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the latest news and of the week's top stories on our t.v. international phone call between two top diplomats. government could be behind the deadly sniper shootings during the riots in kiev. thousands hold a pro russian rally in the capital of crimea as the ukrainian autonomous republic prepares for a referendum that could see the peninsula break off from kiev. to lecture anybody about violating sovereignty what about the sovereignty of afghanistan washington accuses a rush of invading ukraine crimea. seemingly ignoring the threat of the country's. vast history of engaging in global conflicts.
also this week. in venezuela where a month long standoff between protesters and the government refuses to die down finds out who has the upper hand in the political crisis. and it's time to celebrate the birthday of yuri gagarin approach my space. we bring you the details on the first manned flight to the final frontier remember the space race between america and the u.s.s.r. and take a look at modern day. broadcasting live direct from our studios in moscow reap capping our week's top stories this is with a weakling. now there is a new leadership in ukraine but the country is divided over its legitimacy
a leaked conversation between top european diplomat raised further questions over the interim government's a possible role in the deadly violence in kiev here is what was said in a phone call between the e.u. foreign policy chief and estonia's foreign minister well the evidence shows that people who were killed by snipers from both sides among policemen and people from the streets that they were the same snipers killing people from both sides that yeah that same same handwriting the same type of bullets and it's really disturbing that now with the new. new question that they don't want to investigate what exactly happened so that varies now stronger and stronger understanding that behind snipers stable it was not called which but it was somebody from the new coalition. it's tony has confirmed that the conversation was authentic our ever
claimed its foreign minister was simply reviewing what he had heard around kiev and was not giving an assessment of the opposition's possible involvement meanwhile this video that we're about to play has added to suspicions that the ukrainian opposition may have brought in the sharpshooters the selves it shows a sniper rifle with a silencer being discovered in a car on independence square last month an m.p. from the leading opposition party who is now head of the presidential administration got inside that vehicle and drove off this caused an uproar from the protesters because they wanted to see if the weapon was used to shoot their fellow demonstrators a member of our very own our t.v. crew was nearly shot by a sniper bullet. shared his frightening experience with archies. so good now being without a bullet proof vest because i had to wear it for literally two weeks there let me just give you the idea how my morning february the twentieth on thursday started i came to do a live shot in front of the hotel and things started to unravel right where i was
standing you can see. a grenade going off it was just one minute before i was supposed to go live and then at some point these people were literally covering everything around me i mean clearly these are the protesters from the my down but i had to withdraw because i really knew what they didn't know what the intentions were and besides they were grenades thrown from the outside by the police so this was quite scary in the first place then i went inside the hotel and had to do another live shot when a bullet came through the window over there where i was supposed to stand in two minutes so literally i was two minutes away from being shot dead and see the bullet hole that went through the window into the wall and ricocheted it over there these are the parts of the bullet which are left on the wall. so literally two minutes after that i went on air. in from a safer position and these were my first words when i came in i would probably love to give you a better view of the independence square which is just over here but we were just. short we just saw a gun fire it literally broke our window over here you can see i asked my camera to
zoom in leaving we found the bullet seven sixty two kalashnikov one of our rooms and one of our colleagues our camera system and then you on east of had his bullet proof vest scratched graved by a bullet from a window i'll just give you some of my videos which i shot with my phone on the ground when the assault happened. this was touted as the area which was completely shot at this is the place where the sniper fire you can see a person there he's filming he's a tourist is not a press he doesn't have a bulletproof vest is filming the retreat of the policeman on that balcony over there this is the police line that's where the gun shot was supposedly coming from which you see no one is firing the person just walking down the street we the press me myself were standing over here. this is five minutes later when bullets started whistling you can see these people over here these are the ones we all know what happened to them they were all killed or fatally wounded they had no weapons on the shields and they went to the police lines over there in this one and there's two
and now there'll be a very peculiar moment please stop my directed me to stop so this is one of the protesters one of the rioters running with a gun with a rifle in his hand so the question i am still struggling to answer is how come these people with no weapons went there this guy's running away in five minutes or seven minutes after that the first dead body the biggest question right now i still don't understand who made those people weaponless people go into the police lines when people with guns were running away from their. you will not see most of the media raising the same questions about who is behind the recent bloodshed in kiev as their focus has now shifted to the situation in crimea the black sea peninsula which is currently an autonomous republic of ukraine is said to revisit its status authorities there have not recognized the new government in kiev and now have decided to hold a referendum take a look at what they're saying it is scheduled for march sixteenth here are the
opposition or excuse me here the options that the people will be choosing from option one crimea remains a part of the ukraine but gains more autonomy from kiev with separate citizenship and its own a legal system government a flag an anthem it will virtually become a new state the idea is to shield the peninsula from kids economic encroachments as well as any possible threats to russians and other non ukrainians option two is moscow steps in to take control of the peninsula used to be an integral part of russia for almost two centuries before being handed over to ukraine during soviet times and one of the perks again from joining according to officials would be an increase in social spending parties possibly or has been hearing from the crimean people on why they might want such a drastic change thousands of people have turned up at this procession rally in some from they're calling on russia to protect crimea they're holding up their
cards that say yankees go home and no two passes and the mood here is obese and people i'm talking to say they contemplate to be a pos of the russian federation on the sixteenth of march the country will hold a referendum on asking crimea whether or not they want to join russia latest polls suggest moving sixty percent will give the knowledge and the reasons are simple with. the government in power is not democratic because they had a revolution in an armed way so that everything it orders is not legal but it. the forceful grab of power violent seizure of government buildings and nothing short of armed couth that's how crimean see recent events and here they strongly disagree that those protesting in the capital represented the majority of the country's population and refused to recognize the coming to authorities as legitimate. right now are missionaries you know they all want to speak or they are offered one
day iraq everybody figured all those people i'll get all of your green your money but most ukrainians as well as russians and europeans view them as nazi collaborators the interim government has six ministers including the deputy prime minister from the ultra nationalist far right svoboda party one m.p. from the party has already threatened russia with nuclear weapons if moscow does not cease to support the developments in crimea and one of the strongest nationalist groups right sector even has its leader running for president he's also on an international wanted list for inciting terrorism and has demanded that kiev provide his fighters with weapons in response to the situation in crimea. their mission is not to promote the ukrainian language as much as to suppress the russian language and everything that is not ukrainian green ninety seven percent of crime against speak russian and the fact that one of the first actions was to strip
the russian language of its official status could not leave people here indifferent russian has also disappeared from government websites and russian t.v. channels might soon be banned they were also being cases of russian journalists being denied access to the country. by european scares that other countries they join the european union their economies dropped even more after wards we only want to be with russia. the partnership deal with the e.u. was seen as catastrophic yet from the un states now the west is promising economic aid through the international monetary fund but the assistance comes under the strictest of conditions and has already pushed other countries to the brink of collapse. the referendum is seven days away voters will be asked any two questions but whichever way the people choose the status of crimea will inevitably be very different from what it is now and there were actually many more reasons for people here to want to change policy r.t.
some from upul. well it is not only in crimea where people are not happy with the changes in kiev thousands marched in cities across the southeast and throughout the week pushing for referendums one of the most recent rallies took place and done over a thousand people have protested against to the interim central government and demanded the release of the so-called people's governor there a pro russian activist who was chosen by locals to represent them was earlier arrested by authorities meanwhile in the city of lugansk a local parliament building was seized and a russian flag was raised they also made it the governor appointed by kiev a week ago resign and then elected their own people's governor in the new pope at prof's an anti-fascist march was held and at a denouncing of the far right groups that are coming to power in kiev meanwhile a number of russian journalists heading for ukraine to cover those anti-government protests have been denied access to the country and it's not just reporters it has
recently become tricky for russian citizens in general to get into the country the first deputy to the head of ukraine's border service says over three thousand people have now been prevented from entering the country from russian territory in a recent days local officials say the presence of those people is on wanted. and the blockade on the russian media in ukraine allegations of deadly shootings by the new government and ultra violent radical nationalists doing whatever they want none of this seems to worry the u.s. and e.u. leaders the only problem according to them is russia's role in crimea the steps russia has taken. by lation ukraine's sovereignty and russia's change in slavery a breach of international law we strongly condemn unprovoked fire your mission if you cranium so far into the you just don't invade another country on phony pretext
there's some very strong words from u.s. secretary of state john kerry there and former u.s. presidential candidate ron paul thinks that washington has no right to make these types of claims because of america's own lengthy history of creating conflict abroad for us to lecture anybody about violating sovereignty what about the sovereignty of iraq and afghanistan and yemen and north africa and we're constantly being involved pakistan in the use of drugs own missiles we have eight hundred bases around the world we're in one hundred thirty countries where always involved it seems in somebody else's alexion and we preach democracy we finally got democracy theoretically you know in egypt there was an election and of course we didn't like the person they elected so we said let's go back to the military so i don't i don't lie hypocrisy for us to preach one thing at the same time behind the
scenes we're doing things to stir up trouble for many many different reasons. washington backed up its tough talk by implementing visa bans and asset freezes for those russians they deemed a threat to ukraine's sovereignty after barack obama ordered these sanctions the e.u. said it could follow suit but there's reason to believe european nations may be reluctant to follow through on that promise the e.u. is hoping to gain leverage with these sanctions but what do they stand to lose around one thousand million russian tourists pour in billions of dollars into e.u. coffers every year and sanctions could put an end to that cash pipeline and speaking of pipelines russia supplies natural gas to europe which accounts for nearly a third of the e.u. supplies russia is also a very lucrative market for european car manufacturers paris struck a one point six billion dollar defense deal with moscow in two thousand and eleven which will send french warships to russia russians are also
a major cash cow in britain as well paying hundreds of millions in luxury tax every year joe political analyst patrick head exam gave us more reasons why sanctions would be counterproductive. the e.u. has no leverage whatsoever with russia europe is buying gas from russia and europe is paying for that in euro's those euros come back to europe via russia to buy goods and services in europe so germany is a great beneficiary of this so in terms of any sanctions from the e.u. there's no chance whatsoever it's all bark and no bite you know as far as washington goes if they're if they do impose sanctions it's huge ramifications here for for progress that's made been made globally in the last century and that's the restart of the start treaty in two thousand and ten that's certainly in jeopardy it's regressive it's got no benefits really for today's society the world's moved
ahead and seems washington is very keen to drag it back into the past. from mystery snipers and demonstrations on the ground to international wrangling over the ukraine crisis online we're keeping track of everything that is happening in kiev and beyond you can head to our team dot com and click on the ukraine timeline banner for live updates. the second day of the winter paralympics has wrapped up with russia adding to its lead winning another five medals later in the program we'll report on the changes sochi underwent so that all of the fans there are able to enjoy the spectacular sporting performances. plus ahead of parliamentary elections next month is facing a new wave of violence a suspected suicide bombing attack in the city of hillah has left over forty people dead and more than one hundred injured we've got the full story in just a few minutes right here on our team. this week saw no resolution for
the divided people of venezuela where fresh skirmishes between demonstrators and police broke out in the capital on sunday security forces used tear gas to break up angry crowds heading towards the food ministry to protest against continuing shortages the unrest has been going on for almost a month and has claimed the lives of twenty one people president maduro blames washington for the turmoil saying it is backing a far right opposition group trying to overthrow the government next week foreign ministers in latin america are set to meet to discuss venezuela's ongoing political crisis. explains the way. the anti-government protests in venice while i have not been massive there have been some that have been significantly large but not larger than other opposition protests have been during the past few years people who who have been loyal to part of chevy small and supported. in the government now
nicolas maduro i don't think that has affected. their support and their loyalty in fact i think we may have seen the contrary occur because some of the protests that have not been numerous but have been smaller scale and more widespread throughout the country have become very violent this is cause a lot of people maybe not necessarily to the come out and support directly president maduro but certainly to oppose those protests taking place in the country because they're disruptive and they're not achieving any kind of significant goals and so it's really a moment now where the extremists on both sides need to come together and find common ground the dissent in venezuela comes as the country marks the first anniversary of the death of former president to go charges one of america's most popular leaders whose legacy was commemorated in the docu. as well known american director oliver stone documented it you can watch it online at r.t. dot com. we also have plenty more stories for you online including hundreds of
immigrant detainees at a detention center in washington have gone on a hunger strike protesting against deportation. plus a little bit chilly but an icy t. shirt competition frozen beard contest and cough and racing well that's how colorado celebrates one of the world's most unusual festivals frozen dead guide days on the in motion section of our website we've got footage and all of the sales force. a suicide bomber attack at a checkpoint in the iraqi city of hillah has killed over forty people and left more than one hundred wounded women and children were among the victims reportedly it is the latest in a string of blasts across the nation and it comes amid a period of renewed violence in recent months independent filmmaker chandan says that ongoing proxy wars in the region further destabilize the situation in iraq on
the one hand i'm only one of the government needs the hardware and the training to really counts of the deaths for force which they're facing the same time who is giving succor who is giving oxygen to the death squads it's really it's the regimes based in london and washington and through their proxies in the gulf when it was only yesterday that maliki said. on saudi arabia our act was the first time he uses language he said they are at war with iraq through that through the death squads so really with maliki government is in a terrible situation principally the people of iraq. or traumatic situation. and day two of the winter paralympics saw the host nation to its lead with russia has a cross-country skiers sweeping the medals in the fifteen kilometer race to keep the games running smoothly so she has been equipped to cater to all visitors so that
