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shopped images of my violent rape. >> but all in starts right now. >> what does that mean when a child is sitting in their own feces can't take a shower? come on, man. >> good evening from new york i'm chris hayes. it's twice now in the last several months we have learned that there's been substantial evidence of donald trump's criminal conduct before prosecutors that would have almost certainly resulted in his criminal indictment but for one tiny detail. he is the president of the united states. usa today reports quote federal prosecutors's decision to end an investigation into hush money payments to women claiming affairs with donald trump relied in part at at least on longstanding department of justice policy that a sitting president can't be charged with a crime. we have that policy thanks to a man named robert dixon, the head of the department of justice office of legal counsel way back
in 1937 li 73 when they authored a memo saying the president can't be indicted. we concluded that by viert yew of his unique position under the constitution the president cannot be the object of criminal proceedings while he is in office. now, at a press conference this morning, deputy attorney general jeff rossen declined to say whether that 1973 office of legal counsel memo was a factor in the doj decision. >> the government understanding of memo claimed that cohen committed two campaign finance felonies, quote, in coordination with and at the direction of individual one identified as the president. with the case now being -- orb with the investigation now being closed does that mean that individual one, the president was cleared of any wrong doing. >> really the only thing i can say about that is that it was handled by experienced prosecutors who looked at the law and facts and made in re conclusions on the merits.
>> can you say, deputy attorney general -- can you say whether you or the department main justice played a role in that final conclusion? and secondly, can you say whether the olc memo that the president cannot be indicted played a role in this as well. >> i don't have anything to add to what i just said. >> that's kind of interesting, isn't it. now the chair of the house oversight committee elijah cummings is demanding answers writing in a letter to the district attorney office for the southern district of new york the committee is seeking to determine whether the internal department of justice policy against dieting a sitting president, the sameless policy preventing robert mueller from keeping a indictment against president trump in the russian interference election investigation played any role in your decision not to diet president trump for the hush money crimes? now you may rather what robert mueller had to say not even two months ago about his decision not to bring obstruction charges
against president trump. >> and as set forth in the report after that investigation, if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime we would have said so. under longstanding department policy a president -- a president cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office. that is unconstitutional. even if the charge is kept under seal and hidden from public view, that too is prohibited. the special counsel's office is part of the department of justice. and by regulation it was bound by that department policy. charging the president with a crime was therefore not an option we could consider. >> so far over 1,000 former federal prosecutors is a said they would diet president trump in based on the evidence in the mueller report process. and so far the hush money case seems clear. check it out according to the
michael cohen sentencing memo, the government's writing and alkugs before the judge then candidate druch direct add criminal conspiracy that results in the person he paid to do the crimes pleading to a felony and doing jail time. donald trump paid michael cohen to do a criminal. michael cohen is now in jail for said crime. donald trump is the president in the white house. so that's the country we now live in apparently thanks to a legal memo written in 1973 that basically says if you are the president they let you do it. joining me for more on the possible legal questions surrounding the president carolyn lamb form u.s. forefor the southern district of california. and the executive producer of the talking feds podcast. let's start with the counterfactual here, carol. if donald trump is just donald trump, the ceo of trump organize or let's say he lost the election after the same set of facts and now a private citizen,
it really -- i'm not a lawyer but it looks like he very clearly is indictable. >> that's right i think you would have seen an indictment. there are enough witnesses here who probably would testify against him certainly michael cohen his close lawyer in the situation. and i think that, you know, the southern district of new york sort of found itself in a check mate situation. they had immunized david pecker at ami. they had michael cohen has already testified in front of congress. they've already convicted him. and the end of the story was written a long time ago. they cannot indict the president. he at the end of the date they have given immunity to some people. other people have pled. that -- that's where it is. and i think if the president were a private citizen i think they would probably be willing to roll the dies on this one. >> so we've got two situations it looks like, harry, where
there is indictable crimes or evidence of crimes that would be sufficient to indict a private citizen. what carol described in this case which seemed extremely clear cut. you have the checks. you know it all. then there is the obstruction that's enumerated in the mueller report, the ten insteness tans was which 1,000 federal prosecutors had said would be sufficient for a charge. what are we telling the american people about the fact that there is -- it's like a video game where he got a special shield called the presidency and now he can walk around doing crimes and not having to do anything about it. >> right. and i'll ad to the video game that he's got a special shield so we don't even see what's going on. it's sort of like when it's the president he has the special rules. but otherwise he's got the normal rules of a criminal defendant that you don't say things. first, it's hardly a roll of the
dice. i grow with carol but you km up sevens on the obstruction. that's the main reason for reading the mueller report carefully. it details at least four instances where the proof of culpable intent is chlor. here as you say, chris, in many ways it's simpler. cohen has already pleaded guilty to the crimes. anyone expiring with him would absolutely be guilty. maybe they never considering charge. but individual one was already up to the line. and what we have learned in the last couple days makes it worse for him, for hope hicks and others. and the real rub here is we're not sure exactly why it was closed down, the normal presumption of regularity is hard to adhere to under current regime in doj. >> we have the 1973 memo fairly long and in indenting. >> and '99 memo. >> and 2000 and come to the same conclusion. i guess i want to get beth your feedback on it.
