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powerful for effecting the kind of changes that you want to see changed. philadelphia voters accept the soda tax because they like the results of it. not everyone will accept that kind of a policy. that shows how it is possible. >> they went with it. so far it's working. noah, jason, you had to do a lot of work for me today. and i appreciate it. that wraps up this hour. i will see you at 1:00 p.m. with a special guest. host of the breakfast club to weigh in on all that's going on around the country. coming up right now, more news with my friend hallie jackson. welcome back, hallie. >> appreciate it, steph. a bunch of breaking news this hour, including a live look at the rose garden where the president is expected any moment to sign a bill that permanently pays for money to pay for 9/11 different responders. a first responder himself is joining me live. maybe, just maybe the president
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will talk there about the thing he is been talking about on twitter. the city of baltimore, and the reverend al sharpton. they lead into attacks against an african-american lawmaker. and slamming sharpton for standing up for cummings. and describing it as rodent-infested. the reverend will be here and so will one of the top former intelligence officials that a current official is on his way out. what is behind dan coats departure? will it be smooth sailing for the game replacing him? our team of powerhouse reporters and guests is up next. hans nichols is with us. hans, the government is preoccupied by this battle that he is waging against elijah cummings and reverend al shopper ton. >> reporter: he is expanding the playing field. when you look at the white house's justification, they are saying it's retaliation, not
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racism. it is clear the president wants to go after and have someone to really pick a fight with. we are in day three going after cummings. he went after al sharpton as well because he is going after the president. so this is retaliation lean from the president. we don't know, hallie, whether or not the president actually believes this is good politics. he talked about going after members of the squad and how he says he doesn't know if it will help him at the ballot box. what's clear is the president likes a fight. his own aides are having to explain this. look how mick mulvaney tried to offer some sort of justification for what the president has been tweeting about. >> it has absolutely zero to do with race. does the president speak hyper colicly? absolutely. you will again. he fights back when he feels attacked. >> reporter: you hit the president, and he will hit back. i suspect we will see a lot more of this.
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it is a fight the president apparently wants to have. >> that is for sure, hans nichols. the president is expected to hold an event any minute. hans, while i have you, talk through the chances that the president speaks today? again, the event he's at is not about this, not about baltimore, not about elijah cummings. i don't know that our colleagues in the press corps, are close enough to be able to shout questions to the president on this? >> reporter: right. the geography on this one matters. the president will be right there. the steps of the west wing for the oval office. it's hard top shout questions at that distance and get a presidential response. in the past we have seen when the president does events there, he stayed on topic. he gave tiger woods the medal of freedom. that was done there. it was very difficult to shout questions. it is possible the president will engage. but on this one, it seems as though the white house really wants to focus on the 9/11
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issue. again, just because aides want to focus on it, doesn't mean the president is going to concede to their demands. >> in hans there at the white house. thank you. reheema, you are at a different event that is just wrapping up with the reverend al sharpton and others fighting back against what the president has said. >> reporter: there are. in fact, it's interesting. because this was a meeting that was planned months ago. reverend al, head of the national action network, come together with a group of folks here in the community and joined by michael steele, former chair of the gop. back in january, they were thinking about -- they wanted to get-together to talk about economic empowerment and improving housing. reverend al said a few minutes ago it's ironic just on the eve of their meeting today, the president came out with this tweet. i think it's unfortunate. one of the things they are saying is they want people really to ignore it and to move on with what they are intending
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to do, what they want to do. and that is to build this community into something that they are proud of and can be even more proud of. one of the things said also by michael steele was he offered the president an invitation to come to baltimore, to walk the streets of baltimore with the people, the proud people who live here and see this community is as proud as any in the country. they said of course this community has its difficulties, its challenges. that is not unlike many communities across the country. they would like the president to come here and to stand with them and to watch and to see people and to see how they are trying to make their community even better than what it is. hallie? >> rehema ellis, thank you. the reverend al sharpton, we will that for you in a minute. new details about the horrific shooting at a food festival south of san francisco overnight. at least three people have been
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killed in gilroy, california and 15 hurt after somebody opened fire at the famous garlic festival. federal law enforcement officials confirmed his name. san tina will hell. . this is steven romarw phaeumero old. he had gone with his mother and grandmother, who survived the shooting. >> he had his whole life to live. he was only 6. people come out to have fun with their family, no the to get shot. >> a father in shock there. molly hunter is there in gilroy. what are we expecting.