nothing stops the fans from cheering on the athletes or she's going to france reports from the black sea resort so when day two of the saatchi paralympics dawned bright and beautiful today the crowds were definitely in a hurry to get the game started once again you know one of the things that's amazing to see down here and saatchi is the ability that the people with impaired mobility have to really get around not just the athletes but their fans their family members and their loved ones for every set of stairs there is a very comfortable ramp to go up and down and that's so important for these people to be able to properly access all of the all of the facilities whether it's the train stations the airports or. a lot of work has gone into developing that here in sochi in fact the president of the paralympic committee served phillip craven shared his thoughts about the conditions for this here and saatchi let's listen very very pleased with the incredible speed do in the last few years to really
transform really a piece of wasteland into into the coastal cluster and the olympic and paralympic and then when you go up the valley and see what's pretty installed and then you get to probably move up the mountain it's just quite amazing the home team is at this point still dominating the medal count here's to hoping that it can't continue this momentum and stay at the top of the medal rankings. now take a swing around the globe to look at some other headlines making news this hour at least forty five african migrants are dead after their boat sank off the southern coast of yemen according to officials the country's naval patrol was able to rescue about thirty passengers the southern coast of yemen is one of the world's main shipping routes connecting the mediterranean and the arabian sea it is also a route for hundreds of african migrants who attempt to reach yemen in overcrowded boats each year. a group of about
a dozen nuns held captive by rebels in syria have been freed following a prisoner exchange deal the rebel controlled area where the nuns were taken was recently the focus of a government military siege they disappeared following an attack on a christian town north of damascus in december. eleven people have been killed and several injured over the weekend in afghanistan according to reports in two separate assaults in civilian lives civilian lives excuse me were claimed in the volatile helmand province in the country's south although driven back in the by the u.s. in the year two thousand and ten the taliban has slowly returned. to the area with the locals claiming almost eighty percent of the province is under the group's control. thousands of orthodox jews have held protests in new york city the demonstrators rallied against israel's proposal to include strictly religious
people to serve in the country's army students of religious schools in israel are not obliged to serve in the military the proposed draft law would be cancelled this exemption and make army service compulsory. space the final frontier this was a flight that changed our view of the world as we know it the first man to leave the boundaries of planet earth in one thousand nine hundred sixty one yuri gagarin made that pioneering first step towards the stars he would have been celebrating his eightieth birthday today now his name rapidly became known worldwide and even though today some people are a little hazy on the details gary not left an indelible mark on people's minds now we went to the streets of new york and london to find out what europeans and americans think of your younger in yes i do he was the very first man to spice this i know that. rush i only know that he was russian but he was the first my space to think about what it was like what space was really about being the first man in
space was. for the soviet union the president. of the dictator that get kicked out a ground breaker the first to go in space the astronauts. not as. much as you could. but now they tell you it's. google. now while some people might still need to google good care and there is no question about his fame among his compatriots a survey saw the russians pick the first man in space as the nation's number one idol of the twentieth century and his voyage brought not just fame but good care and it also spurred the space race between the soviet union in the united states or on that now from marty's more important. sometimes a standoff between two great powers can create a healthy competition amid tensions threats and an arms race reaching the new
frontier was a dream shared by cold war adversaries this space research would end several years after new armstrong landed on the moon but what he gand was a new cosmic partnership in one thousand nine hundred five the joint apollo so use mission achieved the famous handshake in space the soviets and americans went from pointing missiles at each other to exploring the galaxy together eventually becoming partners in international space station programs if you talk to the astronauts in the crowd they point out that when they look at the earth from space there are no borders and really want to earth and they have a commodore for the of the roof and the further knowledge you have of. the planet. with that commodore the war together or world over the decades russia and the us have disagreed on many issues yet their extraterrestrial relationship
remains stable experts say the countries need each other to maintain and build upon the successes already achieved that there is a space club if you will that the united states and and russia created of of the there's a prestige a national capability that's expressed by the ability to explore space as heroic achievement opened up the door to on imaginable possibilities russia and the u.s. overcome their differences achieving a common approach in outer space here on earth not so simple reporting from new york marina port r.t. . space travel is certainly dangerous and sometimes on predictable as a result a pile of professional superstitions has grown among cosmonauts some of them even started by a good guy. and himself now first of all in the past you had to shave off that mustache cosmonauts considered them to be bad luck today having stubble in space is
fine but remember that you have to lay flowers that you're good parents memorial red carnations in fact they are mandatory third you must be ready to check into the cosmonaut hotel which has historically housed of those about to blast off into space also all male cosmonauts kind of weird but they must take a pee on a wheel of the bus that takes them to the launch pad not something that is easy to do in a spacesuit and as well the captain of the mission gives a friendly kick to the other team members apparently it brings luck now finally there's always a toy hanging in the cockpit not just to relax the mood but also for ground control to see if the crew has entered into zero gravity. well coming your way in a couple minutes it's crosstalk with hospital earlier watch watch international stay with us.
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in poetry keep. ignoring. the post only what really matters. to your facebook news feed. hello and welcome to crossfire where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle with western backed extremists tightening their control in care of the russian majority in crimea is set to vote on a sovereign future the west still talks of sanctions against russia most are counterproductive it would appear victoria nuland and the e.u. are getting more than they bargained for. to cross talk to crisis in ukraine i'm joined by my guess been heiress in moscow he's the editor in chief of business new europe also in moscow we have mark sloboda
he's a senior lecturer in researcher at moscow state university and in london we crossed to patrick headings and he is a journalist writer and founder of the news website twenty first century wired dot com our gentlemen girls in fact that means you can jump in anytime you want before we talk about the nuances going on in ukraine right now mark if i can go to you first here in moscow what is the most glaring outrages spin that you see about this crisis coming from western media at this moment well i would say the most glaring outrageous spin that i've seen is the blackout particularly in the u.s. media of the revelations of the leaked phone calls between caffe the baroness ashton the e.u. foreign affairs chief and the estonian foreign minister where he revealed to her his strong understanding that it was actually the leaders of the
opposition or the leaders of the euro by don protests who in his opinion were the ones who ordered snipers to kill their own. people ed police in an attempt to create this revolutionary crisis moment that helped impelled them into power the fact that this has barely been covered in europe and when it has it has been slandered as coming from russian media and completely blacked out of the us media i think at this point is the most egregious form of spin and we should call it censorship ok patrick in london it seems to because of the tone of the media coming out of the west it really makes it difficult to have any kind of common ground here it's so divided it's so black and white right now hillary clinton is calling the president of the russian federation like hitler i
mean how can we get to a point where we can start talking because i want to talk about crimea in a minute or so but things are moving in a direction where there's very little bit of control that either side can really exercise go ahead patrick in london you know it's more than just the tone of the media coverage peter it's the complete lack of little information as possible being relayed to the audiences in the west for instance talk over the last two weeks as if russia was sending all its troops into the crimea ignoring the fact that some twenty six thousand troops are permanently stationed at their bases there and the russian naval black sea fleet has been established there since seventeen eighty three so there's an old saying that war is god's way of teaching americans geography that's certainly the case in this particular point but just quickly quickly hillary clinton barack obama john kerry the problem in there's a political crisis in america whereby we're not the politicians are not voicing the
views of the people at all they are strictly speaking for the interests of trans national corporations and that's that makes if you see it from the. interview peter it makes a lot of sense what this retort is about when we discussed short of ok you know ben it's very interesting and it's getting down to we spoke earlier before the program it's getting down to what your legal interpretation of what's going on in the ground we can talk about this referendum this coming up in crimea of course the central government in kiev this interim government a rebel government however you want to describe it says it's illegal of course barack obama being a constitutional lawyer says it's also we legal but what about self-determination. i think this is one of the biggest problems here you know the comments on the press and the lack of reporting as a journalist i'm actually fairly shops at the standard reporting in so much as the traditional objectivity to sources has gone out of the window and like always with russia seems to have a special place in his heart for journalists. they get very emotional and
everyone's affectively shouting at each other and there's a lot of serious points debates that need to be cleared up in this whole divide before we can actually gets was any kind of exit from the crisis and you mention stuff there for termination the problem we have here is that the government such as it is in kiev has of questionable legitimacy and yet it's acting as if it was a unity government and at the same time is being recognized as such by the west and on the other side you've got putin and the kremlin and russia who don't accept the authority of the digital missy of the government with some justification i think the key elements to understand in this whole situation was that the deal that was struck between the opposition leaders unocal which brokered by the e.u. on the twenty first the day after the shooting was the exit that was would have given us a legal and legitimate transition out of this crisis with going to court staying in
power for a few more months maybe as the end of the year and then elections and then everybody who's participating in this could have representation and give the views however there was a deal was rejected the next day by my dad and by the crowd in the central square who threatened ghana coverage out of office by saturday four o'clock or we will come and get you in other words kill him and he fled and that's led to a complete collapse is now a complete vacuum of just mysie on any side and until we get over this until we find some way to get all sides to talk together then there's going to be no way out of the crisis and it comes down to a rule of fist fight of the. between the west on one side and the russian on the other side you know it's very interesting marcus that we have an illegal government in kiev it has no legal justification it has no real total justification at all but the people in crimea want to vote about their future here but they're being denied that by the west it's kind of everything's upside down right here how can it be
legal government say what is legal is what is not particularly if the constitution isn't even working right now but that's a very good point. first and foremost is that this illegal putsch government has absolutely zero constitutional and democratic legitimacy and in fact over the the time since it has assumed power at the hands of this violent mob of alternation lists it has repeatedly and continuously trampled all over what remained of the ukrainian constitution so there is no legitimate authority that the government the representative government in the crimea represent above its own people can look to for any kind of law or constitutional order and further as far as international law goes. the international court of justice on its advisory
opinion on the settlement and costs of zero made clear that a unilateral declaration of independence is within the bounds of international law so when we have a complete collapse of domestic law and constitutional order and a concurrence from the highest international bodies of international law the claims of western regimes that this referendum is somehow illegal or a representative is simply a case of it being against their geopolitical interests at this point you know patrick it's very interesting is that when the western powers want to see a group of people have their into. and if they push really hard for it there are a lot of money out of they get a lot of press eccentric cetera but when i and other group of people want the same thing they're denied it because it doesn't fit the narrative that they're pushing here about this new democratic ukraine which is absolutely nonsense at this point you have the acting foreign minister in the ukraine andriy. said that no matter
what the crimean people say in a referendum that they will not let go of the crimea and that in this view is supported by a course the e.u. and i find that interesting because there's a number of countries within the e.u. who voted against the membership in the e.u. in the referendum and that was simply ignored for expediency to push the treaty through so you have this double standard and i must also remind everybody that only eight or nine months ago when the muslim brotherhood was ousted in a popular uprising in egypt the u.s. set its emissaries begging to reinstate the democratically elected government and that it was absolutely. you know unacceptable from their standard so we have a clear double standard here so mazing thing is if you look at what happened in syria there's a kind of a trend of the the west getting in bed with people who are marriages of convenience
so they backed a jihad jihad is linked forces in syria for regime change and now you have the total spin whereby you have the e.u. getting in bed with neo nazis in an easy jihad in kiev so it's absolutely incredible but then you know in the beginning the program you talked about media coverage here i think this is patrick brings up a very interesting point in some of the people in that interim government a rebel government they're just odious people they're racists they have nazi ideas but where is it covered in western media. well everyone's picking and choosing are they i mean there's an array to on both sides and everyone's picking out the pieces of the story that fit their rates if you know be sued lead my down or despotic russian on the other side i think at this point what you need to do is actually disregard everything that everyone says because it's all become in a way irrelevant what we've because we have this legal vacuum with this transition
between the government that we have now is it's come down to a straight raw power play where the e.u. a backing the candidates which is the opposition government in kiev and the russians are backing the large russian speaking population and in a way my view of this is that the e.u. have actually caused this whole crisis in some sense because they have blatantly ignored the fact that the country is deeply divided between these two factions east and west russian persian pro ukrainian nationalist and by doing this the pushing their agenda through refusing to see the other side and that's going to lead to a division although you know the focus was on my down and the demonstrations which have now come culminated in this new government is soon is that finished you put a new government in pro nationalists western orientated ukrainian government it's only natural that the other half of the country are actually going to stand up and
say well hang about we didn't have any say in this and we were against the protests in the first place and now we're being completely ignored what about us and so i think you know in a few months you're going to see and see my damn process where that i see you get on that point there i'm going to jump in we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on ukraine with our team. so money fame fee payers who are so pro my don and so supportive of all those people who actually stood out there and some of them paid for it by their lights
well i mean i think i think you're hitting this is always the disconnect with europe i mean it's i deal with that all the time and it's incredibly frustrating it's a bit like the wizard of oz you hear this wonderfully booming voice filling the cathedral you find out the wizards are about a foot now after all. the problem with europe in general is that it over promises. to least be cool language. programs and documentaries in arabic it's all here on all t.v. reporting from the will talks about six of the ip interviews intriguing story to tell you. in troy arabic to find out more visit our big old t.v. show it's called.
