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mark mark. you created self-appointed prime minister is brewing in washington with a visit to secure america's support and a financial lifeline. it's against the law. to provide that kind of package to a government that has been around it's a military coup but critics say washington's willingness to give aid to ukraine's new leadership is actually. the g seven condemns russia over supporting crimea's referendum claiming it ukraine's sovereignty on europe to question the leadership's legitimacy and its alleged crime . a massive blast two buildings to collapse in new york two people are dead and several injured in the incident. and the headlines the botched cleanup and
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the continuing contamination three years on from the earthquake and tsunami report on the fears that radiation from fukushima is still spreading. from a studio center in moscow this is all to international with twenty four hours a day. washington's welcoming ukraine's opposition leader turn to prime minister to secure american allegiance to the country's current leadership the u.s. will also send a dozen fighter jets to nato bases in poland and lithuania by thursday now that is apparently to enforce exercises in response to the turmoil in ukraine the pentagon describes the move as making it crystal clear to american allies in the region that the u.s. stands by them as their leaders flex their military muscles it appears more than
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half of americans who were polled would prefer not to get involved in the crisis and has more in this. ukraine's cool pointed interim prime minister did signal comes to the u.s. capitol for a public show of mutual affection this is showing public support by the most powerful country in the world to an unelected prime minister who seized power illegally but they hope to gain legitimacy through this international arena the u.s. involvement in the ukrainian crisis reaches far and wide despite loud words about rooting for democracy and the ukrainian people deciding their own future you've seen us open ukraine foundation has nato and the department of state as official partners and he's a frequent visitor to the us where his sister reportedly a prominent scientologist resides on the west coast the politician was discussed in the infamous leaked newland phone conversations where american politicians played out favorable scenarios for the west as if on a chess board i think he is the guy who's got the economic experience the governing
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experience he's the he's the guy you know what he needs his cleats into a book on the outside he needs to be talking to them four times a week this prime minister we know is the favorite choice by victoria nuland representing the state department because the rest of the ukrainian government the new government is loaded with fascist and semi fascist during the chaos on raveling in kiev nato and u.s. officials paraded my don distributing snacks to the protesters and meeting with the new to the fine tunes of italian pop songs about a beautiful future ahead. today the u.s. has already gone in headfirst into putting ukraine's finances in order. here in ukraine experts from the justice and the treasury who are working very hard then against supporting questionable governments that beaver it's geo political strategy is nothing new for the u.s. if you want. the foreign policy of the u.s.
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. and. international group. but it doesn't deviate from or there is no double standard the behavior of the us i won't be able to do that while in washington d.c. our city is getting a warm welcome from barack obama making appearances at the u.s. congress and spending time with the heads of the i.m.f. and the world bank the new prime minister crane is the i am manning and that's how it should be viewed that's been his track record for the last ten years he's wanted to do the bidding of the i.m.f. the world bank the german banks in other words he's a client or a proxy of the same forces that want to integrate ukraine into the now for the benefit of the ukrainian people but in order to make money arguably dragging ukraine right into the west's proper tearing under the u.s. guise of an honest attempt to help and party washington d.c. . the g seven is calling on russia to stop supporting crimea as the republic
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prepares to vote on independence from ukraine the group says it won't recognize the results of the referendum russia though is urging europe to look closer into the events which brought the former opposition to power and investigate alleged crimes let's get more details now from marty's point boy more tough talk this time from the g. seven so tell us more about what this group of nations is actually saying. well the g seven along with the e.u. leaders have called on russia to cease all efforts to change the status of crimea so they've said that it would be against ukrainian and international war they the most menacing phrase from the statement says that they are prepared to take further action individually and collectively they've also announced that plans to attend the upcoming g. eight summit in sochi in june on ice until they can really come together to some sort of agreement over ukraine now we know from angola merkel that the e.u.
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effectively signed the political part all the association agreement with ukraine as early as next week and yet the view from moscow is that throughout this crisis russia has been pushing for the european union and the european leaders to question the legitimacy all. to ship here before getting to parley with them so to say moscow floated the idea of launching an even use rope to investigate extremists lines that were perpetrated by the former ukrainian opposition in independence square during the standoff that the president also seek to examine the legitimacy old new ukrainian leadership but despite beating the drum for this throughout this crisis really very little has happened r.t. spoken to one russian m.p. that been pushing for this investigation and consultations with the council of
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europe. we agreed to certain things one is that talks should continue there will be unofficial visits from the european parliament delegates to to the russian duma to the council of the federation we agreed that there should be an independent investigation on what happened in clear from my done on all the deaths in ukraine during this whole revolutionary situation we also agreed that there is a concern the growing concern of naziism in ukraine. now it's not just russia that's questioning the actions of the ship in kiev let's take a listen to of according between the stony and foreign minister foreign policy chief catherine ashton. so that series i was stronger and stronger understanding that behind snipers they were it was not going to call rich but it was somebody from the
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new coalition. now the all the authenticity of this leaked recording has already been confirmed by the stony and foreign ministry and despite this it's made very few ripples in the western media area it certainly hasn't prompted the g seven leaders to question their alignment to the new leadership in kiev so my bet is that there is just seven threats and talk of sanctions is only going to be getting louder in the coming days ali thanks very much indeed for that update that's all she's pretty boy that well western governments denouncing crimea as push for independence from ukraine present rather mixed signals let's look at some other examples of where seeking self rule seems far less contentious in europe in six months from now scotland will decide whether to quit the united kingdom and the noise from abroad or that one similar sentiments have been brewing in catalonia for decades yet spain's prime minister rejects any
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talk of letting the country's wealth use region go the international community is totally quote there too but one bid for independence that was successful in europe back in two thousand and eight kosovo voted to carve itself out of serbia a decision backed by washington well the head of and of course we have a course of a coming up for you there on screen apologies for the delay in those graphics now ron paul we have a spokesman for the ron paul institute for peace and prosperity he senses there is a great deal of hypocrisy here. it's very funny you know former ambassador to moscow michael mcfaul was was tweeting away about crimea is not kossovo madeline albright former secretary of state has chimed in as well it is kind of interesting to see people who supported a lawless coup in the streets of kiev now all of a sudden being the. strongest sticklers for every point ukrainian constitution the point to be made is the double standards of the us and the hypocrisy of the us the
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us was endlessly going on about the will of the albanian people and costs of zero and how they have a right to express their their view and their will and how their own future and now when the shoe is on the other foot in a place that they don't want to break away they're saying the same they're saying something very very different which is they don't have the right to do these things so the hypocrisy is more important than whether or not they have the right to do this washington is also promising ukraine a billion dollars in aid to help the country's ailing economy but as russia's foreign ministry has pointed out that actually goes against us lol america's foreign assistance act forbids throwing a financial lifeline to a government whose leader was deposed by trends i know this gerald celente told us this isn't the first time washington has broken its own rule. let us not forget that the united states still approve their one point three billion dollar loan package to egypt and it's against the law to provide that kind of
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package to a government that has been overthrown it's a military coup but the united states still does not call what happened in egypt a military coup and they're certainly not calling this that either the fact is a democratically elected government like them or not was overthrown and now the new prime minister is be is coming to the united states to meet with president obama from an illegitimate government so you can see international law local law state law federal law the law is on your side when you wanted the word justice by the way it's being miss it's j u.s.t. us just us when they need to use it justice when they want to use it against you. so in four days from now ukraine's southern region of crimea will decide where its future lies security is tight ahead of sunday's referendum with unidentified
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soldiers calling themselves self defense squads patrolling the streets but several major news outlets are insistent that they are russian troops assisting to take over russian military helicopters and planes are entry in ukraine and russian forces have seized crimea's airports the u.s. intelligence community and nato are urgently trying to figure out what the russians may do next moscow says its troops in the region not only those belonging to russia's black sea fleet permanently based there and that there are no reinforcements from in officials maintain that the most men are volunteers self defense forces is an interview circulating online with one of their commanders shedding light on who they are. why do you think these are russian military forces i won't tell you where exactly these guys come from and who they are but i can assure you very soon you'll be surprised when you find out their crimean i'm crimean two i'm standing right here because i was led down by the
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people who are supposed to protect us we don't want to fight with anyone but the police are simply unfit to keep order or analysis and update on the crane as well as people's own stories are online for you including why a ukrainian navy sailor chose to quit when he returned from his latest mission. to new york apartment blocks of collapse after a massive explosion in central park officials suspect a gas leak caused the blast which has killed two people and left dozens others injured to put in there is in new york. a reported two hundred firefighters are currently on the scene in east harlem battling to put out the fire and evacuate anyone who may still be caught under piles of debris as of now officials say at least two people were killed after two five story buildings collapsed around nine thirty wednesday morning at one hundred sixteenth street and park avenue in the n.y.p.d. says the incident is not linked to terrorism now before the blast occurred con-ed
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the city's electric company was reportedly heading to the scene responding to calls about a gas leak now the force of the morning blast was so strong that it ended up blowing out windows belonging to other buildings in the area now the explosion shook the entire neighborhood with many people running for cover and others actually began filming we've heard from one witness who was just one block away when the incident occurred there's a lot of smoke in the air it's the smell of smoke is pretty heavy right here on one hundred sixty five park and i could see the smoke all the way down at one hundred second when i started walking out here but everybody's really orderly lots of people of course. pictures and video and even like the fire department trucks but they can't get any more of them closer to the so there are a lot of firefighters were still going in on the first responders have instructed
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residents and anybody working in the area to stay indoors and keep windows closed because as we just heard this eyewitness say that smoke until it continues to engulf the entire neighborhood it's not clear what type of toxins may be in the air what kind of debris may be floating around so it's probably best for for everyone safety to stay indoors keep windows closed if they do not have to be outside. still to come on r.t. international the battle for british police trying to prevent young people from being sent juiced into insurgency that's all four people arrested on related charges connected to the syrian rebellion and that's one of the stories of the bright. line investigation of the fishing industry. reveals what fish farms waters. bonamy because. i saw it spread all over norway is the
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the operator of japan's fukushima nuclear power plant says it might eventually have to dump hundreds of thousands of tons of contaminated water into the pacific ocean it's been three years since the nuclear disaster but tepco is still struggling to clear up with occasional radioactive leak still happening he's been following the disaster since it began. anywhere now well within the no go zone we're just ten kilometers from the nuclear power station these houses ravaged by the tsunami still standing here being restored.
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one of the frightening things about this entire incident is that there are no concrete boundaries that can clearly guarantee your safety. it's hard to say what gives you a creepier feeling the trail of destruction left by the twenty eleven tsunami all the houses untouched by natural disaster but the band after the nuclear accident. just to give you an idea of the consistency right now the diagram is really three point two nine micro ringgits which is about thirty times what is more than the accepted level but if you come down here to where the soil and a lot of it's collected the radiation quickly jumps out and it's still climbing earlier we got a reading of ninety nine in my career which is about a thousand times more than one in the accepted level of state for the nation. the place where i'm at right now more than ten thousand people are currently living . the earthquake
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and tsunami which hit japan in march two thousand and eleven led to a massive radioactive leak six months later it turned out that twice as much radiation was released the initial estimates by october two thousand and twelve the operator tepco finally admitted it failed to implement safety improvements that led to the meltdown that a year ago recalled radiation levels were found in local fish it was real three months later that the cause was radioactive water leaking from a stored. time well last august tepco confessed that around three hundred tons of highly radioactive water had leaked from fukushima since two thousand and eleven christina consoler researches the effects of nuclear incidents and she says the fukushima cleanup efforts a poorly managed. many of the things that they're doing at the fukushima site are purely cosmetic too. to have the appearance that there is some
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kind of decommissioning going on you have a massive amount of water that's being poured and collected in tanks in those tanks are failing and so at some point a decision is going to need to be made about what they're going to do with the water in those tanks because the goal is to keep the workers on the site long as possible so that they can try to mitigate any problems that occur from failures in all of their systems. thousands have been running in tokyo protesting against the nuclear industry for she would disaster created up to three hundred thousand refugees it's taken sort of says that these people might never return. according to the japanese government they're trying to move people back into some of those areas because they've done decontamination which people who have worked on the decontamination process if stated you know that it hasn't worked and we know just from bomb testing that even hydrochloric acid doesn't remove radiation so i think
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that you know that that is false information that's being perpetuated by the japanese government no way to try to a stage people's fears. it looks like fracking is again on shaky ground this time in the american state of ohio which has been hit by a series of tremors recently garmin to this point to the dozens of nearby drilling wells for the controversial gas extraction method the story right now it'll take. plus find out what award winning journalist says quote the american media john c.b.s. up to more than twenty years of dedicated work. right from the scene. first rate. and i think you're. on our reporters there in. an instant.
