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it is how you could show people that you're really mad even if your anger is irrational because still pretty much did the right thing but that's just my opinion . hello and welcome to sophie and kerr i am sophie shevardnadze and today we're looking at friend's son its new leading figures after we are said the margins of the politics of then came south in a presidential race last year this woman is definitely gaining a stronger footing with her people and her ideas are quite controversial. once a political outsider now breathing down the neck of the establishment challenging
patriarchy in politics the popularity rising as austerity and joblessness battle europe. multiculturalism graveyard where social unrest is rife could she lead the way she have the strength to save the sinking ship to return from simple pleasure. from conflicts in colonialism culture shock and brussels bankruptcy. to the leading woman in french politics. going to be dealt with and the european parliament committee almost unanimously voted to lift your immunity because of alleged racist statements you made three years ago why now and why is to parliament so united in this question. home from going to the us the truth is that censorship reigns in france and we are hunted down in all circumstances because we are. expressed an opinion that is
different from the one way track of thinking developed by the european union and also by the socialist party and the right wing parties in france have been hunted down for saying i think it's not normal that prayers should be allowed to take place right in the middle of the street blocking traffic it was a territorial occupation that is unacceptable it's the law and get i'm being hunted down for having said this it's not a big deal it's a source of pride for me to be hunted down by the system. more than. do you feel less secure because of that nor should resign but most no i don't feel any less safe but still it shows that although france bends a lot of time preaching freedom to the entire world it should probably deal with its own issues for both. we said to sit mean that your attempt to fight that you system from within as you said you were doing has failed in the. you know i don't think so i think next year's european elections are going to be
a huge up people because patriotic parties like my own are growing in popularity in all countries across europe all peoples are starting to reject the european union which is a deeply undemocratic system that is failed and i think the majority in the european parliament can change next year and it's true that it will be a change in direction which i think will be a good thing if you don't look so your own popularity continues to grow i mean i grew up in paris and i remember when i was a child the national front was really a marginal party that didn't have much support and now it really has become they think france is third biggest party why do you think you've become so popular now. the third maybe even the second maybe even when the european elections come around the number one party that i think we're really moving towards taking power that's what i want you know i'm not here is a bystander i'm here to come into power and apply the idea. is that are mine and i
can see are already being applied in other countries around the world i think it's just a matter of it all coming together since a lot of french people are starting to realize that everything's a national front predicted came true on the subject of the risks with immigration the economic model that has been imported from and imposed by the united states meaning the older a liberal model which destroys economies and denies the people the riches that they have and selves have created and denies nations their sovereignty their you are and so consequently with each passing day realizing the national front predictions were correct more and more french people are taking an interest in the solutions used and hearing to the solutions we also. could. well having said that your opponents say oh my look then use popular now because of the european union's problems not because she's actually contributes to anything positive any positive change in france we may be sure yes of course but that's not true and they
know that because of partial legislative election we've just passed one of the national front came second so we're not just a protest party against the establishment anymore where a real party of people who vote for the national front so that we apply our ideas people couldn't so that we win elections not just to show discontent or despair as our political opponents would have it. it's pretty going to run for president in the next election. it will. yes well i mean if the board if first of all if the national front party members trust me enough to invest in me as a presidential candidate. and want to know for sure. and i think that we're going to take our i think we'll make it in the next ten years which means that might be in two thousand and seventeen or it might be the next. time. the system thought up
by the union for a popular movement the socialist party established system is clearly collapsing and i spent my whole life working on what happened the next day by which i mean on rebuilding a system that is respectful of democracy respectful of justice. all of these often to which all means the freedom of the people. on the envelope and likes to say that things are go and get that special and then under sarkozy because things back then were so bad that he can only make a bit of a progress. mother. the reality is that things are getting worse and worse and these two movements managed to turn one of the world's richest countries to two friends into a bankrupt country with a rocketing unemployment rate with poverty that continues to rise and a real feeling of despair but with
a culture that is collapsing it's important to talk about this in life it's not just the material aspect there's also a feeling of belonging to a people a desire to defend one's culture and identity and identity that is so respected across the world everywhere except by the french elite. says so. so you say friends would be much better off without the european union i said the latest survey and it's true that sixty percent of french people think that e.u. is heading in the wrong direction but only thirty four will vote for france's exit from the e.u. what do you read in this figures who use to do that but. well first you need to understand that there is no debate in france defending the european union and the euro the single currency that was imposed on us almost feels like the bending of religion it means there's no exchange of arguments and to be against the euro. sort
of blasphemy i'm asking for a referendum because surveys are great but i remember when we were asked our thoughts on the european constitution and the surveys said that a vast majority of the french people were for this constitution actually thirty five percent voted against it so we need to organize the debate we need a referendum and to ask the french what they think about throwing open the borders with shotguns about this currency that destroyed our economy about european directives taking presidents over our own constitution which is a manifestation of the sovereign people these are real questions that have not yet been asking friends and i'm convinced that if they have been asked the french would make the decision to take back their freedom. it seems a ploy imagine you're the president you have the referendum and it turns out that most french people want to stay in the european union would you change your policy an exit interview with the union would. you know. in those conditions i
would try to negotiate you know i am infinitely respectful of the desires of the people i think the only solid ground here is the people consequently if i hold a referendum of the people don't follow me then of course i'll submit to the people's decision but i would try to defend france's interests within the e.u. because today france is interests are not being looked after we submit to the demands of germany a country that defends its own interests we can't begrudge them but our interests and there is are contradictory. to what you still like french to leave shang get close to change and. yes yes of course of course but i think the number one right for a country is the right to decide who can enter i remain on your territory and yet today we have no borders we are subject to absolutely massive levels of immigration this which is utterly destructive including the national cohesion and our ability to live side by side. the immigration that comes from africa. from north africa
it's been going on for quite a long time but now it's how can i put it accompanied by a new type of mass immigration which is immigration by the roma coming from eastern europe we now need to be reasonable and get our borders back to say means police borders and check points like before will come of all we would like before yes yes i think freedom for people comes from control over its borders not just in terms of human traffic by the way but also in terms of capital flow and also products were at a hotel full of open doors where everybody can come in and do whatever he likes sell whatever he likes there you go i think preserving and protecting france's interests begins with control it doesn't mean we close the borders it means we control the borders we open them if we want to open them and we close them if we want to close them and in that way we can protect the economy and the well being of our country. so i was thinking even if the european community or the e.u.
