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it's not mitt romney. that is "hardball" thank you for being with us. "the ed show" with ed shultd starts right now. good evening americans, welcome to "the ed show" in new york rush limbaugh is being abandoned by his advertisers. this is "the ed show," let's get to work. not one person says did you ever think about backing off the amount of sex that you have? >> the attacks on sandra fluke have not stopped and now rush limbaugh is complaining that he's the victim. >> this is about silencing me, removing my voice as a credible critic. >> the president has called sandra fluke one candidate has weighed in, another running away. major advertisers pulling out, but limbaugh's employer clear
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channel is silent on the matter. i think that needs to change. karen finney has the politic, krystal ball on the boycott and i'll ask reverendal sharpton if this is rush limbaugh's don imus moment. a montana judge who sent a racist e-mail about president obama is in hot water. emanuel clever of the congressional black caucus says an apology is not enough. he is here tonight. good to have you with us tonight, thanks for watching. breaking news off the top, mitt romney weighed in on the rush limbaugh controversy, we'll bring you his comments in a few moments as we're racking up the tape. rush limbaugh created, as you know, a media fire storm unlike anything we've seen in a long time. his outrageous comments about a georgetown student, sandra fluke, are absolutely shameful, but limbaugh has not backed down and today he continued his vial and despicable talk about the
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30-year-old college student. you first met here on the "the ed show." a woman, a law school student at georgetown has it reported about her that she is having so much sex she can't afford her birth control pills anymore. 30 years old, student at georgetown law. who admits to have so much sex that she can't afford it anymore. you know, i offered to pay for aspirins. i thought i'd been quite compassionate here. >> this is disgusting for so many reasons. first of all, rush has his facts wrong. perhaps the worst thing about it is is limbaugh keeps deliberately misrepresenting what she stands for. her testimony about contraception was not about her personally, it was about people
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with medical problems who need the pill for reasons other than pregnancy prevention. as she said in her testimony, the denials of contraceptive coverage impact real people in the worst cases, women who need this medication for other medical reasons suffer dire consequences. the president of the united states understands this college student and her message. he called her today to show his support. >> what did he say to you? >> he encouraged me and supported me and thanked me for speaking out about the concerns of american women and what was really personal for me was that he said to tell my parents that they should be proud and that meant a lot because rush limbaugh questioned whether or not my family would be proud of me so i appreciated that very much. >> fluke pointed out her parents have a different political persuasion than she does but that doesn't stop limbaugh from
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making hateful comments. >> okay, let me ask you a question. i might be surprised with the answer i would get to this question. your daughter appears before a congressional committee and says she is having so much sex she can't pay for it and wants a newell fair program to pay for it. new welfare program to pay for it. would you be proud? i -- i -- i'd be embarrassed. >> what do you think? has this gone far enough? where are the republicans to call for an end to all this? senator scott brown wants to get reelected in a blue state, he said the comments are reprehensib reprehensible, he should apologize. you can bet if it was someone on the left, brown would demand a resignation. congressman darrell issa blasted
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d democrats, i find your narrow focus on this to be self focused. >> john boehner also had a mild response through a spokesman. the speaker obviously believes the use of those words was inappropriate, as is trying to raise money off the situation. no calls for rush's firing or temporary suspension from the right wing. the republican candidates, they don't want to touch this one a. cnn reporter said when cnn tried to get mitt romney to comment on limbaugh this afternoon, he walked right by our camera. nbc news reported romney addressed limbaugh's remarks tonight at an event in ohio. romney said "it's not the language i would have used, i'm focusing on the issues i think are significant in the country today." rick santorum also had a weak response. >> well, he's being absurd, that is an entertainer, he can be
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absurd, he's taking the absurd sort of point of view how far do you go and look, he's in a very different business than i am. >> to diminish rush as an entertainer is absolute nonsense, no broadcaster has ever been so connected to the republican party as this broadcaster. there are almost connected at the hip. in 1995, limbaugh was made an honorary member of congress at a three-day orientation sponsored by the hair i damage foundation and empower america. >> the people that listen to ten hours of talk radio a week or more voted republican by a three to one margin, those are the people that elected the new congress. that's why this is the limbaugh congress. >> this is a man with more power than most politicians. but now he's portraying himself as the victim.