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>> reporter: we heard from them last night. we learned a couple of things. one, they're looking for possibly an accomplice. someone else who may have been supporting the shooter, may have been helping him. two, we want the shooter entered through a perimeter fence. we heard in the press conference he used some sort of tool to get in. as you mentioned, this is a famous garlic festival. it was in his 40th year. family friendly. you went through a metal detector. he got through with some kind of tool. the other thing is gilroy police engaged the shooter within a minute. within a minute and a half he was down. in such a short period of time he shot and killed three people, including that 6-year-old boy. he shot 11 others, who were wounded in area hospitals. and a bunch of other people in the chaos directly after that shooting happened.
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eyewitnesses described really scary scenes. apparently the shooter was in a tactical vest and camouflage clothes. he was clearly ready for this. they described him shooting indiscriminately. we do know his name. we don't know his age. we also don't know a motive. hoping for more answers from police later this morning. >> i'm sure that this community desperately wants molly. what is your sense as you talk to people there in gilroy? >> reporter: shock. this was the festival that brought this area together. it's the garlic capital of the world. and this festival in particular was a cornerstone of the community. everyone talks about it. they go to it every year. families go to it. and so for this to happen and some place everyone thought was so safe. even more devastating for the community. >> molly hunter live in california. stay close to a camera. i know we will be looking for updates throughout the morning. i appreciate that. much more to get to on msnbc, the latest vacancy in the trump administration, a big one.
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director of national intelligence announcing this weekend he will be stepping down. already new backlash over who the president is pick to go replace him. we are with john brennan to talk about all of it. keep an eye on the rose garden where permanent funding for 9/11's responders is expecting to get a signature. s s expecting to get a signature you make time... when you can. but sometimes life gets in the way, and that stubborn fat just won't go away. coolsculpting takes you further. a non-surgical treatment that targets, freezes, and eliminates treated fat cells, for good. discuss coolsculpting with your doctor. some common side-effects include temporary numbness, discomfort, and swelling. don't imagine results, see them. coolsculpting, take yourself further. so chantix can help you quit slow turkey.key.
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before i go tphurbfurther this morning, we in gilroy, california. while families were spending time together at a local festival a wicked murderer opened fire and killed three innocent citizens, including a young child. we grief tore their families and ask that god will comfort them with his overflowing mercy and grace. we are praying for those who are recovering right now in the hospital. some very, very serious injuries. we thank the brave members of law enforcement. they never let us down, who swiftly killed the shooter. we reaffirm our national will to answer violence with the courage, determination and resolve of one american family. we will continue to work together as communities and citizens to stop evil, prevent
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violence, and protect the safety of all americans. we're joined for today's ceremony by our wonderful vice president mike pence. thank you, mike, very much. thank you. along with many distinguished guests. i want to begin by recognizing a leader many of you know very well. on september 11th, he declared the city of new york and the united states of america as. stronger than any group of bar baric terrorists strengthen, our willingness to defend ourselves will ultimately prevail. and he was right. a great area of the city of new york, our greatest mayor, in my opinion, now, what do i know, rudy giuliani. stand up, rudy. great job, rudy. great job. rudy's got a lot of guts. thanks also to deputy attorney
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general jeffrey rosen for being here. thank you, jeff. thank you very much. along with senator deb fischer and representatives michael burgess, chris collins, brian fitzpatrick, peter king, john joyce, mark meadows, and dan music. >> you have been listening to president trump speaking live at the white house rose garden making those remarks, the first time we have heard from the president on camera about that deadly shooting in gilroy, california overnight. it is a story the president has been briefed on, obviously. you heard him talk about the victims, including a 6-year-old little boy. you heard from his dad earlier in the show. the president juggling quite a few things. not just the response nationally to that california shooting but another major shakeup inside his national security team. dan coats now out as director of national intelligence. and the president's pick to take over, one of his biggest
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defenders over on capitol hill, congressman john ratcliffe from texas. you may remember him from the mueller hearings. he may have used it to audition for the president. >> i agree with the chairman when he said donald trump is not above the law. he's not. but he damn sure shouldn't be below the law, which is where volume 2 of this report puts him. >> joining me here on set, former cia director john brennan and senior national security and intelligence analyst. great to have you on the show. >> good morning. >> your reaction overall that he is accepting dan coats resignation. >> i think he did an admirable job in a difficult time. he had the independence and the integrity that the men and women of the intelligence community expect. mr. ratcliffe, however, appears to be somebody who is more interested in pleasing donald