cease to exist globalization is something much bigger and deeper and wider than us it's an irreversible persis so it isn't like they going against the flow things with this whole border thing and then it completely cools no no i don't agree that globalization is a fact but nobody ever said it was something we couldn't monitor all the countries in the world apart from the e.u. defend themselves against globalization saw they try to keep it in check they control it they put voters on imports they put customs duties on things to defend their products and the economic sectors that are essential to their independence are the only ones who don't do it and so consequently it's not about denying that globalization is happening it's about getting france into a position where it can defend itself against globalization and to set some playing rules there's not a single game in the world that doesn't have rules and today globalization in the e.u. is completely directly related and i mean that we see the consequences are a catastrophic. consequences. that was not
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to take three. three. three. three. three. three balls video for your media project free radio down to r t dot com. welcome back to sophie and call we're talking to maggie and of ben france's top woman in politics immigration both legal and illegal stares a lot of debate and zero s. multicultural approach is failing that either ben has her own vision of how to make
things better. well this is my principle and i want to radically change the immigration policy in france you could mean i want to suppress the jew so he's i believe that nationality should be inherited or deserved so we don't automatically become french just like that first that comes first second i would implement a small immigration deterrent because france grants a series of social aids that are detrimental to its own citizens means that today there are even illegal immigrants who benefit from larger social aid that some french citizens can't obtain all of this draws people in so if we get rid of what i call the immigration magnets and then in a logical and humane way tell people you're here legally there's no problem you belong here and friends on the contrary if you've been unemployed for six months it's because there's. no work for us and therefore we're forced to ask you to
return to your own country so honestly that's on the whole if you will a sensible reasonable plan that is already used in several countries around the world except here in france where for ideological reasons if you will we are subjected ourselves to massive immigration for over thirty years of course you know the consequences of that. i understand that you would not let more rain what would you do with a immigrants that are already in france put them on a plane. this is simple so if they're here legally and they have a child then there's no problem to come public well there's no issue in particular . however if they're unemployed we'll just tell them look here we can no longer meet your needs there are no job prospects here for you and we have implemented the national priority policy of the national priority policy is meant to give priority to french nationals of the same skill taxes positions and came housing in france
this is what i call a small deterrent from the moment immigrants have no further interest in coming to france then they'll stop coming if they. see any question is also a huge issue in russia we talk about all the time when we say we have to have more restrictions to make when there's a question who would work in places at very low salaries that russians would never want to work at same thing in france no less. yes i understand perfectly because it's a measure that we've been using since the one nine hundred seventy s. but that was imposed by big companies and keep the real question is why is there no one willing to work in these places is it because they're underpaid and given the difficulty of these jobs their salary should be higher than those that are given today kids mostly due to the decline of the west where intellectuals have been encouraged. more than laborers and working with your hands is seen as
something that's degraded. i don't believe that i think that manual labor should be valued once again because we need a balance between manual and intellectual work and i'm convinced that if we hadn't given in to the demands of these large companies which always seek to keep lowering salaries then there would have been russians in russia and french people in france willing to accept jobs known to be harder but for which the salary is more than enough to compensate. is integration for huge more of a cultural or economic issue they do both do both because the both the importance of immigration its brutal paula to do this all to core of the history of immigration that it's brought to france ten million immigrants in thirty years now remember we have a population of sixty five million which is considerable however we have no jobs
for them so these people that arrive can't work since there isn't and this happens because their people are not products so they come with their culture their religion their traditions and customs and set of telling them when in rome do as the romans do meaning when in france like the french our government one after another has told them they are just as you are it's your right it's your human right instead of imposing our culture on to them so there is a shock for the force and at some point a conflict because the french want to preserve their way of life if they want to and don't want to adopt the cultures traditions and customs of these foreigners. and then there's a serious economic crisis in france at the moment you've often said that this stereotype measures that the only worsens things that wasn't france's economy drowning even before this measures were. put into place and doesn't france have one
hundred percent of french to pay anyway he can if you. know me. know what i'm saying is that it would be austerity measures are a remedy that actually kills the patient who said without the approval of the developer when they don't there you go it's like that the patient is sick and we're about to give him a fatal remedy or in a way bleed him. but it's a major error because all the measures we take now for the right are meant to raise taxes and lower earnings to clean. all of this slows down the economy more taxes constrict the economy and so there is less development less public revenue for the state higher deficits and higher debt the complexion of the good in