welcome to cross talk we're all things were considered on peter lavelle mind you were discussing the recent developments in ukraine. ok mark at the very last second of the first half of the program you want to jump in so please do go ahead yes about the nature of some of the members of this putsch regime that has seized power in kiev it should be noted that in december just over a year ago the summer of two thousand and twelve the european parliament passed a resolution specifically condemning the swoboda party in the ukraine for its zina phobia anti-semitism and ultra nationalism and urged all democratic forces within the ukraine to avoid working with it in any government function
likewise the united states in june of this year according to the israeli press banned small boat a party leaders for their amateur anti-semitism and nationalism again based on complaints from the samwise and all foundation so. between the swoboda party which both in the western academic and journalistic literature up until a few months ago was openly referred to as a neo nazi party and the this newly formed the ultra nationalist right sector which forms a cult of worship around the genocidal nazi collaborator collaborator stepan bandera there are eight seats in the government of the ukraine this puts regime occupied by them and these include all the state organs of power including the ministry of defense the intelligence the police the interior troops the new ministry of
and the prosecutor general's office so any attempt by the western press to or the western governments to claim that the ultra nationalist and right wing factors within this government are only a fringe or are in significant or completely and utterly facetious and an outright lie you know patrick it's very interesting victoria nuland referred to the current believed by some people the prime minister he she referred to them as yeah so i will use yeah well he had a meeting with nato my goodness the country is about to collapse but he had time to meet nato but even if i could jump in if i could some people you know let me out let me ask you that when for some people go to go ahead. you know this is another angle that the western media nor politicians want to mention too much as how important in terms of expansion of nato to ukraine is but you know
crane is basically a basket case economically thirty five million by any billion by anybody's estimate sovereign debt in order to finance this sort of black hole which is the ukraine europe relies on the gas euro recycling of gas euro through russia paid in euros and russia will spend that money back in europe ok so there will be no sanctions whatsoever with regards to the e.u. with regard to the united states again the bark is much worse than the bite because the reality is well this time last year what what was the u.s. media and the white house hyping they were hyping a threat with north korea why because there was a lot of talk about cutting the pentagon budget i believe that this is going to get very very hot in the next thirty days and it's going to cool down after april once budgets are secured and of course this is going to be the nucular assets are a big talking point here and this is something i think that's going to come out in
the next certainly but certainly this is far from over ben you want to jump in go right ahead i just wanted to put up a month's point i mean clearly the people in the position can put an i.b.m. back by eighty there's a very dodgy characters in that people that the west have been treating and a hands off until now however it's clear from that that the proxies to pursue the americas policy that they you know they want to grab the ukraine and the point the russians are making that we have a very clear and long historical cultural ties and more of a from the soviet era economic ties with ukraine and our interests need to be respected but they've been totally rebuffed on that point and so i think the kremlin has taken the view that well we've been totally ignored. we have perfectly valid claims and because they railroading through this change with these proxies who are not all that it's meant nor are they in any way representative of the whole country. putin society take what is in my mind still extremely drastic action but
the point he's making is that ok if you refuse to talk to us in a civilized way around a negotiator able to talk and that was suggested in the run up to this crisis and that was rebuffed is that what i'm going to take more drastic action because clearly you're paying no attention to me you are treating us like a country as far as pilot politics are concerned and i'm sorry. and so they've acted in this extremely aggressive and dramatic way which is precipitated this crisis but i think that was the point he wanted to make is that you know you can signal or us we're too big and powerful and important for commute craned for you to do that mark if i go back to you i mean you can't ignore the hard realities on the ground to this economy is bust it's going to get a far worse there's a lot of debts to be paid and the price of gas is going to go up if the i.m.f. comes in there's going to be massive austerity and this is not going to get better for a very long time and who's going to pay for it is the you going to pay for certainly
the u.s. doesn't want to pay for it russia was willing to help. the people who are going to pay for it are the people that have throughout this entire. last three months have been denied both by the western governments the western press and by the puts regime that has seized power are the people of the east and south ukraine which in no way shape or form is this government this regime in kiev representative of their interests in fact it is actively doing everything it can to suppress their peaceful political protests now in the east and south and the east is by far the most economically productive area of the ukraine it produces the vast majority of the ukraine's exports it controls nearly all of its industry and any. i.m.f. deal which is instituted through the association agreement and the deep and comprehensive
free trade agreement which this supposedly interim government led by a prime minister the person who calls himself the prime minister of the ukraine you know it's in europe has already indicated that despite not being elected he will now institute the e.u. association agreement conveniently after this regime change this radical neo liberal shock therapy will devastate the economy of the east in the south and the people there will be unemployed in massive numbers the ukrainian press has already reported that pensions in the country are about to be cut by at least in the porch occupied areas of the country are about to be cut by fifty percent we will we will see gas prices rise we will see a devaluation of the. there will be absolute economic chaos it will be like the one nine hundred ninety s. in russia on steroids and it is the e.u.
this. regime. that will be forcing this the people of the east and the south the ones who are denied and are actually being repressed by kiev appointed oligarchs right now who will be forced to pay the price you know patrick i think it's very interesting to me is that this is a completely artificial crisis that's been created here it's completely artificial . yes and clearly there's a schedule there's a timeline to be met on the part of western interest i mean the victoria nuland said it herself in a speech before christmas she said that we need to make the ukraine better environment for for for much needed foreign investment in order to open up the sale of its state assets to foreign corporations and private foreign private banks that is essentially what the e.u. is it's a debtors union and this crisis is only serving to open the door for transnational
corporate interests to come in and basically buy up everything for essentially pennies on the dollar and then saddle down the ukraine with debt that is not being articulated to the ukrainian people i am sure by the current sitting government right now it's an absolute it's going to be a fire sale it's going to put the country in debt for the next thirty to forty to fifty years and totally depend in owned by foreign corporations that's what the e.u. is attempting to do this is what u.s. interests are attempting to do on the energy side and that is not being told to the people and fortunately the media is very naive about this point you know ben it seems to me that in depending on how this thing plays out in the crimea we're going to see just a repeat of all of this again because with the austerity we're going to have to see them i don on fire again and maybe by that point in time the east and south will say we just don't want anything to do with what you people are doing in kiev
because it was tough before now it's turning into an absolute catastrophe. it's a case of you could have a cat for the what you wish for the foot of a mox point that you know the i.m.f. are going to come in but in addition to austerity you know you have all the additional costs that ignoring russia bring with it it's the first thing is this crisis has now become a lot more expensive i mean the russian sale that was cut into seven came with a fifteen billion dollars package of which they've already received. to three billion dollars and that was probably enough to get ukraine through this year into next year however because of the dislocation because of the collapsing retail been held in the economy up because of the problems in industry the depressed steel prices in particular suddenly the bill has gone from fifteen billion to thirty five billion so the government says this a bit less and on top of that evil also going to now have to pay the gas problem gas bill is going to go back from the two hundred special price that was negotiated
in december to four hundred that adds another seven billion dollars a year to put this into context the entire country has a total of fifteen billion dollars in our reserves and that's not even enough to support the national currency as it is someone is going to have to come up with a hell of a lot of money very quickly to stop the grieving a collapsing to stop the banking sectors collapse to stop an economic collapse and given all of that who's going to pay for this at the end of the day is going to be the ukrainian people they may be given some debt by the i.m.f. but at the end of the day the people are going to have to pay is going to mean higher tax burdens it's going to mean lower pensions lower wages no investment and i think it's very likely that when people actually start to feel the economic pain of this e.u. do which is a lot more expensive than the russian deal that we're going to see demonstrations and not just from the east and the southeast the you know the pro russian side but from the minds of people as well i will say we always end on
a very depressing no we're discussing this topic here many thanks and i go to moscow and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here darkie see you next time and remember prostate. cancer. somebody faint the day of the europeans who are so pro my down and so supportive of all those people who actually stood there and some of them paid for it by their lights well i mean i think i think you're getting this is always the disconnect with europe i mean it's i deal with that all the time and it's incredibly frustrating it's
a bit like the wizard of oz you hear this wonderfully booming voice filling the cathedral you find out the wizards are about a foot in after all. the problem with europe in general is that it over promises. there's a media leave us so we leave that maybe. the sea motions to cure the other your party there's a goal. for shoes that no one is asking with the guests that you deserve answers from it's all on politicking only on our team.