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trump. he doesn't have intelligence background. he is on the intelligence committee in the house. but that is very, very limited in terms of his experience. >> we have his biocard on the screen. what you make of his qualifications or credentials for the job. however do you think that confirmation process is going to go? >> well, i think it is going to be difficult. i'm hoping it is not just the democrats who will challenge him. i think the republicans also need to look at his lack of intelligence experience. again, at a difficult time, in your national security. and making sure that he is going to be able to tell mr. trump what's going on in north korea, iran, or terrorism and not just give mr. trump and the rest of the community what he believes mr. trump wants him to hear and what mr. trump wants others to hear. >> based on reporting, dan coats was very vocal about the threat of election interference. that is an area that the president apparently didn't necessarily love to hear about
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all that much. >> yes. . and dan coats is a senator, republican senator. but he had experience. he served as u.s. ambassador to germany, on the senate intelligence committee. during a period of bipartisanship. so i think he was able to demonstrate he put national security above any type of personal loyalty. and that is not what i am taking away from mr. ratcliffe's comments. >> as far as dan coats, there was that moment very notable at the as salesperson cutpen secur. there were some developments on the president potentially meeting with vladimir putin. here is that moment on stage. >> we have some breaking news. the white house has announced on twitter that vladimir putin is coming to the white house in the fall. >> say what again? >> yeah.
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. >> that's going to be special. >> what does that say to you about that relationship? >> it says dan coats cannot help but be honest and truthful to the american public. and he is not going to filter his comments based on what he believes mr. trump wants to hear. again, that's not what my impression is of mr. ratcliffe. not just because he's a politician. we have had previous politicians run in the past. george h.w. bush was director of cia. after he was a congressman and politician, leon panetta was also the head of cia after he was a politician. but they demonstrated they understood the importance of the truth to power. whether it was gerald ford or president obama for panetta. i have no sense that trump is looking for someone to speak truth to him about all of these challenges around the globe that threaten our national security. mr. ratcliffe does not give me any confidence that you will that he can direct the men or
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women of the intelligence committee to do what they knee to do at this troubling time. i'm hoping the republicans and the democrats in the senate are going to give this domination nomination very, very rigorous scrutiny. they deserve to have someone who can carry out duties with responsibility and with integrity and with truthfulness. that is not what donald trump is looking for. >> stand back and talk more bradley about the state of national security in the u.s. right now. not just the change in dni but something that could be updated more thoroughly. the role has obviously changed. the way intelligence agencies work together to change. >> well, it's about 15 years now since the passage of 2004 that set up the director of national intelligence position. head of the cia was before that head of the community. itpa rightly separated out the jobs. they are very two big
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responsibilities. >> yeah. >> does doesn't mean that the role and the office of the d and i be reviewed. look at the 15-year experience. what can be done to refine it or moderate it in some way? >> yeah. >> i think that's important. whether or not mr. ratcliffe will allow that to happen or support something like that, i don't know. >> the "new york times" reports some republicans, to your point earlier, privately expressed concerns including richard burr, cautioning advisers they considered ratcliffe too political pore the post. what are you hearing from folks about the possibility that john ratcliffe ends up being the guy in this position? >> richard burr, who has a lot of respect within the intelligence community, and has served as chair of the senate intelligence committee with great responsibility, honeyest and intelligent, his comments
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about him being too political for the position, reflects the sentiments of other senators, republicans and democrats, but also the men and women of the intelligence community. i think they have to have somebody at the top who is going to, first of all, understand the profession, understand the sensitivity of the issues, as well as be able to represent them to the first customer, senior policymakers and to cob and the world. and if you have somebody out there who will be object seek kwrous to mr. trump, that is not someone who will instill confidence in the men and women serving 24/7 around the globe on behalf of their fellow citizens. i say this as further politicization of the process. this threatens the rule of law as well as the independence and objectivity of the profession.