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to be in the. britain has arrested three men and a woman on suspicion of heading to syria to support extremist fighters there and face terror related charges that could land them with life in jail there's been a rise in such a arrests in the u.k. where police fit returning terrorists will then conduct attacks on british soil when in total nearly two thousand europeans have traveled to syria to fight france is the biggest source of volunteers with an estimated seven hundred germany and belgium have each seen around three hundred people had to the war torn region and as for the u.k. police say there are two hundred fifty british jihadists they have now returned back home and could carry out terror attacks there were smith reports from london. what's happening in these muslim families it seems is that people are seeing someone becoming more and more radicalized thinking possibly about going to fight in syria whether it be a brother or a sister or even a friend and rather than going to. their local mosque which is what they might have
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done in the past they're going outside what is often a very close knit community and going to the police who often are seen as essentially the enemy and reporting that to the police with all the implications that that brings including rest and even potential imprisonment so it's obvious that the muslim community if we can call them that as a whole kind of thing it's very worried about the threat of people going to fight in syria now this information comes straight from the horse's mouth from the metropolitan police assistant commissioner quested dick she's been talking about these families coming forward and saying to the police that we're worried about somebody we think that they might be next step might be to go and fight in syria and as a result of that at least in parts in britain we've seen more serious related arrests in just this portion of two thousand and fourteen that we've that we've already had in the whole of two thousand and thirteen so it's certainly an increasing problem
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in this country in response to that there has been a change in police strategy. says that families community leaders and police are working better together they've changed their tactics they have had a fall in terrorism related stop and search for they're no longer really targeting people on the streets and also fewer major operations which haven't been all that successful in the past. around the world now for some other global headlines this police in two of turkey's major cities ankara and istanbul have used tear gas and water cannon furious protesters as thousands took to the streets in the funeral of a fifteen year old monday after being in a coma since june after being hit by police to a gas canister during an anti government uprising his family insist he was not a protester and was only buying bread became a focus for anger over the heavy handed response to rallies against the prime minister. places their forces denying claims that the missing passenger jet was
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seen on radar diverting from its planned route before vanishing the air force chief said that it's possible the plane may have turned back in asia airlines flight m h three seven zero from kuala lumpur to beijing disappeared on saturday with two hundred thirty nine on board an international search is widened with at least forty ships and thirty four aircraft. militants have been killed in southern afghanistan after the insurgents tried to storm a former intelligence headquarters it's parked a fierce gun battle with security forces and we got it kandahar is the birthplace of the hardline taliban movement a militant still manage to enter the city. the twenty four team paralympics are seeing russia build up a solid lead with a record breaking medals haul and that's on top of the winter olympic success but all the host country restore its games reputation what today's competitions all team russia smash its own records taking its medals tad eight to forty seven that's eight more than his previous top total sixteen goals are among them another record
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for the host nation not seen since italy in two thousand and six right now the curling is on the way between norway and russia and we'll follow the results and let you know how they get on. i want international law for most good wolf we just have a whole for now from now in the meantime when it comes to meal times it seems that we call get enough fish but next one it could pay you to be more careful when sourcing your seafood. you know patients in syria are opting to be knocked unconscious with metal bars because there are no anesthetics. in the u.k. the governor of the bank of england is doing something similar bashing the markets with a crowbar because there's no monetary policy in the bank of england's tool box which
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can put this bad debt to sleep fast and live or fraud gold fix fraud is the fix for a and now for x. market fraud it's fraud is all whacked out back to the market trying to defraud the market to say no more. your friend post a photo from a vacation you can't afford. the difference. the boss repeats the same old joke of course you like. your ex-girlfriend still pens tear
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jerking poetry keep jobs nora's. post only what really matters. to your facebook news feed. basic needs of. economic ups and downs in the final months day belong to the old sang i and the rest that life it's a neat take it will be every week on all things. the
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baltic is one of the most polluted seas in the world. and some of the species they catch there have become toxic contaminating the pellets but also the entire food chain. in sweden i have an appointment with jan isaacson he's a greenpeace activist. he brings me to a fish up to buy fish caught in the region. so i'd like some herrings and sound like something. but before selling them to us the fishmonger is going to say something rather surprising she's warning us about her own merchandise it's not very funny and these supposed to be caring you should be careful and are very much aware of the more than at the most. and it's the same thing with you. and if you're pregnant you shouldn't eat the fish from the baltic at all. if she gives this warning it is thanks to the work of jan and the swedish
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government which has started giving public health forming against eating baltic fish especially fatty fish like salmon or herring. and. its contents. higher level so science and it's one of the most powerful toxic pollutants not that we know today and extremely low level so it's going to have a face on your home a form of systems that's. cause counselor. to find the source of this pollution we don't have to look very far. so this is a let's try on this morning room. just an hour's drive outside of stockholm to this chemical plant which turns swedish trees into paper.
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paper mills like this is historically one of the main sources of. pollution so. it's quite natural to find it's in here and high concentrations here. these chemicals then move up the food chain. the more fatty the fish the more the pollutants are absorbed into the flesh some such as pesticides or p.c.b. these are never eliminated and are called persistent organic pollutants. moving up the food chain they concentrate more and more in the fatty tissues. at the end of the chain a kilo of tuna or salmon is much more toxic than a kilo of small fish. consequently some fatty fish from the baltic have become unfit for consumption. so they are harder to find on the consumer's plate. so they find themselves in heavy
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demand in the market for making dry pellet fish feed. and that's where the toxicity builds up. back to in the dry pellet feed plant. to process the fed fish finials and cooks them in these large of a. at the end of the line he obtains two very different products firstly protein powder and second place fish oil. these two ingredients are used to come up with the finished product and each of them in their own way will contribute to the contamination of the pellets. let's begin with the oil. by concentrating in the fatty parts excel or it's the build up of the pollutants. this is why farmed fish are more susceptible than wild fish. protein powders
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in turn pose another problem even worse. it's at the end of the line that i find it in this large chemical container. the antioxidant ends up in the protein powder here. it's called a fox and. it's not seeking a product that finials and uses extensively but apparently he doesn't know anything about. what is it used for what happens if you don't. i don't know what it is i just know i have to put it in. why is this mysterious chemicals used and does it pose a threat to consumers. this is the story of one of the best kept secrets of the food processing industry. at first glance a toxic ian has no place in
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a food factory. the product was registered in one nine hundred fifty nine by monsanto the giant u.s. chemical company in the category of pesticides. it was used to treat rubber but also fruits and vegetables. its use is strictly regulated and limited. what is it doing in fish feed. the answer can be found in switzerland in geneva in this anti-fraud laboratory. two years ago patrick edgar and d.d. or telly were surprised to find a tux again in the flesh of farmed fish in extremely high levels. well above the fifty micrograms per kilogram permitted in foodstuffs. a reference value is fifty so we're looking at this level. and will see that in our
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fish the measurements are ten to twenty times more than the standard because concentrations are between five hundred and eight hundred or nearly a thousand micrograms per kilogram have been found. they're extremely higher than the norm so they're a lot higher than the norm we don't see that in wild fish this is logical since they're not fed fish meal on the other hand all the fish coming from the aquaculture industry are contaminated with the king. before them nobody had ever thought to look for a toxic eating fish and for good reason the product is supposed to protect fruits and vegetables but meal manufacturers have found another use for it. i don't know in fact it's put into fishmeal which prevent the fat much at present from becoming rancid that's ensuring the quality of the fats. the problem is that the manufacturers of the dry meal pellets did not notify the health authorities of the
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change and use. the result that toxic in levels are strictly controlled in fruits and vegetables and even meat but not in fish. is paradoxical that there are standards set for cattle and chickens but no standards for fish even more so you can find standards set for kangaroos for reptiles but none at all for fish. and patrick enter. made an even stranger discovery. the effects of a toxic keen on human health of actually never been evaluated by the yes as a european food safety agency. i mean milk and a lot of things are missing or you take a hard look at the resort concerning a long term toxicity and aspects related to cancer and no valid studies have been submitted concerning the levels of toxicity in reproduction or fetal development sure you did look no valid studies have been submitted on neuro toxicity this is the you know after all e.f.-s.
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a could not even establish an acceptable daily intake level because it claims it was not able to calculate it due to insufficient data sets if such a substance is to be introduced to the marketplace it certainly shouldn't have been done using such weak study it is true to see for. only one serious study has been published it comes from a norwegian researcher. one not that we have found almost nothing is it except this these this which was written in norway. i decided to track down this researcher. she defended her thesis in bergen and western norway in this state research institute the n i f e s. however since then she has lost her job there so i found her at home. working with the toxic in victoria bone at first discovered that nobody not even the manufacturer monsanto had any idea of the effects of this chemical on human
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health. i think. you know when asked if it was a safe product say it's false they just assumed that it wouldn't pose a problem and that's not the case have been investigated no. that's crazy you're not supposed to put something off without investigation. yes. after several years of work she made six major discoveries concerning this product each one more disturbing than the others. if they go through the i discovered that a fox sequinned has the power to cause the blood brain barrier to know about. this barrier has a very important function. that it exists as a physical means to protect the brain from toxic substances. barrier for.
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ticks or a substance no foreign substance to the human body is supposed to be able to pass through it into the brain this is. yes so that's really bad yes. of course and this is this coverage should have been published as quickly as possible so that's possible yes. every day her opinion brain contamination but also probable carcinogenic effects. the problem is that over the last few years victoria bone hasn't been able to publish any of her results in a scientific journal. you know. because i'm no longer employed at the institute i lost my status as a researcher and suddenly i didn't have the right to publish my scientific research . at the end of her thesis that despite her many discoveries victoria bone had
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indeed left the state research institute. voluntarily. but i was about to discover that the reality was a bit different from the official version. because i because i finally decided that i no longer wanted to deal with this question anymore father having this affair my wife you have to say you have six for vacation ribby you seem like you want to publish it this infrastructure. didn't like. if you take that out then they can talk just about this. off camera victoria boom confirms that she had been pressured and there were even some attempts to falsify some of her results. in the hope of finding
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a job and one day publishing her research she chose not to denounce these practices in the media. but others have done so before her because she was not the first to been forced out. in two thousand and six this woman. also a researcher at the end i f e s had also measured the presence of hazardous substances in salmon. in a norwegian newspaper she had accused her superiors and the ministry of fisheries of pressuring her and falsifying her findings. spinning ukraine with the crimea and said to vote on their status the west continues to threaten russia with sanctions how long will this standoff last and
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hasn't washington already blinked. not a trip to syria next time germany hamas now life and hearts plane. took place right on the scene. of the first strike you and i were being butchered. on our reporters twitter. and instagram. to be in the know. on the odd.
