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that wraps it up for this hour. i'm philip and now turn it over to reverend al sharpton in "politics nation." good evening and welcome to "politics nation." the lead tonight, send him back, to sunday school. earlier this week, donald trump went down to the bible belt for a campaign rally and he took his base to church. the church of white identity politics. and instead of preaching as jesus did, jesus who loves all the little children of the world, black and white, president trump continued to demonize four congresswomen of color, focusing his wrath on a
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war refugee, resoundingly elected on a message this president cannot understand. making america great in the future. so after this dramatic week-long feud between the so-called squad and our president who throws a tweet and hides his phone, it is, again, resoundingly clear that president trump equates being american with being at least culturally white. and he knows that his base does as well. it's precisely why the president hasn't bothered attacking the so-called squad's policy positions. their support for medicare for all, or their support of the green new deal. that would require nuance and reading. no, he just went with what has worked for the last three years. hollow charges of socialism and anti-semitic and his version of going high and, of course, race
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and ethnicity. and it was like manna from heaven for an almost exclusively white north carolina crowd that took up the president's call wednesday to have elected leaders of color banished for daring to improve it, a message that has resonated so much that a president born and raised in new york city is polling upwards among southern voters. 54% of whom approve of his job performance, according to the latest nbc news surveymonkey poll. so i start today with the same question as "the charlotte observer." that's north carolina, y'all, whose editorial board asks this all the party this week. quote, are you okay with a racist republican, a racist president, republicans?
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joining me now to political strategists on the left of your screen, democrat don callaway and republican reena shaw is on the right. well, the crowd chanting, by the way, was almost exclusively white. let me ask you, reena, the same question that we saw in the paper there in north carolina. are republicans all right with a racist president? >> you know, i still believe in the good of republicans in this country and i know that's so hard for so many viewers to hear, but there are so many good americans out there who lack the moral courage to speak out and thinking a lot about race in our democracy. i often appear on this network and love to wear a black blazer but not only because the heat is really tough here in dc, but i wanted to wear something sleeveless because look at the color of my skin. i get it. i know that i'm a woman who is
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brown and i am an american by birth. i'm as american as apple pie, and i want people to see my color and realize that i am having a moment here where i am, of course, incredibly saddened, irritated, angered. i've gone through the range of emotions this week. it was harder than ever for me this week because that squad of democratic congresswomen, they are around my age. these are women i should see myself and identify with and i did identify with them, sure, i have policy differences with them. but this week became very hard for me because i have refrained from name-calling and now i know that the president of the united states is a racist, for sure, because it has hit too close for home to abstain to call him anything but that anymore. and i want people to know when i say there are good republicans out there, i am trying to find the good in everything. that's how we exist in this country. that's how we do politics in
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this country, is find the good in people. >> i hear rina and in many ways, happy to hear someone say that, but where are the republicans in the senate and in the congress? when the congress voted this week to denounce his racist remarks, only four republicans, four. >> 187-4. where's the ben sasse? i will not say all republicans are racist but the racists who have chosen to participate in the two-party system. i have much love for rina and been in dc and a good-hearted republican, but the problem is that this is no longer the republican party that we know, that we grew up with. this is the party of trump. they have no identity outside of white nationalism. >> they have no courage. we're not talking about rina. we're talking about my congress,
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mitch mcconnell. >> mcconnell, we know he is. where's jeff flake? olympia snow, who were supposed to be the moderators? lindsey graham, for that matter. >> i'll get to lindsey graham. somebody call and tell him, i'm going to get to him. but let me bring this in. rina, marks the tenth anniversary of president obama's infamous summit where he hosted basically a rap session between a white police officer and harvard professor henry louis gates after gates was arrested on suspicion. he was breaking into his own massachusetts home. the president criticized the arrest, right wingers criticized his criticism and you've got that beer summit as damage control. it was one of the many examples of a black president constantly being held to certain standards on race, even those controversies, he didn't literally speak into existence and then president trump who
