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like that and they get free hits and google is very very it is very very profitable to publish cables because you don't have to write cables it's pretty stories. the point as far as i see it is that. there are boundaries to free speech as in the same way as the boundaries to our thoughts into our language and. when you speak when used to speak it is basically words we are dealing with and these boundaries to look differently in different countries but they are always exist in one way or another that is color sensors or conformism or self-censorship or whatever it may be and we have a very unique opportunity to actually just show we are these boundaries are those necessarily mean that these boundary is better than that boundary everything showing where i would ask people to back down to that area but the thing is that
people usually are annoyed with people or if you're unaware of where these boundaries are the easiest way of getting a hold of them is by asking about it and it was a well i cannot write about looking kind of write about sex or whatever they are most often the law will tell you that there are only about most often that we say well we have no boundaries whatsoever yes and this is what you will get when you interview any journalist in the united kingdom or in brazil or in sweden or other yes so what we have here is the tools in actually catching these boundaries if you push any organization they will have boundaries and you're going to get why why all of them including why not outside. existing home. oh you know you. can come with me and it was just super cool. what was yours for pretty. suspicious.
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the former soviet rule. to protect her attention. to the slightest trace looks good on them so. some of these people on good rich can spend millions on on fighting cases. also when it's on the table bridge sit in on. the telly and if you. are ready. for record me. souls' you. see. so so this is a case of. now attention you will draw in. great britain you know what is the you know there's a loophole and britain is
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do extremely. well it's already mocking them and it will become. one thing remained which was you know rough. it was to stop it. for. good of course and so i feared all of this which. this russian. life. was the subject of a. cruel memory. we had a kind of rubric we didn't look serious when we said we tried to play. we were trying to play. while we. could so. that you know from memory that said you know they're all it was an option for you so. among them an equal consideration. so. if your
point is that couldn't. be more explicit in explaining. why we do things and. some nature doesn't generally account for that. were you first of all i. got. if you actually people are going to try to not. we haven't so it was decided that. the new york times would approach government bryant the memorandum separated we had. two sets of communication with you right into the room one is not the embassy in london and little. to see if you will we will do the very much because we need or is. a channel through to you. and the second channel was a little set up by the state caught up with all the agencies. the primary aim
was to do just go. up and you can use. that afternoon you probably have seen either in person or on the t.v. screens the. finished i won't repeat everything i said at the start there but one of the. most significant response to what has happened is exactly what secretary clinton is doing in a stall of kazakhstan as we speak you know she is there working constructively on cooperation and security in a very important part of the world clearly the release of the unauthorized release
of these documents you know. represents risk to the united states and to others with whom we collaborate. on this this is why we condemn what wiki leaks has to basically from kazakstan. right through here. three most especially if you're over three in between i realize i'm going to be you as much as i really are there and i thought i. pulled the kind of. from two different countries where the leaks material has been have been published but they're only looking from the outside without actually having any particular knowledge about it you get the impression that all these various. private u.s. institutions. have acted. from being pressured in
one way or another by the u.s. government in order to block or flows of money in order that's not true that that is you know in the lizards rate i mean that is that is absolutely not true. in my time in government. at no time did government tell any private company what to do. i mean they've been really has been suggestions of that and to be honest there's been no. evidence by those who question this you know it's with. companies protect their own reputation it's not for the government to tell a company what it should or shouldn't do you know they've taken actions because they they they see it as as in their interest to do this or that with a one hundred look at their dinner for the same thing were to have been through for example in europe times of the year of times where all of a sudden they're. stopped from getting funds and they without their offices
closed i could you do it because hating a hypothetical that i can't follow in your brain from harvard to go where they are in the exact same position as for example recordings in europe time decides to publish everything that they get no i mean no but that there is a very sharp distinction here. i mean. you have two actors who are in the business of communicating with a broader public. one after made clear the new york times and other publications we are going to report on what we have we want to do it responsibly and we want to do it in a way that. is is is respectful. of the danger that this might cause to specific individuals and the new york times voluntarily withheld certain documents and certain names because they recognized as
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gives don't want to be gangsters you don't want to. deal with they don't want to blow a window of time that the kid came to be we can see. you do. because i was and i hope i live in the hood and what they. really welcome it. but i felt like. i said. i don't want to die i just really do not want to die young young.