because i've read them and they're actually persuasive i think. it's a thorny issue process opinion and the constitution does have a specific enumerated way to deal with high crimes and misdemeanors by the president of the united states, which is impeachment. and it's unclear what the constitution feels about diet indicting the president. though it doesn't bar it in the text. what do you think? ? the correct operating legal procedure, carol. >> you know, actually, it is. and you know, the unsealed fbi search warrant affidavit was a little bit of a gift to us that the judge said, no you're going to release that and the american public deserves to see what the details were here with respect to those phone calls that were made by michael cohen and the president's involvement and such. that was a little bit of gift. but we are back now in criminal prosecution -- federal prosecutionland where very little is said short of of an indictment. and there are no more indictments coming.
that seems to be the case. we have learned what we are going to learn. it doesn't surprise me at all that the deputy attorney general is saying no comment on anything else. you don't get to see the processes. you don't even get to see something like the mueller report in ordinary criminal prosecution. so, you know, this is sort of it. but what we did see in the fbi affidavit was a lot more detail. and this goes back now to the political realm. i think that's clear that this is where it resides. >> harry, what do you think about the constitutional finding of ---en a the argument of both the memos. >> first, bit, this is no ordinary criminal prosecution. and that's why congress will stay on the trail. it actually, chris, is fairly weak, i think. it's a little hard to bottom line on but olc memos are rich in law and precedent. neither of these is. they come down to a kind of mucky policy argument that it would be distracting to the president, as surely it would. of course that's the argument rejected in clinton v. jones.
when they come to the extra step that mueller referred to about putting it under seal, with really no more reasoning they just lump it in there too. as olc memos go i think it's pretty mucky and policy driven. i think the weight of scholarly opinion is that it per se is not that -- the bottom line might be right, might not. but the memo itself is pretty thread bare. >> carol lamb and hair harley. >> joining me max even waters of california. chair of the house financials service committee. your view congresswoman within this matter, which is to say evidence the president has committed crimes or at least sufficient evidence for an indictment were he not the president, but he is the preponderate so no indictment. and now we just sort of wait, i guess. >> well, as i have said for a long time, inju think that this
president is eligible for, you know, impeachment. now, after you've said everything you understand that the constitution puts the ultimate power in the hands of the members of congress. it doesn't matter whether there is an opinion that talks about the president is not indictable. it doesn't matter that the president has committed crimes we cannot tie down. if we feel that this president has committed certain crimes, if we feel that he is not a decent president, a dangerous president, not acting in the best interests of the congress of the united states, on and on and on we can make the decision to override any opinion about whether or not indictable. that's what impeachment is all about. >> you just said -- enumerated recent three things deeson,
dangerous, not acting in the best interests of the krep. is that a rough guideline for how you think about that high crimes and misdemeanors claus? or does it have to be something with a more criminal bite to it in the way you think about it? >> no, that's how i think about it. i think it's a combination of things that rise to the level of, we cannot afford to have this person representing us. i think when you take a look at the mueller report, if you take a look at the women whose claimed that he has raped, that he has basically taken advantage of them. if you take a look at the way he has lied. take a look at all of these things i think it rises to the level ofway we would consider high crimes and misdemeanors. it's up to the congress of the united states of america to determine whether or not that president should be stay in office. >> you have from your perch as committee chair, financial