me don't come one quarter and so we come full circle with more taxes don't produce is a vicious cycle that will and by actively ruining the french economy. if you are poor. minister is tearing the measure is just not the only thing annoying to french hundreds of thousands of people took to the streets to protest against a low pass by the parliament allowing same sex marriages and the adoption of children by homosexuals couples from below is now passed it has come into force in the protests are over is that it. can this. well no it hasn't completely calm down now the french nation must vote better people into office people who have taken a vow to review that law and gay marriage adoption or in the case of the us. we can see all the cynicism of the french right dave pro. and made big
speeches when the law was voted on and they didn't do much to change it i think that if it's the law of the people who don't they do then we should go back over that law and that's something that i have promised to do so if your eleven is pressed and you would change that of course i would go back on that authorization sample it seems also to be the trend here in russia the russian parliament is passing a law not only forbidding gay couples from adopting children but also a law against gay propaganda whatever that means because i'm not sure how are you going to defend both the traditional values and the rights of the gay people but we do listen also we're going in the right direction this means that intimacy should remain intimate person sexual life and choice belong in this era of intimacy . however the fact that they should be the subject of a propaganda campaign makes no sense i mean pertains to intimacy
individuals and what happens in their homes people are free to do what they want morally as long as it doesn't contradict the law but to publicize it in schools as is the case in france gender theory comes straight from the united states as many questionable things do in any case this today the main teacher syndicate is insists that we teach children six a book called dad was addressed but honestly we can see parents asking themselves why does this absurdity were so let's review everything that pertains to the freedom of morals sexuality and therefore in private life you think it's none of the public's concerns seem like that it's simple right and in this way everybody can live happily. go quiet who is evil who is can no good a gay man. and who is discreet about his sexuality be part of your cabinet. go
to told that is the case i have homosexuals all around me and poses no problem for me but they don't make a show of their sexuality or any propaganda and they don't try to convince anyone because they are aware and legitimately so know that all this pertains to a person's private and intimate life and not to political life. but they've pretty . well known that there's a lot of discussion about international intervention into local conflicts expressed support for mali interventional well saying that libya has been a catastrophe and now we may be looking in some sort of intervention in syria how do you judge which intervention in which country is justified or not. but it's still the situation is very straightforward in mali first of all there's been cooperation between france and mali for many years now and it's the legitimate
government in mali that asked us to intervene since faced with the rising power of this law miss terrorist groups that were aggressive and even assassinating people. consequently in those conditions we find ourselves in a situation that we know from before where a friendly country to come and help because it's the subject of aggression right so we went to help. what is incoherent in the behavior of french leaders is that they fight the islamicist in mali but support them in libya and in syria and that's what's completely incoherent and i'm completely cohere i consider the danger of islamic fundamentalists absolutely terrifying and i think that yet again we have to tell a terrorism in the twenty first century there was communism and naziism in the twentieth century and now there is islamism and globalism that's the to tell it to terry muslim of religion. on one hand and of trade on the other and so i buy it but i
fight it everywhere in mali in libya in syria and i know you don't get out alarmed and cameron are presenting a united front against a use desire to stop arms getting to the rebels in syria is that a step towards intervention and what would the consequences be for france with no one but one of his own something no i don't think it's a step towards intervention for a simple reason actually a good bunch of leaders did such a bad job that i don't even think the french army has the capacity to intervene alone particularly in libya. especially since they've just intervened alone in mali in conditions that were already technically difficult to get and france only intervened in libya because the us gave support in the form of infrastructure. which is a shame by the way and we need to change that and so i don't think that there will be an intervention but i still think that bunch of leaders are under the influence of qatar and saudi arabia who are pulling the strings far behind the scenes and who
are providing weapons and assisting islamic fundamentalists across the world. and we must announce that which is what i'm trying to do in my own country you say defend the. right so that was not in a band way to her vision of france this is saying to you for being with us and i will see you next time. they actually what happened that i don't know but a woman killed. piers later is when i got arrested for. her crime or did not do. we have numerous cases where police officers lie about polygraph
results. innocent people to confess to police officers don't beat people anymore i mean it just doesn't happen really. in the course of interrogation why because there's been this said lightman no because the psychological techniques are more effective in obtaining confessions than physical abuse and they were they could get what they wanted they can say what they wanted and there was no evidence of what they did or what they said. but if your whole life endangered all the face i think you know.
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