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pretty much a dirty word generally nationalist like their culture and the people who are part of it but if you look at migration trends within the e.u. we see that the slavic part of it is flooding western europe looking for work i have many relatives from the slavic part of the e.u. and almost all of them have to work abroad and might so nice to be able to work in europe but the reality is that you koreans will probably be paid even less than bulgarians rumanians to clean toilets in london ukrainian nationalists don't have to like russia or join the customs union or join any bloc of countries but advocating a future for themselves the e.u. seems absolutely backwards at least to me but that's just my opinion. hello and welcome to worlds apart we here of israel has used the believe tour and
rhetoric over tammy's to justify its own military actions a policy that was recently dealt a blow when iran switch from accusations to negotiations securing a lot of market nuclear deal isn't it time for hamas and other sworn enemy of israel to do the same in hopes of kicking these really palestinian conflict out of its right well to discuss that i'm now joined by the spokeswoman of the palestinian government in gaza. miss almost all of me really appreciate you being here on the show i know that you were appointed as the first female spokesperson for the palestinian government in gaza just a few months ago as part of the major p.r. make over how much do you see your gender played into that decision when actually it's a really positive. step. forward the pile of sunni. in issues and for
the government itself in this position we are trying to send a message from the grand of gaza from the reality and the facts which bring on the people and the issues and in what's going on. in media and foreign media in general now before we started this program you made a point that you represent not the hammers but the palestinian government which is primarily now comprised of hamas representatives and when people in europe or the united states think about gaza and when they think about how as they usually have this image of a scary looking bearded man with rifle sole one that negative stereotype is countered by somebody like you are a young agitated independent woman i think that certainly helps to challenge the the western narrative not only about gaza but also about how much as a terrorist organization isn't that ultimately the main part of your job to
challenge that negative image associated with the gaza strip and associated with hamas well actually yes we are front of it and there is really media and approach cast which opposite in this truth which not telling the people and the facts we do care about about what's going on from all kind of on proficient on a more a legal way for the palestinian issues and people as well and to to show the opposite actually i'm here to show the people not. the real face of the palestinian for the refugees for the new military for the human language which we all share to govern what is really doing it's an act collective punishment for all the people it's not just for hamas a government of the palestinian government to gaza so it's very clear that we are here to speak. by our sounds our voices of faces to the piece are not all when you
say we i gather that you speak not only on your own personal behalf i know that your the team that you work with is comprised of fairly young individuals people who are good english speakers who actually use social media like twitter or facebook so it really seems that the palestinian government in gaza is now taking a lot of effort to change the way it communicates with the world and in particular with the west but while the means of that communication has changed the rhetoric still stayed the same many of the representatives of the government do not distinguish between jews and zionists for example it is still unclear what is the position of the hamas led government on the two state solution within the nine hundred sixty seven borders so don't you think that it is now time
to change not only the means of communication but possibly the tone of that communication and maybe even the macit will if we're we going to talk about changes . from the israeli side the end of the shin and the changes of going and allowing the peace lay upon this area of the humanity needs for the palestinian people actually yes we do believe that speech is needed to change. one side one way for the human it's a languages when we talk about gaza it's not the same way of feeling and presenting the issue when you are there with the life knaves and when you hear with under the reality of suffering actually to make sure of your professional way of presenting and sending this message you need to understand the. where we're are
living here on the crisis and humanitarian crisis so it's different it's complicated i sit in the air here your passion and i've been to gaza i have seen people suffering there but my point is that israeli policies have been very very controversial to say the least but you know blaming israel has been a preferred route for many many years if not decades and this is what people in gaza did for many years years and this is what it's actually yeah absolutely by blaming here i'm not here to judge i'm talking about i'm talking about riots i'm talking about a human being one point a million guns and lots of them and with bank drizzling and full to a land i'm talking about even in syria lebanon refugees and camps i'm talking about a palestinian all over the word this is something that the world has known about for many decades and unfortunately didn't take much action to correct my point is
though a little bit different look at the iranian experience iranians just had elections earlier this year and the basic tenets of the rain and theocracy haven't really changed the way israel or the world treat iran didn't change that much but that little change of tone from. two rowhani already produced a major consequence a major breakthrough in the talks and that breakthrough may actually lead to some ease of sanctions and improvements in the lives of the iranian people simply got gazans could also benefit from having some relief in the lives that after having suffered for that long so do you think that you as a representative of the gazan government in general could achieve that easing off live for the palestinian people who way they communicate through the way. they