the east and south of ukraine continue to defy the self-imposed north already in the capital. we look at the region of crimea and those who have taken its defense against. into their own hands. of unpaid bills energy hungry industry could soon be left without gas threatening to bury an economy already close to collapse. also one diplomat facing execution at home for. i could see its application for asylum in the us rejected supporters say he's becoming a victim of politics. and hundreds about to condemn the spread of fracking in the u.k. saying the drilling technique will pollute the neighborhood even cause earthquakes
. it is monday morning here in moscow thanks for joining us on r.t. international. with the week's opening headlines the east south of ukraine is seeing a persistent uprising against the post revolution north already in the capital. kiev has appointed to govern some of the richest regions of the country say everything is absolutely fine and dissent is being dealt with but footage from the streets does suggest otherwise this is one of the most recent rallies here that have become. in the city of donetsk thousands of people protested against kiev self-appointed government they were demanding the release of the people's governor elected by the crowds but later detained by authorities for suggesting
a referendum on the region's status and the city of lugansk. a three thousand strong crowd blockaded the local administration building and raised a russian flag right above it a people's governor was elected here too and in. an anti fascist march denounced the far right groups currently coming to power in kiev. but all this comes amid surfacing reports of troops from the west of ukraine moving towards the south eastern regions and in particular out of crimea peninsula which is holding a referendum on whether to stay part of ukraine remains on high alert and ologies paula sillier takes a look at who exactly is guarding its borders. every headline the same message the russians are in crimea russia invades crimea russian forces tighten their grip on the black sea peninsula western media seems determined to convince the of us russian soldiers are on the streets of crimea so we decided to take
a look for ourselves who is patrolling the region these are the people we met a minute we are on our own land we protect our own land you need is furious he blames mind on protesters for creating instability in the region that must now be addressed. guys clean your own mess in your own cities clean the mess in your own townships where you live you have no business in crimea this is the headquarters of the volunteers of the self-defense squads around the clock leonid dispatches patrols to protect the peninsula there's no way in or out of crimea without him or his men knowing about it if you want peace you get ready for war. it's a pro russian rallies like this that the volunteers are welcome and there are rumors of some three hundred made on profiteers in the city concern is that they might try to cause trouble the self defense units are made up of former combat soldiers
ordinary civilians wanting to protect their families all of volunteers all come from crimea to try to protect my tangent and me after a minor danger from my neck serious interests we're just concerned citizens and i call us police officers or public safety officers or deputy sheriffs you re is one of the oldest who signed up a seventy year old pensioner should be spending his twilight years relaxing but instead he's out here on the street working twelve hour shifts we follow him home where his eyes well up he's embarrassed for us to see him cry but the retired construction worker is terrified everything he's devoted the last forty five years of his life working towards could be destroyed. i'm a patriot of my homeland and i can't stay away from it i must see the little i must be there i'm doing it completely voluntarily around five thousand people have signed up swearing allegiance to the people of crimea the numbers are swinging back
at headquarters leonid tells me another car has been stopped trying to into crimea with hidden weapons for the people of crimea things are now heating up but leone it says they are just going to stand by and do nothing. some from upul well in today's edition of cross talk of these people of elena's guests discussing the economic consequences of the coup in ukraine people who are going to pay for it are the people that have throughout this entire. last three months have been denied both by the western governments the western press and by the regime that has seized power are the people of the east and south ukraine which in no way shape or form is this government this regime in kiev representative of their interests in fact it is actively doing everything it can to suppress their peaceful political protests
now in the east and south of the comments on the press and the lack of reporting as a journalist i'm actually for the show set the standard reporting in so much as the traditional objectivity to sources has got out of the window and like always with russia seems to have a special place in this. they get very emotional and everyone's affectively shouting at each other and there's a lot of serious points debates that need to be cleared up in this whole divide before we can actually gets who has any kind of exit from the crisis. in the meantime a number of russian journalists heading for ukraine to cover protests were blocked from entering and it's not just the media all russian citizens are finding it rather tricky to get into the country ukraine's border service says over three thousand people were prevented from crossing the border in recent days those people dubbed unwanted now the u.s. has threatened russia with sanctions over what washington sees as threats towards
ukraine's sovereignty it has already implemented visa bans on asset freezes for those russians it deems have a well being involved and after barack obama ordered the sanctions the e.u. said it still could follow suit but there is reason to believe that european nations may be reluctant to follow through on that promise and the e.u. as are hoping to gain leverage with these sanctions but what do they stand to lose well there are nineteen million a russian tourists poor and billions of dollars in to you coffers every year and sanctions could put an end to that vital cash pipeline and speaking of pipelines russia pumps natural gas to europe that accounts for nearly a third of the e.u.'s supplies and russia is also a very lucrative market for european car manufacturers also paris struck a one point six billion dollar defense deal with moscow in twenty eleven which will see french warships sent to russia and russians are a major cash cow for britain as well paying hundreds of millions in luxury tax
every single year geo political analyst patrick henningsen he gave us more reasons why sanctions would be that of at the end of the day counter productive. the e.u. has no leverage whatsoever with russia europe is buying gas from russia and europe is paying for that in euro's those euros come back to europe via russia to buy goods and services in europe so germany is a great beneficiary of this so in terms of any sanctions from the e.u. there's no chance whatsoever it's all bark and no bite you know as far as washington goes. if they do impose sanctions it's huge ramifications here for the for progress that's made been made globally in the last century and that's the restart of the start treaty in two thousand and ten that's certainly in jeopardy it's regressive it's got no benefits really for today's society the world's moved ahead and seems washington is very keen to drag it back into the past and troubles
don't and with public dissent and the potential break up of his territory as looming bankruptcy to consider as well and ukraine's desperately working to secure a massive loans. explains the clock is ticking and time is almost up. turn apart by turmoil ukraine is balancing on the verge of default the country's finance ministry says bankruptcy is the looming asin mading it needs as much as thirty five billion dollars an age by the end of two thousand and fifteen and it's for dad is run one hundred forty billion while that's nearly eighty percent of the nation's g.d.p. kits gas debt to russia is estimated at almost two billion dollars for last year's and this year's gas deliveries so far without cash may no longer be able to keep its energy industry going putting gas contracts with europe in danger now here is
how it works a quarter of you are gas comes from russia ukraine and after numerous warnings russia says it will no longer offer ukraine discounted gas prices starting this april so what if you create fails to deliver on its gas trance a deal well we've been there before back in two thousand and six the pipes were turned off when ukraine did not pay and as gas obligations to russia leaving half of you were up and the cooled the winter of two thousand and eight and two thousand nine brought another freezing cold following the same reason than gas supplies were hold it again just as demand was at its peak seeking to ensure an injury to gas supplies russia watched alternative gas transit routes to europe well that's north stream operating since two thousand and twelve connects the you and russia via the baltic sea and the south stream that is planned to be launched by the end of twenty fifteen both of them were planned to bypass the queen which moscow has decided
isn't. now and then its current state and other gas dispute could push into the financial abyss. post-coup government is hoping aid packages coupled together by question backers will save its economy but basic math offers little optimism well that's according to the european asset manager erich krauss if europeans offered something like eleven billion over seven years which mostly comes to one hundred million a month the united states is something like one billion which is less than what ukraine currently owes for gas it has already consumed so it's a bit of a joke this is not going to allow them to survive so eighty fold is only a matter of time we have offered by mr coote and rescue package unfortunately the american sudden did. this issue in ukraine has made it into.
running an alibi our timeline of the ongoing ukrainian crisis that. you can find it on the front page and it's constantly updated with the latest from the crisis stricken country. ukrainian trash come to our land it's a threat to russia which. crimea is a small republican russia is a huge country defend us. the law came to an end when the first moment of cocktail was thrown and our guy who stood there defending the law and order we believe that he. has never surrendered to anyone and it never will.
react to situation i have read the reports. but the no i will leave that to the state department to comment on your latter point. no more weasel words. when you fade a direct question are you prepared for a change when you run should be ready for a. critical speech and now the freedom to cast. i marinate join me. in park and. carry on for me
and much much. only i'm going bust and. we're not far off from the altar you will top it for now welcome to the program on r t international he could be executed at home has already received death threats and his pinning his hopes on the u.s. giving him shelter but an openly gay saudi diplomat who was seeking asylum has been left in legal limbo and some believe for political reasons he's got a nature to context of the story. if saudi arabia being gay could be punished by death public lashings or jail time that's the law four years ago the employees of the saudi consulate in los angel is found out that their colleague ali aka siri is gay saudi arabia has stripped syria of his diplomatic passport and insisted that he
could back to his homeland syria turned to the u.s. government for silence and you would think washington that claims to be vigorously defending gay rights around the globe would at the blink of an eye help this gay saudi man to avoid guaranteed persecution but up to this day a serious status has been up in the air and i'm joined by his friend ali ahmed thank you so much for coming thank you and having a diplomat himself is not willing to speak publicly at the moment mr assyrian says that if he goes back to his country he could be killed in broad daylight as he said why do you think is he was stalling with his asylum for the united states is experiencing a. phenomenon where it is willing to violate its own domestic laws to please the saudi monarchy and this is what the obama administration is doing they are ignoring the same principles that they are advocating abroad in their country by denying was
tenacity to asylum and trying to deport an activity forty years after he sought asylum the day will bomb administration has proved that it does not really care about gay rights more and more than saw it cares for the feeling and says to the keys of the saud you want to thank you for thank you full on top of being gay this saudi man has also openly criticized his country's quote unquote backwardness as well as the role of what he called militant evolves in saudi society and yet saudi arabia is one of america's best friends in the middle east and it is on likely next time president obama warmly greets its ruler. that they will sit down to discuss the treatment of people like. in saudi arabia. i'm going to take. our moments away here on the program international. part of a day. ahead of. the
latest suicide attack. lives. that's coming your way in just a few minutes. from now though what's believed to be the largest. ever held in the u.k. has been staged. protesters insist the drilling method pollutes their neighborhoods and well possibly causes earthquakes they say they shouldn't have to rebuild their homes because of corporate greed reports from the event. well the sun's been signing here in manchester but there's one development that the people taking to the street that don't like and that's the british government was increasing shale gas exploration just a few miles away from where sunday's protest took place barton miles and there is this already seen fracking take place so what is fracking hydraulic fracturing or
fracking is the controversial technique for recovering gas an oil from shale rock shale gas production is already well underway in the u.s. but stories about water contamination and earth tremors as a result of fracking have led to growing concern in the u.k. government to try to win support for the expansion of the controversial process by saying it could bring seventy four thousand jobs and more than three billion pounds of investment to the country but not everyone's convinced. to say washington is god and i don't think there's enough evidence to say. it is taking place right right here six miles away a second place in a residential area. it's just you know we're already seeing a very very strong evidence because he's removed quite the reality is that with the government firmly behind the industry exploratory drilling in the u.k.
will be pushing ahead this year french energy giant take tell announced plans to invest into exploratory wells in the u.k. despite there being a moratorium on fracking in the country but the actual amount of extractable shale reserves in the u.k. is as yet still unknown public sentiment to over the issue is difficult to gauge a recent poll commissioned by the university of nottingham suggested public support for fracking has been decreasing this is being done by budget and see for. they did take place in the u.k. so far and certainly hundreds of people as you can think have taken to the streets to join in the rally and as more exploratory drilling begins to take place in the u.k. you could see this until now well it is the small anti fracking movement begin to find a louder voice. r.t.
reporting from manchester. now from what i had to you on line we've got plenty more stories for you what i got dot com a solid that includes. duty israeli teenagers send a letter to the prime minister refusing to serve in the army ranks because they regard the west bank settlements as a violation of human rights also knows. crowds hit the streets of tokyo almost three years since the fukushima disaster they are demanding the government put an end to atomic energy.
fish. market. drama. stories others in the. us is changing. so picture. this is our international live from moscow the latest suicide bombing in iraq has left more than forty people dead well over one hundred people wounded explosives hidden in a truck went off at a checkpoint in the city of hillah and that was during morning rush hour insurgents
attempts they are attempting to further destabilize the country ahead of upcoming elections and independent filmmaker chandan says that the west's proxies in the gulf monarchies they're the ones to blame. on the one hand i'm really kind of well if you go means the whole of where i am the training to really counts of the sports force which they're facing the same time who is giving soccer who is giving oxygen to the world it's really it's the regimes based in london and washington in our wrists through the proxies in the gold. said. on saudi arabia are at war it's the first time he uses language he said they are at war with iraq through the through the best ones so really the only government is in a terrible situation particularly the people of iraq you know all all traumatic situation are the quick global snapshot for you here what are the international into the world up that we go multinational rescue team has resumed the search for
a missing malaysia airlines plane after a possible deborah from the aircraft was spotted in the sea near vietnam the investigation into what happened is now focusing on two passengers who boarded using stolen passports a contact was lost with the jet two days ago when it disappeared from radar as well on its way from kuala lumpur to beijing it was carrying two hundred thirty nine people. syrian rebels have released a group of about a dozen nuns held captive since december as part of a prisoner exchange deal and they were kidnapped following an attack on a christian town north of damascus there are concerns that syria's christian minority is becoming a target of extremist rebels. and two separate are not going to stand helmand province over the weekend killed eleven and one blast from an improvised explosive device blew up a civilian car carrying members of the same family including two children although
driven back by the u.s. in two thousand and ten the taliban have slowly returned to helmand locals claim almost eighty percent of the province is again under the group's control. thousands of author talks jews have held protests in new york city over israel's proposal to force strictly religious people to serve in the country's army a students of religious schools in israel are not obliged to serve in the military but a proposed draft law would make army service compulsory for all regardless of their beliefs. well thank for joining us here on r.t. international i'm stepping aside as sophie shevardnadze is the latest in a few programs so if that's next.