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think well. science technology innovation all the latest developments from around russia we've got the future covered. four years ago research funding for a toxic een was cut by the norwegian ministry official race. and according to kurt decision may have been made under pressure from the minister of fisheries herself. she is also to author of the food security system that's controlling to feed the fish from diseases and there she controlled state food authorities who control of all things that has to do with fish for me in norway and she uses her powar in a bad manner so she gives them sort of to take down this fish this this is take it don't for one two two so we can sell the fish so we'll lose money if we have to
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sell the fish so they sell their fish that's infected and then i'm sick and that's never been before she is a rotten piece of and this story. to verify these accusations i decided to speak with this minister. in brussels in the aisles of a trade show i have an appointment with her for a five minute interview but the time allotted to me will be much shorter. to put a new face and he said you're trying to do some research about the substance called it took six feet but this it will have the money completes you to fund some research about the toxic we. don't know. that i think three i think and i mean we're here to look at the phoenix i think that's like i said i think we're done quickly the communications officer puts an
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end to the interview with me i'm sorry to say that i think that's my question and i think that that satellite got a book a book there he takes. the minister does not wish to talk about. she claims to know nothing about it question. however if we take the time to check her c.v. which is posted on the ministry's website we learn that she worked for four years as a consultant for. the world leader in dry fishmeal just before being hired as a consultant to the ministry of fisheries. since then she has held dozens of jobs in the salmon industry and has even led one of the main lobbies the f.h.l. professional union and according to kurt. there is still some missing information from her impressive c.v. . the management authorities have their own interests
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in fish for me she's only eight percent of a big fish farm and her director is only twenty percent of another fish farm so this is what we call corruption and this is like the italian mafia. the accusation may be outrageous but the facts are there hidden by a simple financial arrangement it was enough for me to examine the records of this company called j m j invest. the minister is the major shareholder. and j m j invest actually possesses more than ten percent of a major norwegian salmon farm of which several other shareholders are members of the minister's family. toxic fish researchers muzzled a minister with a conflict of interest i left norway a little surprised by what i had just learned. but my investigation is not quite
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finished yet. i still have to discover how these fish sometimes make it to our plates without us even knowing it. all it takes is for a manufacturer to decide to discreetly mislabel a product exactly as what happened in the horsemeat scandal. in blown so male the main french fishing port some companies are not happy just selling fish. they also produce a product totally unknown to consumers which are widely used in prepared dishes. this day a shipment of cod from the baltic arrives on one side to fillet the piling up on the other the waste which will not last. the season what are you for living here is a small college. who sells all works for a company specializing in the processing of fish waste field off it's not up for
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you so what is the caution that has been removed in this case it's a kludge when you see that there's still a lot of flesh that can be extracted by pumping for use in processed foods such as for example the like. so it gives added value to what was previously regarded as waste only a few years ago. and today it's become a highly valued resource. diffuse a. highly valued and most importantly not very expensive these remains which are processed into our prepared meals are bought by loose for less than fifteen cents a kilo. some of them are loaded into these refrigerated containers others go directly into these dump trucks and are transported to this plant where nothing is lost.
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firstly the fish skins are recovered for use in the cosmetic industry. as to the heads and the flesh that remains attached to the bones they are sent to be processed in this workshop. but when we arrived all of the machines had been turned off. even though it's pretty clear that they had recently been in use but just before our visit to. boss of the plant ordered the production line to be shut down . so if the workshop for sage's doesn't bother him he's just afraid that consumers would be shocked if they saw what the pulp looks like. we still managed to film what the boss wanted to avoid being shown with a hidden camera in another workshop. it's of this pope machine in action crushing the waste and extracting the shapeless mash and not very appetising substance which is called the pulp. once
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washed here's what the finished product looks like this one was made from the remains of a fatty fish truck. full can that be used for for example it's usually used in prepared meals but also in a lot of pet foods in what. what is any force feeding dogs and cats. the advantage of this product is first and foremost its price the pope sells for around one year or thirty per kilo ten times cheaper than a fish so it's really in demand for food manufacturers especially since they're not required to indicate on their products labels that they contain paul. a plant which makes prepared meals in western france. this morning fraud control teams make a surprise inspection. mr emerick head
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of the social protection department hello welcome. joe michel and if he came to inspect the stocks of this famous brand food processing company and this cotton potato pie he wants to check its composition. so. this is the list of ingredients you have for water cod twenty three percent made up of explosive me of cod and salt so the professionals job is to determine if there is indeed twenty three percent of the pure product in this musical jury. to determine just how much your product in a manner of speaking when a prepared meal is labeled for example made with cod without adding the words fish fillet it is usually made with pulp. but. when you cut off the edges and you take sample pieces from the middle. zone michelle emily wants to check that the composition of the pulp block corresponds to what is indicated on
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the label. some blue over the shoulder four so here we have a block of fish fish suitable you're just going to compress because it's a frozen product so obviously it's easier to hide other fish species you know just by mixing them in with the cod and it would be if they were presented as fearless. because it was until today. after the horsemeat scandal fish is also in the sights of the fraud control department. the samples are sent for d.n.a. analysis to the must say national analysis laboratory led by frontal excel to. thank you thank them to find fish is a long and complex process. according to a recent u.s. study one out of three fish labels is misleading and that's the case with our hopes not to go there to specify. the it says there are several things and.
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this shows there's a part of pacific cod what would you and there are three parts of alaskan politics as we see here on the alaskan pollock comparison you could get and also roughly speaking we have pacific cod and alaskan halakhah yes but alaskan pollock hasn't. you mention it as an ingredient you know so that's illegal says if you know no money it's an anomaly not to have the professional explain the possible origin of the alaskan pollock in the pulp of this raw material that we shouldn't exclude the possibility of the accidental origin of the fish or simply the fact that alaskan pollock is cheaper than the pacific cod which could be a case of fraud. and you also have another kind of possible fraud which would be passing off the farmed fish as a wild one also wash. in place of caught. in pulp species substitutions are much more frequent and pose
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a problem of traceability. today the entire fish industry may be affected by these health concerns. so much so that some health professionals are completely changing their viewpoints concerning fish. maurice a is an oncologist today he is hosting an awareness raising workshop on the causes of cancer for these women all of whom are affected by the disease. our goal is not to go after the guilty parties but rather to take measures that will help prevent recurrence. and among the many causes that may lead to cancer fish has become one of his concerns. for the simple advice don't eat much big fish like salmon or tuna you know if not more than once or twice a month if you should eat small fish rich in omega three so if possible for someone who has breast cancer i would recommend small fish but the person. eating fish may
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affect my health is that what you're saying yes yes before it was good because of its measurable constituents that you know maybe three piece in particular and vitamin d. that you weren't given a second full of cod liver oil going your childhood for nothing because it was rich in vitamin d. and. but beneficial to your health that it enabled but suddenly we find fish that is full of pesticides and mercury and if it's fish from finland we know that there is a lot of radioactivity still twenty years after chernobyl but of course so it's fish that shouldn't eat and it's fish that's full of radioactivity mercury and heavy metals p.c.-b.s.d. dioxins etc etc it's just not the same anymore so the message has to be different because unfortunately things have changed. for thirty years the french health authorities had encouraged unlimited fish consumption. this summer they lowered
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their recommendations. no more than two servings of fish per week one way to prevent or anticipate what could be our next food scandal. spinning ukraine with the crimea and said to vote on their status the west continues to threaten russia with sanctions how long will this standoff last and hasn't washington already blinked. do.
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ukraine self-appointed prime minister is wooing washington with a visit to secure america's support and a financial lifeline. it's against the law to her. that kind of package through a government that has been overthrown it's a military coup but critics say washington's willingness to give aid to ukraine's new leadership is actually against its own laws. the g seven condemns russia over supporting crimea's referendum claiming it violate ukraine's sovereignty of europe to question the kiev leadership that diplomacy and its alleged crimes. a massive blast causes two buildings to collapse in new york two people are dead and several injured in the incident near central park.
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cleanup and the continued contamination three years on from the earthquake and tsunami we report on the fears that radiation from fukushima is still spreading. loan from a studio center in moscow this is r.t. international with the twenty four hours a day washington is welcoming ukraine's opposition leader turned prime minister to secure american allegiance to the country's current leadership the u.s. will also send a dozen fighter jets to nato bases in poland and lithuania by states to apparently enforce exercises in response to the turmoil there in ukraine the pentagon describes the move as making it crystal clear to american allies in the region that the u.s. stands by them but as the leaders flex their military muscles it appears more than half of americans who were polled would prefer not to get involved in the crisis as
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this report. ukraine's cool pointed interim prime minister comes to the u.s. capitol for a public show of mutual affection this is showing public support by the most powerful country in the world to an unelected prime minister who seized power illegally but they hope to gain legitimacy through this international arena the u.s. involvement in the ukrainian crisis reaches far and wide despite loud words about rooting for democracy and the ukrainian people deciding their own future you've seen us open ukraine foundation has nato and the department of state as official partners and he's a frequent visitor to the us where his sister reportedly a prominent scientologist resides on the west coast the politician was discussed in the infamous leaked newland phone conversations where american politicians played out favorable scenarios for the west as if on a chess board i think he is the guy who's got the economic experience the governing experience he's the he's the guy you know what he needs his cleats into
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a book on the outside he needs to be talking to them four times a week this prime minister we know is the favorite choice by victoria nuland representing the state department because the rest of the ukrainian government the new government is loaded with fascist and semi fascist during the chaos on raveling in kiev nato and u.s. officials paraded my don distributing snacks to the protesters and meeting with the new to the fine tunes of italian pop songs about a beautiful future ahead. today the u.s. has already gone in headfirst into putting ukraine's finances in order. here in ukraine experts from the justice and the treasury who are working. then against supporting questionable governments that leverages geo political strategy is nothing new for the u.s. if you want. the foreign policy of the u.s. . and. international or not.
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but it doesn't deviate from or there is no double standard in the behavior of the u.s. i won't be able to do that while in washington d.c. our city is getting a warm welcome from barack obama making appearances at the u.s. congress and spending time with the heads of the i.m.f. and the world bank the new prime minister in the ukraine is the i.m.f. manning and that's how it should be viewed that's been his track record for the last ten years he's wanted to do the bidding of the i.m.f. the world bank the german banks in other words he's a client or a proxy of the same forces that want to integrate ukraine into the you now for the benefit of the ukrainian people but in order to make money arguably dragging ukraine right into the west's profiteering under the u.s. guise of an honest attempt to help and party washington d.c. . well the g seven is calling on russia to stop supporting crimea as the republic
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prepares to vote on independence from ukraine and the group says it won't recognize the results of the referendum russia there was urging europe to look closer into the events which brought the former opposition to power and investigate alleged crimes pretty boy has a story. the g. seven along with the e.u. leaders have called on russia to cease all efforts to change the status of the crimea now they said that it would be against ukrainian and international law or they've also threatened to take action individually and collectively at the same time we know from angela merkel that the e.u. is prepared to sign the political part of the association agreement with ukraine as early as next week now this comes against the backdrop of russia calling on the e.u. to question the legitimacy of the ukrainian government really throughout this crisis moscow has also asked for an e.u. probe into the crimes perpetrated by the former ukrainian opposition and they've
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also asked that that probe would look into whether or not the post-coup government in kiev is illegitimate but despite calling for it and despite three pushing for this investigation very little has happened yet now or to have spoken to a russian m.p. who has been pushing for these consultations in the council of europe we agreed. to do should be an independent investigation or what happened in q four. on all the day in ukraine during this whole revolutionary situation we also agreed that. the growing concern of knots in ukraine is not just the russian government that's questioning the actions of the new government in kiev let's take a listen to a leaked recording of a conversation between the astronomy and foreign minister and the e.u.'s foreign policy chief catherine ashton so that varies i was stronger and stronger
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understanding that behind snipers we were because most unocal reach but it was somebody from the new coalition now the authenticity of this leak through boarding has already been confirmed by the is starting in foreign ministry and despite this in. very grateful that the western media and it hasn't come to having to question their alignment. playing leadership so my bet is that tool that sanctions threats from the seven already going to be getting louder over the coming days well western governments denouncing crimea as push for independence from ukraine present roma mixed signals let's look at some other examples of where seeking self rule seems full as contentious in europe and six months got them would decide whether to quit united kingdom no noise from abroad on that one similar sentiments being bring in catalonia for decades yet spain's prime minister rejects any talk of letting the country's wealthiest region go and the international community's totally quiet
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there as well but one bid for independence that was successful in europe back in two thousand and eight. it voted to carve itself out of a decision by washington when the head of the ron paul institute for peace and prosperity senses hypocrisy here it's very funny you know former ambassador to moscow michael mcfaul was was tweeting away about crimea is not kossovo madeline albright former secretary of state has chimed in as well it is kind of interesting to see people who supported a lawless coup in the streets of kiev now all of a sudden being the. strongest sticklers for every foreign port ukrainian constitution the point to be made is the double standards of the u.s. and the hypocrisy of the u.s. the u.s. was endlessly going on about the will of the albanian people and costs of zero and how they have a right to express their their view and their will and how their own future and now when the shoe is on the other foot in a place that they don't want to break away they're saying the same they're saying
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something very very different which is they don't have the right to do these things so the hypocrisy is more important than whether or not they have the right to do this. washington is also promising ukraine a billion dollars in aid to help the country's ailing economy but as russia's foreign ministry has pointed out that actually goes against u.s. law america's foreign assistance act forbids throwing a financial lifeline to a government whose leader was deposed by coup trends analyst gerald celente told us this isn't the first time washington has broken its own rule let us not forget that the united states still approve their one point three billion dollar loan package to egypt and it's against the law to provide that kind of package to a government that has been overthrown it's a military coup but the united states still does not call what happened in egypt a military coup and they're certainly not calling this that either the fact is
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a democratically elected government like them or not was overthrown and now the new prime minister is be is coming to the united states to meet with president obama from an illegitimate government so you can see international law local law state law federal law the law is on your side when you wanted the word justice by the way it's being missed spelled it's j u.s.t. us just us when they need to use it justice when they want to use it against you. so in four days from now ukraine southern region of crimea will decide where its future lies security is tight ahead of sunday's referendum with a nod to devide soldiers calling themselves self-defense squads patrolling the streets but several major news outlets inside are insistent that they are russian troops assisting a takeover. russian military helicopters and planes are entry in ukraine and russian forces have seized crimea's airports the u.s.
