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and some of thomas cook's brass also blame the collapse on the uncertainty surrounding brexit. regardless, ali velshi, a lot of people who have been stranded and some say i like this vacation. others are like, i cannot afford this. get me home now. >> and it's a hard thing to explain to your boss. people being on vacation is one thing. stranded sounds better than it is. >> yeah. especially when you have spent all of your money already. i'm back at 5:00. >> that's right. as usual. >> that's it. >> see you later then. it's monday, september 23rd. quote be very careful with the fully armed device. that's what the fbi said a u.s. army soldier told an undercover investigator in an internet chat room. now federal prosecutors charged that soldier with giving instructions on how to build an explosive device and talking about possible attacks in the
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united states. nbc news justice correspondent pete williams has been following this and joins me now with details of the latest. what do we know about the story? >> doesn't appear to be specific attack plans and this soldier talked about possible targets and never had any actual plans. he's 24 years ole. his name is jarrett william smith. a private army first class at kansas and according to court documents the fbi said he started talking three years ago about fighting in ukraine with a paramilitary group and joined the army two years ago and even after joining the army the fbi said he was posting on a chat room on facebook instructions on how to make homemade bombs, improvised explosive devices and instructions to use a cell phone to detonate such a device. according to the fbi, he then in august began talking to a man who he thought was a like-minded
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person. but who turned out to be an undercover agent for the fbi. and according to the fbi and the court documents, he said that he might want to attack -- smith said he might want to attack members of the antifa or a major news network headquarters. the name of the news network is blacked out in the document so we don't know what it is. and then in a conversation about eight or nine days ago, the fbi says, he told the undercover further instructions on how to make explosive devices and at one point the undercover asks him, you got any targets down in texas that would be a good fit for an attack? and according to the court documents smid said, out of beto, i don't know enough people relevant enough to cause a change if they died. that's an apparent reference to
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beto o'rourke who said about taking assault rifle from people. o'rourke said he's been in touch with the fbi and they take these threats very seriously. he said this isn't -- this is the campaign. this isn't about one person or one campaign and we won't let this scare us or cause us to back down in fighting for what's right. so the charge here, ali, is distributing information about explosives. it's illegal. he could face up to 20 years in prison, maximum sentence. >> thank you, pete. all right. when is it enough? that's what congresswoman talib asked moments ago. at the center of it is a whistle-blower complaint claiming that trump pressured ukraine's president during a phone call to investigate his political rival joe biden along with biden's son hunter. now that the white house is stonewalling congress from obtaining the complaint, house
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democrats plan to fight back. on thursday, the acting director of national intelligence joseph maguire will testify in front of the house intelligence committee as to why he did not pass along the initial whistle-blower complaint to congress in the first place and in a letter to her colleagues on sunday speaker nancy pelosi warned that if the white house continues to block efforts to obtain the complaint the administration, quote, will be entering a grave new chapter of lawlessness into a new stage of investigation. president trump today seemed unfazed. >> mr. president, how seriously are you taking the impeachment talk? >> not at all seriously. we had a perfect call with the president of ukraine. everybody knows it. it's just a democrat witch hunt. hi they failed with russia and recession and everything. and now they're bringing this up. >> all right. joining me from capitol hill is jeff bennett and hans nichols at trump tower in new york city
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while the president is in town for the u.n. general assembly. jeff, what is happening on congress about this? there are people who have said this feels -- can't believe i'm saying this again -- but a bridge too far, feels like the thing that has really got congress now serious about the fact that the president has done things that are entirely inappropriate and needs to be taken to task formally for it. >> reporter: rank and file house democrats i think sound increasingly inclined to move toward impeachment now that president trump is admitting to do some of what he is accused of and i think the view held by the democrats is that if president trump used his presidential powers to in effect invite a foreign power to meddle in our election and if he held as -- held up as a bride military aid that was approved by this congress well then, in that case this congress would have no choice but to move to remove him from office. that said, though, the
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colleague -- the dear colleague letter you referenced is still talking about investigations. not impeachment. and we have seen this sort of semantic dance before and this is something where certainly words matter and so she's saying if the acting director of national intelligence shows up here on thursday for that hearing and doesn't turn over that complaint she still saying that that represents a new chapter of the investigation. she is not moving toward impeachment but look. this is an area where i think frustration is pal p shl. you have some democrats who have said that the slow moving pace of this investigation so far is ineffectual and makes them look weak and so today there's a pro-impeachment rally held. al green was there, as well. i asked him not just about the timeline to see democrats take action on this but this unintended consequences of not holding president trump to account. here's what he told me. >> i'm for impeachment.