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please. welcome to surf. shevardnadze as ten deaths over the. crane's autonomy's region of crimea is grabbing global headlines but ukraine's ailing economy could prove to be a much bigger problem for a here right now is that you're ready to pull ukraine out of the slump they had of the political consultant john c. housman enterprises self is with me today to make sense of it all. with ukraine still reeling from revolutionary bloodshed. refusing to recognize
a government imposed. with ukraine in a referendum will decide the region's future could this be a solution to ukraine's between east and west is there a peaceful resolution to the dr says and how much to potential reach boiling point . dr john c. how one political analyst an expert on international relations joining me from berlin it's really great to have you on our program today so i'm just going to start from the latest news ukraine's crimea has called a referendum to take place in the coming weeks what do you expect is going to vote to join the russian federation. well i hope not and the reason i hope not was in the ninety's the russians the united states and the british agreed to ukraine's pounders as they were then exchanged for ukraine doing away with the nuclear weapons that run its territory at the end of the soviet union it does have two options as you say one in the referendum is to join russia the other is some form
of going back to the one thousand nine hundred two constitution which gives it in effect defacto an awful lot of autonomy i mean it would be confident where by day to day the people of crimea would be allowed to run their things and frankly i think confederation suits ukraine as a whole ukraine is such a divided polity there are so many different cultural ethnic linguistic groups here that the best sort of outcome to really lead to stability is what thomas jefferson had right it's less control and this is always very hard for people on either side to really fathom but the less control the more local control there is really the better for a country this is their it and so i'm very much hoping for that outcome but why do you think their race so much resistance to the idea federalized ukraine because when you think about it it could really take care of all its problems right now. i mean there's so much bad blood i mean it is the reason i agree even if everybody what everyone needs to do is take a deep breath and see what's best in the long term for ukraine i mean henry
kissinger i think started that process in the united states yesterday he wrote an editorial where he said look ukraine is always going to be more to russia than just another state and if we don't understand that in the west we simply don't understand what's going on we don't understand history sociology economics anything and i think that's an important point and in return one has to argue that people in western ukraine of course were speaking in generalities many people don't agree but people in western ukraine some of whom were in the austrian garion empire some of them look to the catholic church rather than the orthodox church some of whom speak ukrainian and russian take your pick here one a look more to the west but on the other hand there are many many people in ukraine particular the eastern part in the southern part in crimea who want to look much more to russia the only way to solve this in a long term way in terms of stability is to have this decentralization but that would mean the bad blood on both sides has to be tempered down and so i would urge everyone to take a deep breath so why was the new ukrainian parliament so preoccupied with the status of the russian language in
a first day in power way had so many other pressing economic problems to deal with . well i mean i think that's revolutionary euphoria which is almost always stupid i mean the economist which is certainly it's a wonderfully written pro western magazine and i'm certainly pro western fellow and i agreed with the economist it was monumentally stupid it sent all the wrong signals what you need is an inclusive government that brings in people from southern and eastern ukraine if you want to have this confederal outcome you don't start abolishing russian as another language as your first act and this aided and abetted everything that went after this poor there was a fire already and this put gasoline on the fire there's no doubt about it and in this new process if we can get to a new confederation one of the things the west and particularly the european union i mean it's actually good at this kind of thing is to say be more inclusive bring people. in from the east in the south they did go back on the russian language issue already but don't do monumentally stupid things that just divide people further and so yes i mean that certainly was
a very bad moment but now we have to we are where we are as we say in the policy world and the way forward to me is to say this to push for an exclusive inclusive ity and at the same time to push for a very decentralized ukraine but i just want to follow that out because obviously that first attempt to strip russian of its regional status with me to it by the president so didn't take place but as we speak in camp right now there ultra nationalists politicians deciding the fate of the russian language how is that going to help defuse the situation no it's not it's not going to and one of the problems post revolution anywhere is to try to get more moderate elements who want to actually move beyond the revolutionary situation and reach some sort of moderation and reach to the other side or you never have peace afterwards i mean history proves this over and over and over again the adage gun to the head of ukraine of course is that it's flat broke they don't have time for this nonsense basically according to the new government they need thirty five billion dollars in the next two years even with the european union plumping up say around fifteen or
so and with the i.m.f. money coming which will lead to austerity and making whatever governments in charge there a popular they've still got to come up with an awful lot of money in the next two years no one will want to invest if there's continual simmering revolutionary violence and one side picking on the other in effect and so for the good of the future of the country this is where people in the european union again quietly behind closed doors the germans are very good at this kind of thing they need to begin to say look stop with this nonsense and let's move forward or you're not going to have a state to govern at all well talking about being flat broke think government in kiev has announced the first round of cuts right pensions for working retirees are being cut in half that's among other social spending reductions how do you think you will react could they actually had to districts again. they could i mean i don't think they will at the moment i mean one of the things the government the new government's actually done relatively well despite the idiocy of the russian
language issue is to say they were a kamikaze government it's a transitional government they're going to have to do very tough and unpalatable things they've actually laid the groundwork for that relatively well the main thing they have to do is cut fuel subsidies which is never going to be popular they're lucky that winter is over and this gives them some time and they have had some storage to do this and to get through the next couple months but really the i.m.f. isn't going to want to negotiate a full deal i wouldn't imagine until there's a new government in may or so and so basically it's getting from here to there beginning the cuts setting the groundwork and trying to bring the other side in and look at the overall state of ukraine that's what they have to do right now and then when we have a government which has more legitimacy they have to very quickly negotiate a stabilisation deal with the i.m.f. which of course will have rule of law conditions which will have austerity conditions which will make that government terribly unpopular all the more reason to make it inclusive if it's just one group this group is going to be at than three weeks terribly unpopular it needs to be a national unity government involving basically every voice in the country that's
the only way in the short run that people are going to swallow this medicine and move forward but here's the question at can ukraine afford more a sturdy think if an i.m.f. loan to help ukraine economy is approved it will take to study the fund will not go for it otherwise what does that mean for ukraine and it's foolish i mean i think the i.m.f. should learn from the mistakes they made with the e.u. we don't know i mean austerity is necessary balance budgets are necessary and for countries like ukraine living within your means would be a new thing and they certainly need to do that but saying that the i.m.f. has been wrong time and time again pushing austerity what they need to do is push structural reform you need a labor market mobility you need rule of law you need courts that work you need open contracts that work and look fair to everyone on the inside in the outside. these things cost money but not nearly so much as a stereotype that this is how you get foreign investment in this is how you begin to build up your coffers and move forward as an attractive place to do business
this is in the face of twenty years where this totally has failed in ukraine by everybody who's ruled ukraine was treated as an a.t.m. machine to rob regardless of who's been in power this has to stop on a dime the rhetoric so far as been very good on this but of course the proof is in the putting well ukraine's finances are in disarray like you've said thirty five billion is needed to just keep the country afloat not to mention fix its economy regarding the association treaty is the e.u. ready for a burden like that while it still has to deal with its own crisis. well i mean i think i think the association treaty probably will help and that usually there are lot of conditions that are attached to this but the speed with which the european union has moved in frankly in talking about sanctions and inducements and all the things we're all talking about the one thing europe has done that isn't pitiful that actually matters up to now is indeed this notion of a very quick association agreement whereby ukrainians have access to the european market the money's great but it's access to the market that in the medium and long
term is what really matters and then they'll have conditions afterwards that will be put on the but the conditions will be relatively minor because the e.u. wants to be so helpful in trying to stabilize that government and certainly that's that's what they're doing here the more more problematic moment really for the government is going to be i.m.f. because like you said the i.m.f. shows no sign of doing anything but decides it's one size fits all austerity is the way forward approach and that will hit very quickly in may probably if we look at greece as a template that means by summertime these cuts begin to bite the government becomes unpopular and then we have a problem in say the fall if things are worked out so really the eat what they eat is doing is the one carrot it can put on the table and it's done that the i.m.f. is probably the bigger problem so you're thinking that the new government can't condemn finitely expect a solid aid from the west because the e.u. and u.s. politicians have been very vocal in their support for the might on plantations but when you know yanick of each was asking them for more than just seven hundred
million they were like oh sorry we can't give you more so than he turned to rush or probably think that. billion so do you think the new government and i mean that's not to help. you know yes i do and the reason is precisely the way you laid it out the reason is that even made a mistake in the first place in effect there was a beauty contest going on by the e.u. wasn't really paying attention or playing the united states is totally diverted by asia diverted by the middle east diverted by the iranian nuclear issue diverted by syria shall keep running the list diverted by the mid-terms. diverted by president obama's very low approval rating which doesn't get mentioned is down to thirty nine percent from my days in washington anything below forty or in real trouble and so all these things are preoccupying the united states will let europe take the lead and in typical dilatory fashion they kept took their eye off the ball they didn't make a significant offer you know looked around and what did he do he went to where the money was which is what any politician frankly i can think of would have done and
so to make up for this egregious mistake that everybody knows was made oddly enough i think you can count on the europeans now because i'll say one thing about what's happened it's focused everyone's attention magnificently. hostler they take a short break now we'll be back with every talking to john see how it's going to play the panelists and we're going to discuss the possibility of european options for ukraine stay with us. ukrainian traditions have come to our land it's a threat to russian. crimean it is
so what do you think about the potential of full membership for ukraine i mean those who stood on my down square surely thought it's a possibility. they did and i think they thought wrong if you'd asked me the week before this all blew up if you looked at the great powers in europe actually would have voted on such a thing almost all of them would have voted against it remember that europe is in the midst of an existential crisis it doesn't have a lot of spare cash it isn't one thousand nine hundred sixty seven when german productivity is leading the world germany is having to bail out the entire southern tier of the european union and sort of take on another monumental project as we've laid out that and certainly ukraine would be that is not something that the germans wanted to do i mean working slowly bringing them along in some sort of agreement but not offering fully to even membership suited the french and to the germans to the ground there the two who still by and large make the decisions within europe particularly berlin of course and so i mean i think that a lot of the factors once everything dies down i think that remains the case i