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intelligence community and nato are urgently trying to figure out what the russians may do next moscow says its troops in the region only those belonging to russia's black sea fleet permanently based there and that there are no reinforcements crimean officials maintain that the must men volunteer self-defense forces is an interview circulating online with one of their commanders shedding light on who they are. why do you think these are russian military forces i won't tell you where exactly these guys come from and who they are but i can assure you very soon you'll be surprised when you find out there crimean i'm climbing into i'm standing right here because i was led down by people who are supposed to protect us we don't want to fight with anyone but the police are simply unfit to keep order. more analysis and updates on ukraine as well as people's own stories right now including a ukrainian navy sailor chose to quit when he returned from his latest mission.
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a suspected gas leak has leveled two apartment buildings near central park in new york killing at least two and injuring dozens more police say several people remain unaccounted for ortiz is in new york. a reported two hundred firefighters are currently on the scene in east harlem battling to put out the fire and evacuate anyone who may still be caught under piles of debris as of now officials say at least two people were killed and after two five story buildings collapsed around nine thirty wednesday morning at one hundred sixteenth street and park avenue in the n.y.p.d. says the incident is not linked to terrorism now before the blast occurred con-ed the city's electric company was reportedly heading to the scene responding to calls about a gas leak now the force of the morning blast was so strong that it ended up blowing
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out windows belonging to other buildings in the area now the explosions shook the entire neighborhood with many people running for cover and others actually began filming we've heard from one witness who was just one block away when the incident occurred there's a lot of smoke in the air it's not a pretty you have a you're right you're on one hundred fifty five and i could see the smoke all the way down at one hundred second when i started walking out here but everybody knew an orderly lot of people of course you've been there for pictures and video and even a keen like fire department trucks but they can't get any more of them so there are a lot of firefighters are still going in on the first responders have instructed residents and anybody working in the area to stay indoors and keep windows closed because as we just heard this eyewitness say that smoke until continues to engulf the entire neighborhood it's not clear what type of toxins may be in the air what
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kind of debris may be floating around so it's probably best for everyone's safety to stay indoors keep windows closed if they do not have to be outside. well still to come here naughty international law from the battle for british police trying to prevent young people from being seduced into insurgency that's up to four people arrested on terror related charges connected to the syrian rebellion more on the passing of a story to the breaking. news . spinning ukraine with the crimea and said to vote on their status the west continues to threaten russia with sanctions how long will this standoff last and hasn't washington already blinked.
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the operator of japan's fukushima nuclear power plant says it might eventually have to dump hundreds of thousands of tons of contaminated water into the pacific ocean it's been three years since the nuclear disaster but tepco is still struggling to clear up with occasional radioactive leak still happening ortiz been following the disaster since it began. but anywhere now well within the fukushima no go is on we're just ten kilometers from the nuclear power station these houses ravaged by the tsunami twenty eleven still standing here and nowhere near to being restored. one of the frightening things about this entire incident is that there are no concrete boundaries that can clearly guarantee your safety.
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it's hard to say what gives you a creepier feeling the trail of destruction left by the twenty eleven tsunami all the houses untouched by natural disaster but abandoned after the nuclear accident. just to give you an idea of the consistency right now the beggar count is really in the frequent tonight micro ringgits which is about thirty times what is more than the accepted level but if you come down here to where the soil and a lot of it's collective the radiation will quickly jumps up and it's still climbing earlier we got a reading of ninety nine of my career hits which is about a thousand times more than what is the accepted level of state radiation. place where i'm at right now more than ten thousand people are currently living. if a quake and tsunami which hit japan in march two thousand and eleven led to massive radioactive leaks six months later it turned out that twice as much radiation was
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released them and mitchell estimates about twenty twelve the operator tepco finally admitted it failed to implement safety improvements that led to the meltdown than a year ago record radiation levels were found in local fish it was revealed three months later that the cause was of radioactive water leaking from a storage tank well last august tepco confessed that around three hundred tons of highly radioactive water have leaked from fukushima since two thousand and eleven kristie the consoler research is the effects of nuclear incident she says the cleanup efforts are poorly managed many of the things that they're doing at the fukushima site are purely cosmetic too. to have the appearance that there is some kind of decommissioning going on he have a massive amount of water that's being poured and collected in tanks in those tanks are failing and still at some point a decision is going to need to be made about what they're going to do with the
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water in those tanks because the goal is to keep the workers on the site there's long as possible so that they can try to mitigate any problems that occur from failures in all of their systems. and thousands have been running in tokyo protesting against the nuclear industry the disaster created up to three hundred thousand refugees christina consoler says that those people might never return home . according to the japanese government they're trying to move people back into some of those areas because they've done in decontamination which people who have worked in the decontamination process if stated you know that it hasn't worked i think that you know that that is false information that's being perpetuated by the japanese government now wants to try to stage people's fears. looks like fracking is again on shaky ground this time in the american state of ohio which has been hit by a series of troubles recently environmentalist's point to the dozens of nearby
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drilling wells for the controversial gas extraction method the story is there for tea dot com. last fall i want to put in journalists is quite the american media john c.b.s. after more than twenty years of dedicated will. write the scene. first book. and i think you're. on the record with. the. britain has arrested three men and a woman on suspicion of having to syria to support extremist forces that they now face terror related charges that could land them with life in jail there's been a rise in such a arrests in the u.k. where police fear returning terrorists will then conduct attacks on british soil
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but in total nearly two thousand europeans have traveled to syria to fight france is the biggest source of volunteers with an estimated seven hundred germany and belgium of each scene around three hundred people had to the water one region and as for the u.k. police say there are around two hundred fifty british to how this they have no return back home and they could carry out terror attacks that were smith reports from than them. what's happening in these muslim families it seems is that people are seeing someone becoming more and more radicalized thinking positively about going to fight in syria whether it be a brother or a sister or even a friend and rather than going to their local mosque which is what they most have done in the past going out what is often a very close knit community and going to the police who often are seen as essentially the enemy and reporting that to the police with all the implications that that brings including rest and even potential imprisonment so it's obvious
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that the muslim community if we can call them that the whole kind of thing it's very worried about the threat of people going to fight in syria now this information comes straight from the horse's mouth from the metropolitan police assistant commissioner quested dick she's been talking about these families coming forward and saying to the police that we're worried about somebody we think that they might be next step might be to go and fight in syria and as a result of that at least in parts in britain we've seen more serious related arrests in just this portion of two thousand and fourteen that we've that we've already had in the whole of two thousand and thirteen so it's certainly an increasing problem in this country in response to that there has been a change in police strategy. says that families community leaders and police are working better together they've changed their tactics in that they have had a fall in terrorism related to they're no longer really targeting people on the
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streets and also fewer major operations which haven't been all that successful in the past. rather world now for some other global headlines police in two of turkey's major cities from the midst of used tear gas and water cannons at a furious protest as thousands took to the streets for the funeral of a fifteen year old boy he died on monday after being in a coma since june after being hit by police to a gas canister during government uprising his family insists he was not of the test and was only buying bread teenager poem a focus for anger over the heavy handed response to rallies against the prime minister. malaysia's air force is denying claims that the missing passenger jet was seen on radar diverting from its planned route before vanishing but the air force chief said that it's possible the plane may have turned back malaysia airlines flight m.h. three seven zero from kuala lumpur to beijing disappeared on saturday with two hundred thirty nine on board an international search is widened with at least forty
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ships and thirty four aircraft now involved. phrases have been killed in southern afghanistan after the insurgents tried to storm a former intelligence headquarters it's part of fierce gun battle with security forces heavily guarded kandahar is the birthplace of the hardline taliban movement and militant still manage to enter the city. the twenty fourteen paralympics are seeing russia build up a solid lead with a record breaking medals haul and that is on top of the winter olympic success which saw the host country restore its games reputation wednesday saw team russia smash its own records taking its medals tally to forty seven that's nine more than its previous top total sixteen golds are among them another record for the host nation not seen since italy in two thousand and six russia also won the curling against norway on day five we'll keep you posted on the progress at sochi twenty fourteen's paralympics. more news in just over half an hour from now do stay with
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all of the international for cross talk on the global tug of war over ukraine. the interview. feel good.
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brooky of provocative trying to upset the referendum on crimea's status have put the region on the gulf. saying the post to government reverses roles in eastern ukraine cracking down dissent school paying rent with housing welfare in the u.k. could leave you with no roof over your head in direct what other media turn a blind eye to you get on faulty. please please take the i'm very hard to take a plunge again a little longer here there's a plug hat in that sack with the perfect hair no legs let's have a little. list of the fleece look look look look look look
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years ago a little wear shoes that no one is asking with the guests that you deserve answers from it's all on politicking only on our t.v. . oh and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered on funeral of l. spinning ukraine with the crimea and said to vote on their status the west continues to threaten russia with sanctions how long will the standoff last and hasn't washington already blinked.
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cross-talk the ongoing crisis in ukraine i'm joined by my guest pepe escobar in bangkok he is the asia times roving correspondent in new york we have and lee she is a professor at new york university and author of the book what the u.s. can learn from china and in london we crossed to martin mccauley he is a specialist on international affairs at the university of london all right cross talk rules and the fact that means you can jump in anytime you want and i would very much appreciate it pepe if i go to you first in bangkok i don't think i've come across more divergent narratives about an international crisis since august two thousand and eight when georgia attacks south of setia it took western media weeks in most cases to get the story correct because according won't rush invaded georgia which isn't wasn't the case in most media knowledge that now we have the same kind of binary here it's very different narratives pepe what's your narrative . sure you go back to iraq in two
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thousand and three in terms of credibility of western corporate media so forget about this look the big picture is the new great game in eurasia russia is the eurasia nation by the finnish and the ukraine is this swing nation at the heart of eurasia. for the us for nato and for cern european nations not all of them there is a lot of divergence in brussels as well it's absolutely essential to as they put it conquer ukraine for the west so this is not by an area think it's an either or operation either they are with us or they are going to be gobbled up by russia it's not reality the reality is that ukraine is split into roughly western ukraine is more westernized in eastern ukraine. emotionally politically economically industrially is linked to russia so i have d.n.b.