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i'm not for simply looking into it. i think we have had enough of investigations. i think we need to move forward. we will at some point reach that tipping point where people will conclude that this is politics, that it's not principle. >> reporter: so the view that he and many other rank and file democrats have is that if congress does not move now the balance between congress and the executive branch will be forever altered and there will be few if any checks and balances left. ali? >> thank you. hans nichols, how's this playing with the president? >> reporter: we had the strongest denial or defense yet of the president of the united states as it relates to the ukrainian phone call. listen kcarefully. he is not denying that a phone call took place or that they discussed joe biden's family and
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the investigation but listen to exactly what the president's denying and then we'll have a chat on the backside. >> so joe biden, very dishonested, when you see the call, i hope you sigh it, frankly, you will find out that i did not do that at all and very disappointed when you see it. it's disgrace. >> on the whistle-blower, you said you want the transcript of the call released. >> i didn't say that at all. i didn't say that at all. it may get released. i don't think it's a great precedent to be releasing calls with foreign countries, heads of foreign countries. i don't think it's a great precedent. i didn't say i was going to release it at all. it's a great call, honorable call, a nice call. the ukrainian government last night very strongly announced that the call was a very nice call. >> did he just say that? strongly that the call is a nice call? >> reporter: well, he may be
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referring to a -- something that the foreign minister said in local interview i believe on saturday where he said it was a smooth call and that was the readout from the ukrainian foreign minister. again, this is them -- their take on a relationship with a country that ukraine clearly needs and that's the united states but the president's denials are about a quid pro quo. he did not explain what's on the call and hinting and a hint, not a promise, that they may release the transcript of that call. ali? >> all right. thank you both for your reporting on this. for fact's sake, look at what we do know about this. despite president trump and rudy giuliani's repeated allegations against the bidens, no evidence of wrongdoing tied to joe biden or son hunter's ukrainian business is found. it's a complex one back to 2004. i want to walk you through it. president trump has repeatedly suggested without any evidence whatsoever that joe biden used his power as vp to pressure
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ukraine to fire the country's top prosecutor viktor shokin. he was a former general prosecutor of ukraine investigating the owner of burisma that hunter wokked for. at the time, the former vice president biden spearheading u.s. efforts to tackle corruption in ukraine. a position that was supported by other western countries and many within ukraine. criticism grew against the decision to serve on the board but he was a private citizen at the time. however, despite president trump's claims, the former prosecutor who succeeded shokin said he saw no wrongdoing. joe biden said he never spoke with his son about the work and adding president trump is creating a false smear campaign against me and my family. the president and steve mnuchin
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pushed back accusing biden of lying again without citing any evidence. all right. i want to bring in bradley moss whose firm represents the whistle-blower who filed the complaint to the intelligence communities inspector general. bradley, thank you for joining us. >> good afternoon. >> this is -- you know, president trump talking about a thing without any basis or fact but then disclosing or hiding the fact that he was on a conversation with the president of ukraine talking about something else. >> yeah. well, the president's certainly trying to frame a narrative here and been the selective leaks of what the substance of the disclosure may or may not have been. there's been no leak from the whistle-blower and from the legal team representing the whistle-blower confirming any of the details of what actually was the full universe of claims outlined in that whistle-blower complaint and validated by the
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inspector general of the intelligence community but now the president with the leaks and appears to have involve this communication, this phone call with the ukrainian president trying to say there's no big deal with it. i had a nice, lovely call with him. people need to wait and they need to let all of the information to come out before they render judgment on what happened here. >> okay. what is the responsibility of the justice department who got the complaint or the director of national intelligence or people in the -- like, what has to be done? when you say people have to wait, i agree with you. but from whom do we get this information? >> yeah. so the interesting thing here is normally speaking we would know nothing about the complaints. this mechanism, the process by which this come pro sesz is must be itted it is the intelligence community whistle-blower act. it's from the individual to the inspector general. if the inspector general finds it credible which happened here,