services committee, i think issued document requests if not formal subpoenas to deutsche bank, a bank with which the president did business. i think last time i had you here you wanted deutsche bank was cooperative. i wanted to check on where the document requests and production were. >> as you no he we had a good court decision that said they had to comply with the subpoena. and then it was a matter of working out the time with the court for the information to be put together, and the court to basically get around to the arguments on the merits. we are just getting there in august, i think around the latter part of august. we will be hearing, you know, what each side is going to say and basically what amounts to a court hearing, a court trial. we do not determine, you know, basically the calendar of the court. >> right. >> and the courts are slow. and this is vacation time for judges. all of that. yeah. this is true. and so what we are doing is we are doing everything that we can
in the investigations. so far we're working well with the courts. they're making good decisions, enforcing the subpoenas, but now, you know, getting through the court and getting past all of that, and all of the motions that can be put fourth of july, et cetera, it takes a lot of time. >> i want to switch gears on the last question here just to talk about what's happened the last last several days with the attacks on colleagues, the chance, the tweets that the president disavowed yesterday about but rewray avowed today when given an opportunity to talk about it he reembraced supporters chanting that. what's the effect of that on congress, on your caucus, fellow members, ability to do your jobs and be confident in your own safety and security? >> well, you know, some people were shocked that the president could be so outwardly racist.
other people were surprised. and of course, you know, there is a lot of embarrassment, as our colleagues and as our colleagues and allies look at us from across the waters, you know, foreign allies. so, you know, the fact of the matter is we are trying to do everything that we can do to say that he really does not represent most of the people of in country in what he is doing. and the way that he is attacking these women. and the racism that he is putting forward. however, i, you and others know that he's gotten worse from the time that we first started to realize that he was identifying himself as an unworthy person, notworthy of the presidency, he has consistently gotten worse, because guessway, he basically came to the conclusion that we were not going to impeachment. he keeps going. and he will fet worse.
and he is using these young women as the face of the democratic party, scaring folks, having folks believe that here you have these foreigners -- he doesn't even know that they are citizens of the united states of america. foreigners who are somehow using in re power to take over the congress. this is who the democratic party is. they are not patriotic. they are -- you know, responsible for in anti-semitism going on with one of them, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. that's his campaign. >> it is. >> and that's what he is using. he is divisive and dangerous. so all i can say it is -- i hate to keep say going. i told you so. i started a long time ago. he clearly identified himself -- he should have been impeached. he has not been impeached impeached. he is out of hand, going to keep going. this is his campaign that you see unfolding right now. >> congresswoman max even waters thank you for making some time on this friday night. >> you're welcome.