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says blatantly racist things, offers no apology, and faces no rebuke from his party. as you saw in the south, his numbers are actually up. your thoughts, rina? >> you know, when i was growing up in the '90s, there was always that saying, sticks and stones may break my bones but your words will never hurt me and now that i'm at the ripe old age of 35, i know that words hurt and there are so many people across this country that words have hurt terribly. i'm one of those people because i've been told to get out of this country when i spoke out against then candidate trump in 2016. i was met with a lot of criticism and i don't know if those people were republicans in name. i know they were supporters of the president. and what's happened is that we are in this moment where we don't talk about solutions and ideas. the real things we care about are our values. instead, we hide behind what's cheap and what's easy and i want to be productive in this moment, rev. talk about how we can be solutions-oriented because we're so fractured as a country when we can't have those
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uncomfortable conversations with people who don't look like us or think like us and we hide behind our technology and we allow our leaders, our quote unquote leaders, the man who occupies the oval office, to peddle in, we lack moral courage, leaders who lack moral courage to speak out and say something, make the intelligent arguments for why we cannot let this happen any longer. we don't talk about history in a responsible manner. we don't talk about the constitution in a responsible manner and just call upon my fellow americans, have those uncomfortable conversations in your community. don't hide behind a screen. get out there and think of others. empathize. let's connect. let's re-connect as a country. we are so afraid to do that because of technology, that we let these people continue to erode our public discourse and that's going to continue to happen if we don't take this back into our hands and say, you know what? you're just as american as me,
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even if you immigrated from somalia. >> i think, don, the question here s how we get to that conversation without first clearly saying what should not be in the conversation because we're not just talking about somebody conversing here. we're talking about the president of the united states. over the last decades, i've been in places where people told me, go back to africa, used to pulling by people with trucks with confederate flags yelling that but you're talking about somebody that sits in the oval office who didn't have to back up and then charges back, reaffirming what he is saying and to quote congressman jeffries, let me say on the record, i agree with him, everybody who voted donald trump is a racist but i do think every racist for donald trump. >> not only did every racist vote for donald trump but decided that racism was not a deal breaker. so rina will try to be practical in this. let's be productive. we're not going to get donald trump to go to the magnitude of
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the office in the next 15 months. so i just want to put out there to those of you who listen, let's stay woke here. what he's doing is signaling is this is how, the way he treated the squad this week and congresswoman i'omar, this is h he will distance white people in the country from a democratic nominee, kamala harris. she's other than. immigrants, not an american and that's how he will campaign against her next fall and essentially say a warm-up drill in north carolina and we've got a long way to go for the next 15 months. it's going to get really ugly. >> rina, don said stay woke. one of the things you do when you wake up is you get up and then you go and do something. when, and i also note as kamala harris was the nominee, that's
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another conversation. but when will some republican leadership get up, stand up, and show that they're woke to a reality where they don't have to agree on policies, and certainly, there are differences in policies from health care to climate change to criminal justice. but this basic racism, voted now by the house of representatives, when will republican leadership stand up and be the party, not only of lincoln and ronald reagan? >> that's so far gone. it troubles me to think about what we're operating in, a series of closed doors. no matter who i speak to on capitol hill, the good republicans i speak about, the younger elected officials who are republicans, i inevitably hear from them is that they did what's politically expedient to vote against this resolution that was on the floor last week, condemning donald trump. because they wanted to stick with the party line. remain in the good graces of the party elders like mcconnell who
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embrace trump, so yes, there's a sentiment out there, that you have to stay with the pack if you want to remain in leadership or get voted out. >> she said that they voted what was expedient by not voting. >> correct. >> the reality is that when it came time to put your name on the record of whether or not you stand with these racist comments, four members of the house of representatives on the republican side decided to reject this pure unadulterated racism and that's the problem. if you are a republican, you have to have a conversation with yourself right now about what are you exactly aligning yourself with? and that's the conversation rina has to have as well as all of our good republican friends, you and i have them. you and i are men of the cloth and church and decided to build our hopes on things eternal, as they say. the republican party has to decide whether or not trump does another term, got four more years left max. what do they look like after this?