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might remember that inspector general appointed by president trump, if that inspector general finds it credible it gets transmitted through the dni to the congressional committees. the information itself is still classified. the public generally knows nothing about these submissions but because something was done different here, because the dni got guidance from the doj and withheld the complaint from congress now we know what's going on and a political fight over how to handle this inherent tension of the two branches of government. >> what should happen? in a really good world that worked efficiently, what should now happen? >> the complaint like any other circumstance where it's validated sent to the house and senate intelligence committees. the individuals there who have access to it are still bound to maintain the sanctity of classified information. they were in violation if they leak the details to the public and violating federal law. but people, we have no idea who they are, probably from the
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white house, national security council, leaking out the details to frame a narrative and none of the substance is confirmed yet because it's held secret and confidential by the whistle-blower. >> so this is the issue. the one thing that's been referred to about the whistle-blower is that president trump -- president tweet? that was not intended. the whistle-blower was highly partisan. we have now created a world in which everybody's looking for the whistle-blower and this whistle-blower has a scarlet letter for better or for worse for being partisan. that can't be a good thing. >> horrible. if this person is out, i know a lot of the media trying to figure out who this person is, their career in the intelligence community and the government itself is probably over. they didn't break any laws but they will have that scarlet letter on them. they'll never be employed again in the u.s. government and all they did was follow the law to raise the concern about what they saw.
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they could have been the most partisan person on the planet. it doesn't matter. the statute doesn't care and the inspector general appointed by this president validated it. >> bradley moss, thank you for joining us. a national security attorney whose firm representing the whistle-blower who filed the initial complaint to the intelligence community's inspector general. all right. up next, may have dropped out of the 2020 presidential race but washington governor's push for climate change is living on with his former democratic rivals, many of whom channelling the policies and influence over the debate on climate change crisis. the governor joins me next. . plus, greta isn't the only young activist pushing for change. i'm going to talk to two students, one as young as 11 years old also here in new york to hold world leaders accountable. you're watching msnbc. ed for your home at a great price,
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climate change is literally the top of the agenda for the world leaders in new york u.n. general assembly. they spoke at the climate action summit and pledged to prevent more dangerous levels but they conceded that the efforts so far have not been enough. president trump was expected to skip the event but he didn't. he stopped by for about 15 minutes and the president saying cha it's a hoax was asked why he even showed up. >> big believer in clean air and
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clean water and all countries should get together and do that. and they should do it for the themselves. very, very important. >> the u.n. summit comes days after a dozen democratic and one republican presidential candidate took part in climate forum 2020 at georgetown university in washington. they answered questions from chris hays and me and from college students from around the country about what they would do to fight climate change if they were in the white house. washington governor made climate change the central issue out campaign before dropping out last month. while he was not at the forum, his name came up a few times. >> what's the thing that it looks like to you to make sure that everybody understands that this is an emergency? >> well, first, head of a epa that believes in the epa and believes in climate change. that's day one. secretary of energy that has the same vision that i have, that our leader -- new leadership
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will have about where we need to go. i think the climate change czar is a good idea. you know? maybe jay insly. >> who do you reach out to immediately when you become president? to get this done. >> i think probably a big argument between 49 states and washington state. it's going to be we want jay insley. no. we want jay insley. he will have a big decision to make. >> washington governor joins me now. clearly you've had an impact on the race. you know? we are sorry you couldn't have been there. >> right. >> but you have a number of candidates pointed to you as a guy who made this thing central to the discussion. what does it look like to you now? how do you want democrats to keep this ball rolling? >> i'd like them to continue to raise their ambitions and profile and raise the comprehensive robustness of the plans that has happened.