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earnings. in defending the relentless racist take the on ilhan hoe omar. republicans like to deny bigotry by accusing omar of making anti-semitic compensates. but michelle goldberg says this is a ridiculous char aid. on tuesday an evangelical outfit ached the anti-defamation league of siding with anti-semites after the adl called out trump's racism. republicans are only a short step away from shamelessness trying to deflect from the president's racism accusing his foes of anti-submit zbliems joining me now is michelle goldberg. i'm glad you wrote the column it's been driving me crazy. >> and driving many jewish people i know crazy to see
jewish people dragged in as if donald trump is our protest protecters in launching the racist attacks not just on the four women but on the foundations of the united states as a multiethnic democracy where you don't have to be a white christian to be a full citizen, right. because that's so profoundly threatening. it's profoundly threatening to people of color. profoundly threatening to immigrants. but profoundly threatening to jews. the reason jews flourished in the company as they have in few place notice world at any point in history is because of -- this country is you know, kind of an idea. >> a creedal nation, a civic nationalism this is the idea it's not like are you french in your blood. >> you can become an american in a way that it's hard tor become -- something dsh easier to become of an american than a frenchmen. >> you see the grow tevfik inversion where donald trump small townly attack the
foundation that made jewish life in america possible while claiming he does it on the jew's behalf. >> you mention this. and i think it's important to show this again. in is -- this is donald trump back in april. a few days after the israeli election talking to the jewish republican coalition. jewish americans -- americans listen to how he addresses which you raise in the column. take a listen. >> i stood with prime minister netanyahu -- benjamin netanyahu -- how is the race going by the way? how is it? who is going to win the race? tell me. i don't know. well it's going to be close. i think it's going to be close. two good people. two good people. but i stood with your prime minister at the white house to recognize israeli sovereignty over the golan heights. >> your prime minister. >> right. >> your prime minister. >> it's not the only time he has done that. he said your country speaking to
american jews pch that's the exact same conception of who belongs here. >> exactly. >> it might be he is sort of willing to accept jews and sufferens for now but it's a provisionsle of exception of citizenship like with ilhan omar that we really belong to another country np. >> i get emails saying go back to israel which was a country i visited in my 20s. donald trump clearly does not see americans as full and complete citizens does not see jews as full and complete citizens. >> this is him become in 2015 talking to the jewish republican coalition. i want people to listen to this and think about if ilhan omar got up before a group of jewish donors in the democratic party and said this to them. think about this as you watch them take a listen. >> some of this renegotiate beals. i would say 99 -- is there anybody doesn't renegotiate deals. in room negotiate deals. this room.
perhaps more than any room i've spoken to. you're not supporting me even though you know i'm the best thing that could happen to israel. i'll be that. i know why you're not supporting me. you're not going to support me because i don't want your money. he raised $125 million which means he has controlled totally totally controlled by the people that gave him the money. that's why you don't want to give me money. but that's okay. you want to control your politician that's fine. good. >> he is telling a group of jewish donors you want to control your own money. you're not going to support me because he i don't want your money. if ilhan said those words. >> exactly. >> it would be the top droves controversy in america. >> or ilhan omar sent out tweet with asset jewish store and said it was a sheriff star. the cattle og of anti-semitic reremarks from trump is longer than omars. but to me the narrative is not just what aboutism it's even
more citizen sister in the way they keep using jews -- first of all they lie about the accusation they make against the four congresswoman and then using the lies to justify their own racism. >> and that racism is undermining the bedrock of our shared foundational civic life. michelle goldberg thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> coming up elizabeth warren takes on the rating onlobbyist that donald trump nominated to run the defense department. and responding to zandio ocasio for a secret facebook group. that's next. r a secret facebook. that's next. at subaru, we're taking on distracted driving [ping] with sensors that alert you when your eyes are off the road. the all-new subaru forester. the safest forester ever.
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with it the intentional male strom that donald trump creates when he does an odious thing like tweeteding racist attack on members of congress or inciting a crowd at his rally to make racist chants. but the democrats in congress have been working to conduct oversight of the administration and doing the business you do as congress. and here are highlights you might have missed this week. massachusetts senator and presidential candidate grilled mark he is per as the secretary's pick to be the secretary of defense over his past as the top lobbyist for the third largest defense contractor raytheon. >> if you are confirmed will you do the same and commit to extending your recusal from any and all matters involving raytheon for your the duration of your tenure as secretary of defense? >> you know, senator we had this discussion in your office. >> we did. >> a couple years ago. on the advice of my ethics folks at the pentagon, the career
professionals, no, the recommends is not to. the belief is that the screening process i have in place, all the rules and regulations and law that i'm required. >> let's cut to it you're not doing what secretary acting secretary shanahan agreed to do, agree not to be involved in decisions involving your former employer where you were head lobbyist the duration of your time as secretary of defense. >> senator i can't explain why he made that commitment. we obviously come. >> you were not willing to make the same commitment is that right. >> he was fulfilling a different role than i am. >> you were unwilling to make that same commitment is that right dr. he is per. >> he has a different professional bacteria. >> i take that as yes you are unwilling to make that commitment. you detailed an exception to the ethics oxes by writing that you can get a waiver to participate in matters that directly and predictably affect raytheon's financial interests if it's, quote, so important that it cannot be referred to another official.