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>> great to have you on the show. thank you for being with us. . >> thank you. you heard director brennan talk about the importance of this, the concern that havesome have about ratcliffe being put in this position. what are sources telling you? >> i have been poking around on the senate dynamics. on the republican side, it all remains to be seen. one senior aide i spoke to said there are no red flags at the moment they see. and the presumption tends to be, this is me talking not the aide, this is for confirmation. they always always get confirmed. democrats are coming out swinging early and aggressively. chuck schumer accused him of blind loyalty to the president, said he was partisan and it could be a big mistake to elevate him to a role like this. and i think many democrats are thinking about the fact that ratcliffe has been willing to accept the president's version and vision on russia as compared to someone like dan coats, who was visibly and clearly
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uncomfortable with the coziness of that relationship between the president and putin. so keep an eye on this. or there 53 republicans in the senate. but this could be a tough fight. >> given the point there about dan coats not always eye to eye with the president didn't come as a surprise. >> his jabs for months and months, especially after he came out and defended the intelligence community's assessment that there was interference by russia in our elections. he also broke with the president on a number of issues, including north korea, and congressional testimony. but, look, i want to point out the reason why this is so concerning for democrats, and even privately for some republicans, is because dan coats was sort of the last link between trump and the gop establishment. he was one those willing to
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break position with trump. he is surrounded by yes men and trump loyalists. you see what attorney general barr has done in that role. >> you guys stick around. we will come back to you in a few minutes. thank you much for that. after the break, one day now until the second democratic debate. it is sure to touch on race. one of the top contenders seemed to struggle with last go round. what does joe biden need to do now? that's next. at does joe biden no now? that's next. this is the story of john smith. not this john smith or this john smith. or any of the other hundreds of john smiths that are humana medicare advantage members. no, it's this john smith, who met with humana
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>> it is going down in detroit. 24 hours from now, debate number two for the democrats. they are hoping to replace get again putting race front and center in the 2020 election battle. democratic candidates furious with what they say is a pattern of racist tweets from president trump. keep in mind communities of color will be critical for whoever ends up getting the nomination as our own nbc news national political correspondent steve kornacki knows well. ali vitale. vaughan hillyard in detroit ahead of the two-night battle.
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steve, you have been doing this months tai chi long deep dive we are so fortunate to have sharing with our viewers here today. on how much african-american votes mean to the candidates. >> we thought we would put numbers on the democratic primary. this is the modern history, the share of the democratic electorate black voters accounted for. the project we put together since in 1976 based on exit polls. we didn't have enough to get a good number on. when the modern era begins, it was single digits. you look all the way to 2016, the most recent primary was 24%. we think that is going to be at least that high in 2020. so basically 1 in every 4 votes
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will come from black voters. what we did is look at all the exit polls. that else are hard to find. a lot of media organizations like this one, took them and tossed them in the trash. we have to go find them again. democratic primaries. you see who won the black vote nationally in each one of these? back to the carter race. a big change in the 80s when jesse jackson runs for president. since 1992, you can start there. bill clinton wins the black vote in 1992. no nominee since '92 has not won without also winning the black vote. we put this up on nbc
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cheap plug. ton of archive data, news clips, check it out, please. >> i was going to plug it for you, my friend. you are stepping on me at that point. it's awesome. steve, while i have you, let me ask you this. we have been talking about the president's attacks now against, for example, elijah cummings, the other tweets against the so-called squad, if you will. he is clearly fanning the flames at the center of his strategy come 2020. put it into historical perspective. >> well, it's interesting. the closest parallel was pat buchan buchanan. he is acting like a general election strategy. one way of looking at this that is interesting, we talk about is trump going to fire up his base. >> right. >> and the other angle on this, one other angle is this.