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i'm gratified in that regard. i will not be in the white house but i do believe my candidacy helped advance the ball significantly. but look. it wasn't just me. it is the young people around the world who are demanding action on a moral basis from their elders. that's what's really moving the needle on this together with the number of tragedies. houston again under water just like the midwest and increase in hurricane activity and the combination of disasters, push from me in a presidential campaign and the moral voice of the kids moving the ball big time and the candidates are responding to it. they understand there's a rocket fuel on this effort right now and glad they're using it. >> i'd like to point out bill weld a republican did show up to this thing and conservatives from georgetown attended. you have long believed that this shouldn't be -- governors can be very inflint shl with changing things and shouldn't be partisan. >> no. it shouldn't be. it isn't around the world. that's one place in the world
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where it has unfortunately taken partisanship tones because we have one party, the republican party, who's abandoned the concept of conservation that teddy roosevelt started us on and very sad to see the grand old party to stick their head in the sand and tail feathers in the sand. we have a couple of governors to join the climate alliance. we have 25 states moving. we have 25 states today that are committed to the paris agreement. we would be the third largest nation in the world if we were a separate nation. 60% of the u.s. economy so we are making progress in the united states. i talked to the world community this morning on this subject and said, look, hearing the word united states think states. because states are leading. >> right. >> right now we don't have that in the u.s. congress and the republican party. i hope it shows up but until then they need to be retired from office if they won't help out and i think greta thunberg's message is right which is how dare you steal our future?
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that's the right message to a party who are not helping so far. >> what do you make of donald trump? at the g7 he said he's the biggest environmentalist you have ever met and said he likes clean air and clean water. it is like he figured outlines to use to make him not say climate change is a hoax which he said in the past but talking about clean air and clean water is a piece of the very big pie on climate. >> yes. he is the biggest environmentalist just like he is the biggest feminist in the world, too, right? but there's a lesson here i think actually. why would he say something that everybody knows is a farce? it exposes him for recognizing how weak he is on this issue. he knows he's vulnerable. this is the issue which is the environment and climate change where americans distrust him the most. it is his weakest point and i really believe we should attack him in the election at his
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weakest point with our strongest candidate and a decision to make because right now who would trust him with our clean air and clean water? >> why do you think he showed up at this thing? he is not the biggest environmentalist. >> made a deal to stay in the hotels that he would show up. something like that. otherwise it's just ridiculous. and that is becoming obvious across the nation and in the election we need to make it a voting decision and it can and should be and the vast majority of americans want action on this issue, they know it's hurting them in the individual lives. and they know we're creating jobs like crazy. i went to the large bio refinery plant with dozens of employees. the largest photo voluntarily tayic manufacturer. we are building jobs like crazy. this is an economic growth message that we can win in michigan, minnesota, ohio, wisconsin because we're giving people an answer to the future which is jobs.
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and so, i'm looking forward to getting that candidate. >> good do see you again. thank you for being here. >> thank you. all right. up next, how the rising tensions between the united states and iran are overshadowing president trump's appearance at the u.n. general assembly and the burning question, will the two meet while they're both in new york this week? hacking experts comb through the network of campaigns. we'll tell you why later in the hour. s can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur.
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i trust em, i think you can too. the war of words of the united states and iran continues as the leaders of both countries are among those gathering at united nations this week. president trump is expected to talk about iran when he speaks to the u.n. general assembly tomorrow. this comes days after he approved the deployment of u.s. troops to saudi arabia following the attacks on oil facilities earlier this month. during a meeting with pakistan's prime minister, the president said that american sanctions had taken a toll on iran. >> iran, if you look at what that's been the state of terror and i've been saying it is in the world and the agreement we had does not cover that. it was not doing well. it was doing very poorly. now iran is doing very poorly. iran is a different place than when i took over.
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when i took over the united states, when i became president, iran was a real threat to the entire middle east and maybe beyond and now they're having very, very big difficulties to put it mildly. >> before he left for new york, iranian president rowhani said the u.s. sanctions failed and that iran successfully resisted the pressure. despite the events in saudi arabia and the accusations from both sides, president trump has not ruled out a meeting with rowhani while in new york. joining us now, former california congresswoman jane harmon and rahmi corey from the american university of beirut. welcome to both of you. jane, first of all, you know, donald trump has sort of said -- exaggerates about iran and they're both a little right. iran is suffering as a result of these sanctions.