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>> that's what i'm about. yeah. >> he's appointing federal judges, most of whom will be on the bench for life. he's changing government with this kind of attitude. do you know how frightening it is to have a man that would openly embrace racism, appoint federal judges? we'll have to leave it for now. don callaway and rina shah. thank you, more on trump versus these congresswomen later in the show. but coming up, five years after eric garner's death by choke hold, the criminal justice system refuses to provide actual justice. i'll explain when we come back. l justice. i'll explain when we come back this is the couple who wanted to get away who used expedia to book the vacation rental which led to the discovery that sometimes a little down time can lift you right up. expedia. everything you need to go. about the colonial penn program. here to tell you if you're age 50 to 85
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as you can all tell, i'm very angry. i'm very angry. i stand here in the spirit of my sister who fought for justice to her dying day for my father, standing outside protesting. she called the ccrb to do this investigation. they didn't do their job. call the department of justice. they didn't do their job. so no. i'm going to stand outside and scream it. he needs to be fired. he needs to be fired. there is no waiting. there is no nothing. the statute of limitations is tomorrow. 7-17-14 he died. we're 7-16-19. five years later, still no justice. >> earlier this week, joined the
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family of eric garner and his late daughter to condemn the other miscarriage of justice this was the exoneration of new york city police officer daniel pantaleo who escaped federal charges for using an illegal choke hold in the garner's death. that happened five years ago this week. the final decision by trump's attorney general william barr went against the recommendation of justice department civil rights lawyers, myself, and others in the struggle. and of course, the garner family, whose tax dollars will continue to support the nypd and in doing so, the officer who killed the brother, their father, and their son. joining me now is mother of eric garner and grandma to erica garner. it was painful, as you sat through the police department hearings and had to watch the
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tape over and over again, videotape done by young man mr. orter and tape the choking of your son and audibly hearing him say 10 times i can't breathe and sitting next to you, we had to take you out several times. as a mother, that is fighting for justice in the courts, the local prosecutor wouldn't prosecute, now the federal government on the eve of the fifth anniversary, william barr says no, don't go forward. all that's left for you to get him fired and waiting on the police commissioner's decision. on the human side as a mother that watched this on tape, because we've gone to cases where the police misconduct, there was no tape and got some guilty verdicts and we were willing to go whatever way the evidence goes but as a mother watching that, tell our viewers how you felt and how you feel. >> well, it was very disturbing
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to have to watch this video over and over again, which i tell everyone, i have never watched the video in its entirety, rev because it's too painful. but as i sat in that courtroom and listened to the pba lawyer trying to prove that it wasn't a choke hold, that pantaleo put my son in, i had outrage. and he was so adamant about, oh, his arm was up under his, his hand under his arm. he's not clasping his neck. everything we see. he has his hand around his neck. clenching his hands and all the police officers, the pba lawyer. >> police union around the country. >> yes, and they're zsitting there, like, it's business as usual and i'm sitting here watching and watching as they're rekilling my son over and over
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again, stopping the video, and when they did the autopsy report, i just couldn't stay in the room. i couldn't watch that. >> and the coroner came and said what we saw is what we saw. this is the attorneys that represent the policemen trying to act as though this was not a choke hold. >> exactly. >> when you and the family have led with the federal government over five years, you were feeling that you would get some relief from the federal government and then all of that crashed this week. >> yes. >> explain to our viewers. >> this is so true. because this is why i wanted to get the local charges because i just didn't believe in this administration to exonerate my son, to say that, you know, what we saw is what we saw. so i said, well, maybe if the new york, the ccrd would go forward, we could get some
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justice this way before the justice department moved forward. but no. or did not move forward. but no. when they came out, it was the eve, the eve of my son's death that they came and wanted to meet with the family. now, being that it's the eve, it seemed like they would come and bring us good news. no, they told us to meet. we all sitting there waiting for them to come in, to tell us whatever it was that they had to tell us. then we see it coming on social media, the whole world knew what happened before we did. we're still waiting for the decision. yes. >> one of the things you immediately said and other members of the family is that this is not over. people of all races have come out expressing their outrage and you're going to continue to fight in the congress, in the courts, and keep for this commission to at least fire this officer. >> absolutely.
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that is exactly what we're going to do. i don't care what the decision was. we're still out there. i've been in this fight for five years. if it takes five more, i am still in it. because we know this administration wasn't probably going to give us a decisifavora decision. not surprised but i am disappointed. >> in the decision, you said something to me that was very much important, is that even if they had gone and prosecuted, we didn't know where the case was going but we felt that the worth of his life was to go in court and let a jury decide, at least to process. they wouldn't give the process here. >> there was no indictment. when you indict, that's not, you know, it's accusing you, but that's not a conviction. >> right. well, we will keep following this story, thank you, gwen carr
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and for being a mother, despite sharing the pain with the nation. >> got to keep fighting, keep it out there and i am outraged. all of these officers need to be fired who was at the scene that day because there was so much misjustice that day. president trump is facing mountains of backlash after he egregiously told four american congresswomen of color to go back to their, quote, crime-infested native lands. we'll talk to the head of the congressional black caucus about potential plans to rectify the situation. plus my weekly memo to president trump, a memo i want the entire republican party to hear. so stick with us. back after this. so stick with us back after this. -keep it down there. i have a system.