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this gets into our project. black voter turnout in general elections. this is the most recent four presidential elections. 2008, 2012. it spoked from 60% to mid to high 60s when obama was running. hillary clinton fell just short in 2016. it dropped down to 60% in 2016. one of the goals can you get it back? is he going to fire up blue collar white voters? what if it helps to raise black turnout for democrats? that could be an opposite effect that could hurt trump >> really interesting. go check out nbc steve, thank you. >> thank you. ali vitale is out with
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senator elizabeth warren. ali, we are looking ahead here to tomorrow night, the big second round of debates here. and the back drop of the president's continued attacks on lawmakers. what do you hear from folks on the ground? >> i think a lot of democratic voters say they are looking at that debate as a way to start making preliminary decisions because they say it is still very early in the process. campaigns have been telling us that. there is concern about what the attacks and the differentiates these from the rest of the pack might do to the democratic brand overall. there's concern about that from voters. listen to what they told me. >> i wish they would all get-together and say, look, this is what we're not going to do. yeah. once you become the nominee, the shrapnel -- i mean, you've left everyone in your wake.
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and the opponent has used what everyone else has used the last year. yeah, i wish they would make ground rules definitely. >> there are people who say this is a primary. this is what happens in primaries. the debate is healthy for the party. no? >> the debate is healthy. going at each other personally i don't think is healthy at all. >> that concerns me, too. because some of the things that people have a right to change their opinions. and some of the things that have been done in the past or said in the past, and i'm talking about years previously. maybe their outlook has changed. you need to consider what they have done the last five years or the last 10 years. >> look, clearly, hallie, that voter was talking about the exchange between kamala harris and joe biden. >> yeah. >> the thing that candidates have to keep in mind, there is a desire to get out in front of the pack, to have that moment that pops out of the debate stage and back on the campaign
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trail. in the course of that, you have to remember some of the voters have candidates they like right now. they may remember the attacks leveled against them at this early point in the primary. we saw how that manifested between hillary clinton and bernie sanders. there were sanders supporters and hillary clinton supporters with bad blood in there. the democrats have to keep that in mind on the debate stage going forward. vaughan hillyard, up until now senator harris has been mixed on health care. >> reporter: senator harris in in detroit at this coffee shop. this morning she put out her own medicare for all plan. there's been a lot of comminution, particularly among voters at townhall events. she put out a plan that puts her in the middle between where
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pwarpdz and elizabeth warren are, on the abolishment of private insurance. and joe biden's plan. she said universe wral coverage begins immediately. everybody is put on a medicare for all plan. what is new is essentially allowing private insurers to offer their own medicare plans. but she is very specific in saying if they want to play in this ball game they have to adhere to strict cost and benefit requirements. again, this is part of her proposal. essentially saying private insurance companies can have a role in this. if they want to play in the game, they have to meet and match the public government option is. when you're looking at this, that is where the question is, to what extent could the private insurance companies play in this game. our colleague shaquille brewster talked with bernie sanders about that. he said as long as private
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insurance is in the ball game, they will continue to try to make a profit. >> thanks to both you road warriors. we will see more of you tomorrow and the next day as well. next up on this show, after weeks of fighting and mounting political pressure on congress, funding for 9/11 first responders is finally permanent. president trump has just signed that bill. i will be speaking with first responder john feal, who played this a life mission. that's next. this a life mission. that's next. look limu. a civilian buying a new car. let's go. limu's right. liberty mutual can save you money by customizing your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. oh... yeah, i've been a customer for years. huh... only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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just in the last couple moments, president trump signed into law the 9/11 victims' compensation bill. the survivors have been fighting hard for this money with the help of comedian jon stewart. he was hitting hard not just on mitch mcconnell but the two senators who voted against the bill. it is now guaranteed through the year 2092. >> i was down there also. but i'm not considering myself a first responder. but i was down there. >> president trump there talking about his memories of 9/11. joining me now demolition worker and president of the feal good foundation, john feal. appreciate you coming on.