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we should have a government of national union in fact trying to steer a crane into the future after all why do we had which was the real old of an orange revolution which by the way even if it goes on it's going to fail just like the first one failed when we have i.m.f. structural adjustment had it's not going to happen because. people who are in power at the moment they aren't agonizing eastern ukraine south crane and russia at the same time so obviously this is too complicated for a way to explain ok martin how do you see things playing out right now because right now is when recording this program there is talk of sanctions in london and these could have consequences here too many lines are being drawn in the sand here i said in my introduction as washington blinked because this referendum is going to happen in crimea and it will have consequences the referendum will go ahead and all
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but certainly the majority will vote for either independence or perhaps even a stage further integration with russia that is the. would be public opinion and so on but looking at ukraine. economically has done very very badly. only sixty percent of the g.d.p. is only sixty percent of ukraine's g.d.p. and ukraine is only sixty percent of its neighbors so ukraine and crimea over the last ten twenty years has been a very sad story a very weak story and therefore economically the the uprising and the the conflict is in fact really goes back to economic factors because people are fed up with the government are fed up with their started living and so on and they want a better life and therefore it's really a struggle about who would give us a better life from the people of crimea is it better to link up with russia where
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they provide a higher standard of living or will. you actually trust here because of the last twenty years kiev has been rather unsuccessful in growing the ukrainian economy you know and it's very interesting if you look at western media and you look at russian media and everyone saying this is legal this is even legal this is legitimate this is illegitimate but of course their opposites when we look at the government in kiev the west says this is a legitimate government it was a coup and of course we have the people in crimea that want to vote for their future and of course the white house is saying this is illegal i mean what is the what is legal what is the illegal is there or you just your interpretation here. it really is about spin because there are many sites a story and depending on how an actions interpreted it could be illegal or illegal and clearly from the russians perspective they're saying that they're there to protect russian citizens and. from the west they say that you know they're
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violating sovereignty so this is depending on your politics so it doesn't there's no black or white here which is no different than oh was it legal or illegal for nato to go bomb libya i mean there are clearly multiple sides to any story so i don't think that's an easy one to answer you know pepe hanging on who you ask me if i go back to you in bangkok i don't find this absolutely amazing that russia is violating ukraine's sovereignty when we have the victoria nuland conversation i mean who's violating who's sovereignty here but. look one of my readers coined an absolutely fantastic expression can get me out of new loons this is what we have in western ukraine you know it's the kagan family and the very famous new york still very influential. married to one of them and
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it's a new candidate so they think that they're going to conquer western ukraine and in fact blunder because when we have fifteen billion this promised billion euro. rescue package for ukraine it's going to be in depth at slieve really for the foreseeable future for ukrainians who think they're going to get a you passport tomorrow and get great jobs like polish plumbers and romanian cocktail waitresses in paris this is not going to happen in the eastern ukraine because they are industrious to link to to russia they know what this means in terms of. under the conditions and that they called for by central bankers of ukraine in terms of destroying ukrainian industry very important why in your car which we do all his faults yes why you didn't sign the you agreement in the first
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place two reasons number one he knew that the rule destroyed ukrainian industry and number two there was a provision that ukraine would have to respect nato military protocol ok i'd like to go back to martin in london you know in looking at this referendum that's going to be held this sunday here do you see it it will have a demonstration effect for the for the other parts of the country the south and the east. yes i think that if the overwhelming majority of people in crimea vote for either independence or closer association with russia the globes the influence. of ukraine which have an ethnic russian majority so you're looking at donetsk you're looking at how to keith and they will look at that and say well perhaps we should do the same thing there will be pressure among some of the people there to actually go ahead with that we don't know what the majority point of view is there because they haven't been consulted
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but we know that some are in favor of a close relationship with russia and others are not so sure because at the end of the day you come down to an economic question is ukraine better off being more closely associated with russia or to better off being more closely associated with western europe the european union and the west west ukraine would obviously vote. one way or they would go for a closer association whereas those in the east don't really want that style of living and that type of competition they prefer a much more russian type development and they will in fact decide eventually because the government in kiev at present is quite weak the pretty the is no president the president elect. did martin explain very clearly for us and our viewers is that there's a lot of vacuums going on right now how legitimate the government is that's that's a political opinion i suppose right now and then we have succession i mean again as from a legal perspective the people in crimea can say there's no legal government in kiev
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for us to talk to we're on our own right now of course not others look at it or we in new territory here or. again we get down to your interpretation. again like i said before it depends on which perspective and i would say it's actually more about politics here playing in legal interpretations because you know the international courts are really not that strong and there are many countries that don't participate in that including the u.s. so i would say that right now it's actually more about politics than it may be brought up to a u.n. resolution if that happens. you know clearly russia would veto any such motion china would likely abstain from any actions and if it cannot make sam's actions to go forward it's likely only going to be u.s. that's going to really push hard on that because europe especially the baltic
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states are still very much dependent on russian gas and oil and so it would hurt their interests economically and they're already fragile from an economic standpoint. and clearly nobody else wants to upset china either which you know is there depend on china's cheap goods and services and and so this is more of a political issue if you ask me in terms of how this is going to play out and how it's going to be spun going into the future. and while china is in a very awkward position because they don't want to upset the u.s. and yet they still like to be friendly with russia since. both of them do see us as their main rival. primarily one the us has done the asia pivot and this could threaten china's imports of energy from various choke points so
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china is eagerly looking to russia for energy supplies and russia obviously wants to diversify their risk and so they have some compatibility of interests here and so it will be very interesting how they might you know together spin this about. you know openly. antagonizing the west so this is a very delicate very delicate balance and i would say we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on ukraine state with our.
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place. like. a. welcome to cross talk were all things considered i'm peter lavelle remind you we're
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discussing the events unfolding in ukraine. unfortunately we lost martin mccauley and london the uplink went down but we thank him for his contribution pepe now if i go back to you in bangkok why was victoria nuland thinking and planning this whole adventure in ukraine didn't she expect the russians would react. but of course not to say i want your mammoth peter look at these people john kerry victoria nuland banner rolls these people are amateurs compared to real diplomats in iran you know russia much of latin america some europeans this is completely they were trying to reload do a regional powers revolution with their vodka orange the killer sunrise whatever and now much more complex because they were using basic instrumental izing neo
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analysis and fascists you know the descendants of a step. you know western ukraine either warrick because sort of when that there was the moment to pounce and just like it was discussed by the estonian foreign minister and catherine ashton in all was that this is not going to be examined at the united nations and russia read the table it and the u.s. is going to block it snipers were shooting both sides so in the middle of all this confusion they took power basically and yanick of which fled for his life with his team so this is what happened it's an illegal coup with snipers and with fascist anyone as is involved after wards they don't know just like they didn't know about iraq they said remember paul wolfowitz we have to go back to this all the time you know there are the river aleutian in iraq is going to pay for itself are going to be then you will back all their stupidity and now it's going going to be repeated in ukraine just a small point i'd like to i like to make about china picking up i want to and said
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before i've been following the chinese reaction it's very very cautious because chinese diplomacy is reactive b. are terrified that any legal cool going is going oh it's already being legitimized by washington they are terrified because this would create a precedent for something happening inside china divide us. could being seen could being to bet could even be hong kong we have a larry diamond this press few days talking about democracy and the style in hong kong and at the same time they have a very complex political strategic relationship based on energy as well with russia so president suturing being he called both obama and uncle merkel and he said please resolve this diplomatically i suggest that obama merkel really listen closely to what the president she's telling you know and pepe with just took the
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question that i what he answered the question i wanted to skew i mean from beijing's perspective this is very reckless in what washington in brussels is doing i mean it's seems very interesting to me that. the west will look at ukraine and say that the russians will just walk away from millions of russians living on the border of russia who live in ukraine and again pepe brought up you know the there are these issues in china as well and around the periphery there i mean this is extremely reckless behavior that sends a demonstration effect or a worry through the rest of the eurasian land space. most definitely china one stability first and foremost and so. what the west is trying to do clearly is you know play both sides of the china because they're saying oh china since you stand for noninterference you need to stand up against russia you know if this is ok then you know you can have various maybe
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weaker states break away from china and so it's like damned if you do damned if you don't for china and so this is again very messy politics and so i agree with analysis on this i would say that china is basically trying to cool everyone's tempers trying to basically say let's you know try to negotiate something and then . hopefully blow over and then people will forget about it and another incident will happen somewhere else in the world so that this doesn't come up again i think that's really what china is hoping for china really can't afford to be dragged into this that well actually i agree with you completely because pepe one of the things that so many people don't focus too much attention on is that the ukrainian economy is going over a cliff and it's going to be very very not a soft landing to put it lightly and we have western governments that are not and
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they don't want to pay for the mess that they've created here russia was there at the fore to help out with fifteen billion dollars that's disappeared and it's not going to come back so what do we have what's going to happen to this government in kiev because i just cannot seeing it being electable because of its fascist elements and it has an economy that's about to die absolutely it's illegal it's not electable in the long run it might be electable for what thirty five forty maximum forty five percent of ukrainian population they're going to implement and i.m.f. a structural adjustment which is going to be extremely harsh as we've discussed before sooner or later i would say soon there i was saying six months western ukraine is going to wake up to the reality of living like a latin america in the seventy's there the i.m.f. took a large for that matter and soon we're going to have made. me down. in the year look let's kick these bastards out because they promised something for us
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and we're not going to get it and they saw it that they were going to get into the european union like tomorrow. ok and i think it how does this play into chinese russian affairs in relations because again china is spooked by these a colored revolutions they're invented crisis sees and it's getting closer to them and this is what how does this bode for the relationship. the two countries are going to russia and china are going to get closer and closer. yeah i would say that both u.s. and russia have a lot of similarities one they both feel that they've been wronged by the west russia primarily because the a lot of russians see the collapse of the soviet union and the ensuing economic chaos that followed was largely instigated by western policymakers china's feels wrong because this latest asian pivot was all sorts of warships and fighter planes
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being relocated to the asia pacific is meant to contain china's rise and so both sides are actually looking for more allies and yet neither one of them can really oppose the u.s. openly what i think is going to happen is that instead of having any formal alliance because that would really freak out the u.s. they would more or less agree to become friendly and mutually supportive of each other in various international forums and this is what i expect to see going forward here because not only do they have certain political objectives in terms of trying to support each other. on the global front you know russia looking for china's support to stop western interference in their sphere of influence and same with china the fact that both of them depend on each other because russia would
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like to divert their energy revenue more to the east asia given the threats of economic sanctions and china obviously worried about their energy supplies too and so in russia would be a natural partner all these areas would both that their. relationship ought to grow closer. of course there it's a balancing act like i said china cannot afford to upset the us because a lot of their exports are still to the us they still see us as the sole superpower and therefore cannot afford to tega nice to us in any way and so what i believe we'll see is that this is going to be just kind of a delicate dance of friendship between russia and china for probably the next two decades before we see any breakout relationships you know pepe one of the
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interesting things for me is i started the program talking about two thousand and eight well south. and crimea have something in common it stops nato expansion when you think about or slows it down. absolutely by the way the number one rationale for the tag and the of moon's gambit is nato bases in ukraine so this is part of full spectrum dominance this is sparked of the empire of bases we all know about this is being fully documented the problem is the obama administration they know if we have to put it in a soundbite in fact iran china and russia these are the three nations that stand in the way of an american exceptionalism twenty four century in august the deep state in the west the real ruling elites the shadow way leads they know it so what are we going to do about it the obama administration their strategy is pivoting so now
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they are lost they're always off people to so one day its people think to china let's sing circle them with military bases japan singapore in vietnam philippines everywhere people think to iran ok maybe not maybe if we not going to war like john kerry said a few weeks ago i'm quoting literally we should try to examine the possibility of a nuclear deal so it's a house hearted way of trying to get a nuclear deal with iran it's already encircled by military bases all across southwest asia and people thing to russia which has been going on since the end of the soviet union bush father he promised gorbachov mater is not going to expend off course it will end if it did under clinton under bush one bush two and still expanding on their obama with lots of neo cons inside his own foreign policy team because he's absolutely lousy in picking his own. team and of course the listening
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to advice of people who are not qualified to to advise them so it's all these three pivots schemes at the same time they don't even. i know what to do so when you have a state department initiative which this is basically what it was a d.i.y. and of newland with this new analysis of the fascists and having a central banker to legitimize the whole saying to apply the i.m.f. structural adjustment up towards you know they were only thinking about the immediate term ok maybe i have to jump in were brought out of time cross i was going to keep this story many thanks to my guests in bangkok new york and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t. see you next time and remember crosstalk.
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ukrainian fascists have come to our land it's a threat to russia which. crimea is a small republican russia is a huge country to defend us. the law came to an end when the first mode of cocktail was thrown at our guys who stood there defending the law and order we believe that he. has never surrendered to anyone and it never will.