present themselves to do wall to community need we need respectful of from order kind of governments. to recognize this government which recollected a from the people actually and presented it from the palestinian people themselves respect our choices respect our i would believes our needs our rights our rights first and then we cannot come back and the kind of situation between a. situation in gaza all the respect and the the word some countries actually it's very sensitive situation here in gaza under a very special conditions and situations and cases and also we cannot go around with the with the crisis here in gaza until this pressure going on the palestinian government in gaza from the follow it from that american policy analyst will from the israeli convention and some of the countries around and
this is all the responsible. of them to to listen this time and to respect the. lives of people here we do want to take steps sexually and of course and immediately this is what honey has said in the last speech that we are here to be the che nation one nation one power one hand against it to end it so we cannot talk about movement of the. kind of siege on gaza and will be the. real movement to from the people around the word please understand me correctly i am not putting all the blame on gaza in the slightest but my point again is a little bit yes i think. these really prime minister if you look at his actions recently he did everything in his power to sabotage the rainin deal for example and many come. taters concluded that he actually needs to have iran as an enemy to
justify his own very controversial policy so my question to you is whether you think the same could be applied to the palestinian government in gaza to hamas that israeli authorities need those somewhat threatening somewhat aggressive sometimes belligerent statements coming from hamas representatives or the representatives of the palestinian government to justify what they've been doing for many many decades should you continue giving them these fiery rhetoric when some would argue this is all they need to justify all the very aggressive actions well actually the government and also resistance movements in gaza policy to this of defending and actually we cannot to believe and trust this kind of movement from it in your home we are never. ways of agreement to from him and
i do not have much information to give you this issue i do believe that under this very heated tarion a crisis in gaza and also more of a settlement in the photo. bank specially we cannot talk about andy with this man and what will we describe him as a criminal man ok can i draw your attention to some of the statements that was made by the leaders of your government last year how much prime minister ismail funny told media that he actually very strongly disagrees with anti semitic slogans he said that hamas quote doesn't target jews and this was a statement that was welcomed in many capitals around the world and yet a couple of months later and the other high ranking government of official the deputy speaker of the parliament ahmad barr said the following following in.
sermons which was aired on alexa t.v. he actually called on a lot to destroy the jews and their supporters and he sat quote all calmed down one by one killed them all without leaving a single one i wonder if you can really do your job as a communicator as this new face of the palestinian people effectively when you when you have to deal with very diverse statements like that because you know one of them communicates one mass age but another one totally undermines the kind of job that you said you were doing what i can say about that yet is still a governmental speeches for the people here ignore so they're the most people who can understand the conditions much better than people and i do present. the issues here in gaza i recognize on those issues especially for other
speeches on this side i have no comment miss amabel we have to take a short break now but when we come back the number of rockets fired from gaza into israel has drawn by over ninety percent this year isn't these different side of a real peace process taking place that's coming up in a few moments while the part. this is the place that has been consecrated to god for almost a thousand years people came here twenty some years ago the established mystic life on this island. and people feel the love of christ working. people so you can belong. but something
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r t r two dot com. welcome back to worlds apart to riyadh discussing the situation in the gaza strip with the spokeswoman of the palestinian government in gaza. compared to the rest of the middle is the situation in the gaza strip has been relatively peaceful this year and even israeli generals have noted that the number of rockets and mortar shells fired from gaza into israel has significantly decreased which is a very unusual statement for them to do they actually said that that decrease was from around one thousand rockets last year to fewer than forty rockets so far this
year and i wonder if that is part of a cordon aided strategy by the government to actually reduce. the number of rockets reduce the violence or it just happened to be this way but actually we do not. you know care much about the numbers about. even the movement they are working on and this is defending which is totally right the palace defended to be ready to protect our children and island but we totally know that this is defending with all the ranks we believe in but we are not talking about aggression or violence we actually are talking about what seems to be the palestinian authority is taking the first steps to ease that confrontation and i wonder if that is indeed. viewed from where you are that the palestinian government is trying to minimize the levels of aggression between the two sides.
