governor, john hickenlooper, the worst president in american history. our guests remain with us. jackie, about socialism, the s-word, i want to run this from president trump. he summed up what he saw on stage from the democrats. we'll discuss it with you on the other side. >> i've
been watching the debates a little bit inbetween meetings, and i wasn't impressed. but when you look at the socialism and what it can do, that's what you're talking about there. and that's become like the socialist party. in fact, i inherited -- there's a rumor the democrats are change to change their name from the democrat party to the socialist party. i'm hearing that. >> of course you have bernie sanders out there giving speeches about the gifts of socialism. this is a strategy we're playing out and some of the democrats are walking into it.
>> that's right. we're going to see this strategy used on people even like joe biden and harris who are self-described pragmatists. i've spoken with trump campaign officials over the past few months as they've been gearing up to launch the president's campaign. this is what they're going to try to do time and time again. show the democratic party of 2020 is beholden to the progressive wing, the aoc and green new deal. that was illustrated by biden flip-flopping in a hyde amendment. and also last night when every single candidate raised their hand when asked if their health care plan covers immigrants. the president tweeted about it immediately. but that's why i think kamala harris was so effective last night. i think that she was able to sort of transcend this idea of ideology and this tension between the progressive wing and
bipartisan pragmatists through her force of personality and the way that she was able to really weave together attacks and her narrative and present herself. i think as a direct contrast to the president himself rather than as a faker of the left or the more moderate democratic party. >> and ab, jackie mentioned the president himself. why do you think there was night one reticence about using his name. democrats are angry at him. >> right. it is the most unifying argument in what i think is a divided party to talk about defeating president trump. and it's obviously effective when it's used. you saw it last night. i don't blame the democrats in the first round for resisting it, because they were on stage with cory booker who has been basically saying that defeating trump is only the beginning. the party has to stand for things -- solutions to the
problems that the country faces beyond the presidency of president trump. and so i think that they can't really win. if they don't attack trump, people say what's going on? and at the same time if they spend too much time just speaking about him, they're a party with no ideas. i do think they were trying at least the contenders in the first group to make the case that they're about other things and they thought long and hard about what ails the country. on the socialism thing, the president could not be happier with the last two nights. all hands in the air on coverage for health care coverage for illegal immigrants. this kind of thing about socialism, and kamala harris is embarrassing retreat on whether she thought she heard she'd give up her own insurance. she ran into this at a jake tapper town hall. she said yes, get rid of the insurers. she caught heat for it.
the idea she would wake up and say that's not what she was for is because everyone was concerned the star of the two nights of debates trapped herself by saying get rid of private insurance that most americans have and like. i think they're making it a choice for the president instead of a referendum, and that's exactly what donald trump wants. >> jackie and ab, two of the by lines we ask our viewers to look for. thank you for coming on with us tonight. and coming up, the two big decisions from the supreme court this week and a third case they have agreed to take on as an intern runs to the curb to the camera crew with another ruling as the 11th hour continues. staining be done... and stay done through every season. ♪ behr semi-transparent stain, overall #1 rated.
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childhood arrivals program. the court had a blow to the trump administration, which put on hold, questions of citizenship on the 2020 census. they ruled that federal courts cannot stop partisan gerrymandering. a mixed bag with us tonight. the aforementioned josh gerstein, senior legal affairs for politico. on daca, why is it taking it so long? if they hear it in october, that could be a wait for a year from now for an opinion. >> that's true. what's fascinating about the daca case is the the way the su dries to dodge a political bullet here and they catch one in the end.
it has been a year and a half for the trump administration to rescue their plan to end the daca, that would end protection for 700,000 people in the country illegally or came in as children. that's been a year and a half in the making. finally today, the supreme court said, we'll wait to this dispute, the convention among court watchers was the court didn't want to take it into their realm, when they thought the political branches right have worked it out. they've given up on that. but the schedule for this case is it's going to be briefed and argued and decided at the height of the presidential campaign, when the political stakes for it, really couldn't be more acute. >> cruising around the web today, i saw a lot of your colleagues covering the court, writing news analysis pieces, in some form or fashion, saying chief justice john roberts is the new swing vote for better or
worse. do you cononcur? and why would that be important? >> i do concur. but it's not new. it's been seven years in the making since the first obamacare decision. there were other decisions around that time when it seemed like we were referring to roberts as wobbly roberts sometimes. not that he was really a consistent swing justice. but there were indications that he was not as reliable a conservative as many conservatives would have liked. and we saw another obamacare ruling after that. and a few other decisions. then, finally, just in the last couple days, this citizenship decision for the citizenship question, on the census, where roberts sided with the court's four liberals. it really was disappointing to many conservatives, although whether it's the most significant decision in the long term can be debated. but there's no question that there is a sense of buyers'
remor remorse. >> earl warren was the whole court when the court spoke on big matters. this will get interesting this roberts theory, if we go into matters involving president trump. >> that's true. and roberts has had it out, kind of, with president trump. you may remember when trump was going after what he called obama judges, there was really no need for it. but chief justice john roberts said there are no obama judges, no trump judges. it was a direct brushback to the president that i can't recall ever seeing in public from a chief justice in the modern era. there's a little bit of bad blood already between the two men. it will be interesting to see how they play out over the next term. >> again, to our viewers, here's another important by line to look for. josh gerstein. thank you for coming on our broadcast. coming up for us, marking
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♪ last thing before we go tonight, is the effort to mark two very different 50th anniversaries. one of them from a time that we were at our very best. the other, not so much. first off, remembering the summer of '69 by exactly re-creating the place that gave us with what is possibly the crowning achievement of american science, technology, and bravery. the apollo 11 moon mission. mission control in houston already a national historic landmark, has now been totally redone, as an exact replica of how it was during the moon mission, minus the guys smoking cigarettes at each workstation. some of the ashtrays and coffee
cups were found on ebay. and they pieced it together when that room seemed like the center of the world. when the people in that room guided our first other worldly steps 50 years ago this summer. then, there was today's 50th anniversary gathering in the greenwich village section of new york city to commemorate the stonewall riots. stonewall was a guy bar that was owned by a mobster in '69. police raids were common back then. what made this one different was the patrons and the crowd fought back that night. they had no idea of knowing that a messy and violent brawl would be looked back upon as history, taking a stand against a decades' long struggle. we are a different society today. but 30 states have practices.
it was dangerous and difficult work in the streets of this city, half a century ago this summer. that is our broadcast for this friday night and for this week. have a good weekend. thank you for being here with us. good night from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. ♪ i just flew in from miami and boy are my arms tired. you knew it was coming. the reason my arms are tired is because i landed in time to watch the end of the u.s. women's soccer team match where they beat france. that amazing game. there was a lot of hands in the air cheering and fist pumping and very exciting. usa, usa, usa. it has been just super exciting few days. i can barely tell whether i am coming or going. i'm so excited still and so fried. this might be one of those shows