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>> i say this really with the absence of all ego, what this is about now is getting me. what this is -- this is about silencing me, removing my voice as a credible critic. >> the absence of all ego? the only thing that will silence rush limbaugh is if his syndicate tore loses money that might not even do it. clear channel communications did not respond to our request for comment tonight but sponsors have responded to his actions in a big way. sleep number, sleep train, quicken loans and cleveland cavaliers dropped their advertising from the rush limbaugh radio show. several other companies are keeping their distance saying they don't plan to advertise with limbaugh ever again and will review their current advertising strategies. i have been in the radio business for 30 years, i have managed stations and dealt with advertisers upset with program content. even my own. every station manager gets phone
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calls complaints, et cetera, but the social media is descending like never before. it is a post for everyone to see that just doesn't go away. it's far more damaging and effective than an irate phone dpraul call from a listener. it may be his waterloo, the fact that limbaugh has doubled down, tripled the talk in day three and shown no remorse underscores this is just who he is. ladies and gentlemen, we are talking about a major media figure in this country attacking a college student for speaking her mind on capitol hill, being called a slut and a prostitution. put pressure on the advertisers at the local stations to force the change in the market or let this conservative hate talk continue to have its place in the market. get your cell phones out, want
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to know what you think. tone's question, would you buy anything advertised on rush limbaugh program? text a for yes, b for no to 622639. go to, we'll bring you results later on. i want to say one thing, there has been a lot of twitter about ed schultz comments allow laura in grads ham. i apologized, i had restitution. i took a week suspension, i took myself off the air, i didn't double down on day two or three and continue on a tirade against a college student. a student that has no platform to defend herself. i think rush, you just need to man up, say you were wrong and be done with it. and if you don't, you deserve to lose all your advertisers because right now, every program director in this country i think is examining whether you're worth it or not anymore. we know the congress is. you may have your right wing nut jobs saying go rush go, and
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right wing bloggers behind you all the way. but we know what you're about. but now we really know what you are about you have no character. you can't f evess up and you maa mistake. an apology i found out goes a long way in america. joining me now is reverendal sharpton, host of politics nation here on msnbc. reverend, good to have you with us. >> thank you, ed. >> you've seen this before, you were involved on the sidelines of the don imus situation because a lot of people in your community in the black community came to you and said we can't put up with this. are there similarities here? >> yes, the similarities are that you're dealing with innocent women in the case of imus it was a basketball team of young women that were disparaged and here is a young college student. the thing that is most offensive here is what you just said. even imus tried to apologize
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after it was a foregone conclusion and advertisers withdrew. rush is not showing the decency that was displayed by imus, who we felt had come too little too late. he's doubling down, attacking the girl, implying her parents should be embarrassed, it's a direct sexual assault on her. this is not an implication using sexual terms for something political, he is downright denigrating her and making direct references like she has some sexual habits that is causing her position, which is not only untrue, it's absolutely intoler ra intolerable. i think the advertisers coming off is the first stage. clear chan nel will have to answer. civil rights groups will join women's group. this may be rush's undoing by
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rush. he can't make himself the victim. this young lady didn't do anything to him. even after he kept doubling down. he's the one that did the offense, he's the one on the assault, how can you turn around and call yourself a victim when you caused this whole scenario? >> in the last few years, reverend we have seen social media have a impact on change in business and society. is the social media finally, maybe in your opinion, going to hold rush limbaugh accountable? he's never had to do restitution for anything he's ever done on the air at all. >> well, no, i think he has not but i think the social media has the strength to do it, they're showing that and i think he's inciting it because he's almost daring us to come and get him, those decent americans saying this young lady doesn't deserve this, she is representative of all young ladies. i have two daughters, co he cou do this to my daughters. >> clear channel has been silent, we called them late this afternoon, we couldn't get a
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comment from them. >> i think their silence will be seen as consent, and it will be unclear channel. they have to deal with the fact that in the corporate community, they are risking any standing of credibility and i think the republican leaders that have come with weak responses have robbed from themselves the moral authority to say anything about anyone if all they're going to do is kind of sugar coat an answer and try to use that to attack democrats. >> here is another one. limbaugh says that this is a democratic plan to get him off the air waves, here it is. >> the democrats are desperate, and why they want people -- i do know why they want people to fear me. this is all they have got, to go out and try to discredit their critics. >> what is your response? >> the question is that he's calling this young lady a slut and prostitute. neither of which are true. a young lady that went before a