end quote. this smacks of corruption, plain and simple. so here is my question. will you commit that during your time as defense secretary that you will not seek any waiver that will allow you to participate in matters that affect raytheon's financial interests? >> well, senator let me correct the record with regard to what you said. at any time in the past 20 some months to can you the last three weeks did i request or seek or receive or be granted any waiver? >> i appreciate dr. he is per you have not in the past asked for one but you have you're the one. >> if i could answer the question. >> who has detailed an exception to ethics obligation by saying you can seek a waiver in the future. i'm asking if you're confirmed will you agree not to seek such a waiver? i think it's a fair question. it's a yes or no. will you agree not to ask for a waiver during the time you serve as secretary of defense? >> no, senator i won't because i'm going to abide by the rules and regulations and i'm going to. >> thank you. >> will you commit not to work
for or get paid by any defense contractor for at least four years after your government service? >> no, senator i will not. >> all right. so let me get this straight. you're still due to get at least a million dollar payout from when you lobbied for raytheon. you won't commit to recuse yourself from raytheon's decision. you insist on being free to seek a waiver that would let you make decisionsistic aing raytheon's bottom line. and your remaining financial interests. and you won't rule out taking a trip right back through the revolving door on your way out of government service or even just delaying the trip for four years after you leave government. secretary he is per, the american people deserve to know that you're making decisions in our country's best security interests not in your own financial interests. you can't make those commitments to this committee. that means you should not be confirmed as secretary of defense. >> i should tell you senator warren released a statement today saying she is opposing
mark he is per's nomination. yesterday members of the house oversight kme. including alexandria ocasio-cortes and the chair of the committee luge cummings questioned the acting homeland security chairman kevin! leanen. on everything from immigration policy to child separation policy >> are you aware of propuka report indicating about 10,000 current and former cbp officers in the inlt violently racist group. >> i am aware of the arm. >> did you see the posts in the report? >> i did. >> did you see the posts mocking mierg deaths. >> yes. >> did you see the threats to myself and congresswoman escobar. >> i did and demanded a investigation. >> did you see officers
circulating images of my violent rape. >> i did. >> are those officers on the job today and responsible for the safety of migrant women and children? >> so there is an aggressive investigation on this issue proceeding. you've heard the chief of the border patrol, the senior female official in law enforcement and across the entire country say that these posts do not meet the standards of conduct and will be followed up aggressively we've put individuals on administrative duties. i don't know which koefrpted to which posts we issued decease are december cease and desist orders to others and more. >> do you think the policy of child contribution could have contributed to a dehumanizing culture in cbp that contributes and spills to other areas of conduct. >> we do not have a dehumanizing culture at cbp this is a agency that rescues 4,000 people a year. committed to the safety afternoon and well being of everyone we interact with. >> mr. second, you don't think
that having 10,000 officers in a violent racist group, sharing rape means with members of congress points to any concern of a dehumanized culture? >> congresswoman, those posts are unacceptable, being investigated. but i don't think it's fair to apply them to the entire organization. >> you feel like you are doing a great job isn't that what you're saying. >> we're doing our level best. >> what do that mean. >> what does at a that mean when a shield sthield is sitting in their own feces can't take a shower. come on, man. what's that about? none of us would have our children in that position. they are human beings. and i'm trying to figure out -- and i get tired of folks saying, oh, oh they just beating up on the border patrol. oh they just beating up on
homeland security. no, what i'm saying i want to concentrate on these children. and i want to make sure that they are okay. i will say it i've said it before. and i will say it again. it's not the deed that you do to a child. it's the memory. it's the memory. and so -- and i told head of border patrol the other day. i said i want to know what's happening in the meantime. we are the united states of america. we are the greatest country in the world. we are the ones that can go anywhere in the world and save people, make sure they have diapers. make sure they have tooth brushes. make sure they're not laying around defecating in some silver paper. come on, we're better than that. .