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and so this memo is for you, gop. this week, i watched you make every excuse for why president trump's racist comments about congresswomen of color were not, in fact, racist. no, instead, your leaders danced around the language and referred to a time worn republican tactic claiming that in criticizing the president, calling his racist comments exactly that, that somehow democrats were committing the equally odious sin of incivility. in senator mitch mcconnell's word, everybody ought to tone down their rhetoric, but everybody didn't get that message. chiefest among them, mcconnell's boss and i do mean boss who tripled down wednesday night in north carolina, again, reiterating false claims about somalia american congresswoman ilhan omar and basking in the
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chants of send her back, although claimed the next day, he tried to squash the hate speech by reopening his mouth 13 whole seconds later. less than half a handful of republicans have denounced the chants. casting them as some kind of natural phenomena born in a vacuum and taking issue not with the president, but the chants themselves. of course, for the president's fl flunkies, it's not about loathing but loyalty. >> i think the president is in a tug of war with his opponents. the question is, do i think the president's a racist? no, and let me tell you why. if you're a somalia refugee with a maga hat and big trump fan, probably be having dinner at the white house. so he lashes out at people who are critical of him and his view that are hurting the country and that's what this is all about. >> see there?
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all congresswoman has to do is trade her hijab and cultural identity for a maga hat and she's in. of course, senator graham, connell and other gop leaders should understand is that by making president trump the measuring stick by which legitimate americans are judged, you're telling black and brown and yellow and red americans to embrace a very narrow view of america, based on, well, whiteness, and while that message obviously appeals to the heart of the party, the president's base, you can't deny that heart is shrinking. figuratively and literally. so as the browning of america continues, border walls and census questions be damned. all i can say to the gop is, good luck. we'll be right back. is, good lk.uc we'll be right back. let's be ho, you only talk about your insurance when you complain about it. (garbled)....it's so painful. good point! that's why esurance is making the whole experience surprisingly painless.
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this week, we saw democrats in the house band together successfully voting to condemn the president trump's tweet about four freshmen congresswomen of color. tweets widely considered to be racist and as i said before, the primary reason with these women is simply the color of their skin. could it be the president equates being american with being white? joining me now is a woman who has denounced the president's
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recent behavior. democratic representative karen bass from california. she is also the chair of the congressional black caucus. madam chair lady, let me ask you first. how do you and the congressional black caucus intend to protect because this is very dangerous and politically and otherwise these four women? two of whom are members of the congressional black caucus. >> two of whom are freshmen members and we're deeply concerned about the security for all four women. so one of the things that we have done and we're going to actually step it up, is calling for these women to have more protection. they need to have individual security. it is a shame that our president actually puts four members of congress's life in danger. ilhan omar, three people who have been arrested for threatening to kill her. >> arrested? >> arrested.