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>> thank you for having me. >> give me a sense how you're feeling now. i know you have been waiting for this day for a very long time. >> yeah, again, we're not celebrating. i did this for 15 years. i'm just relieved that the 9/11 responders, the people in lower manhattan, children of lower manhattan in the 12 cools, that they can get the financial relief they deserve. and for men and women that walked the halls of congress back in 2015, back in 2010, i'm so proud of them. we get to exhale. and the relief it's just an amazing feeling. listen, i'm not going to be away from d.c. much longer. we're going to tackle another project. for those of who walked the halls of congress with me, i ask them to put down their swords, pick up a rake and watch
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something grow, be with their loved ones. they're the reason we got this passed. jon stewart, you're my best friend and i love you. >> oh, there's that amazing picture of you and jon stewart the day that -- i think this is it, actually, the day this passed the senate just recently. you talked about the fight not being over. i imagine this is an emotional day for you. >> i cried. i'm on the verge of crying now. i'm relieved. it is like popping a big political pimple. to watch the president sign this into law, i know tens of thousands of people will get help. the president when he signed the bill and gave me the pen he said i'm more famous than him. i said i don't think so. but i'm not done.
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so maybe i will be. >> this was all building up over the last couple of weeks. you have more work to do? >> yeah. i want to thank mitch mcconnell. he kept to his word after that meeting. he was straightforward and honest. you know, listen, we got a bill passed 97-2 somebody in d.c. owes some he a thank you. there is a pay for waiting to be used on another bill. the fact that this bill passed in the house and the senate without a pay for, 402-12, 9 7-2, says a lot about the american people who supported us, who the american people, they wrote emails and made phone calls, went to congressional districts and supported us. it took a village to get this done. i'm so happy for everyone who was involved. >> you are thinking about luis alvarez and this prolonged fight
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since 9/11. >> luis alvarez and the people he fought for are selfless men. ray and luis chose to be with us at the feal good foundation, walk the halls of congress and testify in front of committees. and -- this one's for them. >> an emotional day. i appreciate you joining us from the rose garden. >> much appreciated. thank you. >> up next on the show, more and morehouse democrats jumping on the impeachment band wagon. will or can this new pressure force the hand? we'll talk about that big question after the break. ut tha question after the break i switched to miralax for my constipation.
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today's merrill can help you get there with the people, tools, and personalized advice to help turn your ambitions into action. what would you like the power to do? 104. that is the number of house democrats who are now publicly calling for impeachment proceedings to begin against president trump. but there's pushback from leaders on the hill who say, listen, it's just not time yet. here's jerry nadler sunday. >> my personal view is he richly
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deserves impeachment. he violated the ways six ways from sunday. that's not the question. can we develop enough evidence to put before the american people is the question. >> joining me now nbc news leigh-ann caldwell. since the mueller hearing last week, you see this number. 12 house democrats have said, yes, we support impeachment. mueller had no recommendations during that hearing when it came to impeachment. what was "the x factor"? changed lawmakers's minds? >> reporter: democrats admit mueller's testimony was not emotional. but they say that it was impactful and factual. so they say that it unveiled the gravity of the president's misdeeds. that's why we are seeing dozen democrats since mueller testified come out in support of impeachment. a lot of these democrats are point to get obstruction of justice components, not only
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mueller's report but his testimony as well. and i think that the evidence here, the fact that you have democrats who are the most vulnerable coming out in support of impeachment, there's two of those dozens who -- of those dozen who are the most vulnerable who did come out in support of impeachment, shows that things are still shifting in that direction. in the immediate 24 to 48 hours after mueller's testimony and very few people came out in support of impeachment, people thought that mueller's testimony was a dud. but now that democrats have gone home to their districts, talking to constituents and being able to digest what mueller's testimony did, we now have a dozen, and i'm told that we should expect more to come out as well. >> leanne caldwell on capitol hill, thank you. let me bring back in melanie zanona who's joining us from washington. this number, 104, does it mean anything? does it change anything?
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>> well, not for nancy pelosi. i think you could have 200 democrats supporting impeachment, and she would remain unmoved until she thinks they have the strongest possible legal case. she said as much on friday. she said we will go when we're ready and not one day sooner. and the reason she doesn't feel comfortable is because, number one, the public polling is just not there yet. and number two she wants to protect her moderate members in the swing districts who could potentially be at risk of losing their seats if they have to take a position on something divisive like impeachment. now that being said we did see the house judiciary committee take a very significant step towards impeachment on friday. and pelosi signed off on this language in this court filing that essentially said democrats need to get access to grand jury material in mueller's report because they are actively considering whether to launch impeachment proceedings. that is very significant, the first time we've seen that in writing. >> yeah. >> and i think that is an effort by pelosi to sort of throw a bone to this pro-impeachment wing of the democratic caucus.