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congressional hearing, in the united states capitol to stand for a position that she believes in. this is not about democrat-republican. this is about whether we have a country people can use the public air waves to disparage and slander a young woman going before the congress of the united states. >> do you think this pressure will continue? >> this pressure must continue on him, and on the montana judge that i'm joining chairman clever with, saying you must be removed. saying the president's mother may have had sex with a dog and he could have come out barking, when you have doubling down on three days in a row this, poison has to stop somewhere and decent people of aparties and all genders have to stand together. >> al sharpton, great to have you with us. answer the question at the bottom of the screen, share thoughts on twitter. when we come back, krystal ball
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was also attacked by rush limbaugh when she ran for congress, she is organizing a boycott rush. she will join me along with karen finney. we know -- we now have the sound bite of mitt romney reacting to rush limbaugh's remarks, that is breaking now. later calls for resignation of a federal judge are mounting over his racist e-mail about president obama. congressman emanuel clever will join me on that, stay with us. ♪ there's a place i dream about ♪ ♪ where the sun never goes out ♪ ♪ and the sky is deep and blue ♪ ♪ won't you take me american flight 280 to miami is now ready for boarding. ♪ there with you fly without putting your life on pause. be yourself. nonstop. american airlines.
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welcome back do to the "the ed show." well have been talking about offensive remarks which cross as line that goes so far condemnation isn't enough. sponsors of rush limb wau are responding to demands he be dropped. response has not been what it should be from lawmakers because they are scared. his microphone is big. democrats have been clear on the matter. the democratic senatorial campaign committee has an on line petition to demand an
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apology from the broadcaster. the obama campaign senior strategist david axelrod says his vial, appalling assault on sandra fluke deserves universal condemnation. how can folks who call themselves leaders walk away? i'm joined by krystal ball and former communication director for the dnc, karen finney. krystal you were personally attack. >> some right wing bloggers issued party photos of me that went viral. of course this is a time honor tradition of a way of degrading women, painting them as shluts, rush limbaugh jumped on that attacking me.
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i have been there and i have seen what it's like to be raked through the coals the way sandra is, which is part of why i've had so much i think passion around this issue, because i don't want to see any woman have to go through what i went through appeared what sandra is going through now. >> if you run for congress or go testify on capitol hill you run the risk of being trashed by rush limbaugh. mitt romney was asked about the limbaugh remarks tonight, here's his response. >> it's not the language i would have used. i'm focusing on the issues i think are significance in the country today and that is why i'm here talking about jobs in ohio. >> karen finney this is a problem for the rnc, a problem for the republicans and the candidates like rick santorum and there you saw mitt romney saying it's not the language he would have used. what about that? >> you know, what a coward, my goodness. what this says to us is this is -- we are witnessing the
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absolute final straw in the takeover of the republican party by the right wing, that these guys are cowering in the corner, so afraid to say you can't talk about our daughters, sisters, mothers, grandchildren this way. that kind of language isn't acceptable. that sends a very clear message what i don't think the candid e candidates understands or rnc or other leaders in the republican party, women are paying attention. this is not just an isolated incident. this goes to the heart of the matter of the war on women and this sort of slow erosion in some ways of women's civil rights, our liberty being perceived and seen as equal human beings, instead of dee meaning in the way krystal was talking about. i remember when he did that to her it was disgusting. >> karen defended me, i will never forget that. that is right, that is why this has touched such a nerve of. we had one thing after another.
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i think on this issue rush did not realize what he was stepping in to and as you were pointing out he also doesn't understand that age of social media that we are living in. >> i want to talk about that. is the power of the social media a big threat to rush limbaugh right now, karen, what do you think? >> it is, but and i think -- i think ed there is two parts to this, right? absolutely we need to arm ourselves and go after rush limbaugh, that is unacceptable, bain capital also happens to own a portion of clear chan nel, don't forget that. at the same time, the second piece of this is and this goes to what reverend sharpton was talking about i'm in montgomery, alabama with congressman lewis retracing the steps of the civil rights movement when we are silent, when things like this go on, then we're saying it's okay. part of what we have to do, the men in our lives and women need to stand together and say this kind of language is not okay. it is not okay to have these
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kind of attitudes about women. i don't want young girls thinking this is an okay way for them to feel about themselves. i don't want the boys take they might date to think that is an acceptable way to treat women. >> on the campaign trail we've seen on numerous speeches that rick santorum has had his daughter up on the stage, i wonder how he would feel if a liberal broadcaster were to call his daughter a slut or prostitute or start asking questions about and make ag ser sh -- make ag ser shuns about her activity. limbaugh said the comments were absurd. >> calling a woman and slut and prostitute is not absurd, it's despicable, the fact santorum can't call it that is in itself despicable and deplorable. why are these guys so afraid of rush limbaugh? >> you called for a boycott. tell us about that. >> go ahead, karen.