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hello it's wednesday march twelfth i'm going to check on you watching our team erica ukrainians haven't chosen their you leaders in kiev but washington has already thrown its support behind the interim government there and the white house has cemented that support by hosting ukraine's interim prime minister the u.s. has pledged one billion dollars in loan guarantees to kiev moscow says the u.s. would break its laws its own laws if it if they do it under the foreign assistance act or it's illegal to foreign fund the government of any country whose duly elected head of government is deposed by a coup but the u.s. doesn't consider what happened in key of a coup archy's on a social can a report. ukraine's cool pointed interim prime minister yatsenyuk comes to the u.s. capitol for a public show of mutual affection this is showing public support by the most powerful country in the world to an unelected prime minister who seized power illegally but they hope to gain legitimacy through this international arena the
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u.s. involvement in the ukrainian crisis reaches far and wide despite loud words about rooting for democracy and the ukrainian people deciding their own future it's in u.s. open ukraine foundation has nato and the department of state as official partners and he's a frequent visitor to the us where his sister reportedly a prominent scientologist resides on the west coast the politician was discussed in the infamous leaked newland phone conversations where american politicians played out favorable scenarios for the west as if on a chess board i think he was the guy who's got the economic experience the governing experience he's the he's the guy you know what he needs is creation tony burke on the outside he needs to be talking to them four times a week this prime minister we know was the favorite choice by victoria nuland representing the state department because the rest of the ukrainian government the new government is loaded with fascist and semi fascist during the chaos unraveling in kiev nato when u.s. officials paraded my don distributing snacks to the protesters and meeting with the
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new to the fine tunes of italian pop songs today the u.s. has already gone in headfirst into putting ukraine's finances in order. here in ukraine. just as. the treasury working. then against supporting questionable governments that the brits geo political strategy is nothing new for the west if you want me to say the foreign policy of the us is so. international. but it doesn't deviate from. the behavior of the u.s. . while in washington d.c. our city's senior is getting a warm welcome from barack obama making appearances at the u.s. congress and spending time with the heads of the i.m.f. and the world bank the new prime minister i mean is the i.m.f. spinning and that's how it should be viewed that's been his track record for the
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last ten years he's wanted to do the bidding of the i.m.f. the world bank the german banks in other words he's a client or a proxy of the same forces that want to integrate ukraine into the you know for the benefit of the ukrainian people but in order to make money arguably dragging playing right into the west's proper tearing and the west guise of an honest attempt to help them start you're going to parties washington d.c. . in the meantime the new thought is in kiev appear to be engaged in the same practices that they've criticized their opponents for the national television and radio broadcasting council of ukraine demanded that cable operators stop broadcast so far from television channels the representative on freedom of media with the organization for security and cooperation in europe as expressed concern over this the move follows reports sunday that crimea replaced ukrainian t.v. channels with washington stations artie's peter all over is in berlin with details on the concerns russian officials are raising with their european counterparts.
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delegation of senior representatives of the russian foreign ministry are here in europe particularly they want to look at the situation regarding the the snipers which murdered people both on the side of the demonstrators and on the side of the police in kiev now this all came to light following a leaked phone call between the a stonie and foreign minister and the head of foreign policy for the european union catherine ashton all the evidence shows that people who were killed by snipers from both sides among. them from the streets that they were at the same snipers killing people from both sides so that varies i was stronger and stronger understanding that behind snipers it was not called which but for somebody from the new coalition now the issue regarding those snipers that shot both demonstrators and police isn't the only issue that this delegation will be
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raising me but also want to look at the rise of the far right in ukraine in particular if you look at the streets of kiev well the de facto police force right now come from the organization right sector which are referred to as being a neo nazi organization they also want to look at human rights violations censorship of the press in ukraine and the treatment of m.p.'s and ultimately they want to address the legitimacy of the current government that is in charge in kiev after they took power from a elected government. that was our to correspondent peter all over. crimea as they are preparing to vote sunday on whether they want to secede from ukraine and join russia washington is dismissing the upcoming referendum calling it illegal while many crimean say the change in government in kiev was illegal and former congressman ron paul in an interview with the u.s. news and world report said the u.s. should embrace crimea's self-determination citing the anti-government revolts and
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egypt and syria he says obama administration officials are being hypocritical and only selectively interested in self-determination arties may go a lot earlier caught up with ron paul and he's been very critical of the administration's foreign policy in general they discuss the pullout of u.s. troops from afghanistan among other things take a listen we are about to draw down our troops in a major way from afghanistan and finally end that war in december where do you think we go from here and i hope oh my you know the other day i was making fun they said wow we've just spend these umpteen millions of dollars developing a pizza that will last in the in the out in the field for three years war that's a great that's a great idea sending the troops there so their pizza will stay fresh for three years now we. were not really going to leave we were
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supposedly not in iraq but we're around iraq we have an embassy in the rack and if push comes to shove we're going to be back in there in spite of all that tragic circumstances you know i think it's going to really drive us home and forget about all that will be the destruction of the dollar and a bankruptcy which is which is possible. even if the end of this year you know the motivation we say we're going to leave unless cars i sign says agreement with this with the agreement is nothing more than to protect our group or troops against. you know any charges of crimes may protect our contractors we might not have military but we're going to thousands of contractors and we're going to have a lot of influence on the contracts so it's we're going to be involved but fortunately less americans are being killed but what we've left in those countries is a lot worse than they had well before we started you know as bad as saddam hussein
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was the killing continues now a lot more than it was before we marched in there and so many people have died including you know the two wars over ten thousand americans have died and chuck hagel said that he does want to reduce troop forces by forty thousand and that's gotten a lot of backlash from different republicans and military leaders and whatnot what is your personal stance when it comes to reducing the troops well not enough more i mean what war are we going to fight in my comment when that came out was you know this is a good idea this reduce this reduce the course i consider him very insincere i mean this is all politics because congress won't let that happen and that's just sort of fluff but what you want to reduce you can't cut back on the military but if you cut back on the military intervention is over the you know the. foreign policy your foreign policy has to change if we're to be the policemen of the world
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now why in the world are we so involved in ukraine you know it's it's not like it seemed cuba so we have to be involved in our probably one billion or fifteen billion i need four hundred billion and where we're involved in that but then that is not you know who we're not capable of doing that so our argument is that we should shouldn't even try and on these we have to change the foreign policy and then you can have a much smaller military do you think that there is room in. the republican party right now for antiwar stance is all i absolutely you know that's been that's been the tradition and the amazing i don't think it's too much the republican party democratic party there's a vacuum out there for this position in both parties and i think philosophically both parties are controlled by philosophy if it's pro war and pro intervention and
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profi had it's going to infiltrate both both parties. so i think this whole issue is not so much injecting it into the republican party but injecting these views into the general public and that's where we're having a lot of success because it was the general public that finally sent a message to washington about mr president we don't think it's a good idea to bomb syria and i think it had an effect so we're making progress there there's a large majority american people now know about the federal reserve they might not conclude what i've concluded that we need to radically change the monetary system and have a gold backing to the currency there are at least saying we need to audit the federal reserve and the federal reserve is very important and they are responsible so we're making a lot of progress there but yes there is room in the republican party there was a time when the republican party was a much nor noninterventionist party but there's a room in the democratic party too because in the last several decades it was
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thought that progressive democrats were the nonintervention is an anti-war people but they don't do such a good job i mean they're there as aggressive as the democrats as the republicans are dr ron paul with the ron paul channel thank you so much for joining us thank you. that was meghan little press a small sleepy town in north carolina called roanoke rapids may bear little resemblance to kabul or badat but its police department now has its own mind resistant ambush protected vehicles or amber apps so do police departments in many other towns and counties across the u.s. all thanks to the pentagon's so-called ten thirty three program which provides or transfers surplus department of defense military equipment to state and local civilian law enforcement agencies without charge georgia congressman hank johnson is about to introduce a bill that would rein in further police militarization joining me to talk about
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this is michael shank associate director for legislative affairs at the friends committee on national legislation michael thank you so good to be here thanks for coming into what is the driving concern behind this legislation we've got several concerns there's a cost concern there's an accountability concern there's a cultural concern what's happening to america's main streets were being militarized were becoming more and more representative of a war zone as you mentioned in your lead but there's a lot of waste fraud and abuse potential here and misuse so in response to occupy wall street you see these armored personnel carriers and increasingly assault weapons increasingly drones aircraft being used by very small town police chiefs who i mean it's very much kind of boys in their toys using weaponry that they really don't need in the local community and especially with those military vehicles why would you need that at a university campus in iraq about the university of ohio that's exactly right and so these are these are weapons that run six hundred thousand seven hundred thousand a market so these small towns are getting these weapons this machinery them around
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and then they have to do maintenance on it so not only do they have a machine that they can upkeep they have a machine that ultimately they don't need the bill that you mentioned congressman johnson's bill would both bands coming from the word zone to small towns in america it would also ban drones in aircraft and assault weapons. it would allow things to come across like you know microwaves that if even used in the in the war zone certainly police chiefs might need to use for a microwave or refrigerator or car vehicle something like that but i think bigger than that of bands and also does oversight currently there's no inventory there's no accountability and so police chiefs in indiana in illinois are either selling them on e bay or giving them to friends assault weapons we're talking nothing but the assault weapons are given to different selling on e bay so there's really no accountability system in place that's what the bill would look at and that is quite alarming you talked about drones and police departments are now acquiring those drones but their argument is that the draws allow them to patrol city it's better how would you respond to that argument right
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so there's certainly some benign use of drones in terms of surveillance and the department of homeland security is looking at that the department homeland security has actually given in addition to this ten thirty three program they're giving terrorism grants they've given thirty four billion so far to police chiefs all across america to essentially in cash to use how they once they're also buying assault weapons drones aircraft and rams the problem there is once it's on armed and then there's an accountability issue and there's a cultural issue too to my earlier point do we want america becoming less and less safe lower social capital people aren't feeling safe in the public sphere and we're reminding ourselves of the very war zones that we're essentially liberating or trying to protect in theory. what about the pentagon's argument that that's a way for them to recycle basically a great question i'm sure that they they don't put it in those exact words but it is what it is you it sure so we're bringing back twenty thousand m. raps from the war zone so i would push back and say our strategy at the beginning was a little thawed we have twenty thousand emirates that we can't use we're probably
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going to put in a graveyard in arizona or somewhere so there's a strategic thing there but we could we could reese recycle it there's currently no audit of pentagon use of any of this the pentagon has been audited won't be audited till twenty seven thousand nine hundred eighteen so there's a real there's a taxpayer issue because one sees it. given to police forces they won't be able to be used in a war zone again this is great for just transcribing contractors because then they can get new contracts to build new machinery for the next war zone so there is there is a cost to the taxpayer michael what are the chances of a bill like the one that you are proposing of actually passing in congress i mean defying the pentagon is not exactly what congress is known for. because the contractors the contractors defense contractors have a hold on congress as does the pentagon i think it has a great chance every member of congress we've talked to republican and democrat is on board because they don't want the main streets of america militarized you know there's a there's a swath of occasion that's happening to radley balko who writes
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a lot of these issues so one hundred fifty swat raids a day so i think members of congress they're reporting to their constituency and americans don't want that kind of culture and it's not just cause for these kind of militarization of u.s. police forces in america so it doesn't have a chance to pass absolutely we expected to pass the house we're talking with the senate about the senate bill. thank you thank you my question to you michael shank associate director of legislative affairs at the friends comedia on national legislation. president obama's nominee to head the national security agency vice adm or michael rogers defended the ball collection of data during the senate hearing yesterday not only that but he also said he considers legal protection for corporations that share information with intelligence agencies critical element quote a critical element in any new cybersecurity legislation in a written statement tool senate panel rogers said quote i believe that we need to
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maintain an ability to make queries so phone records in a way that is agile and provides results in a timely fashion being able to quickly review phone connections associated with terrorist to assess whether a network exists is critical meanwhile privacy advocates see little to no moment. in congress to rein in massive aliens in any significant way so when the head of the senate intelligence committee dianne feinstein complained about the cia's alleged hacking into the computers of her staff activist groups accused her of hypocrisy artie's amir a davis cup with a code pink protest group outside dianne feinstein's office sure brings us more from the capitol. as. well today code pink activists gathered here on the hill to pay a special visit to senator dianne feinstein's office the group here is frustrated over senator feinstein's accusations that the cia hacked into senate intelligence
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committee computers and they tell me that's because they find her concern over the spying to be somewhat hypocritical she shouldn't just be asking for an apology she should say she demands that head start rolling who is responsible for this and they should certainly lose their jobs if not go to jail but we're also saying that she should have been outraged by this kind of spying by the n.s.a. and millions and millions of innocent americans and she wasn't she was actually a cheerleader for the n.s.a. and we were very disappointed in her yesterday senator feinstein took to the senate floor and condemned the agency's surveillance of the investigation here's what she had to say i have grave concerns that the cia's search may well have violated the separation of powers. embodied in the united states constitution including the speech and debate clause it may have undermine the constitutional framework
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essential to a corrective congressional oversight of intelligence activities or any arguer government corruption the senate report at the center of this heated dispute is a detailed investigation of the agency's rendition detention and interrogation program which the bush administration started just after nine. eleven report concluded that the program produced little intelligence of value and claimed the cia exaggerated its worth to the white house and to congress now it's important to note that the group of activists here today are very much in support of the senate investigating and exposing that program clearly there are some horrific accounts of torture in that report otherwise the cia wouldn't be going through such lengths to cover it up i think that the american people deserve to know what's being done in their name oh what's making other people around the world hate us and i also think it's incredibly important to bring the torturers to press q. the torturers to name them and hold them accountable for what they've done and