to true to face reality and to look to the ground. to talk about the humanitarian crisis actually. giving up lots of. singles especially. children and so we do talk about allowing that if tricity to allowing the live stream to to the people and an actual life with independence freedom and justice would you call even the palestinian authority. with the palace in government here in gaza to stand for and one in front of a sion and we hold that to deal with this issue and to be inside without telling pressures from outside i'm not sure i understood you correctly but just to clarify
it there have been some reports also in the media that not only the level of weiland across the border has decreased by the hamas led government has been taking measures to step up policing of the territory and prevent other militant groups like for example islamic jihad from firing rockets into israel could you confirm or deny that when i actually believe in our rights coming back to talk always i'm doing all used to talk in this. subject of the riots and the rights and the right this is our right to late to talk in that if we want to talk we'll talk about how much we are in front of up retired colonial settlement in israel we would talk about that much of prisoners and men stripped of detention of all the prisoners in the israeli jails we talk about to pray sions violation preaching against humanity
but we all and we all and. actually we cannot talk about it and it blames any compliment resistance movement we are here to develop those movements we're here to return to one month's a from those movements we are here. to stop the little i'm not disputing the rights of the palestinians to defend themselves but i think you would also agree with me that it is the right of the palestinian people to leave normally like air people in any other countries and one a you can just view that one of the major factors contributing to the blockade of gaza is the decision by hamas government to continue or to love our nation actually well i don't want to go in circles because you know this is this has been the main mode of discussing these really palestinian conflict for many many decades i'm much more interested in looking at possible solutions to that and
my question to you is that i mean in the first part we were talking about a new kind of people coming to represent the face of the palestinian government people like yourself now there are also signs that the situation on the ground may be calming a little bit the the level of violence has subsided so it seems like a real momentum to actually justify breaking of this siege but you seem to be read to rating the same type of masses that we heard from hamas government for many many many years and that is again putting the blame onto israel reach in reach you may be totally justified but what i'm asking you is whether you see any ways of breaking out of this rat in which your people have been for so many decades maybe it's worth not only changing again the means of communication or
people who do the communication but actually what you communicate to the world well i told. except humanity language communicate i told you i have this believe and the people respect to would us and to understand even the right of defending the right of is standing by step firstness of the people it's not easy to talk about a very complicated situation in gaza strip they have all the right to say yes the two to live normal and to have the needs of their lives and to have a proper equipments and health care and education and so we can vote and restrictions and everything actually a book we have no other choice we have all the pressure from not just one side from more than one side actually and this is how the issue going much more difficult we cannot just say one side or one face we have to we have to solve this we have to
call the international community to call the government to stand and the rights of the people in palestine you say about the palestinians and the gazans in particular facing pressure from multiple sides i assume you are also talking about the station and the destruction of smuggling tunnels that used to provide up to thirty percent of goods for these trips population then now closed as far as i understand that you've been talking about that they can all make situation in gaza is pretty difficult at the moment and obviously the gas and people in the past faced enormous economic hardship but i wonder compared to previous years how dramatic situation really is at the moment well actually. we face a new face a new back situation going. government and.
students universities and and houses. even hospitals so it's going difficult of the closed channels more than five percent. in gaza and we really suffer from lack of fuel and electricity cut towers and we really want to be and the government's attention to that we cannot to talk about any solution if the pressure goes on and continuous ok and you made a point earlier that you don't represent hamas but let me ask you a question about that i heard that because of these economic difficulties that you just mentioned enormous economic difficulties for the first time in her masses history movement actually cancelled any celebrations time to the year anniversary of the twenty sixth anniversary does it mean. now
accept its own responsibility for gas economic difficulties this fact of canceling celebrations doesn't mean that. may also consider its own policies in a different light also a parade of them they went already. members on the street to remind people of their. fastness to thank them of their strong. on the both. two thousand and twelve november last one and they already went to north for this and actually. knew the new heaven for that it's going to go to the humanitarian projects and needs for the poor people in gaza and to be off specially in. the whole world knows that much of the suffering that the palestinian people have incurred so far has been
very unfair. let me ask you straight i mean if we talked about the responsibility of the world we talked about israel but do you see the movement the hamas movement bears any responsibility for the economic hardship that the palestinian people have been subjected to because i mean they've economic blockade that now exists in gaza one of the main reasons for that is ultimately the embrace of violent struggle of whether you like it or not so do you think that in order to alleviate the pains that the gazans have to go through do you think the hamas movement which is a major part of the palestinian government in gaza at the moment do you thing it has to change the way the way it approaches politics what kind of ray you want them to change of this closed borders of asylum is a close actually just monday and then
a very limited. kind of very limits gusto into what kind of wizened the borders are closed and of this moment yes they are responsible already this is the government. which they take care of all of that to solve the problems that are signed on the moment we need this time to to make it clear for the people that the government is the people the people are the government actually this is all it's going to. collect of punishment there have to be another child says another one of the chances for the people actually under this pressure of this punishment we cannot talk about and the office solution unfortunately we are out of time we have to leave it here but since you asked me in what way hamas could change its approach to politics i just gave it to you in the first part of the program and this is the reigning experience when they shifted from accusing others to actually actively negotiating and that has already produced some substantial
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