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but is -- first of all, do you think they'll meet? do you think that's likely? would that be fruitful? >> i think it -- i'm betting trump would like to meet. i have no insight into this and betting he would like to meet. i hope he comes with a strategy for the meeting. it is not just a photo-op. it would be a disaster if it's a photo-op given iran's attack but not proven but likely attack on saudi arabia and oil. so no. a photo-op is a bad idea. a conversation maybe not over the air waves is a good idea toward what? what is frankly i would say restoring the terms of the old deal which he never should have walked away from but making them stronger. there's a foreign policy victory here for president trump if he will focus instead of -- >> strengthening a deal. >> strengthening a deal instead of saying it's the worst thing happening in history. >> i remember in detail talking to both of you when the deal happened, iran deal happened.
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there was nobody in the world who was dumb enough to think that this was the be all, end all, and necessarily make iran the best player in the region but there were hopes and aspirations for it and weaknesses in the deal and took the better part of a decade of work to get that deal and two very serious years with u.s. pressure. what does donald trump have to do to get this back on the rails? as jane said, people thought he pulled the plug on this too early. >> it's simple what he has to do. the iranians are clear about this. the iranians are always very precise and clear about what they want and they say what they want and then they do what they say. they want the unilateral sanctions to be pulled back. it's unlikely that trump is going to suddenly say we'll drop all the sanctions but they want substantive move showing the iranian people and the world that the unilateral sanctions put back on after the u.s. unilaterally pulled out of the deal that the sanctions are
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slowly withdrawn. that could open the way for the beginning of a dialogue but there has to be substantive pullback, draw back of sanctions by the u.s. to some extent that will allow this to happen. >> jane, i want to just quickly talk about israel because then read this to say it properly. very complicated what happened after the last election but israel's president had a second day of talks with netanyahu and his opponent gantz. netanyahu apparently offered to form a government. they take turns of who the prime minister is. there might be more recent information than even that but what do you see happening here? >> i'm surprised that rivlin wants them to work it out. i thought he would ask them to try to form a government, he got a few more seats. than netanyahu did. you know?
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it is not my country but i think the future for israel is a government that is a more unity and pluralistic government and i think good news that the arab israelis endorsed a side in the contest. >> they have endorsed his side. >> gantz's side and seems to be more interested in the broader coe tigs and where i think in the interest. last comment on netanyahu. there are going to be the corruption charges over his head. something will happen with that and i just would hope that rivlin would act more decisively. >> that's why netanyahu wants to be prime minister with the assurances against him. >> i hope because he wants to lead the country in a good direction. i'm just saying i think a pluralist democracy is best direction for israel. i think a two-state solution
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makes sense over the near period of years and i think there have been many missed opportunities and i hope that will be in israel's future. >> benny gantz is not a dove. he was the head of the military and seen to be more hawkish than benjamin netanyahu and he does to jane's implication, he seems to have a better sense of engagement with the global community, the united states and the region . is that a good read? >> it is but it is almost irrelevant to the core issue of peace with the palestinians based on equal rights on both people. what is happening to israel is political system has shifted to the right. the same thing in the arab world, as well. turkey, as well. and iran. all over the region. and so, gantz and netanyahu are two parts of the right wing of
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israel, gantz is closer to the center and three quarters of the israeli government don't have a problem with annexing arab land slowly trying to get palestinians out and keeping second class status for the palestinians. both the ones even israeli citizens who don't have all the same benefits that joewish israelis do. so there isn't much difference between them when it comes to the palestine/israel conflict. on other issues clearly there is a difference. >> i would just add to that that i think a different coalition to make a big difference in israel's direction and i hope however this ends up there's a different coalition with a center and few left in there. >> this one has stuck. >> stuck on the far right and i hope however it turns out that you're wrong and that there is a future for israel side by side with a state of palestine with
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secure borders. >> thank you for being here. u.s. prime minister boris johnson sat down with anchor lester holt for his only american television network interview and lester asked him about the recent attack on saudi arabian oil fields. >> are you now 100% in the lockstep with the u.s. that iran is behind the drone attack in saudi arabia? >> we are virtually certain that it was from iran. there was uavs involved and cruise missiles and no other workable hypothesis for how that happened. so that's -- presents the world with a very difficult scenario, very difficult situation. how do we respond? >> catch more of the interview
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e-mails. one of the reporters on the story nbc's national political reporter josh letterman joins me now. talk to me about this. what's happening? >> reporter: well, this is a really broad effort, ali, by the national security agencies going on for months to try to get the campaigns in better shape to defend themselves so the department of homeland security is running campaigns where they basically conduct fake hacking attacks against these campaigns to see if they can identify places that they don't have secure communications, secure situations and can fix that. the fbi had the local field offices working with campaigns and headquarters around the country both on physical security and on cyber security. the campaigns have been getting briefed by office of director after national intelligence. >> i would assume that the trump campaign or anybody else running against donald trump gets the same information, right? >> reporter: well, what's interesting, ali srks that