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today they delivered a letter to senator feinstein's office in which they listed a number of demands we think that the senator could start an accountability campaign by one ending cia and n.s.a. spying and also firing john brennan or at least calling on the president to fire john brennan the head of the cia activists say this is the moment for senator feinstein to draw the line in the sand and make it clear where she stands on government spying in washington and the other day that are today. terrorism has been ruled out in a deadly explosion in new york city around nine thirty this morning a blast shook parts of opera manhattan explosion from a gas leak caused by three buildings to collapse two people were killed nearly two dozen others heard several are still missing new york mayor bill de blasio said the buildings are destroyed and the first responders remain on the scene looking for more possible victims trapped in the rubble officials say just before the explosion
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con edison the utility company in new york had received a call about a strong odor of gas in the neighborhood the explosion also caused major travel delays for morning commuters they brew from the explosion shut down nearby train service for several hours. to the state of washington where dozens of inmates who are now on hunger strike at an immigration detention center could be force fed if they continue a u.s. immigration and customs enforcement spokesperson says they'll do it only if it's quote absolutely medically necessary but the striker's lawyer says the person is using intimidation tactics such as threats of force feeding and efforts to isolate strike leaders for more details on this story will go to our own galindo in los angeles. let's begin with the who are the deed what are the detainees trying to
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achieve with this hunger strike. sure well this hunger strike started last friday with reportedly some twelve hundred detainees going on hunger strike now yesterday that number dropped down to five and this morning i was tells me that there are a total of four people still on strike but basically what they want is an end to all deportations across the country and really an improvement to their conditions right now at the pacific northwest detention center which is run by the private prison contractor geo group now according to these detainees are paid a dollar a day for the jobs that they perform there and as i mentioned this started on friday on sunday a new list of demands came forth from the detainees advocates for the detainees talk to me a little bit earlier about it let's hear from them now the one where bonds to be able to pay these bond in get out of detention center so they can continue with their civil proceedings outside we define released in their homes they also when i
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signed them cases to be resolved. in a quick matter people have been some of them have been there for years waiting for asylum cases they also have one ensure that they have due process the they want to be able to actually see a judge and go through the system and according to these advocates for these immigrant detainees some of these detainees are being isolated reported so that they can't coordinate with others strikers and. as far as demands go so far eyes hasn't met any of them. could make they say what is the prison saying are they actually under threat of being force fed. well i spoke with ice earlier today and they said that as far as the hunger strikers go they are following protocol now they say that there are four hunger strikers still being
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under medical evaluation and during this medical evaluation they are informed that if they refused to eat that they could. possibly be force fed now there's no confirmation that that has happened yet and they wouldn't give me an official statement as far as whether they're threaten anybody what they did say was the only official statement that they have released to us and to other media outlets is saying that since friday u.s. immigration and customs enforcement officials and detention center maj min have been communicating with detainees several issues that have been brought to management's attention are being addressed including adding more items to the commissary list and exploring ways to reduce prices it's fully respects the rights of all people to express their opinion without interference from on this hunger strike has highlighted the issue of immigrant detention in general has made the u.s. is now holding thirty four thousand immigrants behind bars and as i understand it's
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required by law to keep it at that level can you tell us more about this yeah that's right back in two thousand and six to a phone. to phone crime republican legislators really high in this quote up to thirty four dollars in saying that immigration detention centers had to have thirty four thousand of their beds filled and. that's one of the things that these activists are trying to fight let's hear from them now. the research these roundup of the new grants across the nation has to do a lot we congress mandating for a couple of years now the ice should have thirty four thousand people that came across the nation any given day in dogs why they're going around trying to meet this quarter in d.c. quote i just came down from congress we not really understanding what they were doing and i did sponsor the reason why april fifth we're going to reach two million
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people deported that's right and right now federal spending on immigration detention and deportations as top two billion dollars every year and you know the beneficiaries of this are really these private prison corporations such as the g.a.o. group and the corrections corporation of america who have very large contracts with the federal government to transport and to house these immigrants and who have spent a lot of money lobbying on washington for these tough immigration measures that we've seen over the years i think inquiry report that was artie's from i'm going to go from our l.a. studio. because of all these alarming headlines in world news you might be missing out on the paralympics that just wrapped its fifth day in sochi russia that's all right we'll bring you up to date here's a quick look at the medal count so far. russia is currently in the lead to with a total of forty seven matt also it also has the most bronze silver and gold medal
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wins in second place is ukraine with fourteen total medals and the u.s. and canada are tied for third with eight medals each and they're followed by germany slovakia japan and austria one of today's big winners was russia's romano who struck all the men's in the men's sitting spring final this is a fourth the gold medal in the games so far and in the women's division norway's marion martinson took home the gold leading the games in the standings sprint final russia. and the millenia both won gold medals in their divisions we'll keep you up to date on the paralympic games as they continue i'm going to stay tuned boom bust is next.
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i would rather ask questions to people in positions of power instead of speaking on their behalf and that's why you can find my show larry king now right here on our t.v. question more. oh
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there i marinate it this is boom bust and these are some of the stories that we're tracking for you today. first up we look at us at based companies that made billions in offshore profits last year all thanks to low tax countries in which they parked their stiff files we'll tell you all about it coming right up then we have a condom is thomas kelly live and in studio today last time we sat down with dr polly he spoke of financialization as the root cause of what we're seeing in the u.s. and global economies today we're getting his thoughts on the u.s. economy moving forward you won't want to miss my interview with him and finally in today's big deal edward harrison and i are discussing wage growth yesterday we
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spoke about a nomics failing because of a lack of wage growth but why is japan such a clue as to the u.s. we'll tackle this subject and much more time now to get to. our story today low corporate tax locales now in two thousand and thirteen cash abroad rose by two hundred six billion dollars as some of the largest u.s. companies park their earnings in the low tax countries like bermuda ireland luxembourg and the netherlands and switzerland as well of course switzerland now the increase in profits held outside of the us has been particularly large of
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technology companies many of which have moved patents and other intellectual property to low tax regions now apply. bloomberg multinational companies have accumulated almost two trillion dollars outside the u.s. that's up eleven point eight percent from one year ago microsoft apple and i.b.m. added thirty seven point five billion dollars or eighteen point two percent of the total increase now many countries with lower corporate tax rates use this as a vehicle to increase investment from abroad while also increasing jobs at home and over the past few years the response of u.s. based companies has been pretty consistent book profits offshore and leave them there yet it's consistent across the board and the top fifteen companies now hold over seven hundred ninety five billion dollars outside the u.s. these companies are deferring hundreds of billions billions with a b hundreds of billions of dollars in u.s. taxes that's a lot of money at the same time they're lobbying to end the system that they describe as putting them at
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a competitive disadvantage in the world markets sounds like it right now here in the u.s. congress hasn't moved on this issue because many don't believe that the two thousand and four bush tax breaks for overseas corporate profits were successful that's it it's very simplest now the capitalists read executives of multibillion dollar companies they argue that they should be able to bring back their cash without paying a repatriation tax they argue that that's yet another form of double taxation on the corporate income that they've already paid which churches job creators such as themselves in fact mr paul jacobs executive chairman of gave his shareholders a homework assignment this is a true story called a homework assignment and he wrote quote send your congress people your opinion that you'd like american companies to be able to bring offshore money back to the united states to be their reinvest or return to shareholders now it should be mentioned that qualcomm has over twenty one point six billion dollars in overseas profits yeah jacobs wants to bring home his money and not have to pay for it but
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why would any ok ok to be fair he along with other. companies headquartered in corporate tax locales like ireland say are willing to go so far as to fork over five percent of the money that they've earned to uncle sam mind you carried interest is taxed at fifteen percent so to put this all in perspective that's the sweet corporate tax rate fifteen percent on carried interest that mitt romney gets on his income so they're willing to pay even less than mr mitt romney as to it's pretty generous no. in january we spoke to dr talley about the u.s. economy specifically income inequality and secular stagnation resulting directly
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from the financialization of the economy dr paul lee is back now and we want to take the discussion a look further this time getting his views on where the u.s. economy is headed so first and foremost welcome back to the show dr polly i'm thrilled to have you here and you always teach me so much now tom i want to revisit our conversation from last time specifically the idea of financialization because i have taken that word from you and just abused it occur all across the show i love it it's a fantastic term but when we last spoke we discussed financialization increasing the concentration of not just wealth but power and economic ideas basically making it more difficult to reform the system now what i want to ask you today is can you give me some examples of how this is happening making it more difficult. to reform as well in many ways financial as ation drives the whole policy agenda obviously we've seen it in sort of resistance to financial reform that the dodd frank stuff is run into a lot of resistance they have and want to derivatives included the too big to fail
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stuff all of that the whole financial sector across the board you see it in the corporate governance stuff the the emphasis on. buybacks the refusal to refuse corporate governance to make companies more accountable to shareholders. more accountable to stakeholders the full sort of people who contribute to value you see it of course in opposition to trade unions that's part of the deal one of the things that actually financial investors don't even realize is that trade unions are a form of corporate governance they keep c.e.o.'s from looting the company. they keep the c.e.o.'s honest from stopping them paying themselves too much in the way of c.e.o. pay so that's good for shareholders right and it's a funny part that that piece of how trade unions played a role in corporate governance got lost in the stories we tell because we see a lot of silly c.e.o. is not. going to be out there well you know if a very few a c.e.o. wants twenty percent then the union going to say i want to go to answer your voice
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but that will soon put a stop on. the other piece of it of course you see it in the international agenda very much where the sort of the trade agenda very much about shipping jobs offshore that's good for the bottom line that means finance lines up behind that but it's not good for american families and american workers not so so you can run across the full range of policies you have to realize just how deep this financial problem runs in terms of impacting washington and impacting economic policy and i would say it even runs into the federal reserve which i hope maybe we'll talk a little but yes we will get there and it scares me because i mean it's a social experiment that we trying for the first time now speaking of ideas last week university of oregon professor tim dewey he wrote a post that seemed to indicate that over the past thirty years the fed tends to tell you before wage growth accelerates beyond two percent i want to throw up this chart see that you can see it to where we go. now wage growth and federal funds rate now what do you make of this idea well i think i do is up to the right that's that's the facts and it's speaking back into this financial position narrative the
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federal reserve abandoned a commitment to full employment essentially in the late one nine hundred seventy s. and shifted to focusing on low inflation and underlying it was just a. justification came from the economics profession which basically said the federal reserve clause do much about employment right and therefore all it should do is focus on what it can do something about which is inflation and that's now that's dead wrong it turns out that not only can the federal reserve do something about it. employment but when you focus just on inflation in this way you end up squeezing wages and shifting the distribution of income from wages to profits so that's how the federal reserve and what's gone on over the last twenty five years has fed into this financial education. issue and this is what we have to hope for in this where we have to keep the eye on the ball not maybe trap us and janet yellen is going to be
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a different. policy operator we need to put pressure on her to make sure that she does not step on the brakes before wages start to increase and there's more to be said on this rate and actually it's kind of like you know work we don't want to head into deflation we definitely don't want to head on to into deflation when i when i read this little exchange on the web between i think. professor do we may have been responding to something that paul krugman wrote to us just today and well maybe it's a way around it paul paul krugman is apt at this time paul krugman is absolutely right on this issue the first point to start is that we still have a major debt overhang in the household sector the best way to reduce that debt overhang is to have some wage growth not talking not not just real wage growth but also nominal wage growth dollars taken home that's the way to reduce the burden of debt the other piece of this story as i've already referred to
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a little bit is about this problem of the distribution of income between wages and profits what we have seen over the last. is a very significant redistribution from wages from walk because to profits to capital we have and that's part of the what the reason why we are in stagnation now that we have the shortage of demand so we have a major tosk of redistributing income back from profits to wages and that's going to require a wage growth and actually i think right now it's going to require wage growth and it's going to require a limp. and it requires both and therefore the the fed must avoid stepping on the brakes because it can kill both if it steps on the brakes it will kill full employment and it can kill wage growth as well so keep excel orating but paul krugman he argued that the fed would be wrong to raise rates too soon in order to cut off wage growth but low rates i want to get straight are amplifying risk seeking behavior in the financial markets how do you fix this that i mean other
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than what you just said but how do you fix this specifically well i think this is this what this will fix itself in part as the economy starts to strengthen and as you fix that demand problem then there will become a time when it will be appropriate to to start to raise interest rates in the meantime as you redistribute back. from profits to wages that'll put a check on rate risk taking behavior and finally this is where it gets complicated this is where it's a hard thing to do on television there are other ways of organizing financial regulation and i myself have written now for about fifteen years on something called asset based reserve requirements what we have to do is get the federal reserve to change the way it governs the system instead of instead of just using interest rates it's got to make financial institutions hold liquidity against the assets i love this i think that's a fantastic idea that will let you thought at first because i thought that i figured out how to fix what you're betting on here that you're brilliant and
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beautiful are. let me explain how that would work i mean it's a fantastic thing because then you can use the interest rate to manage the overall level of macro economic activity but you can change the reserve requirement on asset classes according to your concerns with them you have a house price bubble over there you don't want to raise interest rates it's going to hurt manufacturers it's going to drive up the exchange rate etc why not raise the reserve requirement on new mortgage lending why not it's brilliant and immediately the cost of loans goes up if you have a concern about. stock market bubbles put a margin requirement on all equity holdings and all the equity that margin borrowing but put a marginal qualm of the natural holdings that reduces the return to stocks makes the most attractive ways to do this but we call it get it into the discussion because the mainstream economists who i think either consciously or unconsciously in the service of finance block us all you and i are going to do
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a talk we are you all are card fed policy we're going to do it. anywhere we have to take a quick break but you don't go anywhere either because dr kelly is sticking around and we'll have more with him when we return then in today's big deal edward harrison and i are talking about guess what wage growth certainly is a big deal now just today a nobel prize winning economist who may or may not be working for big media paul krugman wrote an op ed the new york times on this very subject we just talked about it mr harrison are going to break it down a little bit further as we head to break here i look at your some some of your closing numbers at the bell we stick around. that's our course.