think the problem with the e.u. is it's very very attractive when you're in brussels and the farther you move away from brussels the less attraction there is to that model the chinese for instance have no desire to join the european union so that is not an inducement and so i think the gravitational pull really begins to run out when you reach areas like ukraine and so what they try to do is set up this neighborhood policy where they allow market access with conditionality where they give some a though not as much as the people in the region want where they are they don't talk clearly about whether people join or not but it ultimately that they wouldn't join but would be a semi satisfied peripheral player i think that's exactly what they were looking for the danger now is in this situation people in the west may very well over promise in europe and over promising would be a tragedy because let's remember the only way to get them in is unanimity you just need one great power behind the scenes frankly to say i don't want to pay thirty five billion dollars every two years for the rest of time i'm trying to save
portugal greece italy maybe even france and i do we simply can't afford to do this and so they have to be very very careful right now about not over promising or as you say. the people in the street there's no doubt think that membership is an option i'm far less certain that that's an option so why do you think the day of the europeans were so pro my don and so supportive of all those people who actually stood there and some of them paid for it by their lives. well i mean i think i think you're hitting this is always the disconnect with europe i mean it's i deal with it all the time and it's incredibly frustrating it's a bit like the wizard of oz you hear this wonderfully booming voice filling the cathedral you find out that was about a foot and a half tall the problem with europe in general is that it over promises it thinks it is a template for the world and frankly i think it's a declining power and by the way the chinese the indians the turks the indonesians the south africans the brazilians would agree with me if you look at where growth
is coming in the world it should certainly isn't from europe the only two major european countries growing are germany at about two percent which is not grade and britain at about three and everybody else is in a coma flat lining or actually going down this is not a model of the future and yet to hear them talk they are the future and so this bad name disconnect is the problem both for the people and my don but also for the united states and just like the americans want much tougher sanctions right now to be placed on russian and ukrainian officials but the sanctions don't make sense because the united states needs europe to go along with those sanctions because trade with europe is far greater than trade with america and the europeans don't want to do that and so the americans say well i thought you cared about these people and the europeans look at their shoes and whistle and this is this is very normal i mean this is the pattern i've run into my entire working life and so the thing about europe is don't look at what they say look at what they do is joseph conrad would have it i think that's
a much better way to go and so i'm not at all certain they're going to contribute this kind of money down the road i'm not at all certain that they're going to plump for membership down the road i think they were moved by what happened in the streets as we all were but i think that's a very bad way to make policy you should make it with your head perhaps less than with your heart also mr reith knew who if they had a new government in kiev has said recently like to or three days ago. that this is not a ukraine russia conflict based. as the conflict in here up do you see it this way it's here are ready to see these as an internal problem. no i mean to be fair to the europeans and particularly the germans they're well aware that engaging russia with whom they have met the vast trading relationship beyond even energy in terms of petro chemicals machine tools cars these are the things the german industry does very well around the world and russia is certainly part of that. they're aware that they're next door to russia they're aware even mrs americal who's no friend to
russia in the way they say chancellor schroeder was but the s payday are old traditional friends of russia and steinmeier carries that banner certainly up to now there are different voices in the german government like there are in any other government but the reality is that i don't think they see it that way that it's all one or all the other they're playing a balancing act they want to encourage the new government they want peace certainly and stability on their flank if they want to engage russian keep it engaged i mean those seem to be that's walking a tight rope that can be done but that leads to very adroit diplomacy and knowing about limits which is where again i urge them to tone down their rhetoric and actually match it to what they're prepared to do that and that alone would really help the situation so you are saying that a new not ready teen undertake serious economic sanctions against russia. i mean i don't think so it depends on what we mean by serious but say iran style sanctions which is the most extreme thing coming out of the united states congress i'm not sure that would even pass in america but it certainly wouldn't fly and in
europe and everybody knows that i mean even on a on a smaller matter like the g. eight and whether and whether people go or whether russia is kicked out of the g. eight which is relatively a smaller deal certainly than economic where with all steinmeier made it very clear he thought that was a very bad idea and the united states can't do this without european support particularly german support and so there is ever in europe there are different voices you have a much more hawkish tone from poland the baltics sweden. but from italy from cyprus from germany you have a much more much more we need to engage the russian tone and it's always this isn't a unitary actor this beast speaks with many voices. well some members of the government who came to power after my down belonged to alter nationalist forces and are known for their i'm tyson matie anti minority stance how can they explain working with those people. well it wants to weed them out as fast as possible and i get in any revolution certainly that i can think of used to teach
a course on this in my my priest serious days. you're always going to have extremist elements they do need to be weeded out extremely quickly that we don't have the luxury of time to do to the geo political situation but also turn nearly the economic situation to really play around with nonsense or as you say not a majority of the people in the crowd certainly but an active minority in the crowd were extremists and this is this is the western press certainly says this i was stuck in my train today reading my economist and that certainly came out they were very fair about that and these folks need to be weeded out very very quickly because what they will do is blow up all the possibilities of stability here and it incite other things that we don't want them to do and here we really need the e.u. and its kind of soft power way to lean on the new transitional government and keep the bad apples from ruining the cart right on the right down those who are now in power in k. have promised to cut big business out of politics which was initially
a huge problem and they are the core reason for this acute social protest that brought all these people out the nepotism and the oligarchy being in power and now we see them appointing oligarchy as governors how do explain that. well i mean it as always in a revolution doesn't it sound wonderful i think of the great brian wilson beach boys song wouldn't it be nice but in the real world if you're going to govern these places they've gone to some of the team ashamed those former cronies and said you know you're the only people who have poland where with all in the east to create jobs there we need you to go back we're not going to mess with you as an oligarchy in fact we want you to go help stabilize the place and you do see and she's a great example you see this very mixed emotion in my don you see on one hand people very happy that she's not in their view being persecuted that she's out of jail and yet an awful lot of the new leadership don't want anything to do with her certainly don't want her to run for president don't want to in any sort of elected
position because she's a reminder of the bad old days when she when she was in power you know she owns roughly twenty percent of gas in the country and somebody said to me she's you knew which with braids i mean what's the difference it's one set of all a dark star and other and that's not what the revolutionaries fought for so there's this inherent tension between the promise of revolution of starting a new sounds wonderful and then there's a problem the next day that you've got to find somebody to stabilize that region so you're turning to some of these very oligarchy that they campaigned against i would say to the new government welcome to governing this is what governing is like it's about making very tough choices and compromises and that's how the real world works but of course the biggest tragedy. is that a lot of people died tonight her tests and everyone was so quick to accuse those responsible but leaked phone conversation between a stone as foreign minister and catherine ashton confirmed the rumors step the opposition was responsible for a sniper shooting in cannes and i want us to hear this sound bite from their phone
conversation right now old baby didn't show. that the people who were killed by snipers from both sides among them were the same and the street if they were at the same snipers anything you can from and so that there is oh stronger and stronger understanding that behind snipers they were it was not so young but it was somebody from the new coalition. why do you think we'll go public with this concerns. well i mean again let me i mean i learned this fourteen hundred interviews ago never answer a question we don't know the answer and i honestly don't know what's true here and what's not i do know this certainly merits fraud much further looking into in terms of what's going on and i've seen this report. certainly a reason that they might not want to look into it is that it muddies the water the the image the narrative in the west is that one side is democratic and good and pro
western and deserving and freedom loving and the other side is pretty much the opposite of all that it's a very clean narrative there are good guys they're bad guys it's a john wayne movie history rarely works like that and what i'm delighted to see is in the next couple days people like secretary kissinger the dean of american foreign policy thinking saying let's take a deep breath and a step back and actually look at what's going on on the ground and there are good guys and bad guys on every side i've ever seen involved in politics and i think to muddy the waters is very important now that we look at what really went on certainly there are extremists who were with the people in mind and along with a lot of well meaning freedom loving brave people who wanted a different kind of government there was a mix of people with a mix of motivations going on there but that muddies the clean narrative and frankly it ought to the narrative is never clean and we all ought to be very very hesitant about making it so but bottom line here this certainly needs to be investigated and certainly we need to look into it and when we're talking to the
people in the new transitional government now in the west is the moment particularly with europe this is the moment of maximum influence you know you're offering the market access to europe be sure that you get something for that and what you need to get is clear assurances that can be backed up on rule of law by moderates running things by opening doors to southern and eastern ukrainians by pushing for a confederation that has an inclusive government now they'll listen to you when you write the check when you let them in you'll never have so much. leverage again now's the time to really push for those things rather quickly thank you so much for your time for this interesting interview we're talking to john c. house one international relations expert political analysts also talking about ukraine what else is there to talk about these days sound the future will tell us whether in the you or outside of you thanks very much for that that's it for this edition of.
but i'm a little older we had a very trusting relationship here's a chief but a chief one of this kind who communicates who wants to know the truth. and i could not imagine that the president could communicate like this before i became a president with an after like a brother like a father. you seem to me i'm sure that if at this moment i got struck by lightning. hit me that there are many leaders of the revolutionary. variant that can continue this process.
the east south of ukraine continued to defy the self-imposed in the capital international look at the return of crimea and those who have taken it. right into their own. last months of unpaid bills mean energy hungry industry could be left with. threatening to bury an economy already close to collapse. also. facing execution at home for coming out his gay could see its application for asylum to america rejected supporters say he's a victim of politics. and hundreds come out to condemn the spread of. saying the drilling technique will pollute neighborhoods cause earthquakes.