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there's limitations because the government can't share classified information with the campaigns whereas obviously president trump has full access to classified information so while the government is providing similar types of briefings and services to the trump campaign and the rnc as to the democrats certainly trump knows quite a bit more about the threat field than perhaps some democratic rivals. >> although the democratic rivals seem to be welcoming this and donald trump has still not fully acknowledged what the intelligence agencies say about interference in the 2016 election and their admonitions and warnings of the 2016 election. thank you for your reporting on this. a new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll not only shows doubts of president trump's re-election but top democratic contenders. correspondent steve kornacki joins me now. what are the big takeaways? >> number one, look, it's the bottom line question looking at a president gearing up for
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re-election. what is donald trump's approval rating with all voters sitting right now in this nbc poll at 45%, that's really right in the range that's defined his presidency. the worst fallen into the high 30s. at his best reached into the mid, maybe starting to get to the high 40s. but basically that's where he's been the entire time as president. and of course, that is a shaky number to be at heading into your re-election year. also interestingly, that's his job approval. what about this question of just what do people think of the president personally, president trump personally casino do they like him or dislike him? 69/29 dislike. a very, very high personal negative number for donald trump. of course, if you think back to election day 2016 he also had a very high personal negative number then. he was just able to get the right combination of votes in the right places to win. one of the reasons to get voters to dislike his opponent almost as intensely as him. is he able to do that again in
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2020? if you're a hopeful trump supporters, you might bitcoin to the issues of democratic voters in a different place than all voters. give you two examples from the poll. here's the question of government health care for the undocumented. and you see strong support there from democratic voters. about two thirds support there and not the same starting to look at all voters. that's one of the things you hear republicans, trump supporters saying, is the democratic primary process going to push the eventual nominee into some positions that may resonate with democratic primary voters but then turn around and hurt the democrat in the general election? that's a particular area they talk about. just this question of medicare for all. that's out there front and center in this debate and there you see more than 60% of democratic voters in support of that. about 41% it is for all voters so a bit of a gab gap there. ways to get voter that is don't
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necessarily like trump, don't necessarily approve of him as president to hold their nose and vote for him more against the democrats than for trump so sort of a hope that republicans have. it's a version of that that kind of worked for trump in 2016. quickly, to show you in the state of democratic race, who is the nominee up there against donald trump? how about this from iowa over the weekend? elizabeth warren, first time we have seen this pulling into a small lead and a lead nonetheless in an iowa poll. over joe biden. >> i have time for a quick question and skip the question of why steve is wearing a jacket and tie and go right to the issue of lots of people dislike donald trump personally but a larger number than like him like his policies. is that enough for people to hold their nose and say i don't like the guy but i like his policies and will vote for him again? >> yeah. well look. if you're a trump supporter, you look and say, the good news is the job approval outpacing the
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personal number there because the personal number you cannot win an election on but the question is at 45%, that in and of itself if you look historically at presidents seeking re-election, i don't think you look at 45% saying he can't win but it's a tricky number to win with. think back to 2016 and the things to set up for him, if he's re-elected he needs a similar combination of factors to happen for him again. >> we'll talk about the jacket and tie offline and see if that's a move you are making. i was about to shed my jacket. >> don't have the board. it changes everything. >> thank you for joining me. coming up, swedish climate activist greta thunburg told the united nations what is on her mind today. >> this is all wrong. i shouldn't be up here. i should be back in school on the other side of the ocean. yet you all come to us young
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one of the biggest advocates in the fight against climate change made an impassioned plea today to world leaders to act to save the planet. 16-year-old greta thunberg who sparked the climate spark movement got emotional when she demanded bold action from the leaders at the united nations climate action summit. >> people are suffering. people are dying. for more than 30 years the science has been crystal clear. how dare you continue to look away. you are failing us. but the young people are
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starting to understand your betrayal. >> now greta's not the only young activist who is trying to bring a deeper awareness to climate change. in fact, 16 children and teenagers filed a formal complaint on the climate crisis to the united nations child rights committee. they traveled from all over the world to talk about how climate change affects their lives every day and two of them join me right now. on the left of your screen radima pandi. she began her activism at the age of 9 when she sued the indian government over itfailure to act. carl smith is a member of the upic tribe in alaska which has been unable to sustain their traditional way of life because of climate change. thank you for being here. what a big deal. this is your second time on live tv. so now you're a pro. but talk to me about this. you're 9 years old, why did you decide to sue your government when you were nine? i know you're 11 now.