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in the finish line of the marathon. we welcome there are nate and i believe mark two or b. two or three close on the our team at work. it's going to give you a different perspective give you one stock never i'll give you the information you make the decision don't you both bring you the work it's a revolution of the mind it's a revolution of ideas and consciousness. with the system extremely you produce would be described as angry i think i'm a strong. leader single. i've got a quote for you. it's pretty tough to. say wait substory. let's get this guy like you would smear that guy stead of working for the people
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most issues in the mainstream media were pretty cheap. we did rather well. we're back now with economist dr thomas palley who authored the book from financial crisis to stagnation and restoring shared prosperity a policy agenda for a leading keynesian economist now welcome back we're glad you're here i want to pick up where we left off now last week i we had. of principalities on the show and she discussed the idea of shrink inflation i want to play you some something she said take a listen. let me talk about something that i call shrink. it's something that
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happened in the one nine hundred seventy s. before the data reflected inflation and it's literally the size of things starts to get smaller like candy bars started to have you know cadbury's had they're taking two squares of chocolate off the chocolate bar but they're going to sell it to you at the same price and when you open a bag of potato chips there are far fewer in there there's more compressed air there are so many examples of this but what it tells you is there is margin pressure because the costs are rising enough the company needs to pass on the cost to you the consumer they will so what do you make of this i love the i'm delighted the chips in the bag because i eat them all of them but don't think i get bad but let's talk economics here. actually it does probably i'm pretty sure it shows up in the inflation numbers because the way the b.l.s. . collects the inflation data as it goes out there and adjusts for anything that's
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changed so if you were looking at a call for instance they will adjust with there's been some sort of quality improvement over the. a chocolate bar they will they have out there if there's been if there's been a shrinkage in size they should measure it as having correspondingly increased in price so i do believe it is called but that's a technical issue you may want to call up the b.l.s. and see whether they do do it do exist in journalism there's a just a minute when i really realized. now i've and i love the word translation yeah but i actually interpret it slightly differently from from but the knowledge that what we're actually seeing with. i call it margin expansion because the firms are giving charging more while supplying less so what's happened is we've actually had an increase in the profit margin and this is part of the point of the process of taking out of the pay packet and putting into profits so it's a slightly different perspective and the way for the reason forms can get away with it is because of lack of competition this is the basically increasing their profit
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margin by doing this is part of the strategy and it therefore comes back to what we've been talking all along about this whole major problem in the u.s. and global economy of income shifting from labor to capital this is just one small dimension of it you've got a little window of it through a strange little thing called pricing of chocolate box and price you know her or simply it's really more for inspiration right now here's the thing first and foremost has this happened before and why would companies care about hiding inflation from their consumers why is that in their interest well they're very savvy marketers they have marketing departments and they would run the test if we put up a put up the direct price how's that going to work out and if we can if we just shrink the thing and hold it hold the line on price how's that's going to work out which is better for the bottom line and that's savvy i think it's just that this is business at work and they're getting away with it and they're getting away with it which is the most business and they go tom what would you do differently if you had
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the opportunity to essentially just run monetary policy what would be your plan. who. well i would have to stay the course with low interest rates and not start to not put. raise interest rates prematurely that's that's going to going to do damage but i want to go back to talking what we will about what you will see it is about a change of monetary policy regime that's needed and this thing called asset based reserve requirements is what i would really recommend that the federal reserve move to and i don't know if they have the legal authority to do it right now but if they don't they should be asking for what we did learn from the last. twenty years of policy is that simply controlling interest rates and targeting inflation does not work you get massive builds up the financial instability balance sheets go crazy etc we're having a little bit of that now so you need other tools of policy and that's when we come back to needing things like asset based reserve requirements where we can again target precisely those parts of the economy that we think are overheated pose
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a danger by the way that another good side to it if you want to say encourage investment and so we have a major task going into the future to green the u.s. economy to deal with climate change right well what i look at this is a great is a great opportunity here what we can do is we can say if banks make loans for green investment we're going to give them a negative a negative asset base of the republican to give them a credit which they can offset again something else lower the cost of credit for those type of investments we've got in a certain renewal to do we can all of these socially desirable. issues we've got infrastructure to build we want the private sector involved put a negative requirement on it so this is this is a this is a way of managing finance that again we moved away from because we wanted to turn it all over to to wall street and let the magicians do it on them by themselves and it's been catastrophic for us you know while i mean obviously we know when this happened but what was the logic behind that very obviously other than the wall
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street titans serving their own interests what was the political logic behind doing such well i like to talk about a war of ideas and progressives lost the war of ideas in the nineteen seventies and ronald reagan came in and he was just a fantastic sales person and he sold clean after he wanted to do it is there he sold economic kool-aid to people i don't think he came up with it was smart people behind him who were feeding him economic policies that were in the interests of capital and he's. the american people a lot of people bought it and continue to buy it and it's against their economic self-interest trying to unwind it very slowly and unfortunately when i talk about these things i like to think by the. ideas of what once the set of ideas grabs hold of the public's imagination it's very very hard on wind you can give all the good arguments you want all the evidence you want but people stick with the idea until
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it fails so not. a bad idea in a sense once it's grabbed the imagination has to be lived through and then gets has to be disproved by events and then in a sense that's what the financial crisis about it showed a particular paradigm was rotten to the core and didn't work but even then it was to. people still hold out that it might be capable of reform it might be coming back i don't know if you would if you were doing the show back then but in two thousand and nine people were talking about green shoots remember all the. people have been hoping that things are going to come back and that's what's so important about this stagnation debate i've been hoping and waiting for the term stagnation to kick into the public discourse because now we can have we didn't bounce back. and this is the opening and the question is how do we explain that
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i promise you from wall street and from those working on behalf of finance they'll have an explanation that keeps things exactly the same we're going to we're. going to. have. dr thomas thank you so much for your time your time now for today. big deal time edward harrison and i are discussing the. japan occasion to prove to them that japan occasion of the u.s. economy more specifically how the r.v. nomics experiment might chart the fortunes of america's economic future now for refresher of a nomics is japanese president economic plan to pull his country out of decades of
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poor economic performance and inflation the plan calls for three arrows one fiscal stimulus two monetary easing three structural reform but those arrows seem to be ineffective or at very least not hitting their target now yesterday we spoke about japan's goal of a two percent inflation rate and how that would be impossible if there is no wage growth think of it this way japanese people like save and the japanese wages are stagnant if they maintain their old mentality of saving and if their wage wages are stagnant and people will be forced to consume less it's very simple that's when they're faced with raising prices they just can't consume more correct group who think now higher prices in other words higher prices with the same amount of money means less consumption very simple it isn't that hard it seems confusing but it's actually easy to get ahold of when she can break it down often almost wants to change japan's consumer culture spend now but don't say if it doesn't seem to be working out what are they going to do so and yesterday you said that abi nomics was
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failing it because this is typically the lack of wage growth now why and japan is it's so crucial as a test case for the u.s. that we look at this lack of wage growth and what's going on there why does it affect the u.s. so much because a lot of the issues are similar to what's happening in japan in terms of the deflation versus inflation in terms of you know high levels of debt within the private sector in the us it's actually concentrated in the household sector rather than in the corporate sector as it was in japan so that makes it even more onerous so the problem basic. is that once you go through the sickle coal business cycle periods where you think everything is doing well once you get to the business cycle trough that's where you have the next recession then suddenly boom the whole debt issue comes back into play the fact that you have a lack of wage growth is also there and then suddenly you know you hit a big pickup and that's when the deflation takes hold that's when the whole japan
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if occasion starts to take hold it didn't take hold in japan immediately it was over time it was as they went through these these these series of recessions now here why would inflation be a good thing for the u.s. i think a lot of people are wondering you know they hear inflation it seems like oh that's well and no why would that be a good thing for the u.s. war don't think it is a good thing inflation is not a good people say that it's a good thing that's because they think we got caught up in a repeat of the nineteenth seventy's that's the question you know like when all this is going on with you had the full employment that led to higher wages and increased wage growth well in terms of the seventy's that you had basically workers had more power were larger and you also were closer to full employment and therefore you could have a situation in which things were ratcheted up at the same time you had to price shots from the two energy crisis the oil shocks that also contributed to inflation
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at the same time and when you have that sort of a shock obviously either the economy is going to collapse or you have to pass through to wages in some capacity so that people can actually continue to spend so i don't think that we're going go back to the seventy's it's completely different story i think what's going to happen is that the lack of wage growth is going to catch up to us the next time that we have a cyclical downturn and then people will still have high levels of household debt and as a result of that you know they're going to cut back again and then we're going to be that much closer if we already already are. in deflation always optimistic and here as always christine by the way that number now where you can see all segments featured in today's show on your chair that you tube dot com slash boom bust our t. we also love hearing from you check out our facebook page facebook dot com slash boom bust our t. you can tweet us at aaron aid at edward n.h. from all of us here at boom bust thank you for watching us the next time the five.
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