the week's opening headlines on r.t. international welcome to a monday. life in moscow the east and south of ukraine is seeing a persistent uprising against the post revolution north or at least in the capital . kiev has appointed to govern some of the richest regions of the country say everything is fine and dissent is being dealt with but photos from the streets suggest otherwise this is one of the most recent which have become permanent right near the city of dawn yes thousands of people protesting against kiev self-appointed government there were demanding the release of the people's governor elected by the crowds detained by authorities for suggesting a referendum on the region's status also now in the city of lugansk three
thousand strong crowd located at the local administrating build. and raised a russian flag right above it people's governor was elected there as well that was in lugansk meantime in a group of twelve and fascist march denounced the far right groups coming to power in kiev. all of this coming amid surfacing reports of troops from the west of ukraine moving towards the south eastern regions and in particular that of crimea the peninsula which is holding a referendum on whether to stay part of ukraine soon remains on high alert artie's paullus leader now takes a look at who exactly is guarding its borders every headline the same message the russians are in crimea russia invades crimea russian forces tighten their grip on the black sea peninsula western media seems determined to convince the viewers russian soldiers on the streets of crimea so we decided to take
a look for ourselves who is patrolling the region these are the people we met a minute we are on our own land we protect our own land you need is furious he blames mind on protesters for creating instability in the region that must now be addressed. guys clean your own mess in your own cities clean the mess in your own townships where you live you have no business in crimea this is the headquarters of the volunteers of the self defense squads around the clock leonid dispatches patrols to protect the peninsula there's no way in or out of crimea without him or his men knowing about it or if you want peace you get ready for war. it's a pro russian rallies like this that the volunteers are welcome and there are rumors of some three hundred made on profiteers in the city concern is that they might try to cause trouble the self defense units are made up of former combat soldiers
ordinary civilians wanting to protect their families all of volunteers all come from crimea to try to protect my tangent and crimea from any danger from an extremist interests we're just concerned citizens tonight carlos police officers or public safety officers or deputy sheriffs you re is one of the oldest who signed up for seven. old pensioner should be spending his twilight years relaxing but instead he's out here on the street working twelve hour shifts we follow him home with his eyes well up he's embarrassed for us to see him cry but the retired construction worker is terrified everything he's devoted the last forty five years of his life working towards could be destroyed. for your father to put the i'm a patriot of my homeland and i can't stay away from it i must see it all the little i must be there i'm doing it completely voluntarily around five thousand people have signed up swearing allegiance to the people of crimea the numbers are swinging
back at headquarters leonid tells me another car has been stopped trying to into crimea with hidden weapons for the people of crimea things are now heating up but leonid says they aren't just going to stand by and do nothing policy or r t some for opel and whether they join the self-defense squads or not every service man in crimea will still receive a full salary and other military benefits or ukrainian soldiers who don't want to stay in the region are free to go back to their home cities that's according to crimea's prime minister he spoke ahead of sunday's referendum on whether the region or main part of ukraine the prime minister also promised the region will have to official languages russian and crimean tatar but every nation will be free to use their own language and that includes ukrainian which is used by a minority of locals. while in today's edition of crosstalk artie's people of elena's guest discussing the economic consequences of the coup in ukraine. people
who are going to pay for it are the people that have throughout this entire. last three months have been denied both by the western governments the western press and by the regime that has seized power are the people of the east and south ukraine which in no way shape or form is this government this regime in kiev representative of their interests in fact it is actively doing everything it can to suppress their peaceful political protests now in the east and south of the comments on the press and the lack of report seeing as a journalist i'm actually for the show set the standard reporting in so much as the traditional objectivity to sources has gone out of the window and like always with russia seems to have a special place in this in this. they get very emotional and everyone's affectively
shouting at each other and there's a lot of serious points debates that need to be cleared up in this whole divide before we can actually gets who has any kind of exit from the crisis. meanwhile a number of russian journalists heading for ukraine to cover protests were blocked from entering and it's not just the media a lot of russian citizens themselves are finding a tricky to get into the country and ukraine's border service says over three thousand people were prevented from crossing the border in recent days and those people were dubbed as unwanted of the u.s. has threatened russia with sanctions over what washington sees as threats towards ukraine's sovereignty it's already implemented visa bans and asset freezes for those russians it deems have been involved after barack obama ordered the sanctions the e.u. said it could follow suit but there is reason to believe that european nations may be rather reluctant to follow through on that promise the e.u. is a hoping to gain leverage with these sanctions but what do they stand to lose around
nineteen million russian tourists poor and billions of dollars in the e.u. coffers every year and sanctions could put an end to that cash pipeline speaking of pipelines russia pumps natural gas to europe which accounts for nearly a third of the e.u. supplies russia is also a very lucrative market for european car manufacturers as well and paris struck a one point six billion dollar defense deal with moscow and twenty eleven that will see french warships sent to russia and russians are a major cash cow for britain as well paying hundreds of millions in luxury tax every year to a political analyst patrick henningsen and gave us more reasons why sanctions would be counterproductive. the e.u. has no leverage whatsoever with russia europe is buying gas from russia and europe is paying for that in euro's those euros come back to europe via russia to buy goods and services in europe so germany is
a great beneficiary of this so in terms of any sanctions from the e.u. there's no chance whatsoever it's all bark and no bite you know as far as washington goes if they're if they do impose sanctions it's huge ramifications here for for progress that's made been made globally in the last century and that's the restart of the start treaty in two thousand and ten that's certainly in jeopardy it's regressive it's got no benefits really for today's society the world's moved ahead and seems washington is very keen to drag it back into the past. and with public dissent and a potential break up of his territory and that's looming bankruptcy to consider as well and ukraine is desperately desperately walking to secure massive loans but between a culture of explains the clock is ticking and time is almost up. turn appointed by turmel ukraine as balancing on the verge of default the country's finance ministry
says bankruptcy is the looming asim eating it needs as much as thirty five billion dollars an age by the end of twenty fifteen and it's for dad is round one hundred forty billion while that's nearly eighty percent of the nation's g.d.p. kits gas debt to russia is estimated at almost two billion dollars for last year's and this year's gas deliveries so far without cash may no longer be able to keep its energy industry going putting gas contracts with europe in danger now here is how it works a quarter of you are gas comes from russia ukraine and after numerous warnings russia says it will no longer offer ukraine discounted gas prices starting this april so what if you create fails to deliver on its gas trance a deal well we've been there before back in two thousand and six the pipes were turned off when ukraine did not pay and as gas obligations to russia leaving half
of you were up and the cooled their winter of two thousand and eight and two films and nine brought in other freezing cold following the same reason than gas supplies were hold it again just as demand was at its peak seeking to ensure an injury to gas supplies russia watched alternative gas transit routes to europe well that's north stream operating since two thousand and twelve connects the and russia the baltic sea and that south stream that is planned to be launched by the end of twenty fifteen both of them were planned to bypass ukraine which moscow has decided isn't. now and in its current state and other gas dispute could push off into the financial abyss. and a kiev's post-coup government is hoping that aid packages coupled together by its western backers will save its economy but basic math offers little optimism but they will that's according to the european asset manager erich krauss if you repeat
and offered something like eleven billion over seven years which mostly comes to one hundred million in the united states it's also something like one billion which is less than what ukraine currently owes for gas it has already consumed so it's a bit of a joke this is not going to allow them to survive so eighty fold is only a matter of time we have at least offered by mr coote and rescue package unfortunately the american sudden to. this issue in ukraine has made it into a dead letter. web same as running an alibi timeline of the ukrainian crisis so you find out of the dot com you can also check out the front pages constantly updated with the latest from the crisis stricken country. i was in the steam. it puts everything in.
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a pleasure to have you with us here on t.v. today i'm sure. if you're just joining us welcome to the program her nazi international he could be executed has already received death threats and is pinning his hopes on the u.s. giving him shelter but an openly gay saudi diplomat who are seeking asylum has now been left in legal limbo and some believe it's all about politicking. and investigations. if saudi arabia being gay could be punished by death public lashings or jail time that's the law four years ago the employees of the saudi consulate in los angeles found out that their colleague ali ahmed the sciri is gay saudi arabia has stripped syria of his diplomatic passport and insisted that he
could back to his homeland syria turned to the u.s. government for silence and you would think washington that claims to be vigorously defending gay rights around the globe would at the blink of an eye help this gay saudi man ovoid guaranteed persecution bought up to this day a serious that is has been up in the air and i'm joined by his friend ali ahmed thank you so much for coming thank you and having a diplomat himself is not willing to speak publicly at the moment mr of syria says that if he goes back to his country he could be killed in broad daylight as he said why do you think is he was stalling with his asylum for the united states has is experiencing a. phenomenon where it is willing to violate its own domestic laws to please the saudi monarchy and this is what the obama administration is doing they are ignoring the same principles that they are advocating abroad in their country by denying was tenacity to asylum and trying to deport them actively forty years after he sought
asylum they did obama administration has proved that it does not really care about gay rights more and more than so it cares for the feeling and says to fifty's of the solid you want to thank you for thinking well on top of being gay this saudi man has also openly criticized his country's quote unquote backwardness as well as the role of what he called militant evolves in saudi society and yet saudi arabia is one of america's best friends in the middle east and it is all likely next time president obama warmly greets its ruler. that they will sit down to discuss the treatment of people like you. are just around the corner. exploding part of a daily routine of. the latest suicide attack killed forty. just
a few minutes. what's believed to be the largest ever. was held in the u.k. it was staged in manchester protesters insist the drilling methods pollute neighborhoods and cause earthquakes they say they shouldn't have to rebuild their homes because of corporate greed. reports from the event. well the sun's been signing here in manchester but there's one development that the people taking to the street they don't like and that's the british government was increasing shale gas exploration just a few miles away from where sunday's protest took place barton mills and there is already seen fracking take place say what is fracking hydraulic fracturing or fracking is the controversial technique for recovering gas an oil from shale rock shale gas production is already well underway in the us but stories about water
contamination and earth tremors as a result of fracking have led to growing concern in the u.k. government to try to win support for the expansion of the controversial process by saying it could bring seventy four thousand jobs and more than three billion pounds of investment to the country but not everyone's convinced. i don't feel like. to say washington is god and i don't think there's enough evidence to say. this record is taking place right right here six miles away he's taking place in a residential area here in the states where we've already seen a very very strong evidence because he's removed quite the reality is though with the government firmly behind the industry exploratory drilling in the u.k. will be pushing ahead earlier this year french energy giant take towel announced plans to invest into exploratory wells in the u.k.
despite there being a moratorium on fracking in the country but the actual amount of extractable shale reserves in the u.k. is as yet still unknown public sentiment to over the issue is difficult to gauge a recent poll commissioned by the university of nottingham suggested public support for fracking has been decreasing this is being done by budget and see for a while. to take place in the u.k. so far and certainly hundreds of people as you can think have taken to the streets to join in the rally and as more exploratory drilling begins to take place in the u.k. you could see this until now relatively small anti fracking movement begin to find a louder voice surface r.t. reporting from manchester. fired from want to add one line plenty more stories for you right now what are called including. cutie israeli teenagers sent
a letter to the prime minister refusing to serve in the army ranks because they were a god west bank settlements as quote a violation of human rights find out of r.t. dot com right now. this one is well known nuclear crowd hit the streets of tokyo almost three years since the fukushima disaster demanding that government put an end to atomic energy.