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>> so basically when like i got to know that all these things, droughts, floods, and all these things are -- climate change. and it is caused by human beings. it is increasing because of our bad activities. like we are using the fossil fuels in a great amount. so it hurts me that if the global continues on a large scale, it's going to affect our future only. like the children and the coming future generation is going to suffer. at that time i wanted to do something for that. and that's why i sued my government. >> that's amazing. what happened? >> basically, 2013 there was a flood. >> that's where you're from in india. >> yeah. so there was a flood in
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otarakon. so at that time the people can get help for more than weeks. so when they got help, so we got all these footage by like true television reporters. at that time i got to know that all these like this flood is caused by global warming, like the climate change that the cycle has disturbed. so this flood occurred. that's why. so at that time i got some interest on what is global warming, what is climate change. and why is it increasing? so at that time i got to know like all these things are like increasing due to human activities. and we have to stop. because if we do not stop it, it is going to affect our future. and we can't imagine our future like these droughts and floods. and i don't want a bad future. >> i hear you. carl, let's talk about the upic
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tribe and how the way of life for this tribe that you come from in alaska has been affected by some of the things that she's talking about by climate change. >> so during the winter we usually go caribou hunting, and it's just starting to rain more. and we used to get like 6 to 7 feet of snow. and when we try to go by snowmobile, we just fall through the ice mainly. and people are just falling through the ice when they travel to bethel. they fall through the ice, and most of them don't even make it. >> and you count on being able to use your snowmobiles on the snow on the ice to be able to get the caribou which are for food. >> yeah. and during summer, there was a big heat wave 90 to 100 degrees, and it just killed fish because the water was too warm. and there were fish floating down the river. we count on fish because we use it during the winter. we eat it during the winter. we survive on it. >> do you feel like you're
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getting taken seriously here at the united nations? >> yeah. i think i am. >> how about you? >> yeah. >> do you sometimes think that your conversations about climate are smarter than the people who you're talking to at the united nations? because i talk to a lot of people about climate. and the way you just talked about it is smarter than what a lot of people say. >> i don't think so. like, like, i'm not -- talk smarter. but like we have -- we have all gone through it. we have feeled it. so we know how it affects the humans. so we know that it affects climate change is really bad. so like we are very cautious about that. >> well, i appreciate that you have gone through this effort, that you've done what you've done in the places that you come from and that you're here in new york with us because you are forcing this to be a smarter conversation that everybody is listening to. so thank you to both of you, radima and carl, we appreciate
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the work you are doing. >> thank you for bringing us here. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm going to see you back here at 10:00 p.m. eastern for the last word. "deadline: white house" with nicolle wallace begins now. ♪ hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. from russia if you're listening to ukraine, take out joe biden for me, will you? donald trump making clear that he can't win the presidency without foreign interference and doesn't have any interest in trying. donald trump essentially confessing to the conduct in question admitting that he urged the ukrainians to investigate joe biden and all but confessing to connecting u.s. aid dollars or in trump's words "money k" t the request to investigate biden. here he is with what he discussed on july with the ukrainian president. >> the conversation i had was largely congratatory, all of the corruption taking place, was

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