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>> wow. now, how do you hear from your republican colleagues where only four of them voted to denounce the remarks? how do the rest of them even explain how they could shrink in this very critical moment to go on the record and say this was racist? >> and say nothing. let me just tell you that over these last couple of years, my republican colleagues, when they're talking to us privately will admit their concern, their shame, their embarrassment over what the president says but i have to tell you that this week, it's been dead silence. absolutely no response from them. and i think some of them at this point don't know what to say. they're fearful of this guy, but you would think at some point, you would have to say my integrity means something to me. >> absolutely. let me ask you before. i wanted to talk to you about the census, i know you'll be announcing this week, the initiative that the caucus
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you're leading, but i want to ask you about mr. mueller coming to testify this week. what are you expecting and how do you think the committee will handle it? >> well, first of all, i think that we on the democratic side will be very organized. on the republican sierkde, i ex. i think our focus on judiciary is looking at volume ii of the report which is obstruction of justice. i know a lot of people are intimidated, 488 pages, too much to read but let me tell your listeners, if you just read the executive summary on volume i and ii, only 20 pages, it's really a devastating report for the president. there are 10 examples of how the president broke the law and so we expect that mueller is going to stay true to the report, which means he's not going to give us additional information but just hearing him talk about what is in the report, i think,
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will be more than sufficient. >> the report itself. >> the mueller report. >> where the president broke the law. >> the mueller report lays out 10, at least 10 examples of how the president broke the law. but mueller's rationale is, you can't indict a sitting president, so i'm not going to say he broke the law. i'm just going to give you all of the information in the examples of how he did. for example, telling mccann, his lawyer, to get mueller fired. i mean, you know, there are just, telling luankowski to fire sessions, who wasn't even on the staff. there's all of these incidences where he was trying to get the special counsel fired, but he wanted people to lie for him. he wanted other people to do it. the only thing that actually saved the president a little bit is that all of those people that he tried to get to break the law for him refused to. >> wow. >> and if he was any other person, he would have 10
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indictments for the 10 examples of obstructing justice. >> we'll watch you and your committee members. let me ask you before i get to census. you and senator booker have initiated a criminal justice reform move. explain. it's criminal justice, a lot of my life's work. >> mine too. we share that in common. so what senator booker and i introduced is called a second look. it's an opportunity for people who have served longer than ten years to have their sentences reevaluated. but let me just share something with you, rev. because i'm also the acting chair of the subcommittee on crime. we are looking at criminal justice but i believe that in the criminal justice reform movement, women and children have really not received the attention that they deserve. so this week in the committee, we had a whole hearing looking at women in the criminal justice system. a matter of fact, the woman who created "orange is the new black" was one of the witnesses but women have very specific
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needs. number one, why women get arrested is different. what happens to them while they are incarcerated is different and what happens to them after ward is different. majority are primary caretakers. their children are sent to foster care, not able to visit them and the war on drugs, some of the laws that were used to snare a man who was a drug trafficker actually ensnared women. so the conspiracy laws. a lot of women are in prison because of their relationships with men. we even had a hearing in los angeles with the congressional black caucus where we looked at reforms that california has passed, a ballot initiative that california passed and we look at how they're working and what more is needed. another big focus of mine this year is going to be developing programs to help people return and be reintegrated back into their community. >> census on tuesday, you have a
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big announcement. tell us. >> it will launch, congressional black caucus, census 2020. all of us have been rightfully focused on the citizen question in terms of the census, but to me, an even bigger question is how the census is going to be administered this time. it's going to be administered online. so can you imagine households in our communities receiving a postcard, telling them to go online and fill out your census form? who's going to do that? we know the census is next spring, but we want to begin the work now, so on tuesday, the congressional black caucus is convening, african-american leaders from around the country, and then we will be launching this new task force. we'll get to work now. >> and people don't understand that because that will lead to an undercount if you don't go to work now. >> and undercount, denial of resources. one of the criminal justice issueles s we need to work on,
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where you're counted when incarcerated. a rule area, then it actually penalizes our communities where the people come back to. >> all right. congresswoman from california, karen bass. when i visit you, the cheerleader, they say. thank you for being with us. >> thanks for having me on. >> this week, 50 years since mankind set foot on the moon. up next, we'll talk with one of the first black astronauts about how that feat defined the future of space travel and how demographic make-up of the agency has changed since that momentous day in 1969. you're watching "politics nation." you're watching "politics nation." i'm alex trebek here to tell you
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will take center stage. joining me now charles, a former astronaut and the first black nasa administrator appointed by president barack obama. thank you for being with us, mr. bolden. >> it's great to be with you, reverend al. >> you were an astronaut. i believe you started in 1980. but you've been studying and a part of the whole space phenomenon and intrigue i would imagine all your life.
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what is the difference between the diversity in nasa today as opposed to how it was 50 years ago in 1969? >> it's dramatically different today, reverend al. if you look at where we were in 1969, the numbers were nowhere close to what they were now. in fact, only recently through a book called "hidden figures and the movie of the same name" did we realize that there were blacks in the background. but there were quite a few young black women and some black engineers, but they were very few in number. today we have blacks still short of where we would like to be, but in senior leadership positions in the agency as well as throughout all of the mission directors, not just human space flight but also in the human astronaut office but significantly more than zero is pretty good improvement. >> yeah.