join me. in part and. carry on for me and much. only on. thanks for joining us here on r.t. international i'm wrong. the latest suicide bombing in iraq has left more than forty people dead well over one hundred wounded explosives were hidden in a truck they went off at a checkpoint in the city of hillah during morning rush hour and surgeons are attempting to further destabilize the country ahead of upcoming elections and independent filmmaker chandan says the west's proxies in the gulf monarchies
they're the ones to blame. on the one hand i'm only one if you go means the hotel where the training really counts of the sport horse which they're racing but at the same time who is giving soccer who is giving oxygen to the world it's really it's the regimes based in london and washington and our strew is a proxy in the gold. said. on saudi arabia our act although it's the first time he uses language he said they are at war with iraq through the through the best ones so really the only government is in a terrible situation particularly the people of iraq you know all all traumatic situation are some of the global headlines for your brief time for the r.t. world out there now a multinational rescue team has intensified the search for a missing malaysia airlines plane after the chief investigator dismissed reports that deborah had been found in the sea near vietnam the investigation into what happened is also focusing on two passengers who boarded using stolen passports
a contact was lost with the jet two days ago when it just disappeared from radar it was on its way from kuala lumpur to beijing carrying two hundred thirty nine people . syrian rebels have released a group of about a dozen nuns held captive since december as part of a prisoner exchange deal they were kidnapped following an attack on a christian talon just north of damascus syria's christian minority as well frequently targeted by extremist rebels. and two separate attacks in afghanistan's helmand province over the weekend killed eleven one blast from an improvised explosive device blew up a civilian car carrying members of the same family including two children although driven back by the us and twenty ten the taliban has slowly returned to helmand the locals claim almost eighty percent of the province is again under that group's control. thousands of orthodox jews have held protests in new york over
israel's proposal to force strictly really. just people to serve in the country's army of students of religious schools in israel and not obliged to serve in the military but a proposed draft law would make it compulsory regardless of people's beliefs. i thank you joining us for an aussie international today off to a very short break and we travel straight to crimea to hear from the people of the region and for those of those of you in the u.k. going on the ground. told you my language as well but i will only react to situations i have read the reports from. the pollution and no i will leave it to stapling to comment on your letter telling him to say. ok so you're talking no. thank you no more weasel words. when you need
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defending the law and order we believed in. her and no more laws in ukraine now. jeremy has never surrendered to anyone and it never will. he. did not feel we can see wounded officers from the crimean branch of the right place to spend eighty days in. trying to maintain public order that i have just let you know what that public order was like people with gunshot wounds for example this is a friend. he was shot in both legs there are other officers who also have gunshot wounds to their limbs and some of them have gone concussion endurance and yet i'm the father of one of those guys my son is that he's one of them i think it was an outrage that shooting at police officers. but even more outrageous was
the order they were given a general to carry out their duties without this service goes. i think i should marry the right sector was mounting an attack they started throwing stones at us there was a hail of stones and firebombs people had gone there with axis we tried to hold them back while they tried to provoke us twice we fell back they came forward and started throwing stones there are a lot of injured among us many people suffered injuries to their limbs i. think i think i think they should we stood there with nothing but shields and bottoms of all my officers and i was by coming up like a town full of young men they were shooting us this is their we were talking to the
firing range didn't go we want to shoot that guy let's shoot this one you know about one. month later or so one of the officers the bullet went into his arm and came out of his shoulder should all shots and i have bullet wounds right through both my legs are my protector is a bullet went through one of them. you brought up i was lucky they aim for the knee but my protectress slipped down. and also that they're still saying these people are peaceful demonstrators so that means peaceful people just put a bullet through my leg why would one so many people with. the court fire in less than no time you. think think now they can die it's nice to get a shower this this is we didn't realize we were being shot at until the first officer fell on the middle so there was a second officer went down after him i was alone i was even standing in the first
row. feeling the belt. but you live bullets first officers shields and my fingers are blown off by the pilots so useful bicycle shot it's a nasty thing is that now they're waging an information war against us from us and they insist we had guns or how would so many of us get injured and killed if we were all armed to. keep. keep going you still watch it was a priest just talking marines beefheart cursing jews inciting people against is as if we were all demons everything was against us he said and god is with them what is this some kind of crusade feel free to kill you'll be forgiven anyway. keep those who can guarantee our children safety i will call the parents of each
bill could you not fight a person eye and tell them to stand up for their children if anyone touches my son or his friends i would bloody die tearing them to pieces. i think yes we the people of crimea will rule here and we won't allow folks to seize power. now it's a crime aims let's jones parts of crimea ends parts of crimea ends at one point we realized that the existing government had no control over what was happening in kiev anymore we saw that armed militants in flak jackets with firearms with their faces behind masks were taking over at that moment we realized it was us who had to protect peace and order in crimea and that's why the political party russian unity called for full mobilization to create volunteer groups for the purpose of self defense i'm not going to plan to form just one battalion today but many more people
than we'd expected turns up to a long time during my done was voicing the idea that the southeast of the country was passive and the crimean pacifist well when you put say thought that they could just come here and take over the place and no one would stand up to them but are so far going to zation is a vivid illustration of just how active the crimea is actually are it proves that they really are ready to fight for their rights and legitimate interests. as you know is a truly momentous time in the history of crimea and. i'm asking everyone i'm begging you will please coolio friends relatives neighbors men and women in space should be here with us now i. saw it if i saw it now altogether. crimea. next on people like. a roman shuki of each will never be thought of as heroes by crimea and
our true heroes will always be our grandfathers who set our country free from fascists in one hundred forty five he said. derose portrait hangs inside the kiev administration building will never acknowledge the rule of people who treat him as a hero. noirs among the supporters of the zero might down as we call them here in crimea other people who see. as a role model. at the very beginning of the second world war he joins. groups in ukraine. those groups to hold battalion to the volunteer as. it's about the new and those battalions were called roland to go from the very beginning of the war to nine hundred forty one they became notorious for their ethnic cleansing of the jews russians and poles and live off. course
years it seems the new followers of. the idea of coming out on the streets of kiev shouting with europe. and europe there's not a single neo nazi member of parliament because there are about fifty of them at the moment i'm ukrainian parliament. or. there's no ukrainian power and today everyone must understand that this government is not legitimate and all who live in the town should now make that clear still some. number usually come here from kiev and say he moved here and everything will be done according to his who will be well i don't want to leave like that no i want our people to decide but instead they just come here and give orders. i'm saving my done of service stop it from the scum i want them to stay away from here. how in the country has been
seized by force and we slaves. that's why we have to serve at sevastopol says this law. and as ours we have nowhere to run a country is russia. and we want to say mother russia look at your children was i'm saying sevastopol has never surrendered no one will force us to neo. so i'm asking you to support the candidacy of alexei charlie for the position of town where he's russian to eat thank god we're russians be. still stupid in that look at the peaceful demonstrations that was dope on you no one has bats we don't cover our faces with mass cycling you do why if we look for some reason the peaceful demonstrators of western ukraine all wear masks you can't see the faces of these people you don't know who says what i wish and what to my face is open
a story all the faces of men and women all around me all these people who are here now and who come here every day where no masks shouldn't that proves we're telling the truth speaking from our hearts when you can we're not just dogs who come to break into people's arms and legs and take over buildings were not taken over anything. was was it was that existed to look at what the western ukrainians did in the region which by the way is one of their own western regions we're not even talking now about southeastern parts and sevastopol when you say they handcuff their own governor and force them to his knees how can he reason with these people she was what is there to talk about with people who call themselves true ukrainians ukrainians was was i was her
was her was. was your feel for your time is over can hear what i'm saying to hear me off. what are you doing get your hands off me scum that. i'm going to have to tell the media that the district prosecutor has gone away. he's gone for treatment. he's busted here they really don't want to carry out the g.t.s. if this is not such a true shut up i'm talking to you i'm talking to you ok sit down. i'm asking you bastard do you want me to look you in the cell let me explain explain it to the people you bought that you'll explain to the people on my desk and we'll drag you with a rope into the my den square. that i mean what. my understanding and we're saying
we live in a tolerant country of people look around you this is a tolerant country and these are reasonable people. there is a peaceful demonstration of town. this is sevastopol residents expressing their will see people who live in sevastopol in the neighboring villages have come here there are the courts there's no military men there's no military equipment only ordinary people. would come here any extremists which best while we organize this checkpoint here. this is are here to prevent sevastopol from turning into a second key if that's all. we don't want any demonstrations or nationalists here we don't want them we need sevastopol to be a quiet town and look at what they've done in kiev do you think the people in kiev
are happy. to see it we're not turning violent if something looks suspicious we've. also questions as long as we get all and says it means everything's ok. hello what are you transporting me what chicken meat i see you have doctrines for the goods. yeah ok welcome to sevastopol go on. we have nothing to hide everyone knows our faces is this of a struggle is a small town why would we hide them if you will besides we're not doing anything illegal it's a totally peaceful act it isn't against the little. we're just expressing oh we'll that's all.
accurate cut that was funny but it's closer to the truth and might think. i'm ok it's because one full attention and the mainstream media works side by side the joke is actually on the you're going to be coming back. at our teen years we have a different approach to the good o. out because the news of the world just is not this funny i'm not laughing dammit i'm not ok i've. got to stick to the jokes that will handle the things that i've got to. right. first strike. and i think you're.
i i i i. i. what do you stand for we're for ukrainian unity for peace and freedom in ukraine but you'll find that ukrainian is the crimea into turf like look there's a ukrainian flag our hearts are with ukraine i tell us there are two groups of people here we have crimean tatars on one side and people from the russian speaking population and the other is this is the way it's sort of a big peaceful discussion the situation right. they became quite tense that there was some clashes that actually was was was was
was was was out talks of brothers don't understand that the ukrainian government has been deceiving both us and them for twenty years now i thought was with was i don't understand what they've been darrius all the racetrack is doing here on our crimean peninsula is clear why there should be a russian and tatar flats like what on earth does by derry has to do with crane here it's beyond comprehension although i see supine been darent as a traitor and a fascist even more interesting though that the flag was raised right beside the crimean tatar flags that can only mean that they support nationalism and they support been there at some five hundred thousand bandara followers of taken over the whole of ukraine thousands putin waiting for the russians will be purged from
crimea in any case down with fascism i b. b. b we would now we're all gathered together here to offer moral support for our guys the soldiers of the book of riot police by being here we want to show them that they're not alone not physically and not morally that they have not been abandoned and that we will never desert them in this cruel world where so many people are trying to make them look bad we want to declare to the world we want to surrender all the good guys to all of us the good riot police officers are heroes. there was there was. if you could see the reaction of the crimean population you could even see how
russian people react to a pos think i'll just carrying a bucket officer. at the must see this is our son our third one it was only cheerful. he was always smiling my young had dimples on his cheeks when he smiled oh and ever since he was a very small child he said to me as a chance i could donate and i said what are you talking about because it should be any answer we've broken up for barricades was surrounded by don square now regarding it i can't talk much longer i have thirty officers and six of them have already been sent to hospital or. snipers he was shot through the neck my sniper a little my rates really a car
a good hour train and it was impossible to save him. he had to hide shave to eat it reads to the tally from a grieving fiance. put on a full rich addy my dear a bit early action. why are those strangers shooting children. real worker who had a premonition it was the last day he called me and said dad terrible things are happening here i don't know the words to explain it all to you properly it's everything has been destroyed the cobbled road has been torn up and they're throwing the cobblestones from the road right at us i said but how do you know shelter from that bully just make a wall with our shields we are unable to do anything else that was the last
conversation we are ahead and seven forty and then by ten past nine it was gone. we just see everybody has families and children of people hasn't had their salaries or pensions for two months that's tough just what is next to someone like you we want to normal life one time to reach some kind of consensus and if they can do that is seriously asking to be part of russia because today it's not just about talking for you today there are real enemies knocking on our doors we're asking we're begging russia not to forget about us. we're asking for how to close you know my ship.
in the event of a critical situation developing would russia be able to give us a passport to we were to insist on getting russian citizenship. ladies and gentlemen i want to tell you that at the moment the process of obtaining russian citizenship is the same as it was before there have been no changes. there are any changes we will inform you in due course she would usually. think oh thank you to protect us thank you. here it was. put on you please i can come here for the whole days they can come here from western ukraine america when they want to see site break but they will never be able to keep me quiet because they will never be able to make me speak in a language that i don't want to speak once they get on principle you blogging when you know they will never force me the way they forced our guys to they knees
actually got that. they forced our barrack at officers and all the un team i don activists and protests. asterisk to kneel and sing the ukrainian national anthem. i was one of those who returned like those from kiev by bus so i'll get straight to the worst part of the story i sold two buses that have been battered before they got to ours. but we try to persuade them to let us pass through because well we were travelling to a peaceful demonstration. but they just started pulling people out through the windows to get before that they've thrown gasoline filled bottles out. the doors were already opened on those animals were behind the bus and shouting to us come out we're going to kill you they started to trickle south some guys began to jump
off and the first of them were beaten up really badly it was awful it was really scary. then they made us hold our hands like this and move in a squat position while we shouted out their slogans but show us a bit to show the first we were made to shout that we had disgraced the nation and then flory to ukraine or to be heroes then they forced us to pick up shards of glass from the windows that they'd broken while we had to seem to create a new national anthem at the same time. a. third thought. let's hope will be simple there were two women on our boss me and another who was also called janice everyone was making jokes about that to. get a study and they dropped us off on the motorway and sad girls get there on your all
it's just that we were all really wanted and i couldn't take it any more why and finally called the boss manager and he whispered to me shoosh way just sitting here sound. thing terrible is going on seven people our own dad. we were just terrified says. the celis. student. says. this little. business we will discuss. this is.
the road was blocked by a harvester it was impossible to get through. to find a peaceful solution but they didn't agree they started throwing bottles molotov cocktails right at the bus there on the motorway. they were all carrying beat up everybody who's getting off the bus having them to the ground where they get me in the ribs with a stick and then they used reinforcing rods on my head. my face was completely covered in blood and i was just lying there with blood flowing. they said head spin and then they carried on kicking a good. bit of. god that would. be good but it was basically the same force belt area but there were no bends in the
road. out of the buses bunch of people like this one did and we were leaving well we were running away to be more precise. the fields in the forest it was wet on the ground was very cold and damp. what changed it was very hot i'm still stressed out by it i can't sleep for more than three hours and then i wake up i wake up in a cold sweat at night i think that we were very lucky to have come back alive it was pure luck. which they did my four year old son recently asked me mom this is war in may done in ukraine in kiev the over. cheers to my eyes i wrote down this very least i want
peace in our country so that my children never have to ask me questions like that as never have to know why people die. it wasn't a steam purse. it puts everything into. letting go of those identities for me is important. part of it is protecting it's somebody they would make a brother to but then if they really knew your story. they'd kill you. there's me before crazy huh.
an honest nice to meet you my name is june what's your name my name is geoffrey. they all told me my language as well but i will only react to situations i have read the reports to the pollution and no i will leave them to the state department to comment on your latter point i come on to say it's. a car as are you talking no god. no more weasel words when you vade a direct question be prepared for a change when you draw a punch be ready for a battle pretty speech and