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>> i was going to say again, these men are cowards, they are such cowards, why won't they stand up to rush limbaugh, ed you know this very well. lots of times this is not the first time that rush limbaugh has gone beyond the pale and they never speak out why? because they are afraid of him. that is why republican members are afraid they will be primaried by the tea party folks who listen to this guy. >> krystal, tells us about the boycott effort. >> this started someone suggested the idea of he's not going to shut up, we have to take away his power by going after the people who are sponsoring his programs, the companies that are sponsors. it started with twitter #boycott rush. we have we are not going to patronize any business that is sponsoring his program.
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welcome back do "the ed
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show" thanks for watching tonight. moments ago on his show, bill o'reilly made disparaging comments about sandra fluke. here they are. >> so let me get this straight, mrs. fluke, i'm asking there with due respect. you want me to give you my hard earned money so you can have sex? why then won't the government pay for my activities? for example, i played college football. the government should have bought my equipment. my helmet. shoulder pads, cleats if i don't have those things on the field i meet get hurt. surely the taxpayers should have ponied up for my football activities. >> actually, bill, you played football without a helmet. let's bring back krystal ball and karen finney. what is it about rush limbaugh and now bill o'reilly that don't understand women's health care? krystal? >> that is the question because the fact of the matter is over a
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million women use birth control for purely medical purposes, nothing to do with contraception and in fact if he had bothered to listen to sandra's testimony, you would know that what she was talking about was a friend who had to lose an ovary because she couldn't afford birth control and sure insurance wouldn't cover it. that is what this is about. the other piece i'll throw in, even if this was just about contraception, bill o'reilly and all the right wing guys are pro-life, against abortions as we all are. guess what the best way to prevent abortion? have access to contraception. >> the president called sandra fluke, that took the story to a new level. o'reilly seems to be defending and siding with rush limbaugh tonight. >> well, of course he is, what do cowards do, they stick together. it's important we remember, they
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are trying to reduce sandra and this story to this is about sexual activity and sexual habits when it's not. just in the same way this contraception and the accommodation the president made is not about religious freedom, about protecting the rights of the individual and the larger message here is the republican party is standing with the vatican and protecting the institution, what the president is trying to stand up for, what we're talking about protect the rights of the individuals of every individual, the woman who would be affected by this. just as we're talk about sandra as a person, not as some kind of sex object. >> i could make a point what pre tip take itted the year of the woman, clarence grilling of anita hill.
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we could have a similar dynamic at the ballot box. >> but o'reilly, this what is gets me about o'reilly. i thought he was smarter than limbaugh, maybe not. >> no, come on, ed! one thing to krystal's point, politically, we do have a record number of great women candidates running this time, remember that, more women than men vote and i promised you this ed, we will remember all of this, and democrats will use this and remind american women who is on their side. >> you think women are going to remember mitt romney's saying it's not the language he would have used. they will remember rick santorum said it was absurd and hinted it was all about entertainment. and of course the slow response from the speaker of the house, john boehner, after a letter was sent to him by other congressional members asking for them to condemn it. no one on the republican party has fully condemned what
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limbaugh has done and now you've got bill o'reilly giving him cover. i want to go back to the point they make about how bill o'reilly thinks his tax dollars will pay for her sex. address that. >> that is ludicrous. that is trying to demean her, this has to do with our values as a country. we say that we believe that people deserve access to basic health care, contraception is part of basic health care. that is what this is about. and that is why, ed, it's important we talk about this stuff and don't just -- it's important to go after limbaugh and call out bill o'reilly but important we make it clear what they are trying to make it about, a sex act, is not what this is about. this is basic health care for women. >> yep, and this is
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slut-shaming. plain and simple. same what they did to anita hill, same as what they did to the women who came out and accused herman cain, same tom janice hahn when they ran ads against her, the same thing time and time again. >> krystal ball, karen finney, thanks for staying with us tonight. we'll have more on the right wing noise machine rallying around rush limbaugh coming up. this is "the ed show," stay with us. [ woman ] my boyfriend and i were going on vacation, so i used my citi thank you card to pick up some accessories. a new belt. some nylons. and what girl wouldn't need new shoes? we talked about getting a diamond. but with all the thank you points i've been earning... ♪ ...i flew us to the rock i really had in mind. ♪ [ male announcer ] the citi thank you card. earn points you can use for travel on any airline, with no blackout dates. [♪...]