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thing one tonight there are a couple of tried and true ee vasest maneuver a plikingen can take dealing with touch tough questions from the press. one is repeat the non-responsive answer over and over. for example back in 2012 former colorado congressman mike kaufman stuck to the script. after he was caught on tape spewing birther non-sense about president obama. >> after your comments about the president do you feel that voters are owed a better explanation than just i'm a misspoke. >> i stand by my statement that i misspoke and i apologize. >> okay. and who are you apologizing to it. >> you know, i stand by my statement i misspoke and apologize. >> i apologize. we talk to you all the time you're a forthcoming guy who is telling you not to talk and handle this. >> stand by my statement that i
wrote that you have. and i misspoke and apologize. >> is there anything i can constitute ask you you'll answer differently. >> stand by my statement i misspoke and apologize. >> it's the last one that takes it up to art that through up petition motion. two years ago this bram congressman didn't want to field questions on the sexual misconduct questions. he pulled the god old run away as fast as you can routine? >> so there is the running and repeating. but is any politician decks trues enough to use both explain complains. >> we give you 9/11 funding questions from rand paul in 60
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after he and utah senator mike lee temporarily blocked a bill this week that would reauthorize the 9/11 victims compensation fund. and senator paul is dealing with it in a couple of ways first turned to friendly faces at trump tv to explain it away. >> no matter how good the cause is if you want to spend new money find waste elsewhere and $2.4 trillion spending budgets everywhere. how about the 300,000 to see japanese quail to use if he is sexually active on kpoin. >> and senator paul then reacted like this. >> sir what is the objection to the 9/11 bill you had on the senate. >> are you voting in favor of the bill senator? senator paul do you agree with the assessment that gillibrand was making that you are standing in the which of first responders searching benefits? >> senator are you going to do
any further blacks or amendments or objections to this bill? senator paul, was there anything you can say to the first responders who came yesterday. >> it will be interesting to see what -- >> if you watch fox news with did he an interview on fox news tell your viewers opportunity no fox news we have great stuff on there. >> all due respect i'm not fox news. >> if you were a professional outline you can call and get a an interview like they did. >> i don't know who you are. >> i'm with new york one sir what is your objection to the bill. >> here is a suggestion if you would like to be a professional reporter. >> with all due respect what is your objection to the 9/11 first responder. >> if you'll call and get an interview it would be a great idea. >> i understand you have issues with the national debt. >> do you watch fox news. >> is that your objection. >> if you watch fox news we explained exactly the lies watch fox news. >> do you mind clearing that up what do you mean by the lies?
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ask your doctor if eliquis is what's next for you. we've got a new nominee for secretary of labor we're telling you all about in a bit. but before we do it occurred to us you can tell the story in a manner of speaking of the trump administration and what they are doing to the federal government and what they value and who they want running the place the story of the four people who became or nominated to become donald trump's secretary of labor. beginning with a guy infamous for using scantly clad women to
hawk cheap ham burst burg sfwleers i don't think there is anything wrong with a beautiful woman in a bikini or being in a hot tub, nothing more american. >> that is fast food ceo andy plisker. a huge critic of minimum wage increasing, obama era worker protection as and paid sick leave policies, the things department of labor is supposed to enforce. ultimately withdrawing his nomination after a tape surface of of his ex-wife high class battered women went on to make allegations of spousal abuse. >> remembermy ex-husband was a public figure everyone knew him and knew what he was doing. once i made that public he -- he vowed revenge he said i will see new the fwuter in will never be over. you will pay for this. >> i'll see new the gutter. andy pudste he denied the ails.
then the next guy up former u.s. attorney for the southern of district of florida. he came under fire for a sweetheart plea deal to wealthy sex deal and trump pal. jeffrey epstein. the knew guy is patrick pitsela. a disgraced lobbyist jack abraham worked together in the 90s to prevent congress from imposing protections in the labor. the products labeled made in the usa but produced in horrifying sweat shop conditions. amazingly the latest guy might be worse. a famous last nights and the history of fighting protections for workers jobs requiring them to perform the same tasks again and again. and that story is after this. n and again. and that story is after this of savings and service.