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>> melanie zanona, thank you for joining us. stick around later in the show. we'll go back now to our top story this morning, president trump digging in after his explosive attack on the city of baltimore on congressman elijah cummings and now on the reverend al sharpton. the president calling reverend sharpton a con-man and a troublemaker who, quote, hates whites. after that news conference at the top of the show, the reverend joins us. thanks for being on. >> thank you. >> reverend sharpton, what is your message to president trump this morning? >> well, my message is that he should not continue to try and sell this racist behavior to try and make the country more divided for his own political gain. his attacks on elijah cummings and his district here is
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something that is absolutely horrible. first of all, part of congressman cummings' district is very stable, it is probably the most educated and economically mobile african-american district that we know in the northeast if not the country. but his whole stoereo typing of them is racist. and then for those of us to deal with the question of black home ownership. we scheduled this conference a month ago. we had no idea we would be here the weekend the president would attack mr. cummings and then he's going to attack me as a troublemaker and a con-man. i am a troublemaker. i am going to make trouble anytime racists and bigots start making trouble. if he really thought i was a con-man he'd be nominating me to his cabinet. >> you've known him for a couple of decades, i think. what happened? >> i've known him for decades.
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i've marched against him on central park five and this -- >> he's come to my conventions. he cut the ribbon. when he was a democrat, i wasn't a con-man then. he's playing a race baiting crowd. he called me after he was elected president and asked me to go to mar-a-lago and meet with him. omarosa he sent and asked for meetings. if he felt that way, why would he call me after he won the election? he confirmed the call. this is race baiting at its best. this is donald trump playing the race card, and it is a shame and it is a sham. >> you may remember, because i do back on the campaign trail when then candidate trump was running for president he delivered a speech and one of his messages was this pledge to help communities of color, to specifically help these communities lift out of poverty
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and deal with crime, for example. here's a part of the speech with a line that's become quite familiar to people who covered the campaign. >> you're living in poverty. your schools are no good. you have no jobs. what the hell do you have to lose? >> did you believe president trump and his promises back then, and do you think you could work with him now? >> no, i did not believe him then because his record in new york, it was all talk, and he's certainly the only racial case he ever stood up on was when he asked for the execution of five innocent young men in central park. but when we would raise that, and the racist nature of the birther movement that he became the face of, they would say we were race baiting. because that is how trump would try to play it. i do not think that he's committed to anything but playing on racism and bigotry. and i think he's gambling that america's not grown.
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yes, there are a lot of racists left and bigots, but i don't think the majority of the american public, and i think they will vote against this kind of demagoguery that's playing race. we're here today, republican and democrat, meeting to deal with home ownership, stuff he claimed he would deal with and has not. >> reverend al sharpton, thank you very much for joining us on the show. i appreciate it, sir. we'll be right back. the clock is ticking on irreversible joint damage. ongoing pain and stiffness are signs of joint erosion. humira can help stop the clock. prescribed for 15 years, humira targets and blocks a source of inflammation that contributes to joint pain and irreversible damage. humira can lower your ability to fight infections. serious and sometimes fatal infections including tuberculosis, and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure.
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hour of msnbc live. so glad you could be here with us on this monday morning. and i'm glad to put you in the capable hands of my colleague chris jansing in new york. >> i'm in here craig melvin. escalating his rhetoric. president trump this morning firing off new attacks against democratic congressman elijah cummings and the people he represents. why it's the latest sign he's leaning into a strategy he thinks will help him win next year. plus, chaos and confusion, police still trying to piece together exactly what happened when a gunman opened fire inside a california food festival, killing at least three people, wounding more than a dozen others. why police this morning aren't ruling out a second suspect. and the end of a tumultuous tenure, dan coats is set to leave next month after he and president trump reportedly clashed over issues ranging from russia to north korea. >


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