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while you were sleeping, rush limbaugh was wide awake because the bomb squad showed up at his house. suspicious package outside his home. one of his listener sent him a package. he apologized. >> that was the big headline on fox news. the right wing noise machine
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managed to avoid his comments about sandra fluke, that is until the public's outrage got too big to ignore. megan kelly did not play his offensive audio but had plenty to say about fluke's congressional testimony. >> what she testified to, and the manner which she testified to it caused a very big backlash. not just about the coverage for contraception, but whether the testimony bespoke of an entitlement culture. >> taking a page out of darrell issa's play book, eric boehlert questioned the credibility. >> i want to know bob's opinion on the 30-year-old georgetown lawyer. seems like a plant to me. doesn't seem like she will have a hard time finding contraceptiv contraceptives. she was actually, she went to georgetown with the express purpose of exposing an issue an
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ideological issue of her. >> others attacked sandra fluke i wonder how much the average law student spends a month on coffee a month. you know the fancy kind with soy milk and junk? kirsten powers, so called democratic political analyst tweeted this, also i thought the feminist said being a slut was a good thing. let's turn to eric boehlert, also mike papantonio, host of the "ring of fire" radio show. good to have you with us. eric, limbaugh put fox news in a tough spot, maybe not now that bill o'reilly came out in' denies of limbaugh and attack on sandra fluke. why are so quiet about something that has been so offensive and
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universe s rejected? >> they will do opposition research and look in her past. they are all on the same pain. we are righting a right wing media nervous breakdown today. they have completely lost any sort of moral compass. this has been going on three days. nine hours. three days of rush limbaugh's show he denigrated a college student. fox news and rush are on the same page, part of the hate machine and hate movement, they will back him up. a couple people on the so-called sirius fox show did criticize but the opinion shows doubled down and attacked the victim. >> mike papantonio, one of the finest attorneys in america, does she have a case here at all? >> you need more facts on this one, ed. -- there are issues that could
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be raised. would it stand past a summary judgment? you never know until you take discovery. new york times is a tough case to overcome. but at any rate it's a tough call. but as i watched this develop, they are proud of rush, ed. they are proud -- they were proud when he laughed at the joke, i don't know if you remember the case, eric, they laughed at his jokes when he was talking about a rape case, he took the story of a rape case and played it for his viewers, it was a court case that was taking place, they had a yuk yuk moment, all the people on the right laughed with him. it's one brain sin dryndromsynd. he refers to women as terrorists organization, ugly dogs. one of the things he used to do is play a song on the air, you might remember this, called "born a woman" almost became his
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theme song, the idea if you're born a woman you should be under the thumb of a man. >> mike, is it catching up with him? he's never been brought down before, is this it? >> i think there is enough momentum because of the fact that 90% of all purchases in america, ed, are made by women. they are the ones who buy real estate, they buy cars, something like 65% of them buy automobiles, they are the people who spend money. i don't care if you're an affiliate, advertiser, i don't care what your role is, you can't ignore the impact, look, you just saw krystal ball and karen finney, they are fired up about this like everybody who is going after him right now. he may be can weather it, l will be ulcers developed over this story. >> eric, you folks have documented everything limbaugh has ever done, is this the worst? >> it's top five.
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>> what is number one? >> good question. he went after autism a year or two ago, completely off the range. this is really bad because he went back two, three times. he's not going after a columnist or senator or presidential candidate. he's going after a college student. the republican hearing wouldn't even allow a woman, we have a woman come forward and her reward is being called a slut and prostitute and he went after her parents, this is insane. >> if you run for office, or you go testify on capitol hill and are a woman and say something the republicans don't like they have their tool to take care of you. >> he has lost more advertisers in the last two days.