i. am your post i sent a very intrepid reporter down there to sleep overnight he spent thursday night in the park i did live to tell about it what was it like. it was a scary place. i mean zuccotti park right now is it is it's own country for a six year it's half queens right in queens you're not afraid of that stuff you want down there what what's what is to the most about what was going on in zuccotti park what surprised me the most about what was going on there is that it's totally lawless you disguise yourself and you try to look like a protester are you going undercover worried you weren't advertising you were supposed to write one on one i spoke to people i told him i was a post reporter so was no secret and had to be received. well. some people didn't really like that i was a poser of orders to be honest i don't very disturbing here though you write from
your column from your article the threat of rape is very real here for men and women i just sleep at night i did it and see. if you could do to me to be fair to say i had too many characters i paint canvas g.o.p. from your post thank you so much thank you thank you. thank you bill and. also like i said once you start the interviews close the doors
and don't come in. it's general assembly at the u.n. and we. will be coming to. the u.n. general assembly opens this week so there's. a lot. presidents and foreign ministers and stuff and some of them trip through here to receive people here is that customer yeah yeah it's pretty typical me when they're in town and with some of them invite themselves and some of them we invite to come over and meet with the editorial writers and things. and how does it seem to work out. and the rest in the pretty predictable but every once in a while one of the makes news but it's you know it's good to just give them a chance to come over and hear their views that. we kind of makes you into an embassy or a for their the embassy of the new york times or a basically right. and i think you know you may have discovered this yourself or
a news organizations don't always get the kind of access they would like to officials in washington and if you want to go ask the military or the white house to respond to classified information. you know. it can be difficult if you're if you're a representative of a foreign news organization i don't think that's a shame but it's just it's a reality so i think they felt. we would be in a better position to confront the administration with what we had and solicit some kind of reaction from them which which turned out to be the case and your counterpart was that mainly year p.j. crowley or some other people. over it you know this is. the first couple of meetings i think they went over and had them in person and they were representatives of the state department is assume the intelligence agencies were there i know the cia was represented. i'm not sure i just don't remember that
the military was there. because at that point it was mostly nonmilitary matters. after that after the first couple of conversations they just had a daily phone call basically. they did it all you know there was none of this everybody gathered in a room it was they would say we really think you should hold back on this particular cable have and here's why and then we would discuss and decide whether to withhold it or not. many of the countries where we have been traveling and. talking to be the editors or politicians there has been a concern that. these materials can have a destabilizing effect and that in a particular country when you consider. the consequences of publishing that we considered it yeah we talked about it a lot i mean yemen is a good example of that because the state department's argument was this this these
could be destabilizing. but i kind of think it's not our job to decide what is destabilizing and or for that matter to preserve the stability of. countries elsewhere but did you feel that you would have acted differently had the material been of such character that it would have potentially destabilized your country rather than. because you've mentioned it it's hard for me to imagine what that would be i mean if you had had an example or a few years ago you have to say that wireless what weren't let's wiretapping right yes i mean can you explain how you reason at that point in time when you didn't publish the material for those that were when i did publish the first one when you did didn't at first and then i when i didn't publish them. but the concern with it wasn't whether it would destabilize our government because certain was whether or
not it would be of significant value to people who want to attack us. had it been your choice. and if you were in the so on there is of this material that you would not have published in the whole. i think no. you know first of all because there are. that you know. in the documents that we posted . we redacted many names of people whose would have been put in danger. we didn't have not. studied all of the documents to know how many more people might be put in danger to just post the whole thing would be i think irresponsible and let's say with every dime to the names of those who would have been in danger and published it on your site would that be something which would be indicted will. probably not. but we had up we had cited how we were going to publish how we were
going to have the material you know regardless of legal consequences just on journalistic grounds. you know we only wanted to publish we only wanted to do you need the room. yep. you need me or the rip. off. i was going send you here but then i heard you were in here. i just have to hold this pledge like that oh yes it made the drudge report so i'm getting some so i'm getting a lot of traffic prove it i drafted this of course being like those but you know that you got a traffic you got the kind of traffic you necessarily what because a lot of a lot of people who use the word scumbag. but it's a technical term they would think you. were talking about our favorite subject wiki leaks oh. this is arthur sulzberger was the publisher you.
know and. we're just girl you know going back to the writing life of my first op that was published this morning which is. a somewhat. half hearted defense of obama against. distant disenchanted liberals and you know what the drudge report is the drudge report is a website. very conservative website. that has for the basically aggregates headlines from all over the place but with a kind of right wing commentary attached that it's got a huge problem so if matt drudge is the guy runs this web site. find something that you've written puts it on his home page with a snarky comment. it drives traffic amazingly i mean driving traffic is nice
but the traffic that he drives is mostly you know. you scumbag idiot but traffic is. going to do you work for my just to be a muslim or. look at the bricks through. them for when you see that. on stuff that's got us kind of the writer. or the others is this significant a death threat he didn't let them assume that it was similar forces.
are. different in secret the symbol. of a group modest effort indifferent to of all that he for they just need a gun. or she's going to get up and run. in the us sitting there announces what we're doing is we're going to hear from a number. not that though that the push really cock to put us up is that come into it would have been able to cut to close with. this woman to put a good book it is possible. to be another google it is music to discuss with. him the seminal delirium what good things because i'm not some going to take you.
why is the price of gold so high right now demand global demand do you think gold is money. know the value of the only place we have to live of the water that we need to survive it's not compared to gold i mean gold we're not going to eat gold we're not going to behave. we're not going to drink oh well clearly what i'm all is and is in a desperate economic situation absolutely right what we're wrong to do is say there for any kind of economic development from the outside is going to be a benefit their only purpose is to extract as much money as possible to feed into the global financial system. with me your heart the geo political economic system that's extremely exploit true too.
the first was a question whether mining should even be carried out altogether can it be done in a way which doesn't destroy people's was resources. we'll you know those are pretty sure it's gross troops mining is not a what a moment from it's happening in asia in africa and south america in central america in mexico and it's even happening in canada and the united states. right to see. her street. and i think the church. on our reporters with their. instrument.
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