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former supreme court justice ant anyone scalia. he is a conservative lawyer, defending wal-mart against whistleblowers. and killing theering nominations rule. designed to protect works from representative stress. carpal tunnel or amazon worker has to load the same box in the warehouse every day over and over. scalia portrayed the rules as an effort to hire more worker and there is no way to prove whether the injury was caused by sports or again etic factors. and helped him make him a hero of the corporate rightright np pou donald trump nom president inmated him to protect worker. the organizing group of change and former democratic snorp barbara boxer of california.
cohost of the boxer podcast. senator boxer i got to think he is not getting many democratic votes. >> i can't imagine that he would get even one. you know, what trump does is he picks people who want to destroy the mission of the agency. he appoints them to. he has ton it over and over. if you read what the labor department is supposed to do, it's easy. department of labor is supposed to support workers, help workers. i don't know if he could have found anyone worse. i don't know who could have been worse. this guy is the champion of killing important regulations. and the one that stands out to me is he got involved with -- there was a rule to make sure that when stock brokers were helping retirees that they put the needs of the retirees before their own commissions. he helped to water that down to kill that. i mean that's a disaster. an absolute disaster. >> the fiduciary duty saying you
have to act in the best interests of client you can't swindle them or cut yourself in without telling them he went to downtown against it. >> there was a joke amongst the sec staff and commissioner that the dodd-frank that reeled in the. financial seks sector the joke was the dodd-frank was the eugene scalia full employment bill. he spent his career attacking workers and working people. and essentially being a hitman for corporations and corporate power. that's his career. and with this pick trump gets a twofer. he gets to appoint someone if there is successful. i do hope there is democratic opposition. but he will appoint one trying to ee visser eight the department of labor and killing regulations that protect workers. but also the other part of the twofer this is red meat to the
base. by the base i mean evangelicals who still rever his father. >> yes. >> and right corporations and employers who benefit fpgsly. >> the donor class, loves this. and you know it also occurred to me senator this is not, you know, donald trump is pseudo generous in many ways. but he was a possible department of labor secretary in any administration. this is what the republican party looks like, right. >> well, i think when you really look at all this what you see is the republican party that really is against most of the people in the country. and they try to do the shiny objects over here and over there. but when people realize if they work for a living and it's most people who work for a living, whether non-you know yen, whether they're you know yn onthey shall someone in the department of labor standing up for them. otherwise let them go work for the -- be the secretary of commerce for god sake and i
would even argue they should be good to working people too. >> yeah. >> i think there is going to be a wakeup call here. because the republican party is the real story here. we know what donald trump is. now we are learning what they are. >> i think that's a great point. when i was watching the first sets of debates it was strg to me how much democrats focus on the economy and how who is the administration fighting for. it strikes me in some ways krrnts intuitively one of the true attacks on donald trump is that he is just a normal republican in many ways. in many ways he is not let's be clear. the send her back crap and all that. but the guy at the department of labor wants to overturn things he is a normal republican. you can attack him as such. >> you can attack him as such. and actually a campaign to oppose his nomination would shine the light on what the republican party has been doing the last 40 years. donald trump is just a frankenstein monster they created. but this could shine a light on what is the role of government in terms of working in ordinary
people on this country. how is this party that's enabling the president advancing the interests of the very rich and of folks that don't care about people like you and me? so this is a perfect opportunity to actually go after the enablers of the administration and right, we -- everyone has been opposing trump for three years now. >> right. >> but there are millions of people and especially powerful people who are enabling him and opposing this nomination as a way to shine the right light on them too. >> senator -- >> yes i was going to say with health care such a big issue, i can't wait for people to see when he went to fight for wal-mart and said that wal-mart didn't have to really spend money on the health care of the people. that's going to hit home. those people are our neighbors. we see them every day. so i think it's an exciting opportunity but it's a terrible nomination. ands if i was in the senate i'd help to lead the charge against this guy. >> barbara boxer and darion
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