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he has so many stations, wasn't like glenn beck. >> this is the one thing about ownership, is that clear channel owns the stations that limbaugh is on. >> some of them. >> enough of them. they mandate you are going to carry limbaugh's program, i know, i went through that in fargo, we were forced to carry his program after having live and local around the clock for many years. so, mike, what do you make of clear channel not responding to any comment. do they think it will blow over? >> they are hoping it will. this isn't the kind of thing that blows over. this will happen again. this is going to happen again, this is a man who has so many doubts about his own virility, masculinity it manifests by attacking women. >> eric, mike papantonio, great to have you with us tonight. appreciate it so much.
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with the latest. >> reporter: good evening, ed. an amazing show of force from the tornadoes, incredibly strong we heard stories of asphalt ripped up in southern portions of indiana. debris blowing 50 miles away in cincinnati from these storms. we still have a tornado threat as we go throughout the late night hours here and after we go past midnight but the tornado threat will slowly diminish as we go throughout the evening. areas of concern are switching moreorless toward areas of eastern alabama, northern georgia, up through the mountains of appalachians. big cities out of the woods. amazing number of severe weather reports. 60 to 80 tornado reports. a lot of damaging hail. center over kentucky, southern indiana and southern ohio, that writes we want to bring you pictures. marysville area, town wiped off the map, 1900 people lived there, a lot of them will struggle and wander around trying to figure out how they will rebuild their town.
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also high schools were hit in the region, medical center, they will have a lot of clean-up to do through the weekend. will take a long time, ed, before they put their lives back together. areas of kentucky, west liberty, fatalities there and devastation. back to you. bill karins, nbc meterologist thanks for the update. next, the montana judge who sent out a racist e-mail is apologizing to the president. i'll ask emanual clever if more should be done, stay tuned. you know when i grow up,
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obama and today there are more calls for his resignation. yesterday, the judge apologized to anyone who he may have offended. but that obviously wasn't going to cut it. so today, chief u.s. district judge richard cebull sent an apology to the president. here what is he was apologizing for. an e-mail he forwarded saying "a little boy said to his mother, mommy, how come i'm black and you're it when? his mother replied, don't even go there, barack, from what i can remember, about that party, you're lucky you don't bark" the judge didn't know what else he could do. well, he could resign. former senator john meckler and civil rights groups have called for his resignation. i'm joined by emanuel cleaver, the chairman of the congressional black caucus, thank you for your time. >> good to be with you.
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>> is an apology enough? what do you make of the situation right now? >> absolutely not. an apology is not enough. the question is for what is he apologizing? is he apologizing because it was made public or apologizing because the inner parts of who is being revealed. this man is a federal judge, a u.s. district court judge and the chief justice, and i don't think that this man has expressed the -- in what he's saying in the joke, the kind of temperament that a federal judge needs to have. any minority whoever appears before this judge would not believe that they are going to get a fair shake and that is why the asian pacific caucus, gonzales of the hispanic congressional caucus and myself as the cbc chair all joined together and said this man needs to go. now, at the minimum, he should be brought before the judiciary
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committee because he asked for a review by his colleagues, but that is nothing. the only way a federal judge can be removed is by the congress of the united states. he must be impeached and i think this man needs to be held accountable in front of the court of united states, the congress of the united states. the question is not whether judge cebull has foul racial opinions, but whether or not they have him. and by that i mean if what he said and i believe that he meant what he said in the joke, that that's what he is, then this man is not fit to be on the court of the united states of america. >> the question begs if someone were to go in the courtroom with a barack obama tee shirt on and stand in front of this judge, could he objectively do what he has to do and file the guidelines of the law without having his personal beliefs get involved, that is the gist of it for you?
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>> that is the issue. i think if a man stood before him who had driven on a sidewalk or something, he would probably get the electric chair. >> congressman what does it take to get him in front of the house judiciary committee? >> well, the chair of the house judiciary committee would have to ask him to come and of course if he doesn't, the judiciary committee is one of the house committees that does in fact have subpoena powers. and let me just tell you if i were the chairman of that committee i don't care if that was a democrat, an african american, republican, to say -- to send that joke out as he did means there is something wrong, this man does not need to be on the court of the united states, and every person whoever appeared before him who was not like him might think about making some kind of call for review. >>


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