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well, for starting at zero going up is all you can do. >> that's right. >> you were appointed by president obama. >> that's correct. >> did you face any resistance when you came into don't think. my opposition was based on the fact that the ideas that president obama had didn't exactly comport with the ideas of some of the people who were accustomed to the space program of old they were very happy with us just continuing to fly shuttle and remaining in low-oath orbit and that is not what president obama had in mind. he wanted us to explore and go onto mars and that meant making some dramatic changes that people were not exactly in favor of making. the other problems that i confronted again were not because of race but because i
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was executing a program that the president said that he wanted us to expand the number of partners that we had among nations that traditionally were not in the space program, what he called nontraditional partners. so we did a lot of that. >> as you look at the president, the present president saying we're going to the moon in five years and then going on to mars, you would hope that diversit have you seen any evidence that this president will be committed to diversity as the president that appointed you, barack obama was? >>ba the good thing, the answero that is, no, i have not seen any evidence, and i don't expect i will, but, the good thing is t president is so far removed from nasa that the organization itself, it's up to the nasa administrator to determine whether or not the agency will ber a diverse agency. when i was a nasa administrator, mainly because i had the support of the president, we took on a lot of initiatives to try to
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increase the number of women and minorities that we had in leadership positions. we set goals to increase significantly as best we could. and so it's really on the ball is in the administrator's court in terms of increasing and maintaining diversity in the astronaut ranks and among the senior -- the employees of the agency itself. >> now, the administrator can also initiate recruitment drives and recruitment can determine where you're going to get your pool of people to operate as astronauts and in other roles in nasa. is that correct? >> absolutely. and you point out something. you know, because this is the celebration of the anniversary of the 50th anniversary of the lunar landing, we tend to think only about human space flight. but since we're talking about diversity, areas where nasa must focus and the administrator will have to focus are areas of employment, areas of contracting. we have a program now in nasa
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that's called a mental protege program where every big contractor is required by our mental protege program to look for small businesses we hope that will besm women-owned and minority-owned businesses, that they can takeri and make a partf their contract so that we grow the number of minorities who are in the food chain, if you will, in the money chain of nasa such that when the $21 billion in the nasa budget is distributed, 85% of it into the workforce and american business that a fair percentage of that goes to minorityf businesses. >> and as we celebrate and commemorate thera 50th an reversevy today,th we need to ao put that on the table because if we are headed back to the moon and one day to mars, we need to also realize that we all need to operate equally here on earth. >> that's absolutely correct. >> inso a very competent and effective way.
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>> that is absolutely correct. and it's really important, reverendll al, that we emphasiz towe young black kids and young hispanic kids that they have a role to play and that there is a place for them. and we need to help our students understand that it's not an either/or in terms of making this world a better place or exploring, going farther than justin low-earth orbit. they go together. the more we do in terms of research and development on the international space station and farther out in thern future, th better off society is going to be because every day we're discovering solutions for medical problems, for problems of just human existence, and also looking at things that are going to make thisth planet a little bit better with climate, changing climate being a challenge, space exploration. it really helps us in all those areas. >> former nasa administrator, charles bolden on the 50th anniversary of the lunar landing. thank you very much for being withan us.
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how do we discourage criminal behavior in cities and communities around the country? yes, we do it with education, yes, we do it with community policing. but we also do it by having people understand if they break the law they will be held
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accountable. that is also how we stop bad cops from breaking the law. they must know they will be held accountable. this week alone, we saw in the city of chicago, illinois, where policemen were terminated, four chicago policemen fired over statements they made after another officer fatally shot laquon mcdonald. also we saw in the city of philadelphia, there were 13 policemen suspended that were suspended on their way to termination for offensive and bigoted facebook posts. and they are to be fired. and we saw the federal government refuse to do anything but the city of new york police commissioner is now sitting there within his hands the
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ability to decide whether he will be accountable or not. just like when criminals cross the line, it's not an indictment on their whole neighborhoods. bad people know not to do bad things and criminal things when they know they will pay for it. otherwise they feel they will getpass and that they're above the law. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern. up next, "deadline: white house" with my colleague nicolle wallace. hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york with the case now closed on whether or not donald trump is a racist, and any doubts about whether he plans to run on the themes of racial an mists and division erased, democrats today signaling their intention to focus the nation's attention on donald trump's criminal conduct. as democrats prepare for the arrival of special counsel robert mueller on capol

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